Kevin Nealon: Huffing Onions

22:07Or do you just try to get through it? Do you know what I'm saying? The first thing that comes to your mind after doing this so long is that you know it will pass. It will pass. This too will pass. But the other thing is, you know it's not you because of your track record. And you know it's the audience. And you try to go with it. You just try to go with it and you try to make fun fun of whatever's going on out in the audience. You know, I mean, that's all you could do, right? And then Dana Carvey and I, we always have this saying that whenever we have a tough thing, we go off stage, we go, killed it, crushed it, crushed it right there, you know?

22:44So anybody who's involved, like if the producers in the back or other people, go, wow, great audience, great audience. You know, you just play it down.

22:52Rob Lowe:I know people get mad at the audience. Like not maybe during the act, but like, but it's a temptation. Like, wait, this joke killed every single show I've ever done. What's wrong with these people? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that happens. That way, right then, you know, the whole set is going to be a challenge, you know, because they're tired or they're not paying attention or they're not very bright. I think you know you say a lot of comics will get mad but I think the biggest notable one was Bill Burr in Philadelphia did you ever see that? oh and I love Bill Burr is there a great clip? oh dude tell me you gotta check this out he was doing some outdoor event in Philadelphia and the audience was booing him they did not like him and he turned on them so quickly and you don't want Bill Burr to turn on you no he was ragging philadelphia the flyers of every team they had their philadelphia cheesesteaks he was and then he'd look at the clock six minutes to go then he'd get back into it again and then more and more and more ragging philadelphia four minutes you know he had to do his time you got to check it out on youtube but i think that's really the thing that kind of put him on the map.

24:14Rob Lowe:Oh, that's... I mean, and I'm sort of an aficionado of his. I don't know how I've overlooked that. That would be... Do you have... Do you have set sort of heckler? I can't imagine anybody heckling you under any circumstances. You know, it's not... I don't think people heckle too much anymore, but I think it's more disruptive because they're drunk and they're talking and they want to talk to you and they'll know anybody else is in the room with them. right? So it's really the drunk. For me, Rob, lately, because I'm getting older, my audience is getting older, they've had to stop the show like five times in the last two years because somebody collapses and they fall off their chair onto the floor.

24:57And then they have to turn the lights on and the whole show comes to a stop. And it really throws off my timing, right? This happened like two weeks ago. And I'm getting used to it now. So they turn the lights, on. Let's say I finish in the middle of a joke about a cookie. Talking about cookies. So they turn the lights on and I say, somebody call 911 because I'm the first responder because I got the mic, right? But nobody has a phone because they put them in those little canvas bags with a lock on them for the good comics. Right? And so I'm the only one with the phone. So I got to call 911. And I've never called 911 before.

25:39I barely remember the number. And I remember, oh yeah, it's my PIN number. That's right. So I called 911. You ever called 911? No. No, I haven't either. But immediately, the guy comes up and goes, what's the emergency? It's like, no small talk. It's like, how are you doing, man? How's the set going? And then I have to explain to him, I'm a stand-up right now. I'm doing my set. And some guy fell over in the back. And he says, is there a doctor in that room? I said, I don't know. I don't do crowd work. It's hacky. I don't like crowd work. and he goes, is the guy breathing? And I've got the mic, so I don't want to be too disrespectful to the guy, you know, that could be dead.

26:18And so I don't want to like start going back for the audience, but the guy goes, can you, is he breathing? I said, I don't know. He said, can you get close to him? I said, I don't know how long the cord is on the mic. I don't know if it'll reach all the way back there. So, so anyway, the paramedics came and he did die, but still I got some good laughs out of it, you know.

26:39Rob Lowe:as long as it's, listen, that's 10 years of this kind of stuff. Now we know why the special's so good. Actually, he didn't die. He was okay. They took him, they took him away, but I didn't trust. You hoped he died because he fucked your setup. Oh, right. So then they turn the lights back off again. I pick up right where I left off without even mentioning it. So the cookies, yeah, the cookies have a nice kind of a bite to them. You know, they're warm and they're like no mention at all. But that bonds the audience. I bet you they were great after that. Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of that stuff in my special.

27:11I talk a lot about, you know, the way I see things. There's a lot of comics, too. And it's become a little bit darker as I've gotten older.

27:19Rob Lowe:It's funny. You're one of the last people I would think is you're kind of a son. Wouldn't you say you're a son? Or I'm misreading you. You're pretty sunny and easygoing. Yeah, I am easygoing. I don't let things bother me. I think I'm dead inside, Rob. I think I've become dead inside. I don't really react when I should. It takes me a while, right? Oh, yes, I have that. In all seriousness, one of the things of years of therapy that I've been working on is learning to feel my feelings in real time. Oh, that's great. That's great. Yeah, that's something that I... And what was the... What did you take away from that?

28:05It's just that you kind of block things out?

28:08Rob Lowe:that, and they fall in a certain category, right? It's like, like when I'm at work, like when things are going on, I feel everything in real time can, I don't have any compunction about people pleasing or whatever, or I'm just, I'm in real time. Like my wife, Cheryl, she feels everything in real time, everything, and reacts to it in real time. I can have stuff happen and literally I'll go, So, but that was a, that was a good, yeah, that was a good thing, right? Yeah, that was a, that was a good thing. Or, or conversely, I think that's bad. Is that bad? Right? Like, and I don't, I, like everything else, it comes from childhood shit for sure.

28:52Rob Lowe:But, but being able to, to like synthesize, you know what it is. It's being able to synthesize reality. Right. Honestly and correctly in real time. And, and it turns out not everybody can do it. Yeah, for me, it's more the good news that I don't believe. I could win the lottery for a billion dollars. I'd say, oh, that's great. That's great. Because for some reason, I think it's not real. Are they going to be taking it away from me? And that's never happened to me as a child. I had a great upbringing. But now it's kind of like, for some reason, my wife kind of points out that I don't react to stuff that's good.

29:33She's very diffusive. she's really bubbly and she gets excited about anything you know we have coffee going yeah we had coffee today you know and we have just like yeah yeah we're going to you know looking at homes you know to buy a house and we go in there and she's like oh get the bathroom in here with the you know with the day toilet and i go okay okay i think part of this i don't you know i'm holding i'm like a card player i don't give away my hand like i really like it when it comes time to negotiate a price you know i like that okay you know well it does it because one of the things

30:03Rob Lowe:as you're saying this, I'm realizing for me, a lot of it is around deals. Like you want a house, maybe it's a movie or whatever, you're negotiating or some kind of thing and you're negotiating, negotiating, negotiating and then the deal closes and I inevitably, inevitably go, oh, like there's, there's a feeling of I'm bummed out. Yeah, yeah. Like, wait a minute, the point of making a deal is you want to make a deal. What, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, well, I'm glad you're getting help with therapy about that. Yeah, thank you. So we know that when you're happy now and when you're sad, instead of holding your head.

30:43Rob Lowe:When you're happy, when you're happy, when you know it. Are you an easy crier?

30:49Rob Lowe:Easy, gosh, I don't. I think I'm about right there. I think I'm, as they would say, right-sized. Right, yeah. When it comes to my, you put on Brian's song. I'm going to cry. There's an old reference. We are just the reference kings. Anybody, if you're not 60 or above, dude, we're doing the AARP podcast is what we're doing. But what about on screen? Can you cry easily?

31:21Rob Lowe:Less than, not as much as I could when I was a younger actor. But I can still do it. I just have to work harder. But that's always been about, for me anyway as an actor, is I'm as sort of effective in that way as the story is. Like if the story warrants it, that's easier for me to access. But if some writer somewhere writes, he's crying, that can be really difficult. And by the way, means nothing at the end of the day. Let me ask you this. I like how many people say that. Let me ask you this. Okay, you have my permission. Do you, is there something now that they give actors like a drop where it comes out?

32:01because I'll see some close-ups and the tear comes out exactly the same moment that the bad news is coming. It's like, you'd never be able to do that. Is it like, is it like post that they do that in or?

32:13Rob Lowe:It's a couple things. First of all, the number one thing is, of course, if you really look at that, it's, well, there are times, I swear to God there are actors who can hold their tears. like they know, like their eyes fill with tears and they know how to let them spill out at the right moment. I mean, they do that. But you know, my brother Chad Lowe, who I know you know. Love Chad. One of the great men of all time, did a movie with Elizabeth Taylor. Wow. In the 80s. It was a big TV movie. 1880s? it was right in the middle of manifest destiny and we were coming across the plane uh and she i think like it was like all those types of characters like roddy mcdowell was in it robert wagner was in it and chad was the kid and the scene i came to visit him one day and i happened to see, talking about crying, Elizabeth Taylor's character being told that her husband and family had died in a plane crash.

33:27Rob Lowe:That's the scene.

33:31I'm starting to tear up just hearing about that.

33:33Rob Lowe:It is, like I said, that's sad. I don't know that that happened to her character. That's sad in this movie. Yeah. And she's staged the business of the scene, and what her character is doing, is she's making a salad. That's what she's decided. Yeah. Not just having a cup of coffee at a table. She's not reading a newspaper. She's not putting something in the oven. She's making a salad. Right. And I think R.J. Robert Wagner comes in and says, you know, there were no survivors.

34:09Rob Lowe:and Elizabeth grabs a raw onion that she's hidden in a napkin and puts it right in her face and just huffs it. No way. With her back to the camera. Wow. And then just turns around with the tears. No kidding. And I was like, wow, that is a fucking pro move. but then it's also that move of like you're Elizabeth Taylor you got two Academy Awards you're doing a movie of the week on television she's using an onion they should have gave her instead of an Academy Award a gold onion on a case we should start every year at Oscars we can do this on our various podcasts the golden onion for either best or worst crying scene Oh, I like that.

35:04You know, I had an acting coach once that, well, actually he wasn't my coach, but he was an acting teacher. And he said the best way you can have tears is to pull a nose hair out of your nose.

35:17Rob Lowe:Wait, how is Elizabeth Taylor going to pull a nose? I get how she huffed an onion. How is she going to pull a nose hair out? She'd have to pull an eyelash out, but then those would be, you know, fake eyelashes. So, yeah. You know, they hit you with a menthol gun too, right? You've seen those. Oh, no, I haven't seen that. Yeah, it's a menthol dispenser. And it's a blower, menthol blower. And they pocket it up and they go, and they blow it in your eyes. And then your eyes, but you have to wait because it takes about 40 seconds for you to tear up. And you're standing there with your eyes just huge.

35:54Rob Lowe:And then you're like, okay, I'm ready. Wow, that's really disappointing to know there's that many tricks. Because I can't see, you know, It usually takes about five or six takes to get a scene right, on average probably. So how many times can you cry at that moment on every take? And I wrote about this in my first book when I did The Outsiders. I had a very young actor. I just turned 18, and I had to cry, my big scene. And I didn't know, it was still so inexperienced, I didn't realize how many times I would have to be doing it. and so i fucking was crying and cry like really crying doing my thing but i didn't realize that they were shooting like master shots like it was like huge shots of the park and us running and tackling and having the conversation we could have been we were fucking ants and then you come in for the close-up and now i've been shooting this scene for four hours and literally like my I don't have the liquid in my body anymore.

36:58Yeah, yeah.

36:59Rob Lowe:So, yeah, you've touched on a very, what was a very sensitive subject for me early in my career. Yeah, I get that, man. I get that, yeah. The master shots don't mean anything. Save it, save it for the close. Yeah.

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40:47do you ever do you ever know anybody who can tommy howell see thomas howells in that movie and i know

40:52Rob Lowe:other people can do this who literally can look at you like like i'm looking at you like hey how you doing turn around and have tears streaming down their face no no i don't know anybody like that. It's insane. I don't know how they do it. They're all emotionally unbalanced, obviously. I wonder if something really happens sad to them if they do it, or if it's just all performative. Well, I get hearing that your family died in a plane crash. That could be pretty immediate. But finding out that somebody broke into your house and took your favorite ring. With the writers and the writers with the crying.

41:34Yeah, what's up with that?

41:35Rob Lowe:I want to say, guys and gals,

41:41Rob Lowe:people don't have to cry in every scene because you think it's sad. Right. Think of how many times people are actually crying. I always like to look at really gnarly real life stuff and then remember it for later. and there's this horrible photos of people standing in lower Manhattan watching the towers come down and none of them are crying. None of them. Yeah. But they do, interestingly, all have their mouths hanging open, which you think would be, you think that would be the hacky move if you were an actor. Yeah. And it turns out when you're in a total absolute state of shock and horror, your mouth hangs open like a cartoon character.

42:29Right, right. I was, when I was on Weeds on Showtime with Mary Louise Parker. Love her, by the way. She's an amazing actor. Amazing. There was times where she was given bad news. Instead of crying, she would smile. You know, it would, and I thought that goes against everything I know, but it works because she's not processing it she's blocking it or that's just a reaction. So this is actually, this podcast is really a lesson in acting. It's an acting class.

43:05Rob Lowe:We're doing an acting class. Mary Louise Parker was on West Wing with me. That's right. And she is an absolutely spectacular, spectacular actor and so unique. I mean, there's nobody like her. There's literally no one like her. I loved Weeds. That was an acting class for me because I was just looking at all these great actors. You know, I'm a stand-up comic. So I learned a lot from that. What was the first thing that you can remember that you learned? Although it's hard to top that. Like you don't, just because somebody wrote it doesn't mean you have to react it. Because I can promise you when they wrote that scene, the writers weren't writing, She Smiles.

43:48Right, right. No, they don't. I learned a lot from that. The first thing I learned was to know the actors you're working with their names, their correct names. Correct names. I was calling Mary Louise Parker. I was calling her Mary. I didn't know that. I thought, oh, why would she use her middle name, Louise? And then the director goes, her name is Mary Louise. I said, oh, okay. Isn't that a little right?

44:18Rob Lowe:Yeah, but you don't know. It's like when you work with Michael J. Fox, you don't call him Michael J. Right. Unless he's rapping. Yeah. And then you do. But like, who knows? Yeah. It's back to the name thing. This is a reoccurring theme with like the names. How do you know? Yeah. You know, like you, I'm sure you watch actors and you see a lot of the tricks they're doing. I don't know if they're tricks, but sometimes it's the cadence of the delivery. And you say, okay, he stopped there. And then you continue in that thought. And then you start seeing that more and more. and you think, well, maybe that's a trend.

44:50That's a trend with acting now, you know.

44:53Rob Lowe:Oh, there's definitely an acting trend going on right now. Is there? Oh, yeah, young actors. And it's, how do I put this?

45:05Rob Lowe:Given if it's a binary choice, it's a good thing, but I don't love it. And I think it's a reaction to the Disneyfication of acting where all these kids have come up through all the tentacles of the CW and Disney and all of those types of young people shows, like what's the one, like Hannah Montana's of the world, all that stuff, where that behavior on screen is not recognizable as anything any human beings have ever done before. Like Cody fucking in charge or whatever. You watch those shows and I don't know what they're doing, But there's no resemblance to anything truthful. And what it is clearly is young kids who are new and don't know, God bless them, and they're being directed by hacks.

45:59Rob Lowe:Yeah. And so there's that. So the reaction to that for the good young actors is to go the other way, where they play almost nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's so flat. and their biggest fear, which is, if you're going to have a big fear, it's the one to have, is getting caught doing something false. Right. But then what you have are no, very few extraordinary moments because it has to be a blend. Yeah. It might also be a generational thing. That's the way they react to things. That's the way they speak. That cadence. Maybe it's not a trend. And it's just their generation. When you were doing SNL, did Walken, Chris Walken ever host while you were there?

46:49Rob Lowe:Yeah. So, I mean, he's the alt. Yeah, you're right. Well, you're right. Yeah, you're right. That's totally true. Yeah, that's, but that's, that's different than anything, any, anybody's ever done. You know what he does, right? You know, the number one thing he does is whenever he gets a script, he removes all punctuation. But, you know, that's what they do with texts. You know, when people text now, there's no punctuation or anything like that. So, you know, but you still understand what they're saying, you know? So maybe one day there won't be any more punctuation. Oh, for sure there won't be.

47:25Rob Lowe:There won't be any language. It'll be, I mean, don't get me. Yeah, emojis. It'll be emoji. I mean, when you think about it, like, really, other than like the esoteric fun of it all and the art of it all, and I'm not giving that short shrift. The whole point of communicating is how can you say something specifically with the shortest amount and with the most amount of clarity? And I mean, look at the hieroglyphs. It was a thing. It was like, oh, that meant that they came from the pyramid down to the Nile and had like, you know, characters in Asian languages. They mean multiple. I'm so sad the hieroglyphics went away.

48:07And I knew they would as soon as cursive came in.

48:10Rob Lowe:Cursive. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't do it. I was fucked at cursive. I was good where you could, remember those pages where you could outline, how old are we right now? I know. Let's talk about cursive writing. I mean, you know what it's good for, cursive? Teaching you how to write an autograph. Yeah, that's true. Which is useful for so many people. yeah but most autographs you can't even read anymore it's just a squiggle especially when you're doing it on that little pad at the store you know the cashier just they use your finger and you do it it looks nothing like your name um nothing and i and i think it says something for people who sign their name in a way that's legible versus people who don't care and i'm not sure what it means i go both ways like which is cooler well you know when you can actually decipher somebody's name from those little pads i think it means they're they feel like they're not noticed in life i'm not a therapist rob you know that we've had several sessions and i may have overcharged you but i think they really want people to know this is me.

49:26I want you to know this is me. I'm not a squiggly line. Right?

49:33Rob Lowe:Does that make sense? You're an artist. You do caricatures. Yeah. But they're not like you're at Magic Mountain. No, they're not those kind of caricatures. They're a little more intricate than that. When I was growing up, my parents had their caricatures done by some a Parisian artist because we lived in Germany for a while. And I had those on my wall growing up at the end of my bed. So every night I got into bed, I would look at those. And the guy was really good. And I would study subconsciously, I was studying how to draw caricatures. And then as I got older, I kept doing fast caricatures of people.

50:14Maybe it was at the table read at SNL, I'd sketch Farley, who was sitting across on the margin on my script. and then i you know instagram came along i started seeing some really really fantastic caricatures from these illustrators and i thought wow that's really good you know so i kind of studied those and you know was influenced by those and got more into it and started sketching them and getting uh digitally and paint and then i you know had but before i knew it i had like a hundred of them or so 50 of them and i put a book together called i exaggerate my brushes with fame and it's a it's a compilation of a lot of my caricatures and on the opposite page is a little anecdote about that person or my experience with them whether it was in a carby or you know um norm mcdonald or chris farley and um and it's been doing well and also i have an art store on because people say where can i get your art where can i get your art and it's an art store i have on online It's called kevinneelandr.com, and a portion of the proceeds go to L.A.

51:18Children's Hospital.

51:19Rob Lowe:That's amazing. So I'm glad to see people are finding it. They're going to now. I love that. Are you like a Hirschfeld fan? Have you been done by Hirschfeld, which was a big thing? No, but I know some people that have been, but not lately because she died, of course. But that was really the first, some of the first caricatures I saw. And it was very kind of a one-line thing. Yes. You know, very minimalist. So that was interesting. But that's not really my influence. You know, I have these other people. Are they painted? What are you using to do it? Well, it's multimedia, they call it. Okay. And it's a sketch.

52:05It could be just a sketch or it could be a sketch with digital. and then paint on top. So that's mostly what I do. I have sketched along with this pencil or pen and ink, but lately I've just been doing the multimedia.

52:24Rob Lowe:You're a renaissance man. I'm a renaissance man. And also, you know, you have actually been part of this other project I've done, Hiking with Kevin. The best. Do you remember that? Of course I do. I love hiking with Kevin. I was just at the trail where we hiked. And I remember asking you a question as you got to the parking lot. There was this Quonset hut behind you. I thought, I'm going to get Ralph on this one. I said, you know what? They call this building behind you. And you looked at it and you said, that's a Quonset hut. I said, oh my God, how do you know that? Because I lived in one. How did you know that?

53:01Rob Lowe:Because I lived in one. You did? I had the first house I ever bought. My parents and I was still living at home. And I bought us a place and they had the house. And in the back was a Quonset hut that I retrofitted into a Miami Vice, young, mid-20s something dream. Quonset hut. Yeah. Quonset hut. Is that a stump, a star? part of your thing or was that just something you did for me no i i don't have a stump the star but that could be a good uh stump the star is good yeah i think so stump stump the star is good and so what was the other thing that we came up with um about crying the oh um yeah um tears yeah um yeah our award for upset the star upset the star for the uh the the the worst crying scene of the year?

54:01Yeah. Yeah, they never give that away. They have the best kissing, don't they? Or the best... Yeah, the MTV, MTV.

54:07Rob Lowe:Well, now that's no longer. What are they going to do? Right, right. They used to have best kiss on MTV Movie Awards. Now there's no MTV at all. Now they have it on the Jumbotron at basketball games. Oh. And you better be kissing the right person. I know. Have you ever seen Dustin Hoffman at the Laker games where he is, it's a bit now, where they always cut to him when he's there? I don't know. I know I've seen him, the cocktail, but what does he do? He does a bit with his wife. They've been married for like a hundred years. They're the sweetest things and they do, he just always has a bit. Sometimes it's like, who is this person next to me?

54:41Rob Lowe:I don't want to kiss them or, but they have a whole and it's become like a thing. It's, it's super sweet. Yeah, yeah. But that would require you watching sports and we've decided that. Well, I do like sports. I do like watching if, especially if I know somebody on the team. You know, You got a lot of famous athlete friends? I used to have some. I used to have some because I would golf in the American Century golf tournament up in Lake Tahoe every year. Like 14 years. By the way, that's, you know, as those tournaments go, bananas tournament. Yeah, a lot of athletes. I mean, Michael Jordan. Oh, it's fucking crazy.

55:21Stephen Curry. It's crazy.

55:23Rob Lowe:It's the most fun. See that? I play in the other. Did you play in it? No, but I play in the other pendulum, which is the one, it's called the Memorial. And it is the most serious, buttoned up, because it's Jack Nicklaus' tournament. And it is gnarly. I mean, you feel like you're playing in the Masters. It's so serious. Wow. But I want to come play in the one in Tahoe, because those guys are just throwing footballs at each other and giving each other shit. I mean, I played in that, I think, for 14 years, and I finally got edged out because, you know, they had like Stephen Curry. I think Stephen Curry took over my spot.

56:05How can you argue that?

56:07Rob Lowe:He's also one of the best golfers on the planet. Yeah, he's really good. You know, he legitimately is, I think, going to go on the, they don't call it the seniors tour anymore, the champions tour when he's done playing basketball. My final question, which is the most important question I can ask a man that I admire, What's your handicap? Here's how horrible I am. In fact, they would pair me with Charles Barkley. Oh, no. We were the two worst golfers. No. We'd always finish last. I mean, one year he hit a goose in the air, knocked him out of the sky. Yeah. Been there. Yeah. The goose has been there too.

56:50But I don't, I never had a, I never tried to get one. And so I just estimate it now to be 21. What? Yeah. That's how bad I am. Okay. But you know what? Sometimes people think I'm good because I'll have a couple of good hits once in a while. And I was getting better after playing that many years on that tour. And I was really getting better. But then I stopped playing and I don't play that much anymore. But yeah, I don't.

57:22Rob Lowe:So when you're that bad and you're a celebrity, you have to kind of sing for your supper out there then, right? You have to kind of, because, by the way, Bill Murray sings for his supper, but he's also great. Yeah, yeah. He's a sloppy great golfer. Right. So my signature move for those tournaments on camera was the walkaway putt. I would putt it. It could be 30 yards away with all kinds of undulations. And I would putt it and I'd walk away. I'd be gone. And then I hear the audience go, they'd be up on their feet. And I knew it went in. That would happen. How do you know that it's going to go in though?

58:05Rob Lowe:Or do you just do it at every putt and hope that it does? It's all confidence. I walk away with false confidence. So does this mean that you're walking away from eight of those around and one of them goes in and that's the one they put on TV? Well, no, it's random. It's hit and miss. Literally, it's hit and miss. But when it goes in, it's memorable. And it happens maybe one out of 12 times. But it's worth it. Even if it doesn't go in, if it gets close, the audience goes crazy. So that was my signature move. That's why it kept me in there for 14 years. That would do it. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Nealon, you're the best.

58:48Rob Lowe:We've covered everything that there is to be covered. But mostly, loosen the crotch. Ten years you've been working on this. You've set the bar high. Well, listen, you've got a New York Times glowing, glowing, glowing. And they don't just hand those out. I'm sorry. They just do not. It costs a lot of money. Yes. Mark Gurvitz had to pay a lot of money. Our manager. Yeah. to the New York Times. He goes, I talked to our, we have the same manager. Talked to him on the way. I said, I'm talking to you. He's a funny kid. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did do his job. He did do his job as a manager. I was wondering, do they do anything?

59:32Rob Lowe:And he did. He did. I'm just giving you some feed, you know, real life feedback. He's working for you. He goes, he got a good review. New York Times. Really good. Hang on. Pull over. I'm going to send it to you. Check your phone. You should look at it before you talk to him. It's really good. I was like, okay. That's right. He's fucking working for you, dude. Yeah, he's totally working for us. And he's a good guy. Let's do Hike again. We need, I want to do like Hollywood sign. I want to do, I want to walk around the lake where they filmed the Andy Griffith show. Yeah, I know that trail well. I do that a lot.

1:00:08You do that one?

1:00:08Rob Lowe:Yeah, that's Franklin Canyon. Franklin Canyon. Yeah. I went up to Palisades the other day where the fires were, and some of the trails are still closed, but there was one that was open. And the topography has changed so much on that. I mean, it's like a river, a rocky river that goes through it now. And I had to cross that river like 12 times to get up to where I wanted to go. So, yeah, you won't recognize it. How about you come up to Montecito and we walk up to the hot springs? and we get in the hot springs. We do the thing semi-nude. Okay, so just take the pants off? Just the shorts? Yeah, we could do that.

1:00:52Rob Lowe:Yeah, exactly. Just the pants. Okay. Go commando. It's some pretty cool stuff. I'm just saying. Come up here. We'll do hot springs. All right. I love it, man. I love it. All right, brother. Great talking to you. Love you, man. Yeah, you too, Rob. Thanks, buddy. See you soon, I hope.

1:01:16Rob Lowe:Well, there you have it. One of the funniest people, and in all seriousness, if you've not seen Kevin Nealon on Conan O 'Brien talking about skiing, it's one of the great things. That's your homework for today or tonight or whatever time you're listening to this. And in the meantime, though, I'll see you next time right here on Literally.

1:02:08Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on Literally.

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