Special Mother’s Day Episode Featuring Sam Hymes, Bob Saget!

18:51Shelley:But what do you miss from your childhood, do you think?

18:57Everything was just simple. I mean, the simplicity of things, which is great. um you know we all went to school to go all the time said the same we all had the same interest at the time we had like limited channels so we all were talking about the same things angie you never had limited channels no i mean but like we're all watching the same show yeah like our worlds our minds were smaller yeah yeah like more tunnel vision yeah now which is great at the time i remember like some friends i still talk to today um yeah it was just so funny like we were all just a crazy group group of kids and all any friend group i was in we all just like incredibly rambunctious I mean, I can imagine, like, when we had sleepovers, the stuff we would, like, do with each other.

19:32It's funny. Like, we thought we were so cool, but you're like, these kids are just, like, ridiculous.

19:36Shelley:Well, you played a lot of games. We played a lot of games. Video games. Video games. You know, all were into Mario Kart, like, crazy amount. Now, people are so into that now. I know. And the movie is like that. We would have been first in line for the movies. Oh, my gosh. We would have, like, the schools would have had to take a field trip to see the movie. Yes, that way we all would have done that. No, people dress up to see the movie. They do? Oh, my gosh, yeah. Sam had a uniform, so I'm just having this big visual of you with khaki pants and some navy shirt. Yeah. Hopefully socks. No, I have my marils.

20:09The marils without socks. Oh, your marils, of course.

20:12Shelley:Also, you had, you know, I was on a plane recently, and there was a guy that had those awesome pumas that I got you for your bar mitzvah. Oh, yeah. And he had them on. I was like, oh, my God, I haven't seen them in so long. I love that, yeah. Yeah. People still talk about the Bar Mitzvah, by the way. Really? You know, Linda Willard suggested—hello, Linda. Linda suggested that I get H, who owns the Mansion on O, on the podcast, which I think is an awesome idea. Oh, that would be excellent. We should do it at the Mansion on O. Of course. Can I come to that? Of course. So, like, one thing is, like, at Georgetown, one of the programs at Georgetown, they had their, like, what's it called?

20:48Their gala at the Mansion on O Street. When? This was years ago. This was, like, my first year at grad school. This had to be 2022 during COVID. Like, one of the programs had, they're there. And I'm like, hey, if you guys need advice, let me know. Because, like, there's lots of cool things there. And I was like, I had my bar mitzvah there. I had to be the most Jewish person here. That was the most awesome bar mitzvah. But I was like, yeah, my most, I had, like, no things there. It was great. It was a great time. People still talk about it today. Like, there's a guy I ran into, like, I haven't seen him since I was, like, elementary school.

21:13And he's like, hey, or now middle school. And he's like, yeah, your bar mitzvah is sick. Really? Yeah, and we still talk about it, yeah.

21:18Shelley:Well, what was the best was your sleepover. No, it's just like, I think all of it was the best. I mean, the whole thing was great. All of it was the best. Sam had the sleepover, and there were all these rooms that were connected through secret doorways and everything. It was amazing. Yeah, like there were mirrored doors. It was amazing. So the reason why I'm asking you this is, A, because it was a question, And B, because I'm wondering, I'm really, really thinking a lot about your generation. And probably, Karan, it's maybe your generation more than Sam's. Like, are you X? I don't even know. Do you know what generation you are?

22:00Shelley:Somewhere, like Gen Z, Cusper? I don't know. Well, anyway, I've been thinking a lot about your generation. And I've been thinking a lot about social media. So here's sort of another two-part question. what do you think the difference between your experience with social media when you were in middle school or grade school and what someone like Regan Mulvihill, shout out to Regan Mulvihill, is experiencing now in middle school and about to be high school? How do you think social media has changed for you at that age and then now for Regan at this age? I mean, we all didn't think about the long-term effects about it, meaning that, like, posts that we had when we first got Facebook, we just were like, oh, it's just a post, nothing to think about.

22:48Right. But now it's like people can find anything on the Internet. We didn't realize that. I mean, a lot of people have dealt with that, especially with some funny things. I remember I was in this bio group chat, biology group chat in college for my biology class, and we were a bunch of guys who, like, knew each other, and, like, there were, like, ten of us, and then we were just one day just going through, we were bored of a lecture. We just decided to put each other through Facebook or Instagram pages of, like, old pictures, and we all just put like we're spamming this chat of just like old pictures we saw like when they're in sixth grade and like ridiculous pictures that they had and we were like 20 or 21 at the time so like eight seven eight years later from right so it's just funny stuff but like yeah people can still do that like funny pictures of like people just being ridiculous think they're so cool or think they're so tough it's like a 12 year old it's like not but i mean what do you think reagan is experiencing now there's more education around i think there's more stuff education around

23:37Shelley:I think it's worse. Well, no, no, no. I'm actually going to cut to the chase. You can play, too. Not education in the sense of, like, but, like, they understand what to say and what to give guys about. Because when we had social media, everyone kind of had Facebook for the first time around the same time, whether it be teachers, adults, professors. Like, you had a Facebook, like, maybe a year or two before I did. No. Really? Yeah. I feel like I was after you. No, you were definitely before me. Oh, okay. And I had it when I was 14. Okay. So you were a little bit ahead of me. But it wasn't like there weren't, like, these parents, like, don't let the kids on social media.

24:06Shelley:Oh, there was. There was. I don't remember that. Because there were some parents that were like, oh, colleges look at your accounts when you're like 14. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All of us were terrified. And at the time in the high school. And you actually got in trouble once. Me? Well, for a social media post, that wasn't your fault. You were just around. Oh, no. That had nothing to do with me. I know. That was a kid. But you still got in the picture. No, I'm not getting in trouble. I'm not getting in trouble. We thought you were going to. No, we're not. In any event. Our dean of school. We got a call on Saturday.

24:34Are you going to really tell this story? I don't want to tell you. I wasn't going to bring this up.

24:36Shelley:Well, I'm not going to tell the story. I'm just insinuating that. This is a family-friendly podcast. I totally forgot about it. Well, anyway. I have to change that. I'm going to ask if it's family-friendly on YouTube. I'm just going to say no. Well, you're not even going to do YouTube. Karan is going to do YouTube, so you don't have to worry about it. But Ainge, so are you saying then that you think that there's more education and understanding around the darker side of social media now than there was when you were a kid? Well, it's not just the darker side, but I think it's also what I envy about the kids nowadays.

25:19We're around the area of YouTube where a lot of times if I don't know how to do something, I'll just go to YouTube to see how I can do it, whether it be if I want to build something or I really want to understand and do something better for a work project I'm doing, whether it be using Excel or trying to do some mundane things like that or even more exciting things like I want to hang things in my house or decorate something better to see all these different visual examples where I'm a visual person. And for the kids to see that and have, like, different perspectives of people who are, like, not only from the D.C.

25:47area, but, like, people from, like, California, international, but to have more of an understanding about how to even do soccer moves, how to even learn how to be a better sport athlete. Even though we had a basketball who better how, I can do better moves and watch a video on that. So that's really cool. Right. And so that's stuff like that. But I think it's also just, like, the stuff that students do nowadays is, like, they're trying to be adults too early. I think we were trying to do that at the same age. We all wanted to be adults very early on, but now they're really acting like adults. Now they teach their teachers like they're their friends and colleagues.

26:17Really? I never did that. You taught me, yes, sir, yes, ma 'am. I've very be played about that. I never really got in trouble in school.

26:26Shelley:That's true. I was a decent kid. I would talk in class. I think the worst thing I did, but that's not terrible. Yeah. I definitely would just remember that from me. I talked with my friends. What do you think, Garopp? Or my handwriting. Oh, yeah. And your messy locker like me. No, I never had a locker. You did? No. I mean, we theoretically had one. Well, in grade school. No, we never. I had a normal locker. All right. Well, I'm editing this. I think you had a messy locker. In terms of social media, I do think that the importance of a digital footprint has been anchored in in the last few years.

27:02excuse me, in terms of like, you shouldn't post this or be wary of certain things. Because like Sam said, the internet, you can find anything from 20 years ago. And it's like, Oh, this is questionable. So you have colleges looking at, you know, potential athletes or full scholar, scholarship applicants, that that could be the contingency that you don't have any college money because of something stupid you posted. So growing up, I know when I was in middle school, All the kids were on Facebook. However, there was a big scandal in the school because the school itself banned the kids from social media.

27:38So I got in trouble. My friends got in trouble. They were pulling our stuff, our videos, our YouTube videos in the school. I was like, oh, my goodness. Wow. But it gave us a good foundation for the future of social media.

27:50Shelley:Well, you guys are not answering me the way I thought you would. Because I think it's much harder for Regan at 13 than it was for you at 13. And I'm looking at you. I think it's more like... I mean, it's so pervasive. And there's so much more. And there's so much... I think you have to be perfect. You have to be on trend. You have to... I don't know. All the pressure. Social media isn't what it used to be when I was in middle school. It used to be fun. You could post, cheers. Cheers. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers, love bug. Cheers. Jerry cheers we have to cheers Quran oh wait it's on the thing cheers but um yeah I think kids now have a different social media than what I had when I was 13 you could have fun you could post like a meal and no one's you know scrutinizing you but now it's like okay is this photogenic is this picture perfect oh my goodness there was something in the background let me edit it AI And, you know, everything does have to be perfect.

28:55So I don't know. Social media isn't necessarily fun anymore. So I was expecting you to say, oh, it's worse now.

29:02Shelley:And I'm happy that I'm... I think it's more fun. You think it's more fun? I mean, I'm having fun. You really do. No, I'm saying for Regan. You think it's more fun for her at 13 than it was for you. Well, it depends on how you're using it. But I think it's also like we all didn't know what we were doing when we were 12. Like, I think my friends would tag me in, like, a Bob Saget picture. And we all thought that was hilarious. Oh, God, I forgot about that. And that was hilarious at the time. But then someone, I remember like I had friends, like, you know, family friends. I was like, why are you tagged with Bob Saget contact?

29:28Shelley:Well, for an entire year, if not longer. This was genius. It was. Every time Sam wanted to curse but couldn't curse, he would say, Bob Saget. And it was so funny. And we actually got his. A hoodie. The best thing was, I went to a uniform. I went to a uniform middle school. and you had to wear like a hoodie that was just like navy or white. And I went to this kiosk in the Montgomery Mall and we had a lone picture of Bob Saget on the front and on the back it said you just got Sageted. We don't know what the heck that means, but I didn't get in trouble. It's provocative, it doesn't make any sense.

30:06But it was like no one can get me in trouble with that and I would remember going to teachers.

30:09Shelley:That is so funny. Here's my cranky older person question though. What? Like why do you think that your generation or maybe Iran Iran's generation is so Well cutting to the chase anti-semitic anti everything and for me yes, and for me I blame Social media or in part social media because I think there are a lot of messages getting through that, well, there's a lot of misinformation on social media or just a lot of, I don't know, pressure? Yeah. So anyway. Well, think about this. People my age right now, a lot of people don't have cable. They don't really watch TV. But you get your information really quickly on TikTok.

30:59I remember when I was in college, I didn't have TV until my senior year because one of the person, people in my apartment just paid for it all. And we're like, great, thank you.

31:08Shelley:You had a TV always. No, no, cable. oh um so i remember i'd watch like snapchat news if i had like a longer busy day i'd watch like news on snapchat like a 60 second rundown on what i need to know that day and i'm like okay and if it's ever top i want to learn more about i just google it later but if it's something that interests me um at the time but yeah and so i think it's just tiktok really does your job summarizing information or like you know the news growing up i mean you have to watch the whole segment to see what you want to hear right so and now people are now their own journalists a lot of independent journalists um one person in my building right now is an independent journalist who goes on Capitol Hill and just speaks to reporters as they're walking through the Capitol Hill.

31:44Shelley:What does he say? You just ask them questions on the Hill to see if they get a response on their own Instagram or social media or X page or whatever to see if they can get it from them instead of a giant news Capitol such as Fox, NBC, any other. So he's talking to reporters, not members? No, members. Oh, he's trying to talk to members too? Getting them to get on his source instead of other people. Yeah. Well, that's entrepreneurial. But what do you think that hatred is coming from, or the vitriol? Like, there's a lot of anti-stop. Anti-Semitism, it's just more about... Well, anti-Semitism, anti...

32:24Shelley:I mean, one could argue anti-American. Yeah, I think it's just more about people, you know, they say they hate the country, but they don't want to leave. and that's the point that, you know, I think we all, people can also, they also can put their own platforms on what they want to hear now, whether it be on Instagram or social media, they can go to like a page of people that find, they want to hear what their like-minded opinion, so instead of hearing other opinions. And also people can edit out different clips too, so they don't hear a full story, so hard to get fake. I remember fake news was something that we were kind of just brought into remember like in our library class at elementary school, we can kind of see what's a reliable source and what isn't a reliable source.

33:00Shelley:What class did you take that? This was elementary. This was our library. Really? We were learning about how to use a library, how to find the right books. But yeah, I remember in college, for me, even though if I use the sources, the professor just has to like the opinion or not. And that's what I remember. It was really harsh for me, which is kind of like, you can't really choose your opinion. I think I wrote a lot of stuff that I think was important, but they were like, no, this stuff is wrong, even though it has FBI statistics or presidential statistics. What I'm talking about is more about, I think I told you, so I believe that America's Most Wanted should be taxpayer-funded.

33:33That show, I'm very interested. It's something great.

33:35Shelley:Well, and the most exciting thing, Sam does love that show, and eventually Sam should be a criminologist. But the most exciting thing was he always watches America's Most Wanted, but one year, there was a guy from my hometown. That's exactly what I wrote about. I wrote about this. Tell the whole story. So I've always said Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania is like the greatest place. If you're a criminal, it's the perfect place to hide. No one will ever find you. The town is not modern at all. Like even like the local Arby's still needs to get, at the time, still needs to get the modern logo on there.

34:09Yeah, right. And everything else. But when I wrote this paper, that's what I was thinking about. It's like, there's a guy who was caught minutes away from where like my grandparents have lived. And, you know, they all live in the same area. And my grandparents had no idea about this issue or the crime. They're finding it from me who was, I think I was 14 or 15 years old and I knew about this. And I'm in D.C.

34:26Shelley:You were pumped. And I wasn't pumped. I was scared. No. Didn't we go to Wilkes-Barre once and he was still on the loose? No. I mean, they found him on the dike. They found him 48 hours after the episode aired, but we weren't there at all. But they found him close to our house. It was very close. There was a sighting on the dike, I think. Well, they found him. I mean, he probably went on the dike because he lived near the dike. Yeah, that's where my grandparents were near where they lived. But the whole point of the paper I wrote about it is because I think it's like the show did a great job of catching criminals.

34:55And I wrote about how it's an FBS thing. and the professor I had did not like the paper at all and gave me a bad grade about it because it scared him. Even though it's something that happens for both sides and be better for both sides. But that show still saves lives and helps to solve criminals better than anything else.

35:10Shelley:That is an excellent, excellent description of the show and it is a good example of, I guess, positive media, would you say? I don't know. How is your chicken, by the way? It's great. How is your pizza? It's delicious. And it came out smoking hot, so it's really good. Oh, he took away your soup? It's okay. I told him to. I was ready for the pizza. But yeah, I think that show, all that other stuff is really important. And I remember just being into it. I'm like, yeah. But that's the... No. And why don't you talk about your love of SVU? I do. Which I used to call SUV for the longest time. SUV what?

35:49Shelley:SUV. Remember, I would get very confused. Very confused. Well, what does SBU stand for? SBU Special Victims Unit. Yeah, there we go. If we have if or when we get another dog, Sam and I want to name it Prudence Benson. Prudence, because that's an awesome name, and Benson after Olivia. So together with Jerry, it would be PB &J, more important. And it's adorable. That would make it even more adorable. Right, Jerry? Jerry's passed out. Jerry's like, what? Hello, baby. That chicken was great. Thank you so much, Mom. You're most welcome. Would you like to have any of your lettuce? No. So anyway, anything else about SVU?

36:37It's a dream show to be on. I love it. It's my favorite show. I watch it. I remember in college, that was the only show I think I kept up with while I was in college. I had a Hulu account just for that show.

36:49Shelley:Angie, what are you looking forward to most for the summer? I'm A250. I mean, you know, it's a lot of stuff that happened, especially with what I'm talking about with, like, the World Cup. It's like we don't know a lot about it. We act like we're a country that knows all about soccer, but we really haven't known because we haven't hosted a mega global sporting event since 2002. So it's kind of a new experience for us all. And, I mean, I don't know what you remember about when 1975, when, you know, that was a big time. But this is going to be a really big year. Right? Yeah. Well, so that's great.

37:15Shelley:Great, so you're looking, because I was actually talking to a bunch of people yesterday, and I can't decide if we should stay in town for the 4th or not. You're definitely in town for the 4th. Well, I mean, um. Because it's going to be madness. That's what I was thinking about, too. It's just like, depending on what I want to do, if I have other plans, I don't know. But it's just like, full job at least to do in Philly, that was fun. But it's just like, everyone's like, D.C., where you got to be. It's just offensive. Right. Take it to the White House, you go. Also, the USC event that's going to happen.

37:42Shelley:Oh, yeah, you might get invited to a lot of really cool stuff. I mean, the reason I would go there is because I don't see that ever happening again. I know. So I think that's literally the once in an ever thing going to happen. What you see in what's happening today is going to be in history books tomorrow for the future kids. Yeah, yeah. If I can't tell my kids, I got invited. I didn't go. Well, you should get like a coloring book. We should get a bunch of, well, they have coloring books. No, for America 250, like to give to your kids. Like there's going to be, there's so much America 250 stuff.

38:13They're going to be like genetic handwriting.

38:15Shelley:You're not going to want to color. You don't know. You could have a girl who likes to color. But you've seen my artwork. I know, Sam. You've seen my work, too. You put my stuff in the basement. It's right next to the furnace. First of all, that's so not Drew. His stuff is all over the place. As a paperweight. There's a lot of stuff. I mean, I can't put everything. I'm not asking you to put everything. I mean, I really have that type of family that's like put it on the... I was never fridge material, but... Your big poster that one time, the poster that we did about... your scientific experiment about how fast you run with or without pasta.

38:48No, that was the worst. That's a nice place to say. That was the worst experience. And I was like, that was just so bad. But somehow I organized it. The reason I got paid. Mom, mom, you got to drive me to Ores, man. We got to go run. Two days before we started it. That's not true.

39:03Shelley:We started it a week before. Oh, great. And I was like, what's the better pregame meal? And it was pasta. It was. An energy bar? An energy bar. Or donuts. No, donuts. No, there was an option of nothing, wasn't there? The third one was donuts. It was Mother's Day. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why. And it's just looking back, my friends would come over and be like, what the heck? Like, how did you get a grade on this? And I'm like. And remember, I had to take your picture and we've charted it. No, no, no. It's in my basement. That's where my friends would hang out. And it's just so funny. And I'm just like, I can't even defend it.

39:33They would all like laugh at seeing like my hypothesis and like how I tried to make it so serious. And it was just so. even worse when I had to explain it in class I couldn't even do it because my friends thought it was too funny

39:43Shelley:what is one of your favorite trips that we've ever taken what comes to mind for this? meet Italy yeah I hope that one day when you were a ring bearer that was one of your favorite trips I had a ring bearer book that was just the funniest book of all time again shout out to the Malva Hills I love that that was fun And after that, I don't think I got invited back to another wedding. I know. You were fired for being a ring bearer. I don't know. There's still time, honey. There's still time. Yeah, I hope so. I don't want to. You know what to do. I guess not. I need to watch the YouTube video. But yeah, that would be fun.

40:26What else? I mean, all the Florida trips. I mean, I still don't think we ever had anything happen in Boca. I don't know why, but that escapes my memory. Boca. I know.

40:33Shelley:That's so awful. It's so awful. I remember apparently Poppy's doing the pool. and then I was born and then he stopped going to the place. Well, what are your favorite memories of Mum, Mum, and Poppy? Or any favorite memory? I mean, the one thing, I mean, you talk about growing up, I think, you know, for me, I think how intimidating Wilkes-Barre could be from like a, I'm a city, I love being a city, I've always known, I've always wanted to live in a city. Sam is incredibly urban. You know, I've gone to like, lived in, you know, D.C., Philadelphia, New York, and Boston and it's just having those cities think that's like, I definitely don't want to live in the suburbs.

41:07Right. And so just going to Wilkes-Barre, it's like, I remember one year I had an exam I was super nervous about. And I was like, tell my friends, like, what are you going to do in Wilkes-Barre? And I'm like, there's a gas station I walked to. And yeah.

41:20Shelley:But you said Wilkes-Barre was intimidating? I mean, not intimidating, but it's just like, it's a culture shock in a way. Yeah. More about a culture shock is better than I say. But that's where I grew up. I know, exactly. But it's like, you're from there. And then it's like, what do you do in the town? I'm like, well, there's a gas station I walked to. I'll get a soda pop in. You go hanging with your friends. Rain trestle. No, I'm saying when I grew up. Yeah. But now for us, when we were in high school, we had all these things to do. And we had Tendly Town, Bethesda Row. Yeah, it's crazy. Some of my friends are living on Bethesda now.

41:47Shelley:No, but Wilkes-Barre is so relaxing. For me, yeah. And I think one thing I do miss a lot is the dinner, the holiday dinner that Mom and Poppy would do. And I had no plan. I had nothing to do with it. But they took all the stress away. And I'm just like there and having fun, playing my PSP for sure. Well, you and I also used to get fun gifts for everybody. Oh, the ducks. I'd be so excited. The Ducks. I mean, there's a bunch of memories. I remember, you know, I think one funny one, we were in New York when Poppy took me on a submarine, fell asleep, and I'm just like four years old. He's like, he's fine.

42:18Shelley:The world's my oyster. You were in four. You were closer to like nine. No, I was not nine. You were. Now I don't think I'm ever going to go on a submarine again, but like. It wasn't a submarine. It was a huge ship. I'm not going on a submarine. Yeah. Because of what's happened recently. But we did do a submarine once. during one of the holidays we weren't in Boca, in between Boca and Palm Beach. We took some weird cruise, and we were all in a sub, all the cousins. Oh, the Disney cruise? Yeah. Or no, Royal Ribbon. Royal Ribbon. I still have that logo. I used to bring that around because I felt like I was so cool because I had my own silverware I could put in there.

42:50Yeah, yeah. I felt very professional.

42:52Shelley:Oh, we have some shot glasses you could take back if you want to come back to the house with me. Yeah, yeah. Nina and I grabbed those. What are some favorite memories? But also, going to the, oh, sorry. Go ahead. Even like while Wolfsburg going to have their game, like the special cereal I used to love with Marilyn and Mary. They gave me like Lucky Charms, Fruit Loops and everything else. And the best was that they would hide it. They wouldn't. Marilyn would always be like, Sam, I got you what you wanted. Just don't show your mama. And then she would give it. Oh, I'm going to put it in the back.

43:21Shelley:Yeah. And then I had like my mouth and face of like marshmallows and stuff. Oh, my God. And people, there were women that worked at our house that had been, had been at the time with my parents, like 40 or 50 years, the nicest people in the world. And Sam would eat cereal and they'd look at him and say, you're so handsome. Aw. You're so smart. Really pouring it so hard. Look at the way you're eating your cereal so nicely. You're so wonderful. And Sam would just be like. No, Mom, you're mine. Thank you. Mom. Thank you so much. I was using my hand. Stop it. I definitely wasn't using this. The one thing I love about Jerry and, so we've had a dog walker since the Yellow Pages.

44:05The Yellow Pages.

44:06Shelley:It's true. She's been with us for 26 years. Yeah, and so we've had, like, Jerry's up there. The same dog walker. Her name is Mary. Shout out Mary. It's her birthday next week. Oh, I got to reach out. Thank you for flagging that. But, yeah, so we've had three dogs, and she walks, like, over 100 dogs a week, probably, in her Rolodex of dogs. and our dog is repeatedly continuing to be our screensaver every single time. And she'll come on extra trips for Jerry. And then every time my mom walks Jerry, Jerry can have her, has her scent. He's softwares when he deadweights and he's like, my mom, then you have to call Mary.

44:38Shelley:I have a complex. And I know that Jerry loves me very much. I truly feel comfortable in that knowledge. But when he sees Mary, it's his pack. It's very, I know, darling, you've had enough. It's very animalistic. But, like, I love this year where Cassie had, like, an episode where she, unfortunately, had, like, a little bit of bleeding going on. And Jerry was, like, didn't care. And he's like, hey, Mary, I'm here. Put your attention to me. And then, like, you know, I gave him, like, a T-R-E-A-T. I can't say the word because he's right here. But he would not even care about the whole thing. And he was, like, looking, waiting for Mary's attention.

45:13Shelley:I know. Well, they have issues. All right. So I have a final question for you. Or do you want to ask me any questions? No, you got this. Okay. It's going to be impossible for you to answer. Yeah. If you could have lunch anywhere in the world, where would it be and what would you be eating? I think we talked about this, but I think either the Joe's or... No, that's favorite restaurant in D.C., but anywhere in the world. Steak and calamari. Where would it be? Wherever they have good steak or calamari together. I mean, that... Where's the calamari? I think, yeah. Is it Joe's or... Well, Joe's. and you've had it at Milano.

45:53Milano.

45:55Shelley:The Palm. What's the restaurant back home in Wolfsburg? Oh, Perugino's. Perugino's. So Perugino's had this like 40-ounce steak and for whatever reason, I was in high school. Oh my God, that was obscene. What I loved is Poppy and I, Poppy would take me there every time. Or Cafe Baloo. Cafe Baloo is great. So Perugino's, Poppy and Mom used to love watching me eat. Well, Poppy would take you also to Cafe Baloo. What about a meal at Cafe Baloo? You would have French fries and what? Oh, the French fries at Baloo. It doesn't matter. And steak. Oh, you'd have steak. The hot dogs there when I first moved there.

46:24That's great.

46:25Shelley:But also steak. Yeah. Remember we had the contest of everybody was watching what you ate one year. And Poppy and Danny won because they chose ice cream and Diet Coke. Diet Coke and steak, for sure. No, I think someone said ice cream. I eat like Diet Coke and steak. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. I eat the same food, and if you get the same food, people know what you want, and it makes life easier. I get the same food. All right, so, Ainge, what's your answer? What? If you could eat anywhere in the world, where would you be, and what would you be eating? We can talk about this. No, but you gave, like, a thousand answers.

47:06Shelley:What's your answer? I'd say Joe's. Okay. And what would you be eating? Steak and calamari. Okay. And who would you be with? You. Yay. All right, Ainge. Well, you have no further questions for me? No. You said you had some. Oh, I had a good time? Yeah, I'd love to ask you a question. Yeah, of course. All right. What's been your favorite aspect about seeing me back in D.C.? Ooh. Literally seeing you. Why? Knowing that you're like 20 to 30 minutes away. And also, so I'm going to give you multi-pronged answers. Knowing, seeing you, knowing that I can see you, and going to events together. I think that's been a really fun thing that now you're an adult.

47:52Yeah, and the funny thing is we still have to yet to run into each other at, like, an event. Like, without telling each other. Oh, literally run into each other?

47:58Shelley:Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be funny. What's been your favorite event we've gone to together? The U.S. Open. The U.S. Open. That was a good one. Do you think we can go back? Yes. Awesome. Do you think we can stay at the Harvard Club? Yeah, that would be great. I'd love to. They just have to book it because I'm assuming it's going to be very packed. Well, yeah, but we have to figure out when we're going for sure. Absolutely. Bye. Okay. Yeah, but you should look. If you see the Harvard Club, it's really cool. It's really nice. I've been on the same street because it's on the same street as the Yale Club and the Yacht Club.

48:25If you see the interior about it, what they have, you'd love it, too.

48:28Shelley:All right. Well, let's make that happen. What else, Angie? Want to play tennis this weekend? Yes. All right. That was it. That was it. I'm like, what am I doing this weekend? But the answer is yes. Let's do it. Okay. Well, Sam, thank you so much for being on the podcast. No, thank you for having me. And for being on for your third Mother's Day episode. You are the one that made me a mom. And so I am forever grateful to you. I love you so much. I'm so proud of you. And I'm glad you liked your meal. Thanks to Claudio's Table for having us. Thanks to Karan for doing such an expert job as always. I hope you guys liked this episode.

49:13Shelley:call your son or your daughter or anybody you love and give them a hug because you've listened to this check out other episodes at www.lunchwithshelly.com or wherever you get your favorite podcasts and in the meantime and as always peace, love, and lunch oh, and thank you Jerry thank you Jerry the most perfect good boy in the world

49:43Thank you.