2757: When Life Gets Busy, Your Fitness Should Shrink…Not Disappear!

25 Dec 2025 · 26 min

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Mind Pump Podcast Episode 2757: When Life Gets Busy, Your Fitness Should Shrink…Not Disappear!

Podcast Overview Hosts: Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews Description: In this episode, the hosts discuss how to maintain fitness routines during busy life periods, emphasizing that fitness should be adjusted rather than completely abandoned. They challenge the common "all-or-nothing" mentality and offer practical advice on how to stay consistent with workouts even when time is constrained.

Key Themes and Discussion Points

  1. The Fallacy of the "All or Nothing" Mentality (1:36)
  2. Many individuals believe if they can't stick to their full workout regimen, it's not worth doing anything at all.
  3. The hosts stress that doing something is always better than doing nothing.
  1. Shorter Workouts Can Be Effective (6:22)
  2. The conversation highlights the benefits of shorter workouts and emphasizes that even brief sessions can lead to maintenance or progress.
  3. The idea is to reframe the perception of fitness: it's not about the intensity or duration, but rather consistency.
  1. Categories of Exercise Usage (10:18)
  2. The hosts break down exercise into three general categories:
  3. Activity: General movement throughout the day, which is crucial for health.
  4. Athletic Performance: Exercise aimed at improving specific physical abilities.
  5. Adaptations: Targeted workouts to achieve desired physical changes (e.g., muscle gain, fat loss).
  1. Data-Backed Insights on Exercise Programming (14:11)
  2. Data shows that minimal exercise can maintain fitness levels:
  3. Two days a week of strength training can yield 80% of the potential results.
  4. Three days a week can achieve up to 90%.
  5. To maintain gains, just one workout per week is sufficient, focusing on one set per body part.
  1. Consistency is Key (20:48)
  2. Emphasizing the importance of maintaining momentum, the hosts argue that regular exercise—even at reduced intensity or duration—prevents regression and promotes sustainable fitness habits.

Practical Recommendations

  • Transitioning Fitness Mindsets:
  • Grant yourself permission to engage in less intensive workouts rather than skipping sessions entirely.
  • For example, instead of a full workout, commit to just a few sets of key exercises.
  • Daily Activity Recommendations:
  • Aim for around 8,000 steps a day to promote health benefits.
  • Incorporate 15-minute workouts daily, focusing on one or two exercises to maintain consistency.
  • Behavioral Insights:
  • Individuals who practice regular, shorter workouts tend to be more active throughout their day, creating a positive feedback loop that encourages further physical activity.

Conclusion The hosts of Mind Pump provide a refreshing perspective on how to approach fitness during busy times. Their emphasis on the importance of consistency and the ability to adapt workouts rather than abandoning them entirely offers practical solutions for listeners. The discussion serves as a reminder that maintaining a level of fitness, even in diminished capacity, can lead to significant long-term benefits.

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0:00If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump, Mind Pump with your hosts, Sal DiStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the most downloaded fitness, health, and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Today's episode, we talk about what you do with your fitness when things get real busy. Don't stop working out. There's a way to maintain your fitness. In fact, many of you will progress by following the advice in today's short and effective episode. This episode is brought to you by a sponsor, Element. This is an electrolyte powder.

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1:11It's a powerlifting program. It's only 15 minutes a day and it's 50 % off. Go to 15powerlift.com. That's 15powerlift.com. Use the code DECEMBER50 for the discount. All right, real quick. If you love us like we love you, why not show up by rocking one of our shirts, hats, mugs, or training gear over at mindpumpstore.com? I'm talking right now. Hit pause. Head on over to mindpumpstore.com. That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. One of the biggest challenges when it comes to fitness is when your life gets busy. When things start piling on, what do you do? How do you stay consistent? Are you going to lose your gains?

1:47We're going to break it down for you. We're going to give you the answer because when life gets busy, your fitness, it just shrinks, not disappears. I like this conversation, especially at this time of year. I think that – Good time of year. And we're probably all somewhat – maybe not just Sal. Justin and I and Doug maybe more likely guilty of this, right, at some point in our lives where the holidays come around or a season of your life just comes around and you're off the wagon completely. I mean I know I have admitted that this has been me for most of my 20s into my early 30s where it was just on and off, on and off.

2:28Either I'm all the way on or I'm all the way off. And I'd say one of the best things that's happened in my 40s is I'm never fully off. Even if I communicate I'm off, I'm still making better food choices. Because of the fact that I might not be as consistent inside the gym, I'm walking more and I'm making different food choices where it was not like that for me. It used to be, and I don't know if you guys were like this, it used to be like, I'm on the diet, I'm training. And then when I'm off, it's like eating terrible. All or nothing. Yeah, all or nothing. And so I think this happens to a lot of our clients, especially around this time.

3:08Yeah, the all or nothing mentality is a very difficult one. It's responsible for a lot of people losing their consistency. And I think it stems from the belief that if I'm not doing, if I'm not following my normal routine, let's say, then what's the point? I'm not going to, you know, I'm barely doing anything. Does that even make a difference? And so I think it's important to understand that something is definitely better than nothing. Number one, number two, and we'll get to this in this episode, in order to maintain the progress that you've made when it comes to strength training in particular, very little is required.

3:51So in order to progress, there's a certain amount of training volume, sets, reps, intensity that's required to cause to get your body to progress, which it's less than people think there as well. Nonetheless, there's a certain amount, right? In order to maintain what you've built, it's a remarkably small number. The data on this is pretty amazing. So that's something to consider. The other thing to consider is momentum. This is a real thing, right? We've all experienced this, that when you keep the ball rolling, it's easier to maintain. But when you stop completely, it's really hard to get back into the swing of things.

4:25In fact, I'm using verbiage that people use to communicate this all the time. We all know what that's like. So when you look at the biggest challenges that people run into when it comes to their fitness, it really is consistency above and beyond anything else. It's a lack of consistency. And so understanding that something's better than nothing, that very little is required to maintain, and we'll get to that, the data shows that quite clearly, and that momentum is a very important thing to consider, then you can start to piece together what this would look like when life gets busy. And I'll add this, when you do this right, it's actually a paradigm shattering moment for you because you start to realize, wow, I actually might've been doing more than I needed to to get great results, or I can't believe how great a shape I'm maintaining by doing so little.

5:18This blows people's minds. Yeah, I think back in the day, like, Adam, I would go, you know, with that mentality where it was like I had to get the craziest workout and be consistent with that. Otherwise, there's nothing there for me to show up for. And so I just don't think it was communicated that, like, you could go in and you could actually, like, lift weights, but you don't have to do this elaborate long workout that was super high intense. It was just like that was the overall thought process was like either you're training for some kind of event, activity, sport, you're trying to get like in incredible shape.

5:56There was nothing really just about like maintaining a level of consistency and a good lifestyle, good habits and making it a healthy practice. And so I think like, you know, this shift in this mindset shift of like just being able to show up and like make sure my muscles are getting attention and keeping my metabolism, you know, where it's in a good place. And then, you know, receiving a lot of the benefits and maintaining what I have is huge. I'm curious if you guys over the years have like, if you can distill it down to just a couple or handful of things that have really changed in regards to this conversation for you.

6:35I could think of two things that were life-changing for me in regards to the topic that we're talking about right now. One of those is kind of to the point that Justin's making right now. It was giving myself the permission that maybe I'll just go do three sets of squats, that's it. And that's totally okay. That was unheard of as teens, 20s, and early 30s. I would never, it was like, I got to go do this whole thing. My friends would have scoffed at me. Right, to the point where maybe your workout takes an hour. If you only have 30 minutes, you're like, well, I can't go. I can't go. Right. Or if I didn't have the energy to finish a full 45, 50-minute workout, then I wouldn't even go either.

7:18Mm-hmm. So whereas I was like, you know, it's been a few days since I've lifted. I don't really feel like lifting. I don't have a lot of time. All the excuses running through my head. I'm like, you know what, though? I can go get just three sets of squats done. and just giving myself that permission was this huge unlock for me one it unlocked this realization of like to your point that something is better than nothing the it also unlocked like oh wow even just that little bit of a stimulus maintained a lot of us it didn't progress me i didn't just switch to training that way and i got bigger stronger leaner and all way better but it's like you didn't get out of shape i didn't get out of shape yeah and it was like oh that's a huge win That's all I had to do to just kind of weather the storm.

8:00The second thing was not telling myself I can't have this, I can't do that, but being aware of what I was doing training volume-wise. Like when I have a lot of muscle, when I'm built, like I feel like Sal is built right now, I've got a lot of metabolic flexibility. I can enjoy the bowl of ice cream. I can eat out. I can do a lot of things and still look really good and maintain because my training volume's there, my training intensity's there, and I love those things, and I can have that kind of balance. When I'm not, when I'm giving myself permission to only do three sets of something and I may only train once that week or like that, I can't eat like that.

8:40And so what it looks more like is like, you know, if I really want to do that, I need to do these things. And so I just tell myself that I don't tell myself, no, I can't have it. I say, well, you know, I didn't train this week. like if I really want to eat that, then I should definitely make sure I get in the gym tomorrow. And then I'll enjoy that thing tomorrow after dinner or whatever the thing is. And just that balance of not just, like I say, eating like an asshole whenever, and the permission of something is better than nothing is just, is completely changed how I maintain this kind of fit, healthy physique always, even when I'm quote unquote off.

9:21I like to think of it these days as like I'm keeping myself somewhat game ready. And that's just because I like to get after it. I like going super intense and hard, but those are all periodic. I do seasons of it. So I try to at least do a period of a month, two months or so throughout the year where I'm just really getting after it. Uh, but I don't want to, the friction, the, the, the difference between not training going into then going into intensity, it's so substantial. Like I'm not, I'm not going in and my joints and everything are just, you know, aching. And, and I'm, I have like all these extra days I have to recover just to, just to keep going.

10:07So for me, it's like, it just keeps me, uh, keeps that momentum there, but also like, I, I feel like when I want to, I can really express, you know, that side of me. Well, you could, okay. So you could put exercise, uh, into three general categories of, of how you would use exercise. Uh, the first one is just activity. So activity, there's health benefits to activity. The data on this is super clear. Like if you move throughout the day in an appropriate way, like you're not hurting yourself and beating yourself up, but you're moving throughout the day, you're much healthier than if you didn't move throughout the day.

10:46So there's activity. Then you have athletic performance. Exercise obviously is used for athletic performance. Stamina, endurance, agility, power, all those different things. And then you have, which kind of is connected to that second category, which are adaptations. How does exercise get my body to adapt? What am I looking for? What am I looking for from a results perspective from exercise. So we're going to take athletic performance and adaptation. We'll combine them. Most people listening to this are not necessarily working out for dramatic athletic performance. Most people are looking for some kind of a fitness aesthetic change, body fat, muscle, health, longevity, mobility, that kind of stuff.

11:28So those are the two categories, activity, adaptations. So activity, very easy, everybody. Move throughout the day. So if you want to improve your health, just don't sit down all day long. Okay. So what does that look like? I don't know. Get up and walk a few times a day after breakfast, lunch, and dinner. This just tackles it greatly for most people. The data shows that about 8 ,000 steps a day, if you were to track your steps, gives you the vast majority of all the results you'll get from daily activity. So if you want all the health benefits of being active, you try to aim for around 8 ,000 steps a day.

12:02Some people would say 10 ,000, but the data seems to show around 8 ,000 is great. So there's that. Okay. Now let's look at structured workouts, adaptation. It's not the activity part that I want from those. So this is where people get confused. They're like, well, I got to do a lot all the time. Otherwise it's a waste of time. No, no, no. We got the activity part handled. What we're looking for now are adaptations. What do I want? What kind of adaptations am I looking for from the exercise type that I pick? Well, what I want is something that's going to change my body composition. It's going to build muscle.

12:34It's going to help me burn body fat through a faster metabolism. It's going to make me look better. It's going to reduce pain. It's going to improve mobility. And so that's strength training. Strength training does all those things with little time spent, or at least in comparison to other forms of exercise. Like if you want to build muscle, boost your metabolism, burn body fat, strength training does that with way less time than other forms of exercise. Okay, so now let's get to the time. How much time do I need to devote to strength training to maximize its effects? Well, I'll tell you what the data shows.

13:05Two days a week. Always surprises. Two days a week of a full body workout will get you about 80 % of all the results you'll ever get from strength training your entire life. Three days a week will get you 90%. So three days a week is 90%. So think of your body's ultimate potential. I'm not talking about 90 % of the speed of results. Don't confuse that. So your progress, if you do this right, is as fast as it's going to be. If everything's dialed in, there's a speed, and that's that. You can't move it any faster. 90 % refers to your potential. So think of the most muscular, most fit you could ever possibly get.

13:41You'll get 90 % of the way there with three days a week. You'll get 80 % of the way with two days a week. And most people listening to this right now would be ecstatic with the 80 % number. I would go further and say most people would be ecstatic with 50 % of their 80 % potential. Right, right. And this is just 100%, right? If you think of yourself right now, think of the ultimate body you could ever have, and you got 80 % of the way there with two days a week. That's a pretty darn good trade. Okay, how much do I need to do to maintain that? Let's say I've been working out three days a week. Let's say I'm in the 90 percentile category.

14:18Like I'm consistent, three days a week strength training. It's 45 minutes to an hour each time. And I've been doing it now for a long time. Now I go into a difficult season and I'm like, okay, uh, I can't, I don't have the time to go to the gym three days a week consistently or the energy. Maybe I have a lot of stress. Maybe I have a new baby. Maybe I had a new job. Okay. Holiday season. Okay. Should I just not go? Cause it's not worth it. No, here's what the data shows. One workout a week, one workout a week. and I'm not even talking about like a long workout, 30 to 45 minutes. This is what the data shows.

14:54One set per body part in that workout, not three sets, one set, one set of squats, one set of presses, one set of rows, one set of overhead presses, one set of curls, one set of tricep extension and ab exercise. And you're out that right there would keep your progress. In other words, you won't go backwards. You're going to maintain what you've built. That's how little you need. So when things get busy, that's what it could look like. Here's the other option. You know, here's in my opinion, the better option. I like the second, this next option I'm going to communicate because in my experience as a coach, this is the, this is the, the one that's most likely to be consistent.

15:32It's the one that builds the most momentum and it works with most people's schedules. This is just the better option from a, just I've seen it in practice. Instead of doing that one workout a week or two workouts a week, 15 minutes a day. That's what you do. You do two exercises a day one exercise two extra every day and if you miss one big deal you've got five more days you can fit in anywhere and you're done yeah and you're done and for most people not only does this prevent going backwards most people actually go forwards with this because you could progress this what do i mean by that that's not by doing more time you just get stronger yeah there's also another benefit that is i i think greatly impacted that the studies don't show because in a in a controlled study where we just compare the total volume and sets and if it's equal in one day versus stretch over the results are pretty similar but behaviorally speaking that's right when you've trained a lot of people and you see what happens and including yourself if you've ever measured or paid attention to this the the guy or the girl that just does one or two exercises in the day pay attention to that day the rest of that day that's right versus the day that you just didn't do anything so let's say that person does that full workout just on saturday because that's the if it's that's fine and then they have a great great workout that day but then pay attention to what monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday looks like activity wise that person a lot more it tends to be a lot more difficult for that person to actively go out and take the walk or choose to do something more physical labor wise versus the person has created this habit of like every day i just do a lift every day i do one or two lifts and that person who does that they tend to do more around the house.

17:08It's easier for them to get up and go take the walk. And so the study doesn't tell us everything because they'll compare those two groups and they'll control all things and they'll say, oh, it doesn't matter. You can do all that volume in one day a week or you can split it out and it's relatively close to the same. So do what you like. But it's not real life. But what I'll tell you, and I'll agree with Sal on this, is that I've seen it not only in my own life, but in through clients, those people that just make a habit, and that's what this is goes back to the two things I've distilled this down to is just giving myself the permission to go do one exercise that's right I can just go do one thing because what I found was after I did that one then I was like more I was more likely to help around the house and clean I was more likely to choose to wash my own cars that are going through the drive through car wash I was more likely to go take that 20 minute walk then sit on the couch and and that starts to add up and compound.

18:03It provokes you to move more. Yes, it does. I'll sell it even more, right? So let's say you're listening to this. You're like, okay, things are busy. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do 15 minutes a day. I'm going to do one or two exercises every day. Here's what it ends up really looking like. Four or five days, because you miss a couple here and there. You got a crazy life, stuff's going on right now. Fine. You did four. Let's say you did four. Let's say over the next three months, you consistently did four 15 minute workouts a week. That equals 60 minutes. Physiologically, four 15 minute workouts spread out over four days is less stressful in the body than one one hour workout.

18:40Same time. One one hour workout produces more stress on the body. But here's the kicker. The one that produces less stress on the body actually gives you better results because of the less stress. Not less stimulation, but lower stress. splitting it up actually produces also better results. And then from a momentum perspective, I don't think it's hard for me to sell this, but if you'd got up and did one exercise a day or two exercises a day, every single day, it's easier to stay consistent than it is to remember to do that one, one hour workout a week. Now, I'm not saying you can't do one, one hour workout a week.

19:16Again, that's perfectly fine, but doing a little every day seems to work much better. And by the way, the data that I'm pulling from, when I say one workout a week will keep your progress, these were college-aged athletes. These were advanced people. The more advanced you become, the harder it is to maintain that level of muscle. So the more muscle you build, the more strength you build, the harder it is to keep when you're at that level. So that study points to one workout once a week, one set more body part. I'll tell you this. I've seen other data that looks at more regular everyday people, and it looks more like one workout every other week.

19:57So where am I going with this? Something is not just better than nothing. It's great. Well, I think it actually provides the discipline to get closer towards your optimal dose, which I think people don't even think like that or consider that. What is moving me the furthest in this pursuit? Because it's adaptation at the end of the day. It's not just healing. That's right. And so you can throw a whole bunch of variables at your body and you can hammer your body all you want. But are you progressing? Are you getting further along towards your goal? And I think, you know, taking it and peeling it all back to, you know, a more simplified approach, you can always build from there.

20:40It's like you can squeeze out more potential. But, like, a lot of times what people find is that, you know, a lot less is actually more beneficial. You know, one of the most challenging parts about this podcast for 10 years is overcoming how loud the noise is in the fitness space. Because the hype, the motivation, the beast mode, the all out, the no days off. It's sexy. And it speaks to a very small percentage of fitness fanatics that are in this massive echo chamber that are all doing shirtless selfies and motivating each other, meanwhile losing 80 % to 90 % of the population who either go, it's not for me, or they try it, get their ass handed to them, realize they can't or they won't do that forever, and then they quit and then they think that that's what you have to do.

21:42If you want to look like that, if you want to be like fit, you got to do all those things. And in reality, it's not. It's much simpler. And there's a lot of – we get from other fitness people a lot of shit for this conversation because it's counter to what everybody else is preaching and saying. It's like, oh, those are the guys, the no-choreo guys are the guys that are always telling people to do less. It's such a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's crazy how many people they are losing that will not step into fitness because they make people believe that it's got to be this crazy sacrifice, this crazy amount of stuff.

22:22And I was guilty of this as a young trainer. I mean, I bought into the hype train and that was our main job. Our main job was just to motivate and hype people up, to keep them motivated to show up to the gym every day and do that hour workout and can get on that cardio machine and sweat it out. And it was just like, man, there is such a better, more appropriate way to do this. And it's actually nowhere near as hard as we make it sound. The hardest part is just being consistent. And just like this whole beginning of this topic is like, how do I make it just not disappear? How is it just always a part of my life?

22:55And part of the way you do that is by not over committing to something ridiculous that 90 % of the people wouldn't sustain. That only 10 % of the population can continue to do. And committing to something that is very realistic. And listen, if you want to end up doing more down the road, say you've been doing the two exercises a day, four days a week. And it's been a year and you don't miss. And you've been consistent. Like, cool. Add 10 more minutes. Do another two exercises and progress and get that extra 10 % you're talking about on the table. But why don't you first prove to yourself that you're the person who does an exercise every day, or at least tries every day, and then gets at least four a week.

23:34And do that consistently and watch the return you get. Well, there's a reason why we have a lot of fitness programs that we sell. And the ones that are the most popular, and I don't mean just the ones that we sell the most, but the ones that people follow most consistently and report the best results on are the 15-minute versions of our programs. We have one right now, MAPS 15 Powerlift. It's a powerlifting program, meaning you're focusing on building strength in the big three plus the overhead press. So the goal is to hit PRs and all those, but it's organized in a way to where it's 15 minutes a day.

24:09These programs, and we have many others, are the ones that people are the most consistent following and we consistently get the best reviews because it's the most appropriate for most people. What do I mean by most appropriate? Gets you the best results. In fact, MAPS 15 Powerlift is 50 % off right now. You can get it at 15powerlift.com. The code is December 50 for that. Also, you can find us on Instagram. We'll see you guys there. It's at Mind Pump Media. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy, and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Super Bundle at mindpumpmedia.com.

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When Life Gets Busy, Your Fitness Should Shrink…Not Disappear!

  • The fallacy of the "all or nothing" mentality. (1:36)

  • Ah-ha moments when it comes to the mentality around doing shorter workouts. (6:22)

  • Three general categories of how you use exercise. (10:18)

  • What the data says about this style of exercise programming. (14:11)

  • Consistency is KEY! (20:48)

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