In short
Peace and purpose after prison; rejecting “BS” (fear, street validation, toxic circles) and focusing on discipline, health, and actionable mindset. The episode centers on Wallow267’s book Yes to You, No to Them.
Guests
Wallow267 (Mr. Wallow 267), New York Times bestselling author, TEDx speaker, podcaster and speaker. He discusses his past committing crimes for acceptance, later reframing his purpose in prison as “the push” for others. Mick Unplugged hosts the conversation.
Key claims
Winning requires discipline (“winning ain’t for everybody”); social media and news sell fear; protect your peace (naps, routines); audit and limit your circle; move in silence and let results speak; “no” is a complete sentence; you only need a few key “yeses” (5–10), not many small ones.
Notable examples
Prison as the turning point; a small office “room” where a multi-million-dollar deal closed in minutes; colonoscopy experience shared publicly; “cool” in inner-city culture tied to criminal acceptance.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Search for Acceptance and Risks Taken
0:00 to 0:23
Explore the lengths people go to for acceptance, including crime and risk-taking.
“I started committing crimes because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves.”
Finding Purpose Through Helping Others
1:06 to 2:54
Wallow267 shares his motivation to help those who need support, based on his past experiences.
“Like I was telling you when I got here, man, like when my team said, Wallo wants you, I said, me?”
The Importance of Encouragement
2:54 to 4:38
Discussion on the significance of encouragement and the impact of a simple push.
“I'm going to push people the way I needed to push, the way I needed to lift, you know, just a hand.”
Lessons from Street Culture Beliefs
4:38 to 6:48
Wallow267 reflects on his past beliefs in street culture and how they led to misguided actions.
“that same way because it doesn't matter who it is.”
The Shift Towards Peace of Mind
6:48 to 7:30
Mick and Wallow discuss the importance of peace of mind over loyalty to negative influences.
“And I'm like, hold up, I want to be cool.”
Chasing Peace and Simplicity in Life
7:30 to 10:34
Exploring the value of peace through simple pleasures and routines in life.
“And you got to let go of certain things and sometimes certain people.”
Chasing Peace and Simplicity in Life
11:34 to 12:24
Exploring the value of peace through simple pleasures and routines in life.
“Here's something my younger self would have benefited from.”
Health Awareness and Personal Transformation
12:29 to 14:03
Discussing the importance of health and personal stories of transformation.
“Another truth you taught me was the importance of health.”
Health Checkups and Personal Reflections
14:03 to 16:14
The hosts discuss the importance of health checkups and personal experiences related to them.
“Let's really make it cool to just, you know.”
Introducing The Hot Takes Book
16:15 to 18:06
Wallo267 introduces his book 'The Hot Takes', emphasizing its impactful quotes.
“But the hot takes are all about yes to you, no to them.”
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Winning Ain't for Everybody
18:07 to 19:37
The discussion delves into the discipline and work required for success.
“Like every great person I know that's great at what they do, they actually want the boring.”
The Power of Starting Your Own Journey
19:38 to 21:41
Wallo267 encourages listeners to take charge of their dreams and start their own ventures.
“You told everybody to start your own shit.”
Blocking Out the Fear
21:42 to 23:26
Exploring how fear is marketed by media and the importance of rejecting it.
“And that's what this quote, like, I promise you, your next keynote should be about that because you said it's the biggest business in the world.”
Auditing Your Circle and Relationships
23:27 to 27:48
The hosts discuss the significance of surrounding oneself with supportive people.
“And that's what I look at with you on how not only have you evolved, but your circle changes, the moves that you make have to be different.”
Auditing Your Circle and Relationships
27:49 to 28:36
The hosts discuss the significance of surrounding oneself with supportive people.
“Most of us picked a bank at 16 and never looked back.”
The Importance of Moving in Silence
29:00 to 29:57
Discussing the wisdom of keeping goals private for better outcomes.
“This is why I know that we're brothers from another mother.”
Understanding the Power of 'No'
29:58 to 31:18
Exploring how saying 'no' can empower individuals and protect their aspirations.
“And people put bad energy on your dreams.”
The Value of a Few 'Yeses'
31:19 to 34:53
Emphasizing the significance of obtaining a few key affirmations.
“Tell me right now because I'm cool with no because I understand it.”
Crafting Your Own Success
34:54 to 36:19
Discussing the importance of self-affirmation and chasing meaningful goals.
“Everybody out here chasing these baby yeses.”
Creating Opportunities for Others
36:20 to 37:34
How the guest is working to create opportunities and networks for others.
“And here's actually what I want people to do.”
Defining Criteria for Opportunity
37:35 to 39:48
Explaining the qualities and mindset needed to seize opportunities when they arise.
“What was that moment for Waller that changed your life?”
Book Promotion and Giveaway
39:49 to 41:22
Discussing the upcoming book and encouraging listeners to engage with its content.
“What's the criteria to get in a wallow room?”
Promoting 'Yes to You'
42:01 to 43:10
Discussion about the book 'Yes to You' and personal connection to its themes.
“I'm going to get you a copy of the book on me.”
Rapid Fire Questions with Wallow267
44:11 to 46:28
Engaging in quick questions about personal experiences and opinions.
“Airplanes and hotels, that used to be my nickname.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Wallace Peeples:I started committing crimes because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves. So we all just followers in this big following pool and we all trying to impress each other. And we don't even know what we're doing, but we're willing to risk our lives to be accepted by some people that don't even accept themselves.
0:23Mick Hunt:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged. And today I'm sitting down with the certified beast. I'm talking about someone who's changed my life through his words and to now meet him in person, the energy that he has. I know why every rapper is in his DMs. Every business person is in his DMs. He is none other than the king himself. Mr. Wallow 267.
0:48Wallace Peeples:Mick, I just want to let you know, man, listen, same thing you say about me. I can say about you great things. You a legendary speaker. Top. globally in the world, top podcaster. He went to top 10. You know what I mean? You that guy. So I'm just thankful that you even allowed me to be a part of your platform. You know?
1:06Mick Hunt:Man, I'm the honored one. Like I was telling you when I got here, man, like when my team said, Wallo wants you, I said, me? Damn. I got to go to him. I appreciate that. And you blessed me to be here in the studio wearing airplanes and hotels. Appreciate that, yes. The gear, the swag. They feel comfortable, ain't they? These might be the best shoes on the market. it.
1:26Wallace Peeples:Damn, I appreciate it.
1:27Mick Hunt:If you know, you know. If you know, you know. Wallow, man, again, honored to have you, honored to be with you. You know, I start every episode asking my guest about their because, right? That thing that's deeper than your why. Simon Sinek taught us to start with why, but I believe your true purpose is your because, right? If I were to ask you what's your why, and then I say, but why, that sentence usually starts with, well, because. And I care about that moment, that well-because moment. So if I were to say wallow, man, like today, book coming out, you inspire so many people. What's your because?
2:05Wallace Peeples:Why do you keep doing what you do? You know, I wanted to be the help. The help that I wanted when I was in prison, I wanted to be that for other people. You know, I used to always wanting to push. And I used to get pushed through different people, watching people on TV. Like I told you about Les, Anthony Bourdain and I'll be like won't I become what I want for myself when I needed it the most and that was just a push to help and I think being a push is very important out here because you don't know how a simple little push you know it don't have to be physical but a verbal push can help somebody get through their day can help somebody get out of a dark spot can help somebody get closer to materializing in their dreams, they could do a lot for them.
2:50You know, so it was like, I just wanted to be the push.
2:54Wallace Peeples:That's my because. I'm going to push people the way I needed to push, the way I needed to lift, you know, just a hand.
2:59Mick Hunt:Yeah. When did you know that that was you?
3:05Wallace Peeples:I didn't. You know what, Mick? I realized even when I was young growing up, even in the streets, I always was funny. I always try to, and sometimes the push is not just in encouragement, it's in humor, it's in all that. And I realized when I think about when I was a kid, I always was that kid that was like, that was like upbeat. Yeah. Always, you know what I mean? So it was like, I think I had it, but I ain't identified till I was later on in prison. You don't identify with it till later on in life. Mm-hmm. You know, so it'd just be like, that's how I'd be. It's just different.
3:36Mick Hunt:Yeah.
3:37Wallace Peeples:And why is that push important to you now? It's more important now because, you know, as you can see, a lot of things is changing in the country, a lot of rough times. And people just need it even more now.
3:47Mick Hunt:Yes, sir.
3:48Wallace Peeples:And then social media came and social media put a lot of people in depression. A lot of people feel as though they're not where they want to be in their life. So they, you know, it makes it mess a lot of people up. So it just be like. Right now, people really need that encouragement more than ever.
4:02Mick Hunt:Absolutely. And what I love about you and that push is knowing your story, knowing your journey. And we're going to get into the book to this book in a moment. But your other books, man, it's like. You reach everyone. there's so many cats that can talk to the younger generation but you inspire those that have come before us because we're about the same age yes right you inspire those that are in our age group and you inspire those that are coming up man like not many people can do that you talk about a less brown and the legacy that he's had i look at you with that same way thank you i look at you that same way because it doesn't matter who it is.
4:46Mick Hunt:It doesn't matter where you come from. When you speak, people feel that, dude. People feel that. And I want to give you your flowers because a lot of times when we are in the zone of genius and greatness like you are, you don't understand the depth that you have. And so I want you to know the depth that you have, brother. Appreciate you, man. Yeah. Thank you, Nick. Thank you so much, Nick. So I have this this segment that I call the the unplugged truth. And again, knowing the books that you've written and oh, by the way, New York Times bestseller, by the way, New York Times bestselling author, by the way, TEDx speaker, by the way.
5:31Mick Hunt:we all have these beliefs or at least I do right I have beliefs when I was a kid when I was a young adult that I don't have anymore do you have any beliefs that you once believed in that you once fought for that now it's like that was silly I don't believe in that anymore yeah I believed in
5:49Wallace Peeples:the streets and the street culture the mindset I believe that that was real until you know you grow you you know it gets you in all these bad spots but not just about getting in bad spots you realize that, am I really got a belief in something that's really BS? So, you know, just coming up out of that, you know, because when you're young, you want to be down. Like, I wasn't in the streets because I was just a street. I just wanted to be down and wanted to be accepted by this idea of what cool is supposed to be. You know, a lot of times in the inner city, cool is based off of being a criminal. And I think that's the craziest thing in the world.
6:24And just the fact of, I'm sitting here and as I got older, I'm like, hold up.
6:29Wallace Peeples:I started committing crime because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves. So we all just followers in this big following pool. And we all trying to impress each other. And we don't even know what we're doing. But we're willing to risk our lives to be accepted by some people that don't even accept themselves. They're still trying to find themselves. So we all out here trying to find ourselves. And I'm like, hold up, I want to be cool. Let me be a criminal. So it was like, you know, I believed in that shit. And when you wake up, you realize, like, hold up.
6:57what was I doing?
6:59Wallace Peeples:Is I'm crazy? Yeah.
7:00Mick Hunt:It's a hard pill to swallow, man. And so, you know, when I told you that I look up to you and you mentor me from afar, that right there is exactly one of the lessons that I had to let go of because I used to believe that loyalty and hanging was the right thing to always do. But then you taught me peace of mind is more important. The older you get, it's about peace. And you got to let go of certain things and sometimes certain people. I'd love for you to talk to the audience about that and why that's so important of peace.
7:39Wallace Peeples:Let me tell you something, Mick. You know this. As a grown man, Mick, if you're not on the road today, then you might get up in the morning, take your little walk, do whatever, get your sweat, workout, whatever. And let me take you somewhere. you come in the house you take that shower Mick your wife or you make that sandwich you know that sandwich I'm talking about that nice sandwich the bread all fluffy
8:06Mick Hunt:yes sir
8:06Wallace Peeples:cheese whatever sandwich you tuna whatever sandwich you got your chips on a plate and you sit in your chair your favorite chair or you go lay down you eat that sandwich you watch it whatever the air is blowing through the house wherever you got a window open or wherever is the AC See? Mm-hmm. You relaxed. You get to a point in your life where it's, though, nothing supersedes peace. Nothing supersedes a good nap. That good recharge when you go to sleep. Because I'm one of them dudes that, like, what I be chasing, I be trying to get up. When I'm up early, I'm trying to do as much as possible. So around, like, 1 or 2 o 'clock, I can go to sleep.
8:47Wallace Peeples:That's why I'm chasing that. I'm like, yeah, let me get. I got to go to the post office. I got to drop this off. I got to ship this. I got to do this. I got to return these emails. I got to write this down. I got to read this article. I got to talk to these people on the phone. I got to go here. I'm trying to get to that nap. That's just me. Because one thing about me is, there's one thing, Mick. I love to go to sleep around two, three, and then wake up seven. I can do my research, go on YouTube, read something, write some stuff down in my book. I feel like I'm winning. Like to be up when everybody else is going to sleep, I feel like I'm winning.
9:25Wallace Peeples:But just the fact that I don't know what it is about that. I be chasing that. That sleep and that peace, that soft bed, especially I might ride the bike or I might do a run or a walk, right? I do a run or a walk, ride the bike. Mick, when I jump in that shower and that water hit my body and break my body down, the hot water, I be like, yes. All I'm thinking about is getting to that bed. Because sometimes I might drink a smoothie or juice, orange juice. I'm getting up under that bed, the sheet, and you get up under the sheet and the blanket, and you got the house a little cool. Yes, sir. I'm 47 in June.
10:02Wallace Peeples:That's my life. I love that. Yeah. Like, a lot of stuff, you know, people think, nah. When you can take your, you know, when you done did something, you know, the feeling, it's like multiple feelings. And people might think I'm crazy, but you know that feeling when you take your shoes off, you take your socks off, and your feet just be like, ah. Your feet just breathe, and you just be like, it's the simple stuff as that. Simple stuff is just like, you know, just being able to wake up and go back to sleep because you can. That's something. That's peace. That's peace.
10:35Mick Hunt:I'm going to have to chase naps now, man. Man, listen. I've never napped.
10:40Wallace Peeples:Man, listen. You get one of them. Just try it. Okay. Like, you get one of them, you're going to feel so good when you wake up around. Because now, I don't know what it is. I love to work in the nighttime. Something about it. Yeah. Especially when I'm already charged, because I can push all the way through the night. Because if I go to sleep like two, three, wake up seven to eight, some stuff like that, I can push all the way through the night. So if I got something to do, I can write it down. Get anything that I need to get done. Yeah. So by the morning, I can just say then, four in the morning, go back to sleep, wake back up like seven, eight, do what I need to do.
11:16Wallace Peeples:You know, because like where I'm at now, I'm more focused on, I got a lot of, you know, different projects I'm working on. Yeah. I'm more caught up in that than just posting on social media to be posting. Yeah. I'm more focused on that. So I ain't got to, you know, always cater to that. Yeah.
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12:46No, I love that, man. Another truth you taught me was the importance of health.
12:54Mick Hunt:Man. We've all heard, you know, health is wealth. We all know that, right? But you actually put it into play. And I know it wasn't meant to be comedy, but, you know, you've got some really cool Instagram posts of you making spaghetti out of out of oodles and noodles. Yeah. But the message behind what you're talking about, though, is one, preparing for yourself and to the health benefits of just being healthy. You know what? No, I have to thank you for that, man. Like I'm down between you and Damon John and Robert Irvine. Y 'all collectively have helped me lose 47 pounds. Oh man, that's a blessing.
13:34Mick Hunt:I'm not rounding up yet because I haven't hit 50, but y 'all helped me drop 47.
13:37Wallace Peeples:You know how major that is because listen, not just health, like I shared on my page when I had a colonoscopy. I shared on my page when I was going to get a colon cancer check. I share all this stuff because I'm like, Let's make it cool to live. Right. Let's make it cool to stay healthy. Let's really make it cool to just, you know. And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to try to do something for my birthday. Okay. Whereas though, I guess a couple hundred minutes you get checked out. I'll support it. I got to do something like that. June 25th, I'm going to try to do something. It depends on where I'm at.
14:25Wallace Peeples:I want to do something weird though because I'm feeling like a lot of men, because I didn't know this, right? But when I posted this stuff, I seen a lot of women in the comments like, yo, my dad, I'm sending this to my dad. You need to watch, like, especially black men be afraid to get checkups and stuff. And I'm like, why?
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14:42Mick Hunt:No, we should totally do it. I'll support it because your birthday is actually the same day as my oldest son.
14:48Wallace Peeples:See, June 21st.
14:50Mick Hunt:Oh, I thought it was the 25th. No, 21st. Well, that same week. That same week.
14:54Wallace Peeples:Because I'm like, when I started posting that stuff, Mick, I'm like, hold up. People not jumping on this stuff like this? I thought people was on it. I didn't know. Yeah, yeah. You know, when I did the colonoscopy, man, listen, man, I had to take some stuff. I was, listen, I basically lived in the bathroom. I was pooping so much, right? No, because you got to clean out the day before. So listen, I'm pooping so much, right? Like, I go to get up and I can't even get up. Anytime I get up, it's small. So when I did, I had to crawl and I had to lay on the ground. I had a blanket right there in the toilet.
15:31Wallace Peeples:I was laying on the floor. It cleaned me out so much. But then when I went the next day, I was so happy because I went and, you know, they had to put a camera in you to see what's going on, right? So I lay down and the lady's like, you're ready to be asleep. So I'm like, all right. And they gave you that, what's that thing that puts you to sleep? Splat, yes. Huh? Splat. Yeah, whatever that is. The laughing guy? Okay. No, but no, this wasn't laughing. I was asleep. She's like, I went to sleep. It was done in a heartbeat. And when I talked to the doc, he's like, you're cool. You're cool. I was like, wow.
16:02Wallace Peeples:But it felt good to walk out of there knowing that. And I shared it with everybody. But to walk out of there knowing I'm healthy, it was everything.
16:09Mick Hunt:Yeah. So we're about to go there now, bro. Let's do it. Because I'm here about this book.
16:15Wallace Peeples:Yes. That's why I'm here.
16:16Mick Hunt:That's why I'm here. And I call this one The Hot Takes. But the hot takes are all about yes to you, no to them. And the title grabbed me first and foremost. And I was like, wow. And then I got into the book. And for everybody that's watching, for everybody that's listening, this book is like a book of passages, man. I was telling you, my kids, my sons, every day they open something up and it's like, I need that message today. And that's what they do. the book number one is well written for those that don't have the book yet one go get it but two it's written where like there's a quote and then wallow breaks down the quote on the next page and every page every section is just like that so it's the easiest read you'll ever have but it's also very meaningful and you have some quotes in this book man that one i align with and two I want to get into.
17:15Mick Hunt:And the first quote that got me was winning ain't for everybody. Yes. And it shook me because it made me go back and look at things in my life where you talk about being that push. Because people like you and I, we want people to win with us. What makes you unique is that you genuinely do care about other people winning. But you said winning ain't for everybody. Everybody doesn't have the discipline. Everybody doesn't have the ethics. Everybody doesn't have that thing that they're willing to fight for. And no matter how bad you want it for somebody else, you can't give it to them, man. So talk to us about why winning ain't for everybody.
17:58Wallace Peeples:Because when you say you want to win, there's a bunch of discipline to come with that. Saying yes to yourself is harder than saying no to somebody else or saying yes to somebody else. See when you say yes to yourself There's a lot of work That gotta come So when you say you wanna win There's a lot of work And discipline People don't That's why winning ain't for everybody People not willing to put That discipline in there That working They're like no Yeah I wanna win but Ah Right You know I wanna be the best football player In the world But I gotta work out I gotta eat right I gotta make sure I'm training I gotta Ah I wanna do that Right I wanna have the best business In the world I gotta do this I gotta Right I wanna do Right
18:39Mick Hunt:winning ain't for anybody it's not man like you've said it a billion times i've heard michael jordan talk about i heard steph curry lebron james i'll say it when you really start winning you seek boring right like you seek that monotony that that grind that nobody else wants to do until it becomes boring for you and that just becomes who you are and i don't think people understand that man like people think greatness is always about pushing yourself that's how it starts, but then you seek, just like you seek the naps, right? Like every great person I know that's great at what they do, they actually want the boring.
19:19Mick Hunt:They want to work hard till they get to that boring.
19:21Wallace Peeples:And I like to be away from all the BS.
19:24Mick Hunt:Right.
19:24Wallace Peeples:Right.
19:26Mick Hunt:Right. The second quote that stood out to me, and it's so prevalent today. If you're watching this, I want you to pay attention. If you're listening to this, pull over, stop what you're doing, because this is the most important thing in 2026. You told everybody to start your own shit. You've seen that in there, right? Start your own shit.
19:49Wallace Peeples:There's no excuses. For what? Mick, Mick, Mick, how about this, Mick? If you say today you want to become a chef or you say I'm going to just start cooking it, I'm going to start cooking my food and selling it. Mick, I'm not going to jump in front of you and stop you. nobody's going to jump in front of you in the kitchen and when you start cooking and mess your food up a bit. But you. You're going to jump in front of you. You're going to stop me before you start. So if you think about it, start your own shit. What's the excuses? There are none today.
20:19Mick Hunt:There are none. You can build someone else's dream. Think about it.
20:24Wallace Peeples:You definitely can build someone else's dream. Or you can complete your own. You got a lot of dream builders out here. Yeah. You know? A lot of dream builders. Yeah. Yeah. Next quote.
20:33Mick Hunt:And this one, we're going to go deep. Go here. Because this one is the new keynote speech. Don't buy it. Block out the bullshit is the quote. But I'm going to give everybody that's watching what the story is. Fear is what everybody's selling. Fear is what everybody's selling. And so when Wallow says, don't buy it, block out the bullshit, He's talking about fear. When you look social media, what are they selling? Fear. Fear. You look at TV, the newspaper, what are they selling?
21:10Wallace Peeples:Everybody's selling fear out there. That's the new hustle. Right. Everybody telling you the world won't end today, a world won't start today. You're not going to be able to. They telling you, you're going to lose your home. You're going to lose your car. You're going to lose your job. You're going to lose your life. That's all they're telling. And people love it. They keep watching their BS. Yeah. I don't pay attention to it. No, and what's crazy, because I'd like to think I'm really good at coaching salespeople.
21:35Mick Hunt:And anyone that's a student of mine or a client of mine as it relates to sales, I'm different because I teach you don't sell fear. And that's what this quote, like, I promise you, your next keynote should be about that because you said it's the biggest business in the world. And it made me pause and I'm like, damn, Wallow hit on something that was so simply stated. Bro, that's deep.
22:03Wallace Peeples:Think about it. That's all you, the news is based on fear. Yeah. There's more fear sold on the news than it is positivity or encouraging energy. Yeah. This is the biggest media outlet you got, the news.
22:16Mick Hunt:Yep. Yep. And it's all fear. And then this next one. And this is what, when we talk about my boys and what they had to come to grips with was this right here. Stop befriending people who talk about their friends. Stop befriending people that talk about their friends because they're talking about you too.
22:41Wallace Peeples:Mick, Mick, I come, you know, me and you know each other. We just close by saying we go to school together, whatever, church together, whatever. You always talking about your friends. What connection to me are you really going to have?
22:56You're going to talk about me. Right. Right. You're going to talk about me. Think about this, though.
23:02Wallace Peeples:You're going to talk about me.
23:03Mick Hunt:Yep. Yep. And again, I learned that lesson from Kenny Anderson. Shout out to Kenny Anderson, by the way. My good friend, Chris Paradiso, they got me to evaluate my circle two times a year. because we evolve as people and everybody in your circle doesn't share the same mission. And if they do, then you're not growing personally. Right. And that's what I look at with you on how not only have you evolved, but your circle changes, the moves that you make have to be different. And everybody that's on the ride with you isn't meant to get to that final destination in whatever season that is. I'd love for you to talk about that, man, about how your circle has changed and why it changes.
23:52Mick Hunt:I got one
23:53Wallace Peeples:even better for you. A good friend of mine who's also a brother of mine, Herm, right? Herm always say you got to audit your circle. Yep. Say you got to audit your circle. And that's important. One thing about me, I'm I keep my thing real lean and slim. I don't need a lot of people because with a lot more people, more confusion. You know what I mean? And more people, more expectations, more entitlement. Yeah. People, oh, why you ain't coming to my party? You should have came. I didn't want to come to your party. I don't party. Just because it's your, like, I don't party. I don't care. Like, so you got to think about that.
24:33Like, how do you, how do we figure it out to where as though we like,
24:40Wallace Peeples:I'm so focused and so locked in that I don't need to be around anybody. I don't need a hundred friends. I don't need, like, listen, you already got one of the biggest relationships that you're going to have is a relationship with your dreams.
24:53Mick Hunt:Yeah.
24:54Wallace Peeples:Because at the end of the day, no matter what happened in life, nothing comes before the relationship with your dream. You could be married, you could have kids, all that's cool. But if you don't materialize your dream, you can't take care of them. Think about that. You can't take care of them. And one thing that we know is people try to say, oh, listen, we need to materialize our dreams because in order to live on this planet Earth, you need money. You need money. Right. And one thing about money is you got to take care of school. You got to take care of shelter. You got to take care of food.
25:30Wallace Peeples:You got to take care of transportation. You got to take care of next level education.
25:34Mick Hunt:Yep.
25:35Wallace Peeples:You got to take care of health care, coverage, insurance. And one thing about money is once you have a relationship with your dreams and you really materialize your dreams, you start making money. Like I said in the book, money give money to money. Yes, sir. You know, once you start getting money, people just want to give you money. Right. People find ways to give you money, Mick. They find it. Right. For some reason. So it's like, like you got to have a relationship with that dream and you got to, but in order to have a true relationship with your dreams, you can't have all these people around, man, pulling you in different directions because they are a party or they know you.
26:09Wallace Peeples:I know coming to come to this party, do this. No, I can't be responsible for everybody's happiness.
26:14Mick Hunt:That's it. That's it. And another thing you said in the book too, you know, we talked about auditing your circle and then you have a follow-up, but always protect those that help you win. because winning is never a singular thing yeah right like you know i love boxing right old school boxing and and you look at a muhammad ali you look at a mike tyson you look at an evander holyfield you look at a floyd mayweather publicly they might be the people getting the credit and the just do but it's other people that got them there and you talk about in the book man Like, never forget the people that help you win.
26:56Mick Hunt:Like, those are your true people. Talk to us about the importance of that.
27:01Wallace Peeples:You got to think about it. It's like, a lot of winners are crazy. Like, I look at myself like I'm crazy. When you look at the people that you got around, you got to have people around that understand you're crazy and believe in you're crazy. That's why you got to respect them people. You got to respect them people that's willing to believe in just all the madness. Even when you don't see the end of it. You can't see. You're just like, oh, damn, yeah, you're going to do what? You're like, yeah, I'm going to do that. I can do that. You're like, what? How can you do it? I can do it. So you got to protect them people.
27:40Wallace Peeples:You got to respect them people that believe in you and help you get to your dreams. Yep.
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29:02Mick Hunt:This is why I know that we're brothers from another mother. Because it's two things. One is in the book and one I hear you talk about all the time. that my grandfather used to tell me every day of my life. And my grandfather pretty much raised me with my mom. The first one was move in silence. My grandfather used to tell me this. When everyone knows where you're going, you'll never get there. And when everyone knows what you have, you actually have nothing. And so I learned at a very young age, man, if you're trying to get something done, let the results speak. Please. Let the results speak. And in the book, you talk about that, man, about moving.
29:41Mick Hunt:It's like at the very beginning of the book. And that's what, again, we're brothers from another mother because I was like, oh, I'm doing nothing else the rest of the day except reading this book. Talk to people about why that's so important, because I feel like. People that don't accomplish what they set out to do is because they told too many people about it and they didn't have the heart to really do it anyway.
30:02Wallace Peeples:And people put bad energy on your dreams. That's it. But a lot of times you'd be sitting there, you'd be thinking, people be sitting there, man, putting all type of, they'd be putting all type of hex on you. And sometimes it's good to just do it. Yeah. Like that energy you got, what do it matter if you tell somebody? You telling somebody what you're attempting to do, just do the shit.
30:23Mick Hunt:Exactly.
30:24Wallace Peeples:And do it.
30:25Mick Hunt:Exactly. And let the result speak. I don't have to tell anybody what I'm doing. All the amazing things. And for those that don't know, we're in Lalo's warehouse. And in this warehouse, there's merch everywhere. There's books everywhere. There's so much that he has going on that you haven't even seen yet because he's not telling anybody about it. The results speak for themselves. The action is what drives everything. Not the talk. Yep. Not the talk. And then the other thing that I got from you, and it's actually a part of the title, right? Yes to you. No to them. A lot of folks don't understand.
31:01No is a complete sentence.
31:04Mick Hunt:N-O period. That's a sentence. That's it. My grandfather taught me that. That's it. You got to explain anything? For what? No. Nope. No. Give your take on that, man. No being a complete sentence. And then I want to know why you wrote the book and where that title came from.
31:22Wallace Peeples:One thing I love about it is this. I love no. No change lives. there's going to be a lot of bickering that comes with it because everybody just wants you to be a yes man yeah they want you to be a yes man to their dreams they want you to be a yes man to your distracts to the distractions that they bring you they just want you to be a yes and don't nobody remember that no destroy all yeses they don't remember none of the yeses before but if you establish it i think people should establish they know early yeah if younger people can establish a no in their life really they like to change when you establish a no early everything change yeah every everything's changed for you you know when you just establish that no you know and i think that that's real important yeah and there's a business lesson in that i tell entrepreneurs and especially salespeople i'm actually trying to get you to tell me no
32:14Mick Hunt:i want to make it very comfortable for you to tell me no yeah as soon as possible because when there's a breakup, I don't want to wait to the very last moment to be broken up with. We can break up early.
32:25Wallace Peeples:Tell me right now. We ain't got to start. We ain't got to go nowhere. Tell me right now because I'm cool with no because I understand it. Right. Because a lot of times no can mean two things. To me, no can mean next opportunity. Right. And there's a lot of lessons and blessings inside of a no because all no's ain't bad. No. Sometimes you got to get the understanding of a no. If you told me no about something, I'd be like, man, could you elaborate on why you reached that destination? Like, what's going on? Which is cool. But some people, they just like, they don't give what they want when they want it.
32:51Wallace Peeples:And they can't take advantage of you. Yeah. They upset. They pissed. Yeah.
32:57Mick Hunt:And, you know, you also put in the book, and again, I'm just going to keep repping the book today. Yes to you, no to them. Go get it. Like right now, there's links everywhere you're looking for it. You told me in the book, there's eight point something billion people on earth. and people get confused that they need 2 ,000 yeses. You say you need 5 to 10. 5 to 10 yeses will change your life.
33:23Wallace Peeples:Listen, let me explain something to you. 5 to 10 yeses will take you to another level because you got to remember this, man. Think about the yeses that you might need. You need your wife to say yes. Mm-hmm. You got your business dealings. You need investors to say yes. That's like once the real investor comes. Right, right, right. The big bang. Right, right. That one yes could change your life forever financially. It could put some mean security around you, your wife, your kids, everything. And it could really supercharge your business. Your whole business, the speaking, the podcast, everything you got going on under the Mick Hunt brand.
34:12Wallace Peeples:and then you think about it that's that's that's really two yeses right there you know your wife yes your foundation how many more you need right that goes back people seek validation and then you might mess a yes up you might get a big yes in your life mess it up and then you come back and get another yes and regroup I didn't even think about it that way I think about it you don't need all them, you don't need anybody to say yes to you. Because you got to say yes to you. It's your responsibility to say yes to you. But outside of the yes to you that you're saying to you, if you get three to four yeses, five, you go.
34:53Wallace Peeples:Especially if they're important. Stop chasing the small yeses. Everybody out here chasing these baby yeses. Oh yeah. Yes, I go to the party with you. Yes, I go out and get drunk with you. Yes, I loan you a couple hundred dollars. Man, that's babies. That's nah. Right. Focus on the big yeses. But you got to know your yes. You got to know the yes that you're looking for. What yes is you looking for? That's it. If you're just looking for everybody to say yes and that's going to cater to your securities or your fears or your shortcoming, it's over.
35:19Mick Hunt:So what made you want to sit down and write this bestseller?
35:24Wallace Peeples:Man, this is everything. This right here, which is going to be a bestseller, it was simple. And I wanted to, you know, pattern it after social media. Yeah. All the quotes you need. You see what I'm saying? you know love don't have a speed limit drivers dictate you know what I'm saying because you know you might need somebody just be like man I love this I love this situation I love what's going on you know what I'm saying so that's how that be
35:56Mick Hunt:and again I'm going to keep talking about the book I promise you you're going to be like me and I told Walla this I read it four times right and now every day I go to what I call a passage because he just held it up for you. Every day you can go to a certain section of the book and that passage, that message is going to speak to you and then put action around what that means to you today. And here's actually what I want people to do. And this just came to me. If you're watching, if you're listening right now, go get the book, June 16th. And what I want to do 30 days later, starting July 16th. And I'm going to start the movement with this.
36:44Mick Hunt:Collectively, we're going to choose a message from the book and we're going to talk about it that day. And every week, every week, that's what we're going to do. We're going to take a quote from the book and on social media, that's going to be the driving topic we talk about that week and put action behind it. Because as much as they're quotes, they're actually actions for you to take to do something to change your life, to make your life better, to make your business better, to make you a better person. And we're going to talk about it and we're going to share with Wallo what that message meant that week for us.
37:18Wallace Peeples:Can you see this? That's what I'm talking about. Yes, you know, the new bestseller. Yes, the new bestseller.
37:25Mick Hunt:All right, Wallo. So this one I call the room.
37:32Every person I know that's done something. There was a room, a meeting, a dinner. That changed their life. What was that for you? Was it a room?
37:47Mick Hunt:Was it a meeting? Was it a dinner? Was it a conversation? What was that moment for Waller that changed your life?
37:51Wallace Peeples:It wasn't just the room. It's the rooms that lead up to that room. and get you ready for it. Because one room can open up a door in another room. That's why you got to know how to move in rooms. Yep. Because I might come to your room and you might give me a certain offer. And the offer you give me in your room might lead to somebody else trying to give me an offer in another room. So it's rooms. But the strongest room I've ever been in, it was a small little office.
38:23and me and my partner, me and Gil walked in that room. And in less than five minutes, tens of million dollar deal was done.
38:31Wallace Peeples:And we walked out. It was simple. It wasn't no back and forth. It wasn't a, it was a, they said this, they said this. All right, well, this is what I'm going to do. Here, take that. Walked out. Wow. Less than, less than three minutes, probably. And what was the feeling when you walked out the room? It was unimaginable. I thought about it all night because it was like, damn, this is great. That was great. And you just be like, you know that you wasn't as crazy as you thought you was. You're like, no, you know something. You got to really be crazy. Yeah. Believe in yourself. But it's getting even more crazy when you see that other people believe in you, the game changers believe in you, the life changers believe in you.
39:19Wallace Peeples:Now you're really like shit.
39:21Mick Hunt:Right. And knowing the person that you are today, for you now, you're about creating those rooms for other people. Right? I see all the work that you're doing that doesn't get publicized. Yeah. Because you move in silence. Right. Like you don't need to publicize you doing things for people or you doing things in the community. That's not who you are. But you are creating those rooms for those that are watching, for those that are listening. What's the criteria to get in a wallow room? What are you looking for?
39:54Wallace Peeples:Be you. My rooms is everywhere. You might you might get in my room in the airport. It might be in a hotel lobby. It might be walking down the street. It ain't about. It is about you got to make it make sense.
40:06Mick Hunt:Yeah. Once you see me, if it makes sense, I'm stopping. Yeah.
40:11Wallace Peeples:Talk to you. I talk to everybody, but it's like, if you're talking about some serious stuff, as soon as you make it make sense, my mind is, and I'm like, that's the room right there.
40:22Mick Hunt:Yeah.
40:23Wallace Peeples:I love it. You know, some people want to get in the room and don't even know what they're going in the room to talk about sometimes. Yeah. And when I run into people like that, I try to educate them. I'm like, listen, this is what I need you to do. Let's start this over.
40:35Mick Hunt:Yeah.
40:35Wallace Peeples:They mess up. Let's start it over. No, this is what you need to say. First of all, where are you trying to go at? Where are you trying to land at? Yeah. Let me know. Once you tell me where you're trying to land, I can help you out so we can put this together. We got to put this presentation together real quick. I got time. I'm going to have 15 minutes.
40:50Mick Hunt:Yeah.
40:51Wallace Peeples:But we got to figure it out because you stepped to me. You didn't even know what you wanted. Mm. So let's figure out what you want. So once we figure out what you want, we can establish the delivery and we can establish where you're trying to land.
41:02Mick Hunt:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. So before I get you out of here with my rapid fire hot five, again, this episode is about this book because this book is game changing and I don't care who you are. You need the book so much so that I'm going to do this because everybody that's a follower of Mick Unplugged, they know when I have something that I support and I believe in, I like to give back. And usually I do 20 copies of what I like. but I heard your favorite number is seven like Les Brown. So I'm going to do 70.
41:42Mick Hunt:The first 70, and it always gets stuck because whoever's number 21 gets mad at me. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. But the first 70 people on Instagram that message me, yes to me. Yes to me. And I'm talking about you. because that's the title of the book. Yes to you, noted them. I'm going to get you a copy of the book on me. Before I walk out of here today, I'm ordering 70 copies. You hear that? But then I need you to do me a favor. If you are number 71 through 6 million, Amazon.com, Barnes & Noble's, Books A Million, your local bookstore. Mm-hmm. Pre-order now. Buy it now. You need it. I promise you every day there's something for you.
42:39Mick Hunt:Go get the book. I'm going to have links in the show notes in the descriptions. Again, the first 70 people. Yes to me. I'm going to get a copy. And then here's what we're going to do. Starting July 16th. We're going to go 30 days after release. We're going on social media once a week and we're going to say what this book is meant to us. We're going to choose a passage. We're going to talk about it through the end of this year. that's how much I believe in the book because when my kids like something I know it was something bigger than me and again I'm giving you your flowers bro thank you my brother because it's that deep thank you man I appreciate you alright and then also because I'm also here the first 20 people
43:24you see these right
43:27Mick Hunt:I think I need to give 20 people I'm gonna buy them I think I need to give 20 people these. That's major, Mick. But here's the kick, though, because I can't just go buy 20 of like one size of these shoes. You got to figure out what the size is and get back what it is. Yeah. But the first 20 people, I got to figure out how to do this so it's fair. They got to follow the brand and the brand is?
43:54Wallace Peeples:Airplanes and Hotel.
43:57Mick Hunt:And I'll have links to that on social to, you got to follow the brand. You got to follow Wallow. You got to follow me. And you got to message the three of us so that I can confirm and validate. I'll reply back if you're in the top 20. Give me your shoe size. I got you. These are the most comfortable shoes. And I travel a lot. Airplanes and hotels, that used to be my nickname. That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. when I tell you these are comfortable these are all day these are these so much so I got a speaking engagement Monday I think I'm gonna wear these on stage I think I'm gonna wear these on stage that's how comfortable they are so ladies and gentlemen I threw out the challenge hit me up now Walla I gotta get you out of here this unplugged five this rapid fire I don't know if you're ready I'm ready the hardest no you ever had to say was to who?
45:00Myself. My hardest no was to me too. To me. It was to me. Looking in the mirror. Who's a better hooper?
45:10Wallace Peeples:You or Gilly? Gilly. Really? Yeah, I don't, I don't, I'll be lying. I'll be, my game ain't like that. It used to be. Now back in 92, 93, that's different.
45:19Mick Hunt:Okay. Okay. All right. We're in Philly. Philly. The king of the cheesesteak. I've had some recommendations that I haven't loved. I'm going to be honest.
45:31Wallace Peeples:I'm going to give you the best.
45:32Mick Hunt:That's it. The best cheesesteak in Philly is.
45:36Wallace Peeples:Taste cheesesteak. They got a oxtail cheesesteak. Okay. Yes, I'm going to send you there. Okay. I love it. I love it. I need you to finish this sentence. The freedom that follows saying no feels like the freedom that follows saying no feels like the greatest thing in your life. Greatest thing in your life. So the last question is the two part. When the story of your life is being produced. when the movie Wallow comes out because I'm putting that in the I'm putting it out there what's one or two words you want to define you and your legacy in that film giver giver who plays you in that film that's the follow up Michael B.
46:34Jordan
46:36Mick Hunt:if you'd have asked me that that's exactly who I would have said Michael B. Jordan he that guy Ladies and gentlemen, this has been my good friend, Wallow267. I'm going to keep saying it. Go get this book. Yes to you, no to them. It's available right now. It's available right now. Wallow, brother. Appreciate you, Mick. I appreciate you more than you know.
46:58Wallace Peeples:Thank you, Mick. I appreciate you. Appreciate you for coming out here, man. Yes, sir. Mick unplugged.
47:03Mick Hunt:That's it. And to all the viewers and listeners, remember, your because is your superpower. Go unleash it. Yes. you
From the publisher
Winning ain't for everybody because people aren't willing to put in the work and discipline.
Mick Hunt welcomes entrepreneur and content creator Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples) to discuss self-mastery, strategic decision-making, and why peace of mind should be your ultimate goal. This episode challenges traditional notions of success and offers insights on living authentically.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
- The critical role of "no" in personal growth
- How 5-10 "yeses" can change your life
- Why peace of mind matters more than loyalty
- Understanding the biggest business in the world: fear
- The importance of auditing your inner circle
QUOTES THAT HIT
"I started committing crimes because I wanted to be accepted by some people that I thought was cool, that was followers themselves." - Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples)
"Nothing supersede a good nap. That good recharge when you go to sleep." - Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples)
"You gotta have people around that understand you're crazy and believe me you're crazy." - Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples)
CHAPTERS
00:00 The Push to Help
02:06 Discovering Your Calling Later in Life
04:33 Letting Go of Old Beliefs
06:56 The Importance of Peace
11:09 Health is Wealth
15:16 Why Winning Ain't for Everybody
19:38 Block Out the Bullshit and Fear
21:36 Auditing Your Circle and Relationships
28:47 No is a Complete Sentence
32:07 The Power of a Few Key Yeses
34:22 Yes to You, No to Them
36:01 The Life-Changing Rooms
41:50 Rapid Fire: Unplugged Five
QUESTIONS THIS EPISODE ANSWERS
Q: How does saying "no" impact one's life and personal development?
A: Saying "no" transforms your life, even if it brings initial bickering. Establishing "no" early helps younger people, changing everything for them.
Q: What is Wallo267's perspective on "winning ain't for everybody"?
A: Wallo267 believes winning isn't for everyone because it requires significant discipline and work that many are unwilling to put in. Successful people often seek the "boring" monotony of consistent effort.
Q: How can listeners connect with Wallo267's new book and community initiatives?
A: Listeners can get Wallo267's book, "Yes to You, No to Them," through Amazon.com and other major booksellers. They can join a social media movement starting July 16th to discuss weekly passages and share what the book means to them.
Connect & Discover Wallo267 (Wallace Peeples):
Instagram: @wallo267
LinkedIn: @wallce-peoples
YouTube: @wallo267
TikTok: @wallo267
X: @Wallo267
Facebook: @whereswallo
Book: Yes to You, No to Them: The Discipline of Saying No and the Freedom that Follows
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