Ep 593 - Nollywood (feat. Ben Avery & Kevin Iso)

8 Jan 2026 · 1 h 14 min · 35 chapters

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In short

The hosts debate interracial dating and age gaps, then pivot to a “Nollywood”/scams theme, focusing heavily on the Minnesota daycare/autism-center scandal allegedly involving Somali operators. They argue that major fraud occurred (including a cited $250M case), while also criticizing a viral YouTuber’s staged/embellished “gotcha” approach. They also discuss broader scam culture (home care, non-profits, government spending, catfishing/elder scams), plus Nigerian film (“Nollywood”) plots and production costs.

Guests (backgrounds)

Ben Avery and Kevin Iso join as guests. The conversation frames them as having “hot takes” on the Ethiopian/Somali scandal; Kevin Iso is described as jokingly “all for scams,” and Ben Avery as more skeptical/analytical about what’s proven vs. what’s staged.

Key claims

Fraud in Minnesota daycare/autism services is “matter of record,” including illegal filming/attempts to barge into facilities. The viral video is said to be late to the story and potentially staged. Some claims about “no kids” are disputed; investigators reportedly found legit daycares.

Notable examples

A $250M fraud prosecution; a daycare video where a man demands access to children; “feed the future”/COVID-related funding; Nigerian scam stories like selling an airport (described as a parking-lot scam) and “Hush Puppy” real-estate fraud; OnlyFans visa/economics; Nollywood movies’ recurring cheating/accident/spell plots.

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Interracial Relationships and Family Dynamics

0:46 to 1:55

Discussion on the perceptions and implications of dating someone from another race.

“I think all women don't like seeing their man of race date a other race.”

Racism and Interracial Dating

1:56 to 3:30

Exploration of racial dynamics in relationships and societal reactions.

“Yeah, you lose them easier when you're younger.”

Interracial Relationships in Aging

3:31 to 4:50

The implications of age on relationships and experiences of loss.

“You just wait for that meatball to cook in the oven, you know?”

Cultural Commentary on Women

4:51 to 6:40

Humorous and critical take on dating advice and perceptions of women's families.

Discussion on Childcare Scams

6:41 to 8:00

Insightful discussion on scandals related to childcare and governmental oversight.

Continued Discussion on Scams and Fraud

9:31 to 14:03

Further analysis of fraud within childcare and broader societal implications.

“They need to mix gas into a boat and traffic drugs.”

Exploring Daycare Scams and Pirates

14:03 to 16:42

The hosts discuss the legitimacy of daycare operations and the idea of pirates involved in scams.

“Why are some red and why are some green?”

Analyzing the Minnesota Situation

16:42 to 19:24

The conversation shifts to the political implications and public reactions surrounding the daycare claims in Minnesota.

“Look, he wanted someone on to defend the pirates.”

The Nature of Scams

19:24 to 22:26

The hosts delve into various types of scams and the societal reactions to them, including daycare and home care scams.

“Even the daycare thing, it's a low stakes thing for real.”

Nollywood and Nigerian Culture

22:26 to 25:56

Discussion about Nollywood films and the cultural context behind them, including common plot themes.

“How we know they don't get paid in ones.”
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Witchcraft in Nigeria

25:56 to 28:00

The hosts explore beliefs surrounding witchcraft in Nigeria and its impact on cultural narratives.

“No, they're speaking English the whole time.”

Exploring Nigerian Scams

28:00 to 29:00

Listeners will learn about various infamous Nigerian scams and their history.

“I thought you were going to type it in the thing.”

Evolving Scams and Stereotypes

29:00 to 30:50

Discussion on how scams have evolved over time and the misconceptions that persist.

“And I feel like it was like a government or something, like just some foreigner.”

Scamming the Elderly

30:50 to 32:30

The podcast tackles contemporary scams targeting vulnerable populations, particularly the elderly.

“the nigerians is doing we left y 'all in the 90s thinking that and now we doing new stuff keep thinking it.”

OnlyFans and Visas

34:10 to 36:10

Exploration of the business of OnlyFans models and their immigration challenges.

“And then the week after that, Sean's going to be there.”

Gaming in Crisis

36:10 to 38:00

A humorous take on gaming culture amidst chaotic scenarios, reflecting on personal anecdotes.

“We should all start fucking each other on the show.”

Parenting Experiences and Reflections

38:00 to 42:00

The hosts share their parenting experiences and reflect on their childhoods.

“My mom would be don't go in there and I'm like whatever and I'd be under it's like fully under a full breaststroke and pooping.”

Childhood Reflections on Fun and Parenting

42:00 to 43:02

The hosts discuss their childhood experiences and the importance of teaching kids to have fun.

“like you're done you're goodbye for the day darkness I was just the creature dude I was in a room and you're in a Somalian daycare and the windows are boarded up and the lights are off Where the fuck was that kid?”

The Weight of Parenting Responsibilities

43:02 to 44:18

An exploration of the pressures of parenting and the legacy of parental actions.

“So we like, you know, we fucking drive around really fast in the car, listen to really loud music, dance a lot.”

Childhood Punishments and Their Impact

44:18 to 45:24

A humorous take on childhood punishments and their absurdity in hindsight.

“Dude, I never even thought a kid could die from a hot car.”

Modern Car Safety Features and Irony

45:24 to 47:02

Discussion about modern cars and their safety features, including absurdities and dangers.

“Yeah, it's like a little white on white racism.”

Life and Death Choices: Burning vs. Drowning

48:13 to 49:42

A deep dive into the terrifying choices of death and philosophical musings on life.

“This episode is brought to you by Men's Warehouse.”

Cultural Practices and Monastic Life

49:42 to 51:10

Exploration of cultural practices surrounding monks and societal expectations.

“It's so funny to be on fire and be like, I don't even care.”

The Complexity of Sex Tourism in Thailand

51:10 to 52:58

Discussion on the intricate and often troubling dynamics of sex tourism in Thailand.

“And she was telling him that, like, the tourism.”

Stereotypes and Traveling to Thailand

52:58 to 54:10

A humorous examination of stereotypes related to travel and tourism in Thailand.

“I think lady boys over there are just popping off so hard that it's like, and that's an easy one, too, where it's like, bro, we're going to send stuff back to the family.”

Ayahuasca and the Search for Enlightenment

54:10 to 55:53

An exploration of ayahuasca experiences and the motivations behind participating.

“to someone recently who was in asia and they're like oh my friend was supposed to meet me over wherever they were he got his visa got messed up in thailand he's stuck there and i was like Is that what he told you?”

Exploring DMT Experiences

56:00 to 57:40

Listeners will learn about DMT experiences and the entities some claim to encounter during trips.

“I went to the astral realm and just got absolutely kicked around.”

Perceptions of Hallucinogenic Users

57:40 to 59:20

Discussion on how frequent hallucinogen use may change physical appearance and perception.

“You got to pull up a picture of Will Silvins.”

Life, Death, and Hot Tub Anecdotes

59:20 to 1:01:20

A humorous take on celebrity deaths and the topic of life expectancy and how people perceive getting older.

“So he was, I thought he was on ketamine.”

Evolving Attitudes Towards Aging

1:01:20 to 1:03:10

Exploration of how attitudes towards aging and old age may shift in future generations.

“but there are all those old people that are just like sitting around waiting to go.”

Political Commentary on Bureaucracy

1:03:10 to 1:05:20

Insights into the bureaucratic state and its methods of creating and solving problems.

“I mean, everyone, look, we're a fucking empire, dude.”

Police Encounters and Accountability

1:05:20 to 1:07:30

A discussion on police use of force and the complexities surrounding police encounters.

“It's like Biden was so old that you're like, dude, this guy is fucking getting around pretty good.”

Q&A with Premium Subscribers

1:07:30 to 1:10:02

Answers to questions from premium subscribers that touch on personal and humorous topics.

“Yeah, so the car takes off once she gets shot.”

Exploring a Complicated Relationship Dynamic

1:10:02 to 1:14:10

A listener shares a personal story about an unexpected sexual experience that raises questions about identity and communication.

“Do you think I should maybe join a fraternity?”

Podcast Promotions and Upcoming Shows

1:14:10 to 1:14:41

The guests discuss their upcoming shows and promote their social media and podcasts.

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Transcript

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0:00The Wild Wild West. Chinese girlfriend. Just lead with it. Just lead with it.

0:08Shane Gillis:Chinese girlfriend. Hey, fuck. This guy's a genius. I heard it for three seconds and now I can't forget it. I know. Chinese girlfriend. How sad would you be though, dude? You're like a maybe 55-year-old black dude and you lose your Chinese girlfriend. That would kill me. I just feel like more so. And again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like, you know, if I had a Chinese girlfriend, I mean, I married my family probably disapprove. But if I had a Chinese girlfriend, my family would be like kind of sick. I might get a couple of like Chinese girlfriend. But I feel like in a black family of a Chinese girlfriend, you'd get a mega high five.

0:44Shane Gillis:Correct me if I'm wrong. From the youngs. From the old from the men. Oh, yeah. Men would. Yeah. You did it right. Yeah. The men would definitely. The women. They don't like that, do they? I think all women don't like seeing their man of race date a other race. Women are quietly racist against. They don't like interracial stuff. You think white women mind? Oh, they do. I know they do. Oh, they do? Oh, yeah. I didn't think they care. No, they get mad. They'll tease. They'll get like three glasses of wine and be like, Sam, are you dating a black girl? Are you afraid she's going to like bake you up?

1:25Shane Gillis:They get like a couple glasses of white wine. And all the dad's information just trickles out. I'm afraid he's going to beat you up. Is that a hit kid? I've been, you know, I'm in an age gap interracial relationship, so I know. Is it, you think it's harder, you think it's harder to lose your girlfriend when you're older or younger? You mean lose? Yeah, because you said it's pretty rough on a 55-year-old dude. To lose your Asian girlfriend. Yeah. Ah, man. I think it's rougher when you're young. Younger. Yeah. Yeah, you lose them easier when you're younger. Yeah, you get it. If you lose them, yeah.

2:01Shane Gillis:Yeah. I mean, pre-30, every girl's a kind of free agent. Once they kind of hit 30, then they start going like, all right, let me nestle into this sitch. Right. Because, you know. But then when you're young and you lose them, you didn't really ever really have them, even though you thought you did. True. When you're old and you lose them, you had that. Yeah. And then it's gone. And that's your final form. Yeah. She was like, I've seen the flower has fully bloomed. and no thank you for me. That's all you got. I'm going to take my chances dating as a 50-year-old woman, which probably is no picnic if I had to imagine.

2:36Yeah, people say like, you know, before you date a woman, just like look at her mother.

2:41Shane Gillis:Yeah. I'm like, I'm not going to do that. I thought the saying was fap to her mother. Oh, yeah. I thought it was before you date a woman, try to fap to her mother. And if you crank one off, the night before the wedding, pull up a big photo of her on an iPad.

3:00Shane Gillis:That's the last hurrah of your bachelor party. You and all your boys. But does that mean you truly love your wife that you'd fuck your mom? You go, baby, I love you so much. I would eat your mom's pussy. I mean, that is one form, I guess. But that is the saying. Like, you know, if you think her mom's hot, that's what her daughters are. That's what her daughters don't look like. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes they don't pan out. I would like the opposite. I like to have a very attractive woman with an absolutely busted mom and just sit on the edge of my seat for like 15 years. Waiting. Waiting for it.

3:36Shane Gillis:Just to watch the same. Waiting for it to happen. Just to see the transformation. That's Italians. Yeah, true. That's Italians. You just wait for that meatball to cook in the oven, you know? True. Yeah, true. She looks like. Oh, is it all? Sorry, it's all fucked up. It's okay. We got a little technical difficulties.

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4:01Shane Gillis:Oh, you got it. I'm not having... Am I having problems because I'm tall as hell either or no? Now my mic's fine. I think I have a different mic to catch us. Dude, thanks for doing it, man. Ben Avery, Kevin Iso. Ben Avery Thank you, Matt. Ben Avery Thank you, man. Thank you guys for coming. Sean was telling me that you had some hot takes on the Ethiopian scandal. Sean O' You don't even got the right... Sean O' No, you did. Somali. My bad. Dude, I... No, I did... I'm more Ethiopian, I think. You just, you just like, yeah, they all skimmin'. Sorry, I just, dude, I get a little nervous sometimes, I've been over 10 years.

4:31Shane Gillis:It's a hot button issue. Yeah. The Somalian, that's what Gardini pitched me. He goes, the isotope has some takes on the, on the. I feel like they've all been said at this point. No, no. But my, my thing with it is, it's twofold, right? One is like, they definitely scamming. But. It's a matter of fact, I think. Yeah. i mean it's it's happening but at the same time that doesn't exclude dude from being racist about going about the way he did it talking about the dude shirley yeah well dude that was so i watched the video so i didn't know anything about it so i'm like all right let's see what we have here and i read up on it first and i was like yeah for sure there's there's like matter of record scams going on for sure but that dude was pulling on daycare doors right and being like where are the children they're like bro get out of here and he's like i fucking told you this was a you're legally they're supposed to be locked right it's you have a kid in daycare it's locked doors and you're like please don't let them see into this building for sure i don't want weirdos staring in i've never been allowed in a daycare you have kids you know what i mean you got to come with that right energy and be like where the fuck are the kids or the taxpayer money exactly or and filming the kids too it's illegal which is like you can't do that yeah i don't think i really don't think you're allowed i mean you i guess you could technically film them but you can't do anything with the footage like even a daycare has to as a parent ask you if it's okay if they take pictures of your kids right so if i roll in with the metas and i'm like show me the fucking children let me in now with like a 60 year old guy next to me who's just waving documents the video was insane i watched it being like oh man they're gonna blow my socks off of the scandal and i was like this guy's out of his fucking mind you're not he's wrong you're not allowed i mean again it's like yes there's clearly massive fraud in minnesota yeah he's acting like he blew the lid off it's like bro you're like a year and a half late right because they already caught the lady that was originally doing it well dude there was that there was also there was the autism centers that got busted and then there was that happened in autism centers it's just like a building like this imagine if we all down here like yeah we're working on autism kids and they came down we're just doing a podcast making like a million dollars somebody gotta start counting shit fast oh fuck they hear three four the big the biggest the biggest scam and again these are just the ones that get caught there was one for 250 million dollars recently where during the during covid they were getting government funds it was called like feed the future or something and dude these it was like i think like 60 people got arrested they were just taking money and it was unfortunately it was mostly somalian dudes but they were taking the money and they took like 250 mil in just like food bank money and they like you know they tracked everything it was they were saying they bought they uh gave money to the whatever that terrorist organization is they but they they did a deep dive it was just sick whips and went to warlords and stuff they no it didn't they said it was but they like did a deep dive and it was apparently just like sick ass lamborghinis and shit but see so okay that's kind of tight yeah that's and that's that's that's that's what one of the dudes like messed up at because they like he got in front of the learning center and he was like yeah this is uh this is an estate this is a legit business and then they went on his instagram he was in pictures with like lambos and stuff it's like damn i don't know daycare i don't know i think he pulled up on the uber e twitter like skirt and dude's like yeah where the fuck is

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11:00What do they need oil for?

11:03Shane Gillis:Venezuela? Traffic drugs. We need it. How does that work? They need to mix gas into a boat and traffic drugs. Fucking work. It's a Grand Theft Auto-ass country. No, that's a fair take. So you were seeing a lot of the stuff about like, fuck, this is bullshit. And you're like, yeah, I don't care that they're scammed. Let them scam. I don't know. Okay, yeah, I don't care that they're scamming. But also, I don't care where my taxpayer dollars go. if they're scamming that kind of money. I'd rather them scam that money than my money that I'm investing. Like, whenever these white dudes is doing their fraud, it's money that you actually gave to Enron.

11:38It's, like, my real money. I'd rather you take the money that was already about to be taken. You know what I mean? I don't know where it's going. So, you know, but they definitely, they definitely, I'm not. There's some six-year-old white dudes in Minnesota right now

11:55Shane Gillis:who are furious with that take. I don't care He don't know where his taxpayer dollars is going He don't even know where his shit going Oh they taking the money, my money No it's not You don't know where the fuck your money at But my other thing So with the racism shit It's just like It's like when I used to like Walk into stores and like they would follow me around Like oh this black guy stealing And it's like oh you following me around It's just racism and I was stealing too that's what the that's what the minnesota sure remind me of it's like yeah it's racist but yeah i think they went the other way i think the minnesota government was like how dare you say that and then it came out where it was like fuck yeah we got out because they could have totally that's not a hard thing to check with like the autism centers and stuff you send out a couple people with clipboards like how many people we got in here all right we're good i think they were kind of like we trust you and they got fucking leveled yeah the problem i mean the problem with that shit too is that they they just put in all somalians now and it's like across the country because this is a couple of somalian homies i got out here really that people are like yo they just looking at their foreheads they just look at their foreheads like you're you somalian it's rough out here for y 'all right now It's like, damn.

13:18Which, I mean, that's just, that's the part about it that just, that stings the most. That's tough.

13:24Shane Gillis:But I mean, here's the thing, though. Like, as a black American, do you ever think about just, like, totally just ostracizing them and coming up off, like, dunking on them racially? No, I'm Nigerian. Well, that's what I'm saying. What do you mean? Oh, so you're from Nigeria. Yeah, my parents are. I'm Nigerian by marriage, so I totally get it. My wife, her family's Nigerian. Oh, really? I've been to a Nigerian wedding. They're fucking sick. Yeah. Lay on the ground. I was just at one a couple months ago. Begged the father of the bride. Oh, you did? Oh. I wanted to. I asked to do it, too. They're like, no, you got to chill.

13:55You didn't have a Nigerian wedding?

13:57Shane Gillis:No. No, she's like, you know. She's not like her grandmother supposedly is, but, you know. Okay. They're not from where we're from. This is the map of the daycares. It was 4 ,000 in a 20-mile radius. Are these the ones that are fraud? That's a lot of guys. So here's the thing. When I hear it, when people go.

14:20Why are some red and why are some green? I'm not sure, but somewhere in the middle of the water, too. Well, they are pirates, right? Makes sense. I personally, when everybody went up to the day, when people went up to the daycares, they're like, there's no kids in the Somalian daycares. I was like, I was relieved. I was like, thank God there's no children. It's like worst case scenario. thank god they're empty were you worried

14:46Shane Gillis:they chiseled out I thought you were worried they chiseled out the cement floors and were mining lithium when did they run into these daycares that's my other thing because I saw this shit on Christmas it ain't nobody in the daycare I'm like it's the holiday supposedly this video is debunking it I didn't go looking for them Well, so here's the thing, too. And I'm pro pirate. I've always loved pirates. I'm a big fan. Who doesn't love pirates? True. That's fair. So the video itself, apparently, and I was curious, too, because they looked into it, and it was like, no, these were all legit daycares, because I guess, whatever, Minnesota state came through, Minnesota Vikings came through, and we're just like, no, these are all check out.

15:35Shane Gillis:And then you go, okay, well, is this like a government cover up? Like the Democrats being like, dude, we can't take another political hit. it's going to be an election year. But then it's like, apparently it's, it's, I think they were legitly running because you're like Republican, like lawyers, they were the moment that video came out, there was probably a bazillion lawyers like digging in and all that stuff. So really, if it wasn't above board, they would have, I think they would have cracked it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Cause they were like the, you know, if you get like the Republican guys, they're super motivated to like prove that there are scams.

16:05Shane Gillis:It just looks good. It's a big slam dunk. huge slam dunk 360 slam dunk but they already got the slam dunk the young youtuber went in for like a weird victory lap did you oh what happened tim waltz quit tim waltz oh yeah i saw that i saw that and he it was a headshot it was a headshot and he a waltz was like that guy went on like i ended waltz well and reality is kind of memed into existence anyway so it doesn't really matter what's true so he had to take the l i don't even know if it's real or not have you actually found out like the real like definitive I looked it up there's there was a definitive scam people were prosecuted for 250 million dollars you have to think like say you're selling drugs when that finally gets busted you don't bust them right away so it was right they were probably rock they were running it for a while yeah they were rocking they rob us at sea then they rob us at land did you see the late they you know go ahead no no go ahead no no no get it out Kevin Iso, please have the floor.

17:04Get it out. Look, he wanted someone on to defend the pirates.

17:09Shane Gillis:No, it wasn't it. I thought it was just a funny take because I didn't know anything about it. And Gardini was like, yeah, Iso wants to talk about this. I'm definitely passionate about it. I'm all for scams. I mean, we live in a bureaucracy, right? And scams are supposed to be hidden within the bureaucratic state. That's why it exists, so they can do all their scams. So when other people are – I mean, everybody's scamming. Nancy Pelosi's scamming. You know, we're paying for health insurance for Israelis for some reason. Apparently tax dollars. It's going everywhere. It's going everywhere but us to our roads, to our children.

17:41So, you know, go pirates. Did you see which is which is a fair point, by the way, everybody scamming. It's just that when you when it's so obvious what the scam is. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody get a little tight. We're like, yo, you do. There ain't no kids in the daycare. It's like versus the bank fraud scam where it's hard to see. You walk into the bank, it looked like it's real shit. Yep. And then you pull the thing down. I don't know.

18:06Shane Gillis:Pull it off a little better. Yeah. And also, too, like you have to think if you're, I mean, I don't know. I don't know really much about Minnesota, but you can never underestimate just like an older kind of angry, like old white guy. Yeah. There were eyes on those fucking guys. Yeah. They had eyes on the Somalis from day one. Oh, yeah. For sure. He was on to them immediately. What the fuck is it? They just got stared at for 10 years until a guy was like, hold on a second. I noticed something here. Come on, man. You know how many times I've seen Fargo and seen one Somalian inside that shit? What, in the movie you're saying?

18:39In the show? All of it. Is Fargo in Minnesota? I think it's the Dakotas. I think

18:47Shane Gillis:Minnesota is like... Minnesota might have the biggest Somalian population. Yeah, because they let the men. Sanctuary. Yeah, the sanctuary. Because they're scamming. No, they did Sanctuary City. Did you see the kid on CNN? What, you're the kid who did the video? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see the CNN interview? Y 'all can't play that shit on here? He looks so dumb on there. Who, Shirley? How old is Nick Shirley? He's like 21. Yeah, that's the thing. He's a youngster. Yeah, he's a kid. He's a youngster. He kind of in over his head a little bit. yeah he's drunk on youtube that old guy is next to the old guy the old guy waving paper the old guy has a thousand pages of loose leaf or he's been tracking somalians he is that guy's not he's been thinking about preschools way before this scam ever happened well no the thing that they didn't mention though they brought up in the video which again to the video's point like yes they had a they have a major problem with somalian scamming in minnesota but then there was like these just vehicles that were like hey we can we just drive people around for medical appointments but then they were like they're not checking and again i don't know if this guy's i heard that's true or not say that he's like but that's that's yeah that's in every city dude home the home care hustle is like the oldest thing in the world sure just chill with your aunt and get 30 bucks an hour yeah absolutely everywhere that's everywhere which again kind of chill i honestly think the home care thing is kind of that's kind of nice it's a good scam it's a really good scam and it's like a low stakes scam for real.

20:23Even the daycare thing, it's a low stakes thing for real. If you say that you got 50 kids in a daycare but you really got 25, who you hurting?

20:32Shane Gillis:Yeah, well, there's other 25 kids that should be in there. They're printing so much money every month anyway now. Money's not real anymore. Kids will be alright. Yeah, I mean, hey, look, tell that to fucking, what's the guy's name again? Shirley. Shirley's gonna be on your fucking ass, dude. He's gonna hand you. you're next you're on the shirley hit list that guy i'm skeptical of that guy's video there's clearly like fraud of some kind but the he had a video with joe biden where he was holding up immigration signs and shit who was this one he was paying immigrants to hold up signs that said like we're for joe biden because he's gonna have open borders and like nick shirley copped to that that he was paying people in the video to look like what so he stages stuff in his videos but that doesn't mean it's not on that it's untrue it just means he embellishes things yeah see he's scamming the scammers sure i mean he definitely came up and again the video i watched it i gave it an honest look and i was like dude this is it's weird like ever i was like i was trying to look at the comments to see if there'd be one person being like yeah you're not allowed to just barge into it everyone's like get them brother i'd be if that was my kid's daycare someone was kicking in the door and they were like i'm so sorry sir please tour the facilities i'd be like dude i'm taking my kids out here objectively funny leering daycare center objectively funny them missing that in objectively hilarious well they're still to be fair they're still just leering so there's obviously there's improvement there's improvements to be made we're all lifelong students why aren't there like the parents of the kids coming out like if there was kids there like Matt said he'd be like oh the kids aren't going to be in the daycare with them and also they're probably scamming too a little bit so they're probably like dude get the fuck out of here and also how we know it wasn't an overnight daycare how we know it's not how we know because some people are in night school how we know it's not a daycare for strippers that is kids that's always sad when i see you see that in philly sometimes you're driving through a neighborhood you see the day care hours and it's like 2 a.m pickup and you're like god yeah dude god yeah they legit have like midnight pickup on daycare.

22:47How we know they don't get paid in ones.

22:53True.

22:54Shane Gillis:We got to drop this the right way. It's got to drop the crown Royal sack full of ones. No, I work at a daycare. I swear. I swear. I swear. I watch kids. You watch kids with this. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, look, maybe we should have a live cam in a small daycare 24 seven. everybody nice is a pedophile watching that being like there we go things are about to change i don't think pedophiles like somalian kids i i don't know you don't think so i'm just i don't i don't you don't think they'll like i think kevin's right on this one i've looked into michael aquino and country walk and presidio mcmartin there's no somalians mentioned in any of tim tate's books or anything you think it's never mind that's a bad comparison when it comes to satanic ritual abuse, you know.

23:43Usually there's not a small one involved.

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23:45Shane Gillis:It's kind of like too gamey.

23:53Shane Gillis:Baby pedophiles say that. I don't know. We want Kevin. It's funny to be mad about daycares now. Like the satanic panic and everything in the 80s and the 90s, you know. Sorry, I should have kept that to myself. It's fine. We're podcasting. Here's the thing though. from like, okay, Nigerian, right? Excellent scammers. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they're also like Nigerians. I'm a big proponent of Nigerian excellence in terms of mathematics, all that stuff. As a Nigerian, wouldn't you like just see a Somali and be like, psst, or is it like more unity than that? Because I know Ethiopians and Somalians.

24:30Shane Gillis:Ethiopians, they don't like each other? I think there's a bit of a - Everybody, everybody beefs, but then like when you're outside, when you off the continent, I think there's a little bit more unity. Yeah, true. You know, but on it, it is a little bit of, you know, everybody, people beef with, there's Nigerians that hate other Nigerians. Yeah, that's fair. You know what I mean? It's like Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Right, right, right. The closer you are, the worse it really is. But Nigerian scamming, I hope they don't start looking into that shit. Well. Nick, stay away. They will fuck us up.

25:09Shane Gillis:Dude, I actually looked into, I went to a Nigerian restaurant one time and I was watching, there was like the Nollywood movies. I didn't know what it was. I was watching like, what the fuck is it? Yeah, you know about Nollywood? No, no. Nigerian Hollywood. And dude, I like looked into it. You can film a movie in Nigeria for like 15 grand. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Thinking about it. Yeah. You know, here it's like a million bucks. That would be hilarious. You have to do that. If I did a Nollywood epic, it'd be nice. Yeah. Just put myself in it, like Clint Eastwood style, right? Directed, star.

25:36For 15 grand, you could shoot like Mission Impossible. No, no, no. An indie movie. Oh, an indie.

25:42Shane Gillis:You do like a nice, a really sick indie movie. That would actually be hilarious. That would be a sick move. Yeah. I would have a brutal schedule though because I'd try to be like maybe a month. I'm like, you know, I can bring my whole family. I'd watch it. I'd definitely watch you not understand anything they're saying. No, they're speaking English the whole time. No, they're speaking English but it's also Pigeon. A little something. Yeah, yeah. Throwing some French into the mix. No, check it out. Nollywood movies are sick. They're on YouTube for free. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Full feature, dude.

26:10Shane Gillis:I watched it in the restaurant. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is this? This movie's crazy. A lot of the movies have the same plot, though. A lot of them is like a guy who like cheats on his wife. And then she like, he like, he like gets in an accident and comes crawling back to her. Or she like. What kind of accident? Like, I don't know, like a car accident. Or she like puts a spell on him. And then he can't fucking walk anymore. And then he's like, take me back. I'm sorry. And she's like, no. Don't they believe in witches and stuff? Believe in witches is crazy. No. They don't? No. I've seen, like, newspapers from over there.

26:47Believe in witches. And they say, like, a witch can touch your penis and it shrinks into nothing. No, that's like a witchcraft, but it's not like a belief. It's more so like voodoo type shit. It's like, I won't say it's like a belief thing, but it's more so like it's more prevalent. and it's actually real for real. Like voodoo. I'm not wrong. It's real. He goes no but yes and. It is real for real. I'd be scared. If somebody for real could do that shit to you and take your fucking hair and wrap it around some shit or put some blood on you I think that shit is real. You can read about witchcraft in the newspapers there if you subscribe to any of the newspapers All right, you can read about it about the scam.

27:39Yo,

27:44there we go.

27:49Shane Gillis:That's how is that really probably is. I saw I was watching one earlier and I was like skipping through and there was one. It was exact plot you're describing where it was like a guy had been cheating on her friend and she like there's I was like trying to just like I wanted to watch just the climax to the movie i went to like the end and this lady put like a handkerchief on her head gigantic sunglasses and just confronted a guy being like i know what you did he's like you cannot prove it it's literally and i only watched for like 10 seconds it was the exact yeah they all the same but women love that comedies yeah and the comedies were you know i watched the comedy in the restaurant that was actually i was like kind of it was like pure slapstick it was kind of cracking me up yeah he's like falling in shape like aki and papa is like, don't worry, never mind.

28:35I thought you were going to type it in the thing. You were like, speak English.

28:42But no, Nigerian scammers. Best scammers. It's a dude that scammed like he sold an airport to somebody. I swear to God. That rules. He sold an airport to somebody. I don't remember the full story. Which is basically a really big parking lot. He sold an airport that didn't exist. That's awesome. To who? And I feel like it was like a government or something, like just some foreigner. But he sold an airport, a Nigerian dude. And then, obviously, Hush Puppy is like one of the most notorious. What was Hush Puppy? Nigerian scammers. He's in jail right now, I think, for like 11 years. But he was just stealing money.

29:22I don't even remember how, for real. Really? Yeah, a couple hundred million.

29:26Shane Gillis:Yeah. I like the romance scams. He was trying to make a documentary about it. Hush Puppy sounds like a hiccup rapper. Like he'd be featured on a Jelly Roll album. Jelly Roll featuring Hush Puppy. What was it called? Hiccup? Hiccup. You know what Hiccup is? Now I can put it in the other end. Hiccup is like, it's red dirt. We're from the red dirt road. Okay. You know, like that. Real estate. And they're wave Confederate flags. My bad. Real estate mogul. Nice. Hush Puppy was a real estate mogul. Yeah. Sick. That's a great man. $124 million from an English Premier League club. Ooh. you know what I mean that's top go big or go home man yeah you can fuck around the fake daycare or you can just go big get 124 million from an English guy and I think they only got them for like 11 years or something like that it's not bad it's not bad it's not bad it's worth it yeah I feel like if you steal 100 million bucks you can hide for sure probably 50 million and then give the rest up and like ah dude I don't know I'd spend it all sorry yeah you guys didn't bring up the prints what prints the Nigerian prints the email scams dude so apparently so i looked into the a long time ago that was like that was like the yeah apparently well apparently that wasn't even some of those weren't even from africa some of those are just like a dude from ohio feigning the nigerian prince which is like 40 chess for sure see that's the that's the that's the scam right now because everybody still think that's the scam the nigerians is doing we left y 'all in the 90s thinking that and now we doing new stuff keep thinking it.

30:59Keep the stereotype alive. Yeah, it's a Nigerian prince. We are white women now.

31:10The new shit is scamming the elderly. That's the new thing. Oh, that's meat and potatoes. Dude, just catfishing. Some people go home for Thanksgiving to see their grandma and they go, I'm dating Matt Reif. I'm dating Vladimir Putin and I send him Apple gift cards. It's every Tuesday and we're married. Oh, God. And if you track it, it always goes to Kuwait. They're killing the game right now. Really? Killing it.

31:37Shane Gillis:Yeah. There's a great catfishing YouTube channel and they always track these people down. I like a classic Indian robocall. Yes. Just 40 dudes sweating in a fucking call center just banging the phone. That's what I like. In a warehouse that's flooded. I like when they're playing video games and the water's like up to here. Have you seen that? No. Where they're all playing like video poker and they have to swim to the next machine. No, no. What? Is that real? It could be AI. It doesn't matter. I made it up. Maybe. Yo, Sora's good, though, dude. You never know. Nah, it's getting scary. Yeah. It's getting scary.

32:16I don't even want it. They got a dude. They got Matt Barnes recently. They got him. Like, he's some AI girl scanning him out like 60 grand or something. Like, something crazy. Yeah, bro.

32:28Shane Gillis:Who's Matt Barnes again? He's a former basketball player. Oh, no. He fell for that? Yeah, bro. Sad, dog. Scamming for how much? I feel like it was like 60. Jeez. I think, I still think the Shannon Sharp thing is like an intricate scam where you get lawyers who hook up with OnlyFans ladies and they start just fucking like go, go, go, film a sexual encounter, threaten the tape. This episode is brought to you by PrizePix. We're in the second week of January and you've probably already given up on your resolutions. But there's good news. some of the best football games of the season are around the corner.

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35:09Bro, the OnlyFans shit is getting better. I saw something recently. it said it's easier for OnlyFans models in other countries to get a visa to this country than it is for like, like movies. Like they said, the OnlyFans models is eating up the visas. Really? Yeah. So I thought they were sex slaves.

35:27Shane Gillis:What the hell? They said they can get in with the, if they make a certain amount of money. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. The visas that they like reserve for like Arnold Schwarzenegger type people. Yeah. They giving it. That makes sense. I see what you're saying. Dude, I looked it up one time because I wanted to see how much OnlyFans actually makes versus Patreon. Patreon, I think all the Patreons globally put everyone's Patreon money together. I think it's like, I don't even know. I think it maybe is like$80 million, if that. Do you know how much OnlyFans is collectively? That's like one-tenth of what Sophie Rain makes a month.

36:02Shane Gillis:Dude, it's like$13 billion a year. OnlyFans is$13 billion a year. Porn and gaming, like in gambling are the big three and comedy is like way under here. I know. When it comes to money. We should all start fucking each other on the show. At least. And playing poker. Pulse. Just AI. We'll AI it. What is AI? AI. We'll wear mocap suits. We're not actually fucking, but it just looks like we are. We're just like, we're just like dry humming. What? Oh, shit. Oh, no. No. No. Bro.

36:39Shane Gillis:Dude, there's a typhoon. What are they going to do? That's true. Gaming in the typhoon is actually kind of legendary. That shows you how addictive gambling is, right? Hold on. Almost one. There's a snake on you. It's like anaconda.

36:59There's gators and shit. Dude, that's fucked up.

37:02Shane Gillis:Where was that again? They said Philippines. That was the Philippines. So that was a cafe? It was an internet cafe. Oh, okay. That's how you know, yeah. That's how you know the country's not doing well when they're like, yo, we have the internet here. I'll pay five bucks an hour. Okay, so that's gaming. I do get that. Dude, being 12 years old and playing Xbox Live, the house could be on fire. You could have flooded my cousin's basement. We weren't going anywhere. Not going anywhere, dude. I'm playing Halo. Especially if I just got to a level I even got to before. Come on now. Your game's not saved.

37:32Shane Gillis:I mean, that would be chill, too. You never even think of it. Imagine just chilling in water and gaming. If you rage quit though, you let your cute yourself. If you slam the controller down, it kills everybody Damn, that's fucking crazy. But I remember when I would go to the beach when I was little the beach would flood all the time So we meet my cousins around the streets and like swim and like the street flood water Yeah, I just realized not too long ago sewage. It was all sewage. Oh, yeah. Yeah, poop and pee poop and pee I was just in there don't get my head My mom would be don't go in there and I'm like whatever and I'd be under it's like fully under a full breaststroke and pooping.

38:08Shane Gillis:Like, mommy, look at me. It's a piece of shit on your head. Huge shirt. I was like, when I first, when I had my first kid, we were in Philly, and we were at this playground, and like there was a, like a sprinkler kind of thing, but that had kept going, and it like it flooded one of the little drains, like the storm drains, and then that water was kicking up from the sewage, and it created this other little pond. So I don't, like kids would go to play in there, They'd be with another kid and that kid would jump in like the shit water and I'd be like, hold up. You can't play in there. They're playing in there.

38:38And I was like, they have bad lives, dude. You don't, like, they don't have their parents here, dude.

38:43Shane Gillis:They're going to swim in the shit water and you're going to stay out of that. And, you know, this is where your guys' friendship ends. So, sorry. I was drunk on a couch. Unfortunately, I'm here. So, no shit water for you. Would you let them do the trampoline on the mattress that's been outside for like six months? Hell no. You wouldn't? No way. Like, oh, it's just sitting outside. If I saw a mattress, first of all, if there's a mattress outside my house, I would call the city and make, remove this right now. I'm not having that. I'm like, guys, this is infested. Take this out immediately. No, I'm a, yeah, I don't know.

39:18Shane Gillis:I try to, even in Philly, like, I remember, like, if someone would be, like, nodded out on our street corner, I wouldn't be mean to them, but I'd go up and be like, bro, you got to move. But you used to do it, though. Oh, yeah, I would have done. I used to walk along the side of the highway when I was a kid. Yeah. So yeah, I used to like throw golf balls at cars and like run away. Yeah, I was really bad. But no, my kids live like a completely, I mean, I'm letting them kind of roam a little bit now. But no, they're like completely sheltered. You got a girl? Two girls. Two girls. Oh, all right. Never mind.

39:47Exactly. I thought you had a boy. No. Yeah.

39:50Shane Gillis:Be totally different. I got hit in the nuts recently. I was like, I think my daughter was trying to like wash a baby or like little doll out in the sink. But it was bedtime. So I'm like, come on, it's bedtime. No, no, no. So I went to grab her and she did that shit where she gripped the edge of the sink. So I had to like fucking come on. I pulled her off as I pull her off. She just three years old. She just swung back and kicked me in the nuts and I had her like this because I have to hold her away from me so she doesn't hit me. Held her up and I like it went through my head to just do full on the bed.

40:19Shane Gillis:If it were if she were a son, I would have spiked my son onto the bed. But I just gently lowered her like, oh, you little fucker, I'll be back. I was about to bounce her off the mattress. I just got hit. It's like a reaction. You hit the nuts, you're like, fuck you. But I gently laid her down. I was like, I'll be back. The smashing machine. I would have chokeslammed a three-year-old boy right through that shit. Instantly. I for real had to stop myself. I was like, no.

40:50And I knew it was coming, but I tried to move.

40:52Shane Gillis:And she's like grown. So she was like, whack. I was like, fuck. Even if you did that, somebody would be like, we understand. Oh, dude, yeah. No, man, that was close. I almost fucking, I mean, it was a bed. She would have rattled her for sure, but. For sure. If I'd spiked her, actually, she could have broke her arm. But I didn't. Once you're pairing this style, are you copying what your parents have done to you, or are you spreading the generational traumas that you experienced as a child? I hope not. I mean, you like to think you're not your parents, but then, you know, every now and then you go, fuck, I'm the exact same guy.

41:28Yeah. Like I'm my dad, you know? Yeah. You like to think you're completely different, right? And they might have thought they were different, but I don't know. I feel like I was generally just fucking ignored. No one paid attention to me. And I would just wander around in the woods. Really? Yeah. And like find like knives and stuff.

41:42Shane Gillis:No, I would just get lost all day. I don't. My brother told me this. I don't remember it at all. but like I used my like bedtime they would put me in a room and just latch a thing on the outside and be like bro see you in the morning damn so they would just lock they would lock because I knew they did it to my sister and I was always like that's so fucked up they did that to Kathleen my brother was like dude they did it to you too and I was like oh fuck they would just go full like you're done you're goodbye for the day darkness I was just the creature dude I was in a room and you're in a Somalian daycare and the windows are boarded up and the lights are off Where the fuck was that kid?

42:16Shane Gillis:I needed him to be like, where the fuck are the kids in here? Let me see this child. Yeah, that was her shit. My mom, too, she'd be like, my older brothers and my cousins there, they weren't taking a nap. She would just trap them under her legs until they fell asleep, and then they'd be like, all right, good. Just fucking put the quads on them. That's crazy. So yeah, I do way different stuff. So I didn't have any fun growing up. My parents were no fun. There was no fun. Everybody was miserable. We were all strangers in the house. Yeah. So I'm just trying to make it where if I can teach them to have fun.

42:50Yeah. Then that's a skill that they can take throughout the rest of their life and attract goodness and great things and good people. That's the plan. That feels like the ultimate. If you can have fun in any situation. True. Then you're unstoppable. Right. So that's what I'm trying to do. That's true. So we like, you know, we fucking drive around really fast in the car, listen to really loud music, dance a lot. We do coke.

43:14she's drinking and driving just three

43:21Shane Gillis:that is the one thing once you have kids and it really dawns on you like fuck dude I'm in charge of your mental well being like I'm pulling from a poisoned well I know man I'm just dipping this bucket into your brain you're like god help me please do you feel like your parents were like a lighthouse that's good that that's there because I can avoid that my parents did a lot of things really good They were just like, you know, now we have like the internet. We have like a thing like when you yell at your child for seven seconds, they make neural path. There was none of that shit. They were just like, whoop their fucking ass.

43:51Yeah.

43:52Shane Gillis:We would all go out to dinner as a family and every by like towards the end of it, it would just be me and my brothers in the car by ourselves just like chilling until everyone ate because if you acted up, you had to sit in the car. You're just sitting in a suburban by yourself. Just like, damn, this is fucking bullshit, dude. I didn't get this. That's so funny. They took y 'all out to eat. Yeah. We would go to this place.

44:11Shane Gillis:Sure, like I said, there was good stuff. It's so funny that your punishment is, son, go sit in a hot car. It was nothing, dude. Go do what Casey Anthony does to her children. That's your punishment now. Dude, I never even thought a kid could die from a hot car. Yeah, that's like a new... Who's to say if they can? These are new kids. These are weak kids, maybe. These are those peanut allergy kids. I do dry saunas every day. I'm fine. 20, 25 minutes, I'm fine at the 24-hour fitness. If anything, the baby's just activated his heat shock protein, so... it's the telomeres that is so sad dude just to forget because it's like i get it like you're just like oh fuck i didn't think about it and you come out and it's like damn it's dead nowadays the car will uh car beeps the or the car will lock you inside of it and catch on fire what is that have you see this with the cyber trucks they they they so the cyber truck has a mode where it turns it turns into a microwave and then it locks and then everybody dies oh it's like so you don't have to go through all the trouble of hooking like an exhaust thing to your car yeah i guess maybe if you like have a cold hot pocket flame my family grok is like do you have a cold hot pocket there amigo let me heat it up for you but they will lock and then you can't get out and everybody dies it keeps happening in the news nah i like the cyber truck though it's good it looks like halo i'm a big fan look that up is that true that people look like a piece of shit there's no way you can get locked in your car unless you're polish that's the old joke here about the polish guy got locked in his car what's the joke Polish people are dumb.

45:38Shane Gillis:They couldn't. Yeah, it's like a little white on white racism. I don't know any Polish people. Yeah, I don't think I really know either. It was like the first meme kind of is like Polak jokes. But it didn't really didn't really last. Well, how do you plan on doing your kids? You don't have kids. I don't have. How do you plan on doing your raising them up? Keeping them away from my parents. No.

46:05I don't know. I haven't given them much thought man I just I just definitely don't want to repeat some of the stuff yeah yeah that was taught to me uh like my my parents my parents are definitely better now right they chill out majorly yeah they chill out but then like you don't know if you've kind of adopted the things that your parents taught you or like unintentionally taught you or downloaded the shit that they've been doing their behavior until you're like under duress yeah you know when you're stressed out and then all of a sudden like you said you want to spike the baby yeah real bad she's three she's fine

46:50there was two cases huh there's two cases one was in california one in texas where they got in an accident and then the power went out in the cyber truck and they couldn't get out oh Oh, big microwave.

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48:42Shane Gillis:Men's Warehouse has over 600 locations nationwide. They are here and nearby when you're ready to love the way you look like would you rather burn or drown drown dude 100 yeah ted kennedy style yeah for sure really drown and burn alive dude drown you just pass out it's like you ever go underwater for like a little too long and you're like lightheaded yeah it's almost romantic you just get more and more lightheaded really it's chill burning alive is literally the worst of the worst but what if you like sleep burning i'm playing a little slow cooker low and slow for about 20 hours yeah sleep it ain't really no dude burning alive is like i think the worst i'd rather have probably my dick chopped off than burn alive damn have you but do i'm sorry but dude in in asia or the monks that be doing they look pretty calm self-immolation yeah yeah Yeah, but they've studied the art of chill.

49:42Shane Gillis:That's like, that's... Most people are not prepared. How would you study chill? You won't fire. You will scream a little bit. It's so funny to be on fire and be like, I don't even care. I don't care, dude. Is that what you mean? Not even real. Well, they build like temples where those guys burn themselves. Because it's just like the supreme act of like, I don't know, Buddhist chill. Yeah. It's like you can like, oh, you know, I haven't fucking, you know, I haven't jerked off in 40 years. People are like, watch this shit. Just fucking light yourself on fire. do this because it is the ultimate usually they do it to like draw attention to something yeah it's a protest yeah they don't you know they have guns over there they caught a monk recently that was uh like i think it was like only fan no it was a girl that was going up into the temple cleaning it out and i think dude was like he i think he was smashing and then she tried to extort him i was like damn that's crazy there's a plot of a nigerian film i think this is an ollywood movie you may have watched on YouTube.

50:38Shane Gillis:Damn, she tried to just like trick them? She tried to extort him and get bread out of him. I think it may have been a few of them that she was like going up there and smashing. That's a bad planet. They're monks. Yeah. They're like begging alms. Yeah. They have to hit the alms circuit hard. Like, damn, I got a fucking baby mom. But she probably knew they had. She probably knew they had some money. True. They probably have some money. Yeah. Where was this? Wherever the monks be. I don't know. They're everywhere, man. Dude, my brother was just talking to his friend who had come from, like, Thailand or whatever.

51:13And she was telling him that, like, the tourism.

51:18Shane Gillis:So, like, if you have, like, a kind of, like, a gay kid, you are from this. It's like a giant, like, victory. What the fuck? He does me. He does me. Oh, that's fucked up. He just called my kid gay. That's cool. Well, hey, hold on. Listen to this. So, if you're in Thailand. Maybe. Should I be offended? I don't know. thank you so much here's the thing if you're in thailand you have like a recognizably gay kid you turn the kid into a girl asap and your whole family's like here we go because then it's like part of that like sex tourism thing where what you do is you get a uh even if you just have like a daughter too you can do the same thing where you're like oh man she pretends she doesn't have like a husband she can be married whole family oh everything kids but then she'll go to work as like a prostitute get like an english businessman and be like yeah like i'm single bring the english businessman back to like her family and her husband will like even be there pretending to be like her brother and they just basically you get like even if you don't get knocked up they just fuck these dudes send a letter back to england to like wherever they work being like yo i'm pregnant now and if you don't want like the thailand courts coming after you for child support and like blowing up your spot because a lot of these guys are married give me like 10 g's a month and that's apparently like a huge thing over there so if you're out there just fucking having sex with hookers you could get caught up in like a dad's and that's why you do lady here's the kicker they got no ovaries true who's true but then if you fall in love that's the thing and i saw a documentary you fall in love you fall in love dude there's like they'll you bring you back to the village and like you just have to start like buying fucking shit for like the whole village whole village and it's like a huge thing for a village if you get like a slamming lady boy Everyone's like, let's go.

52:56Shane Gillis:We're all going to eat. It's going to be so nice. We just need one rich British guy. We just need one old British guy. This is the whole place. Oh, this is with lady boys. And it could be ladies, too. Oh, okay. I think lady boys over there are just popping off so hard that it's like, and that's an easy one, too, where it's like, bro, we're going to send stuff back to the family. Who's giving the prostitute a real address? True. I don't know. But here's the thing. You get these old businessmen. They'll be like, I love you. and they'll start divulging info and it's just kind of like yeah you're done here the funny thing is especially for like the custody stuff where it's like yo i'm pregnant with your child like the courts are gonna come after you unless you send me hush money apparently if you just ignore like the thailand courts can't do anything to you in london they can't like there's nothing they can do so oh you you from experience no i've never been i've never been to thailand actually when i hear people are in thailand as like grown adults i'm kind of like yeah that's the what you doing over there dude because we already got their food yeah we got the food here so we got the food it's like what do you we have elephants at the zoo we have mopeds we got mopeds that's true we even have lady boys here we got it we got the big four the big four of the economy of thailand it's you're going over there there's another itch you're trying to in my opinion else i was talking to someone recently who was in asia and they're like oh my friend was supposed to meet me over wherever they were he got his visa got messed up in thailand he's stuck there and i was like Is that what he told you?

54:21Shane Gillis:Tail and hold his time. Like, I was going to leave and my fucking visa is all fucked up. See, all these stereotypes about these countries. A man can't even go to Thailand, the Dominican Republic. DR, you can get away with the DR. You can't go to the DR without people thinking you're doing something. You can't go by yourself. That's crazy. You got to get a girlfriend just so you can do the trip. And then you break up with your girlfriend in the DR. And then you go hog wild and go crazy. Yeah. What's this? Oh, shit. This is the Thai monks. Oh, yeah. 5 ,600 videos. Damn, that guy's the man. Allegedly.

54:58Shane Gillis:Who was Seekamiskoff woman allegedly behind Thailand monks' sex blackmailing scandal? Oh, so she ran a ring. That's what it was. I heard there was a lot of meth, too. There was, like, at one point in a lot of those, whatchamacallit, in the monasteries or whatever, they, like, did a drug test, and there was, like, a couple of them where, like, everyone was just strung out on meth. They were in there just partying. yeah kind of sick i know but still oh that's what i think ayahuasca is you think ayahuasca is kind of a cult i think so i think so too dude because you hear all these people like being like yeah i've done it like 75 times like bro i thought it was the most powerful thing in the world why do you have to do it 55 i think it's just a giant party though yeah doesn't alan watts say once you get the message hang up the phone that's what i've heard so why do you pick up the phone 75 more times i think it's just chill i think you go down there again you're like a tech billionaire and you go down there and party i think it's just a big party i think so too and then people started talking about they crying on it and all the type of stuff i used to want to do it a little bit when i was on like my little mushroom journey and then after a while i was just like kept listening to stories about it i was like what do i want to cry for it is true like yeah you like shit flies out of your ass and you throw up then it's awesome it feels great and i get what they're saying but at the same time i'm like i think i could get uh there myself yeah without all the extras yeah i don't know man it's uh you think it's demons or angels you're talking to on those trips i don't know i've heard about that stuff probably talking to both you're probably talking both for real i mean we all contain both right true i don't know i've heard i have heard of like that you're talking to like extra like interdimensional entities that's a weird thing with the dmt dude people witchcraft true head

56:46Shane Gillis:no I've heard that that like yeah you're really talking to uh like entities if you do DMT there are like characters that you encounter because I distinctly remember I had like the jester it was a mean jester it was on like a black and white checkered floor saw a clear as day and then I watched this video about DMT entities that was one of them I was like whoa that's fucked up Yo. It was real. Archon. Guy was so mean to me. So fucking just laughing my face. It just like teased me the whole time. Like you're a fucking loser. And I was like, I didn't. Yeah. Just fucking bully me. I went to the astral realm and just got absolutely kicked around.

57:17He's giving you titty twisters.

57:18Shane Gillis:He was just like, you're a fucking dork. And I was like, what the fuck? I thought this was supposed to be chill. You knew a swirly and a wedgie. Like literally dude. Calling you gay. It was, it was literally, it was probably like 15 seconds of just like a jet, like a multi-headed jester on a white, black and white checkered floor being like, dude, you're a fucking loser and i was like fuck damn it sucked really fucking sucked yeah it's it wasn't that per se but if you look up there's like a the jester guy dude it's fucking bullshit yeah i'm afraid of all that yeah and honestly too it's like i feel like mushrooms are great you know you can do mushrooms i don't really i don't know you can do a lot of them you don't have to go to like the right extreme and dude i swear to god when people do it a lot it changes the way their eyes look really you see someone who does ayahuasca a lot they get this like like very relaxed like almost zombified no like they look like nick reiner like the nick reiner i never got a good let me get a good look at that guy i never got i've heard about him you see him on the red carpet with his dad they keep posting strange pictures of him maybe shit from the past no sort of but there was it was in like a black and white floor that wasn't as like lines and colors it looked just like a dude almost.

58:28You got to pull up a picture of Will Silvins. Let me see something. Nobody. All right.

58:34Shane Gillis:Who is it? This is a comic. Will Smith got the eyes. He did ayahuasca like a bazillion times as well. I feel like Aaron Rodger got some eyes. He's got to look at the eyes. If you look in the eyes and there's like, and I've known just people from like, just in my life who like have done it a lot. And it's just like, they get this, I can't explain it, man, but they get this kind of like, I don't know. It could just be me fucking freaking out. Nah, I mean. something's there's something something happened oh yeah i'm i'm and dude every time i do like a lot any like big hallucinogenic i'm always so fucking relieved when it's over that i go yeah i'm not i'm just happy for my normal waking consciousness yeah i don't ever want to leave this ever again the the the thrill of it kind of like is when you're young for real at least for me and then you start hearing all these stories about like like the matthew perry situation and all that stuff.

59:23And it's like, he was doing like oxy. So he was, I thought he was on ketamine. He got boiled like a crawdad in that hot tub. He got boiled. They do a potato. They find potatoes and carrots and shit and fucking the corn in it. He was cooking a bay leaf.

59:41Shane Gillis:Hot tub death. Hot tub death is kingly though. I'll give you that. I'd rather. Okay. Now it's like drowning to death, lighting on fire, dying in a hot tub. I might smash die in a hot tub. Especially if you're dressed up like Batman and you die in a hot tub. He was not dressed up like Batman. He would dress up like Batman all the time. I mean, they didn't release it, but I like that they keep on a full. He was a fat Batman and he got his hot tub. He died in the hot tub? He did. Yeah, he died in the hot tub. Maybe he was on ketamine, but I think he had been doing a lot of oxys, pain pills. So maybe he did take ketamine to go in a hot tub.

1:00:14Shane Gillis:I could see the allure. So you might be right. Maybe he hit that and just. He had a good life. Well, yeah, I think he did. Get high a lot. watch Batman get in the hot tub it's a sick life yeah I don't know I'm not convinced you need the last 20 years not yet of life 20 years total he went off at what 55 yeah oh no that's not bad true I'm definitely I'm definitely a strong proponent of getting out of here quick really which is why I think I'm gonna live for a long time yeah I don't think I'm gonna be here for a minute because i do not want to be really you want to do a quick one i mean nah i'm just saying like you know how life expectancy is fucking got tempting fate with that hoodie someone might come around and clock you right in the fucking head you're asking that you're that's a suicide hoodie dude dude kevin looks like he's gonna live a very long time no no life expectancy what is it now it's like i mean my grandma still i don't even know how old she is dude it's getting too high It's super high.

1:01:18You're right. Too high. I know I'm not going to be this type of old person, but there are all those old people that are just like sitting around waiting to go. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like they just don't leave the room or don't leave the house. And it's like, bro, I don't want to. Yeah.

1:01:31Shane Gillis:Well, that's and that's where I think the hallucinogenics come in. Because once you're in that stage, then I think it should be like you have the home care worker and it's just nonstop. Just like feed me mushrooms. Let me watch Lord of the Rings till I memorize all the lines. Yeah. Take my money. I don't care. Take my money. Yeah. I have two fake internet girlfriends. That'll be chill. And we'll have VR, so it won't be as bad for us. I can be posted up on the Autoblow. Going to the machine. Autoblow, Oculus, TRT. Just hook yourself up into the code. Fuck it. For real. I just want to see the falling rain.

1:02:04Shane Gillis:Yeah, just be in an Oculus. I'll be in a nursing home. I'll be, like, seeing my family. Like, oh, hey, guys. What are you guys up to? Oh, man. Remember when we went to the fucking mountains?

1:02:16that would rock you're still racist though what do you mean you're still well when everyone gets really old they become very racist true i've been in old folks homes they are they are wild but here's the thing it's pre-civil rights you know they go nasty but but here's the question though

1:02:29Shane Gillis:here's the question now we have i i would say almost for the first time ever um especially for white people we have elder kind of like liberals which that wasn't really a thing I feel like so you see the video if you watch the video of that I keep hearing the fucking guy's name the young youtuber who like surely we ain't stop saying his name we ain't put no light on motherfucking he already dude his videos at 10 million bro I know but you think you think yeah man but no there was one there was one I think it was at the leering center I swear to god where he went up and there was just like old white lady who was like ice there ice do not enter the building like she started like she was like a car alarm just going off like do not and let these men in the building ice is here so like that lady's going to be in a nursing home one day and just be like i think you're as cool as any you know what i mean she'll be doing like uh more of the soft-handed stuff right like a jamaican lady and just be like i love you so much can i touch your hair can i touch you're beautiful i should be wiping your ass my queen my goddess I'm just going to be it to be a white lady trying to make a thing like I'm good baby eat my food I don't deserve it eat it all so that could be the day that could be it I think that's going to be it the future is looking pretty bright actually it's looking good to me I don't know I think so things could be worse we hit the lottery being born in America we got a fresh We got, dude, oil.

1:04:06Shane Gillis:Oil's booming right now. Yep. Oil's going to be killing it. I mean, everyone, look, we're a fucking empire, dude. Like, we are an empire at the end of the day. Oil is definitely a fucking empire. We got to bust some moves. Russia's busting fucking moves. And China's busting moves. It's time America busts the fucking move. It's unfortunate. I wish they didn't have to do this, but we are an aging empire, and it's time we strike out. Just, dude, it was one guy. Venezuela. Easy. Now, the rest of Latin America. I called this, by the way, years, not that specifically, but like Latin America, the cartels.

1:04:36Shane Gillis:Like, dude, I was like years ago, I was like, we're going to hammer down to those cartels. I feel like. I can say to anything. I feel like one guy in dude's first year. I feel like if this, you know, this plays out the way that they want to play out by his fourth year, he about to be going crazy. Who, Maduro? Trump. Oh, Trump. How many years in are we? Two. This is two? Well, the year just started, right? I think he'll be dead by the summer. You think he'll be dead by the summer? Yeah, I think he's going to drop dead. Really? Yeah, like a frog on a lily pad. He's just going to drop. You think he's just going to?

1:05:12He's going to eat his last fly and just fall in the pond. Somebody told me he's going to try to be president of another country. I thought that was crazy.

1:05:21Shane Gillis:Yeah, he's old. He's getting there. You're starting to see the way. It's like Biden was so old that you're like, dude, this guy is fucking getting around pretty good. But yeah. they're really good at creating problems to then act like they're fixing the problem. Like that's what the bureaucratic state does. So like what they're going to keep doing is letting immigrants in on quote unquote accident and be like, but you can sign up for ice and help us get rid of the problem. So they're employing people with a problem. They have to create problems. Yeah. Then they go, we fixed it. It's like you fucking caused it.

1:05:50Yeah. That's another scam. And they did just shut ice. Just shot a lady in the fucking face today. And right before this, like a hour ago, I think it was in... Hisselto. I think it was like Minnesota. It might have been Minnesota. No. Where a lady was just in her car and an ICE agent kept pointing a gun at her. And she didn't know what to do. And then the ICE agent reached his huge gut across the grill and fired four times into her face. And then the car took off like 100 miles an hour into a building. Oh, yeah. Like right before that. And she's a U.S. citizen, not an illegal immigrant. They killed her?

1:06:22Yes.

1:06:22Shane Gillis:No, the accident actually killed her. Oh, wait. She dodged that shit. She drove into a building. To be fair, dude, with the police footage, did they show the lady reaching at all? I have not seen the footage. I saw it on the way in here. Yeah, that's it. And again, I don't know what happened. I'm not proposing to, you know, I know what happened. But that police footage when they're like, and sometimes it's obviously pretty terrible. But then there's times where it's like, like I knew someone who was in a car. They were a cop. And like a 12-year-old just went boom, boom, boom, boom, fired into the car.

1:06:50Shane Gillis:And they came out of the car and fucking killed the kid. Damn. Which is fucked. but it's like do you ever get a gunshot into your car like you're not like to be like you have to like think clearly and it's like it's kind of hard to do whenever i see the police stuff i'm like i don't know man sometimes it is bad when you see it you're like damn that's fucking dude i think if i was a cop like i'm a pussy i would empty a full clip every day um first sight i'm just emptying mags like on like a bird flies a little too quickly in front of me i'm just firing at it I'd be terrified, you know? I'd be killing dogs that are running at me.

1:07:23Yeah, I don't know. I mean, again, I don't know what happened.

1:07:25Shane Gillis:I'm not trying to say. We got the video. Let me see.

1:07:31Okay. Oh, faded. We shot. Damn.

1:07:34Shane Gillis:Yeah. Oh, it is Minneapolis. Oh, man. Okay. Oh, hey, hey. Oh. We shot her. Wait, I didn't even see it. Yeah, so the car takes off once she gets shot. because obviously she slumped over the wheel and yikes i didn't even see it though i'm so fast well that just in um i don't know i don't know sorry hey let's take some uh where we had time last on this shot an hour or two can we just cut it out no no it's fine you're fine we never we never really can you edit me out of the podcast all right we got some actually this is from our premium subscribers we got some questions a little q a action uh here you go oh shit really this is sick whoa okay i'll start i'll start it off i gotta read um i actually this kind of pissed me off it was like matt why is your wife so hot but you just look like a potato i've never seen someone with their eyes so close together and you suck a guitar and are gay i hate you it's from uh it's from nick That's nice.

1:08:41Shane Gillis:Syracuse. That's a perk we give to our premium subscribers. That's very nice. Yeah. I don't think my eyes are that close together, honestly. But, I mean, what do you want? So, that was my question. There you go. Okay. Hey, first time Patreon subscriber and huge fan. Graduating from high school this year, which is something I've been really excited to accomplish. At least until my older brother died. He was riding a motorcycle on 95 with his girlfriend on the back. A tractor trailer swerved to avoid a broken down car, and the back of it literally smeared them along the divider. There were hardly any remains of their bodies, so we had to cremate all the pieces together and split the ashes evenly, which is a bummer since my older brother barely liked this girl.

1:09:23It would have been beautiful if they had been deeply in love or whatever, but they fought all the time. My brother, and I can say this now that he's dead, hit her on several occasions. Why is this so good?

1:09:35Shane Gillis:That's our premium subscribers here. Come on. Oh, yeah. Okay. But anyway, hold on. She cheated on him with her ex-boyfriend in the army. But anyway, I guess my question is that with my brother dead, that leaves me as an only child. I've never been an only child, and now I'm worried that I might fall into that bratty only child personality just before college and won't be able to make any friends. Do you think I should maybe join a fraternity? Did you write this? That's from our premium subscribers. That's so funny. That's from our premium subscribers. That's so funny. That's a real conundrum. I don't know what I was telling this.

1:10:16That's so good. I thought I was going too dark on this show, and then you hand me this. I'm like, oh, I'm fine.

1:10:22Shane Gillis:I'm fine. It's just a perk we give to our premium subscribers. Thank you on Patreon for making this. I'm a very funny person. You don't have to answer. That's a very uncomfortable question. Do you have anything? I think there's one more. Yeah, I got a book. The producers cherry picked these. baroosa's been cherry picking these all right lady dog here whoop whoop just wanted to say thanks for all the laughs my boyfriend got me hooked to y 'all's podcast anyway i'll get to the point i know girls have a bad reputation for circling around what they're trying to say with unnecessary details so i'll try to spell y 'all spare y 'all lol but i'm in a bit of pickle the whole thing started with my boyfriend when me and my boyfriend got drunk and watched porn together it was his idea so I let him pick the video since I'm not much of a porn girly and he started off pretty vanilla basically like girl scissoring and whatnot we started hooking up with it on in the background and it was pretty hot but then the video was over it was like two minutes and i just clicked the next video again two girls and continue giving my man a bj and things got and things were all good but then in the video a short fat black guy came into the picture

1:11:42all right a short fat black guy came into the picture and had i'm not lying the biggest dick I've ever seen. It was like two Coke cans stacked on top of each other. And so anyway, we started having sex and the video really did something to me. And seeing those women just being totally filled up with this guy's mouth. Come on, man.

1:12:08All right. All right. All right. I just want to reiterate as I'm reading, this is somebody else's words. This is not Kevin saying this shit. That's fair. That's fair. All right. Somebody clip this shit up. All right. Your audio listeners might not know you're reading. You're going to have Nick Shirley on your head. I got to start talking slower. I'm licking my lips. It's crazy.

1:12:40All right. Whatever. So these women are totally being filled up with this guy's massive penis. And my boyfriend kept saying how wet I was, glancing uneasily at the screen. And so I just pulled him into me, telling him to fuck me or whatever. But then I don't know if it was desperation or what. But my boyfriend, I guess, trying to go along with started dirty talking to me. but in like a black guy voice or whatever saying stuff like you like this big ass black dick girl and like oh god damn this pussy's slicking in a car watch parking lot this pussy this pussy's slicking in a car watch parking lot

1:13:28hurry up and come girl so i can get back to doing my podcast stuff like that and honestly i was kind of mortified but the video was so good that i actually came but now my boyfriend thinks he has to talk in like a black accent during and i've even noticed he's been dressing different too did i like accidentally turn him black which is which if so i'm okay with that but i just don't know how to bring it up because it seems kind of

1:14:01Shane Gillis:weird he's asian by the way thank you for our premium subscribers i don't know i don't have any thoughts those questions are both a little too complicated for myself i didn't know yo you're writing these no i swear i'd ask the producer selected them

1:14:22Shane Gillis:perks you get i mean i wish we i had more i can't really tackle both are too heavy you know for me to comfortably tackle he's asian by the way

1:14:35Shane Gillis:well guys i can't thank you enough that was uh you guys are great thank you man thank you you guys have anything you want to plug or whatever oh go ahead kevin what am i doing when does this come out i don't know probably like tomorrow okay i'm in dc over the weekend DC Improv with Chris Redd. And then follow me on Instagram, Kevin Isopropanol. Yeah, that's it. At Ben Avery is good on social media. I got a podcast with my brother, Jace Avery, and Devin Costa called Lemon Party. Let's go. Patreon.com slash Lemon Party. And I do live stream sometimes, BenAvery.live. I go live once a week. If you want to sign up on my website, you'll get notified when I go live.

1:15:21Shane Gillis:Hell yeah. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Matt. Appreciate you, buddy. Later. Thank you. Cool. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane's secret podcast on Spotify. Do it.

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