Robert Downey Jr: History Class (Re-Release)

22:38Rob Lowe:It's so good. It's unflinching. It was not well-received. It didn't make any money. Brett Easton Ellis' book was phenomenal. It was the catcher in— Less Than Zero. Yeah, Less Than Zero was the catcher in the rye of my generation. Yes. And McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City, that our boy Michael J. also did, was—it might have actually been a better film, but people were just not really into youngsters doing films about books that people already had a vision in their mind for. Yeah. But I do remember that was the first film I ever did where the director took me seriously and required others to.

23:18What was yours? Oh, boy.

23:20Rob Lowe:I mean, look, I, I, I, I start what Coppola did right out of the bat on Outsiders. I mean, because that's just what he, you know, you, he's the real deal. You know now that there's a whole movement toward the casting prep and the whole story behind how everybody wound up in The Outsiders is on the horizon. People are talking about it, wanting to know more about it because it was such a novel casting procedure. Which I go down the YouTube rabbit hole with behind the scenes of things. I've been watching Apocalypse Now. And apparently Francis was doing that even on Godfather and Apocalypse where you just have every actor you've ever thought of in a room at the same time.

24:00Rob Lowe:Everybody reads. And then, okay, you sit down and you play this and everybody watches everybody. before. It was mental. And for young actors now, where I would say this may be the oddest, most fabulous, opportune time to be starting, just to say that there is, was, and always has been a precedent of something that you wonder, like, I wonder if we could be this egalitarian and have these kind of experiences. Whether I get the part or not, I just want to start creating a history where I feel like there are filmmakers, creators, showrunners, whatever, who actually aren't just about watching self-tapes and looking at, you know, whatever.

24:44I don't know.

24:44Rob Lowe:I mean, everybody who went through the Outsiders process, even if they didn't get the part, remembers it. It affected them. They learned something from it. It was like you're alluding to. It was an experience. Yeah. Why don't we do that on everything? I think one needs a Coppola, whether he, she, or them is in the offing right now. I would imagine so. I mean, look at just, yeah, even just this year in film. Yep. There's so much reemergence of real storytelling. Think about this though. You're amazing at Oppenheimer. Christopher Nolan is the Coppola of our time, right? but he doesn't do that because he doesn't need to he just has somebody in his mind and calls them up and everybody says yes think about that though like Francis could have done that yep and he doesn't ever I think you know not to come at the drop of a name but I was fortunate enough to have dinner with Spielberg last week he's the nicest man and he was just as an offhanded kind of oh you know are you aware of and he told us the story of how the crawl at the beginning of Star Wars happened.

26:01And it was because De Palma was in a screening up in Sanford in the Bay Area where all these filmmakers, Coppola, Spielberg, all these folks were together and just stood up and was like, ah, it doesn't make sense. And where am I? Where in space? Is it the future? And this and that. And so this open forum of discussion with our peers for Coppola, for Spielberg, for, you know, et cetera, was a matter of course because they didn't think not to do that. And I believe that it was also if we're, let's imagine this is happening now. There's an opportunity for a new generation of maverick storytellers to decide what kind of culture they want to live in and offer others the chance to experience.

26:49And maybe it's a sign of the times. And also maybe we just don't know about the people who work more that way. But I'm glad that we have that memory and we can bring it into the future as at least an idea or say, hey, our version of this was ABC. Tell us what your DEF is.

27:06Rob Lowe:What was the process on Tropic Thunder? It was my favorite movie ever. Let me say, okay, your performance in Tropic Thunder is, you were nominated for it. Correct. And just, it's unbelievable. Everybody knows. It goes without saying. It's become a cliche to say how good you are in it. it's such a cliche that when you watch it again, it's even better than you remember it. I, I, I, I, only I statements. I was even more fortunate to have been invited to Norman Lear's for a little shiva last weekend. And then I was looking back at All in the Family and they had a a little disclaimer that they were running at the beginning of the show.

27:57People should look it up exactly what it is because it is an antidote to this clickbait addiction to grievance that it seems like we have with everything nowadays. But I draw a line between All in the Family and Tropic Thunder in that he said, due to the content of this show, please understand that we're looking at bigotry and racism and all this stuff through a lens that we might laugh at it to understand how pointless it, whatever it is. I should look up, I don't want to try to.

28:27Rob Lowe:The language is good though. You like the language. Yeah. And the language was saying, hey, this is the reason that we are doing these things that in a vacuum you could pick apart and say are wrong or bad. And there used to be an understanding with an audience. And I'm not saying that the audience is no longer understanding, I'm saying that things have gotten very muddied. So the spirit in which Stiller directed and cast and shot Tropic Thunder in was essentially as a railing against all of these tropes that are not right and had been perpetuated for too long. I remember you coming to visit me in Santa Barbara and telling me you had done it and give me a little preview of the character.

29:14Rob Lowe:My kids still talk about it. Oh, my gosh. Matthew still talks about you sitting up by the pool and you giving me a little bit of some trouble. And it blew their minds. And I draw a line between that and Putney Swope. Yes, of course. Yes. Where my dad had to revoice the lead actor who was black because of a bunch of technical reasons. And so to me, that had something to do with my father and I and the fact that he directed Putney Swope. Wow, I never put that together. Of course it does. In the late 60s. And then I draw a line for some reason between that and Oppenheimer where I felt like I was, I never met my grandfather, Robert Elias.

30:01He was a Jew. He did the glass at the Chrysler Building. He was a multi-tour soldier in World War II. and I'm sure that he knew what he was fighting for, and he was a very, very principled guy, and I feel like I never met him, but I feel like part of me played him or played an aspect of him as well as depicting Louis Strauss in that film. And I'm sure you have a million stories like this too where it's like everyone thinks this on the surface, but my little kernel of like what was my either inspiration or what was the thing that makes it meaningful to me, etc. I remember speaking to you two or three weeks in on Oppenheimer, and you were talking about working in a gear.

30:49Rob Lowe:I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it was interesting. It was like you're working in a gear that you haven't worked in in a while. And we all have our monkey tricks. Everybody does. You don't make it without having your special thing that you do. And in this, what you told me is my recollection is I'm not doing any of that stuff. That's what you told me. Yeah. I tried everything else. And then when I watched the performance, it's unlike anything you've done. It's like unlike anything you've done, there's a world in which you don't even know that it's you. it's I don't know I mean it's so nuanced but still has all of your unique energy that only you have like everybody like there's a downy energy that we all love it and we know it when we see it it's got that but it's modulated in a way that I've never seen before and some of it's the age that you're playing of course but and it's the character work but it's spectacular it's so good so so good Somebody described it.

32:01One of your mutual friends recently said,

32:04Rob Lowe:you seen Bobby and Oppenheimer yet? I said, yeah, I have. He goes, it's pretty great. It's like, I love it for him. I love it for him so much. It's just like he walks in and goes, hey, how you, you motherfuckers, you've forgotten? You've forgotten? And just takes his big dick out and puts it on the table. And there is a little bit of that. And that's taking nothing away from the Marvel world. Nothing, zero. But this is like, yeah, yeah, bros. Chaplain. Yeah, bro. It's funny that there's part of all of us that is driven by this need to be demonstrative of what we're capable of. Yes. But I think maybe that's a human condition.

32:47I'll say this, part of what informs whatever we do, and in this case Oppenheimer, was I've never been in a movie ever where the stakes of what were going on in the film were so real before. And there was something about that where there was, forget gravitas, there was just a, there was an onus on it to go like, remember what the scene is about? This isn't about how's your voice, how's your movement, how are you feeling within the context? Like this is about, besides the information age and now the impending coming of age of AI, it's these two things. It's the existential threat of the nuclear age and now the information age.

33:35Rob Lowe:What was Nolan like as a director? Like a good dad. However, I didn't know, I know my dad and he was good for me because I'm here with you and everything's okay. Right. So, an after-the-fact good dad. Yeah. Yep. By the way, if you haven't seen Downey's documentary Senior, it's spectacular. Thank you. I love that documentary. Your documentary on your father, it just blew my mind. It's so good. It's on Netflix now. If you really want to understand Downey. It's so good. Anyway. Does everyone remember everything they did during the pandemic? Because. I know. I kind of do, and I also give myself permission for anything that was a little rough around the edges.

34:26I'm in this senior doc, and I'm wearing a beanie and chewing Nicorette gum. I look completely insane. That's what's great about it. Okay. That's great because there's no vanity. Yeah, I just forgot to be vain. I was sitting at this desk right here.

34:42Rob Lowe:That's why we have Makeup and Hero today. Well, by the way, if nothing else, I feel like you and I have really, you know, stuck it to the new kids on the block. If they have the gumption to get into practically full drag makeup to do a podcast, then I got time for them. I'm with you. There was a question in there somewhere. We were talking about Nolan. Oh, yeah. Chris Nolan, I tried to describe him the other day, and so I just want to talk about what it means metaphorically. Some people have a gargoyle on each shoulder. One gargoyle is, if you approach me with your ego first, you're going to be turned to dust.

35:25I like it. And the other shoulder is a gargoyle that's sweet. And it says, please come here. If you're not ready and you're not prepared, I'm going to turn you to dust. So both are gargoyles that are meant to keep the uninitiated out of the holy space. Yep. And I'm not saying he is the holy space, but I'm saying that he has such a reverence for what he does. And very much in the vein of a Coppola and a Spielberg and a name, the great filmmakers. Everyone's got their own entree into what it is. His is dedication, discipline, and a commitment to excellence. and those are rarely all in the same place.

36:16So going into that space with him was very life-changing.

36:20Rob Lowe:Well, it's all on screen. Are you excited about, what does Tom Hanks call it? The trophy run? Well, you never forget your third time. Chaplin was great. I was a fucking kid. Kid? The worst thing that could have happened would have been for me to win. Also, you know, Pacino, Scent of a Woman, I tipped my hat and it was his turn. Yep. With Tropic Thunder, I was a little older. I was just so busy working. I did Iron Man, Tropic Thunder, and the first Sherlock pretty much back to back. And Heath Ledger, whom I share a birthday with, won that year and more than deservedly. So God bless his heart. What a once in a generation talent.

37:14And now between my wife, who's the Chris Nolan of my spiritual development and Chris Nolan, who's the Chris Nolan of my artistic development, it just feels like this kind of quintessential moment where it has very little to do with what happens next and a lot to do with just appreciating that us human beings do tend to evolve and grow. And sometimes there's a feedback loop for that that feels good. Yeah, I like it.

37:50Rob Lowe:I mean, it's going to be fun to watch. I'm obviously voting for you. Thank you. Can I get confirmation for that? Yeah, I'll take a picture. I'll screenshot it and take a picture of you. Can you imagine if I was on some sort of weird campaign now? Dude, I won't name who, but there's a very famous TV creator, one of the most famous, successful, who regularly sends out email blasts reminding people to vote for. Them? Yeah, for, you know, the shows. Okay. The shows. Well, you got to be, like, again, advocate for self. There's a lot of different versions of that. I think yours and mine is more about ultimately it's any instinct that insinuates survival and continuance is worth pursuing.

38:43Rob Lowe:Did you ever think when we were trying, you know, at one of those clubs in New York area or Save the Robots or… Danceiteria. Danceiteria. How about Save? What a great name for a club. Save the Robots was a good one. Save the Robots. Ugh. That, like, we're alive. Yeah. And we're sober. And we get to mentor people. And we get to do work we love. We have great wives. Yeah. And kids. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's. I just want to do a quick shout out to Cheryl Lowe, who we were on vacation somewhere. And Susan was like, I've never been with a girlfriend friend who basically took me in the other room and said, get some lingerie.

39:34Rob Lowe:That's my girl. That's my girl. She's a Spengali, my wife. Oh, she's such a badass. She's a Spengali. She did the podcast and she was unbelievable. Wait a second. She did the podcast. Why are we not just listening to that? We're wasting time. You have to listen to it. Can't wait. Oh, it's everything you think and more. You know, there's a thing occurring recently too, and now you're amongst them, where Dax Shepard interviewed one of my favorite humans on earth, Tom Hansen, the entertainment lawyer. Oh, sure. Right? And now I think as a matter of, we need to help sometimes as a consumer. I need people to transcend what they believe public interest is and just expose me to things and people and lives that I didn't know I needed to know about.

40:22Rob Lowe:Yes, for sure. Yeah. we've had a couple guests like that recently Nicole Levant came on and told her story about dealing with grief and what happened with her family this year and it was super emotional and great and I don't get to do it as much as I would like but I'm definitely pivoting the show in that direction because people know that what they're getting which is great and it's good to use that to introduce people to stuff that they might not otherwise You're good at this. This is natural to you and for you. Right. I feel, because I'm curious and I like to, you know, I like to listen and I like to learn.

41:04I don't think people know that, I hate to use the I word, but you are an intellectual. You're a very educated and self-educated person. And then just the experiences you've had. and the um and by the way sometimes it's those turning points too where we have been out in the cold and said what am i supposed to learn now yes and i think those things can forge a bit of an a new version of the same identity that that is a not so brittle a little more

41:36Rob Lowe:malleable but also more capable because well thank you and you know we both have had periods in our careers where, you know, things were, we haven't exactly been on fire. Yep. And that is where you learn. That's where you learn what you're made of. Well, and the funny thing was, you know, I finished the Marvel run and then arguably the most important project I have ever done and will ever do was the experience of all the promise with Steve Gagin, who I genuinely believe is a gifted-ass fella. and me and Susan and all these folks doing Doolittle and it just didn't work. And I felt so exposed after being in the cocoon of Marvel where I think I did some of the best work I will ever do, but it went a little bit unnoticed because of the genre.

42:31And I felt myself like, in a way, I did myself a favor because the rug was pulled so definitively out from underneath me and all the things that I was leaning on as opposed to what my understanding of confidence and security was. Boy, did they evaporate. And it rendered me teachable. And the crazy thing is they say, when the student is ready, the Nolan will come. I mean, the teacher will come. And that's what happened.

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43:41Rob Lowe:And in terms of outcomes, 93 % of RULA patients report symptom improvement. If therapy has been sitting in the back of your mind, RULA is a pretty simple way to take that first step. So turn off the talk track that's keeping you from progress and head to RULA.com. That's R-U-L-A.com to find a therapist the easy way. Guys, let's face it. As we get older, we can't just skip sleep and eat whatever we want and still feel great the next day. But if you're entering your men's health era, you know it can feel complicated. Sprouts Farmer's Market makes it easier. Not only do Sprouts have the high-protein foods, nutrient-dense organic produce, and innovative snacks your body craves, It's also got the newest supplements, vitamins, joint support, even creatine to help get you feeling more like you used to.

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46:42when people ask me about longevity and doing in this business it's that kind of story you just

46:50Rob Lowe:heard is is the crux of the whole thing and and and that everybody goes their time in the wilderness hopefully multiple times because that means you've had a long career. I mean, that's what you want. That's where you grow. It's hard to learn anything when everything is falling into place and you're on top of the world. Very, very, very tough, professionally or personally. I was thinking about this this morning too because sometimes folks like to talk about their down and out moments as being that they're definitive. I think it's equal parts. We need the wins, bro. we need those moments that give us hope and confirmation that we're heading in a direction that is viable and then the ultimate course corrector is a swift kick in the crotch yeah it's the double whammy the good double whammy yeah um okay we got to do 80s greatest hits we got to do love it we got to give the people yeah um what's a good format for this i mean And I'll just start with one of the most important people in my life as far as just a first friend and someone who vouched for me and went out of their way to help me feel.

48:07He taught me more about how one should comport themselves than anybody, Anthony Michael Hall. So he's the lead of Weird Science. He's one of the biggest stars in the world. He is a genius level talent. and everyone is telling him that and he's trying not to listen to it too much and he's still very work focused and he sees me audition for Weird Science. He never takes his eye off me. He practically demands that I get to audition for Saturday Night Live. I get that job. We do a season together. And then shortly after that, I'd run out of dough again, as one tends to when you're hand to mouth and he cast me in Johnny B.

48:49Good with him and it was Uma Thurman's first film. My dad is in that film. Paul Gleason is in that film. Seymour Cassell is in that film. Marshall Bell is in that film. A lot of old school, new school folks.

49:03Rob Lowe:Yep. And to this day, I'm actually developing something for him right now that I would probably direct a little bit and show up for in him. And he just had a kid and got mad. That's great. So yeah, the point of departure is Anthony Michael Hall, full stop. I remember meeting him on the set of 16 Candles when he had braces. I think I was scouting for class or something. That was a wonderful time, all the Chicago stuff. You didn't do any of the Chicago movies though, right? No, except Weird Science. I think we shot at the Skokie Mall. We did do a little mall work and the rest was all on stage. We did some mall work.

49:45And it was great.

49:46Rob Lowe:We did a little mall work. now how close were you with Beatty during the James Toback movie Pickup Artist was and Molly obviously of course well that's kind of a really odd story because you won't find Warren Beatty's name anywhere associated with the movie The Pickup Artist that's so insane because I remember as it was all being put together Warren was my guy like I wanted to be Warren he was my favorite whatever who didn't making this movie and there's a part that I would be perfect for in theater my phone never rang. But it was a war. You would have thought it was a Warren movie. Sure. And yet, his name is nowhere around that now.

50:26Well, the long and short of that is in typical super genius fashion. He was trying to get James Toback to finish the fucking script for Bugsy. And part of the way he was cajoling him along was, I believe, getting the pickup artist set up for Toback to direct. Interesting. At the same token, though, So here's some memories. I just remember shooting on the streets of New York, Upper West Side, Beatty, just his pants, the New Balance low top sneakers, the Sherry Netherlands hotel room with a perfect little weight set. And the fact that we were on set, he's the first person I ever saw that had micro sides where they'd been shrunk down to something you could fit into a paperback book.

51:08And I was like, oh my God, look what they've done to his sides. And then he got a little Zabar's delivery and he was having like coups, coups and just the right amount of stuff. And at lunch one day, pick a topic, as you know. He knows everything about everything and he'll tell you. So I was having a piece of fish and I think there was some chopped tomatoes on it. Went to take a bite. He goes, never eat fish with tomatoes on top of it. They digest it to completely different rhythms. And I was like, note to self, never eat fish with tomatoes on it.

51:44Rob Lowe:Don't you love people like that? Of course. You know who's like his Travolta? Travolta has great knowledge of life. How could he not? Great not. And like he's like, I just want to sit on his shoulder and learn from people like that. Yeah. And everyone I know that's worked with Travolta is like they have come away from it, incorporating things that he brought to the process with them. And that's ultimately what we want to do. We want to be additive to our fellows. Duvall. Give me some Duvall, baby. I mean. Maybe one of the greatest actresses ever lived. Yes. Just without saying. Yeah. It's impossible.

52:31It's impossible to describe how not daunting it was. And yet at the same time you go, oh my God, that's Bobby Duvall. I wonder if he likes me. A lot of it was just that. A lot of it was just, we're doing all these scenes and the scene would end and he'd smile or go back to his trailer or say, hey, we should have a steak. You want to have a steak? A steak. He loves good steak. He loves talking about horses, neither of which I'm particularly well-versed in. So I would just like nod my head and I go, yes, steak. Yes, horses. Does he like me? That's amazing. And then the biggest thing with Duvall is you work with him, but then you see what he did in plain sight that you weren't aware of when you see the finished product.

53:14And you go, wow, dude, this is a absolute master of this craft of screen acting. Because he makes it look easy? Because all the work he does goes into these subtleties where he communicates something that is so beyond the text that you feel it in a way that is, he's talking directly to the viewer. And it's really hard to keep that plate spinning. I also think he doesn't take himself too seriously he takes his work very seriously and also we created a little family that was Jeremy Strong in one of his first times on film I forgot Jeremy was in that and Vince D 'Onofrio geez who is a legendary guy Vera Farmiga who is I don't I don't even know who you can compare her to she's such a singular actor but yeah Duvall so we were walking through the Benny shell and you go, what is that?

54:09And he gave me his copy of the script for MASH.

54:13Rob Lowe:That's amazing. What a gift. I know. It's not just that he gave it to me. It's that there's a little ring stain on it from the coffee he put on top of it after the read-through or whatever. And those are the parts of history where you go, the script is a script. Everybody had one, but this was his working script. And that's literally, that to me is as important to me as if someone had, like when Norman Lear was touring the Declaration of Independence. That's, this whole vibe today has been so great. I mean, it's been, we've been talking about doing this forever. We're both so busy and we're able to carve this time out to do it and catch up.

54:54Rob Lowe:And I mean, it just, it's been fantastic. It really, really, really has. And I'm so excited for people who've seen Oppenheimer and for you to continue to be recognized for it. It's so deserving. It's a win for the good guys, man. It's just such a win for the good guys. I could not be more proud of you and love you so much. Thank you, brother. Meanwhile, now that we know the spot and we basically have lunch, we get all dolled up for no one except us. Just us. And all the content we grabbed. And then I want to commit to, as long as you do this, I want to be part of the cadence of it. I would love it.

55:36Rob Lowe:People are going to love this. You're the best. Love you, man. You are kind, and you're easy on the eyes, you fucker. Strong hair. The hair. Listen, I— You didn't say fucking anything about my hair, and you're expecting me to come back for episode 200? No, no. Your hair— There are times when I go, oh, Downey's going with that. Interesting. There are two people whose hair I track. I track Pitt. Oh, you got to. I track you, and I track Beckham. So there's three people. Well, I want to say, too, I will be posting around the time of this. It was a random shot of Lowe in the chair getting ready, and it's hard to discern at first glance whether it's him or Brad Pitt.

56:22So I might sneak in some Brad Pitt photos, and I'm going to trick you. It's a Trump loi.

56:27Rob Lowe:Okay, I like that. Thank you. I like that. That's good. My God, what a gift this has been to the audience. Oh, God. So funny.

56:44Rob Lowe:Oh, so much fun. I hope you guys like that as much as I did. God, that was great. There's nobody like him. Love that man so much. Ring, ring. What's that? Oh, it's the lowdown line.

57:00Hello, you've reached literally in our lowdown line where you can get the lowdown on all things about me, Rob Lowe. 323-570-4551.

57:16Rob Lowe:So have at it. Here's the beep. Hi, Rob Lowe. My name is Cheryl Charming And today is my one year anniversary Of living and traveling America In a camper van Oh my god, I download your podcast And then I listen to them while driving Love it! Thank you, thank you so much Rob, for riding along with me And thank you for your entertaining podcast I really, really enjoy it Now, if you could swap lives with one of your many characters for one day, who would it be and why? And how do you think they'd handle being Rob Lowe for one day? Thank you again, Rob. Bye. Oh, wow. What a great question. And what a great life you're leading.

58:12Rob Lowe:I thought you were going to say, if you could swap places with me, where would you want to go in the camper? Because that sounds like you are living your best life. So congratulations. And I'm super glad to be a part of it. All right. So it might be fun to be JFK for a day. I played, you know, JFK in Killing Kennedy. That would be fun. and I feel like he would have, he would fit in very well with my life. I think that would be a good one.

58:53Rob Lowe:I would have said a few years ago, Sam Seaborn, I would have liked to have gone into the White House, but politics being what it is now, I don't really have any desire to do that anymore. Although I could go with Dr. Jack Starts from Behind the Candelabra and see what it would be like to be a pill addled, stretched faced, B level Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, that might be kind of a, kind of a jam for a day. Right. But he would definitely not do well with the stuff that I have to do on a daily basis. Anyway, thank you for, for listening and enjoy the open road. Thank you guys for listening. There is more to come here on Literally.

59:40Rob Lowe:I will see you next time.

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