2728: Strange Training Hacks for Faster Gains

14 Nov 2025 · 1 h 14 min

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Mind Pump Episode 2728: Strange Training Hacks for Faster Gains

Episode Overview In this episode of the Mind Pump podcast, hosts Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, and Justin Andrews answer listener questions related to fitness, health, and more. They uncover unconventional workout hacks, discuss the implications of new military technology, and share insights on various scientific studies.

Key Segments

  1. Mind Pump Fit Tip: Unconventional Workout Hacks (2:22)
  2. Discussion of unusual training methods that can yield better results.
  3. Emphasis on the importance of progressive overload and the cyclical nature of increasing and decreasing workout volume.
  1. Military Technology (24:34)
  2. Introduction to new military tech that raises ethical and security concerns.
  3. Discussion of AI's potential implications in military settings.
  1. AI and Its Impact (29:50)
  2. Examination of AI's role in modern life, including potential dangers and benefits.
  3. Reflection on societal dependence on AI.
  1. Comet or Extraterrestrial? (32:12)
  2. Speculation on a celestial object behaving in ways not typical of comets, suggesting possible artificial origin.
  1. Studies on Binaural Beats (37:15)
  2. Insights into research showing how binaural beats can enhance focus and attention.
  1. Overprescription of Medications for Kids (39:14)
  2. Discussion on the prevalence of overprescribing stimulants to children and its implications.
  1. Takeaways from Scott Donnel's Course (45:38)
  2. Review of practical lessons learned from a family-oriented course emphasizing values and personal development.
  1. Joovv's Black Friday Deals (49:14)
  2. Promotion of special offers for red light therapy products.
  1. Guilty Pleasures (54:03)
  2. Hosts share light-hearted personal anecdotes and interests.

Listener Questions

  1. Feeling Rear Delts (58:41)
  2. Tips for connecting with the rear deltoids during exercises.
  3. Importance of form and technique over lifting heavy weights.
  1. Getting Stronger with Squats (1:00:37)
  2. Addressing mental barriers and programming strategies to improve squat performance.
  3. Recommendations for focusing on singles, doubles, or triples to improve strength.
  1. Ergonomics for Dental Hygienists (1:04:15)
  2. Suggestions for preventive measures to protect against repetitive strain injuries.
  1. Career Insights (1:05:15)
  2. Personal reflections from the hosts on what their careers have taught them about themselves.

Key Takeaways

  • Progressive Overload: Essential for muscle growth, but cyclical volume adjustments can provide surprising results.
  • Mental Barriers: Fear can hinder performance; practicing safe techniques for heavy lifts can help overcome these fears.
  • Ergonomics: Taking regular breaks for mobility exercises can greatly reduce the risk of strain in physically demanding jobs.

Related Links and Products

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  • Joovv: Red light therapy systems with special Black Friday offers.
  • MAPS Fitness Products: Various training programs available at discounted rates.

Hosts and Social Media

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  • [Adam Schafer](https://instagram.com/mindpumpadam)
  • [Justin Andrews](https://instagram.com/mindpumpjustin)

Conclusion This episode covers a wide range of topics reflecting the hosts' extensive knowledge in the fitness and health industry. With a mix of humor and insightful discussions, they provide listeners with actionable tips and thought-provoking ideas related to both physical training and broader societal themes.

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2:00Go check it out. Take advantage. Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com. Use the code BLACKFRIDAY for the sale and the entries into the contest. All right, real quick. If you love us like we love you, why not show up by rocking one of our shirts, hats, mugs, or training gear over at mindpumpstore.com? I'm talking right now. Hit pause. Head on over to mindpumpstore.com. That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. All right, we're doing something a little different today. You know workout programming, things like reps, sets, exercises. But here's what we're going to do. We're going to give you some of our favorite workout programming hacks, ways you can change your workout that we don't normally talk about that can elicit results, get your body to change, build muscle, burn body fat.

2:42You're going to hear from us. This is our favorite. So let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I have no science to support mine. Yeah. Nice. We can try to explain some of these, but I'll start. Science bros will love this. I'll start with one of mine. And this isn't, you know, I've experimented with this in the past. So I'll start off by kind of selling it a little bit, right? So, you know, progressive overload, this is like a foundational principle in strength training. What this refers to is essentially get your body to be able to do more over time is what gets the body to change. And progressive overload can look like adding weight to the bar.

3:16It could look like doing more reps. it could look like increasing your volume, meaning like more sets, more reps, more weight. One of each of those or all of them. Sure. Now the problem with this is it doesn't work forever. You can't - It's not linear. Forever increase your progressively overload because if that were the case, by this point I'd be doing a thousand sets per body part. I've been doing this for so long. So at some point backing down starts to actually give results. This is where things get a little crazy. This is what I love about strength training. It's not an exact science. In many cases, especially when someone's advanced, taking them down in volume gets their body suddenly to respond.

3:54So what I've done with programming in the past is I've taken a workout program, I've kept everything the same, and every week I add a set to every body part until I get to about 15 to 20 sets per body part. And then what I do is I start over again. And I go all the way back down to where I started, which typically is around nine sets, and then work my way up. So it would look like nine sets, 10 sets, 11 sweat. And I go all the way up to, let's say, 15 to 20 till I feel like, oh, I'm doing too much. Then I go all right back down to the beginning. And each time I've done something like this, I see some changes in my body.

4:30I see strength increases. It's different. Novelties in there, kind of set in there. So that's just one way. And I don't have a name for it. I don't know what you would call it, pyramiding the volume up and down. But it's just something I would experiment with. I'm sure somebody's coined it somewhere. Maybe. Or I invented it right now. One of mine that I picked was more movement-related. The other day we were talking about just like these king of exercises and exercises that are so valuable. What came up in the conversation was, I think I brought it up, I think that being able to extend your arms above your head, fully extend, is one of the first things to go for so many people, including myself.

5:11I remember part of why I never did standing overhead press was because it always bothered my low back. And I was so I just like a typical knucklehead. I just eliminated. Oh, I wouldn't do it. I'll just do seated all the time versus addressing what was going on. And I remember first doing the Z press. And because it forces you into this position to kind of pull your head and stabilize. and it takes the lower body out of it, it kind of reconnected me. And I love - Especially the extension. Yes. As long as you'll fall back. Yes. And I love some of my favorite, like when you brought this up of like some things for us, like some of my favorite things that come to mind are like trainer hacks that like I figured out along the way that not only made it a huge impact, maybe on my own journey, but also it was like massive for my clients.

6:07and so the z press became this movement and i wish i had found it earlier in my training career because if i could go back and do it all over again that would have been a staple exercise that i probably taught every single one of my clients since so many people are limited by their ability to get full extension above their head and i also think that how much that uh alleviates a lot of chronic upper back pain and neck pain that people have and issues by the way for people who are into bodybuilding that z press gives me the craziest shoulder pump yes the craziest because of what you said like if if you if you're not perfectly upright at the top and bringing your head through the window and getting this you're gonna fall on your back on your back so you get this crazy squeeze in this range of motion i do yeah i think it has something to do with that full extension there's a bit of an isometric kind of holding contraction at the top just so different than what you would do.

6:59And so, yes, I agree. It was some of the best pumps and it really trained that movement pattern for me and my clients. And I, again, I wish I had found that earlier on in my career because of how valuable that, and then we have that in some of our programs, but if you don't do that, I just, yeah, experiment with that and add that into your routine. Yeah. I think for things that we normally wouldn't program, if we're going to go in that direction like i go through bouts and periods of of really challenging my instability and creating more um chaos training i guess they call it and so um that being like weight that shifts and moves um and so for me a lot of times you use rubber bands in this regard like if the most simple example i could come up with is probably like um let's say like a suitcase carry now i can tie like a rubber band onto a kettlebell for instance i'm walking and it's it's actually bouncing and it's moving but i have to stabilize that and be able to walk with like way less discipline way less predictable lots of different variables i'm adding and you can kind of apply that same concept too to like if i do a bottoms up kettlebell press there's just a lot more vectors of force that's like you have to account for what's that one bar justin that bam the bamboo bar the earthquake bar Yeah.

8:22Do you guys remember when we were? I love doing that. I want to say we were at an Onnit. I think we went to Onnit, and there's a picture of it out in the studio. Sometimes it'll come up. We were doing the overhead press, but the barbell had bands attaching to kettlebells hanging down. Remember how that felt? Well, it kind of reminds me of the Z-Press, that same kind of like. Requires you to. Yeah, yeah, that required that stability that you had to get that full extension. More focus and intention, right? You got to slow everything down and you really have to account for a lot of that movement.

8:51And I think that it's interesting because it's not like something people don't seek that out for muscle building benefits. But again, this fills a lot of gaps where there's bits of instability, there's shifting weight in like a barbell press. And so it's like it's a strength you don't realize like really adds into the overall. Well, I would actually, and I love to make this case, an argument for the bodybuilding community because I think one of the things I was blessed with was that I had a lot of trainer friends like Justin and people that did a lot of this stuff. And I did a lot of that. I experimented with a lot of that stuff.

9:30And I found a lot of benefit to building and sculpting. Because to your point, it fills all these gaps. You increase that stability and strength in that shoulder girdle and then go see what kind of weight that you compress over your head. And so you may not think of it as a direct bodybuilding exercise. Maybe it's when you're addressing a weak link. That's right. And I think that's one of the areas. I remember I was lucky to train in a gym during that time of a lot of competitors. And I trained really unconventional compared to the guys. I still train bodybuilder-esque. But there was stuff like that that I always included that you just didn't see.

10:09you know i even had like i ran i did snatches i did stuff i did exercises that your typical bodybuilder yeah just ignored and thought oh those those are those are power lifter movements or those are you know you know functional guys do that stuff and it's like man when you're especially when you're training as much as you are to be a bodybuilder you're in the gym a lot you're doing a lot of exercises it's to me it's silly to not include a lot of these movements that fill those gaps and in and i think it only makes all the other lifts that much better i agree all right Here's one that I think people can have a lot of fun with.

10:40And it was inspired by the story of, I think his name was Milo. This is like one of the first. This is one of the first. Progressive Overload. Oh, the carry the bull. Yeah. So this is one of the first examples, historical examples of when people understood progressive overload. Wait, wait. It's historical? It's real? It's not real. It's like a legend. Or like a myth. Okay, yeah, yeah. But it's old. It's really old. I don't know how old that story is. Maybe you can look it up, Doug. but it's the first example of like that people understood progressive overload. I love this story. And the story goes that Milo would go and lift a calf up in the air and would do this every day.

11:19And of course the calf grows into a bowl. Therefore Milo every day is lifting a little bit more weight and getting stronger and stronger. So the idea around this, and this is, this could be a lot of fun. You can experiment with this. First off, you want to have a good program, one that doesn't overtrain you. So the volume is low to moderate compound lifts. You need to do that with this type of lifting. Great. I would say MAPS 15 or MAPS anabolic would be to do this with. Yes, so MAPS 15 would be great for something like this. And then here's what you do. And you can buy these now. And I remember when I first thought of this, I couldn't find them.

11:48But you can buy them. I have this one too, yeah. You can buy micro weights. Yep. And they're magnets. Magnets. And they go up in increments of as little as a quarter of a pound. Oh, a quarter pound. I thought they were small, like two. No, no, no, no. They could go as little as a quarter of a - Fractional. They're fractional weights. And so what you do is you do your normal workout. Then the next week, you bump your calories by 50. This is all you do. 50 more calories a day if you want to have fun with it. And then you go up a quarter pound on every lift. And you do this until it stops working.

12:16And what you'll find is at first it's going to feel the same. But in four weeks, it's a pound heavier on every lift. The next four weeks, another pound. And if you keep doing this, it gets really fun. Now, you can go up more than fractional. I think fractional is more fun. It stretches it out. Yeah. And you don't have to necessarily. Probably better for you to do it that way. You don't have to necessarily bump your calories. but at some point you probably are going to want to. And I mean, you do this for a year and your lifts are all heavier. And it feels like you're not lifting heavier because it's so - I've always wanted to do that.

12:47It's one of those things that I haven't actually bought. Like I was in a gym one time where they had fractional weights and was able to add little magnets. Yeah. And you just, you don't even realize it. No. It's a trip. You just put the mat. When did that story, when was it first? Yeah, ancient Greece during the sixth century BCE. Yeah, really cool. Wow. Really, really cool stuff. So I have a controversial maybe bodybuilding tip then, and I know for sure you guys have seen me talk about this. There's a YouTube video of me doing this. If you catch me training shoulders, you will almost always see this make its way into my routine, and that is the bent-over one-arm reverse cable fly.

13:28Yeah, you love this exercise. And again. And now you're pulling it across. Yeah, it's just different. There's not a lot of people train it that way. um well you load the stretch of the rear delt where else would you load exactly and so i to this day attribute a big part of my shoulder development which would when i was competing was a strength of mine to that exercise nothing uh nothing pumps my rear delts like that uh i don't feel as there's no other exercise i feel as connected the the complete range of motion i feel completely connect to the rear delt um i love that movement and if you want and i also think that rear delts are are um overlooked in shoulder development i think a lot of people don't realize it's the most aesthetic part of the delt it just don't even realize and and we do and we do so much in front of us that your interior delts get a lot of attention yeah you know if you just bench press and you do movements everybody does front raises things like the anterior delts get a good amount of tension and it's not to say that that part is not a big part of shoulder it's just they already get a lot of attention not a lot of people train the rear delts and train them properly and do them frequently and so i think it's already an overlooked underrated part of the body to train and then i think that exercise is in my opinion the king of rear delt exercises here's probably here's one of the reasons why i said it earlier adam but now we have all these studies to support this loading a muscle in a stretch position uh it really produces hypertrophy or muscle growth.

14:59And so what you're doing when you're bent over with the cable and the cable is across your body, so your arm has to come across your body, it's loaded right out the gates in that stretch. And that's probably why. And it's a deep stretch because I cross all the way over my body until I'm as far as I can go over there and I feel that stretch. And then you take it all. And it's a full range too. You know, I got to try it. I have full disclosure. I've only done it once. I need to start implementing. Oh my God, it's psychics. My delts develops pretty well. So it's not like I, you know, but I'm going to try it because I haven't, yeah.

15:24It's a staple movement for me, and I remember when I first started doing it. And, of course, I understand the science of novelty, and that probably played a role in that, but I still think it's one of the king of exercises. And I think it's a bit controversial. No one would list that as the king of shoulder exercises. And I'm not saying I would replace that over a traditional shoulder press or a movement like that, but it's got to be in that. Yeah, I definitely, I mean, this one's controversial just in that, conventional setting. Like people won't do rounded back lifting. And I, I love it mainly because it's so functional and it's like to, to be able to, again, I was exposed to it because I was in a gym that had Atlas stones and had sandbags and had a lot of really heavy weights that were hard to organize, you know, your body around without like really hugging and pulling and squeezing uh while you're lifting and driving up um so to be able to do that it's it's so raw it's like a raw strength move that i feel like um because we're so again anteriorly driven like everything we're trying to correct that all the time that like we're we're we steer clear of this uh position which let's strengthen this position as well yeah i love that tip yes and in fact again you know back to that time of training for me uh we were hanging out and there's a video if you go far enough back in my instagram with the big the big heavy bag picking it from the ground putting it up i don't remember it's one of the big ones it's one of the big sandbag i don't even know if i could pick it up 250 right now and it was how many times could i get it in a certain time a bunch of them and they stayed exactly we went through like a minute because you know why Because you want to move them.

17:18Because when we first got it, that was part of it. I was on that kick of including that into my routine. And you would never think to do that as a bodybuilder guy. I love that. To be clear, rounded upper back, not lower back. Thank you, yes. So it's when you're hugging something. By the way, you could do this with Zurcher lifts. So Zurcher deadlifts, Zurcher squats, they tend to protract the shoulder girdle. That's what Justin means. And listen, from a funk, look, as a grad, when I was in judo, not shrimp lifting. judo, when I was doing wrestling, like when you're grabbing someone this is how you pick them up you're not picking them up with the shoulders exactly you're doing that your ass is gonna get through that's why that's such an awesome thing because it's it is so more realistic how you would grab something really heavy or a person and you know i'm saying and throw someone around i'll sell it i'll sell it right here we talked about hypertrophy in the stretch position you're stretching the mid-back and adding tension yes it is rhomboids mid-traps i've done that a couple times and you get sore from doing it because He gets strong as hell, though.

18:13It's so different. All right, I got another one. This one is, it was controversial. We now have studies that show that this is actually superior. And we don't have a ton of studies, but I would guess that this is a better way to train. If you're somebody that likes athletic performance, in other words, you like all of it, strength, stamina, and endurance, and mobility, what your routine probably looks like is a mix throughout the week. So it probably looks like I strength train on Mondays. Tuesdays, I go running. Wednesdays, I do something else outside. Then Thursdays, I do lifting again. Or your routine looks like this.

18:47Strength training and stamina are in the same workout. This is how a lot of people train. Why? Because they want to be well-rounded. And they get it. There's nothing necessarily wrong with this, especially if it's well-programmed. This is just the standard. But you're probably better off going a week of pure strength training, a week of pure endurance training, every other week you alternate. In other words, one week is only strength training. And then the next week is only endurance training. And what the data seems to show, and in my experience training clients who were willing to do this, a lot of people aren't willing to do this because they like to mix it up.

19:19You actually get better at both doing it this way. And it's so odd and so different because if you're someone who likes to be well-rounded, it feels very strange to just focus on one for a full week. And then the next week, ignore that and then train just endurance. but this this probably produces better results long term it leans a little bit more on the specificity i mean obviously you you change it up um but to allow the body to actually like learn uh these that that type of adaptation and like you know hone in on it then shift it like you just have a better chance of really like absorbing that type of i wish i actually would have experienced all the things we're talking about right now i think that's one of the ones that I really haven't ever really experimented.

20:03I could see you doing that. That's totally something I could see you have fun with. Yeah, yeah. Especially if I was playing sports and doing things like that, it would make a lot of sense to train that way. It'd be really neat to see. Yeah, the last study I saw showed that the people that train like that versus people who mix it all up, at the end of the study, the people who did one week just strength, one week just endurance, performed better in both strength and endurance at the end of the study. Yeah. So they actually got more of both. That's awesome. As a result because, and I believe it.

20:31I believe it. I would have guessed. I love that tip. Isn't that a great one? Yeah, it is a great one. I got one more. I just realized that all of them are shoulder related. Yeah. I didn't do that intentionally. Those are the ones that came to mind. The other one that popped to mind, and I think I should probably credit Justin here too. I'm trying to remember the first time doing this. But a circus press from the floor up is just a - So a clean impress? Yeah, a clean and press circus press, right? And I don't know if that's the correct term because I know a circus press is just a one-arm press, but it's with the full clean.

21:07It is from the floor. Yeah, is it from the floor? Right. The circus press is considered from the floor, right? So it's like a clean and press, but we call it a circus press. I just, you can load it. I think you got this. It's fun. You have this explosive component to it. You have a grinding component to it. You have an incredible lateral stability component to it. um core crazy core strength required in it just a great great movement and again incorporates the lower body with the upper body is i have loved that movement was something i didn't do early on in my career later um i think i would have taught it a lot more um had i realized what great benefits i got from it and you don't see a lot of it i mean how when's the last time you walked in a gym or saw someone doing a circus press and i again also saw great results i thought my shoulders just strong men yeah oh man i felt like they blew up from that all right i got one more and this one is a lot of fun if you want to get really strong at a particular lift and so one caveat here is you have to organize your volume around this uh so don't just add what i'm about to say to your normal workout because you'll probably overdo it so make sure you adjust the volume of the rest of the workouts but let's say you just like i want to get my squat to go up a lot i want to see how i want to get i want to really boost my squat or my deadlift or my bench from my overhead press.

22:25This is what you do. You take a weight that you could do 10 reps with that you probably could do closer to 14 reps with. So the intensity is okay. It's good, but it ain't super hard. So it's like four or five reps in reserve. Two or three days a week, you just do 10 with it and you never increase the weight. You just, every time you do it, you pick the same weight, you do 10 reps and you do this for 30 days or for a full month. At the end of that, then see how much you can lift and you would be surprised. And here's what it'll feel like. It'll feel easy because it's already kind of easy. If I can do four more reps, it's not that hard.

22:56Lifting method, yeah. And then by the last week, it's going to kind of feel really easy. And then watch how much weight you add to the bar. And it typically results in a 10 to 20-pound increase. This is a Soviet training program. The key to this is to – because I would even argue going lighter before being closer to that edge. Yeah. Meaning like – It's probably something you could do 15 with, I would say. Right, right. So my point of what I'm bringing up, where people will screw that one up is - Or go too heavy. Or go too heavy. And when you're trained with that much frequency, you do not need a lot of load at all whatsoever.

23:33And really, a lot, I think, of the benefit is coming from the central nervous system. Oh, it's neural adaptation. Yeah. You are just, I mean, that is becoming like walking for you. It's mapping it. Yeah. 30 days of moving like that consistently. And then you go back and like, let's see. Now let's try and really load this thing after a good rest, right? and then go back and that's a great one that's a really cool but a lot of people screw that up because they they it's so different they pick a they pick a weight that they one like especially guys because like to for me to put because it probably proper for me would probably be putting like 35 wheels on there something like and you know i'm saying it's like i don't want to do that we always want to add yes yes oh it's going well let's add yes and so dudes normally screw it up because that's the squad everyday challenge that happened that like so there was all that controversy around it's like well there's controversy around it because people don't do it the people that did it right got great yeah you do it correctly it's in it's incredible but again the lean on the more moderate to low intensity then pushing like oh i think i could do more that's real screw that up dude i just read an article i'm gonna pull it up on this new military drone that uh oh dude that you that we know about which tells you that there's something crazier have you seen the military new uh helmets no that they came out with oh so the guy that uh i think was responsible for like meta quest and and did a lot of engineering for that created like the military helmet version of that so it's basically like it's completely covered and um he's able to actually see and map people like their heat signature everything as they're behind buildings.

25:12Like, you know, like it doesn't even matter if there's environment there. Like they'll be able to target into anybody just by having these on. Wow. So check this out. This is what's crazy. So this is called, it's called X-BAT and this is a AI powered fighter jet with no pilot. So shield AI just unveiled the X-BAT next gen fighter that flies itself, takes off like a helicopter, doesn't need a runway. It's powered by Hivemind, which is a custom AI pilot. it can fly 2 ,000 miles, reach 50 ,000 feet and pack missiles, it's built for combat can launch from a ship in the middle of nowhere costs$27 million compared to the $100 million plus of the F-35 and it's very fast, very versatile and again it has no morals and it's willing to kill so here's what's crazy they're going to sell drone warfare as being more moral moral and humanitarian yeah like nobody's dying or whatever you also don't have a person there yeah who not to say that people don't do crazy you know horrible things or yeah of course but now you got ai and it's like and who's gonna know if it goes out and just how many instances have there been where people have not pushed the button like if you go back in history there's a lot do you know there's one incident where that happened where there was one i think he was a russian yeah Yeah, he was a sub captain in a submarine, and he got all the alerts that a nuclear war started.

26:39And there were false alarms, too. It was a false alarm. All he had to do was retaliate, which is what he was ordered to do. Everybody was pressing him to do it. Like, that's what you're supposed to do. Really? And had he retaliated, it would have started a thermonuclear war. Oh, yeah. Maybe Doug can look it up. I swear there's a couple of those stories, and you're just like, oh, my God. Again, the human element of just staying opposed to calm. Yeah, it doesn't feel right. because like yeah if you get a directive and you're just like an ai bot or whatever like you're gonna run it all the way through like what's stopping that yeah interesting i didn't know that story yeah that's why yeah and if if the ai's imperative is to win yeah uh and then it's going to do a risk assessment and the risk assessment is going to look like well it's going to kill this many people versus how many people they could potentially kill so it's less people therefore it's okay let's go for or killing all these innocent people will prevent a further war like i'm just creating scenarios here let's pet off and read that doug yeah so there's two guys stanislav petrov and vasily arkhipov both who are credited with preventing potential nuclear war by disobeying orders in separate incidents um want more details so they ignored a false alarm from his command early warning system.

28:01And the other guy was a submarine officer refused to authorize the launch of a nuclear torpedo during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yeah. Wow. Oh, my God. This close. Yeah. This close to - It's nuts. Yeah, just everybody getting annihilated. Do you guys remember that movie? Was it War Games? Was that the one? The kid where he went and had the co - You know what's funny? It's so funny. This is what's so crazy about this AI development. So this movie, we've known, this is not like we're coming up with these potential dangers. Like I think it's easy to understand the danger of something like this. There was a movie called war games.

28:34I think it was 1980 something. And in it, they had designed a, a super intelligent computer and the super intelligent computer, I believe was there. It was going to, it was going to start a nuclear war or they had to stop it. It was about to start a nuclear war because it was doing its own calculations, but it learned it had the ability to learn. Yeah. and so i forgot the main what's the main actor in it it's the dude from ferris bueller yeah matthew broderick matthew broderick is in there and he's like wait a minute i know how to stop it because they couldn't figure out how to stop it it's going to create it's going to start nuclear we're all going to die and so matthew broderick said hey to the computer he said let's play why don't you play a game of tic-tac-toe against yourself in tic-tac-toe when you got good two good players nobody ever wins yeah and so keep playing keep playing keep playing and at the end of it it says nobody wins and then it figures out nobody wins nuclear war and it stops the whole you know but i can't tell you remember that i know i know i've watched that a bunch of times so good i could grab all that movie so good but i mean that's i knew it involved a kid in a game and i remember that he like he but he inputted that right that's what he did yeah that's how he got it to figure out right he input like his atari game or something yeah he's like hey play play you know tic-tac-toe and then it figured out nobody wins this is pointless and then it's like oh nuclear war not good either we should probably stop it and that's how he taught it to not do the thing but what's crazy about this i was having a conversation with my cousins about ai and i said i made a comment that was controversial i said it has the spirit it's got it's got a demonic spirit behind it of course there was like oh you believe in what i said no no i said here's what i mean by that the spirit behind what i mean by the spirit is the energy behind the development of ai is very similar to develop the spirit that was behind the the acceleration of nuclear war or warheads yeah it's like we know this is bad we know this is but we have terrible we have to do it or else they're going to do it.

30:21If we don't do it, they're going to do it. And so that's the spirit driving military development of AI. It's everybody knows it's a bad idea. Yeah, but don't, I mean, I overheard a really good discussion about this the other day and it's like, and it does bring up like, well, what would you do? Because would you let China go build all that? And then we're at the mercy of them of like, because that economically would just cripple us too. That's what I mean. It's like, what do we do? It's like you, because it's not, of course, what it's going to do for wars was the default go to that. And then the average person's like, oh we should just not do it yeah well then China Russia gonna go do it and then when they when that when that technology evolves over there we now have to lease that technology from them to evolve our economy over here or buy everything from them because they're so far ahead of us which then cripples our economy behind it so it's like it's a damned if you do then if you don't um what is the right answer you know there isn't one I mean I think the right unless everybody decides to stop I think you have to have faith in humanity.

31:18You have to have faith. I mean, I know it sounds laughable, but that you have to. You have to believe that the guy won't hit the button. You have to believe that you're going to. It's not a guy. Yeah, this is the new territory we're getting, and I think we're taking the human out of it. That's what's scary to me. because then it's like what what that's less well there's still a human prompting it there's still a human programming it as of now you know it's going to program itself uh you know very soon uh you know what does they say like in five years or so so that's i mean it's it's accelerating so i i don't know again this is what everybody's been trying to sound the alarm for it forever uh but nobody listens because it's like it's again the hustle and the the the rate of advancement to to innovate is, it just consumes.

32:12And meanwhile, we have that, what's that comment? Is it called three eye? Bro, do you know what you want? No, I didn't even know you guys just brought this up. I think you brought, I think you brought it up on the episode one time that we, we have this thing. So my new, my new, what was the other one? The first one that came, I mean, do we really, can we really see it? You brought the point, I mean, we've got a telescope, but I'm like, can you really go down to came on? Yeah. Again, there's been people that have like a bunch of different like accounts, YouTube, you know, like social media, they'll get their own telescopes and kind of show their footage.

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32:44And, and a lot of it too, like, I think even with the shutdown, the government shutdown, there hasn't been a lot of NASA footage of it because, you know, NASA being part of the government, but they've been getting footage from other different countries. And so that's been, what's been shared. Yeah. What are you getting over there, Doug? So it's this huge, it's, it's this, go ahead, Doug. No, go ahead. Let me finish this. Yeah. So it's, it's this huge thing going through space. It's the size of Manhattan. It's massive. Okay. And it's doing things that a comet wouldn't normally do. Like there's early and excessive outgassing.

33:15There's unusually high levels of CO2 and nickel. There's a rapid, unexpected brightening and blue coloring. Yeah. There's non-gravitational acceleration. So they're like, this could be intelligent. In other words, this might be created by an intelligent species. Yeah. Well, like Michio Kaku, he was like that physicist, right? that he talks about all this stuff and was saying that one thing to look for is if it passes around the sun, if it actually increases speed. And it did. It accelerated after passing the sun. And it shouldn't be able to do that. No. No. It should slow down. Unless it's powered by something.

33:58And the trajectory of it was in such that it came through and was able to observe and pass through each one of our planets perfectly in this line that like had to be it had to be deliberate because like randomly it's just that's hard to believe yeah yeah it would have crashed i mean i've just sounds like like carbon dating you know i'm saying like we're measuring something millions of miles away with a telescope right here we're like oh yeah that's going about mach 7 and it just went to mach 8 i and it's emitting blue fumes right now through my telescope. I can measure that, right? And my little calculator right here.

34:38Sounds a lot like our carbon dating to me. Big old space turrets floating around there. It's nothing special. Oh, man. I don't know, dude. We can't win with you, dude. I'm going to stay skeptical, though. It's fine. We need that. I think it was Rick and Morty. You guys know that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny, bro. And there was one where the aliens came to Earth, but they were dinosaurs. and they were like, yeah, we were here millions of years ago, but we left, you know, the earth exploded and then we came back and like this super like advanced species. Oh, that's hilarious. What if it's dinosaurs?

35:11What a funny concept. If a T-Rex comes out, it's okay. We were here a long time ago. Trying to get rid of me. It's actually our planet. What are you reading over there, Doug? You got any good information for us? I mean, most scientists believe it's a natural comet. Okay. So it's not necessarily agreed upon that it's some type of alien. Four to five dentists. Of course. that's what they're gonna lean on who what scientist wants to claim it's aliens that would kill their career yeah come on yeah don't you love it when you're like toothbrush commercials four out of five dentists i didn't agree what a jerk but they do admit it has anomalies to it too so that's the thing it's like they haven't seen a lot of these characteristics now we're at least we're not at least the ones i always worry about is when they're they see this stuff and it's like it's on course to run into us.

35:58Yeah, that's not happening, right? So it's just cruising by? Is he going to cruise by us? It's far away. Yeah. It's really far away. Everything's really far away. I think it passed us. I mean, how many miles do you think they're off when they estimate this stuff? Come on. You're asking me and Justin? Yeah, come on, dude. 17 % margin of error. I don't just throw out some numbers. I mean, give me, Doug, you should be able to Google that. What's the percentage of error when measuring speeds and distances out in space. It's got to be. You can't tell me we have something that's super. I think they could get pretty accurate based off of light infraction.

36:33Yeah, but you would say that about carbon dating, too, before, wouldn't you? Light infraction. I'm just making things up. Yeah. You would say that about carbon dating, too, though, wouldn't you? No. Oh, you wouldn't have said that before? No. Before, yeah. Yeah. Before. I did a little more digging. After I said some shit, you guys all laughed at me. They were like, what does that say, Doug? Yeah, so the margin of error for measuring speeds and distances in space varies greatly depending on the methods used and the distance of the object. Greatly. You know that's bad when they fucking label us greatly.

37:02It's like pretty much inaccurate completely is actually another way of saying that. It's within 100 million miles. Yeah. It's like 1 % accurate. It's like changes in light. That's all I have to work with. All right. Since we're on the topic of science, here's some real science. Here's some real science. you guys. Empirical. I looked up studies on, uh, Brent, you know that you can find studies on brain FM itself. They actually have already some, some studies. Yeah. So I found some on brain. So people don't know what this is. This is music that's engineered to induce different states of mind. And they measure this through brainwaves.

37:38Okay. So you, you, if they, if they, if they look at your brainwave activity, they can predict if you're focused, if you're asleep, if you're meditating based off of your brain waves and what brain fm has figured out is they can play certain sounds overlaid over certain types of music and it'll induce those states of mind so this is all fmri like are they showing this no no you can no you don't need fmri for for brain no but i mean in the study no no no these are like so here's the deal do they have studies that show an actual result cool your brain waves look this way but what are the studies so that's what i'm more interested in because you i mean there's a lot of things right now where they oh this is more alpha This is more beta waves.

38:17Yeah, but then what does that end up meaning? Yeah. So they saw focus enhancement brain waves up 119%. This actually translated into sustained attention. That's great. They saw people with improved ADHD symptoms. They engaged different parts of the brain, and they performed better in certain tests. It increased slow-wave sleep by 24 % to 29%, which is great. So you can measure if you're in deep sleep, if you're in different stages. It improved it by 24 % to 29%. So, I mean, it's pretty rad. It definitely works. It's very interesting. I can't wait to see more studies on Brain.fm. And I predict it to be something that might be used in the future for things like ADD, ADHD for kids.

39:03Yeah, just at least as an option that's less impactful. Instead of giving them meth. Yeah, instead of giving them meth. That'd be great. Let's get the kids off meth. Dude, I was joking with my wife yesterday because she was so tired yesterday. She's like, I'm so exhausted. This sucks. I said, don't you wish they had supplements like they did back in the day for housewives? She's like, what are you talking about? Some crystal meth? They used to give them meth. Yeah. Mommy's a little helper. Used to buy them. Well, that's what I mean. I know you guys are kind of tongue in cheek, but the fact that that's what ADD medication is, it's wild that we give that.

39:39I didn't realize how crazy it was until I got diagnosed as an adult. Full disclosure, I got a diadosis as an adult, and I thought it would be cool to try the drugs that are associated with it. And you take them. By the way, I stopped taking it. If you're a parent and you haven't taken it and your kid's on it, that's crazy. I got all kinds of backlash when I said that. You guys remember that? I said that on the show, and I got all kinds of backlash from people for saying that. Don't you want to know? I mean, I didn't until I was what? Freaking mid-30s, the first time I ever took an Adderall pill.

40:09I never went until then. and when i took that thing i was like powerful man holy shit oh yeah dude i took so i and it was like this small i think we were like a five or a ten and they i know they give up to like 20 milligrams i can't believe that isn't that crazy yes so it's wild about it so by the way because people will say well you you don't have add then if you take it and you get high or you feel it that means you don't have add look i have an official diagnosis i've been tested a couple times anybody who knows me will tell you i have all the symptoms of it and i took it and it became a problem for me i actually had to tell my doctor don't give these to me anymore because of its addictive property was leading to other behaviors that weren't great this is a legit drug yeah everybody and i'm like man i give kids you give this to a kid yeah in fifth grade yeah oh no wonder timmy's finally sitting still and super focused on coloring yeah so was i when i came and i took some of this stuff you give me a it's hard it's hard for me too because I have a front row seat with my godson right now of watching him and just you know you have kids some kids they need more physical activity and they don't do well with sitting being still being quiet issue yeah and then we have so many things today with technology and stuff like that and video games it just exacerbates all of it so you you take it you take a kid like that who's already kind of wired to be the you know rambunctious athletic like you know needs to throw the ball needs to sprint needs to do those things you confine him into a little classroom or when he's home you plug him into a video game and it's just like their brains going a million miles and you do that you actually start to train this yes then you do it for a year then two years then three years and now the kid's seven years old with three years of his life like that and then now they're like hey he's borderline adhd and it's like you know okay well maybe if some of these things weren't happening or maybe if the education system was different for him maybe we wouldn't be dealing with this whatsoever or maybe it's not even that big of a problem with him right now and it's just sucks that he gets he gets categorized as like this this kid who needs has these behavioral issues and then the way they try and handle it in school is terrible it's like they isolate him it's like oh you know you're disrupting all the other kids so let's put you over here in the corner by yourself it's like oh my god like oh dude it's so i mean we can't figure out like a physical outlet you know if that's the issue and like you understand that like characteristics in some kids like that that have that it's like can we provide like some sort of solution yeah i'm not look i'm not going to say there aren't cases uh where medical intervention uh might be uh really helpful so i'm not going to say that but when you look at the percentage of of children prescribed these medications you can't tell me they're not over prescribing you can't tell me it's not an over prescription uh look any here's the thing pick any and this I know this is pissing people off.

42:59It's the pharmaceutical MO. And I know why some people are mad right now because if you're a parent and you're - You feel guilty. And you're struggling and you're working hard and you, oh my God, me and my wife both work and we're a kid, this is really tough and we don't have the time. I get it. I totally get it. It's challenging. But if you look at all the medications, if we took a list of all the medications with addictive potential, and there's a few of them, there's quite a few of them, all of those you'll notice are over-prescribed. Every single one. Pain medications, over-prescribed. Stimulants, over-prescribed.

43:31Enzylytics, over-prescribed. Because we like them. We love them. And they produce the effect that we're looking for. And they're for profit. They're for profit. I mean, it's driven that way. Come on. Yeah, I know. Look at these ads, by the way. Doug, these are great. What does that say? This is an old one. There used to be, there's like a kitchen one that's hilarious. Like, more pep in your steak. You're feeling down when you're doing the dishes? Have some more pep in your steak. You're doing the dishes. Now she can cook breakfast again. Is that what it says? Oh my God. Wow. Methadrine. How condescending and sexist, dude.

44:00Methadrine. Super sexist. Mornadine. Okay, Sal, how far off is that from what Adderall is? Oh, good question. Doug, look up methadrine. I think it was legit amphetamine. Okay. I think it was like just straight amphetamine, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Because I wouldn't be surprised if it's that far off. No. I know that Adderall is a version or a type of amphetamine, but it's not a straight. What does that say? Let me just see what the notes say here. It's so crazy. There are two fundamentally different classes of drugs with opposing effects on the body. Oh, interesting. Well, methadone. You looked up methadone?

44:43Well, okay. You must have done a spell check on it. Yeah, dude. It's not methadone. No, I get that. I get that. Not methadone. Yeah. That's why those were two tools. Just look up, what was methadrine? Methadrine. What was methadrine? That's the brand name. Yeah, I was going to say, that's not going to tell you what it really, methadrine is the like Vicodin, right? It's like the brand name. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure it was just ephedra, not ephedra, excuse me, yeah, right there. Methamphetamine. Metafetamine, right there. Methamphetamine. Methamphetamine. So yeah, now compare that to Adderall, because that's what Adderall's derived from that.

45:13Correct. So they're probably very - Methamphetamine versus Adderall, Doug. Let's look that up. because Adderall is just a brand also. It is. I forgot what the chemical name is, but it's a type of methamphetamine. Wow, this is straight meth they were giving housewives. Damn, that's why they got a lot done back then. How are they able to do all that? You're so in trouble today. Man, mom did a lot of things. How was she able to do that? Hey, while he's looking this up, how are you liking Scott Donald's course? Great. So cool, right? It's great, dude. It's so good. What takeaways? what takeaways did you get from it so far oh i mean i like to think that so there's a what's the wheel called oh i i just remember so they have a really cool thing that you do after you you enter in the course that you you rate yourself uh and and it's broken up in four quarters of the years there's a year-long thing that we're going through and uh the first one is courage right is that we're that we're working on and then they're within courage there's like a four quadrants of like things to teach to your kid and there's like uh like um core value family values uh there's finance stuff there's technology and then there's one other one other one that i'm missing and then the idea is when you start this to be very honest with yourself because and they give you examples of like what and and all this is so scott has created this course from over 10 000 families that they've done research on of some of the most super successful families out there and super successful is not just financially successful but uh their kids have gone on to do things uh great beyond the parents healthy they're well adjusted yeah good relationships like all the things right so uh and so you you score yourself and i i and you do it separate so katrina did it and i did it separately uh so we didn't see each other's answers for how we were scoring self i thought we would be really different i just i can be i can be hypercritical she's more positive yeah you you know, and empathetic and she's more, you know, like, and she's always the one that calms me down.

47:15But actually I was blown away by how, how closely accurate we both were. One of the big takeaways for me was the graph. And on one end you had edification and then the other one was expectation. So high expectations with high edification, edification is like encouragement, positivity, expectations are just like what it sounds. When you're good at both of those you're an effective coach or an effective parent or an effective leader yeah when one is good and the other one isn't good you have problems deficits yeah so if it's like really high expectations with terrible edification you're just a drill sergeant you're just if you live that environment manage out of fear you can't wait to get out of there yeah it's like mom and dad have high expectations there's no encouragement and a lot of times that might it might i love the way he described this too that might create a kid who has a lot of success but they never come home but But they never come home and they're anxious and stressed under the surface.

48:09They look like they got all put together. Right. But they hate you. They hate life. And they're just success oriented. Yeah. The other one was only edification with no expectation, in which case you kind of become a - Pleaser. Like a caretaker. Yeah. A kid becomes just a, like they don't really achieve anything. They don't push themselves. Everything's within their comfort zone. So what'd you find there, Doug? So Adderall is related to meth. Yes. One's amphetamine, one's methamphetamine. Exactly. Okay. So the Adderall is less potent, if you will. So they were giving them the strong stuff back then.

48:38Wow, so even stronger. Oh, my God. Even stronger. Woo! Yeah. We're at a good time. Yeah. It's a good time, bro. That's when the original formula Coca-Cola was out, too, right? That's an opium den still thing back then? No, that was way before that. That's wild, you know? That's wild. That is crazy. To think that we're so much smarter now and different is like, no. No, we're not. We're still playing the same game. We're playing the same game. Same again. Just watered down. No, Hunter, it's so similar. It's like we just name it differently. We market it different. We were more ignorant about how we marketed it back then, where now it's like, oh, we have to be a little more clever about the way we present this now.

49:13Same shit, though. Anyway, I want to talk about our partner, Juve, at the Red Light Therapy. More real science? No. Well, I mean, it works. It's great. The thing about real red light therapy is it's more expensive than the crap you find online. It's just a fact. But they're having crazy Black Friday deals. That's what I want to mention. Oh, they are. So if you want the red light that they use in studies, not the red light that you buy on Amazon that's got like one-tenth of the actual. Now's the time to buy. Yeah, they have the Black Friday deal. So if you've been hearing us talk about red light therapy, now's the time to go get that kind of stuff.

49:46Anyways, I want to go back to AI a little bit. I was talking to, who was I talking to? I was talking to somebody that's got some experience with AI, and they also work in the field of therapy. and they were talking about how the AI in this regard is just a validation machine. That's what it does. It just validates, validates, validates. And there was this really crazy, somebody did, they posed a question to ChatGBT just to show how ridiculous it was with its validation. And the question was, this was coming from a husband. So the husband says, you know, I work real hard all day long. I come home, I just want to relax.

50:27my wife wants me to help out and i'm just tired and then at the end of the night she doesn't want to have sex with me and then in the chat gbt is like well you deserve affection and you work really hard and you know she shouldn't ask you to help or whatever and you should see the comments underneath i'm just like what is going on here yeah it was just validate validate i mean i told you guys i think i mentioned it on air it doesn't challenge you when i have well it's also the way you prompt it directly impacts the answer you get and so you could be seeking like okay so i shared with the audience, I believe.

50:59I know for sure I talked to you guys about it. My brother-in-law was looking up stuff related to testosterone. And the way he prompted it was encouraging the chat to give you all the negative things of using testosterone. So he gets this feedback of like, taking testosterone does all these bad things. I'm like, well, yeah, but if you flip that question and go like, well, what are all the adverse and negative things for having low testosterone? own it would give you know what to ask right exactly so that's the part where i go man this is going to be like it's going to be interesting to see as this generation coming up becomes very dependent on this tool that is incredible because i mean don't get me wrong i use it all the time it's very valuable for a lot of different things but i have already now come across a few situations where my experience tells me otherwise because of what we do that oh wait that's not a good answer to that and only because of my experience otherwise i could see where someone would get that prompt and go like this is the truth therefore i'm going to go do the x y and z but because the way he prompted it it completely shifts the way it's going to answer you so yeah there's going to be uh it's going to be interesting to see what that what shakes out from that because it's not this it's not so clear where it's like it's always the best answer to your point that you're making i saw validation i saw this clip with jordan peterson where he said if you guys think because he was talking about the subject then he veered into a different subject but related he said if you guys think pornography is an issue now he goes you just wait till you have a very attractive young woman talking to you developing a relationship with you on the other end seems real it's great and then just for 15 a month she'll take her clothes off another 15 a month and he goes and this for a lot of people will be the best friend they ever had he goes you just wait till you see what this produces and that right there is uh i think crazy danger yeah it's already happening where we're just going to isolate our not we but a lot of people may just isolate themselves because it's the best friend well there's no reason why to believe otherwise considering that's already happening we don't have we don't even have that yet yeah i mean just the introduction of facebook and social media and video gaming going their directions gone it's just we've all become super isolated all the all the research and data points to that and it hasn't even got that sophisticated when it gets that sophisticated it's going to make it that much easier to do that so it's going to i don't know it's going to it's going to cause the thing that i've been calling since for a long time on this podcast what what what's unclear to me is how many people yes it's that percentage there's there it's clear to me we are in the very near future meaning i think in the last less than five years we'll have a major movement of unplugged versus plugged and what i don't know is how big that unplugged movement will be obviously there's already people already trying to do stuff like that but i mean to where it becomes like a real movement where it's talked about a lot and even mainstream uh it'll be interesting to see if it's how close to half it is.

54:01I don't think it will be half, but. I got to tell you guys about this guilty pleasure that I found speaking of social media. There's a whole category of pages. And I didn't know this, but I clicked on one. Now my algorithm's showing me more. These are people that blow things up. Yeah. They take, you've seen them. Yeah, I watched that, bro. They're great. First of all, where do these people live? Because they're just doing it themselves. Yeah, yeah. What state are they in? Like Nevada? Is it like big stuff? Bro, this guy is like, okay, hey, I got this tree. He's in the middle of this desert area.

54:32He goes, I need some firewood. We're going to see how many sticks of dynamite it takes to blow up this tree. He's like, one stick of dynamite. And then he goes, eight sticks of dynamite. And he blows it up. And I'm just like, this is amazing. So I got a funny story since you brought this up. Okay, do you guys use your next door app at all? Next door where all your neighbors all talk? Oh, yeah. Too gossipy. Yeah. It's very gossipy. Drama central. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's definitely that for sure. Who's done shit on my lawn? We'll use it for something like this. So Katrina and I are laying in bed.

54:59voice like two nights ago because i'm trying to pick up yeah take some of the heat off of me what'd you say justin yeah i was emulating a karen voice go ahead adam so katrina and i are laying in bed it's like uh i want to say it's like 10 30 or 11 o 'clock at night somewhere around that time and this loud explosion boom goes off and we're both her and i kind of start a little bit and i'm like that was weird and then katrina gets on the next store app and just maybe someone else talked about or saw it and she's like oh my god this is an ongoing thing almost every night at 10 30 and nobody can figure out what it is and so since then now i hear it every night oh that guy's a legend around around yeah he's totally like messing with the entire neighborhood right now because nobody can there's a whole thread dedicated to the explosion that happens at 10 30 at night like every night like clockwork and nobody knows where it's coming from or what it is, but it happens every night.

55:59Local conspiracy. If I had access to any, we live in California, so getting any kind of fireworks or, you know, it was hard. You had to, like, smuggle. It was like, you're not going to get crazy. But there's some states, man, where you could get some. Oh, yeah. I would have been in trouble. I know the neighbors that will, like, pop off sometimes into the forest. And I'm like, I know this guy's shooting outside right now. One time I tried to, like, confront because, like, my kids were jumping on a trampoline. like shooting into like oh god yeah into and i'm like so i actually went down there one time uh may or may not have had my own oh god just what are you doing bro i'm just saying dude it was like like what are you doing dude like there's kids jumping in this like so anyways he stopped but uh yeah it was it was like dude who does that who just shoots off into like the forest people that live out in Santa Cruz Hills.

56:50Yeah. They do a lot of more weird stuff. Those people. Be careful what you run into. Did you guys hear about that guy? He dressed up like hunting season. He put on a deer outfit. Oh, man. He got shot, dude. No, he didn't. Yeah, he did. No, he didn't. Yeah, this is an old story. Why would you do that? I think he thought it would be fun. I mean, I can kind of see why it's funny, but of course. That is not funny. That's like really stupid. Yeah, somebody shot. And I'm assuming he's out where there's – oh, yeah, that's really stupid. Yeah, yeah. But these explosion pages, I got to tell you guys, if you ever want to waste time, he blows up fridges.

57:28He blows up old cars. I wonder if it's the same guy because I've seen one where there's like a hole in the ground, and it was like at an angle like this. And so he took this like metal bowl and put it – Yes. He put like an explosive in it, put the metal bowl on top, They ran, and then it just shot like, oh, my God. It shot so far. Oh, it's even worse than I thought. It was a trans-species man who identifies as a deer. Shut your face. That's not real. That's satire. That's like the onion. It's satire. That's not a big time. It was a trans-species man. Did you see what he looked like? Yes, dude.

58:06Let's peek right there. You know what it was? He gets in trouble. It was a hunter who was like, that's a dude. Let's shoot him. Let's shoot him anyway. Oh, my gosh. That's amazing. Yeah, that's great. Probiotics give you lots of health benefits, not just digestive, but also helps with skin, mood, and there's now evidence that shows it helps with athletic performance, muscle building, and, yes, fat loss. But which one do you go with? Go with Seed. They're the world's best probiotic. Go to seed.com forward slash mindpump. Use the code 25mindpump. Get 25 % off. Back to the show. First question is from Kevin OG.

58:43what are some tips for feeling the rear delts? I watch the mind pump videos and end up feeling it in my side delts. I'm not sure if I need to round my back more and, or pull my shoulders back while rounding. Here's a good tip. Rewind this episode. I got three for you in there. Scroll back. Rewind doesn't exist anymore, right? That's right. Okay. So here's a tip that I'll tell people with rear delts. It's not a row. So don't think of pulling the dumbbells up or rather separate fly out. that's my cue separate the dumbbells bring them out and that'll give you more rear delt because a lot of times it turns into kind of this you want your scapula you know squeezing yeah with just i i would say that's probably the the most difficult part for people doing rear delts is not getting your back to overtake that it's difficult to do that because it's the rear delt is smaller than those big back muscles and because you are pulling back the back tends to do that but that's why you got to fly out instead of back the suggestion would be to start with a really lightweight and do like an isometric hold at the stretch position at the end, like if we were doing the cable flies that I talked about, go really light and slow and pause at the end.

59:54And that little isometric hold at the end of the exercise is going to help you get better connected and practice that till you get really good at feeling it in the rear delt. Then once you have good connection there, then you can start to really load that and roll it. But if you go right to ripping it really early and you don't have good connection then the back muscles are going to take over and it's in some exercises just don't thank you justin they just don't lend themselves well to heavy weight and a rear delt fly turns very quickly into a row when the weight is especially a rear delt yeah so i i look i can if i wanted i could go real heavy right but i almost never go uh heavier than let's say 20 pounds because if it feels light i just make the form feel better That's all I do.

1:00:35And I get more weirdo. Next question is from Superbella711. How can I get stronger with squats? I'm squatting every week, but I just don't seem to make any progress. Although the reps are heavy and exhausting, I don't really feel my legs. Also, my mind prevents me from lifting heavier weights for fear that I can't get up from the squat. This is funny that these questions are aligned with what we talked about. I know, right? At the very beginning of our tips. I didn't even plan that. It was yesterday. Okay, so let's start here. So it could be diet. And I'm assuming this is a woman because of the name and also because of the fear of lifting heavier weight for not getting up.

1:01:16Typically, my female clients would have that fear. And I would push them heavier than they thought they could go and it was just a fear thing. But there's one of two things. It's either A, you're not eating enough or not enough protein. B, your programming sucks. So if you're following a MAPS program, good job. If you're not, get a MAPS program. They're 60 % off right now. You need to get connected. Black Friday code will give you 60 % off any of our programs. MAPS Anabolic is a great program to boost your squat. So is MAPS Power Lift if you're more advanced. And then lastly, you know, the heavier weight thing, if you use safeties or practice dropping the bar, you'll get over the fear of lifting heavy.

1:01:53A squat is actually, if you know how to dump the bar, which is, it's not hard, you guys. It feels like it's hard, but really practice with the lightweight. Get to the bottom and just throw it back. push it back or use safeties once you practice that then you can push yourself because it is scary right what happens if i can't get up and you know i'm gonna hurt myself but it's not like a bench press you won't get pinned yeah under the bar yeah so practice those things and challenge yourself uh with your weight i mean and again just just to put the cherry on top with the dumping the bar when i'm squatting a heavy squat if i had a client unless they're lifting something light enough that i could lift myself with my hands if i'm squatting a client that's you know if i'm training a client that's squatting a weight that's really heavy, I have them dump the bar if they can't get it up.

1:02:38I don't help them lift it up. That's a great way for them to hurt themselves. It's like I would back up, and I'd either use safeties or have them dump the bar. And go through a phase of tempo squats and pause squats and really hone in on that isometric contraction, that recruitment part of it. If you're not feeling like you're getting any leg involvement, there's a way to really enhance that by targeting and isolating that. So, yeah, lifting heavy and going through the reps is one thing, but then, you know, actually being able to recruit a lot more muscle fibers into that lift, especially at the deepest part of that squat, is really going to make a massive difference.

1:03:15Also, give yourself the permission to do singles, doubles, or triples. Yeah. Most programming, including ours, is like five reps and above. and when I had a female client that would be like, I'm afraid to put more on the weight out of him because that weight right there is really hard for me to get five and I don't know if I could do any more weight. It's like, so what? Let's get three. Let's agree. Let's put 10 more pounds on or 20 more pounds on and let's try and get five. But if you feel like you can't get five and you only got three, stop at three and do that for a while and watch how strong you get doing sets of three.

1:03:49And so this works really well sometimes with my clients getting over the mental hurdle of putting on more weight because they're always thinking in the realm of, they got to get five reps. And that last time I did that, 135, it was hard to get five reps. And so I'm afraid to go to 145, do three or two. And nothing wrong with that. And watch how strong you get from doing singles, doubles, or triples. I think that's a great piece of advice if you've never done that. Next question is from MLMXO. As a dental hygienist, how can I be ergonomically preventative in my career to protect my wrists, shoulders, and neck?

1:04:27Do wrist cars. Do mobility stuff. Yeah, do mobility in between every patient. So in between every patient, five minutes of one or two mobility movements. To counter the position. From Prime Pro will make all the difference in the world. I've had clients that did work like this. I worked with hairdressers who also suffer from some of this stuff. Even engineers, people on the computer all day. Yeah, and you could change your technique. but as a dental hygienist, like there's certain positions you have to get into. So in between your, when you have a patient, you're doing your work. After you're done, spend literally five minutes doing one or two mobility movements.

1:05:03Prime Pro has a lot of great ones in there for the areas that you talked about, you know, shoulder and wrist, and then move on to the next patient. And just doing that several times a day typically does the trick and it makes a big difference. next question is from good juju gains what's the number one thing this career has taught you about yourself oh god number one thing about myself yeah one thing gosh yeah i mean it's it's taught me the things that i'm not good at and the things that i'm good at and what happens when i focus on the things that i'm good at and work on being great at it versus is dwelling on the things that I'm not so good at.

1:05:45So there's a lot of things that fall into that category. But I think training people, even being on this podcast, has continued to highlight my strengths and my weaknesses. And I've said many times on this show before that the single best advice someone ever gave me was, don't worry about the things that you're not very good at. focus on the things that you're good at and be great. And that has served me so much in life. And I think that there's a bit of a skill to that. I actually think that we're taught to look at what we're not good at and fix it and work on it. And it's like, I really kind of release that, let go.

1:06:31I let go of that, outsource it, invest in somebody else in it. Many times when someone else would think that's crazy. Like there's times when I've been building before even this business and other business where I wasn't even making that much money, but I know that I was finding myself doing things within the business that I knew that I wasn't good at. And, but I still needed that money. It's like, I would sacrifice the money live even lower below my means to outsource that to somebody else. So I can really focus on the things that I was good at within the business. And that always served me long-term in the initial that's scary to do that.

1:07:05And it's like, Oh my God, I need all that. It's like, yeah, but this is holding me back. Cause I'm still, I'm working on this crap that I'm not good at or I don't like, uh, I'm so better off being focused on the things I'm good at. So that's the first thing that comes to mind for me. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely revolves around, um, getting better through reps and, um, that being getting stronger or, um, just, um, be more comfortable, be more confident. All of it takes reps and it takes that exposure and that, um, that courage to step out and start attempting it. And then knowing you're going to suck at it and then just everyday chipping away at it and getting better and better, knowing that you will get better if you just keep consistently focusing on that thing and chipping away at it.

1:07:52And it's, again, this is like a moving target too. That's, I guess the biggest thing that I've found from this career is right. When you get strong at something, you realize you're deficient in something else. And then you just move that attention over there and you just start chipping away at that. And the overall benefits, if the more you keep doing that and you realize, and you could see it before it's problematic and you can, you can bring attention to it and start putting reps in that category. It, it, it just, it makes you better overall by the way i think that the reason why most people fail that something like this is just they're not willing to do the sheer amount of volume it takes to get good at it yeah i think so many people quit before it turns i think we have this and i think that's more apparent today than it's ever been with things that come to us so fast this instant gratification and ever at least i know and you're i think we've all agreed this like anything and everything that I've ever been good at, it took me a really long time and a lot of practice.

1:08:59Longer than you think. Exactly. Whatever I thought it was going to take, it took longer than that. And I sucked at it for a really long time, but I had this willingness and determination to get good at it no matter how long and how hard it took. And I think that's where most people go wrong is they expect it to be easier, sooner, or better at it sooner. And they're just not in it for the long haul. And I think that's a bit of a superpower you have that i think everybody in this room it's one of the things we share in common is that ability to just put your head down and put the reps it's it's a very unique and this is referring to this right what we do here right not when we were trainers uh it's unique because we have all these conversations that get recorded you can hear yourself later which is first off if anybody's ever listened to their own voice recorded everybody gets that like oh that's what I sound like?

1:09:50Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's, and that, by the way, that's like 1%. Now imagine you say a lot of words, a lot of things, and you're going to say a lot of stupid things and you hear yourself later in a, in an, in an episode that was recorded or you get feedback and the feedback initially might make you feel defensive. Not to say that you need to listen to everybody. Uh, but if you see, you hear a bunch of people saying something similar and then you gotta be like, well, am I actually, am I actually sounding that way? Am I actually, am I really helping people? So it's like, it's hard not to do this and, and grow.

1:10:24I think if you don't, this is going to, this would suck, right? It would suck to not, you'd be so defensive all the time, but it's interesting. Like listening to yourself talk over and over and over again, you can hear things that you didn't hear when you were saying it the first time. Like, oh, that sounded arrogant or Or, wow, I really wasn't open-minded in that statement. Or I actually didn't help anybody by saying it that way. I just sounded like I was angry. It humbles you and it makes you a little more empathetic too. It does. And way more self-aware than you. Like I would have thought coming into this that I was a self-aware person.

1:10:58But to your point about, yeah, but where else have I ever been able to like hear back? Yeah. You know, hour-long talks that I've had or long, like you just don't get to do that. No. and that is it's like talk about a direct mirror every day in your face uh about it makes you really question your own beliefs and stances and thoughts on a lot of things at a level that i don't think i've ever experienced and so although coming into this i would have considered myself a self-aware person the level of self-awareness and humility that comes with recording it on air and then putting it out for millions of people to listen to and, and, uh, and critique.

1:11:38Well, one thing that I learned, uh, I didn't necessarily, this wasn't like a shocking thing, but it became more and more evident to me was that, uh, I, I, I'm definitely very purpose driven. And I think I would have said that early on too. Uh, but I now, now I really see how purpose driven I am, how much that, uh, motivates and drives me and brings me joy versus let's say success monetarily or you know even success with you know getting attention it's like if i feel like what i'm doing is something i believe in and for me that means i'm helping i'm actually helping people um and that's so important for me uh that i'll i'll give up uh everything for that thing right there and thankfully praise god it's actually brought uh the success so the success actually has followed it um but if i don't feel that purpose behind what I'm doing.

1:12:29Like it just feels dead and you can pay me as much money as you want. It just doesn't feel, it doesn't feel right. And I think we've learned that, uh, many times, uh, through what we've done. So look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram. We'll see you. It's at mind pump. Thank you for listening to mind pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance. Check out our discounted RGB super bundle at mind pump media.com. The RGB super bundle includes maps anabolic mass performance and maps aesthetic nine months of phased expert exercise programming designed by sal adam and justin to systematically transform the way your body looks feels and performs with detailed workout blueprints and over 200 videos the rgb super bundle is like having sal adam and justin as your own personal trainers but at a fraction of the price.

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In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions drawn from last Sunday's Quah post on the @mindpumpmedia Instagram page.

  • Mind Pump Fit Tip: Our favorite unconventional workout hacks. (2:22)

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  • Comet or extraterrestrial? (32:12)

  • The remarkable studies using binaural beats. (37:15)

  • Overprescribed medications for kids. (39:14)

  • Takeaways from Scott Donnel's course. (45:38)

  • Joovv's CRAZY Black Friday deals! (49:14)

  • AI can be a validation machine. (49:46)

  • Guilty pleasures. (54:03)

  • #Quah question #1 – What are some tips for feeling the rear delts? I watch the Mind Pump videos and end up feeling it in my side delts. I'm not sure if I need to round my back more and/or pull my shoulders back while rounding. (58:41)

  • #Quah question #2 – How can I get stronger with squats? I'm squatting every week, but I just don't seem to make any progress. Although the reps are heavy and exhausting, I don't really feel my legs. Also, my mind prevents me from lifting heavier weights for fear that I can't get up from the squat. Any suggestions? (1:00:37)

  • #Quah question #3 – As a dental hygienist, how can I be ergonomically preventative in my career to protect my wrist, shoulder, and neck? (1:04:15)

  • #Quah question #4 – What's the number one thing this career has taught you about yourself? (1:05:15)

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