Michael J. Fox: Exterior Night Jungle Rain (Re-Release)

24:01And there was none of that stuff with the kind of role of characters I did. It was just like just showing up to work and just with the lunch pail and being like number 12 on the call sheet and having no sweat, no onus, a burden on you to come through and do something spectacular. You just had to be in the moment and play the guy. It was really fun.

24:23Rob Lowe:Well, that's what I'm wondering because, like, you know, you're a huge star, but you also, like, hit it out of the park when you just – it's kind of like being Mariano Rivera, right? I feel like. You come out of the bullpen, you know, somebody else has basically won the game for you. Yeah. And you get to come in and just crush it and then go back and that's it. And is it the lack of pressure? Is that what makes it so freeing? I make them play into Sandman when I go. I don't know. I love that you know that. I love it. I love that. That's her cranking out. It's like my friend Cam Neely. Do you know Cam Neely?

25:01Of course I do. Yeah. Yeah. Hockey Cam. Hockey Cam. Yeah. When he would come on the ice, I'd play Bad to the Bone. Oh. It was always so great.

25:11Rob Lowe:What would you, what would, it's fine. Okay, now you're playing a game that the low boys like to play. This is the game of what is our walk-off, walk-on music for life. Oh, that's good. You wake up in the morning, you're walking in to brush your teeth, to look at yourself in the mirror, you're getting ready to do your TM. What's playing? You know, the first thing that came to my head when you said that, and I have no idea why, is running away with the devil. You know, that great crescendo thing, not crescendo, it's the opposite, that glissendo.

25:47Rob Lowe:Yeah.

25:52Exactly. Exactly. I'm going to actually hear you now doing it. When I'm running with the devil, Michael J.

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30:33Rob Lowe:Okay, I need you to give me a little more context to one of my favorite little nuggets in the book. Paul Simon. Yeah. I love him. He's great. Very jealous, very jealous of you that you apparently were playing me and Julio down by the schoolyard with him. How that happens, I don't know. But only in Michael Fox world does that happen. And you had a fantastic interaction with him. It's one of my favorites. I'm so happy that the original context in the book is that I'm at a concert with Tracy. And then this vampire weekend is playing that song. I don't want to live like this, but I don't want to die.

31:16So I kind of broke that up as a dialectical confrontation. So as I was thinking about that, I was thinking, well, am I going to call the guy up and say, what did you mean by this? Because you never get an answer from an artist about what they'd meant. They didn't want you to figure it out. And I used an example the time that I was doing this thing with Paul Simon, and I said, and I was struggling with the lyric, and I said, it's so cryptic. And he looked at me and said, yes, Michael. guess they are cryptic you know this is like I love that I'm an asshole I am

31:50Rob Lowe:it's so great it's let's just break down me and Julio down by the schoolyard and find out what's cryptic Mama Pajama rolled out of bed and went to the police station when Papa found out he began to shout and started the investigation it's against the law it's against the law who's mama saw who's against the law right i can't see i can't it can't track it you can't track it yeah i can't look at it i don't know what's going on paul what is against the law what did mama saw yeah my favorite is the radical priests come to get me released and we saw on the cover of newsweek yeah by the way could we be any more white and old is it possible we're old white guys we're all white guys this is terrible this is terrible I mean we should be I don't know we should be dissecting I don't know Billie Eilish something instead look at us look at us I did a thing the other day with with Lil Nas X no way yeah he did I was in a I was in a a trailer for it's so complicated the business now I can't I can't begin to track it anymore I did a trailer for the premiere of his video.

33:10I wasn't in the video. I was in the trailer. You're in the trailer

33:12Rob Lowe:for the premiere of the video you're not in. I love this. Yeah. Because I often think of you two in the same breath, so that all makes perfect sense. Yeah. You're the same clothing store. Yeah, he was really great. He was really sweet. And then they asked me to do this thing where I said, hey, it was Marty McFly as Clint Eastwood in part three. And I was also known as a Pro-Pack to the Future. Whoa. and I had the Clint Eastwood hat on, and I say, whatever you do, don't go to 2020. That was my line. I've done whole movies that got as much attention as the one line I did in the Lil Nas X video. Video, trailer.

33:57I mean, it's crazy.

33:59Rob Lowe:I mean, you know, dude, we're all, you know what? We're old timers. I remember being in the business and people be like, you see you sitting in the corner? Jimmy Stewart. Now, I'm not saying we have that kind of iconography, but we've been around that long now. It's like crazy. It's funny you just say that I did a cameo on a movie, a Stephen Bristol movie for Spike Lee produced. And it was weird. On the set, people were treating it. I could just kind of see people behaving toward me in a certain way that I just went, they think I'm Jimmy Stewart. I'm like, you know, I'm like this I think Margaret Hamilton came to do a cameo.

34:40Rob Lowe:Well, if you just do the math, think about it. Like, the people on the set were, some of them weren't born when Marty McFly was crushing. No, a lot of them. A lot of my friends were born when Marty McFly was crushing. It's bizarre. We're really old. I mean, and by the way, just don't. I mean, the outsiders. I think that Outsiders, I was, I mean, that's, I mean, came out in 80. 40 years ago. 40. I'm exaggerating a little bit. No, you're not. It's about right. You're not. You're not. I wish you were exaggerating. It was 81, 82. Okay. Power of Love's playing on the radio, and you changed the channel, and St.

35:26Rob Lowe:Elmo's Fire's playing on the other channel. Which song do you listen to all the way to the end? I tried to find Night Ranger's secret of my success. Oh, dude, that might be the greatest ever. I'd forgotten about that. The secret of my success is working 24 hours a day. Oh, my God. I'm so getting that right now. It's so good. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. I wonder if you can even find that. I wonder if you can have it on iTunes. The secret of my success is working 24 hours a day. I was hoping I would get a little more color surrounding the De Palma movie. Why can't I think of the title of it right now?

36:14Rob Lowe:Casualties of War. Casualties of War. Well, you know, I was in the jungle with Sean for six months. Well, that's what I'm saying. I know where the stories are buried. Sean I gave Sean at the end of the movie I gave him a gift a pair of Muay Thai boxing shorts and some gloves to take aggression on somebody but I said I spent a note I said I can't say it was a pleasure but it's certainly a privilege and he liked that he would like that that'd be like the ultimate that's the ultimate compliment yeah it's true I mean he it was an interesting movie. I'm trying to think, have you done any jungle film?

36:58Rob Lowe:I have not done a jungle film. By the way, that might be my favorite. Have you done any jungle films? It's like, it's only an old-time movie star. You don't need any desert pictures? Jungle pictures. Any jungle pictures? The thing I think about is, Bob Zemeckis has a thing as well, it's a slug line from the top of the script that says exterior night jungle rain. If I ever see exterior night jungle rain, I'm off the fucking movie. I'm not doing it. That's amazing. Xeria Night, Jungle Rain. And you had that. That's basically the entire movie. It was a whole movie. I did a whole movie of Xeria Night, Jungle Rain.

37:31Like an idiot with Sean Penn.

37:34Rob Lowe:I think, I feel like I was on a plane flight with Tracy. And she was coming to visit you. I feel like. Yeah, it might have been. She came over to visit. Yeah, I was like, how's Mike doing over there? And she's like, mmm. Xeria Night, Jungle Rain. Exactly. I worked with Ricky Gervais. He wrote and directed this movie that I did. And he had actually adapted the script. And the very first thing he did was took out all the night shoots. It's the very first thing he did. He's like, this script needs work. The character, third act needs to be typed. Night shoots out. I kind of like that. I love it because it imposes something on the movie that it becomes a choice.

38:18It becomes an artistic choice. but it's actually just a slovenly habit of someone who doesn't want to stay out late.

38:26Rob Lowe:We stayed out late enough. We did that. Yeah. People say, are you tired? I say, I'm tired since Teen Wolf.

38:39They never got any better after that. And I went so fast, but it feels like it took forever.

38:45Rob Lowe:I remember people always talk to me about the difference between movies and television. And by the way, now that conversation is so different that I don't even know how to answer it because movies aren't what they used to be and TV isn't what it used to be and what is streaming television. It's all so fucking weird and fucked up. I can't. But back in the days when TV was TV and movies were movies, I remember so vividly being in. Is it possible a Ferrari, Michael? Yeah, it's entirely possible, unfortunately. Okay. so i remember being i remember it vividly being in a ferrari with you on santa monica boulevard no we were not cruising let me just say no back seat no back seat so yeah and i remember in a in st elmo's fire was out and back to the future was out and this group of people like well saw And they went so nuts.

39:44Rob Lowe:And, and I realized that the television, because family, between family ties, and it really is, in television, they, you're friends, like you're in their lives. You are part of the fabric of your, your family member. and in in in movies there's a distance to it that that that i that i i i found that the reactions were were totally different but the very first time i i sort of saw that was was was with you and the commotion you were causing yeah but yeah there was a the thing about that was richard chickle talking about that the old critic uh critic about the fact that like television you are you're part of the family you're literally people are sitting on the toilet looking through the open door at the tv in the bedroom and watching and they're that familiar with you and so there is that kind of familiarity and they kind of feeling like they don't worry about bursting a bubble getting inside some guard you're totally accessible to them they have every right to approach you there so that's so cool with movies you go into a cathedral with a bunch of strangers and you look at a gigantic image of, of, of like James Dean.

41:01And it's just, it's, it's, it transcends that kind of familiarity. It becomes more iconic. And, and, and so those people mean it's bigger. It's like to meet a film star, they'd be like, Oh, this is Pacino. But to me, Hey, it's Ted from Cheers. you know and then they slap Ted on the back and tell him a joke you know

41:31Rob Lowe:Who was your big idol? I know you're a big Cagney guy right? Yeah I liked Cagney a lot but my big idol I don't want to have to be actors that I really liked I loved I loved guys like Jack Borden these guys character guys So you really, truly do. I mean, dude, Michael J. Pollard. I mean, that kind of tells you right there. I mean, and he's a great character actor. He's not, he's not Jack Warden. I mean, I don't think he's that famous, right? I know a guy performance models just popped in my head. In terms of television, I thought of genius. And apparently, I don't know about him as a guy or whatever else work he did, but this particular role, Carol O 'Connor in All in the Family was unbelievable, just impeccable.

42:20And Bea Arthur, for that matter. Just timing, like timing, you could cut a piece of garlic back then. Its timing was so sharp.

42:30Rob Lowe:I remember being a kid in Ohio and watching All in the Family every single Saturday night. That's also hilarious is that there was a time when that's where you put your hits on on television. It was Saturday night, I think, or Friday, whatever it was. But it's a night that we don't put television on anymore. But I remember seeing her win must have been an Emmy and being so shocked that she didn't talk like this in real life. That's good. I was like, right? It was not a bad B. Arthur just out of the fly, right? No, it was Gene Stapleton. B. Arthur was Maude. Oh, B. Arthur. Oh, sorry. I was mixing her up.

43:05Yeah. Gene Stapleton, that was awesome. That was a great Gene Stapleton. It was a shitty Maude. Shitty B. Arthur. Yeah, B.

43:10Rob Lowe:Arthur really sucked. Maude was Gene. Oh, no, she had her timing. She did the withering look. Yeah. She did the slow burn. Well, this is funny because it's an interesting thing. like uh um people always ask me how how they'll always ask me but i have asked me in the past two different people at least uh about the difference in millennial humor and in between their humor and our humor and like these glyphs and glyphs and stuff on in the in that memes and their crazy stuff they're new and all that that wacky stuff and i i explained to somebody i said like when we did family ties and I had a joke, like let's say I had a, Justine said, did she and her boyfriend were going out and then how, how close they were.

43:57And it was like, they had one heart, one mind, one brain. And, and I, it set up for me. So now I just cut to me on his laughs. I haven't said anything yet. I go walk across the kitchen to the fridge, open the fridge, take up the juice, orange juice, glass out, pour the orange juice. All the while they're cutting to me and I'm leaving laughs. The laugh is building. and building and building and building and building. And then I walk over to the table. I put the glass down. They laugh. I sit down in the chair. They laugh. I look at her. They laugh. I hold, I hold, I hold, I hold. And then I say, who's using it tonight?

44:32And then the place goes crazy. And I showed that to my kids. I said, what's all the, you say the joke.

44:39Rob Lowe:They want it faster? They want it, they want cut to the, cut to the chase, cut to the joke. They want her to blow up into thousands of little frogs that scoot across the kitchen floor. and it just makes no sense. And we'll be right back after this. As a producer, I know how important it is to hire the right people, whether it's TV or on a film set. I'm looking for you who actually care about the work they do. If you're hiring, you want a candidate who's passionate about your role, but you can't get that insight from a resume unless you post your job on ZipRecruiter. And now you can try it for free at ziprecruiter.com slash Rob.

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47:38Rob Lowe:I was moved and sad and happy the same time in the book where it's your second retirement chapter. Yeah. I thought first it was really beautifully written, really evocative. What I love about your book are that they deliver on all the things you want them to deliver on. Right? Like authenticity, look behind the curtain, deeply personal, honest, dishy in just the right way. Right? Because you can't like, you can't be like a famous person and not like pretend like you didn't know any other famous people. so you gotta like but then it's also really sneaky moving and I was really moved by by that but more so by your attitude about it and you're like it is what it is you know I mean maybe this is it maybe it isn't but it feels like it is it yeah I don't want to push it it was an interesting moment because either just I hadn't seen it yet Once Upon a Time in Hollywood but there's a great scene where Leo does this thing and he's a guest actor on another guy's show and he can't remember his lines he goes back to the dressing room and he just excruciates himself, rips into himself tears himself apart about how he's fallen apart and he's no good anymore I had a similar thing on The Good Fight which I'd done The Good White for all those years and they had this spin-off and I went to reprise the character that I played on The Good Wife and I couldn't remember the lines.

49:29And when I tried to, it became almost funny, except that it was slowing down the production and everyone was getting pissed off. So I went back in the dressing room and I expected to have that moment where I looked in the mirror and said, what is the matter with you here? And I just kind of went, meh.

49:47I mean, I'm not going to kill myself because I can't remember seven pages of that.

49:51Rob Lowe:I think they actually had an alternate version of that in, in the Tarantino movie where Leo came back and looked at himself and they went, eh, but it didn't test well. The audience wasn't compelled by that. They love it. So that was it. That was the light bulb moment for you. Yeah. It was just, it just kind of said I don't need to be doing anything I don't want to be doing. And, and, and I just, I don't, I don't, I liked, I liked acting in a certain way that I, I had certain needs about it. No matter how much I challenged myself, So there was a facility and an organic talent to do it. And if that's impeded in some way and I can't access that, then there's no joy in it for me.

50:31And so I won't do it. But that's not to say someone can't come up with a great idea and a great concept in a way that I can use my challenges and my gifts in equal proportion. And so that may happen. But I'm not pounding the pavement looking for it. say who's got a screenplay that can take me to the top again like holly yeah i it's i it's really

50:53Rob Lowe:inspiring it really is because the other thing is like you've got nothing to prove you left it all in the gym you you guys it's it's not like you don't have a billion other areas in your life that you're you have interests and cool stuff to go do it's the amazing thing is that this is kind of where we started this conversation but gratitude about like recognizing what you've got and what what's hard and what's challenging and what's difficult, it only takes up so much space. It can't take up everything. It can only take up so much space, and then you have all the space to live your life. If you don't delineate it that way, if you don't clarify it and make those acknowledgments, then it's going to become this ooze that's going to seep in every crevice and cranny of your life, and you're never going to deal with it, and so it's going to be there, and so it's just an easy way.

51:42you. So I'm best to just confront it and say, oh, well, I can't do this. I've tried a couple times. I can't only do it. So I'm going to just step back and see what happens. I'm going to write a book. I hope you write more books. I'm going to write a more novel.

52:01Rob Lowe:Yeah, I was going to say, have you ever been compelled to write nonfiction? Yeah, that's what I like to try next. Or fiction, I mean. Fiction. You've written nonfiction now. I'm sorry. Fiction. Yeah. Yeah, I like to write. Harlan Coben is a good friend of mine. I just can't marvel at the way he – I'm golfing. I'll say, who's writing these books? I'm golfing with you. I'm not golfing with you. I'm texting with you. When are you writing the books? Saturdays? It's amazing. I think it's a great calling to be able to do that. And Tracy's good. How's my girl? Love her so much. You married well, sir.

52:38Rob Lowe:By the way, people say, Cheryl and I have been married 30 years now, and we're sort of the same in the long marriage department. People always ask, what do you attribute it to? And I say it's like when they asked Hitchcock about what do you attribute a hit movie to, he said it's all about casting. And I feel like marriage is like that, too. It's like you've got to choose the right person. It's funny you say that because I actually used to tell people, how did I meet Tracy? I cast her. I cast her as the girlfriend in Family Ties. She didn't, the same about Tracy, she didn't blink. When it got very early in our marriage, it got twisted very early in our marriage.

53:23Rob Lowe:Yeah. I got diagnosed and then I got sober a year later. And then the first couple of years after you get sober, like a knife right in the closet. It's not fun. And she didn't blink and she stayed with me. And then it just becomes, you know, all the regular stuff, the man-woman stuff, but also there's just friend stuff. It's so deep to trust the having each other and the understanding and the sense of humor. The fact that, like, you look at something and say, we could react to it this way or we could laugh and move on. And we laugh and move on. And it's just something beyond anything else. It's just like this bond, you know, after 30 years where you just start each other's sentences.

54:18Yeah.

54:19Rob Lowe:And the kids all seem to be doing great. I was happy to get to spend two seconds with them. I guess we ran into each other in Mexico last time. Yeah. and I couldn't believe how they're so big first of all why are my kids smaller than me and your kids are bigger than you how does that is that Tracy what the hell my goal was just to have as far as my son goes I just wanted him to be taller smarter better looking and accomplish those goals all those things and my daughters are amazing they're all grown up now my youngest is 18 my oldest is 31 My son is 31. I don't know where it goes. It's amazing.

55:04Rob Lowe:Yeah, I really resonated with that. You and Tracy learning to just chill now that the kids, your work is sort of done. Yeah. Now it becomes about you again. Yeah. And it's time to just reacclimate. Cheryl and I spent a lot of time doing that. And then COVID hit and the kids are back. Yeah. The minute I figured out my life without my kids in the house, go back in the house. I had the same experience. It's so weird. Yeah, we had them all in the house, and it was amazing. It was like I got to know them all over again. I got to – because Tracy cooked all these amazing meals, and we were having this experience.

55:42I got to recognize at the outset that there was this weird thing happening in the world, this dichotomy, where you had people like us and you, having our families together and using the time to have conversations and to do jigsaw puzzles and watch movies and share books and do all that stuff because there's nothing else to do. It was so energizing and beautiful. Then you have people looking through windows at loved ones they can't get to while they are in ventilators and hallways and overcrowded hospitals. To know it didn't make the other any less sweet, but you had to recognize it. It was a really interesting time.

56:27Rob Lowe:So you're saying it's about gratitude. That's definitely the theme of this talk is being grateful for, even in a time like that, for finding the good in it. You're the expert. I mean, I think you're a black belt in that. Black belt optimist. Yeah. You know, it's just a long joy life. and i think that was always uh the only thing we had going back in the 80s we were having a good time we never been conscious of a lot of it but we're having a good time we did it was a simpler time it was so we imagine if they had the internet then dude we didn't move i mean i'm telling you bro the adventures i want we you and i could write a book on the bus the celebrity bus tour we did through California for whenever some proposition, it was the best.

57:20Rob Lowe:It was so fun. I love that those pictures resurfaced. My kids, my kids find this. They do my Instagram, right? My daughters do it. And, and so they find these pictures and they say, I have this picture of you and Rob Lowe. And it was this guy, and it said Nelson. And then they made him watch the breakfast club. And it's also a great movie. Oh, such a good move. I mean, for my money, that's the one. I mean, that's to me, that and Fast Times, they're the two. Yeah. Fast Times is brilliant. So good. So it all connects. It all moves around because my kids are discovering. I found a picture of Eddie Van Halen passed away, and I was bumming about it.

58:02I was at breakfast, and I was saying how sad I was and how great he was. First time I heard Eruption, I couldn't believe that the human being did that. And then the school that they used his music in Back to the Future. And so I was talking about Eddie Van Halen. And then meanwhile, my daughter's on Cabinway on her cell phone. And she was a picture of me and Eddie Van Halen from 1981. And I said, my son was like, how cool is that? He's trying to picture dad and Eddie Van Halen. And it's amazing. It's a weird world.

58:34Rob Lowe:It is. I mean, you've got that Zellig vibe going, you know? It's like, there's something about that time, you know? Like, you know, I could Google you with almost anybody, and I bet you I could find it. Really, truly. There's some pictures. There's a picture of me, like me and boy George, talking at a kid. Because you'd just be talking to someone. You know, Ozzy Osbourne would come up behind you and throw his arm around your neck. And, you know, like I never met the guy, but we've been all, you know, looks like we've known each other since the Middle Ages. It's so great. You and, I mean, we didn't even talk about you and Joan Jett.

59:08Rob Lowe:Joan Jett. Yeah. Joan Jett, baby. That's a co-star. I had a picture of me, Joan Jett, and Alan Arkin. What? Because we were in Chicago, and we went to see – we were in Chicago during the light of day, and we went to see Blengarry Glen Ross, and Alan Arkin was in it. It's just weird. Three people like you'd never – you'd put everybody in a bag and shake out three. Mix them up. You'd never come up with those three. My kids found a picture of me and Drake. Oh, nice. And they were like, all of a sudden, I was really cool. Nah, he's Canadian. I know. But he's recent. There's a picture I got from, I don't know, you might even be in this picture.

59:53It's a picture from NBC from 1986. And they had all the NBC stars over the years in it. And so there's me and Cosby and guys like that. But there was like Red Buttons and Jack Benny and all these guys that were just still around then. who's the guy with the beach fonts? Oh, Milton Burrell. Milton Burrell, yeah.

1:00:17Rob Lowe:I was going to say, it wasn't James Woods. He wasn't in that photo. No, James Woods and Milton Burrell mixed up all the time. So, if you're a listener and you don't know the famous Milton Burrell story, I think, Mike, I think it's incumbent upon one of us to tell it, don't you think? When do you tell it? Yeah, so it's my producers are shaking their heads at me. Oh, I see. This is a bridge too far, is it? All of the things we've talked about in the podcast. Oh, I see. I don't want to offend their delicate sensibilities, but basically, here's a story about Milton Berle's dick.

1:00:57Rob Lowe:He's notoriously, right? Mike? I'm not making the... Please, Mike, you've got to back me up because my producers are giving me these looks like, I believe this is a terrible... And there's a way you can tell the story without getting to the meat of it, so to speak. yes it's just it's just that he would say there's some contention about who's who was bigger and by the way do you in in the contention part of this story who did you hear was the rival i have heard various people me too everyone from marlon brando to jackie gleason no i never heard that you know the two i heard i heard welly cox i've heard that too but not in this um i heard lee majors which makes sense timing wise and chuck norris the rifleman oh yeah yeah he took took chocanus took chocanus sorry um so they meet they know that they know that every girl says about this one and that one and they decide you just you just know you know you just know i think they call it big dick energy now.

1:02:04Rob Lowe:There's a whole thing the kids call it. Only these days. Ask your kids. There's a whole thing. And it's been created by the kid from SNL. He's the originator of big dick energy. Of the skinny guy? Yeah. Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson is the originator of today's big dick energy. But before Pete Davidson, there was Milton Berle. So they say, I'll bet your mind's no dot. And then And they go, okay, let's look at them. And Milton Burroughs' friend leans over to Milton and says, Milton, just take out enough to win. I thought it was different. I thought it was, are you really going to pull it out? Milton and Milton said, just enough to win.

1:02:49Rob Lowe:I love it. I like that version better. Yeah, well, I did the comedy thing. Just enough to win. Just enough to win. That's really good. Just enough to win. And who do you like better? who do you cast in the other part? I like the Lee Majors thing. It's really great. Me too. With Marlon Brando. Some guy who's a stud. Six million dollar man. What do you think they spent the money on? They rebuild him. They rebuild him. They didn't stop at his arm. They're like, if we're going to rebuild him, let's really do it. If you're building it and they kind of like, you got any ideas for down there?

1:03:39Or better yet, he woke up a dock while you're at it. Yeah, while you're down there. A little something for the effort.

1:03:48Rob Lowe:Which is nice. See, this could go on forever. This is the greatest. What's your plan for today? What do you got on the docket? I got to do daily show. Oh, no way. Oh, that's great. Yeah. You're my warm-up. I love it. I don't want to exhaust you. Well, what happened was my drugs wore off, so I turned into a pumpkin, but you're accommodating it very well. No, you're the best. Mike, you know how much I love you, and there are very few people that really know, I mean, we've been through it, the ups and the downs, and we'll go years without seeing each other, but it doesn't make any difference. I feel like you're like a fraternity brother of mine.

1:04:33Rob Lowe:Yeah, very much so. I think the same thing. I think we went through a time and an experience that was really crazy and dangerous and sordid, but it was lovely and sweet and very fraternal and very much kind of a look in the eye of someone, whether it's you or whether it's whoever. I mean, just look at him and you know what didn't need to be said and what could be said several times. Well, I love you, brother. And I'll let you know when I get the TM thing going. Yeah. And I'll meet you on the TM highway. And congrats on the book. Have fun on the book tour. Thank you. Give Tracy a hug for me. Tell those kids I said hi.

1:05:19Rob Lowe:Well, I'd be happy to. All right, brother. I love you. All right. Thank you, man. You bet. Bye.

1:05:28Rob Lowe:Wow, that leaves me feeling so great. My heart is just warmed. I'm always warmed seeing Foxy or as he could have been called, Michael A. Fox. I think he should have gone with it. I think that should have been his name. He is a fox. He always will be in my book. All right, I hope you guys loved it as much as I did. That was a pretty great talk with a pretty great man. All right, y 'all, I will see you next week. By the way, if you like the show, give us a nice rating on Apple or wherever the hell you rate this show I like that I like when because I read them I do comments are good so keep them coming and thank you and I'll see you next week you have been listening to Literally with Rob Lowe produced and engineered by me Devin Torrey Bryant executive produced by Rob Lowe for Low Profile Adam Sachs and Jeff Ross at Team Coco and Colin Anderson and Chris Bannon at Stitcher The supervising producer is Aaron Blair.

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