The Deuce, Presented by Allstate: Clint Dempsey on USMNT Expectations, Christian Pulisic's Revival, and the Battle at Striker

24:55And if you have three, I think that's the true question to ask. Like, who's going to be that other person that goes into that role? Is it Gio? Is it Tillman? Is it Zendejas? Like, I don't know. I'm not there. Is it Aaronson to see what selection? Or do you go with more of a winger? Is it way up top and they're playing in a three? But then do you lose your width that you're getting with Dest that you're getting with Anthony Robinson on the wing. So it's a lot of things to figure out. Yeah, Zendaya, it's great to see him in the squad. Got fleeting minutes against Senegal. This is such a nerve point for this team.

25:34I mean, Potch has talked with a flourish. You could play Gio Reyna or Malik Tillman in there, which seems almost, I mean, an enormous risk to build into your own squad. If injury, God forbid, or an accumulation of first round yellow cards do go down, We're kind of in a hole of our own making. But one play I want to mention quickly, because it's so bloody human, Sebastian Berhalter, 25 years old, from Vancouver of MLS. Look, Greg Berhalter, our last manager, it's his son. And we love this in the US. This is what we do. Biblical lineage in football. The Reyners, the Bradleys, now the Berhalters.

26:11I found it really moving, Clint, hearing Greg Berhalter talk about what it felt for him to see his son get called up. This is beautiful. He said, I never could have picked him. But what I know is everything is in the place it's supposed to be. It's his turn. It's his time now. I mean, it is amazing to watch Sebastian seize this moment. And it is true, right? The world would have gone mad if Greg Berhalter had picked his own son. For sure, man. I mean, it goes without saying, I think that's something that Michael Bradley dealt with in terms of how quickly he got into the U.S. squad, but eventually showed his worth and was a big player for us.

26:50But, yeah, it's something that you're always going to have to deal with. And it's one of those things that any dad is going to be proud to see their son represent their country and play in a World Cup. There's no greater honor than helping your kids try to accomplish their dreams. You know what I'm saying? So, hats off. Hey, you never know, man. Obviously, I wish and pray for that, but they got to go out and get it, man. It's on them. I can't do it for them. So I would love it. We'd be having another conversation down the road and to add to that lineage, but we still got a lot of time to wait.

27:23We'll see. You got to go out and get it. That is a truth of life that surpasses football. Look, we've reveled in our strengths. We have to touch upon some of our challenges, most of which revolve around stopping the goals. You keep saying your mantra, nine leaked in the last three games. Clint, you've got quite strong opinions on that number, right? Yeah, I mean, that's crazy, right? I mean, we talked about it the other day on the postgame, trying to trust the process. And it's tough to trust that process because you know that you need a good goal differential if it comes to that to get out of the group.

27:59Hopefully we're not in that situation. And you know what? If we're scoring five goals and the other team are scoring four every game and it's like PSG versus Bayern Munich, all right, I'll take it if we're winning games. But to go far, you're going to have to tighten the ship there. in terms of what you're doing in the back. And we talked about the continuity between the main goalkeeper and the two center backs or three center backs. There just hasn't been enough reps there. And what's that look like going forward? Who are there going to be those players? For sure, you got Chris Richards that goes in there.

28:33And you think Tim Ream now, because he's the captain, is probably going to go in that position. Then you also need someone with pace that's around him. And we saw a good option in Freeman in terms of what he was able to do. the other day. And he also is good with his feet. So I don't know. There's a few things we're going to have to see a little bit more of. Yeah, I mean, we've got to talk about these defenders. Potch picked a whopping 10 defenders, which shows you that he too. That's the area of concern for him, the back line. You mentioned Tim Ream, 38 years old. He is the father time of American football, now of Charlotte in MLS.

29:09He's a lion in winter. Potch, as you know, this week made him captain. I loved him. He's an incredible human being. He's so smart. Watching the squad and talking to them, the young players, they definitely see him as some kind of wise unk. He's definitely a figure in that locker room who has been established by Pochettino as his guy. But on the field, as good a passer as he is, there is a lack of mobility. It is going to be the first point of attack any half-decent opposing coach is going to zero in on. I mean, that is the place that any opponent is going to test and probe. And you said yesterday, making him captain and not Tyler Adams, that means he's going to get the start.

29:50So, Clint, we need leadership on this team. This team cries out for a leader. Is it so crucial that we'd willingly make just a self-inflicted area of vulnerability or am I seeing this all wrong? There was a good spell where we went with that back three and it seemed to be working. And then you saw, you know, Belgium and Portugal where we went away from that. And it didn't work so well, right? That's part of the last three games that got us to the number of goals that we're at now. So I don't know. I like what he gives you when he's on the ball. I like his leadership in terms of his experience and being able to talk to the guys and organize and position people.

30:28But to your point, he's not as quick as he once was. and at times that can get exposed, especially from teams like a Senegal that have a lot of pace. It's going to be very interesting to see what they're going to do. I mean, you mentioned the other massive intangible, Chris Richards. To me, because of the back line, arguably the most important player on this team, fresh off becoming a European champion with Crystal Palace, straight out of Alabama, our best defender right now by a country mile. Such a presence, You know, growing so much as a leader too, once Mark Gahey left Palace for Manchester City.

31:06He's got ligament injuries to recover from. I speak to his agent, keep saying he's going to be fine. He's going to be fine. You know, he was in the squad for Crystal Palace for the European final, didn't need to play. The difference in this backline with Chris Richards in it and without Chris Richards in it, how would you describe it? It's a huge difference because of what he gives you defensively, but also what he gives you going forward on set pieces. He's someone that can score big goals and big moments. We saw that in Gold Cup. And that's what we've kind of been our bread and butter when you think about in years past.

31:39We've been teams that have been dangerous on set pieces. So it would be a big loss not to have him. All I can say is tape them ankles up. That's what I had to deal with throughout my career. And kind of once you start taping them, you never stop, right? That's just what you have to deal with. you do lose a little bit of mobility in terms of like how you manipulate the ball in certain movements because of the, the horseshoe and hill locks that they do with the, with the tape. It kind of restricts you, but Hey, whatever you got to do to get you out there on the pitch. And I can't wait to see him back.

32:09Dr. Clint Dempsey is in the house, but the way the difference to me, I don't like to be hyperbolic. It's like with Chris Richardson without, it's like the San Antonio Spurs with Wemby and the San Antonio Spurs without Wemby. There you go. It's slightly hyperbolic, but you get it. Yeah, I get it. I like that reference, man. Shout out to the San Antonio Spurs getting to the finals. We're going to touch upon the goalkeeper position. Historically, the place of strength in our US squads. Currently, it's a challenge. There's a lot of uncertainty that reigns here less than two weeks before the opening game of the World Cup which tells you all you need to know.

32:44Straight up battle between two MLS Matts. Matt Freese of New York City, Matt Turner of New England. I spoke to a former a US keeper last week. I asked him who he'd choose. He said that it's kind of pick your poison, isn't it? He framed it as the choice between the better fit keeper tactically or the more experienced one. Knowing that Matt Turner had an excellent 2022 World Cup, both are capable of wonder. Both have had a number of blips. How do you separate them? It's a difficult one. I mean, it definitely hasn't helped Turner's situation to have five put on you in the Belgium game. And some of the, you know, mishaps in MLS as of late, but it was good to see him get strong first half performance a lot of big saves I thought especially the kick save from Sadio Mane That went out for a corner and it's good to have more confidence there it looks like it's probably gonna be Matt freezes spot and you know even with the third keeper and The timing of coming out on that miles Robertson, you know error in terms of passing back was was not a good look to have that be your first cap but hey things happen you grow from it you get better but I'm not a keeper you need to ask Tim Howard one of those guys like what their thoughts on it but for me there's not much really separating them but look Pochettino sees them in training who does better who does more and I hope he picks the right one One thing that is inarguable and what I don't like about this moment we're in Clint We have no idea right now who's starting.

34:20I'm sure Pochettino does. I actually do think it's going to be Matt Freeze, as you've just said. But they've had almost no opportunity to get reps and chemistry with their centre-backs. Tim Howard used to always say it's the crucial foundation for any international team is the relationship between the goalkeeper and their centre-backs, the communications, the trust, the chemistry. Whoever it is, they're going to have next to not. It's a situation where they didn't have to qualify for this World Cup. So you weren't put in that position where you're back against the wall to see who are your guys when it's crunch time that don't fold, that don't bend, that don't break.

34:55You know what I mean? We didn't get to see that. You have Copa America where it was kind of like 2018. It was a huge step back, being their first host country to not get out of the group, right? Two years from a World Cup. Then you have a coach fired, a new coach comes in, CONCACAF Nations League, losing to Panama again, our bogey team. And it could be what we see in the World Cup in terms of how some teams deal with this, how they set back, difficult to break down, catch us on the counter. We struggle with teams that kind of do those things. So it's interesting to see how that group stage is going to go in terms of how those teams play.

35:32But by not having those moments of our best 11, And like even in Gold Cup, we got the grit back into the team, but we didn't have the quality. Like we were winning games, but it was like, all right. So it's good, but it wasn't. It was empty calories. It was empty calories and it was empty stadiums. You know, not a lot of people were watching those games. So you had the five games where it's like, okay, things are starting to look better with Uruguay, Paraguay, Australia, Ecuador and Japan. And then you had Belgium and Portugal. Like, oh, hell, here we go again, right? So now we have Senegal and we're excited, but we talked about it in the postgame.

36:07When it was 2-2 around the 60th minute, were you a little nervous? I was. How are you going to say I was really confident? Because if we'd have lost that game, I think it would have been a little bit of a different narrative. We'd have been excited about the goals, but it's like, what's going on? Why aren't we getting Ws? I mean, it's so funny, man. I mean, you've just narrated the whole arc of our kind of Mauricio Pochettino 2024 to 2025 cycle. So let's talk about him. The big hire. Poch has a massive reputation, mostly from Tottenham Hotspur. He took a young squad and moulded them with alchemy to perform wonders.

36:48I'd say he's not exactly embraced the job with full passion, is how I'd probably articulate it since arriving October 2024. he never moved to Atlanta as he was said to in his opening press conference he's kept the media kind of Heisman them at arm's length he's not exactly embraced the opportunity to use his Spanish to speak to the massive second and third generation with a kind of charm offensive he's battled openly with Christian Pulisic during the Gold Cup and when you speak to the players most of them will admit he's been quite a distant manager compared to Greg Berhalter who came before them he's talked openly also about what he doesn't like about our American football culture how do you handicap him so far what do you make of pochettino's performance as u.s manager i mean i think he was put into a tough situation but you know when when you when you agree to do a job you would have done your research to make sure what all is going to be in front of me what what all i'm going to deal with and you feel confident with hopefully everybody makes their you know the saying make your next move your best move and hopefully he was thinking that when he took this job.

37:54Great opportunity to represent a country that was a host country and a World Cup and a chance to do something special. But I think when he got in there, and it's the same with, I think, a lot of soccer higher-ups, not a lot of these people played the game. Not a lot of those people that you're talking to and you're trying to be on a common ground with about what you need, I don't think it's probably there. You know what I mean? And also, you're dealing with situations of youth development and what's wrong. And there's just certain things that are kind of not what they would need to be or not how they're done in other countries that probably thrown them off.

38:32Also, the depth of the team, the quality of the team, and trying to get rid of that complacency and shake things up. He's done that. He shook things up. But ultimately, he's going to be graded on what he does in the World Cup, right? CONCACAF Nations League was not a success. Gold Cup, it was good to see them get to the final, get some grit back into this team. But none of that matters. What matters is the World Cup, how you do in the group stage, getting out, inspiring the country, and trying to do something special. So you can't really give a grade. You have to wait and see how this plays out.

39:06And look, there's a lot of optimism in my eyes because of what I see in the attack and the hunger in this team. but also there's a lot of worrying things in terms of the way in which we can see goals. You just nailed it. I mean, ultimately, Potch has kept repeating trust the process. But what you just said is the truth. We're going to find out if Potch is a big manager who's dropped down to a smaller program and will lift this up to his level like some kind of Argentinian Rick Pitino at St. John's or if it's more like Bill Belichick at North Carolina where he's just going to plummet to our sullying level.

39:40But you said it, Poch's era, and it feels like it is over. The Milan rumours, he's made it very clear to the English press he cannot wait to return to a European club team. But he's going to be judged by us, how he does at this World Cup. We won't remember any of this stuff. We won't remember the emails. We won't remember the Pulisic conflict. We won't remember Diego, any of this stuff. if he wins four or five games, he's going to be a god, right? But if he loses at fourth, the first knockout game in a round of 32, he's going to be more seen as kind of a mercenary and that we need to get an American coach who understands our players back in the next cycle.

40:21Everything is going to be, the narrative will be retrospectively kind of stuck on him, right, by this World Cup performance. Yeah, for sure, right? You're only as good as your next game and you're only as good as how you perform in big competitions. Not only is it going to affect the players in terms of their legacy and how they do here, it's going to affect the coaches and how they do as well, right? So anything you do on the highest level is always a chance to take your legacy to another level. And hopefully when we have those water breaks, he's got that laptop out, showing them everything, getting them right, so that they can go on the game and do their thing.

40:58But we've got to wait and see. I don't know what he's showing them I don't know if he's showing them he got the new high score on Candy Crush if he's showing them like you know some lolcats I don't know what floats Pochettino's boat but God bless we are in this now and I pray for it but it's time Clint we're in group D D for do this we're facing 40th in the world Paraguay in our first game Los Angeles June 12th pragmatic collective Australia 27th in the world in Seattle on the 19th God, I can't wait for that game. And then closing up against quite frighteningly talented 22nd in the world, Turkey in LA on the 25th.

41:39We laughed with relief, many fans in the United States when this draw came out. But so did each of our opponents who were psyched, honestly, that they didn't draw Brazil or France or England. And they got us. Clint, tell us how this is going to go game for game. How many points are we going to get? I mean, I'll tell you one thing. never laugh at who you get because it might come back and bite you in the butt. Think about the group that we had in Copa America. Yeah, everybody thought we were going to beat Panama. That didn't happen. We got the red card, lost that game. You know, same situation, conquered Cav Nations League in the semifinal there.

42:14So who are we to be so boastful and to laugh? So I'm always kind of one of those people that stay pretty level, don't get too high, don't get too low. And what I saw from those friendlies is they were tight games. They were scrappy games. They were fighting people getting stuck in. It wasn't like your normal friendlies that you saw. You could see that the Paraguay and Australia were using it as a way to what it's going to be like in the World Cup, not knowing if they were going to get them picked in the group stage, but in terms of playing on American soil and that experience. Right. Like that, if you think in the past, like Confederations Cup was a perfect example of that.

42:50Getting acclimated to the stadiums, the environment, what's it going to be like in terms of the conditions, the weather and what have you. And then Turkey, they're not going to be an easy team either, right? So I just feel like every game is going to be tight in this group stage. And it's the small margins that are going to make the biggest difference. And you need to have a good goal differential and you need to get wins. And I just don't think it's going to be as easy as everybody thinks, but I'm still optimistic about us getting out of this group.

43:21When I hear the Clint Dempsey say the word easy, my mind goes back to 2010 when England drew their group, which we were in. And one of the tabloids spelt out easy, E for England, A for Algeria, S for Slovenia. And then they use the Y for Yanks. And we all know we all know what happened to them. Right, Clint? Yeah, I mean, we ended up drawing that game, which to them probably felt like a loss because the way the format was in past World Cups, it's like if you didn't get three points from your first game in the group stage, you knew you had a mountain to climb. You knew you couldn't lose it. A draw still keeps you alive.

44:00But to lose that first game, you need things to kind of fall into place where you need other people to kind of help you out as you start going into those other games, especially the last game. So for them, even though it was a draw, it probably felt like a loss and for us even though it was a draw it felt like a win because on paper you know we talk about paper they they had teams that are playing at bigger clubs and doing bigger things but we had a lot of fight in that team that's a team that also got to the final of the confederations cup in terms of our u.s team and we were a team that if you got punched in the mouth we came back and i think we showed that uh not only in confederations cup but also uh in that world cup amen god may we show that fight in 2026 let's go through the games um paraguay can we get some prediction australia turkey what are we going to do i mean all those games i'm thinking like like 1-0 2-1 uh very tight one goal game difference either drawl or you know sneaking out victories uh that's that's how i'll see it play out um i think it's important uh depends like how this Germany game goes, what we see from that, if it continues like what we saw against Senegal, then look, my hopes are going to be up there and be high.

45:15But if we can seed another two or three goals, I'm going to be like, I don't know how I'm going to think going into the group stage. Obviously, it's all fresh slate for everybody as you go into those first games. But these send-off games are important. They get you in a rhythm. They get you in some confidence. And I think it was huge for people like Desk getting that goal. Pepe being a part of the two goals that were created in the first half. For Bolligan showing, hey, I'm still scoring here. You know what I'm saying? Christian, you need those type of things, right? To kind of spur your team on.

45:51Now we need a little bit more confidence in the defense. I think we beat Paraguay. I think we drew against Australia. I think we may lose by Turkey. God, as long as we keep the turkey game close and we can still believe in ourselves, we can go into that second in the group, into the group stage, wide open water, and then the challenges begin. You know what I'm worried about, though? I'm worried about the yellow card situation because of the hostility, the fighting that we saw in the friendlies. That's only going to be escalated or elevated as you get into the World Cup. That's something that I'm going to keep in the back of my mind in terms of yellow cards because obviously if you get two, you miss the next game.

46:29Thank God we've got so many cool heads on this team, like Weston McKinney, Tim Weyer, Seginio Dest. I've got no worries about overreaction and just getting fully, fully stuck in. Clint, this US team, it is remarkable to me. They have won a single World Cup knockout game in our entire nation's history. That was back in 2002. There's an extra knockout game in this massive new World Cup field. We've got a round of 32. what is success for this team what do we have to achieve to say this was a successful American World Cup performance? I mean first of all when you think of the knockout game situation I was part of two of those and we lost in overtime and it hurt against Ghana and Belgium side that was really good but yeah I feel like the tournament doesn't start until the round of 32 I don't think the group stage is exciting as it used to be but there's still a lot of big things like three teams can get through exactly yeah exactly eight eight of the 12 teams right there's 12 groups eight of the third place teams get through you can essentially draw three games and get through exactly you know what i'm saying so i think that takes some of the excitement out of it some of the quality out of it uh in in my eyes but yeah get to the round of 32 if you get to the the the round of 16 to me i'm going to count that as a knockout round game because that's what it traditionally would have been in terms of my mindset.

47:56And if they get to the lead eight or the quarterfinals, then all right, that's more than what I've done. That's back to what we saw in 2002 when US was playing against Germany. And that's what we need to be doing. That's the next level. Quarterfinals is the mark of success. I agree. I think we need to win a knockout game. I'd like to say we should get out the round of 16-2. We really, really should. One important question I've got to ask quickly. We wilt against European opponents. This is the oddest reality for this team. We have lost eight straight games against European teams. I've asked Tyler Adams why.

48:36I've asked Brendan Aronson why that happens. You know, how it happens. And they both said they have no idea. You've stepped onto the field with big European opponents. You know, we've talked about that 1-1 win against England in 2010, the Belgian Agony loss 2014. Can you describe the mental experience and what you think we need to get over the hunt with in 2026? Yeah, I mean, you know, beating Italy away from home on their soil, having those type of games. You talk about we tied Italy in 2006. That is the team that went on to win that World Cup. tying England in 2010, tying Portugal in 2014. So we have the quality and the ability.

49:23It's just you've got to be put in more of those situations to right that wrong, right, and get comfortable with playing against those top teams and sometimes even going to where they are and playing them in their backyard, right? I think that's what makes you go out on the pitch and not have fear. It's what you're playing against the players that you play week in and week out at the club level. when you're in Europe playing in some of the biggest leagues, like the Premier League, like La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Serie A. So I think that's what you need. And all it takes is one result against a big team like that.

49:57And it's like, OK, this is something we can do. It's nothing new. You know what I mean? You just go out there and get comfortable with the uncomfortable. It's like Arsenal, that hex they've been in for so long. You can't win a title or know how to until you win a title. We can't beat a European team until we actually go and do it. We talked yesterday about one of the things we love that we saw yesterday. For the first time in a long time, the spirit of these boys, the energy, the happiness. Again, it's been so long. We need that whenever this team have done well. 2014, 2002, 1994. It's that player spirit that's been one of the greatest drivers.

50:36But the other intangible, we've talked about it all year. the fans optimism has been in such short supply in this cycle around this team it's often felt so small small crowds little aura little noise pulling this together clint this is the chance to change all of that right to write themselves into american sporting law this world cup is honestly the chance to undo all the negative dynamics of the last two cycles one moment can change all of this then we need it so badly for the fans right yeah i mean you can't expect the fans to just be like, we're going to go out and be excited about a team that we're not excited about.

51:13You have to inspire them. You have to show them things that they relate with, like hard work, slide tackling, chasing down lost causes, scoring goals, taking players on, getting them out of their seat. That's what fans want. They want a team that they can cheer for, talk trash to other teams, like, hey, we're going to beat y 'all. Y 'all better watch out. You know, that's part of it, having that confidence in your team that they're going to go out there and win and back you up from your trash talking that you're doing. Right. So, look, I saw some good things from the game against Senegal in terms of in the attack and those moments and getting those fans out of their seat.

51:53Hopefully we see more in the Germany game, but we've got to be better at the back. But you've got to give them a reason to get out of their seats. So you've got to give them the reason they want to go and spend their hard-earned money to go to these games, to buy your jersey, to watch you on the television, to, you know, to cheer you on. I mean, that's what it's all about. So let me end with two questions, Clint. What is the positive? What's the biggest thing that gives you hope about this 26 that you understand from the inside that good World Cup teams have that separate them from mediocre ones that you've seen in this team?

52:29I mean, I'm an attacking player. So I'm going to gravitate towards the goals that we can score and the danger that we have on this team. Chris Richards can score all set pieces. Weston McKinney, set pieces. Wade can get you assists, get you goals. Tess can do the same thing. Anthony Robertson can get you assists on the left wing. Christian Pulisic, goals and assists. Pepe, goals and assists. Balligan, goals and assists. I mean, you just have a lot of dangerous. Tillman. You have a lot of players that are dangerous that are on this team that can get goals. and if you are able to get goals, man, that's how you win games, man.

53:03So I'm excited from what I see in the attack in third. We just need to tighten things up defensively. But the goals that we're able to score and the different players that can do it and assist, that's what gives me hope. Tyler Adams banging one in from 40 yards. There we go. There we go. I can feel it. I can see it. I can taste it now. Before I ask my last question, Clint, I want to thank again our friends at Allstate for bringing all this to life and making it possible. Visit allstate.com, call a local agent today, see how much you can save. To my question, after Sunday's show, we did our post-match breakdowns.

53:42A lovely comment underneath from GFOP at No Limits Diego, who wrote in our YouTube comments, oh my God, Clint's mentality is elite. I couldn't agree more. Now, if you were in that locker room before the first game of this World Cup at SoFi, if you were going to speak to this unit before they walk out to represent our nation on home turf, what would you say? I'm not one of those rah-rah guys, you know what I'm saying? Going to be in the locker room and trying to pump people up. I'm more to read body language, look at people in their eyes and kind of see if they're ready for it or not. I mean, I think it's easy to be brave in the locker room.

54:18But for me, it's when you're in the tunnel. As for me, when you're crossing the line, national anthem, and in the huddle, looking people in the eyes and seeing what their mentality is, seeing if they're nervous, seeing if they're focused, seeing if they're ready, and going out there and leading by example. because what's all the talk if there's no action? If you're not going to get stuck in, you're not going to get in the 50-50 challenges, you're not willing to get your nose broke, you're not willing to sacrifice everything to win, then the rah-rah ain't for nobody. It's not going to do any good.

54:52So, yeah, in college maybe it did a little bit more some of the motivational speeches and stuff like that. But for me, you put the work in through training. You know what's at stake. you're playing in a world cup it's it's going to be part of your legacy but it's like go out there and do it man stop talking about it be about it that's that's just me that's that's how i focus that's how i operated as a captain as a leader i'm not saying it's the best not saying it's the worst it's just how i did it and and motivational speeches that's that's not for me clint dempsey you have both just dissed motivational speeches and then i think given one of the top three greatest American footballing motivational speeches of all time?

55:34I don't know about all that, but man, I hope the US do their thing, bro. You know, just for my kids to be inspired, other kids around the country, 94 World Cup, it made me believe that I could do it. And before that, I didn't know if it was possible until I saw people from where I'm from doing it and being successful, getting out of the group, beating Colombia like what we saw in 94. or the professional league coming about because of it. I'm hoping that we're not waiting every four years for the needle to move for the game of soccer, right? And by them capturing this moment, man, it would just be huge for our progression and maybe getting to that level of, why can't we ever get to the finals of a World Cup?

56:16Let's do some big things. Why not us? I mean, again, Morocco, 2022. You know, Iceland in the Euros. Greece in the Euros. why not us like Naz said why shoot the breeze about it when you could be about it that's essentially what Clint Dempsey is dropping right now right yeah bro I mean well I say nothing comes from sleeping but a dream so hey wake up and go get it man that's what we want to see wake up and go get it Clint Dempsey you are a magic man I can't wait to share this journey with you thank you for sharing all that you have with us so far I can't thank you enough man yes sir appreciate you brother Tell us in the comments how you think we're going to do.

57:00Go, go USA. Big love and courage.