2663: Mid-Range, Stretch & Squeeze for Maximum Gains & More (Listener Coaching)

18:10Adam Schafer:You think? Yeah. Is it finally common knowledge as far as it being...

18:15Sal Di Stefano:Well, I think just to see all the different electrolyte competitors that have exploded in the last three to five years is an example of that. That market wasn't there, just say, 10 years ago.

18:27Adam Schafer:Well, Element came out and they did a really brave thing where they said one serving of our electrolyte powder is a thousand milligrams of sodium. By the way, nobody would have done that everybody's so scared of sodium because of all the yeah all the uh most of it misinformation around sodium and if it's bad for you and this and that um uh and so elements like before that nobody had a thousand milligrams for an electrolyte power it was always like 200 milligrams or 100

18:52Sal Di Stefano:milligrams uh with a bare minimum versus optimal amount yeah and by the way the early studies too

18:56Adam Schafer:on electrolytes use a lot of sodium like the first gatorade yeah that they that they used

19:00Sal Di Stefano:was at university of florida yes and you guys know the story the story is kind of crazy right that have you looked it up before doug have you ever looked at the how gatorade that's why it's uh called the gatorade because it's for florida state yeah yeah the gators and like they were i forget what happened they were getting like crushed like just they had one of their nutrition

19:16Adam Schafer:scientists yeah develop their they call it gator aid and it was high sodium yeah they lowered the sodium because uh and the and the team's performance like went through that when i was

19:25Sal Di Stefano:went through the went through the roof and then so the name was born like that's right yeah it's

19:29Adam Schafer:got a really cool story behind it that's right so i got some studies here on it which is pretty interesting so they're studying the 2011 journal of sports science that showed that sodium supplementation three to six grams a day during endurance events reduces plasma volume loss and maintains hydration far better than water alone this is definitely critical for events lasting more than an hour again that's what they found uh remember in florida when they were playing football it was hot and humid yep and when their athletes were you know drinking and it's not the gatorade you buy you lose 10 pounds before you even step on the field oh and their time really Kind of wither.

20:02Sal Di Stefano:And the reason for this is it's because the water's pairing and sodium's holding onto it, right? Keeps it in your body. So basically it's storing it for later when you're going to need it.

20:10Adam Schafer:Oh, let me give you an example. If all you drank was distilled water, dangerous. Distilled water is water with nothing in it. Very dangerous to just drink. Yeah, because it goes right through you. Right through you. You actually dehydrate yourself as a result. 1965. 1965 was the first time. And the original Gatorade, like I said, was much higher than so.

20:28Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, and it was in result to the concerns they had because of the heat and dehydration that the Florida Gators football team was having. Yes.

20:34Adam Schafer:Here's another one. In 2016, meta-analysis found that sodium ingestion improved endurance performance by 3 % to 5 % in events like marathons and triathlons, which is a big deal when you're talking about that level. Research in 2006, medicine and science and sports and exercise linked hyponatremia to ultra-endurance events where athletes overhydrate without replacing sodium. So athletes would run into this problem in endurance events where they're drinking lots of water, and their electrolyte balance is off, and they're getting muscle cramps, and they think they need more water, which is actually what was causing the problem.

21:11Adam Schafer:Too much water, not enough. We saw this a lot, especially when I was coaching high school kids. It's like, yeah, they're on top of their water consumption, but they were still getting cramps at mid-game. Yes, yes. And it was really that balance. This is especially important. So if you do endurance events, you sweat a lot, this is a big deal. Some of the consumers that like the Element product the most are people who work in the sun. These are blue-collar workers. Actually, they'll buy Element because it makes a big difference. Because they're out in the sun, roofers, those kind of people, right?

21:42Adam Schafer:So if you're out in the sun, you're sweating a lot, you need to add some sodium to your water. If you don't consume a lot of processed foods - That's a big one. If you're in a whole food diet, your sodium intake is significantly lower than if you had a lot of processed foods. This is the, okay, so I find this enlightening.

21:59Sal Di Stefano:This is interesting to me. I don't know if you see, like our editing team's all young, so they follow like all the young influencer kids and stuff like that. And there's an influencer kid. He puts out, I want to give him credit, like 95%, really, really good credit. I know he shits on electrolytes. That's one of his things. Yeah, and Josh just sent it to me. And what I don't understand, again, I think this is just a lack of experience of knowing what happens to a lot of clients. You take a client who most of their life has been eating processed foods, which, by the way, the body is now adapted to this high level of sodium.

22:30Sal Di Stefano:And then you convince them that eating whole foods is the path, and they are bought in, and they do that. And even if they salt their food reasonably, the amount of sodium that that person intakes while also now pushing to work out is dramatically lower than what it used to be. And many times me simply just bumping my, my client's sodium made a huge difference in how they felt their performance, all the things. So I find it really interesting that there is a, you know, there's pushback in some of the science community and the fitness side of some of these influencers that think that, oh, electrolyte game is such bullshit.

23:03Sal Di Stefano:It's a waste of money.

23:04Adam Schafer:It's not. Look, if you, if you eat processed foods, you don't exercise, you sit on the couch all day. Like don't use electrolytes. Right. You're getting plenty of sodium. You're not sweating. Like except for sodium levels are great. You're fine. You're doing fine. You're probably not a good idea if you add sodium. But if you work out, you do a whole food diet, you'll probably notice an improvement, especially if you're low carb. This is where it gets crazy. When ketogenic diets or low carb diets are starting to get popular, people would talk about the keto flu. And the keto flu is, oh, you switch over to ketones.

23:32Adam Schafer:Your body has to get used to it. You feel like garbage for a couple of weeks and you're fatigued and you got headaches. And oh, don't worry, your body will adjust. The keto flu is because they needed sodium. because when you have no carbohydrates, your body flushes water out. And it's funny, when I have clients go keto for whatever reason and they'd feel that way, I would add salt to their water. And I'd say, let's see if this fixes it. By the way, you'll know. Oh, you'll know if it fixes it. You'll know within 15 minutes. You'll add sodium. And then 15 minutes later, keto flu evaporates. And suddenly you feel remarkably better.

24:06Adam Schafer:That was because of the sodium. And then as far as for bodybuilders, bodybuilders, if you really like to train like a bodybuilder, You're probably not eating a lot of processed foods. You're probably eating a lot of whole foods, high-protein diet, and you like the pump, right? The pump is great. There's lots of supplements out there that talk about improving blood flow with citrulline, with arginine, and yes, that'll help, but I'll tell you something right now. You have 1 ,000 milligrams of sodium with some carbs before your workout. Have another 1 ,000 milligrams during your workout. Best pumps of your life because of the sodium.

24:39Adam Schafer:It makes it huge.

24:40Sal Di Stefano:I also found it as a better. So this was something that was different that I did in our space during the competitive days because I never liked the idea of what some of these competitors were doing where they went like no sodium. But I saw the benefit of trying to get the water to pull out of your system. And so instead of me going eating my whole food diet, my whole prep, and then all of a sudden cutting sodium before going to the show, I intentionally pushed sodium to much higher levels. And then brought it down to normal. And then brought it down to normal. And I would get that same effect of losing that water weight that all these guys are doing.

25:12Sal Di Stefano:But then when I came into stage, I'm still salting the shit out of my food like normal and eating a good amount of sodium still. Just half or a quarter of what I was before. And this was before Element was even a thing. So I was using the giant dill pickles. And I'd get like two, three of those big ones a day to push my numbers up in addition to all the salting of my food. And then all I'd do is I'd go from three to two to one to none.

25:36Adam Schafer:You just reminded me who craves a lot of sodium. as pregnant women because their blood volume goes through the roof they've got way more blood volume so some of the uh my friends uh we have some friends that are pregnant and uh they're constantly asking me for element they're like oh my god this this feels so good it's the whole like the reason why i thought of that you brought up dill pickles you ever hear the stories of women who are pregnant craving they want to drink the the pickle juice well that's still a yeah that's still something that even like friends of mine loose friends of mine they'll they swear by drinking pickle juice and I'm like, oh, you're craving sodium.

26:08Yeah. They think there's some magical reason. Well, that is the magic.

26:12Sal Di Stefano:The other hack or thing that I would include is to people who I see a lot, if you use a lot of sauna, saunas and jacuzas. You better sodium up before you're sweating. Even with me taking the product like I do, I have to do a second one when I go spend a half hour more in one of those. Otherwise, I get a pounding headache. And so that was something that took me a minute to realize because I thought, oh, I'm already using some of the sodium. I should be fine. But, I mean, I sweat so much. And I'm sure everybody's body is different on how much your body excretes, but I definitely turn that over fast.

26:44Sal Di Stefano:And so me being able to – and I don't know if that may be tied to my peeing and stuff like that, that I go through a lot of fluid or what it is. That's a lot of people through it. But I recognize that if I'm going to do the sauna, steam, jacuzzi – I got way better muscle endurance. Like in some of those workouts where I'm doing like higher rep volume, it's like it's substantially uh i noticed that it's when i add in quite a bit of sodium it i

27:08Adam Schafer:can have so much better endurance you guys want to hear crazy uh a crazy poll that has been just now making its rounds right now a survey conducted by one poll so this was uk women right they did a survey and they found out that out of a thousand uk women surveyed a staggering 50 percent admitted to having a backup partner in mind if their current relationship was to fail 70 50 oh 50 50 by the way married women are more likely to have a plan to have a plan b in in mind yes and it's backup is likely to be an old friend who has always had feelings for them other candidates include ex-boyfriends husbands colleagues or a gym buddy so what do you now why do you guys think i have some theories around around this i definitely have some theories

27:55Sal Di Stefano:around well i mean if you buy into the provider protector thought process and it's like hey we're disposable i i'm you know i'm uh i love this at this this guy and i'm gonna give it my all but if he doesn't come through and doesn't protect doesn't provide and you know steve's been begging me for my whole life since high school so maybe i give him a shot you know what you know what

28:17Adam Schafer:what's part of this is they they allow that sideline again they allow the plan b guy yeah to think that there may be something so they kind of string them along as a plan b just friends exactly captain friend zone is he gonna last that long until like the guy croaks exactly yeah it's

28:36Sal Di Stefano:exactly i think that it'd be interesting how many times so you 50 admit that 50 in this poll yeah i

28:42Adam Schafer:don't know how accurate it would be you know well i mean if 50 are admitting it you got to think it's

28:45Sal Di Stefano:at least that right yeah i mean because you gotta think there's a percentage you're gonna deny it be like no i would never do that when it's like your whole world's about safety security and all that i could see how that the brain's kind of like you know evaluating all this all the time

28:59Adam Schafer:divorce data is interesting too because uh they'll and this is a there's a real stat that women rarely will leave their husbands without having found someone else yeah rarely do they leave in terms of the years in mind they've already in comparison to men right rarely do they leave with nobody. Yeah. It's typically they leave because they have somebody else to go to.

29:20Sal Di Stefano:What was the percentage of most divorces that were initiated by women? Isn't it higher?

29:24Adam Schafer:80%. 80? 80%. Wow. 80 % are initiated.

29:28Sal Di Stefano:Now, what's included, though, is the man who steps out and then she says, I'm out. Yeah, that doesn't mean

29:34Adam Schafer:that they're the ones causing it.

29:35Sal Di Stefano:Right, it doesn't mean it's her fault. Right, right, right. It's just that she's...

29:38Adam Schafer:But they're the ones most likely to go and start the process of divorce. Well, this is funny. I saw a study that's not necessarily related to that, but somewhat. So it was about, it was like a sleep study of, for men, it was like very beneficial for them to have a significant other sleeping with oxytocin and all this kind of bonding, you know, associated with, they got better sleep quality, all that kind of. But for women in the study, they found that actually a dog was a better suitor for them to sleep with. yeah i was like what that's interesting because yeah and it was like trying to trying to exclaim that they were like less restless like like they just like match their heart rhythms better and like you know they're uh the right temperature all those kind of things it was like that's a

30:29Sal Di Stefano:match that would be interesting to read with that because i know i know katrina swears by that she gets worse sleep when i'm out of town she hates that oh yeah if i'm if i'm out of town she's like I never sleep good. Yeah, Courtney too. Dogs always end up in bed and I'm gone every time. She probably gets better sleep.

30:46Adam Schafer:What was crazy about that first thing I said about the backup plan, it's really crazy how people go in because the general stats on marriage are not really great, right? It's like 50 % end up not working out. What's crazy is that thinking about a bit like you're going to build a business, right? Adam, you've said this before. You're going to go into a business. your odds of success dramatically go up if you go all in that's right rather than going in kind of like i'm gonna tiptoe in because just in case and i'm afraid type of deal i think a lot of people are so afraid that they go into marriage like well you know with that mentality like well you know just in case it doesn't work out you keep your stuff here i'll keep that there i got my plan b over here type of deal it's a failing strategy it's like you're setting yourself up uh for higher

31:33Sal Di Stefano:odds of failure versus like we're all in well i think there's also there's misconception of when you're gonna get married that it gets it gets so much easier like when you get married you know funny because you're friends with uh the the mentor of mine that i had when i was a kid chad and i'll never forget when he said i was dating somebody at the time and i was asking his counsel on on you know should i stay with her and how do i know i think she might be the one i'm like 15 16 right now right and i didn't just start laughing at you no no he did I appreciate him not, right? And discounting me that way.

32:06Sal Di Stefano:But he said something to me that forever stuck with me. And he says, like, everything that you are challenged with in the relationship, when you get married, it will be 10 times harder. And he goes, so as long as you can make peace with that, then, yeah, she could be. Great advice. It was great advice because, and again, to your point right now, is it shifted the way I thought about going into a marriage. It's not going to be easier and necessarily, I mean, we're going to have as much, if not way more challenges before. And so is this the person, I've heard a better example of like, you choose a partner on someone who you would want to go to war with.

32:39Sal Di Stefano:Somebody who you know, we're going to go have to handle some shit. And like, that's the person. I know it's coming. I don't know what it is. Because you're going to go to war.

32:47Adam Schafer:You're going to face it.

32:48Sal Di Stefano:And I can't think of a better person. And I think about that with my relationship with Katrina. It's like, there's nobody I'd rather do all those hard things with than that man.

32:58Adam Schafer:I follow this on social media. there's this orthodox priest. He does really good jobs. Father Josiah Trenum, I think. And he said, so it's from a biblical standpoint, but that's the origins of the marriage as we understand it. One man, one woman, right? You know, two people, that's it. He says, marriage was not designed to make you happy. It was designed and created to make you holy. And I thought that was a great way to say it because people are so like, no, I gotta be happy all the time. He's like self-serving. It's about happiness. There's nothing self-serving. No, and I love that he said that.

33:30Adam Schafer:It's a sanctifying thing. Just like with kids. Like people think with kids, like I don't want to have kids because it's going to be hard. It's going to be stressful. I'm going to be tired. Well, yeah, it is. And you're not going to be as, I guess you're not going to have the same kind of happiness stuff, fun stuff that you have now. But that's not what it's about. It's totally different. It's something you can't explain. Along those lines, it's funny. I had somebody comment on one of my posts on X. and it was, I used to believe this. So this guy said this comment and I used to actually believe this.

34:02Adam Schafer:It's a really sad way of thinking of love. The person put on there, love is just the chemical reaction in your brain. And I said, God, I used to think that. You know what's crazy about that? It's a choice, man. But you know what's crazy about that? Do you know that the ancient languages had different words for different types of love? Doug, if you could look up the four Greek words for love or ancient Greek words. Like the way you love your brother, the way you love your mate, the way you love your job. Yeah, so we just have love. Right. I love pizza. I love my wife. I love exercise. I love lamp.

34:38Adam Schafer:I love this movie. And we think it's a feeling. Like that's what love is, it's the feeling that I get. It's like, no, the ancient languages understood this. There was agape, which is sacrificial love. Eros, philia, and storage. and one of those is like brotherly love. One of them is familial.

34:55Sal Di Stefano:It says right there, selfless love, romantic love, friendship love, and familial love.

34:59Adam Schafer:Yeah, so they have four different words to describe love. But what we've done is we've taken everything and put it into this one thing and just said love. And the feeling of love isn't just love. There's lots of things that, and the feeling of love is, Arthur Brooks says it well, it's like smelling the turkey dinner, but it's not the turkey dinner.

35:18Sal Di Stefano:It's evidence that it's there. Well, I mean, thanks to our society and Disney. We've positioned it as this romantic feeling that you'll just feel. I mean, I remember being told that when I was younger. You'll just know. I remember being a young kid and asking, how do I know? Oh, you'll just know. You'll just feel it. And you're walking around like, when am I going to feel this thing? To me, that was one of the most important moments on my journey of finding my wife was realizing that it's a choice. It's an action. it's like it's an act and like i've never no one ever told me it was an act loves an action and a choice so you choose to love that person you choose to take action and then if you reframe it as like okay i've picked this person that i'm going to do this with and instead of me always looking at all her flaws or all of what she's not doing it's like what can i do because it's an action that i'm choosing to do for her and we're say we're having a hard time so it's like instead of what we tend to all you know default to which is pointing out the other person's faults and what they're not doing or all the things it's like well what could i be doing in this partnership to do to serve my partner more and it's crazy because when you when you move in that fashion it's wild how much better it becomes there's a real problem too with you know you ever hear

36:33Adam Schafer:people say like oh we lost the spark you know those those great feelings are gone or whatever there's a real problem uh and therapists will talk about this where there are people who are addicted to the falling in love uh process so they'll fall in love with someone yes yeah i think

36:48Sal Di Stefano:and they never move past that once that goes away my my interpretation is that is and this is how i and this is my opinion so you can agree or disagree is those are people that misunderstand lust with love yeah because lust is initial past lust is a very powerful feeling that we all get and it comes and goes and it you you'll it'll surface sometimes it'll get surprised pull you Yeah, and I think many times that lust leads to a sexual desire, which then may be interpreted as, oh, this must be what this pull, this addiction that I have towards this person must be what love is. And it's like, yeah, no, that's not.

37:26Adam Schafer:And by the way, the data on that's very fascinating. The people who report the greatest satisfaction in their sex lives are people who've been married for decades who are in their 60s. so it's it's so if you think it's about being hot and the lustful thing they're the ones reporting by the way to you to take this back to fitness because i think you know we have a lot of fitness uh individuals who will get it if i do it communicating this way imagine what it would be like actually we don't need to we know because the modern society is like this if the only value that you worshipped about food the only value that you valued about food was its palatability it's all about how enjoyable it is to eat that's all it is where does that lead to right obesity It leads to disease.

38:08Adam Schafer:It leads to - Yeah, so if you have that narrow understanding or scope or value of food, you're going to end up sick and unhealthy. Food isn't just the palatability. That's part of it. But there's also so many other values that you get from food. I mean, you could also say this about -

38:25Sal Di Stefano:It's more hedonistic. You could also say this about exercise. So another way to tie it back to fitness is if you approach fitness as its only value is the way it makes you look, and you're always driving for that, that's also fleeting. Of course. Even if it gives you what you want temporarily, then you fall out of love with it after a while. You're like, oh, cool. I've been 3 % body fat. Now what? It's like, yeah. And then you go off in the other direction and then you don't care anymore. Then you were that guy or that girl who talks about the time when you did it. You know, like, oh yeah, I've done it.

38:52Sal Di Stefano:I've done the fitness thing. I've worked out. It's like, if you attach the only thing to how it makes you look, then yeah, you'll also lose that battle too.

39:00Adam Schafer:Speaking of like love and lust, I got a stack for you guys from Organifi that is, we'll call it the happy stack, but I think we could more appropriately call it the horny stack. Shilajit and Happy Drops, both work differently to boost libido. Both have been shown to boost sexual desire. The Happy Drops do that too, huh? I've told you guys this. Yeah, the saffron in there boosts libido, especially in women. Shilajit has been shown to do the same thing. Both come in the gummy form. You stack those together, that's a good time. Justin over there throwing his wife's juju fruits. I'm blending it in my shakes, sliding it in there.

39:38Adam Schafer:I think I'll watch a movie. Hey, babe, I brought you some candy. She's like, what's this tar tasting? What the hell? These happy drops?

39:43Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, juju fruits don't taste like this. These don't taste like gummy bears. Why don't you keep touching me? Is it working yet? Hey, grab some popcorn. Oh, God. You know exactly the joke I made with that one. Oh, dude. I don't know where they did this, but there was like, at some college, they decided i think through some genealogy or whatever going through genetics like they tried to recreate um what hypothetically like the first human looked like like basically adam right what they'd look like and and so they put this all together this artist renders it it all comes together you know what it ends up looking like and turns into what vin diesel dude i swear to god he looks exactly like vin diesel i'm like oh hell no where do they get the idea though what do they even think that this is going to be i have no idea what the motivation was for it but it's just yeah but it was like a legit college uh where they ran this uh they ran this program and like got this artist to render it now yeah i'm assuming that that's what they're doing is a reverse engineering all the you know tracing down like like the look oh my god it's exactly like vin diesel right like it's scary it's scary and accurate looks like vin diesel why i have no idea look identical well i mean what that would say is that his uh his makeup ultimate man right all his all like whatever his ancestral like his ancestral tree is linked similar to what atoms would be the in order for that to look is that i mean is that how that would work yeah like if they go back and look at all the traits like characteristics and like you know like facial features and they put it all together.

41:22Sal Di Stefano:That's not even like kind of close. Really? That's what you're going to come up with?

41:26Adam Schafer:Is like, that's the first human? I don't think so. I'm more and more believing that with some things, right? I feel like you were getting trolled. Yeah, they do a lot of guessing. You know what I mean? Like this is a lot of guessing. So glad you're starting to figure that out. So glad you're starting to figure that out. Yeah. I mean, they did this with like the shroud of terrain and all this. And they're trying really hard to give us a real image of what these historical people might look like. But come on, David Diesel. Hey, I got to tell you guys.

41:53Sal Di Stefano:Tell me about that. Wait, wait, because he's on this and he's going back to history. Tell me about the frozen embryo.

41:59Adam Schafer:Oh, yeah. So they just, the oldest, I'll read it to you. An Ohio couple welcomed a baby born from an embryo frozen for over 30 years, setting the record for the longest storage time before birth. Lindsay and Tim Pierce used donated embryos through embryo adoption after struggling with infertility. The embryos were donated by Linda Acherd, who created them through IVF in 1994, but couldn't use them after her divorce. Wow. The baby was born from an embryo stored for 11 ,148 days, surpassing the previous record. Isn't that wild? Yes. Yeah, that's a long shelf life. That makes it, that's kind of weird.

42:37Adam Schafer:I don't know how I feel about that. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah. You just got a throat.

42:40Sal Di Stefano:So is there, what would be the reasoning, Sal, they would use that embryo? I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question. Why don't you pick that one? Yeah, I'll take that one that's been on the shelf for 11 ,000 days, please. Move the cobwebs a little bit.

42:52Adam Schafer:Can you give me a newer one?

42:53Sal Di Stefano:I mean, Linda was a badass. You know what I'm saying? I should hope so.

42:57Adam Schafer:Isn't that wild? I want to know if this baby is going to live for 100 years. I want to know about the baby.

43:03Sal Di Stefano:Is the baby just now born? Do we know anything about the baby?

43:06Adam Schafer:Yeah, it was just born recently. July 26th. Yeah, dude. Cute baby picture. Crazy. Yeah, I don't know, man. That is wild. I got something for you. Okay. A company in Spain, I can't wait to hear what your guys' initial thought is on this, because I know I have an initial thought. A company in Spain gives workers a 30-minute masturbation break written in the official policy. Oh, bro, I sent this to the group. Yeah. I mean, I used to take that anyway. Now I could have got paid for it, is what you're saying? It's called, shut up. It's called the masturbation station. employees go mid-shift to relieve stress and produce and boost now you don't have to hide in the bathroom you actually have like a designated station you know this reminds me of what was it

43:51Sal Di Stefano:what's our show that we like that we all think is hilarious righteous righteous gym so when the prayer pods the prayer pod in masturbation i don't watch that oh you missed out yeah one of the inventions one of those kids comes up with is like these prayer pods and they're these pods so people can pull over and pray wherever you know no in malls yeah like in airports you know he's like

44:11Adam Schafer:no there's masturbating so when i read this i immediately thought to myself like this ceo is 100 a pervert 100 is trying to find a way sure to be a pervert with a staff do they even have an hr department i mean how did that fly i don't know how that flies but for sure this is some whoever the ceo is whoever's running this is like yeah oh did you take your break you imagine that Imagine your boss coming up to you. Justin, did you take your jerk off right? I'll go take it. I'll wait. Go ahead. I'll just hang out on a minute.

44:39Sal Di Stefano:How was that? Was that okay? You say that until the reports come back. You feel good? You know, no sick days and performance went up by 20%. Then he looks like a genius. You know what I'm saying? I know.

44:51Adam Schafer:Hey, what are the perks if you crush it that month? Yeah. We have someone who's going to offer you a hand. We actually have a machine. Yeah, we want to talk to you.

44:59Sal Di Stefano:Steve, go tell us your success story this week. Yeah, I went in every day. Every day. 30 days in a row. Good job. Yeah, to Justin's point with HR, how do you not get in trouble for someone? Where was it at again? Spain. It's in Spain. Oh, Spain. Much looser rules over there. I guess. Interesting things over there. I mean, is that the case over there? I mean, they sleep half the day, right? Is that true? I don't know. They're the ones that have siestas. Yeah, they have siestas, right? Isn't siestas over there? Yeah, it's sick. Is that for real though? I'm like, I'm jealous. They get to work a little bit, then sleep a lot.

45:30It is an adult entertainment company. Oh, well, that makes sense. That makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? That makes total sense. It's called Erica Lust Films.

45:37Sal Di Stefano:Oh, yeah. And yeah, him as a boss, he's already -

45:40Adam Schafer:Maybe because everybody's working on - That makes way more sense. They're working on their projects. I can't handle this anymore. Bro, go in there.

45:46Sal Di Stefano:Yes, go handle your business and get back to work.

45:49Adam Schafer:Get back to editing these films, bro.

45:51Sal Di Stefano:Whatever happened - Okay, I brought up on the show a long time ago the big movement on the four-day work week. I don't know. And there was a lot of companies that adopted that. And we're doing that. In fact, we had some partners of ours that I think that moved to that. I haven't heard anything else about that. I heard that a lot of them started to really demand everybody back and were trying to rebuild culture. Yeah, I know that about COVID. COVID did a thing that you've continued. Once you give people that, it's hard to pull them back.

46:18Adam Schafer:Yeah.

46:19Sal Di Stefano:I mean, there's a lot of people that I know, both my family and friends that had jobs where they only had to come in the office once a week. And most of those companies have reverted back to the old ways. But there was a lot of good ideas around that. I mean, personally, if I had the choice of four 10-hour days over five, eight-hour, I would take four 10-hour days. I mean, I already was doing that back in the day. Yeah, right. What's it say, Doug? Yeah, so there's a lot of companies who have actually done it successfully, including Microsoft Japan, Kickstarter, Buffer, Panasonic, North America.

46:50Adam Schafer:You know, talk about Japanese culture, though, Doug, with work. If you're working so hard that you're falling asleep at your desk, it's almost like a flex. Yeah. People are like, oh, man, look at... Yeah, they're notoriously long workers. Sleep on the train and then just go right back to work. Yeah, they grind. That's crazy. They grind over there.

47:09Sal Di Stefano:So it's 29 companies with four-day work. Yeah, I'd be really interested to see how that pans out. I mean, are you guys that way? I mean, I feel like I would... According to this, employees are happier, work harder. We have that type of schedule, yeah. I mean, I would. If you came to me in my 20s and said, hey, here's the deal. Instead of coming five days a week, we'd love for you to come four. and I worked seven days a week for years. That's why it's a no brainer for us. Yeah. I was already working seven days a week and six for two. Like what? Four for 10? Easy. I thought we just had to do that.

47:41Adam Schafer:You know what it's like working? Well, you guys know this. You work seven days a week because I did this for years, okay? Working seven days a week for years and years and years. When you take a day off, it feels so hard to get back in the momentum. If you take a day off, it was easier almost to just keep going all the way through. You guys remember that? Yeah, that's funny.

48:00Sal Di Stefano:But you've also seen, they've done research on this too, of the amount of actually productivity that the average employee has. Oh, yeah. It's like - Low. Crazy. In an eight-hour day - Especially now with Facebook and everything else. I'm pretty sure it's under two hours. I'm pretty sure that's the research I've seen. It's like in an eight-hour day, I think the average employee is literally productive for like two of those hours. Unless you live in China where they monitor you.

48:22Adam Schafer:Well, that's why being a trainer, that's why I tell people who want to become personal trainers. If you work an eight-hour day as a trainer, you have eight clients, You're working eight hours.

48:31Sal Di Stefano:You're tired.

48:31Adam Schafer:There ain't no off. You don't get to go hang out at the water cooler or do whatever. You're with a client for eight hours. You guys be charismatic. You got to be on top of your game, sharp. That's it, dude. You got to be there. Look, if you do 30 hours a week as a trainer, that's what I consider full-time. It's considered full-time.

48:47Sal Di Stefano:30 hours of training clients is a full-time trainer. Have you guys seen - Oh, so for three hours. Okay, so I was off a little bit. That's ridiculous. Eight-hour day, yeah. It's not even half. So not even half the time.

48:56Adam Schafer:Well, I know you have those secret cameras for our employees. Yes.

49:00Sal Di Stefano:Dylan. Nap cam. And then we watch it and laugh. I mean, our team, I'm so impressed with them. We give them a lot of autonomy and freedom around that. We've got a great team. Where we're not overseeing them during a lot of days, right, that we're not in the office. I've randomly come in. Yeah, I randomly come in. Just trying to catch them off their game. I've never caught them goofing off or messing around on YouTube or doing that. They're always true. We have an amazing team here.

49:26Adam Schafer:100 okay so music changes though i'll be honest justin i gotta i so i know you've been have you been seeing this this distant object that scientists are saying this may have heard all about this have you been seeing it i've heard about it i haven't like yeah dug too far into it some scientists are saying it's probably an alien space probe yeah like it's probably not natural because of the trajectory and the speed this is where my conspiracy brain just goes crazy oh that's That's why I brought it up. Come on, dude. There's a huge, it's about the size. Let me see how big it is. Okay, fill me in because I'm not watching the same stuff.

49:59Adam Schafer:We have located a huge something that's moving at the speed of about 36 miles per second. Yeah. And it is seven miles wide. Seven miles wide. Okay, it's huge. And it's not moving like a normal, natural thing in space. No. And so scientists are saying this. Is it coming towards us? Away from us? In our direction. but it won't hit us. But it's moving towards us.

50:26Sal Di Stefano:At one point, we'll get close enough that we can actually in orbit with us. Yeah. Will we see it? I believe so.

50:31Adam Schafer:Doug, see what it says in the news there about that. Just put... Did they say... I mean... Put a possible alien probe and then go and click on news and see what pops up. Have they pointed one of those like Hubble telescopes on it or anything? I don't know how they're following it. To get clear images? Yeah. So the name of it is what? What does that say? We've already named it. Yeah. Look at this. Probing interstellar objects. Oh, it's Snopes, bro. Oh, no. I want to hear what Snopes says, actually. Oh, you do? Okay. Yeah, let's see what Snopes says, even though they've never believed anything. It's likely a comet, according to Snopes.

51:07Adam Schafer:Likely. Okay. But I am going to go back and look at the other articles with scientists. A lot of them are saying, like, here's a Harvard scientist believes that it could be an alien craft. Yeah. So let's go to conspiracy theories. Go to 3I Atlas is the name of the craft. Yeah, because in a few months -

51:21Sal Di Stefano:Conspiracy theories for 500, please.

51:23Adam Schafer:In a few months, I believe it's going to be closer to us.

51:26Sal Di Stefano:Okay, so we'll get to the bottom of this. It is possibly hostile. Yes, possibly hostile. Again, making up stuff. Seven miles wide, that's big.

51:36Adam Schafer:That's big. If that hit Earth, that's like extinction. Big flying object. Yeah, so Justin, what's your theory on why they'd be saying this? Project Bluebeam, dude. Damn. All day. Do you know Project Bluebeam? I do not. You need to look that up. I know. Why have you guys started off doing this stuff? here here's just my food for thought is like where we're at now technology wise with what we can do with drones and like what we can do with um being able to project images uh like we can project really really large images in the sky yep and it's just i'm already seeing i don't know if you've looked but there's been reports too of like down in south america where they're seeing like actual religious iconic imagery that that's in the sky there's like a ring of fire over this other place um i forget where that was but they again people are reporting things in the sky and my brain is immediately oh dude they're just projecting these things to fuck with us project blue bean and i want to know what the roots are doug was this a cia was this like a declassified like where did the roots come up from but project blue bean says that there will be a faked alien invasion that will scare us enough to organize a new world order under a new religion.

52:50Adam Schafer:And it's going to depict this religious figure up there that's going to say this is the real religion. It's going to bring unity amongst the whole world. Unity, yeah. Everybody come together and bring unity. And that's in order to create a new world government. What? Yeah. Well, if you think about it, that would be the most effective way to do it. It's the only way you can do it, yeah. How would you get all the governments and all the people of the world to say, let's all make a big world? You can't see that or nuclear war. Nobody wants that, right? Yeah, so that's my theory too. Yeah. That's my theory too.

53:17Adam Schafer:What's going on over there, buddy? I'll tell you what's going on. These stupid websites keep opening up different things. Okay, so it was originated in 1990s by some Canadian journalist. So that's the conspiracy theory. Yeah, but where do you get his information from? Well, I don't know. I'm trying to open it up and it keeps - There's other links there, Doug. I get it. I get it. We got the boomer on the computer. I'm not a boomer, by the way. reporter i'm gen x i'm the first year of gen x canadian government debunked it i remember there's some story about it yeah and the guy the journalist who came out with it died yeah but then they died and then that just that conspiracy got more popular again so that's kind of how it always goes oh speaking of that so there was this interesting um backstory on um so there's this pbs i think one of those like public broadcasters like this guy devoted his life to to exposing fraud and exposing like a corrupt uh local politicians and local like corrupt cops and so he would go on the news i think this is somewhere in the east coast and would would name names and would literally like tell people um what he's found and and just kept doing this and then and then cops some some of the cops like didn't like this that he was looking into you know some of the corruption and all this and turns out one of those cops is big you know big guy um he he he was like shaking him down he's like stop stop doing this and ended up like beating him up and this happened like four times and then he would he would actually report go on on live tv on uh public broadcasting and he would be he'd be like the last time he was in the hospital and he's like reporting and this guy had beat him up again and so it took him to court the guy gets off no charges nothing right this cop later on um basically he he then uh the the cop gets oh this guy dies mysteriously and then the cop gets arrested for killing four people and so he ends up in prison now this cop and he was he was saying that he has ties to the mob and all this kind of stuff trying to threaten this guy and uh turns out this guy uh this cop he was the last guy in the cell with uh epstein oh so there's like this weird connection there i lost track yeah i lost track all right what's happening but but i caught i caught back up with the epstein back up at the end so there's a cop Sorry.

55:53Adam Schafer:So let me be clear. I think I got it.

55:56Sal Di Stefano:A reporter. A reporter got killed. He was killed mysteriously. And that cop was tied to the reporter. That same cop was in Epstein's show. He ended up getting arrested for killing four other people. Do we need more evidence? Yeah. I know. I was confusing. My bad. But that's the facts.

56:13Adam Schafer:I was trying to follow along. I lost halfway through. I needed like a diagram. Yeah. Bro, do we need more evidence so that Epstein didn't kill himself? Come on.

56:22Sal Di Stefano:where is the latest with it right now?

56:23Adam Schafer:I don't know, dude. Didn't they say they're going to release? We're not going to know anything. Cause it's too integrated with people that are really powerful. I believe, I think first of all, there's one of two options. Here's my theories. Well, option one that they are doing an investigation and really feeling any of it will complicate or, or prevent the real investigation. So they can't let anything out.

56:46Sal Di Stefano:I think it's crazy that we don't, there's not even more talks about like the, the different types of paintings that he had in there. and like what some of them like i mean george bush throwing airplanes at at uh lego block planes it is wild red shoes the blue the blue dress that uh monica lewinsky was was wearing

57:05Adam Schafer:clinton wearing it and come on dude there's some there's some stuff don't look into there's there's other stuff too that's weird oh yeah all the children and stuff that they have yes dude it's Also, Ghislaine Maxwell was, before that, was a recruiter for Disney, for talent, for kids. Was she? Yeah. No. Yes. Are you serious? Yeah. I didn't know that. So there's that tie. Here's the other side. Here's the other theory I have. The other theory I have is that there's so many people implicated that if it all comes out, it'll cause destruction. Yeah. It'll take down everything. I believe that. I believe that.

57:39Sal Di Stefano:And that's the part of me. Everybody's going to throw everybody in the middle. To me, that makes the most sense of why even, because Trump campaigned on, I'm going to release all this stuff. Sure. But if you're now in a position like that, even if it, because I know the default is, oh, he must be in it. But come on, the Democrats would have done that if they'd known that he was in it. So I don't necessarily think it has anything to do per se with him. But I think when they sit down with the people that make this decision, they're like, listen, you put this shit out here and you're going to implicate.

58:04Well, he hung out with him. I'm sure he's on the list. but him having some kind of criminal activity there, I'm sure is...

58:12Sal Di Stefano:I think everybody's going to be on the list. I think you... Did you guys watch the... By the way, since we're on Epstein, what a great interview is the guy who is the... Oh, my God. I cannot think of the... Who used to be the head fox guy that's now by himself. Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson. Did you see Tucker Carlson interview the Epstein invest? Oh, my God. you are i sent to katrina because it was so good because i'm like her and i don't follow a lot of this stuff closely and i'm like and but an opportunity to have somebody who like literally has studied his whole life and he took you through his timeline of his entire life and like this is where he was at from this year to this year this is who he was working with this is who he met and like listening to like how like even his first job that he got and then how he got uh uh fired and then all of a sudden is now working then the very next year after he gets

59:04Adam Schafer:Does anybody know how he got all those millions of dollars? No.

59:06Sal Di Stefano:Well, they can't. And why he was so interested in all these scientists and their latest technology and influence and how he like. Because it was a huge. Brent Weinstein.

59:16Adam Schafer:It was a powerful blackmailing operation. That's it. Period. End of story. They have so much dirt on so many people. Yeah. If you think the president has the power to do this, you're tripping. The CIA and these central, these organizations. And the dismissal of it is such bullshit. They have this power and they don't want to get rid of it. We got blackmail on all these people. We're not going to let the cat out of the bag. They've opened that box. You can't close it. No way, dude. And if nothing happened, by the way, they're like, oh, there's nothing. Why is Jill Zane still in jail if nothing happened?

59:46Adam Schafer:If there's no. It's wild to be she's still alive.

59:49Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah, they're trying to, yeah, use it somehow as a. We'll see. Chest piece. We'll see.

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1:00:39Are 1 ,000 calories worth of protein exactly the same as 1 ,000 calories of carbs or fats? Or do I still have to subtract the thermic effect of food from it?

1:00:49Adam Schafer:All right. All right. So here's where it gets. We can get into the weeds a little bit, but I'll answer the question first. Count it all the same. Yeah. If you try to get into the nuances of thermic effect and all that stuff, like good luck trying to calculate that, you're better off. A gram of protein is four calories. A gram of carbs, four calories. A gram of fat, nine calories. That's the end of the story. Okay. That being said, there is a difference when it comes to protein. We know that protein per gram has what's called a higher thermic effect, meaning it actually burns more calories to eat protein than it does for carbohydrates and fats.

1:01:29Adam Schafer:This is why in studies where the calories are controlled and we're looking at, you know, we're testing different groups, the high protein group, same calories, loses one of the reasons why they lose body fat. Now, simultaneously, it also contributes to more muscle growth, which can also increase the caloric burn because muscle is more thermically active or more metabolically active, let's say, from a calorie-burning perspective, than body fat. But that being said, if you start splitting hairs like this, you've gone way too far. Way down the rabbit hole. Way down the rabbit hole.

1:02:03Sal Di Stefano:It's easy to... The simple answer is what you said. I'll give another example of where this protein makes a big difference. Let's say I had a client, which I've had before, that only eats 1 ,000 calories. So you're grossly under-eating some of your central macronutrients, protein being one of those. and you increase your calories by 1 ,000, from 1 ,000 to 2 ,000 calories, and you get all 1 ,000 from each different macronutrient, you'll see significantly better benefits from getting the 1 ,000 calories from protein.

1:02:31Adam Schafer:Extra protein.

1:02:32Sal Di Stefano:Because that person now will start to hit more of their central proteins, which plays a role in building muscle, which then plays a role in speeding your metabolism up, which then plays a role in you probably leaning out and losing body fat. So from that perspective, they're not all equal in that sense, but I've never calculated thermic effect or like, oh, you know, it's like total calories. No, and you know what's funny about that too? It's irrelevant.

1:02:54Adam Schafer:Yeah, and what's funny about that too, Adam, is like, I mean, if you want to calculate the fluctuations that happen on a minute-by-minute basis, you'd be better off trying to figure out how your metabolism is adapting every single day. But that would also be in futility because it changes all the time. Yeah. You know, the calories in versus calories out, basic understanding is true. Taking less calories than you burn and you lose weight. Taking more calories than you burn, you gain weight. But that calories out part fluctuates dramatically and can be changed dramatically through hormones, through muscle gain, metabolic adaptations, mitochondrial uncoupling, some people would say.

1:03:37Adam Schafer:And then the thermic effect also plays a role. But when you try to account for all that stuff, we don't have machines that read things accurately enough on a day-to-day basis where this would make any sense whatsoever. And I don't see how this would make sense for anybody anyway, unless you're trying to get within one or two calories of your maintenance.

1:03:56Sal Di Stefano:Well, the way it would make sense, the reason why I gave the analogy that I gave is where it would make sense is let's say you're a client who's, I'm going to bump my calories 1 ,000 calories. You're probably better off going 1 ,000 calories of protein for the simple benefits that it has in other places. and then in that sense it makes sense that you're paying attention to like where those thousand

1:04:14Adam Schafer:calories are coming from although that's a lot of grams of protein that was like 250 grams of protein or something ridiculous like that yeah yeah you're right yeah it's a lot i mean you want some carbs and fats that's a good point but i hear what you're saying yeah you're gonna bump 100 calories 200 calories right yeah and you fat is essential too though um there was oftentimes i'd have a female client where she's hitting essential protein not ideal protein uh ideal is you know one gram per pound of body weight generally. But she was hitting essential protein, but she wasn't hitting essential fat.

1:04:41Adam Schafer:So then I would have her start by bumping her fat because if you don't get those essentials, your body just doesn't function. Carbohydrate's non-essential. That doesn't mean it's not a good idea to eat them or it's a good idea to eat. It just means that you don't need to eat them to thrive. You can go with zero carbs and you'd be okay. You can't do that with protein or fats. Next question is from Jamie Yoska. I am an online coach and some of my clients get overwhelmed with using multiple apps. How can I still track their progress virtually without them logging their workouts and nutrition?

1:05:16Sal Di Stefano:This is a perfect example of why you should probably be working with us. I mean, we have a one app high level that we use for all of this. And we have software that we provide. We don't talk a lot about it on the podcast, but for this person and any trainer that's listening, if you guys email kyle at mindpumpmedia.com and have a question regarding this, like we take our trainers through this CRM, so this software, that it's an all-in-one place. And so you manage all of your clients through this one single app and then it communicates to all those things. It's a much simpler way for a trainer that's really trying to scale and build their business.

1:05:55Sal Di Stefano:This is essential. I mean, I think that, I wish this stuff existed back when I was a trainer, but these tools are amazing.

1:06:03Adam Schafer:Now, that being said, it depends on the client, right? You don't want to give your client tracking fatigue or stress or anxiety around tracking everything. You can make your client hyper-aware, too aware of everything to the point where you're no longer improving their quality of life. You just added stress and anxiety.

1:06:21Sal Di Stefano:You could be setting them up for failure.

1:06:22Adam Schafer:You're setting, yeah, yeah. Okay, track all your workouts, all your reps, track your sleep, track every calorie that goes in and your macros and your, and this person is like, this has not improved the quality of my life.

1:06:34Sal Di Stefano:Well, and by the way, Sal, this is not unique to training online. That's right. This is no different than training a person. That's right. And this is when you hear us talk about meeting the client where they're at. Sal shares the famous story with his client all the time where he's like, read one page, nutrition page a week. Like some people getting them to track macros, weigh themselves, take side pictures, front pictures, enter the app, watch their, I mean, that is just way too much. And what makes a good trainer is knowing that about each individual client going like, okay, it's a lot of work for this client to just hit steps consistently.

1:07:09Sal Di Stefano:And so that might be all we really focus on, you know? And then the next step. And, like, you just build upon that. So this is not unique to virtual coaching. This is coaching clients, is knowing how much you task out to them and meeting them where they're currently at.

1:07:24Adam Schafer:It might start like this. Like, did you work out? How was it? That might be the only thing that we track right now. It was good. Perfect. Now we're going to talk about how you feel and stuff like that. And then it may turn into, let's track these two exercises. I don't care about the other ones. These are the two that I want to see you get stronger at. So how much did you lift last week in your squat? How much did you lift this week in your squat? And then maybe you move to tracking nutrition, but it might just look like, did you eat protein first? And then it might turn into, did you eat 30 grams of protein?

1:07:51Adam Schafer:And so on and so on. But a lot of coaches and trainers, and even people who are trying to accomplish some fitness goals. They go with like everything. They bring so much awareness, so much hyper awareness on everything that, uh, at some point they're like, I don't want to do this. This is stressful and anxiety inducing. It's causing, causing body dysmorphia or hyper. I got to get out of this. It should feel good. And it should feel it. You definitely should meet someone where they're at. So when it comes to the apps and the tracking, uh, you have to monitor who it's appropriate with and who it's not.

1:08:24Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, I mean, I'm going to continue to stress too because a lot of our focus in this business right now is helping coaches and trainers like yourself. This is part of the mentoring process that we do with the coaches in there is helping you through this process. There is an art to being able to, one, know how to meet a client when they're at, and then two, also communicate to them, for example, why they might not be seeing the results that they're wanting to see because that's the next layer to this question or challenge is, okay, so I've got this client that is just hard to do all these things, but yet you know in order to get them to see results, they need to hit protein, they need to be consistent with the work, they need to do all those things.

1:09:00Sal Di Stefano:And so how do I communicate to them that there's a reason why we're not seeing maybe the results we want, yet at the same time too meeting them where they're currently at, which is hardly anything. And there's an art to that. There's an art to being able to paint that. And we talk a lot, we use the word forecasting with our trainers all the time is a good trainer forecasts really well on like what's going to probably happen based off what we're currently doing and how we're doing it.

1:09:27Adam Schafer:The struggles of challenges.

1:09:28Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, so that when the client does their, you know, monthly check-in on their weight or scale and they don't see great results, but then all I've gotten Susie to do at this point is read one nutrition page and say, well, yeah, of course, we're not hitting protein intake. We're not doing these things, but that's okay. You know what? What you did this month is you read a page out of that nutrition book every single day. You've never done that. We're moving in the right direction. I know we're not where you want, but that's okay. it's all right everybody starts from somewhere so you learning to do that uh is an art and makes the distinguishes the difference in my opinion of a a good coach and a great coach next question is from laurie madel can i drink alcohol three to five drinks per week and still make progress in

1:10:07Adam Schafer:building muscle i don't know justin can you hell yeah brother yeah you totally can build it yeah it's just that's the thing it's if you're trying to smash alcohol into like a performance goal or like a weight loss goal it's a bad idea i mean it's just not beneficial in any fashion building

1:10:27Sal Di Stefano:is building with alcohol is much easier than cutting and performance with alcohol yeah yeah because alcohol destroys sleep alcohol alcohol is not going to help performance alcohol is extra empty calories very difficult when i'm gauging performance and sleep when i'm gauging weight loss but if i'm on the bulk um empty calories isn't the worst thing the thing you have to watch out for is when those calories replace calories you need when they replace essential things like fat and protein because they still are calories and they still take up some room and if you are not hitting your macro targets that you're supposed to and in addition to that you're eating in a alcohol caloric surplus yeah you're gonna have a hard time building muscle totally

1:11:12Adam Schafer:but you know, let's, let's, let's get a little deeper, right? Uh, three to five drinks a week spread out. Like I have five drinks, but it's one drink a night is way different than five drinks in one day. Like if you drink all of them in one day, that's going to have a much more detrimental effect, uh, on your ability to make any progress than if it was spread out during the week. Here's the other thing too. Like everybody needs to relax about making progress. Like what's going to compromise. Look, if you don't have a problem with alcohol, if you actually enjoy yourself and you like to enjoy the occasional glass of wine with dinner and you're with your family and friends and it's improving your quality of life, who cares?

1:11:50Adam Schafer:Like it's not that big of a deal. You're going to compete on stage. You're going to be a bodybuilder. Cut it out, right? You got to get, you get a 3 % body fat, get shredded. Like you're not doing anything that's off the program, but for the average person, you know, one drink at night. You get real gradual progress, like, you know not hitting every single mark and that's really what it amounts to it's like if you're talking about being super dialed but then smashing something in that isn't helpful that's stupid yeah but you know again and if you look at the data on alcohol here's what's interesting uh you'll find data that'll support that one glass of wine a day improves your health now it's not because the wine is necessarily healthy but i think it's when they look at the cultures that do this what they're finding is these are people that spend time together i mean everybody in this room drinks

1:12:34Sal Di Stefano:yeah yeah i mean i just did a i did an instagram post of me drinking the last post i did was me uh drinking whiskey and my wife drinking champagne on the weekend and so absolutely it's a part i do think there is a uh and you never know i have like no idea who we're talking to right and i've had many many clients ask this before and when it's a problem is when my client says they i can't give up this thing right when you have this attachment yeah to something well then there's probably a deeper problem there than having this balance of alcohol. Because I'm all for a great weekend with your wife where you have a few drinks and sit by the pool or do your thing.

1:13:11Sal Di Stefano:Like, I think that has tremendous health benefits. That's right. Relationship health benefits. And so I'm for it. But if you can't go a week of your life without having a drink every single day, or you can't have a week where you don't get drunk on the weekend, like, there's probably something more there than that and that's underlining more than it is the calories with alcohol.

1:13:30Adam Schafer:And there's a difference between drinking and getting drunk. There's a very big difference from a health perspective. Drinking, probably okay for the most part, if everything else is healthy or whatever, especially if you're bonding with other people. Getting drunk, usually never healthy. So, I mean, even like I have a very specific goal during that whole performance goal, I was not drinking. Right. I just was like, this isn't helping, so I'm not going to do it. There's a time for it. As simple as that, that I started drinking again when I was done.

1:13:58Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. i mean i'm with you and you there's also a period in your life too when you're trying to get it like uh trying to get a hold of you yourself metabolically and so where this becomes very detrimental is and we're just i have no idea of this person let's just pretend this is also the person who you know has yo-yo dieted like crazy only normally eats about 1200 to 1500 calories does all the crazy high intensity classes when they're on their kick but then also you know has sunday fun day with the girls and drinks five to seven drinks or whatever like that like okay well those five to seven drinks are such a significant portion of your calorie intake because because your metabolism is so slow because you haven't spent the time building a mentality now take somebody who's metabolic healthy like a justin who is easily can eat 3 000 plus calories and and

1:14:49Adam Schafer:then has these sitting yeah then has those moments where you have a couple days where you

1:14:55Sal Di Stefano:Not a big deal. So a lot of this question has to do with, one, your relationship with that alcohol, okay, and what's really going on there. Two, where you're currently at metabolically. And three, how long or how often do we have to do this thing? It's like you absolutely can be healthy and fit and have alcohol. Everybody in this room does. There's nobody. In fact, has anybody in this room gone more than a week and not had a drink? Oh, I do that all the time. No, I mean like currently, right? Oh, currently. I mean, I know I drank in the last seven days.

1:15:26Adam Schafer:I think I had a margarita over the weekend. Actually, it was weird, yeah, because I went to my favorite Mexican place, and I had water, and I was like, this is blasphemy. What? You like margaritas. Has it been more than a week since you drank? No, I had something last night. That's what I'm saying.

1:15:38Sal Di Stefano:So, I mean, you're talking about four people that obviously care a lot about health and fitness, yet still find moments for that. But we can also, everyone in this room can probably say, oh, there's probably been a month straight where I have no alcohol. Right. So it's like, it doesn't have a hold on me like that. And so whenever I had a client that would say things like this to me, you know, to me, there's more questions. Yeah, exactly. There's more questions I'm going to want to ask because a lot of times, I mean, I remember having this, the last time I had this conversation was with an aunt of mine and she, you know, she was like on her kick where she wants to get in shape and she's like, but I don't want to give up my wine at night.

1:16:14Sal Di Stefano:And it's just like, man, when you say something like that to me, there's an issue there. It's like, you mean to tell me you can't not have a bottle of wine every single night? And then you want me to help you get healthy and fit?

1:16:25Adam Schafer:Especially when you're making room for the wine by cutting out food. And that's really why. I've had clients do that before. Like, well, what if I have the two glasses of wine and I cut out this other stuff over here? And I'm like, well, now we're playing an interesting game. So that might not be the best strategy.

1:16:37Sal Di Stefano:Well, yeah, because the questions that we asked earlier about calories do matter. But then your body also needs these other essential macronutrients. and if alcohol is getting in the way of you consistently hitting these other macros that are essential to you living a healthy lifestyle, building muscle, being fit. It's not a good trade. It's not a good trade at all. Now, you get to a place where you get your metabolism healthy, you understand what your body needs and then you have the occasional three to five drinks. Yeah, hell yes. You're fine. And I'm for that. Next question is from JoshyJ93.

1:17:08What are the short and long-term goals of Mind Pump?

1:17:11Adam Schafer:Ah, I love it. You know, the long-term goal is the same as it was when we first started the podcast. It's the same. And the long-term goal has been and always will be - World domination. That's it.

1:17:23Sal Di Stefano:Change as many lives as we can.

1:17:25Adam Schafer:To shift the fitness industry in a better direction, to influence the industry of fitness, the media, the commercials, the information that's out there - The traders. That is beneficial because the fitness industry for a long time puts out a lot of terrible information and really hasn't been a force for good. And so that's always been the goal of Mind Pump. And I think we've made some headway in some areas. So that's the long-term goal. Short-term goal recently is now moving in the area of trainers and coaches. We have finally stepped in. Now the podcast has always had a lot of trainers and coaches listen to it.

1:18:01Adam Schafer:But now we're actually moving into equipping them and hiring them. We actually have trainers and coaches that work for us now. And we're growing that department. And now we want to, you know, the first goal, the first short goal was to really work on the consumers and help educate them so that they can tell the difference between good and bad information and just present the good information better than the bad guys can present the bad information. Now we're working on the inside, the soldiers, and that's the trainers and coaches. Nobody can influence people with their health and fitness more.

1:18:33Adam Schafer:There's nobody that'll have more of an impact than a good coach or a good trainer. And so now the goal is specifically to create more of them, both by hiring and by educating.

1:18:43Sal Di Stefano:And I think we had to do it in the order that we did. You know, I think back to when I used to get a new step, right? So back in the company that we all worked for, right, 24 Hour Fitness back in the days, it was common that you would run a club for a period of time and then they would move you to another club, typically after you've done really well or you've done really bad, right? They move you for one of those two reasons. and the reasons of the guys in this room was normally they did really well. And then they got moved to another club to go fix that club or build it. And you get a new staff.

1:19:14Sal Di Stefano:And so here I am, even though I had great success at the last club, I'm at a new club. I have 15 trainers that are working for me who maybe kind of know me but don't really know me. And now I'm in and I'm their boss. Like mistake won by some leaders or managers would be to come in and start telling them all how to be better coaches and trainers. I always didn't say anything and I just let them watch. So first thing I do is go in and quietly do their jobs and do it better so that I can earn the respect of all of them to tell them how to do their jobs better. And so when you think about what we did with the podcast, that was like, we're going to come out and go help people and we're going to help a lot of people.

1:19:49Sal Di Stefano:And we're going to do it so good, so well that millions of people find out about us and thousands and tens of thousands of trainers know about us. Now we have that respect. And so now we have this ability to go, okay, now we've garnered that attention and respect. now we can go in and really coach and teach them and that's the main focus right now is to really impact the trainer side of the house and it's where a lot of our energy there is there hasn't

1:20:11Adam Schafer:been uh and we're trying to create this there has not been a standard for coaches and trainers there's been there hasn't been a place that you could point to where you could say that's the standard for coaches and trainers there's good coaches and trainers that have been out there there's always been really good coaches and trainers like a Hippocratic yeah there's no like standard like oh that's the place those are the trainers that all trainers should to aspire to be like so what we're trying to do now is create that standard of what it's like of trainers that train clients the right way with a long-term success in mind with helping people develop these relationships with fitness where they do it for the rest of their lives without resorting to things like today's the last day or you know here's your before and after we're going to make Like, you know, really doing it the right way.

1:20:56Adam Schafer:And that's what we're trying to create now. And that's the short-term goal. But again, it's geared towards the long-term goal. It always has been to try to shift the industry and lead it and lead this industry so that when the consumer goes on and hears crap on Instagram or TikTok or whatever, they know. They point out, wait, this is not true. That's not really how it works. And this guy's not going to sell me this product because I know it's false promises and that doesn't sound right. and that's still the goal. 10 years later, that's always going to be the goal. Outcompete the charlatans. That's it, 100%.

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