Ep 584 - The Buzz Man (feat. Marcus King)

0:00Shane Gillis:The Wild Wild West. Hey, welcome everybody. Marcus King, what's going on? What's up? You're just telling me about the Big Mighty Band. Yeah, we got the whole crew coming down. For tomorrow? Yeah. That's awesome. This should be out tomorrow, actually. Yeah, it's the non-cost-effective group. Yeah. Yeah. The wall of sound. Got the horns, BGVs, strings. Thanks, you gotta move every... So you just fly every single person down for a show? I never really thought about that. Yeah, I think the strings and the BGVs are local. Cool. but uh my fiddle player is coming down from nashville and my horns are flying in that's awesome it's gonna be fun it's gotta feel powerful to know you have a bunch of like what do they call trump not trump what is a horn player called like a hornist or like a horniest yeah what do they call it i guess a trumpeteer we just call them horn players there you go my bad showing my fucking ass already a saxophonist my thing is knowing if i knew I was like moving brass players through the sky, I would feel pretty powerful about that.

0:59Shane Gillis:You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a nice feeling. It's awesome. Alright, well I thought it was cool. It is a nice feeling. No, that's awesome, dude. I'm fucking stoked for you. You just released the album, Darling Blue. Yeah, the album's out. I was blasting in my house. Good, thanks. Yeah, it's awesome, dude. Fucking rips. You might be one of the biggest Axemen currently right now. man who i mean who else can shred like you i'm sure there's plenty true that's true there's a lot of but you know i mean i guess yeah there's a lot of quiet guys just kind of noodling in their room just like myself but dude billy you you you and billy are fucking uh billy's really playing some some wild stuff yeah billy's been studying like almost like classical yeah style with his scientologist uh teacher yeah billy takes guitar lessons and yeah there it's he studies from a Scientologist who kind of like just peppers in a little Scientology every now and again on him.

1:56Shane Gillis:I mean, that's the way to do it. Like, Chick Corea was a Scientologist. Really? And my keyboard player was like a big Chick Corea fan. When he went to go see him, you know, he said he hit him with a little, just a little dab, just a little dab of Scientology at the end there. I'm so scared. Thank you, Elron. I'm so scared of Scientology. Yeah, it freaks me out. Yeah, I feel like the better you do in this industry like it's it's kind of looming scientology it's around the corner yeah dude it'd be i don't know the only thing i would like about it is just kind of making my wife do it with me yeah it'd be kind of fun just like no we're scientists she's like willing to go to church now and i could just completely dash her christian dreams with new world satanism so that would be that would be pretty nice dude like what if instead of all this being nice stuff we just became as successful as possible and forgot all this shit i mean i should do that actually make her read fucking science fiction from the 1950s yeah this is what we're into now true get both my daughters clear dude yeah dude we're going clear um have you do you know any people have have you ever been approached with the s or no no i've been asked about some other weird shit like what i've just been invited to like uh like get togethers like out in the redwoods i'm like i'm cool what's a get what do you mean i could get like a like a naked you know kenny loggins allegedly played live from the redwoods to like a naked crowd to a naked crowd it could just be folklore but that's what i've heard we call it uh kenny loggins on the road like me and my keyboard player, like, you know, when you're on the road, like food is, it's always kind of sporadic what you're putting in your body.

3:44And like, if you're drinking a lot too. So like, if we're having like solid dumps, we'll call it, we call those Kenny Loggins. But if you, if you're not, then it's called the Messina. So you're either Loggins or Messina on any given day.

3:59Shane Gillis:but yeah my i i can fly for one day and eat one meal if as soon as i hit the road instant diarrhea it's every time instant diarrhea my ass is a mess i have baby wipes in my school bag that i always forget about yeah and i get home and i like go to i always i get the check from the comedy club i give it to my wife and every time i open up for the check i go fuck i had baby wipes this whole time right could have used those but tour bus must be crazy just a bunch of bros bunch of bros it starts smelling about two days in it's a it's a weird combo of smells and you can never really track it down to one person so it's hard to go to somebody and be like hey man you know your hygiene's a problem yeah because there's 12 bunks so oh it's like 12 combinations of odor she's got to walk by each one and kind of well it's just kind of the whole collective have you ever confronted somebody for their hygiene on the bus i have how does that go i usually do it in a more of a passive way.

4:56I had a keyboard player one time I just bought deodorant for. I was just like, hey man, I got you this. You just kind of, you know, lightly approach it.

5:06Shane Gillis:Yeah. That's how, yeah, you handled the keyboard player like a teenage daughter, kind of. Yeah. So I got you some deodorant. Yeah. It's still beautiful, but you might want to try this. It's starting to funk. That's kind of tight. So good, so good, so good. New summer arrivals are at Nordstrom Rack Stores now. Get ready to save big with up to 60 % off brands like Rag & Bone, Levi's, Adidas, and Free People. Join the Nordi Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack.

5:49Shane Gillis:So how's this run been versus other runs in terms of the tour? Do you ever get back to a city and just realize maybe how much you've grown as a person since the last time you've been to a place? Man, yeah. This tour has been especially like that. We can really feel it. This half of the year has been mostly like we were talking about, like our B markets, like tertiary markets, to use an industry term. Tertiary is nice. I've heard that one. Tertiary markets. Tertiary is B minus? I guess. Tertiary is so nice. Yeah, Marcus, we're going to put you on. We're going to be doing mostly tertiary markets.

6:25So, you know, it's not going to be cost effective for us to do it this way. And I just kind of give you the whole rigmarole. Yeah. But it's interesting because we haven't really done it like this before. We kind of already had a tour planned and then we moved the record release up. So the first leg of the album release tour ended up being only tertiary markets, which is kind of nice because it gives us like six to nine months to build the to build the rollout for like our a plus markets within the same you know window of release yeah which is

6:58Shane Gillis:kind of cool that makes sense and you say build what do you mean by build it up i mean just more time to promote the shows gotcha that that makes sense i thought you said like work on the i guess you already have the album done because that's yeah it's kind of unfortunately in the tertiary markets a lot a lot of figuring it out yeah it's a lot of like hey guys i'm gonna figure this out in front of you sorry i'm gonna do a really good show in chicago but yeah tennis boys is getting the crap it's gonna be great man but uh madison indiana you're gonna get fucked no horn players for you we're filling some things out yeah it's like the no horn players and a lot of times what i recognize now is like you know a lot of dudes bring their wives and their wives are like where's briley which is my wife because she sings with us sometimes and uh she doesn't come out all the time gotcha but uh when she's not there i've seen some some real disappointed lady folks yeah in the crowd no that's true with trucker hats just just waiting for unhappy yeah i've ever thought of just kind of like faking them out yeah just how so put on the dress dude she'll be right back guys hold on a second

8:10Shane Gillis:yeah no britney gets my wife gets uh she'll go to shows every now and now she'll get like recognized and it's kind of funny to like see that and see like people like britney what's going on that's awesome yeah it's pretty cool i don't i don't know how she feels about it i think she loves it deep down but she gets kind of like she's freaked out four-time wnba superstar her yeah the first three weeks of that were really like she was shell-shocked because she would just she didn't realize neither of us really did how big how like wide that went how far that went she would just like go out to get coffee and it'd be like four people like wmba yeah dude she be like that sports crowd is like a whole other thing i know when you tap into that market like those fans are buck wild it's dude it's the i would argue it's like the biggest thing honestly it's like a religion like people feel really like um you know okay to like fight about that yeah or just kind of like i was just at a birthday party recently and it was you know there's nothing wrong with it the guy was just like oh she must be like an eagles fan and it's just so disappointing when you're in a group of dudes somewhere and you go yeah i don't really care i like i yeah i like support them in spirit but i don't really care to watch it i don't know anything about it and you just watch them go well fuck man i don't know what we're going to talk about now like sorry brother that's my whole life yeah no sports yeah like uh especially like briley's friends or like any of our small town friends like when like i'm sure you've been in a situation where you got to meet other husbands and they're like yeah man well you know like uh hurricanes are looking good this year yeah or like uh whatever the fuck else they're talking about um and i'm like i i don't really yeah i don't really watch sports man it's a bummer dude it's a bummer but i try but that's almost worse when you try to engage and then they start hitting you with facts that really go over your head yeah and then you gotta say i'm just bullshitting yeah i'll try to get although too i feel like in those sports convos you can be like i'll fake the funk too i'll be like yeah man i like we won the super bowl last year so you know how that is and then they'll be like they'll be like what do you what do you think what do you think about the big man and i'm like damn i don't know who the fucking big man is they're all they And I'll just show my ass.

10:20Shane Gillis:I'll be like, who are the big men? Because they're talking about the team I'm supposed to be a fan of. They're not even from the city. I'm like, they're the big man you speak of. Donovan McNabb, perhaps? I don't know. Yeah, it's a bummer. I've gotten more. I've just gotten more upfront with it, my lack of sports knowledge and interest. But it is just disappointing because they're like, damn, dude, we could have bonded over this. I've tried. My wife walked in one day, and I was watching football, and I was like actively trying to engage and watch it. And she just laughed at me. She laughed and she's like, what the hell are you doing?

10:57Are you watching football? I'm like, I'm trying to. And I just really didn't enjoy it.

11:04Shane Gillis:Yeah. If it's on, like it's cool, but I have to be somewhere with someone else and it happens to be on, if that makes sense, then I can watch it. But like to, I would feel insane. I think I've tried it too myself. Like I'm going to sit down and watch the game. I'm going to be a real guy. And then I sat down. It's just like, oh, dude, this is so fucking long, dude. I wish I could do something else right now. It's so fucking boring. We watched the World Series the other night, and that was fun. Our tour manager is from Toronto. So he had a lot on the line, and he was very excited. And crushed. Yeah.

11:37We all really wanted to see him. We wanted to see the Blue Jays lose just because we knew he was going to be insufferable if they won. but man when they lost like it was actually really sad for him yeah and we all immediately felt bad

11:51Shane Gillis:that was a tough one for everybody because people were torn between patriotism and how much everyone hates la yep so a lot of people i talked to like fuck the dodgers i don't want the fucking dodgers to win they were just pretty much against their country yeah it was it was an interesting that's pretty that's pretty true everyone i know is kind of like fuck the dodgers i'd rather see canada win Not on our bus. Yeah. We're rooting Team USA, baby. Team USA. I can support that. I was, again, just spineless like usual. I was like, oh, yeah, I could see Canada winning. And then the Dodgers started winning.

12:23Shane Gillis:I'm like, oh, that's good, too. That's good, too. I'd never want to empower Canada. That is true. I do feel that way as well. No, me neither, man. And I feel like being against the Dodgers, as a lot of these guys are, I think it's kind of anti-Semitic to be against the Dodgers. So I think you guys should really think about that. Yeah. I think your hatred of the Dodgers is really charged by your anti-Semitism. Stop Asian hate, man. You've got to support the Dodgers. Did you do that on purpose? Yeah. That's hilarious. Saying anti-Semite, stop Asian hate is very funny. Master. I've been to basketball games.

13:01I've been to football games and hockey games. I like hockey a little bit. but like when I'm at the game like at a basketball game I'm like I'm really I'm gonna get into this I'm a basketball guy now and that just never sticks no as soon as well dude I like I think

13:17Shane Gillis:Nate you probably did you check stats and shit yeah see that's where like I'm going I like I can watch I know I have friends that are like I thought the same thing I'm gonna start watching I'm gonna follow he's like I just see him like googling stats from all the players I'm like bro I always feel like I'm so behind. Yeah. It's weird. This episode is brought to you by Zip Recruiter. I'm constantly looking for my keys and my chapstick, my glasses, headphones, and charger, etc. I lose them almost every day, and the longest time I've spent looking for something is about 17 minutes. I'll tell you what, it'd be nice if we had a superpower that helped us find exactly what we need right at that moment, which I have.

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15:20Shane Gillis:So you could get through, you could chat enough where you'd be like, yo, you see that catch, the Steelers? See, I won't catch, and it'll let them fill in the blanks. I only saw the clip of the catch. Or just get really into sports gambling. Oh, yeah, right. That'll help you pay attention. Just get really deep into gambling? That was the one time I've ever been able to pay attention when I tried to become a bookie in college. Actually, no, even then I didn't watch the games. I did one game, and I'm like, I see the allure. this is great and then i was like all right i'm gonna check my voicemail later and see and people yeah they took advantage of the fact i wasn't watching because they kept just being like double down double down double down and eventually i was like fuck it would hit i never got into gambling man i was i've been pretty much addicted to everything else but but gambling but gambling yeah that's a good one though gambling is the one that really kind of can get you and it's also like i would say it's the lamest addiction drugs it's like there is kind of like a fucking it's kind of sick on some level.

16:21Shane Gillis:Right. It can kill you. It's very dangerous. Yeah. Sex, kind of sick as well. Hell yeah. Gambling is just pathetic when you're like, I just thought these guys would win and now everything's ruined. My life's ruined. It's interesting to be addicted to something that takes like a little bit of skill and like knowledge and like a little bit of planning. True. Which I guess drug use takes a little planning as well. Yeah. But I was always addicted to things that allowed me to let go of everything and not feel anything. Well, apparently, and the more I've read about it, gambling does do that for some people.

16:57Shane Gillis:For me, it's just I just have anxiety the whole time until I either win and become euphoric or lose and feel like a loser. But there's people with gambling who, like, it's more so just that time in between, like, hands or, like, during the game where they get into a flow state where it's just like, it's not even, from what I've heard about it, it's like it's not even about winning or losing. it's about you're just kind of like you're fully on while you don't know what's going to happen they get addicted to that feeling wow yeah it's kind of fucked up but still lame still a lame way to go out it's pretty lame but i think i i think the lamest would be uh i was uh i had a problem with laxatives what yeah and then i realized like a doctor was tell a doctor told me that like it's a form of like bulimia yeah because i i did like when i was like 1920 like i used to throw up all my meals and stuff okay it was a it was a shitty time but then like i started taking laxatives which is like a different form of it i guess yeah i would say the better yeah i would say it's it's a better it's an improvement how'd you get busted with the lax dude i shit my pants in japan

18:04damn I just got like completely hammered drunk and like one sneeze sent me over the edge at my drummer's birthday dinner so you were drinking

18:14Shane Gillis:on the lax yeah I was drinking on the lax we'd gotten to Japan and like you know we had this great big dinner and I was like just got completely hammered and like you know I was speaking the little bit of Japanese I know and just being really loud fuck and uh yeah well it's just really funny to think of a restaurant full of like old japanese people being like you know they're probably shit talking americans like they're so unruly and like oh they're fine and then you stand up to give a speech and shake your pants just hammered yeah it was me how bad would you uh what'd you do how'd you like how'd you because it's tough it's one thing if you shit your pants when you're sober you're kind of tactical about When you're drunk, it's like, you're on your back foot for sure.

19:00I'll say, like, I thought I could save it. You know, I went to the bathroom, and, like, you know, the boxer briefs are done for, so they went in the garbage. And then I went back. And, I mean, we were having dinner at the hotel we were staying in. Yeah. You know, I could have called it a night. But I went back to the dinner. I sat down again and like started drinking more and raging more and then I shit my pants again

19:33Shane Gillis:and then I was like all right there's the first time you shit your underwear the first time yeah then you finally shat your pants oh my god dude and once that happens you just gotta you gotta call it a night and uh my boy my boy Kyle walked me back up to the room and I was just like you know when you're drunk you know everything's a lot bigger and i was like i've always been one to kind of like get ahead of the story so i was walking through the lobby like hey how's everybody doing i shit my pants i was just but nobody spoke english and they were and i was just yelling in people's faces but it's probably good that i quit drinking yeah i would say how long did you how long did you drink for dude like my whole life man i started drinking and smoking when i was like 11 yeah and uh you know it was just like part of the biz for me but i feel a lot better without it i still encourage people to get drunk around me yeah true because drinking was always this thing to like lower that like um inhibitions yeah unless you lower theirs that's actually kind of nice everybody else does it and then you're just kind of you know yeah you look at these drunk idiots yeah it's kind of nice actually yeah that's uh that's kind of nice you tell everyone like yeah because that's i guess if you don't drink i yeah i would worry people are like not drinking on my account it's like yeah you want people to live their lives that's the worst yeah that's i would do that i would if i know someone sober i won't drink on purpose and i yeah it's like an uncomfortable thing but i i knew someone before who did that where i was like all prepared to have like a super sober weekend with them and they just fucking got after it i was like oh shit all right this isn't good yeah but turned out not to be it's always a it's a good feeling when that tide really turns though and yeah and you do lock in and you start and you start drinking oh when you say that's a fun feeling when you just say fuck it yeah i did that with burt kreischer one time just got hammered i just got hammered like i fell off the wagon uh after like a nine month stint i fell off the wagon in san diego and then i went up um and i had the burt cast the next day and i was i was hung over when i got to burt's house and it was the first time he and i had met so this a couple years ago and when i walked in we just immediately just locked in you know yeah he he was like starting a sober journey i was hung over i was like i'm hurting and then we just we really got after it and if you if you watch that so sick you knocked him off his wagon we knocked each other off and we're both waiting around in the deep end and then the next day i had to speak at a sober nation event oh how'd that feel it felt really bad sober that's so funny so you're at least sober for the sober nation though i was hung over oh and i had to speak at this like panel this discussion about sobriety and music how did you handle that one i just had to be honest that you know yeah fucked up first thing i said i was like you know the thing about the wagon is you fall off the wagon you get back on you know which was true and i i really i really had to finesse that because i i felt a little judgment um yeah i bet my management was uh they were pretty terrified horrified they didn't really want me to do it and uh i was like look no i got this because really that is the thing about sobriety that i think scares a lot of people about it like i think one day of sobriety is just as good as 10 years because you're just as close to fucking it up yeah true it doesn't really matter dude i've been i mean it's you know obviously not the same i've been trying to get off of coffee and that was like just fucking impossible because i can like take or leave drinking whatever coffee was one like it's so fucking hard caffeine in general it's so hard to get off of that yeah so like you're saying the longer i go the more likely i am to be like i'm gonna have a fucking cup of coffee dude that shit's not a big deal yeah better and uh and again it's not like drinking but it's just tough man i don't know like how people quit heroin i'm like how it's impossible yeah i can hardly quit caffeine i'm like how do you quit heroin that's one that i never got after but that's good i think i'd really like it yeah probably you're fucking sick yeah you're fucking awesome dude i got family members that got into the opiates and they said it's pretty great yeah but they also said makes you a little constipated yes and i said you got the cure for that i can't do that you got the cure i do have the cure i guess i could supplement that yeah yeah a lot of people too a lot of the opiate people got in meth made a big like it rose in the east coast pretty hard with following the heroin yeah so a lot of people i knew who got into the opiates the meth came around like late stage opiate addiction that was kind of interesting what's funny about meth is like like my dad he was he's a he's a boomer generation guy so like in the 80s meth was uh more like casually used.

24:35Yeah. You know? And he would just like casually do meth.

24:40Shane Gillis:Now, like when they smoke it, snort it, okay. When you start smoking it, that's the problem. And like, I actually have a friend in Georgia and her aunt, Aunt Patty, she's the shit. And she's like a massive Kid Rock fan. She's so awesome. And she has like 15 Instagram accounts. And she just like, Sick Because she forgets her password And she just makes a new one And she signs everything Aunt Patty Or Patty Poo But she's like Man I wake up in the morning To do a lot And clean the house It's like recreational And it's sick Dang As long as you snort it though Yeah I don't know I thought it burned Really badly When you snorted it I mean Ketamine burns pretty bad When you snort it What is?

25:22Ketamine Okay That burnt pretty bad

25:24Shane Gillis:Maybe I'm just a giant pussy I'm over here talking about Like quitting caffeine It's like yeah I hear you About sorority you have quit caffeine for four days. Dude, I couldn't quit caffeine. It's hard. A quick break from the show for a special segment called More or Less, and it's brought to you by PrizePix. No matter the season, the action never stops on PrizePix, whether it's baseball, basketball, football, or anything in between. You can mix and match your favorite players pick more or less on their stats and play for your shot to win up to 2 ,000 times your cash. Prize picks keeps the game going all year long.

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28:49Yeah. So I tried to do that for like a year.

28:51Shane Gillis:Tried like a different glass in Lake Shore. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to have a nice glass of whiskey. And then that would always turn into like, you know, 18 beers. And I just, you know, I thought I'm happy now I can drink. But it just, there's something deep in me, something deeply rooted that just wants it to go completely off the rails, get tore out the frame. That makes sense. so after yeah i see what you're saying so you pretty much have a couple drinks and this the train starts fucking rolling it's like all right yeah once i break the seal man i'm ready to go for like two or three days yeah it's kind of sick though yeah i mean it was fun yeah that's the other thing too is like i had a good time yeah it was fun i had a lot of good times i had a lot of bad times but like those few bad times were bad enough to uh you know outweigh the good times i guess yeah well also too i feel like there's a thing with aging where it's like it is fun and then the older you get you're like dude like i have to either fully pursue this and become like an old drinker or just like stop basically or like really lighten it down like i really i i don't even like like drinking that much anymore like it's it's like i obviously i do like if you give me three drinks i'm like i love this yeah put me out in the sunlight on the beach i'm amazing but like just like as a daily or even like a semi-frequent thing it's just like dude after you stop for a while and you start again you really feel shitty even after only like three or four drinks the next day i'm just like yeah feel terrible and like three or four drinks and knowing i'm gonna feel bad like that's just exactly it's kind of the worst you might as well not do it or i might as well just really do it dial in yeah yeah get not on and off it it would be nice to hire like a team of people who would really manage getting off and on the wagon to stay with you at every moment like pull you down yeah as soon as you grab coke they're like smack it out of your hand yeah or they test it yeah yeah test it for you calling hookers they had like ma 'am he's drunk right now he can't just hang up thank you team thank you like take your phone from you at that point it wouldn't be fun i know because it is like like you said about the gambling it's like the danger element of it yeah it's like this guy's got a bag of heat it might kill me or it might be a good night might have baby laxative in it which yeah that's a big thing coke a lot of laxative and coke a lot of laxative and coke is that how you got into the lax maybe maybe maybe you were chasing the dragon lax with the coke the lax dragon the lax dragon that always made me laugh the coke the baby laxative and coke was always so funny because I knew guys who shit themselves at work from coke they'd be like ah I shit at fucking baby laxative and they always go buy more coke that day and I'm like bro slow it down yeah i mean that's that's when it really got off the rails for me i had a guy in nashville that sold vintage clothing and sold cocaine it's hilarious it was like two of my favorite things yeah and um you know he was hooking me up with like really pure stuff and that's when it got to where i was like i would keep a little corner of a bag to get me going the next day yeah if i had meetings or writing sessions and stuff and that was no good um couldn't even use that like a gentleman no i couldn't i've talked to people who try to claim coke gentlemen and i've yet to see it i've seen it you've seen i've seen it go down and i always thought that i could do it like they have like the nice like like silver platters with like lines and they're drinking wine and listening to like records and shit and uh i was always really into that idea yeah it looks very charming yeah it does um it would always turn into like three four guys in a bathroom, huddle around the toilet.

32:37Shane Gillis:You see the fucking Chargers game? Yeah. Talking about sports, snorting coke. Yeah, I've heard people try to say that. Like, well, actually in like Columbia, they like don't even use coffee. They just do like a little bit of coke every morning. It's just like, how's that going? Will they chew on it? Yeah, the leaves, yeah. But, it's kind of like, and like in this business, especially like, in the arts community, like you recognize like, wealthy people. There's like, like super lowbrow folks like do drugs and smoke cigarettes and then middle class like kind of boycotts that whole lifestyle and then the upper ash they do it too oh yeah you know people are that was what i was really surprised by was like the amount of people doing casual coke and people smoking cigs i still rip cigs but yeah yeah yeah i mean the caffeine cig combo is the it's the best Yeah, kind of.

33:29Shane Gillis:You can really get by on that, honestly. That's me right now. Yeah, I was a big nicotine caffeine guy before I gave both up four days ago. Four days, man. I fell to those little things. Not the pouches. They're like a tablet that dissolve. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I would do them. But I have such a sensitive system. I would have like a coffee, and then sometimes those nicotine tablets would turn on me, and it's just like the head rush from too much nicotine too fast is like. Yeah. I'm just being a giant pussy right now. but those those give me hiccups do they yeah oh yeah no i almost threw up in front of my family i was walking i was we're at the airport i was with sean and i was just trying to be a bad just started doing the little nicotine tabs and i'll be honest i felt so fucking cool like when i was doing like you know like when you're a kid you're like cigs are fucking cool i had the nicotine patch and i just something about keeping something your bottom lip just strikes me as so macho yeah and i was so happy to be like dude this is sick i'm with my kids with sean I was walking through the airport with my thing sticking out of my lip.

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