2753: Lift and Gain an Inch Around Your Butt in 60 Days!

19 Dec 2025 · 1 h 8 min

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Episode Title

2753: Lift and Gain an Inch Around Your Butt in 60 Days!

Podcast Overview Mind Pump is hosted by Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, and Justin Andrews, who aim to expose the raw truths about health, fitness, and nutrition while debunking fitness myths through science-backed approaches.

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Episode Highlights

Mind Pump Fit Tip

  • Goal: Lift and gain an inch around your butt in 60 days.
  • Key Components: Focus on workout programming and proper nutrition.

Main Topics Discussed

  1. Sextortion Awareness (18:35)
  2. Growing concern regarding online scams targeting teenagers.
  3. Scammers use fake identities to manipulate and exploit vulnerable youth.
  1. Disgraced OnlyFans Star (23:38)
  2. Discussion about the legal troubles of an OnlyFans content creator and the implications of adult content.
  1. Increased Awareness Around Pornography (25:59)
  2. The conversation revolves around the negative impacts of pornography on society and individuals.
  1. Food Engineering (29:40)
  2. Examination of how food is engineered for taste and its effects on health.
  1. The Dark Side of Cannabis (37:00)
  2. Insights into cannabis-related health issues, including a new term 'scromiting' that describes an adverse reaction.
  1. Manuka Honey as a Health Remedy (42:51)
  2. Benefits of Manuka Honey, particularly its antibacterial properties and role in reducing inflammation.
  1. Advice for Personal Trainers (44:40)
  2. Tips for trainers, emphasizing the importance of effective communication and dedication to client success.
  1. Mind Pump Butcher Box (53:07)
  2. Discussion on heritage pork offered in their Butcher Box and its superior quality.

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Q&A Section

  1. Question from Leslie Brook W. S.: *What to replace barbell rows as my 10-year-old struggles with mechanics?*
  2. Answer: Suggested alternatives include seated rows, one-arm dumbbell rows, or T-bar rows for better posture and safety.
  1. Question from Nancy Holmes: *What to do if aesthetics lag behind strength and overall health?*
  2. Answer: Maintain focus on strength, sleep, and nutrition; aesthetics will follow with consistency and time.
  1. Question from Ryan W. Richards: *Current opinion on full-spectrum CBD benefits?*
  2. Answer: While the initial hype may have lessened, CBD remains beneficial for sleep, anxiety, and overall wellness.
  1. Question from Stacy Thomas Photography: *Is it okay to bounce around fitness programs?*
  2. Answer: Yes! As long as the approach helps maintain consistency, it's perfectly fine to adjust programs based on circumstances.

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Key Takeaways

  • Building Muscle and Nutrition: To effectively build muscle, one has to eat in a surplus and focus on hitting protein targets.
  • Muscular Development: The glutes are a prime muscle group that can be developed significantly with proper exercise programming and nutrition.
  • Impact of Aesthetics on Well-being: Focus on foundational health aspects (strength, sleep, nutrition) while being patient with aesthetic changes.
  • Cautions with Supplements: CBD shows promise for various health benefits but has seen an influx of products leading to potential quality dilution.
  • Adapting Training Programs: Flexibility in training routines can help maintain consistency and motivation, which is more crucial than sticking rigidly to one program.

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Notable Individuals Mentioned

  • Dani Demeter
  • Max Lugavere
  • Ben Greenfield

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Conclusion This episode of Mind Pump emphasizes the importance of nutrition and proper workout programming for muscle development, particularly for aesthetic goals, while also touching on societal issues regarding internet safety and health trends. The hosts provide actionable advice for both fitness enthusiasts and trainers, focusing on consistency and a holistic approach to health.

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2:07That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. Build your butt. This is really popular nowadays. Here's what we're going to do for you right now. We're going to talk about how you can lift and add an inch to your booty. Solid inch of muscle to your butt in 60 days. We're going to break it down for you. Let's go. It's popular nowadays. I'm pretty sure that's been popular. It's a thing. It's been a thing for a while. I mean, I guess pre-J-Lo, it wasn't that big of a thing. At all. And building your butt wasn't even a thing still. It wasn't until probably... It was Jennifer Lopez. You have a build to build.

2:46Yeah, well, because everybody wanted that. So, I mean, I remember that era, right? Being a personal trainer. And clients coming in and being like, I want a butt like J-Lo. And it's like, well... You know what they used to say in the 90s? I want my butt to be smaller. Yeah, that's what I mean. It wasn't until... It was all about being thin. It wasn't until late 90s, early 2000s where J-Lo was on the scene and popular and famous, right? And everybody decided, I want a big butt. And the good news is with your butt... Right, all those came out later, right? Well, the good news is with your butt is it's a muscle.

3:20You could totally develop it. You can make radical and dramatic changes. It's no different than the guy who says, I want big arms. It's the same, exactly. It's a muscle. So it's not like boobs or something like that. In fact, I would make the argument in case it's easier to build than a guy who says I want to build arms. Those are small muscles. The glutes are one of your prime movers, one of the biggest muscles on your body. And so the potential for it to develop and grow is far greater than somebody's bias and tries. And functionally speaking, the glutes are a very important muscle. uh they're they're crucial for athletic performance balance stability for back health yeah it's actually a big advantage if you build up your glutes in terms of overall strength and force generation totally totally 100 and building your butt is not it really isn't rocket science it's it's actually consistency good workout programming and diet and i think we'll start with diet because here's what i see today now this maybe wasn't the issue 10 years ago i'd say 10 years ago when we started the podcast, one of the big issues was workout programming.

4:25A lot of people just didn't do the best exercise to build her butt. So whenever you'd see a girl say, I want to build my butt, they would do a lot of these kind of not worthless, but far less effective exercises like these, you know, dog pee and kickback and cable, you know, this, that, and the other, and, you know, abduction and, uh, because they'd feel the burn. And so a lot of the conversation back then was workout programming and we'll get there. We will talk about a specific workout program or kind of programming that would help but these days uh more people are aware of the best exercises but you still run into people who are like why isn't my butt building it's because you're not eating enough yeah yeah it's just not gonna happen you're not gonna build anything well if you don't eat any materials it's tough because um most of the time the the girl that comes to you that wants to build her butt is also want to simultaneously shrink her waist yeah and those two goals although somewhat are possible they're conflicting for most people especially if you were trying to go at it yourself and figure out like okay i'm eating to have a small waist but i'm also training to have a butt it's like well what will end up happening is you might get the small waist but then you won't get the butt because you're not eating in enough calories to build the butt and then the other way you go okay i'm going to eat to build this butt but then you see any sort of increase in the waist, or if you put on any sort of weight, you freak out, and then you go the other direction, and then you end up hurting your progress on your process of building the butt.

5:59Yeah, that's true. They're not willing to sacrifice that process of having to actually build up, which may increase temporarily. But you need that, though, to be able to build muscle. You need the calories. You need to be able to increase that. Well, here's the good news. The good news is building makes getting leaner easier later anyway. So that's the good news. So if you focus on building, you'll build if you do it right. And then later getting leaner is easier because now you have more muscle. By the way, when people see changes in body composition where they build muscle and lose body fat at the same time, it's usually because they're trained to build.

6:39And through the building process, what it looks like is this. This is what it feels like for somebody who's gone through this. They'll start to gain some muscle. then because of the increased metabolic rate, they'll get a little leaner a little bit later on. So that's sometimes what this looks like. But I will say this, you want to add an inch to your butt and get it to lift in 60 days, you need to focus on building. If you try to build and lose at the same time in 60 days, you might get a little bit of each, but you're not going to get a lot of the building. And if you build a lot now, you can get leaner later in a much faster, easier way.

7:11So you're better off focusing on building with your nutrition. And what does that look like? It looks like hitting your target body weight and protein, and you got to eat in excess of calories. In other words, if you're burning 2 ,000, if you're eating right now 2 ,000 calories a day or 1 ,500 calories a day, you need to be like a few hundred calories above that, three to 500 calories above that if you really want to make this happen. You have to do it. And if you don't do that, here's how important it is, by the way. you could follow the best strength training workout. If your calories aren't high enough, not only will you not build, I've seen many cases where calories are so low that even with strength training, we see muscle loss and sometimes bone loss.

7:54So this is a really, really big deal. And then just to add to this, there are many times when I would work with a client or when we have a caller who the routine seems decent, all we do is have them bump their calories and then boom, like magic. muscles start to have you have you guys ever seen uh danny's transformation before no oh my god you have to we'll have the we'll have dylan throw up her transformation but i think she's such a great example was she like really i would love to i don't maybe if dill i don't know if dylan knows like i would love to know what her weight on the scale was pre uh strength training and building was she like chronic dieter and stuff before yeah typical young young girl like she didn't look She didn't look emaciated and skinny or anything like that, but she looked like your average girl's build or body in her late teens, early 20s or whatever.

8:43And then she really got into lifting, lifting heavy, strong. But I mean, I would love to hear the difference in her weight because you can obviously see such a different physique that she's built from that. But I bet you it's like a huge difference. A number that would probably scare most women like, what, I would gain that much weight? But then if you see the difference in the body, it's like everybody would go like, oh, of course I would take that physique over the younger physique. My favorite story to share. Because you're a good trainer. Yeah, and I've had a lot of situations like this, but I used to have this trainer that worked for me.

9:19You guys know her. And she was very lean, very petite, but she was very strong. And when I would talk to women who were potentially joining the club that I managed, I would give them a challenge when they would talk about how scared they were of getting bulk in. If you could guess this trainer's body weight within 10, 15 pounds, I'll give you a month membership for free. And they always failed because they would think she was 100 pounds. She weighed like 130 pounds. And I'd have a scale in my office. She'd step on the scale. And everybody was kind of like, what? But she's tiny. I'm like, look, muscle is dense.

9:51And it looks different. So different. Muscle gives you shape to your body. It also takes up less space on your body. so the scale doesn't tell you the whole story at all. And building muscle in this process will probably result in some weight gain. So if that'll freak you out, if you're listening to this and you're like, oh my God, that'll totally freak me out, then don't weigh yourself. Don't weigh yourself through this process because it'll get you. I mean, I normally have to do that with clients that have goals like this, especially when they're like, I want to build my butt and shrink my waist.

10:22I know that I have to increase their calories. I know there's a chance the scale is going to stay the same, possibly even go up a little bit. and this is just you know the veteran trainer should know this like that you you you don't let that client you don't let that client weigh themselves you tell them that you got this and i've got the process don't worry i know what i'm doing type of deal i don't want you on the scale and i'll let them know why is because i'm like you know there's a chance it could go up a little bit but that doesn't mean we're not doing the right thing you're absolutely doing the right thing how many times did you have a client stand backwards on the scale or you take their measurements and that was the move yeah that was the move when we had the doctor scale inside the office it was get up on the scale turn around be like why i'm like you don't get to know only i need to know i need to know just to see where we're at and literally all i care about is if i see any massive swings i'm not really tripping on the one to three pounds here or there as we're going through this process that's all i'm i'm paying attention to all right so uh and now just to touch on how i opened it is reasonable if you do the right things like we're going to talk about especially in the calorie surplus hitting your protein to gain an inch uh around your butt in 60 days.

11:26It's a pretty good goal, but it's a reasonable one. I didn't put one out here that was like crazy. So you could do this if you follow what we're going to say. So we're going to give you a basic three-day-a-week butt-building routine that doesn't include exercises for the rest of your body. So what we're going to talk about are the exercises that are targeting the glutes here. Now you can add, and you probably should add, three additional exercises in each of these workouts to hit the rest of the body. So you're going to be doing per workout anywhere between probably five, roughly five exercises, maybe six at most, but you could also do as little as four.

12:03So that's what these workouts are going to look like. So we're going to start with day one and you want to have ideally a day off in between these workouts. So this is a three day a week routine. So it would be like a Monday, Wednesday, Friday type of deal, but it could also be, you know, whatever three days, so long as there's a day off in between that would make this ideal. But the first exercise you're going to do in day one, and by the way, the order is important here. So when we say workout one, workout two, like try and do them in this order, okay? Because there's a rhyme to this reason.

12:29But the first exercise, hip thrust. Hip thrust, you could load heavy. It is a glute-targeted exercise. And especially for people, it's not necessarily better than other butt-building exercises, but it is an easier one to connect and target the butt. He's one of the only ones that really can isolate it, if you want to call it that. With load. With load. As I said, there's some, like, I mean, this is why people like butt kicks and movements like that is because they can feel it and isolate it, but they can't load that. Yeah. Hip thrust, you can do weight to that. Yeah. Hip thrust, you can load, and it's very targeted.

13:03You can feel it. One of my favorite movements, especially with a client who struggles to feel glutes in their other glute exercises. That's right. Because everybody feels hip thrust in their glutes. So hip thrust will be the first exercise. You want to do a few sets and let's keep the reps between eight to 10. And then you're going to do Romanian deadlifts. Romanian deadlifts are also a glute and also hamstring exercise. So those are the two exercises you do in workout one. And you can add three, maybe four exercises that'll target the rest of their body in that workout. The next workout, which would be not the next day, but the day after, you're going to start with barbell squats, which is the king of lower body exercises.

13:44So you're going to do barbell squats. Same thing, a few sets for right around 10 reps. And then you're going to do Bulgarian split stance squats following that up. And then workout three is just deadlifts. You're just doing conventional or sumo deadlifts. You pick. Sumo. I love sumo because you have Romanians in here, and I'm also biased. Not a bad, not a bad. And I'm biased to sumo deadlifts for building the glutes just because it hits the glute med, and that's an area. More hip-focused. Yeah, with that wide stance. Yes, that wide stance and opening the knees up. It engages the glute mead. A lot of times when I had clients that suffer from sleepy butt syndrome, it was glute mead.

14:23They're glute mead. They just weren't connected well to it. And the sumo deadlifts does a great job of helping you get connected to that. And because you already have Romanians, I'm doing that conventional. That to me is like the perfect. Now, here's the deal. You might think, well, how do I know if this is working besides the fact that my butt looks different, you're stronger. So in 60 days, if you're seeing yourself through this workout, add weight to the bar on any of these exercises or especially all of them, you are moving in the right direction. And for those of you that are afraid to eat extra calories, if your strength's not going up and you know that about yourself, bump the calories and watch what happens.

15:07But you add, again, you could probably add through this workout in 60 days, 30 pounds to one of these lifts your butt's going to be bigger oh your butt's going to be bigger if you hit protein intake consistently every day follow exactly these lifts three to five hundred plus surplus calories and that's all that's the only thing you focus on you could do other stuff yada yeah but that's the main thing that you just yeah that's the main thing that you just say i'm consistent about for 60 days i guarantee you see a huge now let's talk about things you shouldn't do or things that get in the way of this.

15:39A bunch of extra stuff. Yes, a bunch of cardio. Thinking that more stuff is going to help you out here. Do this all with a hip circle band. In fact, I wanted to say when you were talking about these are the three. We're not going to talk about the other list, but honestly, if your main goal is you really want to build a butt, I'm doing literally on these other three days one exercise per muscle. Yeah, in addition, one or two exercises. That's it. like you don't need minimal is better here yes you'll build more muscle yes if it's minimal and now here's where a lot of people might mess up they're gonna do a ton of cardio yeah with this so they're like oh cool here's my routine i also like to do an hour cardio or they add what we just said to like already another program it's just like try and bolt this on something it's like less is actually more here if this is the main focus and i'm telling you if you just throughout the week divide up the rest of the body yeah so not even in every workout like the rest of the point so like here's a press here's a row yes yes yes and it's not all in the same work that's right agreed like that's all like you just make sure you get a press you get a row uh inside the inside there and a day of like some arm work like that's it like to cover it just to cover the basis that you're touching all the other body parts one time that is is is great for what you're about to go do The mistake that people will make is they will take this formula and they will bolt it on to other stuff they're doing.

17:06They're group classes. Yes, group classes or burning a bunch of calories with weren't running or already have a strength training program. And this is like literally follow it like that. The more you isolate, prioritize, and you really just set this aside without any of the volume around it. watch how your body responds so much better to that specific targeted signal that you're sending yeah i used to love uh getting people to buy in to this philosophy and trust me and then watch them watch just their minds get blown as they get stronger stronger stronger and they come to me and go i'm looking the way i wanted to look except before i would over diet over train do everything this doesn't make sense to me except i see it working and now i think you're right about adaptation recovery and all those things i used to love doing it well if if you are not getting stronger and it's not working for you it's one of these things either you're not eating in a surplus you're not hitting your protein or you're doing too much too much yep it's one of those three things otherwise you'll be getting stronger you'll be seeing results so if you're not seeing results it's one of those three things that is your issue or a combination of all of them like you're sometimes you're not consistent with the protein other times you overtrain and do other stuff it's like yeah and that typically is what it is it's like well i don't i most always hit my protein well most always is only once in a while they miss but then they also do the other it's like follow the way it's laid out just do those things watch what happens in 60 days all right i gotta tell you guys about something justin you'll probably gonna want to pay attention to this because you have teenage boys.

18:41And I'm going to have a conversation with my daughter and my niece about this. So there's something that's happening right now that's on the rise called sextortation. Have you heard of this? Sextortation, sextortation, I think they call it. So this is where, and I'll pull up the article. Apparently it's growing and it's a thing. And teenage kids - Is this like a term over exploration, but it's sextortation? No, dude. So there are groups that target U.S. kids with this. And what they do is they find a way to get in contact. And I'll pull this up. Online scammers scour public social media profiles to learn about a teen.

19:25Then they pose as a flirtatious peer. And they know information about you because they can go on social media and they can make connections. So they'll know, like, for example, there was this one kid who this happened to where they acted like a 17-year-old girl. They had real pictures of this fake girl. They knew what gym he worked out at. They knew a couple of his best friends. They name dropped. They knew that he played basketball for this high school. They started going back and forth with these flirtatious texts, built trusts. Then they started to trade photos. photos. And then when they got compromising photos of him, they said, hey, we will show your whole family if you don't give us X amount of dollars.

20:11Now this poor kid, there's this one kid, this 15-year-old boy who had sent illicit photos because they had sent it back and had developed this relationship with this fake kid. And they said, you got to give us money. And he said, all I have is 30 bucks. I'll give that to you. Gave it to them. They said, no, that's not enough or whatever any of the kid ended up committing suicide because he was so afraid of these photos getting put out there publicly so this was like i was reading this article and like there are online scammers that are doing this right now and they're targeting kids so it's a conversation i imagine this is a special place in hell for these people oh my god i would imagine this is way more common happening to boys than it is happening to girls no equally oh yeah interesting oh yeah i mean if you can get a kid to send you like yeah but i feel like girls are way less susceptible to that than guys are i feel sending photos of themselves yeah not just yeah that and the and also believing this this random random guy or person i feel like it's i'm not saying that it doesn't happen i'm just saying that it would be i could totally see the teenage boy who is you know got a cute girl who's messaging him and thinks he knows it's happened to both really yeah wow it's happened to both and and uh so the conversation i think that's important because how do you talk to your kid about this it's like well first don't ever send anything through text because that you don't want getting public because it's out there and then number two if you ever did i don't care you'll never have to be embarrassed with me i don't care what comes out because if that does happen imagine the fear imagine if you were that kid yeah and you sent photos you're like oh my god my parents are gonna see this yeah i know it's so scary i mean i had a conversation one time about this and it was like an innocent uh thing it was like um like one of my kids like took pictures but to like you know mess with his buddy and so then i freaked out and i had this like huge come to jesus talk with like both boys i'm like this is how it is and you know these things are live on the internet and you know all that kind of stuff and but that was a while back and of course you know of course there's these like disgusting people out there like trying to manipulate and abuse yeah dude so just reading about that how terrible how terrible for the parents to not be in the loop is there uh in an age group it's more popular in teenagers teenagers just teenagers in general wow yeah yeah and i think it's because i mean obviously if you're in your 20s and someone does this you're more of an adult you're more like whatever dude put it out you know it's embarrassing but as a teenager yeah well you you know that's like the big deal oh yeah you're already insecure i feel like the threat would be more to like the the high school and the school than even mom and dad i feel like yeah that's right would be like we're gonna i mean they threaten them with because i remember so my buddy's a was a principal and he says that's that was popular that was very popular and a major thing that they had to to deal with is even like boyfriend and girlfriend yes horror stories about that yeah and you know one of the boyfriend sharing with his buddies what my girlfriend sent me or this that and then somebody decides to send it out to every...

23:15Or they just break up and they do it as... Or that, right. Revenge. Yeah, exactly. So that's a common thing that they'd have to manage at the high school. It's just that would happen all the time. There's a false sense of security because you think, well, they sent me a picture of them. So if they release mine, I'll release theirs not knowing that it's not even that person. They don't care if you release that. just a scammer yeah anyways along those lines uh there's this this this we've talked about her before she was an only fans girl and she did this crazy challenge anyway was this that bonnie blue i brought her up a while ago just because the stuff that she's just it's crazy what the world and what the world is with some of this stuff but anyway she got arrested in indonesia and faces uh I think like years and years and years in prison because Indonesia has a strict anti-pornography law.

24:08And so she was filming herself in a bus recruiting, you know, legal of age, but teenage boys to sleep with her and to film it. She got caught in Indonesia and she's over there right now. And they're like, think about throwing her in jail. Wow. Yeah. Which is, which is wild. What would, what would make her go to a country that's illegal, right? That. And then after she already owns the record, right? Didn't she own the record of the most guys? This is her, like... Yeah, dude. Poor thing, dude. I mean, it's... Just how... Some screw loose, yeah, for sure. Oh, man. But so now she's sitting over there waiting to potentially get thrown in jail.

24:45And to be one of those guys, dude. Like, come on. That's so gross, dude. Oh, you guys, I forget. You guys have... How did you ever want to be associated with that? I forgot you guys haven't watched... You know these guys... P. Diddy, yeah. You guys got to watch it. There's a part in there where... he's hanging he hangs he's he hangs out with all the crips like all the main like crip gangsters and stuff like that and you know he's so like you know he's got he power trips want wants all this attention from all these women like p diddy was crazy he was getting after other other famous people side chicks like he just power trip once once it all wants everybody and he's hanging out with all the the gang members that they're meeting at a place to basically talk about some like crazy hit or some shit like that and they roll up and he's like making out with this chick and like the gang the gangster is like laughing and they're all like laughing at pete diddy and he's like what's so funny man it's like hey bro you just roll into town and just start kissing with you know she's sucked everybody's dick in here right oh no oh no oh no right here yeah yeah he's like all kissing make it out all these all these gangbangers are all laughing because they're like yeah she's had all of us that's what you're trying to be too powerful trying to get too much gets blows up in your face you know you know what's funny though along this these lines there seems to be a there's so much more awareness around uh just this kind of topic you know like pornography and uh just this kind of you know just these just how damaging it is i've never seen so much awareness around it um where you're hearing experts talk about it and you're hearing young men now say this is damaging i don't want to deal with this and did you guys know that so So I just saw this report.

26:26Pornhub is losing viewers at massive amounts right now. Really? Massive amounts. Now, they're blaming certain states passing whatever laws. Yeah. But there's speculation that the trend is moving in the opposite direction where more and more people are like, probably not a good idea. Yeah. I don't think I should go there. So it's pretty interesting. Is shame going to come back or what? I think awareness, dude. I feel like, yeah, we did a good job of eliminating shame. and then it's like all of this is out there now yeah you know and it's like okay like maybe there's a place for it like a little bit like well i think there's societal shame exists for a reason yeah i do i really do and and now i get the negative side of it we shouldn't we probably shouldn't do that you know it's like like nobody's saying that anymore yeah i think i think what we're experiencing and what we're gonna see is that we went to a place where we we had because I mean I was a part my church was on top of that when I was a kid bro that was church though no I know but my point is like there's been a percentage of people that have been have been beating the drum for a very long time that this is oh yeah not healthy not right oh yeah I think we had mass adoption by everybody and the end had to get so obvious exactly it had to get so bad so obvious what we'll probably land in is just you know 75 percent of the people do and 25 % of people don't.

27:50You know what I'm saying? Like that's unfortunate, but I don't see something so accessible, so addictive, so justified that going away and like the whole, everybody going like, this is not good. You know what it's going to require? It would require actual regulation. Yeah, they're not going to do that. Because it's like any other addictive, you know, whatever substance or behavior. But where do you draw the line on that, right? I know you're, or at least you weren't, you weren't a big regulation guy. Oh, I think it needs to be, I think we need to make it virtually impossible for anybody underage to.

28:27Oh, I think we all agree there. That needs to be a thing. But even then, it doesn't, I mean, sure, that would sniff, there's plenty of 18, 19 year olds that's the first, just like the first thing they do is go out and buy a pack of cigarettes or buy an alcohol when they're 21. First thing they're doing is logging into their porn hub when they can. So, you know, does that really solve a lot or does it just help a problem that's still going to be a problem forever? What they find in the data is that when it's consumed at a young age, it's far more likely to become. Yeah, it's more detrimental. Not just detrimental, definitely, but it's far more likely to become a problem as an adult.

29:00When you find men who didn't consume it much in their teens, then as adults, it just doesn't become an issue. It's not like that. I mean, wouldn't you say that's pretty much everything? Yep. It's not, I was going to say. How the brain develops. Yeah, if you introduce drugs, alcohol, cocaine. Process food. Yeah, totally. I mean, name a thing that's not good for us, that's not healthy for us, that you introduce at a – the younger you introduce it and the more of it you consume at a young age, the more detrimental it is to you as an adult no matter what. Your brain – No matter what. It molds itself around these behaviors because it's changing and growing so much when you're a kid.

29:40I just had this conversation with Max Lugavere. I was down there in LA. He just released my podcast with him. And we talked and we actually had this great conversation. It was a short part of the podcast. Most of it was about health and fitness, but we talked about how like what we do really well, what humans do really well, which isn't great is we'll take something. We'll take one segment of it that we like a lot and we'll concentrate the hell out of it and make everything about that thing. That one thing, for example, food, food has a lot of value. There's a lot of values around food. There's nourishment.

30:11There's for health. There's for athletic performance. There's connecting with other people. And then there's also the pleasure of eating it. Those are all real values. What do we do? We take the pleasure of eating it and magnify the hell out of that and kind of ignore everything else. That's what we create is heavily processed food. That's what heavily processed food is. You look at human connection. Human connection. Tons of value around human connection. One of the value is that you just know people and you can talk to them. So what do we do? We process that and turn it into social media. So now we're more connected to more people, but more lonely than ever.

30:42We did the same thing with sex. It's got all these values. One of them is this dopamine hit, this like instant whatever. We magnified the hell out of it and ignored everything else. And we turned it into - We made it all about the body. Made it all about the lust part. And that's pornography. It's processed food version of sex, essentially. And so you get all kinds of dysfunction when you do that. you know that's why i think if they take fitness and they figure out how to create a pill that makes you jacked and lean we're screwed i'm not us screwed people are screwed they have no idea you know it's just how detrimental it's going to be you know what i feel is really controversial to say in talking about this topic and how i feel that's how i feel about uh even something like sugar when you look at how sugar is found and it's it's natural like the way you would get it is so difficult to process the amount.

31:34I know. And not only have we justified that as adults and humans, but we encourage it and give it to children. And the way it acts on the brain for a child in comparison to what it acts, and it's so funny and it's so cute and we all do it for sure. And it's, I mean, for sure, introduced at an extremely young age and then consistently given. And then we use it to reward their brains for doing said thing. like but it's not talked about because it's sugar it's good it's cake it's all this it's all this stuff that we have justified is so good but it's like man you talk about we figured out how to engineer the shit out of that to make it like cocaine for the brain and then we give it to our kids what was that once that i used to mention it all the time like how much sugar cane you would have to eat yeah in order to get the amount that's in a soda can which is like 35 grams or 50 grams of sugar, they eat eight feet of sugar cane.

32:27Yeah, I remember that. Which is like bamboo. Like a panda bear. Yeah, like a panda bear is the only person that could do that, right? Your stomach couldn't even process all that fiber. You couldn't chew it, dude. And you're only talking about a 35, whatever a soda can is. I think a soda can is 35 or 50 grams of sugar. And we give these kids this, and it's crazy to think that that's not changing their behavior. This is why when you stick to a whole food diet, you tend to eat appropriately. You just tend to. You don't have to try necessarily. The only thing you have to try to do is avoid processed food.

32:58And that alone makes most people would fall within a body weight, especially if you combine it with exercise, that's kind of okay. Just from doing that alone. You mentioned sugar. The three big components in nature for palatability are sugar, salt, and fat. All three of those are difficult to come by. Salt is actually in nature difficult to come by. In fact, they used to do wars over that. horror's over that. Yeah, yeah. Fat, you had to kill a big animal. Yeah. Not even a small animal. You could kill a squirrel or a rabbit. It doesn't have that much. You have to go learn how to hunt. Yeah. And then sugar, until we learn how to like, you know, plant things or whatever.

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33:35Go out in nature and go find a bunch of sugar. Yeah. You gotta go get a bunch of bees. And even then you need tools to fit like new age tools to be able to strip it from the bamboo like sticks it grows. And like, you're not doing that. Even if you could go gather all of it as a human back in the days, like to whittle that down, Well, the most concentrated form is honey. Like, go ahead. Go grab a bunch of honey in nature. You better go get through some bees, dude. Well, even the fruit. I mean, we've, you know, selectively adapted and engineered the fruit. So it's like it produces bigger amounts of sugar fructose.

34:11And so it's like this big sugar bomb. It's been a long time since we brought that up. There are old paintings that are like 300 or 400 years old. It was like small. Of fruit. Bitter. You could look these up, everybody. These are paintings. They're realistic paintings. So these are artists that they weren't distorting. They made like real nice artistic paintings. And these are fruit. And they're sliced in half. And they're full of seeds. Yeah. And there's very little meat. They look almost nothing like the fruit that we have now. Yeah. Totally different. It's like all vitamins. You know? We've just solved all these things.

34:43It's like, as humans, we love it. You know? It's like, how can we get more of it? And we've solved that problem that we thought was a problem, created a problem. Have you guys had cotton candy grapes? It tastes like cotton candy. What did we do? Those are awesome. Actually, the story behind that is actually really crazy. I forget who the guy who did it is. I want to say he's from Florida. But maybe you can Google the cotton candy, the story behind the cotton candy grapes. But it's like somebody figured that out. Somebody figured that out by crossing certain strains to get that kind of flavor. Well, when I was a kid, I don't know if you guys remember this.

35:18When I was a kid, so we're Southern Italian, and there's certain fruits that we love to eat. And one of them is watermelon. It's like a big thing in the summer. We'd slice up one. It used to be full of seeds. I used to have to spit out the seeds when I was a kid. And I remember my dad's like, you can eat the seeds. And I'm like, okay, whatever. You don't get seeds in watermelon anymore. There's plenty of water. They're all seed. That was us engineering the hell out of this thing to make it have less seeds in it. I don't remember seedless watermelon when I was a kid. No way. What you got there, Doug?

35:46Yeah, so they cross-pollinated concord-like grapes with a sweet seedless California grape. And then you got the spun sugar taste. Was it a guy from Florida? I thought it was a guy from Florida. I'm not sure. Not that that matters. I remember reading this. I was so fascinated the very first time someone gave me one of those. I was like, they called it them. By the way, I wanted to mention too, sugar cane, you can actually chew it up. That's actually popular in some countries. They cut up pieces of sugar cane. You chew it, it's very fibrous. You chew the hell out of it though. Yeah, and you spit out the fiber, but you get this kind of sweet water juice.

36:20Yeah. It's actually really tasty. Huh. You got like three grams of sugar. Yeah. You're not getting much sugar at all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the, I think you would have to chew eight. I believe the stat that I read was eight feet of it to equate to like. Yeah. That makes sense. Makes total sense. Yeah. Like you'd have to chew eight feet. I mean, they take actually whole stalks of sugar cane. They run, run them through a press. This is in Vietnam. Okay. And the juice comes down and they fill a little plasticity. bag and they poke a straw in the top with a rubber band. You just drink it.

36:52It's like two or three stalks of sugar cane in a little bag of liquid. So that would make sense that it would equal like a Coke. Wow. You know, it's funny. Markets do this. Anytime we have a market for something, we do a really good job of giving it ourselves what we want the most. And one market, I was reading this article. Have you guys heard of, it's a term now, it's called scrommeting. Have Scromity? This is a disorder. Is that on your scrotum? No. You're vomiting on your scrotum? Whoa. I'm totally scromity right now. How sick are you right now, dude? I'm scromity. I'm scromity. Oh, crap. Dang, dude.

37:32I'll give you a moment. You threw up on a bowl. No, no. So scromity is, it used to be a very rare occurrence, but they're seeing it more and more. So this is what it is. this is a condition where people will consume high doses, frequent high doses of cannabis, and they'll develop a disorder where they vomit uncontrollably. Oh, my God. And it's terrible. It's terrible. Like, people will vomit for, like, days. And they have to go to the hospital as a result. And the reason why I'm bringing this up, by the way, this is becoming more of a thing, is because cannabis became largely legalized. They have to be dabbing in order to do that.

38:09That's what that will cause. Bro, what's happened is - They concentrated it. Yeah. Our markets, people are like, oh, cool, weed. Can you make it as strong as possible? And so every year it just gets stronger and stronger. I mean, I shared this, the history on it. So back in the days, in the 60s and 70s, really high, strong THC weed was like seven. Maybe the peak or record was like 11 % THC. You can't even find that. No, you can't. That's what we would call it. Nobody would sell that. We would call it dirt weed today. Yeah. So that was considered like super, super high. then like even in in our generation era like it was a big deal to see weed that was hitting 20 21 that was a big deal like typically 15 to 18 thc was high very high that's in your cannabis club yeah and then the clubs got to the point where you're starting to your people were cross pollinating and learning how to get get it to 20 21 then you started seeing like numbers like 25 then they started you could or they did this a long time ago you could concentrate to hashish Hashish would be like 25%, 30 % THC levels or something like that.

39:11Dabbing and extracts where you started using things like butane and stuff like that to pull it out, you could get it up to like 99%, 97 % THC. So you're talking about something that is almost 100 times stronger than what it's like in its natural form. And it's just, yeah, no, comatosis, somebody, when they hit it. Not to mention all the chemicals and the other shit that... And I know you can do bubble hash and water. Do you know what it does to the mind, by the way, over time, if you smoke it regularly, it does cause low levels of psychosis and paranoia. Sure. It does change how you start to think over time.

39:48So even people who are like, ah, just use it at night, you know, but you've been doing it for years and years and years. It's definitely changing and molding your brain, which, you know, back in the day it was like, oh, weed's not that big of a deal. People just weren't doing it like they are now. And they weren't doing the strength. Yeah. I mean, it's like how we started this conversation. It's like, what have we done with everything? It's like, you know, it starts off as the introduction of it. I like this part. How can I get more of this? Yeah, more, more, more, push it. It doesn't help, too, when the narrative around it ends up kind of switching to all this positive because, like, I mean, I remember being a part of that.

40:22I remember being a part of, like. Yeah, there's benefits for people. Yeah, there used to be a stigma around smoking weed. Yeah, and then, you know, and then we went real hard on all the positive things of it. And don't get me wrong, there is. I mean, I was a part of, I watched people come in in wheelchairs and with arthritis and eating stuff, eating, had trouble eating. I had a lot of people that I got a chance of. But a lot paled in comparison to the mature. That's not the market. Yeah, the market was 90 % of people that were just, what's the strongest thing you have? You know what I'm saying?

40:55Like it wasn't, like there was very rarely did I, and I, in what we prided ourselves on those clubs when we had those, we were trying to serve the 70-year-old grandma who's never tried it before with arthritis and educate her through the process. And we had this little, tiny, little blonde girl at the front door that greeted you when you came in, not the intimidating security card like everybody did. So we were really trying to be the other side of serving the people that it was helping. And even then, that was my percentage. Yeah, my opinion on cannabis legalization totally changed. If you listen to the podcast long enough, I was a huge proponent of legalization.

41:35And now I see that. I thought, I bought into this. I thought more people are not going to use it if it's legal. I thought that it's not going to change how many people. That's not true. Use has already exploded. Yeah, but don't you, it's still too early, Sal. It's still new. it's still i i i think to for it to play out the way you're saying i don't necessarily think you're wrong in that with that original statement how long we have to wait 50 years oh geez oh yeah i think something like that i think it takes a generation of growing up within real and seeing like because here's what's going to happen there's a there's a generation of kids right now that were that are probably probably your guys's teenage kids age that grew up around kids that fully adopted it and their parents don't even care because it was told so positive about it and then there's some kids are gonna be like yeah i don't really want to do it and then it's not gonna be till they see their lives kind of unfold and they go they start to make the connections of like man those kids that smoked weed all the time you know and where parents let them do it like wow and then then i think the next generation gets wiser not a bad point yeah so i just think uh what you're saying like we're still in the it's cool you know and it's better than these other things and so yeah i don't know i think i think uh we'll see we'll see what it looks like you say you know earlier we were talking about honey i've been reading a lot about mgo which let me pull it up i got some studies on it isn't that the main thing that makes the manuka honey special is the so the company we work with manukora has the highest concentration of mgo you'll find in any manukora honey so manukora honey is very high in mgo compared to other forms of honey manukora is the highest that you'll find uh but it's so i didn't know this did you guys know that mgo is one of the few things that can actually fight antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

43:26That's how antibacterial it is. It helps prevent gastric ulcers from H. pylori. So with frequent consumption, it's linked to lower risk. It's good for oral health, reducing plaque, gingivitis, and periodontal disease. That's wild. By targeting... What's wild about that is that what people know about sugar for the teeth is so bad, but yet honey is protective. That's because sugar feeds bad bacteria that destroy your teeth. But N-G-O is antibacterial. Yeah. And it's way more powerful. That's so interesting. It's got activity against MRSA in wounds. You know, a few things. Do you think before we had things like neosporin, so that's probably what we like.

44:06Honey? Aloe vera and honey. Aloe vera and honey is probably what we rubbed all over cuts and burns and stuff, huh? So it's good for, like I said, good for inflammation, digestive health. So this is like, you eat a tablespoon of this. I do it post-workout. and it's good for gut health and good for inflammation, all those things. It's like a superfood. That's awesome. If there ever was a superfood. That's so awesome. Remind me, too, where is it mainly from? New Zealand. New Zealand. New Zealand. Is that the only place they can get it from, or is that where it's predominantly from? That's a good question.

44:35I think it might be the only place, but that's a really good question. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, anyway. So one of our trainers was listening to our podcast live today, And she told me something that I thought was a great idea if you're a trainer or coach listening. It was Mary, right? Mary was the one that made that question. She made a comment, but I actually didn't hear what the comment was. I just heard you go, oh, that's a really good idea. So this is what she said. She's a trainer. She's actually part of our course. So people listening, we have trainers here right now that are getting mentored and coached by our coaches to help them build their business.

45:07So they're actually going to go off, work on their own, but they're learning from some of our best coaches. And she said that she's been doing this while listening to the podcast. and it's a really great way for her to learn. So she'll hear us answer, or I should say help people on the podcast. So people call in with their fitness and health questions. When we're about to give our answer, she hits pause. She thinks or writes down what her answer is to see if she matches up with us. Like as a way to test herself. That's great. I thought that was great. That's such a smart. I think that's so great.

45:37Great way to train yourself how to do that. That reminds me of - Because that's like a real people that have - That reminds me of the tip that I heard Hermosi give when it comes to memorizing a script. I'd never heard this before where you have a script that has, I don't know, say 35 to 50 words on it or whatever. And he goes, you read it all the way through one time and then you X out one word. Read it through the whole time with that one word missing and then you X out a second one. And he goes, by the time you make it all the way through, you will have that thing memorized. Sure. And it makes total sense.

46:10It does. and it's like you're gonna have to have repeated that 35 to 50 times each time you're only yeah each time you're only xing out one or blacking out one word i like that i like it a lot too i was like i wish someone would told me that in school or taught me that i was like that's a really smart strategy to memorize like a short script for that i love that for learning like how you communicate i think fitness is i mean if i was a trainer uh i mean i've always talked about how i mean a part of this the motivation behind when we first started this was you know what was inspired by what we would have liked to have had as trainers i think i think at this stage if i'd been listening to us for a long time the the q a is what i would get the most of totally like i like you guys like us you know and it's like but if i'm a trainer and i'm like working a lot of hours and i know i don't have time to probably listen to all the podcasts it's like the q a is where i would totally yeah well because it makes it so easy i mean back in the day we just would know certain trainers that had specialties uh because a lot of times there'd be questions that are like okay well i kind of know but i know that my friend dennis like he deals with this a lot more than me and i'm gonna ask him this and so to have like a whole library to to then like plug in and find out that subject matter and see how you know we kind of go through that with our experience well this is why If you guys aren't familiar with what Eli is building on the back end in the school app, why I think that's going to become one of the most valuable things.

47:36So our elite trainer group that's in the school app, he's building all the Q &As that we've done through categories. So you can click on one. Yes. So it's like you've got a client-related that's fat loss. You've got a client-related reverse diet. You have somebody that struggles with an eating disorder, whatever. There's categories. And then we've done so many that it's like you can listen to five different ways we've communicated that topic to five different types of people. Well, one of the things that makes a good trainer a really good trainer isn't that they give the right answers necessarily.

48:07Giving the right answers is like the baseline. So to be a good trainer, you should have more often than not the right answers. Or can find the right answers. It's how you communicate those answers. It's how you get buy-in and how you coach that person through it. Right. Because, you know, exercise, strength train, eat pro, oftentimes it's the same advice that you'll give people. You can, of course, individualize it. But it's how do I communicate this? And then how do I coach this person through the process? That's what makes a trainer really good. It's that the clients follow it and then they like it and it's a good relationship that they enjoy.

48:40And then they end up doing it on their own afterwards. And that's the coaching aspect. I think if you listen to us helping people, that's the part that I would say pay attention to. Yeah, it's also the part I think we get most criticized from our peers by. because uh because it's we sound like the no cardio guys or it sounds like there's you know for beginners only or it's like no it's what's happened what you hear is you know 60 plus years of communicating to people and realizing like hey if we had to distill it down to a handful of things that we know impact 90 of the people significantly in their lives let's really communicate that hard and then we can sprinkle in the that we our knowledge around the other stuff but we're really going to drive home speaking to that adam there was a statistic i learned uh years ago managing big box gym so this was probably probably 1999 or 2000 and i remember i was in this big meeting with other managers we had upper management and they showed stats on how many people or what percentage of the population goes to gyms and it wasn't a big i don't remember what the percent It wasn't big.

49:48It was less than 4 % back then. It just wasn't big. And what he showed was basically what happens when new gyms open or there's competing companies is they just pull members from each other. But the reason why they brought this up is they were like, nobody's effectively reaching the rest of the population. There's a big segment of the population nobody's able to touch. Now, at the time, there was a company called Curves that actually did a decent job of it. Now, they didn't do a great job keeping them, and that's a whole other story. but they were actually reaching people that had basically said, I'm not interested.

50:21Fastest, fastest growing fitness chain in history still to this day. Right. So, and it inspired me as a trainer. And I think it inspired even my attitude here with the podcast, which is I'm more interested in getting the average person who has not figured out how to make this a part of our life. I'm interested in that person more than I am in the fitness fanatic. Yeah. The fanatic I'm not as interested. The irony of that though, is that even the person, because I would consider all of us fitness fanatics. I mean, it's what we talk about all day. But the stuff that we teach and apply to our own lives is still applicable.

50:57Of course. It's like it's still the truth. It's still what's ideal. It's still what's like. Now, maybe there's been times in my life where I decide I'm going to get crazy and get on stage. And it's like, and then those other layers of like knowledge and discipline and all those extra things come into play. But when I look at my life as a whole of trying to stay healthy, I'm still that person too. Yet I consider myself a fitness fanatic because I do talk about it all day long. It's a part of my life. So I think even a lot of people that would identify as fitness people still should just kind of really focus on those basics and not get in the weeds with a lot of the other stuff.

51:39Yeah, that's why I think we probably get the criticism because we look through a long-term lens. And I think that most fitness professionals, even people that follow the studies and are very textbook savvy and have this crazy academic background can solve what the client is asking, but they're not looking at what they need. And so - Good way to say it. Yeah, that's a completely different approach. I remember talking to Ben Greenfield, our good friend who, I mean he's been in the space for a long time and he's like I started getting into cutting edge and I started running out of things to talk about because I had to get more cutting edge more cutting edge more cutting edge I'm like I'm not interested in that I think it's cool it's interesting but I'm trying to help people here and I still remember that conversation with him because I remember that because he had been doing it for years before us and we were like so curious to like you know how come you don't really talk a lot about he's like man I talked about that for a long time and then I got bored just talking about that and so then I was into to the next stuff and then and it just kept he just kept he had to follow his interests right and he kept drifting away from like the average person yeah you know who needs his own and there's definitely a i mean he's got an incredible uh community of people that are super interested yeah and all that but and he is the great i think he's one of the best people in my opinion to test that stuff because he checks the boxes and all the other things but for the average person it's just like yeah that stuff is like yeah there's there's like three simple things for you to do if you just do that.

53:07I'm going to change directions here real quick because, you know, ButcherBox was talking to the people that manage our account talking about how popular the Mind Pump box is. Did you hear this? Yes. It's a really popular box that people are going and getting. Doug, what are the cuts in the Mind Pump? These are our favorite cuts. So I know there's Tri-Tip in there. I think the Nuggets are in there. People agree with us. All the things we're like, I think, was it Ribs? I want to say it took, yeah, Ribs. It's literally, I think they took - It's all the ones that we like. Yeah. So it's a specific box for the cuts that we like.

53:39I mean, it's doing well because I think everybody, like, okay, we've been getting these boxes for I don't know how long. We've all had most everything from there and everybody has a favorite thing or two. What are the things that are in our box? Are you looking at it? Yeah, I'm looking at it. I'm pretty sure it's ribs, chicken nuggets. I want - Maybe steak tips. Flat iron steaks, maybe. Okay. Yeah, look at it. Because I know, trichip has to be in there. I know ribs was my con. I mean, that's like a staple for me to get the ribs from there. I stock up all the time. You're like the ribs master. It's those ribs.

54:11I am not the ribs master. I have cooked all kinds of – there's been times when I'm out of ButcherBox ribs and I have to go buy ribs from someone else. And I have my formula and recipe to, like, making a lot of the meat that I cook in the smoker, like, down to the minute, science degree, everything, right? and I have tried multiple times. Is it because it's heritage pork? That's what I asked before. Does that make that big of a difference on the tenderness and the flavor and the way they taste? Now, Katrina, of course, she's my wife. She's sweet. She says things like, oh no, honey, these are good.

54:48It's like, no. I can tell there's a huge difference between that. Did you find it, Doug? I'm sorry? Did you find it? Yeah, I did. So it's ribeyes, chicken thighs, steak tips, ribs, chicken nuggets, flat iron steak. That's what it was. It was a steak tip that I put in there. And I will agree that there's something different about those ribs because I did it for a friend of mine. He said, these are the best ribs I've ever had. I can't figure it out. It's got to be heritage pork. It's got to be the pork. I mean, is that so uncommon though? Is it that uncommon? Do most grocery store baby back ribs not have?

55:20Yeah, I seriously doubt they do. Okay. The average store is not going to have that. And what do you know the difference between heritage pork and not? I think it's the feed largely and how they're raised. So a lot of pigs are just given a lot of crap. Yeah. And I'm not sure about the butcher box pigs, but I know that some are. I know it's labeled heritage pork and I know that's unique. What I don't know is like what that entails. Does that mean they get a certain type of feed for so long? Does that mean they're not fattened up a certain way? Like I don't understand it, but I know from. I know the flavor.

55:54I've cooked a lot of ribs and I've cooked a lot of non butcher box ribs. and I still cannot unlock being able to cook other ribs to as good as I cooked those ribs. It's night and day difference. So it's a different genetics. They're different types. So it's like a different breed of pig. Different, yeah. And farming practices are different. Nutrition is different. So they're from traditional older pig breeds. Interesting. Often called heritage breeds that have been preserved for their genetic diversity, hardiness, and historical significance. Oh, wow. So these include varieties like Berkshire, Duroc, Red Wattle, Tamworth, and Gluckistershire, Old Spot.

56:35Gluckistershire. Yeah. So these all originated before modern industrial farming. Regular pork comes from hybrid breeds optimized for large scale production. Wow. So breeding and raising methods are different. Okay, so that makes a lot of sense. So they're considered superior in flavor due to higher intramuscular fat. That's why. They have more marbling. That explains so much now. Because all the other ribs I always buy, they're always a little bit bigger. They're always a little bit bigger than the other ones, right? So then I always got to cook a little bit longer. Yeah, regular pork, it says here, is blander, milder, and less complex.

57:09Yeah. So just less flavor. That's exactly what I have figured out with it. It's just like, those - Drip off this. So it's got more fat in it, right? But it's got higher levels of beneficial fats, higher in omega-3s because of their pasture diets. Vitamins and minerals due to diverse foraging and natural so it is also not only is it tastier but it's got more nutrients like omega-3s in there well there you go yeah huge win yeah i'm not a pork fan but i've had your ribs and they're good delicious they're on another level good and i and i've now this makes so much sense now because i've been like what am i not doing what am i not doing to make up for that that flavor difference and i've always noticed that they're uh the other ones are a little bit bigger they're like they're always a little bit bigger than the baby back ribs that I get from ButcherBox, but they just never taste as good.

58:00They don't ever taste as good, dude. Well, there you go, dude. That makes a lot of sense. If you want to try methylene blue, get those cognitive benefits, the energy, the mitochondrial health. Check out Troscriptions. This is pharmaceutical-grade methylene blue in a trochee. You can put it in your cheek, absorb it faster, or swallow it on an empty stomach. Get the full effect. Try it out for yourself. It really works. Go to troscriptions.com. That's T-R-O-S-C-R-I-P-T-I-O-N-S.com forward slash Mind Pump. Use the code Mind Pump. Get 10 % off your first order. Back to the show. First question is from Leslie Brook W.S.

58:42My 10-year-old daughter struggles with the mechanics of a barbell row. What could I replace it with for now? Oh, yeah. Yeah, barbell row is difficult because you have to bend over, support your body while doing the row, which makes it harder. It's harder in the lower back. Yeah, and it's harder to get the scapular retraction and the squeeze. If you have access to a seated row or a cable row, that's the easiest way to get the mechanics. If you're stuck with free weights, you could do a one-arm dumbbell row with your hand on the bench, knee on the bench, nice, good posture. Then you can get that shoulder blade to come over the back at that scapular retraction.

59:16You can even do dumbbells. You can do dumbbells here. you could do a t-bar row a t-bar for a daughter sometimes is a little uncomfortable chest support it can be hard for girls yeah yeah girl i said it could be it could be a little more uh 10 year old girl they'll probably be okay t-bar row would probably be a good option here yeah it really there's there's a lot of different options um i think i like best out of everything you said though single dumbbell row is probably that's the one i always go to yeah the most fundamental good one to teach. The key with that is like really teaching good mechanics in it because what you'll find is when a kid or anybody for this matter, but in particular, a young kid trying to learn how to lift is in that position where they're leaning over.

59:58The gravity is like pulling their scapula over and you got to learn to teach them to, as they row, to pull that scapula back. I'll put the bench on a low incline. So I raise it just enough and they can put their hand on, or I'll raise it up higher and they put their elbow on it to put them in a better position. But what you want with the row is, obviously you're rowing the weights, so you want the bar to come up. But what you want are the shoulder blades to come back together and down. So you want to avoid shrugging and you will want to avoid the scapula remaining forward so it looks like this kind of forward shoulder as they're rowing.

1:00:31That's poor mechanics. So you want everything to come back. One of the things I might teach with someone that's this young too is, you'll get really light dumbbells that they're just like 10-pound dumbbells they're holding and get behind them and actually put them in position, put them in position so that like they're, they're in almost in the exact same position they will be in for a barbell row, but they're holding these independent weights that I can then get behind them and actually articulate their scapula back and forth and like tell her, okay, drive your elbows back. And then I actually will take her scapula and then squeezing like, no, this is what I mean by back.

1:01:00Feel that. And then she'll be like, Oh, okay. Then I'll let her come forward. Then, okay, pull her back. And then once she gets that, okay, this is what I'm supposed to feel. Okay. Now I can grab a barbell and now I can do that movement. Yeah. I went through this actually recently with my son and two to just get into that position where he's like at that 45 degree, had him hold on to the squat rack with one hand and do it with a dumbbell on the other. So it's like at least he can solidify that position, hold and brace properly. So he's supporting his lower back. And then we go through that with the mechanics and then, you know, eventually we'll get to the barbell.

1:01:37next question a question is from nancy holmes once you've chased strength focused on how you feel sleep libido and all that is good but your aesthetics have not caught up what should you do next patient yeah you keep going be patient the point people think this is like an overnight thing or that's going to happen it takes a long time or or they think oh cool i'm going to do the things you guys said and once i see some of that now i'm going to focus on aesthetics yeah the aesthetics follow. That's right. The aesthetics follow. It'll reveal itself. The other stuff doesn't follow. You never stop focusing on those things.

1:02:07You always keep focusing on those things and the aesthetics will follow. You don't have to go chase the aesthetics. You keep focusing on those things and if those things keep staying good or keep improving, the aesthetics will. That's right. You ever see that one meme where the guy's digging, you know, and then on the other side of this hole is like treasure, but he just stops like right a couple inches before is what I think of. Now, the other part could be diet you know sometimes you're getting stronger and whatever and you might just need to tighten up your diet a little bit yeah uh diet can definitely play a big role in aesthetics but honestly what i probably think is happening is you're just you just got to keep going yeah diet's a good point though sal because if if you if you were just like i'm not really worried about diet i'm just going to focus on getting stronger working on my sleep my libido strength training properly focus on those things and tighten up eating eating well can can start to do all that but then if you don't consistently hit your protein intake right now and eat whole foods, that could be the next layer to this if you're not already doing it.

1:03:07But if you're doing that, then it's just a matter of time. If you consistently hit your protein intake, you eat mostly whole foods and you keep focusing on the sleep, libido, and like that, the aesthetics will follow. They just will. Next question is from Ryan W. Richards. It's been a while since you spoke about the benefits of full spectrum CBD? Do you still find benefits based on emerging research or has it become overhyped? The overhyped period is over. There was a period there where they were like CBD soap. I think I saw CBD shoes. How does that work? It's overhyped because it works. I've been using the CBD a lot lately, trying to improve and work on my sleep.

1:03:47I haven't had good sleep in a long time. one of the things I'm using right now is CBD. And it does help. So, I mean, I think the reason why something gets overhyped is because there's some value and effectiveness to it. And then if it can be mass-produced like CBD can, then it becomes the cure-all for everything. You know what I'm saying? It dilutes because of the quality of all the companies that are producing it. Yeah, no. I don't think we've changed our opinion on CBD at all. At least I haven't. I mean, I still... CBD is interesting because it enhances your body's, all of how your body's endocannabinoids operate or how you feel them.

1:04:28So you produce cannabinoids yourself in your body. Using CBD seems to enhance those ones that you naturally make. So CBD by itself, it's not psychoactive. It's not like THC or anything else. It doesn't have those effects. But it enhances the effects of your natural endocannabinoids. So what tends to happen with people is they just kind of feel better. It can help some people with anxiety, sleep, inflammation, those kinds of things. Next question is from Stacy Thomas Photography. Is it okay to bounce around programs depending on circumstances? I bounce around from Muscle Mommy 15, Suspension, or Anabolic.

1:05:09If it's how you can stay consistent, it's totally fine. And I'm answering this because the person said depending on circumstances. So I'm assuming your muscle mommy 15 is a time crunch, suspension is because I'm at home, anabolics when I got more time, which is totally fine. Now, ideally, in a perfect world, which doesn't exist, but in a perfect world, you would follow just a program. But if this is how you're able to stay consistent, this is great. There's nothing wrong with it whatsoever. It's hard to add to that. It's that simple. it's like if you have the option and you'll consistently follow maps on a ball the way it's laid out inside of a gym just like that you'll get more like you'll get more bang for your buck but not at the cost of you not being able to do it sometimes because you're inconsistent and you have to train from home and could only use your suspension trainer and so because of that bouncing from muscle you know muscle mommy 15 and suspension anabolic is complete in fact encouraged if it was like oh my god i can't get the gym and do anabolic but what i can do is grab my suspension trainer do that.

1:06:08Is that okay? Like, uh, yeah, hell yes. That's okay. That's great. And that's one of the things that will keep you somebody again, this is a love changing that, you know, I'm the person who's following maps anabolic too. I'm just somebody who works out three times a week. You know, that's, I just work out three times a week. Now I'd love to try and follow maps anabolic all the time, but sometimes I can't, sometimes I only have 15 minutes. Sometimes I can just grab my suspension trainer. And so that is an awesome way to live your life. Perfect. Look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram.

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