2706: The Best 3-Day a Week Back Routine (Listener Live Coaching)

28:29You ready for this? Men get more desperate or check out. Women get more selective but less satisfied. It's a negative sum equilibrium. If you strip away morality, what you're seeing is nature's base code exposed and scaled. It isn't women being unfair or men being victims. It's an emergent system where old evolutionary heuristics collide with new technological conditions. It produces exactly this distribution. So it's a chart that shows the distribution of how women are picking men. And then what men do is they're just going, like, do what I can. And then the men at the top, here's what's crazy about this.

29:02The men who are getting all the attention are becoming less and less likely to become monogamous. Of course. Because they're getting all this attention. So it literally destroys. it's destroying dating it's destroying relationships because technology is it's amplifying what women do and it's amplifying what men tend to do when they have that kind of selection how crazy is that it's crazy it's wild it's funny because you get a lot of people that praise it because they met their spouse or significant other on a dating app and it worked for them I know my mom that's how my mom met her husband and like but I kind of wondered what this would look like when you played it out 5, 10, 15 years.

29:45And what's happened is like you're right. The 1 % has rose to the top and they have all the selection in the world and then everybody else just got gobbled up. I know guys who are 6 foot tall, make well over 6 figures. They're in their now early 40s and they just have, they just pick whoever they want. They don't care. Oh, I have a buddy. That's a big one, right? They make sure they let other women know like no he's not really like uh six foot you know give a heads up and it's like no i have a buddy who's he doesn't really make who's our age yeah it's not married yeah and you know he'll have five dates a week yep yeah it's lined up because he's got those yeah but unhappy and lonely that's the part everybody's unhappy and lonely that's the part that's crazy about it but yet who i mean what when at least not in like i don't remember anybody when we were growing up that could say they dated five different girls in the same week before something like this happened?

30:40No, you had to be a celebrity. Yeah, yeah. Or you had to be like in the nightclubs every night for something like that to even possibly happen. And so naturally that would never happen. But now it's so easy that he just picks his phone up and he can literally book five dates. Watch this. Doug, if you can use AI or the search, say what percentage of men in America are over six feet tall, make over$150 ,000 a year and don't have children and are in their late 20s. And let's see what that comes up. It's a very small percentage. And so what's happening is women who are naturally selective, they're supposed to be selective.

31:16Which, by the way, tends to be like the top three things that most of them, not all, obviously are looking for. That's right. For someone that was height, you know what I'm saying? You're looking for someone that makes a decent amount of income and maybe not have kids yet. Yeah. And it's like... Yeah. And watch what happens when he... And you didn't throw six-pack abs or fit in there either. No, you put in there that, you're 0.2%. I remember I did that to my wife once. I was like, hey, babe, look how rare I am. You're really killing it. It backfired. Oh, yeah, she was so bad. I mean, what do you think you are, dude?

31:46I was like, oh, no. What does that say, Doug? Did you pull it up? Yeah, it's less than 2%. Less than 2%. Well, 2.3%. 2.3%. Yeah. And that's not even throwing in the fit part. No. You're including guys that are not fit. Yeah, throw in their fit. You throw under 15 % body fat. You don't have to put rip. Just put under 15 % body fat. That cuts that big time. And the reason why this happens is women are supposed to be selective. This is not a bad thing that they're selective. They make men kind of present themselves and shape up or whatever. But when they have this, like the guy said, fire hose of access, now you have, well, this is now the dude that can date 15 women.

32:25And then other really good guys who would probably be very happy getting with and marrying and whatever and having kids with doesn't even get your attention. Well, you have a celebrity example of this. we've talked about this kind of off air about uh what we're watching in real time happen to dan balzerian yeah i mean you like he now he's talking monogamy and so with that but it's like the guys had so much access to all the like the one percent supermodel girls that imagine trying to settle down uh after that it's just unbelievably difficult even though i think he believes that that's the right thing to do and that's where he wants to be i think he didn't get married did he actually i think he did get married did he i think no way i think so i mean i don't follow him closely enough i just remember when that that came out where he started talking about monogamy he's not married okay so he isn't maybe he was just talking about it yeah yeah but i know that i mean imagine how difficult that is so it's like in a sense both people are losing out which is weird though because don't you guys feel like i don't hear that from people or and maybe it's just because i'm talking to the people that it worked for you know like like do you hear i don't hear a lot of like you know even my but even my buddy who were i'm describing and so that he's not complaining about the app yeah he's not complaining about i see it from the outside looking in going like you know what too i know who you're talking about yeah he's a great guy yeah well yeah he fits he's like six foot good looking poor guy though poor guy because as time goes on you know he's gonna look back and be like oh man what did i do yeah you know yeah so i mean so what's the answer though right so meet people around you meet people through friends meet people through community go outside talk to people yeah you know that's the way to do it i think all this is more just pointing more towards what i believe what i think is the pendulum is going to swing back i think you're right you know community especially with the eye yeah i mean did you guys hear about the uh that new app that uh service you know like dog walking's been a thing for a long time right like you could like you can get online and find some people to walk your dog about that like human walking is a service now.

34:26But that highlights how much we're thirsty. You're not talking about the weird kind in San Francisco. No, no, no, not that kind. I've seen that. That's how thirsty we are for connection with other people. They sign up to walk together. Yeah, that people want to do that. Which, by the way, I've told this to our in-house trainers and our trainers that we coach and mentor and stuff like that. If you're a trainer, I think this is such the move right now. Walking groups. Yes, it's starting a walking group for free where you just meet with people once a week or a couple times a week at 7 a.m. or 8, whatever time works, and offer the service at free and turn it into a big community thing.

35:04And if you do it for free, watch how many people you can get to do it. And then once you've got that many people for free, watch how many people convert into clients. You know, change subject because I see a note up here reminding me of something. I think you wrote this up there, Justin, so I want to know what you have to say. But yeah, I took my daughter to a football game on Saturday. And we pull into the parking lot. It was at one of the colleges here. And she doesn't like football. She's just hanging out with her friends, right? But we pull in the parking lot, and I'm waiting for her friends to show up.

35:32So while we're in the parking lot, I see these kids organizing something. And what it was is they were organizing this boy to ask this girl to homecoming. So her friends kind of brought her over there. And he comes out with this big sign. A dude's dressed up in this costume. and they do this big elaborate thing, you know? Which we didn't really do that when we were kids, right? We just asked. Yeah. Did you guys do that in high school? Some people, you know, yeah, it wasn't really like a huge thing. It was now. It's just like everything else. Like there's the push present. There's this present.

36:02There's that present. I don't know. I feel like things get invented. So when we were kids, Sadie Hawkins was a big event like that. That's what the girl invented. Because the girls were creative like that. So girls would always make, like I remember my girlfriend made like this, elaborate candy candy bar like poem asking me things. It was like this big cardboard thing and like all the candy bars were part of the poem or whatever like that to ask me to the dance. So girls used to do that at least when we were in high school when the girls asked the guys It was so much more thoughtful. No really.

36:36I'm sure as time has gone on the new generation of Well because they film them. They were actually filming it So I know they're going to post that. I saw these kids filming it too. Well, yeah, and it's funny because my son went and I was bringing it up because he went stag and his other friends did too. And they were just like over it because of a lot of this stuff. Wow. With women's expectations and like these girls. Again, this is really unappealing to young men. You know what's crazy about that? It's like, ugh, I just want to go hang out. You're talking about Ethan, right? Yeah. He's a good-looking, jacked, tall kid.

37:12Yeah. he's actually a very good looking tall i mean he's a gymnast top level so he and you're telling me he's sick of yeah oh my god well and i mean he he had a girlfriend early on like when he went to school at this new school and then um you know they parted ways amicably but it it it's still like i guess there's like chatter and all so he's dealing with like you know once one girl says something then all the girls they think of you know he's a certain way or whatever and he's just like over the drama of it all and it's like i'm like yeah you don't have to do that i was like your best solution right now just focus on getting jacked yeah they always always pay attention to that always they can say whatever they want but when you're jacked they will find you and he's like okay dad it's like they rebranded hoko too i was like what why they always gotta to rebrand everything they call hoko why i have no idea but that's just what they do sure yeah shorter you know it's i guess you know i have such good advice for a young man too because like actually working out the discipline involved the structure you're taking your focus off of like all the whatever yeah you know because you're young you're only 16 like you're probably better off focusing on that anyway and i think girls don't really realize that till later to kind of chill out with all that stuff like and so i think it's good for for him to just like be focused like work on your sport do good in school get jacked like they'll they'll find a good one will find you do your homework that's like trying to do your homework workout get a job as a young teenage boy like you're cool yeah stay focused he's gonna be on the on the on the path that's so great dude i got a funny i told adam this morning i gotta tell you justin the funniest thing happened uh yesterday So my niece, Jessica's niece, now lives with us, right?

39:04She's going to be going to college down here. 18-year-old kid, love her, love her to death. And so she was going to go to school down here. We're like, hey, you can come stay with us. We have an extra room. So she just moved in and her parents brought her down and then left. So yesterday was her first full day with us without her parents, right? So anyway, her family and her niece are totally secular. There's no religion, no faith, no nothing whatsoever. obviously our house is very you know we're very faith-filled home and so Jessica had this conversation we're like look like we live the way we do but let's not press it on her uh because she's a teenage kid like let's just we'll love on her like we do and let's just not try to talk to her about if she asks questions that's fine but I don't want to push her away and I don't want to feel like she's you know you know out of place or something like that right so we had this big conversation so yesterday was the first day her parents were gone so we're all sitting around the coffee table and we're making a party favors.

40:00Cause we're getting ready for my son's, uh, my four year old's going to turn five for his birthday. So we're making them. And again, we just literally had this conversation. So she's sitting there making party favors. My son Aurelius walks up to her. He puts his hands on his hips. Her name, her name is Liberty. And he goes, so Liberty, do you know Jesus? I'm like, Oh my God, what's happening? He starts evangelizing her. And I'm looking at, I'm like, what is happening? The biblical stories that he knew Bro, I filmed half of it because I couldn't believe what he was saying. He's like, did you know Samson?

40:32He killed all these Philistines with the jawbone of a dog. I'm like, I didn't even know he knew this stuff. But he's totally evangelizing. He reminds me a lot of my godson and of my buddy. So you have to tell me, is he just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk? Or can he sit in the car and be silent? Oh, he loves to ask questions and talk. Yeah, so he's nonstop talking. That's how my godson is. Were you guys up there? You guys weren't at Disneyland with them, right? Yeah, we were at Disneyland. With them? Yeah, so, okay, so that was so funny. The day before, I didn't even know my best friend wasn't coming.

41:02I assumed he was, I just assumed his kids were there, his wife's there. I just thought, we've all been so busy, and I thought I would see him. Then the night before, Katrina's like, oh, yeah, you know Justin's not coming. I'm like, what? What do you mean Justin's not coming? She's like, yeah. And I'm like, what? I text him. He's like, I thought you knew. I'm like, no, I had no idea. So he stayed home and worked. His wife and mother-in-law and their two kids. So it was you and your family and then. Yeah. And then just me, Katrina, and Max. And we didn't go with them. We met them and saw them there.

41:31And we did the whole Halloween bash thing that Disneyland does. It's really cool. We did that. Remember when we were in Disney World last year, all of us? We were in Florida. I went and took Max to that. And he's really into Halloween. I mean, you guys know he's like the villains and the characters. He must have been. Yeah. He just loves that. And so I've justified, because I remember before Max got this age, I told Katrina I didn't want to take him to any of these places until he was old. You don't even remember half the stuff you do before five. That's true. And so I was like, hey, how about we wait?

42:03It's more for you. It is. Exactly. I'm like, let's wait until he's like seven, eight, nine, or when he's really asking to go. And so I lost that argument. So we went last year. We went again this year. but I do enjoy seeing him do the Halloween thing because he really gets into it. I mean we get all dressed up. He was dressed up. We did the whole thing and Disneyland does do a really cool Halloween bash. He still is not ready for the ride so he just and you know again I'm more like I get all frustrated that we're even toting him around and make him do this. Spend all this money to go to Disneyland and we don't do any rides.

42:40It's so expensive. And Katrina's on the opposite side. She's just like all encouraging. so good he did like four this time and he at least got on there there was no crying and i'm like yeah but he like literally closed his eyes looked at the ground wouldn't watch anything that he was doing like you could tell the poor kid doesn't want to be on the ride but he's like mustering it up to go go through the whole process but he's just so scared i did get a little bit i did feel better on the the second morning i'm getting up to go get an energy drink down in the little Disney store below and I see a boy probably my son's age maybe even a year older waiting in line and the ladies it's like oh are you excited for the ride today and the kid was just like kind of just like stone-faced didn't really respond to her then walked away and she kind of chuckled she goes oh the boys the boys are always the last ones to enjoy the rides like that I go oh really is that pretty she's like oh yeah she's like very common the girls always are more seek adventure no more about the boys are always true I know I didn't realize my daughter's definitely true with my son it's definitely true with my son look that up Doug see if that's true because my daughter's with Everett yeah for sure oh man a long time to to come around oh yeah Max is just he is I mean he again we did a couple of them but he you could tell is not that's wild about Everett I would never imagine because he's so like he'll jump off of something that he shouldn't yeah and he'll do the scariest things but I showed you the did I show you the picture yeah oh yeah oh yeah bro he's at school he's playing tackle football they're not allowed to play tackle football he just does it anyway and uh he was like going for a pass trips falls right on the curb on his face and has this huge raspberry like on his face he showed me the picture oh yeah yeah and then he goes right to lacrosse practice but yeah so that i think and then i told you a story when i was like pressing him to go on this ride and he was just like dad no no no and i got so mad and then i just went up on my own and anyway i was glad that he didn't go on it because it would literally like traumatized him so i was like oh good but yeah it took him a while to come around now he's like all about it what does it say doug so it doesn't seem to be any uh hard evidence that girls are faster than boys however i found this interesting women tend to enjoy amusement parks more than men in the u.s oh yeah that makes sense i didn't know i had like i wouldn't go with just i had never thought about it but when i look at when i look at my my goddaughter and his son it's that way to hear that lady who works at Disneyland say that was like, okay, that's reassuring.

45:05Knowing that it's not just my son who's terrible. So my boy won't. He won't. He won't go on stuff that's a little scary. Dahlia, she's so young. She's not even three yet. She'll be, for sure, she'll be the one to jump on stuff. For sure. Did you guys ever do, because since we're getting close to Halloween, did you guys ever do like legit haunted houses when you were a teenager? Yeah, dude. You did? Oh, yeah. The chainsaws. Gnarly. People running after you with an axe. Over here with the Bay has a couple. they shut some malls down and turn them all and you did them i can't believe yeah that stuff is so in person i guess doing something like that although i wouldn't say like i loved them i did them i did them you're probably pressured it yeah yeah it's more like being in high school and everyone's going it's like i'm not that much of a wuss room like i'm not gonna go you know yeah and but yeah so i don't i don't recall loving them but i also did a few of them like And Bay Area has some pretty cool ones over here.

46:00I always get mad because there'd be like one clown that just wouldn't leave you alone. And you're just like, okay, you're trying to pick on me because I'm the guy in the group or whatever. And this guy was just like, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh. And I was like, meh. Like, what are you going to do? You're a prop. I did one when I was 15 with my cousin. This is right around where you think you're kind of like a badass or whatever. And we went with some, I think there were some girls. And we were trying to be cool. and so my cousin was like, yeah, we're not going to scream. And you're going around corners and there's like little scenes that are all bloody and like killers and they come chase you and all that stuff.

46:35And so we were doing well. Like nobody was scaring us. But then we go around this corner and I did not know there was a guy on the ceiling. Oh, God jumped out? He was dressed up as Alien. You know the movie Alien? And so when we're walking, it's pitch black. A strobe light comes on and he comes off the ceiling and reaches after you. That's legit. Oh, we squealed. I for sure would have squealed. i'll never forget that it's like burned in my memory it's fun yeah i definitely scares the hell out of me i saw do you guys decorate yet are you are you we only we carved a couple pumpkins i know it's early because we'll carve some more but that's all we did so far yeah we're all we're all decorative so we did all that i saw yeah they did your pictures yeah this weekend so yeah he loves all that stuff right he's all about he's about all that like he loves the skeletons and all the things but he is still like he still he it has to be something that is like still playful and like I don't know, something too scary.

47:29I don't know if you remember, I bought one. I gave it away to, who has it in my family? Oh, my other sister-in-law. She has it. I bought one of those crazy, huge animated ones. And it has a head that it's carrying. Oh, come on, bro. That's way too much. And it said something crazy. A severed head, bro? Yeah, yeah, bro. I thought because he was so into Halloween, I'm like, oh, he's going to love this. And he's like, nah. And he won't go to. Gee, I wonder why. He won't go to the Halloween spirit store. It's too much. Well, because that stuff jumps out at you over there. Yeah, because it's all over there.

48:01So he won't even walk in the store. So as much as he likes all those things, he's still timid about certain ones. It's like it has to be kind of playful, fun, cartoonish. It's fun. Yeah, yeah. It's fun. See, we'd even take that when I was in college to the next level. Like we would just try really hard to freak everybody out. Oh, yeah. And then we would go drive like long disc because we'd hear of like some story. of this like abandoned church that was haunted and like we would take guys and we would go there and like who's gonna like touch the handle first oh come on who's gonna you know and then somebody would mess dude yeah there was a period where it was like that was a big thing was to scare the shit out of each other i saw there was a video maybe you brought it up where people were driving their teslas yes through cemeteries yes that's real and teslas will show yes you know they'll show you in the digital part of the tesla where you're looking at the screen i want to show you that real walking real time and people are going to watch all kinds of youtube videos on it it's crazy there's all kind of we had this conversation with my family a couple weekends ago and they didn't believe me and i'm like oh look it up and so they start they're like oh my god this is real dude oh look at all these videos you can see it happening it is wild bro speaking of and i and i've i've yet to hear a good explanation of why and it's not like uh so what you what someone thought they're like oh i bet when you pull in it it reads the tombstones as people i'm like oh no they're They're walking.

49:22They're walking around the car and moving. And you're in a cemetery, dude. It is literally nobody out there whatsoever. And all of a sudden, they start walking all around the car. That is weird. I think it's probably some Tesla engineers having a good time. So they look that up. It's not either. We try to disprove it and figure it out. And we went down this rabbit hole one night at dinner with all my family. That's scary, dude. They were tripping out. I'm cool. That's creepy. I'm not doing that. Speaking of Tesla, you see they're getting ready to drop their new phone. Oh, so tell me. Yeah, I want to know the specs.

49:54So, okay, if I understand this correctly, it is going to be directly linked to Starlink, and the Wi-Fi will be part of the service. What do you mean? So, like, you won't have to pay. You'll be able to go. You just buy the phone and you get it? Yes. And it automatically links. So you get Wi-Fi for free? Yes, anywhere in the world. Well, that's. Well, yeah. Because it's disrupting. I can go anywhere. Fact check me, Doug, to make sure. Is that the Tesla phone? Apple's going to feel this. Oh, dude, are you kidding? is going to really hurt, especially considering the knock on Apple ever since Jobs has been gone is that they really haven't really innovated anything.

50:26It's been like the same kind of recycle, recycle, and there's been a lot of critiques of that business already. What does it say there, Doug? Yeah, any innovation, they stopped. Even the Apple car, they went a couple different directions, but they just cut funding and focused on the phone. And that's a big part of Apple's revenue, so you want to talk about shorting a stock right now, dude. It's all their cash. You can go on and buy them now? I don't know. Hold on. It says Tesla phones. They do have them up. I can't say that you can buy them yet. Okay. Well, their stock's going to go through the roof.

51:00Well, yeah, that's... You get free Wi-Fi? What a... Pretty sick. What a freaking angle. And Starlink, I've never used it. Supposedly, it's amazing. Amazing. Yeah, in the ocean, you could be anywhere. That's right? That's what it's supposed to be. Well, if you have free Wi-Fi, why would you need cell service? You wouldn't. You wouldn't. You don't need nothing, right? Is this like a satellite? Yeah. So you probably have to be outside, though. Satellite doesn't typically work inside. Is that like WhatsApp where you run through that? No, because when you're inside, Doug, you use your normal Wi-Fi.

51:29Okay. You know what I'm saying? As long as you have it. There is no official Tesla phone. Okay. Well, I know they've talked about wanting to do it. That's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. All right. I'm going to change directions and talk about a fatty acid that we work with a partner called fatty 15 so that sounds funny it's a funny name i was teasing justin about that i'm like justin i named it you guys i knew that was gonna fall on me somehow no so i looked up studies it's called c15 or c17 let me look it up just to make sure c15 c15 so this is a fatty acid that's found in dairy and a lot of us don't get enough of it and i think that this is the net this is the fat this fatty acid is going to be like omega-3 fatty acids in terms of supplementing uh they show in studies that it reduces inflammation.

52:20It is connected to lower risk of heart disease. It's anti-inflammatory. It's got insulin sensitizing effects. It seems to inhibit cancer cell growth in certain models. So this is a fatty acid that supplementing with, you should see, and the data on this is pretty remarkable. That's why we're working with it. What's your thoughts on like why, like if and when do you think we'll start having like doctors recommend like they do omegas. I think omega tends to be like a staple supplement that most doctors - Remember this, a fish oil and omega-3 fatty acids were recommended by the wellness industry way before it was recommended mainstream.

52:58It wasn't until not that long ago that the studies continued to pile up, pile up, pile up, and they said, hey, this is actually beneficial. So is that your prediction on this too? Yes. Because I didn't hear about this until this company. You're the one that made us privy to this. Yep. That this is going to become one of those things that we'll hear in the wellness space for probably a few years, maybe even a decade. Who knows how long it'll take before doctors start adopting it. But it's that impactful. Yes. And so what's interesting about this is, so there's a little bit of it in beef and lamb, but it's mostly in full-fat dairy.

53:28And a lot of people, we still eat a lot of dairy. People consume a lot of dairy. Not a lot of people consume a lot of full-fat dairy. And so we're missing out on some of these benefits of this particular fatty acid. Yeah, that makes sense. It's especially beneficial. We cut that out of our diets. That's right. Another case for raw milk, huh? Well, I mean, if you look at it, raw milk is great. But if you look at, like someone like me, like I don't have dairy in my diet because it doesn't do well with me. But I can have dairy fat. I can't have dairy proteins. So this is a fatty acid that I supplement with for some of these benefits.

54:01And I think it will be along the lines of what we see with fish oil moving forward. You're not what you eat. You are what you digest. Look, digestive enzymes can help you break down proteins, fats, and carbohydrates to maximize what you eat. Get those nutrients to the areas you want like muscle and recovery. Help with digestion. Go check out the best company that offers these, Masszymes. Go to masszymes.com. That's M-A-S-S-Z-Y-M-E-S.com forward slash MindPump. Use the code MindPump10. Get 10 % off any order. Here comes the show. Our first caller is Kevin from South Carolina. Hey, Kevin. What's up, Kevin?

54:41Hey, guys. How's it going? Good. How can we help you? So I'm Kevin. I'm 41 years old. I'm a husband, father of three. I have to give you guys the obligatory flowers that people always do. Found you guys maybe a year, year and a half ago. Just looking for a podcast to listen to, to prove myself physically, mentally. Clicked on the first one. It ended up being something about muscle mommies, build your butt. I didn't really, I was pot committed. I listened to it anyway. I didn't get a ton out of it. But you guys dove into some parenthood topics and fatherhood topics and, you know, kind of what it was to be the example for your sons and to be the measuring stick for your daughters when they start dating.

55:25And that really resonated with me. So I'm glad I stuck around and listened. Since taking your advice, I've definitely improved my diet, prioritized protein and whole foods. and I've lost some weight, put on some muscle. Virtually every aspect of my life has gotten easier, better, getting out of bed in the morning, you know, sitting up from a chair and picking things up, putting things down, just you name it. Life in general has just become easier since I've been listening to you guys and taking your advice. So cheers to you very, very much. Appreciate the advice on the podcast. Appreciate that, Kevin.

56:04Great. Thank you, man. So to my question, I work a pretty time-demanding job. I'm punching in usually around 6.30 in the morning, and I leave at 4.30 in the afternoon. Got a little bit of a commute home. By the time I get home and get myself together, get dinner, get the kids homework, get everybody situated, have a little family time. There's not a lot left in terms of time of day and just in general energy in the tank to do too much. So I'm resigned to work out in the mornings. I get up usually 3.30 or 4 o 'clock, go to the gym by work, you know, give it 45 minutes or an hour and head straight to work from there.

56:46I've been doing MAPS 15 for a while. It seems like that's probably what would have made the most sense. I've had some pretty good success with it. I don't I don't have any complaints really about the program. My issue is that by the time I get to the end of the week, you know, Thursday, Friday, and even sometimes Wednesday, As silly as it sounds, even with the short workouts, I can't really attack them with the same vigor that I do on the Monday and Tuesday workouts. And I don't know that I get as much out of them as I should be. And my question is, is there a way to maybe hybridize some programs to where I could do like a longer full body workout on a Saturday?

57:26just kind of have a little more time, a little more energy, just, you know, really send it on a Saturday and then do, you know, two or three shorter workouts during the week to get the other lifts in. And what something like that would look like, you know, would be best to stack up the maps 15 days and do four or five of those on a Saturday and just kind of take my time. Or would it better to, you know, maybe look into a different program and break the full days up into shorter days or, you know, some kind of mashup of the two? I just was looking for some guidance from you guys. Good question, Kevin.

58:00And that's one way to do it. I think a better way to do it, you know, when we write the programs, we write them with a typical calendar, you know, seven days in a week, four weeks in a month. But you don't have to follow it that way. So I think there's a better option for you, Kevin. I think what you do, what you should do is when you feel good, you do that MAPS 15 workout. And when you miss a couple of days, you miss, and then you get right back onto the next workout. So it doesn't have to be like that, you know, where it's, you know, six days in that week, you're following the MAPS 15 workout.

58:32Then you have your day off or whatever. It can literally be like workout, workout, day off, day off, another workout, day off, workout. So whenever you feel good, you just pick up right where you left off and it's totally fine. And in fact, I think that would be more appropriate for a guy like you when you're finding yourself. I mean, waking up at 3.30 and 4 is brutal. You got kids. You got to put them to bed. You probably want to spend some time with your wife. So it's not like you're going to bed at 8 p.m. because it's probably when the kids go down. You want to stay up and hang out with your wife a little bit.

59:03So, and I don't, I mean, you can do two or three workouts on a Saturday, but you also might want to do something with your family on a Saturday or maybe get more rest. So I think the best option is just do what I said. Like the mornings you wake up, you feel good, do a workout, and then take a couple days off and jump around. I like what he suggested. One of the suggestions that he did, I don't know if you picked up on it, because he feels so good on Monday, Tuesday, why not run Monday, Tuesday, MAPS 15, just a 15-minute version, and then Saturday and Sunday combine. Stack them. Yeah. You could do that.

59:33So four of the workouts get accomplished, which is still only a 50-minute workout or less. Sure. So Saturday and Sunday, you take two of the days and combine them on Saturday and Sunday, and then you only lift during the week, Monday, Tuesday, and you just do the 15 minutes before work based off of what you told me. Like you have good energy on the beginning of the week, so I would do it Monday, Tuesday, and then on Saturday and Sunday do the combined two of those. That way you're not bouncing in at different programs. You're still following the structure the way it is. I like that option too.

1:00:04Maybe try them both and see which one feels better for you. Yeah, the reason why I said what I said is because I know, I'm sure weekends for you sometimes are going to be, you know, family stuff. Uh, yeah. So, you know, structure is good, but if you're consistent and you're, you're, you're good with your consistency around not being super structured, then I think that's the better option. In other words, some people need that like Monday, Tuesday, Saturday, Sunday, a workout. Other people are like, no, I'm pretty good about working out when I feel good. Uh, and okay with, you know, taking a couple of days off, you know, some people turn that into like a week off when then they're like, Oh, I need more structure.

1:00:43But I think if you get up, you feel good, do your workout and taking a couple of days off is totally fine. And then pick up right where you left off. And, you know, you could have a weekend where you add more, you know, more of the workouts together. It's all the programming works either way with the way that mass 15 is laid out. Okay, cool. So it's more flexible maybe than what I was thinking. Totally. Absolutely. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So send it a little more on Saturdays and Sundays and then try Monday, Tuesday and relax a little bit more during the week. That's right. That's right. And then do you have 15 performance?

1:01:16Yeah, I got the bundle where it has performance and the regular. Oh, you're set, dude. You're totally set. Yeah. Okay. Well, good deal. That's all I needed. Like I said, I appreciate you guys. Definitely very noticeable life changes listening to you guys. So really, really appreciate that. And I appreciate the guidance here too. Keep it up, Kevin. You got it, man. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Take it easy. You know, I don't want to underestimate. So I used to underestimate this as a trainer. Because why? Because I was a kid, didn't have kids and a family. Like a lot of people have this kind of schedule where it's like, it is hard.

1:01:55A lot of people don't consider it. No, man. It is hard. It's a lot of stress. Your sleep isn't great. You got bills. You work. You got to wake up at three or four or five just to get. and so you want to make it work around that uh if your workout starts decreasing your quality of life because you're now you're too exhausted to be with your kids or yeah you wanted to compliment that's right that's right yeah i mean i like kind of what he what he was gonna do though i like the idea of the first two days of the week because then also he's only doing 15 minutes so he should be able to sleep in a little bit more than 330 yeah so you get a little bit more sleep just get the 15 minutes in on those two days and then the rest of the week focus on work your point is valid though i mean that's probably when he also does things with the family and go they might travel they might do that stuff but then if i know that's coming up that maybe that's how i change it for that week i might get my workouts in the neat part about like what you got i think that most people need to be able to look we always we do we always look at everything in this like seven day snapshot as if that's how our body works yeah like it's on some seven day cycle or whatever it's like no you know uh sometimes you get two days in a row working out and then all of a sudden you miss a And it's like, it's okay.

1:03:01You just follow the way the program's laid out, even if it turns into a nine-day week. That's right. It doesn't matter. Just keep following it in that order. And if you're more consistent than you're not, you're going to be winning for the most part. Our next caller is Alicia from Colorado. Hi, Alicia. Hello. Hi, guys. How you doing? Good. Man, I just want to say thank you guys. And I appreciate everything that you guys do. And I love you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How can we help you? So a little backstory. I started my journey back in 2024. I lost probably about 26 pounds with just eating healthy.

1:03:46This January is when I kind of started incorporating weightlifting five times a week. I hired a coach. she started me doing like a reverse diet because I was eating only at the time 1200 calories so we did that I reached maintenance probably in May and then in June we started cutting um so I guess my question is

1:04:19I've been struggling because I feel like I'm not making progress and I know I am even though the scale is not moving. so this whole time the scale has stayed at 155 but my body has dramatically changed from what it used to be so i know i'm making progress now that i'm cutting i don't know if i need to go back to maintenance to continue building more muscle and to get more of the sculpting that i truly want good question yeah a couple questions further though uh what did you get up to when you say you got up to maintenance before your cut so what were your calories at and then where are you currently at right now when you cut so when i got to maintenance they were 2 000 okay now that i'm cutting i'm at 5552 okay 50 1552 right yeah okay by the way you're i see her before and after yeah you're definitely making great yeah making great progress you're doing great yeah yeah so so let's talk about your workout first so you you started weight lifting or strength training five days a week five days a week at four in the morning me and my husband okay why five days a week that's that's a lot um because at the time i like i i struggled two years to get my eating under control so i was the type of person before i didn't want to work out i refused to work out I thought doing fab diets was the thing.

1:05:48It's not. So when I started in January, I knew I needed to go straight in. I needed to just do it. So I wanted to build a consistency. And yeah, now I love it. Who is your husband putting the workout together? Are you following his lead with it? Are you guys both kind of doing it? So I started first. We hired or I hired a trainer. um so they got us going until about june and then in june i decided to let go of my trainer and then now we're just doing it ourselves okay and are you guys enjoying doing it together uh we do but we i mean we go to the gym together but we do we're not working side by side he has his program i have mine because we both have different goals all right i don't want to dissuade you so that's more than you need but if you're enjoying it and you're going and you're modifying intensity and getting stronger i mean i love for going i love for going five just let me convince you to do it this way go the five follow maps anabolic three days a week walk for an hour on the treadmill the other two days and keep going to the gym five days a week because i totally respect and get that i'm like that where i do better with just every morning at this time i get up and i go here it doesn't matter like but you'd be far better off following a full body program like maps anabolic monday wednesday friday and tuesday thursdays you just walk on the treadmill for the hour so you still go to the gym same time same everything but the hour that you're spending in the gym for those two days is walking on a treadmill just a normal walk just a normal nice walk or elliptical or by you can do other things nothing crazy yep that's that and that'd be a more effective strength training routine and then i also want to bump your calories up a couple hundred calories so i want to take you back from your 15 or so to probably 17 or 1800 calories to start and then following maps anabolic and the walking like time and start to reverse diet you again and then you're going to start to build muscle again i agree i mean because i do like i felt a lot better at maintenance um the only reason why we decided putting was because i felt bulkier and heavy but i did notice like my glutes were getting bigger my thighs have got bigger um which is good but i just didn't like feeling heavy yeah Yeah.

1:08:06I mean, we can see your, we saw your before and afters and for you to kind of maintain the same weight, you says that you were probably in that sweet spot where you were losing, losing, losing body fat, but building muscle, losing body. And that's like a, it's a psychologically, it's a hard place to be. I'm sure you've heard us talk about all the time. It's a hard place when you're in the, what we call the Goldilocks zone, because you don't see the swings on the scale like people want, but technically you were in a really good place. And so I think getting you back up to that 1800 to 2000 calories and then following a program that we give you, I think you're going to see incredible results.

1:08:42Okay. So do you think I kind of hindered myself dropping dramatically? No, no, I don't, I don't think you hurt yourself or hindered anything. I think you you're fine. Uh, I don't think you did anything detrimental or overdid it for too long. And so we're, we're okay. It was maybe a good break on eating that many calories and that now you'll want to eat more again i think it's okay it's totally fine it's not a bad thing yeah have you seen our muscle mommy group by the way because that might be a great kind of love that it's it's group coaching so you'll get some guidance uh because i know you worked with a coach before um and it'll give you some guidance you're kind of not by yourself you meet with our trainers once once a week our our girls get in there and meet our female trainers are meeting with all these ladies and helping them through oh yeah i would love that All right, we'll send you a link to that.

1:09:31Yep. And then follow that advice. Do you have MAPS Anabolic? Can we send that to you? Yeah, I don't have it. I don't have any of your guys' programs. We'll send it to you. We're going to change that. We're going to change that. We got you. Okay, thanks. Yep. So we're going to send that over to you, and then when you get in the community, any questions that you have about the program, just pop them in there, and then the trainers will help you out. Okay, excellent. Awesome. Thank you. All right, thanks, guys. You got it. I love that she sent her before and after. Yeah. Oh, huge difference. Oh, yeah.

1:10:02Huge. Yeah. It's a - Great progress. So hard though, psychologically. Of course. To stay the same way, you know? Of course. But it sets you up. It sets you up for long-term success. The other way, where you're just fighting with the scale, not only is it a nightmare, but it sets you up for failure. Over 90 % of the time. Really good sign, though, that she saw it and felt it. That's right. So there's totally nothing wrong. And in fact, sometimes I would do this with clients to kind of show them, like, oh, here we go. we can cut some calories and maybe the scale goes down a couple pounds real quick but did you feel better did you look better like man and she knows it she felt better she felt more fed she felt like her muscle was fuller like definitely get back up to those calories and then i think when she follows maps anabolic i think she's a huge huge difference so look forward to seeing her in the community too her next caller is angelica from new york hi angelica hi how can we help you So I reached out because I am a little confused.

1:10:58So I'm just going to read it. It says, first of all, thank you for sharing the knowledge with all of us listeners. It's been incredibly helpful and motivated. I'm reaching out. I'm in a bit of a tough spot and could do some guidance. I'm 42, mom of two, wife, Dolby mom. And I've been a runner since 2021. It helped me overcome postpartum depression after having my daughter. Earlier this year, I fractured my foot, was shifting my focus into strength training. Since then, I've discovered bodybuilding and now want to work towards getting stage ready. My husband currently has MAPS and a body, an athletic program, and I've recently purchased the split since it geared more towards bodybuilding.

1:11:44I haven't started yet because I'm not sure which program is best fit for me. I'm currently training five days a week, three lower, and two upper body. I'm very disciplined with both lifting and running once I'm cleared to go back into running. I should also mention I'm a very compartmentalized person. I like upper body days and lower body days. Doing full body makes me anxious, which is probably why I haven't started the other programs. I normally like to put together what I can, dumbbells, barbells, etc. Nutrition is where I feel most lost. I've cut a lot from my diet due to my health issues in the past year.

1:12:26I know I need more structure. Eggs make me nauseous. Beef doesn't sit well with me. I've limited oil, eating out, and gluten. I'm not sure how much I should be eating or how to build a plan that supports both muscle growth and stage prep. I'm currently 121 pounds. I'm down from 175 pounds. And while I've seen progress in strength and muscle growth since May, I don't know how to take control of this next phase. I love some advice on which program to begin with, how to approach nutrition, specifically how much I should be eating to do my training, which division bikini figure, etc. might be the best starting point for me.

1:13:10I do work in health care, So most of my days is best balanced after training. And my evenings are filled with cooking and family routines. And my day goes by very quickly. I'm grateful for any guidance that you guys can share with me. Oh, man. Okay. You're not going to like what I'm going to tell you. I don't think you should compete. This is my opinion. Okay. Yeah. I think, one, for sure, figuring out the food intolerances, gut stuff, Anything you have going on, I think, is far more important to figure that out. Getting ready for a show. So one of the biggest mistakes that people make is deciding, I want to get ready for a show.

1:13:49And they look at their calendar and they're like, okay, it looks like January of next year is a good time for my schedule. And then they book the show and then they begin to diet for that show. The real work is done before you get ready for the prep for a show. meaning making sure you're all healthy gut-wise, ramping your metabolism up, building a solid muscular physique, because really the diet to get on stage is literally just revealing all that work. The physique is built in the off-season. The metabolism is built in the off-season. So making sure that gut health is on point, we are eating a good amount of calories, meaning someone your size, I'd want you north of 2 ,700 calories or more.

1:14:32and then we talk about okay now that we're there you feel healthy you feel strong our metabolism is ramped up we're eating 2700 plus calories now let's talk about where your body fat percentage is and when when a show should be based off of that much better strategy if you want to do a show that's how i'd get you ready for it any health issues that you have will get exacerbated by pre-contest prep. They'll just make them a lot worse. So what it would look like, if I were to give you some numbers, someone like you, your height, your size, you'd want to be able to maintain 20 % body fat, 18 % body fat at like 3 ,000 calories.

1:15:15So you're eating 3 ,000 calories a day and you're 18 % body fat and you feel good, you feel healthy. Then you might be in a position to go on a 14-week week pre-contest diet and you probably start with bikini because figure and all that is even more advanced uh but that would be the starting place uh and that would all that still is a difficult road okay now if you're not in that starting place if you're like 2200 calories you're maintaining 23 body fat like where are you gonna end up before going on a show you know 800 calories you'll crash your hormones destroy your metabolism and place yourself in a position where you're like Man, I regret even trying because I just feel terrible.

1:15:57Now it's going to take me six months to get healthy again. Or what happens to a lot of women is they regain and then some gain body weight. So it's not the best target or goal to aim for. But if it's what you want to do, then we'd want to end up where I said about 3 ,000 calories, 18 % body fat is what you're able to maintain at that many calories. And then we have some room. We have some runway with the diet. Any idea where we are calorie-wise and body fat percentage-wise right now? So don't yell. What did you say? You said don't yell. I've been tracking it, but don't yell. Okay. I won't yell, I promise.

1:16:42And what I've been tracking for the past, I would say, month and a half is I am ending up at 13, 16, 13, 18. 1 ,300. You say. 1 ,300. Okay, I'm not yelling. I'm just talking. I know I'm talking faster. 1 ,300 calories is where you're at right now? Yeah, because. Okay. If you try and do a show right now, I will call your husband, okay, when we hang up and make sure he doesn't allow you to do that. Absolutely. Well, no. Okay. No, no. So I don't want it to be like, I want this to be like a two-year. Okay. goal. Not anything for next year. Good goal. I like that. I like reasonable. Right. So, backstory is that I haven't had the best relationships with me because growing up, I was big and then my mom always informed me of that.

1:17:40And even after having my daughter, she's two months out of and she was like, guess what? You're still fat. So, I'm like, yeah, I just had a whole human. so I've been trying to erase the voice and you know hang on to God's word but it's been a difficult journey so getting into this bodybuilding I know that I'm not going to be stage ready this year or even next year because I have to build that relationship yeah Angelica the last thing you should do is get on stage and get judged by the way you look especially coming from that if you have that challenge challenge uh that you're just gonna it's like you're it's okay you have a recovering alcoholic let's say who's been sober for four months and they want to get a job as a bartender yeah terrible idea yeah you're placing yourself right in the in the clutches of the enemy and so what you're going to do is you're doing that with that kind of competition if you want to compete look if you have a competitive mindset and you like it like i want to do something i have a better option for you.

1:18:47Let me send you maps power lift, follow maps power lift, bump your calories up to 1600 calories to start with slowly work your way above 2000 calories on maps power lift and just try to get strong. Don't weigh yourself. Don't focus on the mirror. When you get dressed, just get dressed. Don't study your body. Just get strong at best power lift. By the way, the side effect of it, it's going to be, you're going to get leaner. You will get leaner doing that, but don't focus on how you look focus on getting stronger and maps power lift and reverse diet and and junk have you looked at the muscle mommy move it.com that we started i did um i i did take the test i think i was

1:19:30that's not that's not important it doesn't matter it doesn't matter the main thing is that did you have a we have a group there yeah did you get in the in the group in the private group with us no okay you got to get in there um this will help because we have doctors that are hormone specialists that are coming on talking about female hormones it's all women trying to build muscle they're all following different programs a lot of them have past food relationship issues that are being discussed i mean this is the conversations that we are having as a community with with all women and our two female trainers are running it they're meeting weekly with everybody.

1:20:04We're having doctors come in there. Just an incredibly valuable group for you to be a part of considering what you're talking about right now. And I love the idea of setting this as a long-term goal. I'm totally okay with that, but we definitely got to get through all the other stuff, get yourself in a healthy place before we even consider show prepping. So right now, let's get that all under control. And if you will allow us, allow us to help you through that process yeah that's that's awesome um only my husband actually is the one that has been pushing me into like lifting heavily and then i had a pr this past weekend with deadlift of 215 yeah that's awesome that's awesome angelica you're strong good job you're gonna like mass power lift yeah so i like lifting heavy i didn't know well so i'm like being a runner is like my best workouts are the speed and the hill workouts because I just like that challenge.

1:21:01I like to feel like I'm at the brink of like, I can't do it and then push past that. And with lifting, he always lies to me and adds more weight.

1:21:15And here I thought I was like, oh, I'm going to do 195. And when I pulled it and he was like, yeah, that was 215. I was like, oh. That's awesome. That's awesome. Follow Mass Power Lift, reverse diet. You'll be so much happier. We're going to send you Power Lift. I'll have Doug also send the link to you to get back. It's musclemommymovement.com. I'll send that link to you. And then get inside the group, and then we'll help you from that process from then on out. And then we'll talk later about show stuff, okay? Okay. All right, Angelica. All right. All right. I look forward to seeing you in there.

1:21:49Yes. All right. the last thing you should do oh yeah if you have any body dysmorphia or food relationship issues is a stage presentation sport yeah it's the last it will throw you right into dysfunction i even i even possible i even think your analogy isn't even is is still better so the the bartender who, you know, the guy who gets recovered alcoholic, right, and recovers for four months and goes to be a bartender, I think is an easier process than the person who has a poor relationship with food being forced to measure track and do food stuff and then be judged on their body. Actually, it would be more like you're drinking.

1:22:32You're right. You have to drink a small amount. Yes. You have to take a shot with the... Yes. It's more like a sober, like a recovering alcoholic, you know, becoming a wine tester. Yes. Yeah. That's a tried beer. It is crazy to think about. It is. It's even more difficult and worse than that. And I know the point of the analogy, but let me make it crazier. It's worse than that. It is, yeah. Of what you're doing to a person who has struck with any sort of body dysmorphia or food relationship issue. It's a body dysmorphia sport. Exactly. It is. So doing that at the competitive level is the last and worst thing you could do.

1:23:08And then again, I just want to reiterate what I said to her that I try and because I have this conversation so much with people that want to compete. The work for getting on stage is not done in the prep. It's done off season. It's done getting your metabolism ready, getting your relationship with food ready, getting your your foundation of your muscle ready. When you go and you cut for a show, all you're doing is trimming off the body fat and revealing all the hard work you've done, revealing the incredible strong metabolism that you built so that you're able to still eat amount of calories revealing all the muscle you built over years of strength training consistently like that's all the the prep is is that you're not doing anything other than that and so focusing on the off season building a healthy metabolism building a strong physique building a good relationship with food and diet that's so more important than the actual prep for the thing Our next caller is Aaron from Texas.

1:24:02Hey Aaron. What's going on Aaron? Hey, how are you guys? Good man. Good man. How can we help you? Uh, all right. Let me get straight into my question. So, uh, I'm 36 years old. I'm a husband and a father to two girls. Um, now about seven years or seven months ago, uh, I decided I need to start making a change. So I started out weighing about 218 pounds and I decided to cut out sodas, most fast, most processed foods and all the fast food and as well as a good decent amount of alcohol. Once I did that, I started tracking my calories, weighing all my food. That way I could get a better idea of what I was eating and consuming.

1:24:48in the first two months I ended up losing 20 pounds and I decided I needed to incorporate strength training so I ended up buying dumbbells and a bench and started lifting weights at the house I do three times a week full body I only eat basically whole foods limited processed foods and I'm currently now at 168 pounds. I did measurements for my body fat. I'm roughly around 11 % body fat somewhere in there. And I know now that I need to try to lean bulk and gain some muscle mass. But the problem is I'm eating a lot of food, a lot of whole foods, and I'm getting full fairly quick. so I'm just I guess wondering I guess my question is what what's the best way to try and put on more mass if I'm getting full constantly because I am like at the end of the night I'm eating Greek yogurts and protein shakes trying to get extra protein in which but that's always my number one priority is extra protein I just the whole foods is where I want to stay at I'm happy not eating anymore fast food or anything like that just i trying to figure out how to build that lean mass now i guess you're killing it dude yeah you're doing great bro you are you're doing really good and building muscle uh is a slow process yeah so yeah and you look great you look good i see your picture there yeah yeah building muscle is a slow process uh if you're eating whole foods you're hitting your protein targets you're eating till you're satisfied in fact you're telling us right now, like, I don't know if I could eat anymore.

1:26:32I don't think you need to focus on stuff in your face. Uh, at this point it's programming. Okay. The focus is workout programming and that'll stimulate your appetite. So focus on getting stronger. Uh, are you limited by equipment? Is it just dumbbells and an adjustable bench? Yeah. So that, that is, I feel like that might be part of it, but I, my job, I'm at work 14 hours out of the day. Um, so when I get home in the evenings, I try to squeeze in about an hour to an hour and a half workout and I have dumbbells only and a bench and the dumbbells even are kind of limited. I try to buy dumbbells when I need them or like when I need to move up in weight.

1:27:12You're at the point where you need more weight. I mean, here's the deal. You are incredibly healthy, incredibly fit. You got good muscle. You got a good diet. You don't need to really change anything, but if you want more, you're kind of at that level where the investment in maybe like a prx squat rack some extra weights like this will like to sound membership or gym membership whatever's easier uh that'll take you the next level that that will take you the next level and it will it will fuel the appetite issue like sal saying if we put you on maps anabolic right now just following that your your appetite will kick up and if you keep following these rules of eat protein and eat whole foods it'll come right with it bro you'll you'll you'll go right up with it you really will because you're in a really good place and but you're also at a place where you could you could keep doing what you do at home and you'll keep progressing slowly yeah you're healthy you're strong you're fit but the next level of like putting on more mass at a little bit faster rate is it's time to invest in either a more robust home gym or get a gym membership where you can you can really start to attack some of those start getting those those barbell lifts squats deadlift is those bench presses You'll gain MAPS anabolic following what you're doing with your diet now.

1:28:26You'll probably put on a good six, seven pounds of lean body mass on MAPS anabolic. Yep. Okay. Well, yeah, I guess that's what I was looking for, just maybe a little bit of validation that I am on the right track. And I think part of it is probably just getting slightly impatient, but I've been just trying to stick to the plan and just. Dude, you've done great. Bro, you went from 218 to 11 % body fat with abs. Yeah. And you look muscular. Yeah. And I've never been able to see my abs before. So saying that at 36 years old is pretty crazy. Dude, you're killing it. You're doing great, bro. You're doing a great job.

1:29:00But yeah, you start throwing some barbell work in there, follow MAPS anabolic. I'm pretty confident saying someone like you will probably put on about seven pounds of lean body mass. Well, at least that actually, I think, because he's kind of a novice. So I think that he'll pack on. You'll see how strong you get. Yeah, yeah. Aaron, I'd love to put you, I don't know if you're on Facebook at all, but if you are, I'd love to put you in our private forum um so we just keep yeah yeah i'll have doug set you up put you in there for free and then uh just stay in touch with us as you go through this process i'd love to hear if you end up getting a gym membership or or if you end up working at home i'll have doug send you maps anabolic with that too and then you follow that i think the rest will will follow keep doing what you're doing i think the rules that you've set for yourself the way you're eating all the things is perfect awesome man i really appreciate you guys i listen to you guys all the time and i will say i think listening to what you guys have to say has also made a huge impact and difference on how i've approached things so i really appreciate y 'all that's great man thank you thank y 'all it's doing great hey it's great you know this is by the way i want people to hear this where he got if you if you're watching this and you see his picture which most men would want to look like that yeah yeah you he got there with just dumbbells and some bands eating whole natural foods yep uh You know, eating till he was full, not overdoing it.

1:30:21Like, that's where you can get. That should encourage a lot of people. And most people are happy with that. Now, next level, he's limited by his equipment, which is a great problem, by the way. You start getting limited. Get some of that, yeah. You get limited by your equipment. Now we're talking. He can literally just keep doing what he's doing, though. He'll still progress slowly. And he will continue to look good. I love it, too. Maintain 11 % body fat. And he's not weighing and measuring and tracking food. You're not crushing the gym, our gym workouts. you know with all kinds like it's literally that simple if you follow those steps and focus on those things and he don't even need to change but if he wants more that this is where the dead lifting squatting overhead pressing this is where this starts to really make a difference look if you like the show come find us on instagram we'll see you at mind pump media thank you for listening to mind pump if your goal is to build and shape your body dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance check out our discounted rgb Super Bundle at mindpumpmedia.com.

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