We Are the Champions: Conversations About Sports (w/ Michael Strahan, Joe Buck, Caitlyn Jenner, Clayton Kershaw, and More)

24:02Rob Lowe:Here's Joe Buck. To bring back Monday Night Football to what it was, I think, is great. Because you and I remember what that was. It was the only time you could see football that wasn't on a Sunday. The ceremony around it was such a big deal. And I've always felt without disrespecting anybody that they've never had, they haven't had the booth in a long, long time to make it what it should be. And now they do. It's funny. I mean, it's weird for me to talk about that stuff, but I do know what you're saying with regard to the property because my dad was doing the radio back then. And there's somebody who sent me this article when I first got hired at ESPN last year, my dad being quoted because he was doing the radio.

24:50My dad was with Hank Stram. And then two booths down was Howard Cosell, Frank Gifford and Don Meredith. I mean, and I mean, that's as good as it gets. And my dad's quoted in this article like, well, Howard's full of, you know what? You can now turn the radio, the TV volume down and turn the radio volume up and we'll take them on. I was like, damn, dad was feisty back in the 70s. But I did see that as a kid. Two booths down was like, man, I thought my dad was cool. Look at what's going on over there. They're wearing these burnt yellow jackets and they're having fun and it's bright lights and they've got security and police escort out of the game.

25:35And we're like hitching a ride to get back to the hotel. So it was ingrained in me as a young man what that was all about. And to get a chance to do it is pretty cool.

25:48Rob Lowe:What do you say to people who... I had this long discussion with somebody the other day who was involved in purchasing the rights to MLB that it's shrinking because less kids are growing up playing it. baseball's always had nostalgia as a part of its appeal. And with each generation, there's less, it's less nostalgia, so less appeal. And that the audience is between how long the games are, although the pitch clock has made a huge difference. God, that pitch clock turned out to be an amazing thing. Do you have an opinion on the prognosis of baseball going forward as as compared to the NFL and the other big sports.

26:33Yeah, I mean, you're right about the pitch clock. And I think it was such a drastic measure that they took and they took it because they had to. It was, everybody was so hung up, even baseball. I remember when I was there and they're like, hey, we got the average time of game from 309 down to 302. And it's like, that to me is not the problem. NFL games last three hours. NBA games, I'm sure, are shorter, but that's not the issue. The issue is there's a lack of action once the inning starts. And so, you know, guys stepping off, guys stepping out of the box. It takes forever to throw a pitch. Your Dodgers had a guy, right-hander Baez.

27:18When you're broadcasting games, like, oh, my God, throw the ball. It's just – and it went on and on and on. There was nothing pushing them to actually make a pitch. So they did the right thing. And hopefully speeding things up helps. I also think banning the shift. And I was not smart enough to know the byproduct of all this. But when you have left-handed batters coming up and you put everybody on the right side of the infield, I was waiting for hitters to adjust, and they never adjusted. I don't get it. Why did that not happen? I talked to Joe Madden about it for an hour. I'm like, what? First of all, you know, I brought up Matt Carpenter, who was a Cardinal player, Max Muncy.

28:05Yeah. You know, that kind of guy. Yeah. I said, how many times would it take him to bunt successfully to the left side? And I'm talking about it in like one, two run games in the eighth, ninth innings of World Series games. How many times would it take him to bunt successfully for you to not shift against him? He's like, I'll take that bunt hit all day long. I don't want the home run. I'm like, really? But if he said, okay, 12, I need to see it 12 times for me to not shift. But what it did is now if I'm a left-handed bat or if I'm Muncy or Carpenter or Otani or whoever, the one place they can't get it if they overload the infield and in times the outfield is over the wall.

28:49So it's just launch, launch, launch. Well, when guys stand up there against pitchers throwing 98 and it's just launch, launch, launch, it's just swing and a miss, swing and a miss, swing and a miss, foul ball, swing and a miss, struck him out. It's just, and yeah, you're going to get your home runs. But that action is like that. Like the game I fell in love with, and this gets into the get off my lawn stuff, and I hate it because it's not. I truly feel like the game was more compelling with the Dodgers teams you grew up on. It wasn't all power. There was nuance. There was get a guy on, steal a base, move him over with the ground ball on the right side, bring him in with a fly ball to the outfield.

29:33Kind of the strategy and the beauty of the game is gone. So I feel like it's a tough sell for kids. I've got five-year-olds with the girls in their 20s. and I want them to love baseball and I hope they continue to evolve and make changes that speed up and add to the action of the game to try to get it back to the game that I know I fell in love with. And I'll love baseball until I'm gone. It's a part of my DNA. But I know they worry about the next generation and what the next generation and the one after that thinks about the game. And I think they have to do everything they can to get them into the tent to watch the sport And they know that.

30:15That's why they've made the changes they've made.

30:25Rob Lowe:Michael Strahan. Let me ask you this. If you were back in your day at your height and you were on an unblocked blitz and the running back was George Stephanopoulos, how far would you hit him into the next universe? Oh, oh. I don't know if I would want to hit him and drive him, like knock him back. I think with George, I would do what, you know, you hit him and you lift him. And then when you land, you put all your weight on him. Piledrive him. Yeah, you pile drive him so he feels his bones kind of all together. Yes. Your weight. And then you stand up and you say, oh, I didn't mean to do that. Are you okay, George?

31:06You know. How? I want it's so fun. Rob, I tell you, it's so much fun. When you see a guy standing there and he doesn't see you coming and you are full speed and you're like, oh, baby, I like it like that. I like it like that. Oh, it's going to get, oh, it's so much fun. And we can hear the art, because you don't hear anything when you're on the field. When you get down there to line up, 80 ,000 people scream, but it's silent. Only thing you hear, you hear the quarterback, You can hear the guy across from you breathing. You can hear guys talking. You're talking. You hear your linebacker. Only thing you hear is within like 20 feet.

31:46But the second you hit somebody like that, all of a sudden it's like they cranked the sound up on your headphones and like the loudest they could do it. It's the best feeling in the world. Oh, my God. It's the best feeling.

31:57Rob Lowe:Do you remember your – what's your greatest hit? My greatest hit was probably Gus Farrad. Oh, Gus Farrad. Yeah. Redskins. It actually was on a two point conversion. It would suck because I got a sack, but it doesn't count on a two point conversion. But I set up this move all day long, this inside move, man. And I, it was perfection. And Gus is just standing there. He doesn't see me. And when I tried to, I mean, I want to be, okay, people, I used to be violent in a sense, controlled violence, and not anymore. I'm very docile now. But at that moment in my life, young and crazy, I was trying to take his spine and make it come out of the front of his chest.

32:48Like, I just wanted to run through him that hard. And when I tell you, I think I almost accomplished it.

32:59I almost accomplished it. It was the hardest hit to the point where you hit somebody like that. You're like, oh, I know that hurt. Oh, it was fantastic. Fantastic. Did he get up? No, he didn't get up. He was there for a bit. He was down for a bit. He was there for a bit. He was down for a bit. He was down for a bit.

33:20Rob Lowe:you know i heard is this true that that when you were you were really little like like in 12 and 13 that your fan like your brothers or sisters were like you're fat i can't imagine that that's that is not you know what they call me fat they were nicer than that they called me bob and i didn't know what bob meant so like for years i thought bob was like a nickname like okay go bob I'm the youngest of six, so I'm hanging out with my brother and all their friends. They're calling me Bob. I think that's cool. I'm a young kid in this group. I got a nickname. I'm in. Bob meant booty on back. No. Big old butt.

33:57Yeah, that's what it meant. Big old butt. Yeah, I was a little chunky. I was big boned, as I like to say. But I'll be honest with you. Without them doing that to me, man, I would not have ended up where I ended up. I would not have probably played football, worked out or done anything because that motivated me to like get in shape. And and still to this day, it motivates me to this day. I bought the Jane Fonda workout VHS tapes. I started doing those. Hertha Walker coming out of Georgia. I bought the Hertha Walker workout book and I went to Heidelberg, Germany when Hertha was there doing like an appearance for Kodak overseas.

34:39And I met him when I was 13 and took a picture with him. and later on I played with him with the Giants and against him when he was at Dallas and Philadelphia in Minnesota. So it's like, it was like full circle, but without them making fun of me, I would have still been a big bone dude walking around right now.

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36:51Rob Lowe:James O 'Brien from Jomboy Media. As we talk today, we got to pour one out for Fernando. Yeah. Fernando Valenzuela. I, my memory, I'm curious to know what your memories are when you think of Fernando who passed away just, just, just recently. I remember him, I believe, you know, the problem with being such a lifelong baseball fan is you, with any early memory, you begin, you begin to question it. You know what I mean? Was that really? Did I? I remember him coming out of the bullpen against the Houston Astros when we had to win to advance. And I believe it was his first major league appearance.

37:37And then he started the following year.

37:42Rob Lowe:But I think I was, I think I was, and people who know this will be able to confirm it or not, but I believe I was in the stadium for his first appearance and then obviously got to see him a ton. But what a, Fernando mania, it was mania. I wasn't alive So I My My memories of him Are just through the stories Which sometimes is Even better Because everything gets Bigger in the retelling And the lore is great But Yeah What an entrance The bullpen entrance For a debut Or a big moment like that Is It's such a spectacle It's where baseball Becomes television When they have that shot Of him like You know Entering the stadium To a crowd cheering And Do you know with this When did When did walk-up songs start?

38:25Rob Lowe:Who started it? When did it become like accepted throughout the league? I'm not sure. The Yankees, you know, Mariano Rivera had his song. He was a closer. And I think at that point, not every closer had a song. Maybe even now, not every closer has a song. But every hitter has walk-up music. And I have no idea when that started. I think that's been around my whole lifetime. But in the late 90s, maybe it wasn't. Yeah, it certainly wasn't when I was growing up watching the Big Red Machine and, you know, the 78 and 81 Yankees-Dodgers World Series, which I was lucky enough to go to both of them. I have great memories of that.

39:08Rob Lowe:Oh, my God. Like they were yesterday. They were so sick. Reggie Jackson, man. So I'm hit a fucking moonshot into the Dodger Stadium bullpen. They used to have a palm tree that grew in the right field bullpen and Reggie basically hit it into the palm tree. That's awesome. when you have obstacles and landmarks that you can hit, like the bricks in Camden. Yeah, right. And then they become memories and the painted 10 Williams seats. It's something weird about baseball that you just have these obstacles. It's a video game. Stan talked about always wanting to clear the bleachers at Dodger Stadium. He did it in the All-Star game.

39:49He grew up.

39:50Rob Lowe:Stan, yeah. He hit one, I think, when he was playing. would he play for Tampa Bay or the Marlins? I always forget. Where did Stanton come from? What was his Florida team? The Marlins. The Marlins, yeah. No, when he was playing the Marlins, it went onto the roof of Dodger Stadium. He's on the list of people who say, they say it's Willie Stargel, Mike Piazza, and Stanton. And before he's done, Shohei will hit it out of the stadium more than once. Before StatCast and the expected distances, that's what it was. It was the second deck or at old Yankee Stadium. If you hit it into the black seats in center field, that was a small list of people that did that.

40:31And a Spanish just kind of knew the landing mark. Now we have the math and the expected distances. It's not as fun as the, you know, romanticizing, like he hit it, he cleared the bullpen.

40:42Rob Lowe:Oh yeah, I don't even pay attention to, it's so funny you'd say this because I still don't pay attention to and frankly don't understand a lot of the new analytics. Like I still think about batting average, which no one gives a shit about anymore. Like I just, it just, I came up with it. It was like, he's a 300 hitter. He's over there, like 300 hitter was like, that was it. There was no other metric that anybody cared about. So, you know, all of the new metrics are hard for me to get down with, but they make more sense. Like, you know, having somebody's OPS makes a lot more sense really to judge somebody.

41:20I always, when we interviewed players, one of the questions I always ask, and we don't do that many anymore, but it was, what stat do you judge yourself on? And I thought it was very interesting because you don't get one answer. You know, some guys are going to say, oh, PS. Some guys would say on base, because if I'm getting on base, I'm doing everything else I want to do. And, you know, there's some players that just judge it on their slugging, which I don't like at all. I'm like, all right, get off my team. But some guys still said batting average. They still said, if my batting average is good, the rest of my game is coming along with it.

41:53You know, and but it was interesting that even the players, they value different things and they judge themselves on different numbers.

41:59Rob Lowe:I still love and because, again, we lost Pete Rose, who I had the opportunity to know pretty well over the years. And he was exactly who you think he is. I love people, celebrities, who are exactly who you think they are and they deliver on being Pete Rose. You know, I got to play golf last week with Phil Mickelson and Phil Mickelson is in the business of being Phil Mickelson, which I love. And I kind of model my own life in that way. It's like I know who I am and you're going to get me. But anyway, Pete used to say he had a lot of great quotes. he used to tell me, but the notion that you fail seven out of 10 times, you go to the hall of fame.

42:46It's a tough sport. You see why so many people just like lose it. Even at the youth age, it's so much failure to deal with in high school and middle school. And you get so, I mean, you get so despondent or just kind of like kicked down, but yeah, it's the pros have seen a lot of failure in their day, like a ton.

43:14Rob Lowe:Kelly Slater, the greatest surfer who ever lived. What part of the world am I catching you in today? Apparently you're in Hawaii or Cayman Islands or something. I'm in Hawaii. Oh, North Shore? I am, yeah, but it's not what you would imagine. It's been rainy and very windy and small surf for about five weeks now, maybe more, maybe six weeks. It's been a really bad season here for us, surf-wise. But yet the eddy was nuts, right? Yeah, ever since the eddy, we've had small swells. So we had the eddy iCow in mid-late January, and then it felt like that storm took all the energy out of the Pacific. And we've had a high pressure over us for about six weeks now, and it just made crazy wind and small swell.

44:00Rob Lowe:So the Eddie I-Cow, for those of you who don't know, is probably, I mean, there's so many great events in the world, and we'll talk about them, but that one is so fascinating because it only gets called when it's a triple X swell, right? Yeah, on average over the, I think the first one was in maybe around 1990 or 1988, somewhere around there. I think the first one was actually held at Sunset Beach in honor of Eddie, but then they realized, they came up with the idea that it was going to be just on the biggest day and best days at Waimea, where Eddie was a lifeguard and saved countless lives. And for people who don't know, Eddie disappeared in the Pacific Ocean when he was sailing from Oahu to Tahiti on the Hokulea.

44:45And it capsized in big choppy seas about 10, 12 miles south of Oahu. And they were drifting out of the shipping lanes and they were concerned that they wouldn't be found. And, you know, we didn't have phones and all that stuff back then. And so I guess a mayday went out, but they weren't sure whether they were going to be found. And Eddie decided to paddle back to Oahu on a surfboard that he had brought. And the captain made him put a light vest on, which Eddie was opposed to. He put it on and paddled off. And as he was paddling off, he took it off and it floated back by the boat is the story.

45:26But Eddie was never found. his brother Solomon was on a search chopper with a number of other people. I believe Ben Ipa, who was also a legend in the surf world, was also on that chopper. But there were a bunch of helicopters looking, and they spotted his surfboard, and they dropped down and saw the surfboard. But they weren't within direct range of radio signals, so they went up to a thousand or a couple thousand feet to make a call, and they went back down, and they couldn't find his surfboard. So Eddie was lost at sea. The crew was saved later that day, I believe, and everyone else lived. So it was a sad but sort of fitting end to a waterman that lived his life trying to save people.

46:10Rob Lowe:And you see the iconic bumper stickers and T-shirts that say, Eddie would go, which is probably one of the greatest phrases in sports. The term Eddie would go was taken from, I believe from Mark Fu, who passed away at Mavericks. I thought it was from Marvin Foster, but I think it was from Mark Fu, actually. And they were asking one day, when they were first going to run the Eddie Akao at Waimea, it was really big, and it was a giant day, maybe almost too big and messy for it. They were asking different competitors, what do you think? And he said, I'll go. Eddie would go. So, you know, and so it's always been this kind of call sign for everyone.

46:55If you're doubting yourself in big waves and you need a little bit of extra something, you just think Eddie would go and you're doing it for him and for, you know, everyone who loves big waves and big ocean.

47:16Rob Lowe:Julian Edelman joins us today. you're Kent State guy, right? The Kent State. Now, do you really, is it true? I love this story. Do you really wear your, did you wear your Kent State t-shirt underneath your pads all the time to remind you of like, yeah, I came from Kent State, not Alabama? Hell yeah. I mean, I used to wear this yellow, like dry fit shirt for probably like eight or nine years straight for every practice. And, yeah, I wanted to remind guys that, you know, like Popeye said, I am what I am. I didn't go to Alabama. I didn't go to USC. Went to Kent State, a school that, you know, doesn't invest a lot of money into the football program that, you know, you pretty much have a vending machine in the locker room, had a Division I program.

48:04And I'm still here with you, and I'm like, I'll let you know that.

48:08Rob Lowe:No, it's great. It's one of the great things about your story. I mean, everybody makes a big deal about overcoming adversity and things like that. But you, there would have been nothing. Well, that's not really true because people, you always had people seeing football skills in you. I mean, you had that offer to go play in Canada as a quarterback and you didn't do it. So it's not that it's a shocker to people. Clearly, people saw your ability. and yet at the same time it's also an amazing story that you were able to accomplish what you accomplished i mean it's been a hell of a ride i was trained at a young age and i i created a chip on my shoulder as a kid when i was always very undersized and you go into a you know in high school you go into a recruiting trip and no one gave you the attention because you weren't the biggest guy or the fastest guy i always thought i was best football player on the field whenever i I was on the field until I got to the league and he started playing with guys, you know, but before then, like I felt like I was the best football player on the field at all times.

49:16And, and that kind of have to prove it mentality from very young age. It helped me to keep that drive and that, you know, that hard assness, you know, all the way throughout my whole career. And a lot of that is building a story in your head and motivating yourself. You know what I mean? That's what I learned a lot from Brady. You know, he's always hold on to such a little thing that someone said in seventh grade, Norm, that, you know, he couldn't do, like, and he would still remember that because he would pull from that to hit that string to let himself not get complacent, to let himself to remind himself, like, yo, I was into the pigming.

50:07I was never the guy that were trying to put on a pedestal. They were trying to replace me at Michigan. I was a system guy. He pulls from that stuff, and I learned a lot about programming and to keep creating that chip. So I don't know.

50:25Rob Lowe:Do you think that is useful, combating the mental stuff that you need to break through and stay focused on or the physical because the other thing i think about is guys as they age just it's like oh my god another camp really you know like it's not for the faint of heart the older you get to to crush your body like that yeah i mean you gotta get smart you have to you have to i used to be a guy that would go in and run 70 routes a day work out, run, work my tail off, you know, and, you know, Brady would look at me and just say, won't you work smart or not? Amazing. Won't you all get quality reps is something that you need to work on.

51:11You know, and instead of getting quality reps just to get a rep in. Yeah. And you have to take that to heart and you're continually, the older you get, the harder it gets, you know, especially in, you know, in athletics because you have to do so much more to not get hurt to to keep your body prepared to recover to go out and perform and you know it does wear on you and that's ultimately why guys give the game up is because you can't go out and do it and in that grind of that daily grind it gets to you because you know when you were 22 you go out and it was easy you know you didn't have to stretch you can't do this you have to do the pre-hab you have to do the body work you know when you're 33 you're 34 and you have you do two hours of work before just to be able to go through work you know you know you do two hours after and then everything is calculated and you're trying to get every inch you possibly can and then when it starts to hit you and you turn on the building you don't look like what you used to look like or you start seeing some kind of efficiencies uh yeah so when you're like i can't i can't see myself like that so you gotta give it up well listen tom is the poster boy of

52:37Rob Lowe:that conversation it's like and probably this year more than ever because it didn't go the way he would have liked obviously and he went through so much adversity with his personal life at the same time in the public and it's it's just it's got to be an unbelievably tough there's so many openings for him i mean i don't know if you said right before i came in today i was going through my little internet scroll and there there he's he's walking through uh uh uh private schools in miami for the kids yeah and i'm like dude by the way if i'm two i'm never playing again i don't care i'm never taking another snap ever yeah but that's like that's like the last concussion bro was was a nut a nothing burger and you i don't need to tell you this you get the more concussions you get the easier you get concussed and that was a nothing burger it was like a clink yeah i mean that this is what he loves like if someone said you can't go you know you can't go out and do what But you know, you're acting.

53:44You know, it's on you. And, you know, this is ultimately is what is going to give him the life he wants. And he loves football. I'm going to appreciate that. Okay, well, let me ask you this. If you're the owners of the Miami Dolphins. That's different.

54:00Rob Lowe:Now there's liability. Hey, I don't want this kid. I don't want to take responsibility for it. If he wants to play, God bless him. But I'm going to take responsibility for it. Hey, Mr. Brady, we have great private schools in the Miami-Dade area. there's a lot of nice private schools out there and the weather's pretty good from one year two all year round except hurricane season but uh but here's the other one that i'm not breaking any news is i love the idea of the tom brady residency in uh las vegas that makes me laugh sore because it's exactly what it would feel like everybody has a residency why shouldn't have why shouldn't tom brady yeah his kids are in miami though it's tough he started getting older kids getting older you gotta be around him and his kids I remember when my kids were that age slipping away isn't the right thing but you can see the horizon and you can see time is super limited and I've always admired how dedicated he is to those kids it's one of the things that I think people love about Tom and that makes sense from the years I've been around And the guy loves football and his family.

55:11And, you know, he's a simple guy. You know, he likes to compete, loves to be with his family.

55:23Rob Lowe:There's Clayton Kershaw. Since you've only been in one place your whole career, you don't really have any perspective, really, of how good a clubhouse you guys have. Because you have nothing to compare it to. Yeah, yeah. Like, you've never been in the San Diego clubhouse. you know, you've, and I always think it's funny when I think about the Dodgers, if I have one and it's been disproven, obviously disproven, but there were times where I felt like we were missing for lack of a better term, a dick in the clubhouse because when Kirk Gibson came to the Dodgers, the Dodgers were nibbling around, nibbling around, nibbling around.

56:01Rob Lowe:And then in spring training, there was that famous incident where they put the shaving cream in Kirk's hat. Remember that? And he's like, are we here to screw around or are we here to win a championship? And everybody all of a sudden was like, oh, maybe there's something to that. But we've now, you guys have now done it with just camaraderie and love and like, there's never been like that kind of edge and you've managed to make it happen. Yeah. You know, I think I felt that too. Like I felt like, yeah, like we were the professional team and all these other teams were just like going to do anything they could to beat us.

56:38And we were just, we were just very professional and go about our business the right way and kind of do all that. But I think I underestimated it. I think it's been proven like how much of how much we all wanted to win just in general. Like, I think that supersedes pretty much everything because a lot of times in different clubhouses, there's different motivations. Right. And they're not bad. Like they're not bad. Like, Hey, I'm here because I want to provide for my family or, Hey, I'm here because I have a goal to stay in the big leagues, right? Hey, I'm here because I want to be an all-star or an MVP or Cy Young or whatever it is.

57:12Those are all not bad things in and of itself. But when it supersedes wanting to win over that, that's where you have a problem. And it's amazing how much like, how much Shohei wants to win every single day and how much, I think that's one of Freddie's best qualities is Freddie comes every day. Hey, we just need to win the game, you know, like winning today and everything else will take care of itself and so when it's like a uniform goal of like hey whatever anybody has to do to win this game today that takes that supersedes all like oh we gotta have edge or oh we gotta you know all that stuff like that is i think that's what made that clubhouse tick and you gotta give doc a lot of credit with that like doc instilled that in us like it doesn't matter what we did yesterday we just need to win the game today because i mean you remember september we were playing so bad.

58:02You're playing so bad.

58:04Rob Lowe:I have, I have the, the, the text to Andrew Friedman to prove them. I think the worst thing he ever did was give me his cell phone number. Yeah. Oh man. But yeah, I mean, it's true. And then doc had a meeting in Baltimore with us after, you know, Yama's no hitter that we've lost, ended up losing. And just like, guys, we're still in first place. It does not matter how bad we've played. We just have to play tomorrow and win tomorrow. And like, that's relaxing. That's like, okay, he's right. Like we can control tomorrow. And so we started doing that, started playing better. And, you know, sure enough, we ended up winning the whole thing.

58:42Rob Lowe:Now that you are done and you're thinking about all of the things that you maybe couldn't do because of the sketch. First of all, how insane is it going to be for you to wake up and go, wait a minute, I don't have to go to spring training. I'm so excited. It's going to be nuts. I'm so excited. To be fair, I haven't done spring training in a while. I've missed the last three. But yeah, I think it's going to be so great when December rolls around. And I need to pick up a baseball and see if my arm still works. I'm like, oh wait, no, I really don't. I don't have to do that anymore. I think just the freedom of that is really exciting.

59:21Don't get me wrong, I'm going to miss it like crazy. I think the hardest thing is probably going to be opening day and turning on the game. just like not being there. Like I haven't missed an opening day in, you know, 18 years. So it's good.

59:34Rob Lowe:Well, I don't think you'll miss this one because you got to come and get your ring. Second day. I'll be there for the second day. Ring day is second day. So, you know, Lon's not stupid. You know, we're going to have a sellout for opening day. So ring day, second day. Yeah, Lon knows what he's doing. He's unbelievable. I didn't get to go to the parade I was shooting and my sons all went and they were telling me it was packed. I go, it was packed just for that. And I go, well, it must have been free. They go, no, no, they charge. I said, Lon Rosen, unbelievable. He is, man. He is. We've got to give him credit.

1:00:06Like the Dodgers blow everybody away. And like marketing revenue, advertising. I mean, the whole Japan sponsorships is just incredible. So Lon's good at what he does.

1:00:20Rob Lowe:He is. We go way back. We go way back to the. And how about you sit there like you got magic. You have Peter Guber. I mean, people don't really realize the people. I mean, obviously Mark Walter and Todd Boley are the guys. But the other people in the ownership group, the amount of knowledge and success. My favorite thing, and I'm going to have Peter on the podcast, Peter Guber. When he bought the Golden State Warriors, I think he bought it for like$480 million. And it's worth$8 billion. That's the thing about teams. They just, like, if you can, it's just amazing. And Peter's incredible, isn't he?

1:01:01Just like, you want to talk about like a Swiss army knife of talents. Like that guy has done everything.

1:01:07Rob Lowe:And his quotes, I was working on some big deal and I was talking to him about it. And he goes, listen, if you're going to share any of this, only share it with an odd number of people, preferably below three.

1:01:24Rob Lowe:it's just one it's one thing yeah one thing after another i was like talking about going out and gathering information because remember don't be a fisherman be a catcherman i don't know how people have these quotes like on roll like you know how you know people just have like those great quotes for every little thing it's a that's another like this life skill just to have all that up there. I don't have that. It's super fun. Quotable people are my favorite. Yes, it's so good. So good.

1:02:04You've been listening to Literally with Rob Lowe, produced by me, Sean Doherty, with help from associate producer, Sean Calvano. Research by Jeff Fox. Engineering and mixing by Joanna Samuel. Our executive producers are Rob Lowe for Low Profile and Nick Liao, Adam Sachs, and Jeff Ross for Team Coco. Booking by Catherine Cook. Music by Devin Bryant. Special thanks to Hidden City Studios. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on Literally.

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