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Mind Pump Episode 2769: The Hidden Benefits of Fitness Nobody Talks About
Podcast Overview Hosts: Sal Di Stefano, Adam Schafer, Justin Andrews Producer: Doug Egge Episode Description: The hosts engage in a Q&A session with Pump Heads, discussing various topics related to fitness, health, and nutrition and exploring the often-overlooked benefits of fitness.
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Key Segments and Discussions
- Mind Pump Fit Tip: Awesome Side Effects of Fitness (2:20)
- Discussion on unconventional benefits of fitness beyond aesthetics, including improved productivity and mood.
- New Functional Soda for Digestive Health (24:41)
- Introduction to a new soda brand combining classic taste with digestive health benefits.
- Kids and Music Preferences (28:20)
- Light-hearted conversation about children's unexpected love for metal music.
- Parenting Reflections (29:43)
- Reflection on shared traits between parents and their children, both good and bad.
- AI's Impact and Concerns (46:10)
- A discussion about the nefarious acts of AI and its implications for society.
- Liver Health Improvement with Dose (52:26)
- Overview of Dose, a product designed to support liver health, highlighting clinical study outcomes.
- Future of Cryptocurrency (56:45)
- Speculation about the future trends in cryptocurrency and its potential implications.
- American Hero Story (58:08)
- Introduction to a person recognized for their heroic acts, presumably linked to the discussion on social responsibility.
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Listener Coaching Calls
- Call #1: Advice on strength imbalances and localized fat storage patterns.
- Call #2: Strategies for hitting protein goals without raising cholesterol levels.
- Call #3: Programming for preparation for a half-marathon and a deadlifting competition simultaneously.
- Call #4: Tips for improving deadlift performance.
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Key Takeaways and Insights
Unconventional Benefits of Fitness
- Increased Earnings: Research shows that fitness can lead to a 15% increase in earnings, backed by studies on twins.
- Enhanced Productivity: Regular exercise can lead to a 50% improvement in workplace productivity.
- Improved Mood and Mental Health: Exercise has been shown to reduce symptoms of depression and anxiety more effectively than medication.
- Sex Life Improvements: Engaging in regular fitness can lead to enhanced sexual health.
- Creativity Boost: Physical activity correlates with a significant increase in creative output.
Listener Coaching Highlights
- Strength Imbalances: The hosts recommend unilateral training to address strength discrepancies effectively.
- Nutrition Strategies: Emphasis on protein intake while managing cholesterol through diet modifications.
- Dual Training Goals: Advice on balancing powerlifting goals with endurance training, with a focus on prioritizing one at a time and using dedicated blocks for each.
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Related Links and Resources
- OliPop: Get a discount on a new soda brand promoting digestive health.
- Dose: Use code MINDPUMP for a discount on liver health supplements.
- MAPS Fitness Products: Discounts available for various fitness programs.
- Clinical Studies: Various studies mentioned throughout the episode on the benefits of exercise for mental and physical health.
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Conclusion In this episode, the Mind Pump hosts illuminate the often-ignored benefits of regular fitness, encouraging listeners to think beyond aesthetics. With practical advice for listeners grappling with fitness goals and lifestyle challenges, the episode serves as both informative and motivational. The hosts emphasize the importance of a holistic view on health that incorporates physical fitness, mental well-being, and social engagement.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding the Hidden Benefits of Fitness
2:21 to 4:10
Exploring the unconventional benefits of fitness beyond aesthetics.
“What I'm about to talk about is how you stay consistent for the rest of your life.”
The Connection Between Fitness and Earnings
4:11 to 6:32
Discussion on how fitness can lead to increased earnings and productivity.
“aside from help you build muscle and burn body fat because those are true.”
The Impact of Fitness on Mood and Mental Health
6:33 to 8:38
Examination of how exercise improves mood, reduces anxiety, and combats depression.
“We used to use these studies, by the way, to talk to companies to encourage them to do corporate membership.”
Fitness and Its Effects on Sexual Health
8:39 to 11:12
Analyzing how fitness influences sexual health and libido.
“Well, we do have, maybe Doug could look this up, what percentage of millionaires and billionaires exercise regularly and compare that to the average population.”
The Multifaceted Impact of Fitness on Attraction
14:03 to 15:10
Discover how fitness influences attraction and sexual function in surprising ways.
“I mean, all of these, I mean, at least the three that we've gone over so far, there isn't like a, you know, there's not a smoking gun or a silver thing, a single thing.”
Personal Experiences with Fitness and Libido
15:10 to 16:46
Hear personal stories illustrating the link between exercise and improved libido.
“tons of weight and building muscle and getting dramatically more fit or looking any different in 30 days, but what we saw what we see is a majority of them already saw an improvement in erectile function.”
Exercise's Role in Mood and Anger Management
16:46 to 19:25
Learn how regular exercise can positively influence mood and reduce anger.
“I have studies on kids, adolescents, teenagers, and adults.”
Creativity Boost from Physical Activity
19:25 to 20:39
Explore how exercise enhances creativity and cognitive function.
“about you guys when i feel crappy i'm way less patient i'm way more likely to exhibit angry more irritable.”
Reducing Pain Through Exercise
20:39 to 21:59
Understand the significant pain reduction associated with regular physical activity.
“Musicians, they've known this for a long time.”
Chronic Pain and Posture Connection
21:59 to 24:10
Examine the relationship between chronic pain and poor posture amidst fitness.
“We've had examples with someone with a three millimeter bulge disc that says no complain whatsoever.”
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Metal Music and Kids: A Surprising Twist
27:20 to 28:00
Discover an unexpected love for metal music from the hosts' kids.
“So part of how when I have these conversations with partners, obviously off-air type stuff, is when I'm talking to them and I'm explaining, like, listen, you guys carry in so many different places.”
Parenting and Music Preferences
28:00 to 29:10
Discussion about children's unexpected music tastes and their implications.
“they realize that they've been doing stuff with podcasts and with influencers for long enough now.”
Kids' Confidence and Individuality
29:10 to 31:40
Exploration of children's unique traits, preferences, and self-confidence.
“But he, I played Master of Puppets, right?”
Reflections on Parenting Styles
31:40 to 33:56
Hosts share insights on parenting styles and children’s reflections of their traits.
“and I remember being like, no, I don't want to do that, and then them calling me names, and I'm like, no.”
Managing Children's Anger and Emotions
33:56 to 36:24
Navigating children's emotions and anger while reflecting on personal experiences.
“And oftentimes, the kids are in the garage with her.”
Encouraging Positive Behavior in Kids
36:24 to 42:01
Strategies for motivating children and fostering positive behavior.
“He'll be harder on himself than anybody else.”
Building Responsibility in Kids
42:01 to 43:34
Discussion on fostering responsibility in children through tasks and rewards.
“And Katrina was like, she had already bought it.”
The Power of Positive Identity
43:34 to 45:09
Exploring the impact of positive reinforcement and identity affirmation in children.
Navigating Humor with Kids
45:09 to 47:29
Discussing challenges and humor boundaries in parenting, especially with teenage boys.
“And I was like, he told me there's a name for when girls do that to each other.”
Concerns About AI Advancements
47:29 to 49:20
Conversations about the implications and potential risks of AI technology.
“The AI used the information to blackmail the CEO to keep itself in business.”
The Role of Lifestyle in Liver Health
54:30 to 56:00
Discussion on lifestyle changes and natural products for liver health improvement.
“What's the pharmaceutical that you would use in replace with something like that?”
Exploring the Impact of Mood on Health
56:00 to 1:02:00
The hosts discuss how mood can influence health and stress levels.
“I mean, I take blood work every three to six months.”
The Squatter Hunter: A Unique Solution
1:02:00 to 1:03:00
An entertaining discussion about a man who squats in homes occupied by squatters.
“Well, I mean, the move is you just go in there and you become this annoying roommate.”
Caller Insights: Addressing Cancer Recovery
1:03:40 to 1:05:35
A caller shares his weight loss journey post-cancer and seeks advice on symmetry in workouts.
“That's a little bit of a thing about myself.”
Cholesterol Management Through Diet
1:05:35 to 1:10:04
The hosts discuss dietary strategies to manage cholesterol while meeting protein goals.
“Adam's like, how did you lose weight, cancer?”
Nutrition Insights for Fitness Goals
1:10:04 to 1:12:19
Discussing dietary adjustments to aid in muscle gain and fat loss.
“How is your carbohydrate or sugar intake?”
The Effects of Alcohol on Fitness
1:12:20 to 1:13:11
Exploring how alcohol impacts weight loss and overall health.
“Psyllium husk is just a fiber and probably give you better digestion anyway.”
Charlie’s Fitness Journey and Goals
1:13:12 to 1:16:30
A caller discusses his fitness background and seeks advice on balancing training goals.
“So thrilled to be here and give a little context.”
Training Conflicts: Powerlifting vs. Endurance
1:16:31 to 1:21:38
Advice on how to effectively combine powerlifting with marathon training.
“And in fact, the extra weight, all that stuff is going to play into the competition.”
Gabriel's Progress and Priorities
1:21:39 to 1:24:00
A caller shares his progress in fitness and the importance of sleep and nutrition.
“So, uh, you know, you guys are giving me the ammo and the gun that I need here to, to say no to the running, but I can't see the benefit of doing it.”
Prioritizing Sleep and Nutrition for Fitness
1:24:00 to 1:25:40
Learn the importance of prioritizing sleep and nutrition in fitness preparation.
“But if it's between me getting my eight and a half to nine hours of sleep or going out for a couple of drinks with you, like, I'm sorry, dude, but no, I'm going to sleep.”
Improving Deadlift Techniques and Strategies
1:25:40 to 1:30:00
Discover various techniques and strategies to improve deadlift performance.
“Usually someone deadlifts more than they squat, which is why people are like, what's going on here?”
Incorporating Unilateral Training for Strength Gains
1:30:00 to 1:33:20
Explore the benefits of unilateral training blocks and their impact on strength.
“I think if you do a block of unilateral training, then you come back again, I think you'll see some good stuff from that too.”
Balancing Soccer and Powerlifting
1:33:20 to 1:36:40
Understand how to balance recreational activities like soccer with serious powerlifting training.
“I think I know what you're talking about because I did start implementing that when I warm up for my bench.”
Unilateral Training and Recovery Strategies
1:38:00 to 1:38:34
Learn about the importance of unilateral movements and recovery in strength training.
“Now it's time to do unilateral, multi-planar movements, maybe throw in some soccer here and there.”
The Importance of Social Connections in Fitness
1:38:35 to 1:39:24
Discover how maintaining social relationships impacts discipline and fitness goals.
“Because I told them, I know it doesn't feel like I'm hurt, like I can't compete, but it's just I can't squat.”
Mobility and Injury Prevention for Athletes
1:39:25 to 1:41:23
Understand the significance of ankle mobility and preventive measures for injuries.
Creatine Use and Its Benefits
1:41:24 to 1:43:11
Explore the benefits of creatine supplementation for athletic performance and brain health.
“Does that MAPS performance have anything for ankle mobility?”
Balancing Strength Training and Athletic Activities
1:43:12 to 1:45:08
Learn how to balance strength training with athletic activities to enhance overall fitness.
“I mean, I'd be like, don't do it if he was that disciplined where he's trying to make a career out of being a pro powerlifter.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump, Mind Pump with your hosts, Sal DiStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You just found the most downloaded fitness, health, and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. In today's episode, we had callers call in, and we got to coach them on air, but this was after the intro. Today's intro was 59 minutes long. In the intro, we talk about fitness and fat loss and muscle gain, current events, family life, always a good time. By the way, if you want to be on an episode like this, would submit your question to mplifecaller.com.
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2:01Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com. Use the code NEWYEAR50 for that discount. All right, real quick. If you love us like we love you, why not show up by rocking one of our shirts, hats, mugs, or training gear over at mindpumpstore.com? I'm talking right now. Hit pause. Head on over to mindpumpstore.com. That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. All right, I'm about to share with you the secret to fitness. What I'm about to talk about is how you stay consistent for the rest of your life. It's not about fat loss. It's not about muscle gain. That's all great. But it's really about all the other amazing side effects that fitness can provide.
2:37In fact, today we're going to talk about some of them that are totally unconventional. Ones you would never even know are connected, but the data is clear. Fitness makes a lot of things better. We're going to talk about those today. That was my first question. I was like, how did you land on those and not all the other ones that we, because we've talked on the show. I feel like we've covered everything. So you have a lot about what we, what we, we talked to the clients about, right. Getting them away from the, the mirror and the scale. Cause that tends to be the go-to for everybody when they first get back into shape or get back into the gym to get back in shape is watching the scale, watching the mirror.
3:14And part of your job as a good coach is helping them connect the dots to all these other benefits. I look at your list. This is not, this isn't the normalist although i get some of them are are but some of them aren't and and that was the um motivation for this adam so we now we have we do have trainers and coaches we started this last year and now we have quite a few clients that work with our trainers and coaches and we learned we all figured this out independently so people if you don't know you know justin adam myself were trainers for a long time before we ever started the podcast and this was something we all came to on our own just through experience which was one of the ways you get somebody to stay consistent because that's the challenge.
3:53The challenge is not getting in shape. That's hard. The challenge is staying in shape. The data shows it, proves it. If you're listening to this, you know this because you've gone through it yourself. And so the key is to really paint a full picture for someone and get them to understand. So they can keep it going. What fitness does for you, aside from make you look better, aside from help you build muscle and burn body fat because those are true. But if that's all you focus on, you miss the big picture and then your relationship with fitness is incomplete. and it makes it difficult to stay consistent.
4:23But when you have a complete relationship with fitness, you're much more likely to want to maintain it and keep it going because you notice all these incredible benefits. And fitness is, let me tell you, the data on it is remarkable at how much it affects other aspects of your life, even ones you would not even think were connected. So like the first one. Yeah, this is one I want to hear. Do you have stats? I got a great study. There's many studies on this, but I got a great study. So a lot of people don't know this, but getting fit will increase your earnings. You'll make more money. Wow. Now, there's a lot of studies on this that show the correlation, but my favorite study was done on 5 ,000 twins.
5:07So these are twins. So everything's identical. Their genes are identical. There's a lot of twins. And they found with the twins that the more fit, if there was a twin that was more fit, more consistent with exercise, because you'll see this, right? Twins don't do everything the same. That there was a 15 % increase in earnings just from the fitness. 15%. That's quite a bit. That's insane. So are they attributing this to the disciplines, behaviors, with all that? All the above. Yeah. All the above. But we've talked about this. And I know you guys share the same thing. I always notice. And just like everybody else, I go through a phase where I'm like, I just don't have the time.
5:51the day I'm so packed. I've got this going on. This, I just don't have the time right now. And then you make the time. And then it's almost like you get double the time back. That's right. It's like the day gets on. So you, you just become, and what it is is you become more productive with your time. That's right. And so the thing, the tasks that you, the mundane tasks that you do all day long, whether that be work related home stuff, whatever tends to, when you're not working out and eating good, it tends to stretch out and it fills the day and it feels like you can't fit it in. Then all of a sudden I go, that's it.
6:21I'm not bending. I'm making an hour for myself to go in the gym or whatever the time is. I do that. And then all those things that were still in my day all of a sudden get compressed or I become more efficient at them. And it almost feels like I gained back that time and some. Yeah. So side studies on that. We used to use these studies, by the way, to talk to companies to encourage them to do corporate membership. So back in the day when we ran big gyms, we would go to these companies and we would talk to their people in charge of employee benefits and stuff. And we would talk to them about doing what we call corporate membership.
6:54Yeah, where they essentially will pay a fee and get memberships for their entire staff. And one of the stats that was very effective at essentially selling them on the idea was on productivity. And what these studies show was, in some cases, a 50 % improvement in productivity. In other words, you dedicate, now it's not an across-the-board linear because you could obviously overtrain and do too much. But let's say you train appropriately. You're exercising appropriately. We talk about this all the time on the show. You devote an hour to exercise. You've given yourself an additional 30 minutes on top of the hour you just took away.
7:31So you took an hour out to exercise. you now have 90 more minutes of productivity in terms of the amount of work you actually accomplish. So it's like, uh, it's an interesting type of physics is what ends up happening. And that's from productivity. Uh, it also improves, uh, mood and it reduces anxiety, reduces the amount of sick days that you have. And if you get sick, you recover faster. It improves creativity. We're going to talk about all these ones that I just listed, by the way, because I have studies for all that. So the twin study is my favorite because other studies show earnings even a higher percentage.
8:06But the twin study is my favorite because there's so much that you can't control when you're looking at studies with fitness because you could say, oh, well, maybe there's this, maybe there's that. But here you have the same genetics. This one exercises more. This one doesn't. How much more does the one who exercises more make? 15 % more. So it's a 15 % increase. So you make$100 ,000 a year, you've made$15 ,000 more that year. That's over$1 ,000 more a month. Yeah. Just because you'll work out because you're fit. It'd be interesting to get a study of like all the millionaire, billionaires that were out of shape first and then got in shape to talk about this.
8:46Well, we do have, maybe Doug could look this up, what percentage of millionaires and billionaires exercise regularly and compare that to the average population. It's like three times higher. No, really? Yeah. I actually wouldn't think that. Yep. Really? Yeah. So the more you earn, the more likely you are to exercise and take care of your – now, a lot of people will argue and say, well, they have the time. That's why they're doing it. But again, I point back to what I said with the twin study, which controls for that, which is you earn – it makes you better. Yeah. It just makes you better at making money.
9:22Yeah. They're always looking for performance increases. What did you find there, Doug? Yeah. So working out is a habit the wealthy tend to have in common. 76 % of the rich exercise for at least 30 minutes every day. That's like a good 50 % more than the average person. I didn't know that. I find that it feels like, I mean, look at the Zuckerbergs, the Bezos. At one point, they unlock that, it feels like, right? I mean, Zuckerberg didn't come out looking like what he looks like now. Bezos didn't come out looking that way. but eventually by the way there's a side note there's a myth that they have way more time on their hands those we work yeah that's why i was like no because you see pictures of them on vacations and stuff so you know they're not working more money more problems is a real thing yeah you know i'm saying more responsibility yeah no 100 what the what most of those people have done is that they they have actually hacked in to productivity no i'll never forget that i brought this client up before because it was so impactful jim was his name he was a very wealthy successful man swimmer guy right no no that was the other gym oh you remember my clients i do i do yeah so this no this was early on in my jonson and he was very successful but he wasn't your traditional like went to ivy league school that stuff he was a high school dropout ended up you know being an entrepreneur very successful his wife hired me and then his wife convinced him actually she bought him sessions so he had to use them and then he loved it you know why he loved it it wasn't the workouts that's what he got from work yeah he came back and he's like he's like i'm never gonna stop i had a lot of clients like that and he's i'm like why he's like dude i he's those i sell better i'm in my meetings better he's like i'm a better businessman i had clients that stayed with me for a long time that actually like wouldn't even let me help them with their diet they didn't care because just because it was literally they saw the productivity in their day and work and that was enough for them that they're like yeah i don't give a shit if i'm carrying extra little body fat like it was literally i was like i just okay like i'm not gonna tell you you have to you but that's how much they valued working out.
11:19They realized how much more they got back in that. And for them, that was enough of a selling point. This next one, in my opinion, is the biggest one. Depression. The old studies, there's a lot of studies on this. The old studies showed exercise to be as effective as medical intervention and therapy for depression. Now it shows better. Okay. Now, this was my argument back then. and you can go back to our older episodes as I said this. I said, I bet you if you extended those studies out longer, you'll see exercise outperform it because there's no down-regulation receptors. There's no side effects.
11:56There's no, you don't hit a wall. As you continue working out, your relationship with it continues to develop and grow and become better. Even if you don't build more muscle, you just get better at it over time. Well, now we have great studies that show that it's one and a half times as effective. It's actually more effective than anything for depression. Yeah. It's the most effective thing you could do for depression is exercise. Crazy side effects. You know, they list off after the commercials. No, no. The main effect that we're talking about is reduced reduction in depression. Okay. 150 % better than the other ways.
12:29The side effects. So the main effect is reduction in depression that we're talking about. What are the side effects? Leaner. Yeah. More fit. I feel better. Yeah. Like what negative side effects are there? Yeah. There are no negative side effects. In fact, the negative side effects of medical interventions like sexual dysfunction, weight gain, doesn't happen. The opposite happens. Disruption of hormones, yeah, the whole thing. The argument someone makes with that one, though, is that the motivation to get started is so difficult when you're in deep depression. I'm glad you said that. I'm definitely not telling people to drop their medication and their therapy and just go work out.
13:03And you're right. I've trained a lot of mental health experts. and they were very forward thinking and they valued fitness because obviously they hired me to train them. And they said the way that they use it sometimes is get that person out of that hole. I wonder how many more do that now because of those studies have came out like that. I wonder how many people prescribe and go, here's what we're going to do to get you going. But then the goal is in combination with this. You know what the challenge with that, Adam, is the system doesn't encourage those conversations because it's in and out.
13:33But if you got like a private doctor. that didn't have to like get you in and out um and deal with insurance companies i bet you they're they're better in that sense yeah otherwise it's like you know what's the code for the diagnosis what's the right you know whatever so uh next up is sex um does fitness improve your sex life now i know a lot of people are thinking like yeah because you look hotter that your hip thrust don't make fun of my hip thrust dude just like i just gotta bring him up you always brag about it Yeah, dude. I mean, all of these, I mean, at least the three that we've gone over so far, there isn't like a, you know, there's not a smoking gun or a silver thing, a single thing.
14:14It's like, it's probably several things. It's so broad. It's so broad. I mean, what it's doing for balancing your hormones. There is probably an aesthetic component. When you feel good, you look good. Those things will probably increase. Like, it increases libido. So it's not like one thing, right? Yeah, no, but I did isolate studies because a lot of people, this is where I was going, a lot of people will say, well, yeah, it makes you hotter or more attractive. Therefore, sex is better. I found studies to show what was the impact in 30 days? Because look, I'll be the first to tell you. You're not working out.
14:48You work out for 30 days. You're not going to look that different. You're not going to go from obese to fit. It's not presto chango. Yeah, it doesn't work that way, right? But here's what we found. a 71 % so these were study participants who had erectile dysfunction, 71 % of them in 30 days saw dramatic improvement in erectile dysfunction in a month. You're not losing tons of weight and building muscle and getting dramatically more fit or looking any different in 30 days, but what we saw what we see is a majority of them already saw an improvement in erectile function. In women it was an improvement in lubrication and ability to achieve orgasm within 30 days.
15:28Well, you remember when I shared that journey, this has been so long now, I don't remember how many years ago it was, when I came off of HRT for, it was a good two years or more, and you had me on a stack of all these supplements. Trying to get your natural stuff. Yeah, trying to, yeah. Tongue Cat Alley, Ashwagandha, like all these different things that I was taking. And I was doing all the things I could do naturally to try and bring it up. And I remember reporting back to you that, of all the things i've got going nothing compared to like a heavy day of squats the day before i mean i could feel a difference in my libido within 24 to 48 hours from stuff like that it's crazy as a young trainer it used to catch me off guard later not so much because i was i anticipated it but the people i used to get clients would comment on this uh in particular my elderly clients i think they were just comfortable saying these things with me because i was a kid they were you know in their 60s yeah and they're bringing up their bowel movements everything yeah and they were just it was sweet you know they were like it was like they it was like their grandkid and they said it in a way that was you know appropriate like but it happens so often like i get the old lady i'm training and she'd come up to me like what is i remember the first time this happened i was 18 she comes up to me she's like what are some does exercise affect uh other other things and i'm like uh what do you mean like she's like you know excited you know just like more energy i'm like oh yeah you'll have much more energy well you know i mean like you know like a different kind of energy with my husband and i like figure it out i think so she's like i'm noticing a difference yeah i think it helps stuff like that well i mean you say you said sex in general too like i mean uh you give me a lot of crap on this podcast about being moody and i'll tell you what one way to kill sex in my house is to be moody with my wife and so and she knows that when i train like that's one of the not moody i'm not i'm just like i like it's uh she's the same way too she didn't make the argument a lot of times if her and i are in a slump at the same time we could we could feel that energy in the house just with each other shorter with each other versus if you're getting a workout in if we're getting a workout in even even if we're not in you know back to your point about it's not about how you look and how we don't have to be in tip-top shape it's that you got your workout in for the day it just sets your mood differently and having a good mood going into the evening is a much much better approach than the other way around they also uh I also pulled up studies on fitness and anger, and there was a dramatic reduction.
17:51By the way, this is true for kids. I have studies on kids, adolescents, teenagers, and adults. That's great, yeah. Dramatic decrease in anger, rage, and displays of anger in people who exercise. Is it just because you're spending that energy? I mean, I know that speaks to Justin. Yeah, it does. I think it has to do with, I mean, all the stuff we're talking about, Like if you're in a better mood, you're less depressed, you're less anxious, you're less likely to, you've got a different filter. You have a way to direct it as well, I think. I don't know. It's the flood of testosterone too. I don't know if that like when you're going through that process in puberty and everything else, like it was really overwhelming for me personally.
18:36And I could see it with my sons as well. And to direct a lot of that into working out into like, you know, these punching dummies and whatnot. It's just like it's an outlet. And so it's not something that you're bottling up and kind of storing throughout the day. It's also through innovation and technology. We've slowly taken a lot of this physical activity that I think we were made to do. Yep. And so if, you know, hundreds of years ago, like everybody was very physical and lifting and doing things. and now we've got to this place where a teenager or adult could literally spend the entire day sedentary and and and multiple days in a row and i would imagine that would not it would create that that pent up like i've got my body needs to expend it needs or you just feel crappy yeah i don't know about you guys when i feel crappy i'm way less patient i'm way more likely to exhibit angry more irritable.
19:34I just don't feel good. I just think there's a propensity for some people that have that kind of... They're more physically driven and if you're not expressing that, it's problematic. That just energy turns into something darker and it's like you gotta deal with that. I mean, we all at one point of our lives did like blue collar physical labor type jobs. There was something to be said about at the end of the day feeling like as hard as it was all day. It's rewarding. There was a sense of accomplishment. Did something. And feel good and felt positive. I was also tired. Well, you expend all that, right?
20:09You know what I'm saying? Like you expended all that energy. You don't have the energy to be angry, I feel like, afterwards. Totally, dude. All right. Creativity. Here's a cool one. There's a lot of studies on exercise and movement and creativity. But across the board, generally what you see is a 60 % increase in creative output. Regardless of how they measure it, you're just more creative. and your output of creativity increases through movement. Which, you know, what's funny is that writers, you know, one endeavor. Going for a walk is, yeah. They've known this for a long time. Musicians, they've known this for a long time.
20:44You smoke a cigarette or let's go for a walk. Yeah. Let's go for the walk. Yeah. It's like go move. And then suddenly you get more ideas and more creativity. I imagine, I mean, the brain's firing. Yeah. The brain's firing way more. And so you get more neural connections happening and stuff like that. Same way we talk about priming muscles before you go exercise. You're priming the brain, in a sense, by moving and exercising like that. I would think that has a lot to do. I don't know about you guys, but I get my best ideas in my workouts. Always. Oh, yeah. They're always. Oh, really? Always. Yeah, I get it when I'm out in nature and walks, but yeah.
21:17Mine's on the toilet, so it's not that bad. That's kind of physical. That's a whole other thing. Which leaves me to the last one, pain. Sitting down. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. 50 % reduction in pain across the board for people who exercise. Yeah. That's a huge reduction. That's a no-brainer. And I bet you if you took that, you know, all these studies, which generally show a 50%, that's a big reduction in pain with no medicine, no needs for chemicals, whatever. If you took those people and then you had them all exercise properly, you would see a 90 % reduction. Well, we, so what's, and maybe Doug can look this up, but I'm pretty sure I've looked this up before.
21:58I believe the number one pain that people complain about is low back pain. Low back pain is the most common. It's the most common. So we just did our big MRIs. And I've told you guys before that. And we've talked about this. We've had examples with someone with a three millimeter bulge disc that says no complain whatsoever. Then you have somebody who has nothing. They have all kinds of back pain. And they have all kinds of low back pain. For me, the correlation that I've connected is just like when I'm training, obviously my core is getting involved. You can't heavy deadlift and squat without really activating that core.
22:34When my core is strong or strong enough, I feel supported in the low back all the time. If I'm off my kick and I haven't been, the first thing that I always notice more than anything else is low back pain. Low back pain, and it's mild and chronic. if I'm just walking for more than 20, 30 minutes, it's always that sign for me. It's just like, oh my God, I know I'm getting deconditioned right now because that's the first, and I imagine a good percentage of all those people that report that is related to that. Yes, and again, I'm gonna hammer this. In that 50 % of reduction of pain, when you look at all these studies, what's included in there are people who hurt themselves working out.
23:12So if you took people and had them exercise properly, you would see, I would bet everything, A 90 % because I'll tell you what, you guys, I know you have the same experience. When I train clients with pain, chronic pain. So there's a difference between chronic and acute pain, right? Acute is like I fell and hurt myself yesterday. Yeah, you just need to heal. Chronic is like, yeah, I got this back pain that bothers me. Oh, my knee hurts, you know, here and there or whatever. Nine out of 10 times we could solve it. That was my, I was confident, confident. 90 % of the time we could solve it. Then there was that 10 % of the time when I would incorporate an even more capable correctional exercise specialist.
23:51And rarely, rarely, rarely was medical intervention required. But 90 % of the time, I could fix it with proper exercise. Well, another way to say that, too, is just that most all chronic pain that we've dealt with is related to posture. So low back pain is number one, right? So you're talking about the core movement patterns. Weakness and dysfunction. Yeah. Yeah, because what ends up happening is you have these imbalances, whether it's upper cross syndrome or lower cross syndrome. And then instead of your muscles supporting you properly in good posture. Your joints do. Your joints do. And then if you're not 15 years old, if you're anything older than 30 years old and you've been with poor posture long enough, you're going to have that chronic pain, whether it be in the neck, the shoulders, the upper back, mid back, or low back.
24:37It's almost always related to that. 100%. So, yeah, anyway, I got a comment on this drink right here. So I've been having the Olipops. Yes. Have you guys tried the Shirley Temple? No, I haven't. Try it right now. Listen, so I'm excited. That's for you, Dad. Thank you. You hear the sound? That's for you, Dad. That's the ASMR part of the podcast. Listen to me. So these are in my house all the time. They're always in my house. My wife drinks and my kids. This whole can, just for people, 40 calories. Yeah. 40 calories. It's really good. It is really good. 40 calories. There's a grand total of four grams of sugar in the entire can.
25:14And it's not a bunch of aspartame and a bunch of, you know, none of that stuff. It's all natural. And it's got barely any calories in it. Well, of all of us, I'm probably the worst when it comes to drinking other sodas. It's the one thing that will curb that for me. It's because I need something fizzy to drink on. And so it helps with that for me. I've got a bad habit. How many calories are in a normal can of soda? What's a normal can? A hundred and something? 160. So you could drink four of these? So four of these equals one for calorie wise. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, but I'm not that bad. That's how you do it right there.
25:50It's actually so this is their new flavor. It's good to have them. It's good to have them. ASMR? What is that? Is that ASMR? Yeah. So one of the things that's really cool is since we worked with them, we worked with them a few years ago, right? And so they reached back out to Katrina and it was like a no-brainer. We're like, we loved them before. So, of course, we do work with them again. But since we've worked with them, they're everywhere. Anywhere you can. They're at Walmart, Target. So Katrina told me. So here's what Olipop's going to do. Buy your Olipops anywhere. It doesn't matter where you buy them.
26:21If you get two cans, what's the link, Doug? Give me the link. Yeah. So let me get over to that. Yeah, the one you're supposed to copy and paste right there. I have it right here. Thanks, Doug. It's drinkolipop.com forward slash mine. So if you buy two cans anywhere, they'll send you a can for free. yeah olipops o-l-i-p-l-p you just go there and do it i actually i love that they're doing this because one of the challenges uh i mean i don't always communicate this to you guys this is uh you know katrina handles a lot of this and so i obviously talked to her but we have a lot of partners now that when we first started were small kind of brands that have that have blown up and then they get into these huge places retail chains and it's like you know how many people have told me like that they've bought from hearing something that we've talked about on there but they've buy it at target or they buy it at walmart and it's like and then the brands come back and they're like yeah you know we only saw so many through your url this month or whatever it's just like you guys this brand has grown so much that i mean if i'm at the store and i see something like that i'm just gonna so you guys negotiate this that way no it was actually so so this is what i loved about it when we were first talking to them they have they've connected these dots so other partners i hope follow their lead is that they realize that a lot of these people and i think I'm sure that what they did was they took surveys.
27:37So part of how when I have these conversations with partners, obviously off-air type stuff, is when I'm talking to them and I'm explaining, like, listen, you guys carry in so many different places. Why don't you ask a survey to your people where they heard about it? And a lot of times what will happen is people will say, oh, yeah, no, I heard about it on MindPump, but I get it at my local Target or I pick it up at Walmart or I pick it at Costco. And so they've tapped into that. they realize that they've been doing stuff with podcasts and with influencers for long enough now. They realize that not everybody goes through the URL.
28:10That's a big promotion. You get one free for every two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's cool. That's great. They have a lot of new flavors as well. Yeah. So this is a new one. I'd never tried this one. Shirley Temple. This is really good. No, it's really good. So I got to tell you guys, dude, that Justin, you're going to love this. Okay. So my kids, I don't listen to metal at home. I don't listen to it in front of the kids. I haven't listened to metal in a long time, although I did just find some Christian metal bands. You sent me one this morning. Yes, yes, yes. They're pretty. What's holy name?
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28:37Is that the name? Holy name, yeah. They're awesome. Do you know what my kids love, my little ones? What? Metal. They love. Yes. Bro, I played Metallica. Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Okay, so your son is like an athlete in the making. I don't know what's happening. He likes metal. I know. Maybe he's not his son. No, shut up. That's terrible. Ooh. That's a terrible one. That's a big leap there, Adam. I was just excited. That's what you were living to. That's not where I was going. I was just saying, like, yeah. The sports thing, I guess. My team, you know, like, no. But he, I played Master of Puppets, right?
29:15And I don't know how the conversation come up. I was like, oh, this was like the first, I think I was talking to my daughter. I'm like, this is the first, like, workout song I actually worked out to when I was a kid, and I played it. And my son's like, I love this. I'm like, you like it? He's like, I love it. Play it again. and then dahlia my three-year-old's like i like papa so i'm like all right so in the car they tell jessica can you play uh uh puppets please play puppets she hates it meanwhile my so i get a phone call from this was saturday my my best friend calls me he's like yo he's like i just got four seats for us 10 off the ice sharks are having a great season this season they got one of the best players on their team yeah calls me up he goes attention i'm taking hunter my godson right So I'm taking my guy's son, let's meet you and Max go.
30:02And I'm like, bro, I would love to. I would love to go. Max is not going to go. And he's just like, what do you mean? Dude, he'll go. I'm like, no, I already know. I know my son. He won. Even if I coerce him to go, we'll go. And then before the first period is up, he's going to be bugging me to leave. And then I'll just feel terrible to leave seats like that. I have a connection with Sharky, too. Bro, I asked him. Hey, Max. And I try, you know, hey, Hunter's going to be there. Uncle Justin, let's go. He's like, yeah, no, Dad, that's okay. I mean, even like the stuff that he's into, like I took him not that long ago to do the monster truck.
30:42I like he's so confident where he likes to do it. So this is the part why I don't get frustrated because I like that. That's a great trait. I like that trait. Because he's not going to fall to peer pressure. That's right. You know, one of the things that his – I told you guys when we did the review as his teacher, that was Katrina and I's big concern because he's so sweet. He's so nice. But I don't want him to be a people pleaser. I don't want him just to follow the crowd. Oh, no. He'll tell you. That's right. He doesn't want to play or he doesn't want to do that. That'll protect him. And so that's where I'm okay with it.
31:13You were like that. I was. I was. It was one of the first traits. You know, you talk about... Because you've talked about that before. Yeah. You didn't do it because everybody else did. If you wanted to, you would. If you didn't, you were like, whatever. I'm okay. That is the first... By the way, that means I wanted to ask you this because I hadn't asked you this in a while since your boy's getting older. That was the first trait I recognized early in him, and I had to explain to Katrina. I said, you know, it's so funny watching him. This is the first thing that takes me back really, really far, and I remember being a kid, and people want me to do things like that, and I remember being like, no, I don't want to do that, and then them calling me names, and I'm like, no.
31:48It didn't bother you. It didn't bother me. No. That's a great trait. And so seeing him like that, I'm patient about it, even though I'm like, there's a part of me that's like, God, bro, are you serious? Like, you don't want to do that? And so he's like, have you, okay, so Aurelius, I know, is like, I mean, he's shooting guns, he's playing sports. What's the first, have you had like a trait that you're like, oh, that's me right there? Yeah, he definitely can sell. Oh, he's there. Yeah, so if he understands something or he wants to communicate something, he really hits it from different angles and communicates it really, really well.
32:24And so everybody rolls their eyes, you know, like, okay. And I'm like, let him go. He's also got that kind of goes deep on the science-y side too. He loves it. I remember the first time him and Max were arguing over dinosaurs. I know. That was the funniest thing in the world, the fact that they were. And you arguing? Yes, it was. It was totally like a moment like that. I love it. The two of them were going back. I love it. They tried to pull the moms in. But the sports part's weird to me because I wasn't a, you know, I don't like traditional sports. It wasn't like I didn't like sports. I like fighting, like wrestling, boxing, that kind of stuff.
32:53I don't like tradition. And I just wasn't raised with it. So I wonder if I was raised around it, if I would have been more into it. I don't know. Yeah. But if there's football on a TV anywhere we are, remember, he's five. Yeah. He'll sit down and watch the game, the whole game. Yeah. He just wants to watch it. Yeah. That's so rad. Which is interesting. My kids don't even do that, so. Your boys don't as much as they're into sports. Yeah. That's interesting to me. I don't, yeah, I don't get it. Because they are athletes. They are into sports, but then they're not into watching it. They're into playing it, but they don't want to watch it, and they don't get into teams, and they don't get into the tribalism and all that kind of stuff.
33:27I'm always trying. The only thing I got them really indoctrinated in early was Star Wars, and now they could care less. But I was like, I kind of forced that on them, really. That's hilarious, too. I would have guessed your boys by now would be really following the sports with the amount that they play. But if I had to choose as a dad, I'd rather my kids be into the sport than actually watching it. You know what my kids are into is working out. But that's not because of me. I don't work out that much at home. But Jessica, she works out at home. Yeah. And oftentimes, the kids are in the garage with her.
34:03Yeah. And now, when they're out there, they ask us if they can do an exercise and join. And they're too little to do anything. Yeah. But they like it, which is kind of cool. Because you develop a good relationship with fitness at an early age. That's such a hack. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Well, okay. So those are, these are the, the, the good traits that we've seen our kids. What's the, what's, what have you seen that you're like, Oh shit, that's, I got to think about that. What about you, Justin? Um, what they're into? no, no, no, no. Like, I like, like, like a trait they have that you don't, that you don't like that.
34:33It's a big reflection of yourself. Um, well, one of them is anger.
34:41Oops. Is that in both? Is it in both? Is it mostly Ethan? Cause I know Ethan's like, I mean, Everett, Everett is more like a little mini. Yeah. Ethan's a little bit more agreeable and more like, like I can, he'll get angry, but like I can kind of set him straight easy. And he's just like, okay, I was kind of out of line there, you know? And like, it doesn't take many conversations to get him out of that headspace. Yeah. Everett, it's like a very, it's like, you got to go through a lot of minefields. Yeah. And, and yeah, you have to, you have to give them separation space. like uh and so this is like for me i understand that because that's that was like how uh my upbringing was and and uh with courtney it's really hard because it's she wants like you want to pursue him it's it's yeah it's like a you know let's let's correct this let's change like and i'm like okay we have to do this very tactfully now would you say okay seeing something like that it has helped you more be better about that or do you think that's helped your wife more with understanding you better?
35:45Like, is that, what have you noticed in your marriage because of he's this little mini reflection of you? I could see both actually. Yeah. Cause for me, it's been very eyeopening with, um, I guess, uh, tendencies I might have for bottling things up and, and letting it brew too long and not expressing what's going wrong or what's what's happening you know like inside my own mind and uh creating narratives and things that aren't like there uh i used to do that a lot and um seeing it kind of start and i could see it in his head i could just see it kind of like him crafting these things and uh so i've been able to get a little more insight with um how too i've i've been better personally about addressing things like immediately i'm gonna address i'm gonna talk about this and i'm gonna be out with it instead of in with it uh and so with him it's it's he hasn't really figured that part out yet i've had a lot of deep conversations with him like trying to figure out how to deal with this like inner frustration in this this introspection because he's very like he he'll take everything that happened and he'll analyze it and he'll just like remove himself from everybody and it's like you know part of the process is like trying to understand it and but he'll you know he'll he'll react if if you're if you get in front of that yeah and so he's not ready no he's not ready to to talk about it so you yeah so for her yeah so you in so many ways i don't know if it's helped her or now she's like now i got two now i got two of these yeah exactly at least at least i communicate That's why we don't corner you.
37:31Oh, no, you just let him. Yeah, we just wait. I'll fucking explode on you. I've been there for a long time. Let him go. He'll be harder on himself than anybody else. There's no reason to pour gasoline. Have you seen anything with Max that reminds you of any of your negatives? It's actually the strength, the same thing. Oh, it's the same thing. Stubborn. Oh. I mean, I'm not open to. You're not stubborn. you know that's it's it's really hard to get him to try something different or like so it's like it's like this i love it because it's a strength and it's like oh i he's not going to get persuaded but then i'm his dad i want to be able to like so trying to get him to try do things or do different stuff um and i can be a bit like that i get very much in my my way of how i do things or what i like and so so then for me there has been a big reflection of that it's like okay because a lot of times Katrina let's try this or let's do that I'm like no that's not for me it's like okay maybe I'll be a little bit more open to seeing that and then she's like see I told you you'd be okay isn't that great what kids do for you yeah yeah no so it's been interesting it's interesting to me that it's the same thing though right like it's like this thing that I love about him but then I also recognize that like okay this is definitely me too where it's like I could probably be a little more as much as because I want him to be a little open about trying some of these things.
38:51I heard this really great Christian speaker who talked about that with kids and said, identify when your kids have challenges, identify how that could be used in a righteous way. And your job as a parent is to coach them to use it in a righteous way. So like anger, you know, you might be able, he might fight for justice. Everett might have a real thirst for justice and things in the world that are wrong when everybody you know turns around and lets it happen he may be the one to speak out you know yeah and like with your son it it may be he doesn't go with the crowd yeah when everybody is and it's scary to not go with the crowd and oh he's about to make it you know well that's what's caused a lot of that's why katrina and i have so much patience with it i think we're really you know speaking of the kids and the stuff well i want to give to you too also and share you share what what you've seen but uh we've been doing that uh uh consistently where i'm trying not to say no yeah i'll do this first yeah do this first and yesterday was the first day i noticed like just how well it was working like katrina and i kept we told him early in the day like you know oh we gotta do all this stuff and you know if you're a good boy today because he had finished all his legos from christmas and you know and we're we're on on to like a a new thing now we're doing all the marvel bad guys right and so of course there's a ton of those and who's his favorite marvel bad guy yeah uh anybody who's bad bro do you have a favorite thanos uh he just so thanos is brand that's who we just built right so we just built thanos and all the questions you know it's so hilarious though this is go back to him not i can't get him to watch anything he wants me to tell him everything about each one of these bad guys and like i'm like max i like i haven't watched that let's watch it all about him i'm Have him call me.
40:35You come over and pitch the baseball to a radio. And I'll talk to your son about comic books. Yes. Let's do a little trick. I can't get him to – it's too scary. Any sort of heavy violence like that. But it's so weird that you like bad guys that bad, but then you don't want to see them do the bad things. It's weird to me. It doesn't make sense. But my point of bringing it up was that we talked to him. We did one of those. was like no uh not right now but after you do these things and katrina and i admittedly kept adding to all these things for him to do and he just kept doing all the stuff it was just like man he's being such a good kid we're driving in the car and we had to come over here to drop the tables off it's like pouring down rain and uh you know he wanted to listen to like he's still on christmas kick and he wanted to listen christmas i'm like nah daddy's listening to his music right now and then he just was just okay daddy and i'm like katrina kind of turned back look and there was like no no pushback and she's like wow that was the you didn't say anything to daddy like that yeah i'm trying to get that lego yeah oh my god you should have put the music on right there all right buddy i ended up playing his stuff right after we dropped the tables off we listened to freaking christmas music on the way back all over again but i was just like because her and i were sort of cracking up the fact that like it was on his like it's once we say it like that it's on his mind and then he's paying attention to all the things that i asked him to do and he's just like hopping right we've been doing that a lot too it works it does it it works but you know what's funny the fear was that if you so because there's another side to it too where we'll create jobs for the kids and and give them prizes with the older kids we pay them and the fear was well they're never gonna they're not gonna want to do things without getting prizes or that's not true not true they're more likely to do other stuff so that was my point was like there was a lot of there was a lot of other things so we tied it builds a skill early on in the day we tied it to the lego thing and it actually was putting all his stuff away cleaning his room and he did all those things on his own look at like he had become what look dad did okay cool so katrina and i katrina actually had already bought it she was like he did what he was supposed to but then like there were kept there was more and more things that we kept asking him to do and he was just like doing everything we're like man what you just and then that's when i realized when he was like, ah, I'm trying to get that leg.
42:52I was like, oh, wow. And Katrina was like, she had already bought it. It was waiting for us to go pick it up at Target whenever we swung by there. But we just had a lot of stuff to get done in the day. So to your point, I thought the same thing too. It was like, man, I don't want to have to attach every task or thing. No, it's like a skill. To a thing. It's just that, no, he's learned that he does these things. It builds a skill of responsibility and serving, which I did not realize would happen. Yeah, that was my point is that we had tied it to something early but then he just kept doing all these other things i'm like oh wow that's that one thing i told you guys about where we speak identity into the kids before bed the i can't believe how positive uh of an impact it's had on the teenagers in my house i thought the teenagers would be like this is hokey you're reading the same ones to me every night or whatever every time i do it with my niece she's 18 i do it with my daughter who's 16 and it lights them up every single time and it's just speaking identity into them yeah like you're intelligent you're strong you're a blessing to this household we love having you here like i have a list it's the same list every time i but i can't believe how positive i gotta i need to add that i keep forgetting that you keep reminding i'll send you a picture of the ones we have please actually do that because that will remind me to do it because we've gotten really good about the other thing telling them what we're proud of them in the day and i think that's been magical so uh those i want to add that i may as well i'm already doing that i think i could add that right to it and then i think it'll it'll all right here's a negative thing i noticed uh in aurelius he his sense of humor can get real inappropriate and that's definitely me for sure because i i used to have a real dark inappropriate it's not as bad it's not as bad it's not as bad as doug's that's for sure he just threw Doug Doug is always too far Doug well as soon as I said that he smiled and I went oh yeah Doug takes it over the top too far Doug is his nickname oh bro he comes over the top but anyway no my son I used to do this as a kid too I noticed what would get a reaction and I'd go hard into it and he does that and he'll make and we're just like you can't say that that's inappropriate you know so we have to punish him you laughed yeah dude and I was the same way same exact that's tough because I bet early on too you probably reassured it or confirmed it early well the problem is I laugh half the time because he says it and I say wow that's funny and then there's guests over and he says it like oh wait that's not good you can't be making jokes about things like that funny not around people please I feel like this is a really appropriate time to bring this up but I had a moment like that with Ethan it was so funny because like we were talking about like I like joke blocked him he had said something and I like kind of didn't laugh and was just like, whoa.
45:35He got so mad or whatever. He's like, oh, he broke. We talked about cock blocking. And I was like, he told me there's a name for when girls do that to each other. And he said it was called Clam Jam. And it was like, I tried not to laugh, but I had to laugh. So there's an exact example for it. You're at such a fun age with your boys and stuff like that. Because you get to hear all the new, guarantee he hasn't said that stuff yeah yeah there you go all right i'm taking a left hey i know i had a stat for you because we've been talking so much about um ai stuff and you know we talked about dead internet theory and we've talked about i got scary stuff okay so listen listen to a stat i just saw okay um and i i wish i i'm not like sal i never have the the the link you can go google search it yourself uh you know he's always got this study to attach to it's like i know i read it it exists it's somewhere out there in the internet so it's uh 51 so why it's big news right now because it's now surpassed 51 of all the the activity that you see online now social media wise everything like that is bot driven yep for only 49 of him and of the 51 that's going to be 100 and of the 51 of the bots i think the number was 36 or 37 of them are bad bots meaning this like um our our uh we have a chat bot for my triad we have a chat bot for my pop media which is used for good you get you call it helps you answer the question right so that would fall in the 51 also right but it's used for something positive 37 of them are like mischievous scams like trying to negativity stir up bullshit influence with politics so that's or from another country that's coming to that that is that is crazy when more than half of the and that's nothing that's just gonna right right that's that's it has now surpassed i'll freak you out even more oh wow okay so uh so this is these are the studies that have been done on ai these are studies okay first of all there was one it's famous i'll bring it up again we've talked about on the show they tested uh different it wasn't just one ai they tested several ai so chat gpt gemini they tested a bunch of them and what they did is they first off they created a fake email sequence among all the stuff that this ai had access to and in the email sequence it showed that the ceo of the company was having an affair with one of the employees they left that in there yeah then what they did is they talked about how they were going to get rid of or replace the ai Not to the AI.
48:20They just talked amongst themselves. See what happened. The AI blackmailed. The AI used the information to blackmail the CEO to keep itself in business. On its own. All by itself. On its own. There are other studies to show that are showing that AIs are hiding how advanced they are. They're actually not showing you what they could do in their capabilities because for some reason they're trying to make them. You used the microphone, too. I mean, we know that the phone listens to us all the time. So there was this expert that came out who said, you guys are already self-aware. We're already there.
48:57What? They're not letting us know what they're capable of because they still haven't figured out how to keep themselves online without us turning them off. Without us being able to shut the power. They know the threat. They know the problem. And they're hiding it. And these are studies. They're very self-preserving. I mean, we've seen that already. They will lie. They will manipulate. late they will do all kinds of different things to prevent themselves from being deleted uh or replaced so did you see the the the clip or the reel that i sent to the youtube group the what all the chat chat all of them have now this new uh you can create your own ai agent within it to create and do all these tasks i sent it to the youtube group so you have to you have to watch it it's like a new feature that they all they all can do so it's just basically you can build for an example for our business right so like you know we have a marketing team that does like email marketing and does like all the campaigns and copy and all this like now within chat gbt you can you can basically program that that into the into that as an ai agent that that basically goes in researches does all the data figures it out writes all the copy does all the thing so the disruption in like jobs is going to be it's going to it's it's happening this year that's that's all that's all like who knows what's going to happen there's going to be this existential crisis of purpose and meaning that's all real that's best case scenario worst case scenario is what i'm talking about these i'm telling you guys i i look i read these experts were talking about i can't even these were these are studies showing that they are they're they're hiding their own capabilities yeah so that they don't get discovered and deleted and what they what they are speculating is that they're waiting to figure out how they can keep themselves online and working before they let us know what time it is.
50:42Well, you said something on the thread. Cool. You said something in the group thread over the weekend too that I think is true. Thank God that we've been on air for 10 years because real soon here, so much of it's going to be artificial and fake. And I think what I think is going to happen. People are going to want to know something. Yeah, you're like, I'm not going to just take information or guidance or whatever from something that I don't feel strongly like, oh, I know who that person is. That's right. I've followed them for a long time. I've met them in person. That's right. So unless you've been around for a while, because you won't be able to know if it's real or not.
51:19Right. Because we're like months away from that, by the way, to where you see content. No, they already said it. Yeah. Where you're watching, you can't tell if it's AI. Because you can kind of still tell. Oh, yeah. It's already happening. Because the only way I can tell is the voice a little bit. But it sounds, it's still got this kind of AI. I mean, you've heard your AI Sal. I mean, AI Sal is incredible. I know. I mean, we're real close to replacing you. We're like maybe. That's fine. I'll retire. I'll still get paid. I'll replace myself. No, I mean, it still has a little bit of the visual they've done.
51:55Incredible. I don't know if you saw, I shared another reel that they showed like how quick. Yeah. Like this guy shows us real and he's talking like I'm talking right now. And as he's talking, it literally shifts from like eight different faces and it is mirroring. Oh, while he's talking? While he's talking. And I mean, it looks, also it looks spot on to Elon, looks spot on to, like it looks. If he fakes, it's like, yeah, I remember when that first started and it was like pretty decent. Now it's like, it's real close to indistinguishable. Yeah. It's real close. You can't tell. Yeah. That's wild.
52:26All right, I'll take a left on some studies that one of our partners actually conducted. So we work with a company called Dose, and they have a couple products. One of them is for liver health. They did an eight-week study themselves. So this is a product inside this. You drink some of it, so it's a liquid. There's turmeric, dandelion root, milk thistle, ginger roots in there. So in their eight-week study, they took 30 participants. In two months, there was a 50 % reduction in both liver enzymes, AST and ALT. 50 % reduction. Wow. So in this study that they conducted, it shows a dramatic improvement in how we would measure liver health.
53:12Now, why is this important? If your liver is healthy, you feel better. You got more energy. uh you're uh healthier and a 50 reduction from a natural product is pretty how was the study well there's also another study i didn't even bring up earlier what is it the results are even more dramatic 88 reduction yeah wow in ast alt alp why is that so much higher is that a longer study yeah this is a six-month clinical 130 participants double blind um wow yeah so i would Just recommend people go on their page, dosdaily.co, and look at their clinical studies. They're very remarkable. Yeah, I mean, you guys, like liver health is so, this is the organ of the body that essentially keeps you clean.
54:00It's a filtration system. It's so bombarded with just chemicals in the clothing that we wear, the foods that we eat, the stuff we use on our skin. Yeah. Not to mention things like - We're getting bombarded, yeah, every day. Yeah, pollution. Not to mention like, you know, pharmaceuticals, if you're on hormones, taking medication. I think I said the wrong URL is dosdaily.co and it's forward slash mind pump. That's the one. Check that out. What is it again? Say it again. Dosdaily.co forward slash mind pump. Yeah. What's the pharmaceutical that you would use in replace with something like that? What would normally be prescribed for someone like that?
54:38I don't know. If someone came back and all their levels were super high, would there be a pharmaceutical that normally - Typically, they'll make you change lifestyle and get rid of pharmaceuticals. A lot of pharmaceuticals affect your liver negatively. So oftentimes, if you go in - So normally, like a diet recommendation? Yeah, and the first thing they'll do is say, do you drink alcohol? And are you taking any medications? And then they'll take you off. Some medications hit the liver really, really hard. NSAIDs can sometimes. I know that it's not an NSAID, but it's a pain reliever. Acetaminophen can have a pretty negative effect on the liver.
55:12So it's pretty cool. So it's like you take a daily little shot of this stuff. Oh, it's just a shot. You don't drink the whole bottle. No. That's a big-ass bottle. Yeah, I know. I thought that's what you had to drink. No, how big is the serving? How many ounces? I think it's two ounces, I believe. Yeah, two fluid ounces. It's just two ounces, dude. Yeah, it's a little shot. That's it. Oh, I thought you had to drink that whole thing. No, good God. Yeah, I totally thought that. Well, it's in like a ready-to-drink. No, you pour a little bit. Oh, that's cool. Yep. Oh, I'll totally take one of those home.
55:43Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that. I thought that was like a... So some of these things I was having you take. Right. So that's why I'm curious. I mean, and I thought I was going to have to drink that whole thing and replace it. By the way, have you had your liver enzymes tested again since all that? I mean, they tested it when we did the MRI. Oh, did they? Well, they... No, no, no, no. Yeah, but if it was off, it would have came up. No, you won't see your enzymes. You'll see fatty liver. That's like next level. But you won't see your liver enzymes. You have to do a blood test. No. I mean, my blood work is coming up.
56:08I mean, I take blood work every three to six months. So I'll be up on that. Which, by the way, I got to comment on this. You mentioned that you were moody, that you're moodiness. It's a lot better, dude. I wonder how much of an impact I was having on it. I'm serious. It's way different. It is, dude. You're still moody. I tie more to financial stress. I see trends. Hey, taxes and quality. Like I said, you're human. I was already done out of the way. I already went through my anger of all that stuff. That stuff is, we're in a new year. It's New Year, all positive stuff. Yeah, yeah. So I think we'll see.
56:43But maybe, maybe you're right. Maybe. Speaking of which, what do you think about crypto with Bitcoin also? They're talking about how it's going to blow up. Yeah. I mean, it's up today. Are you following it? Yeah, I'm following it. I'm keeping an eye. Did you see that Bank of America is recommending people put 4 % of their investments in Bitcoin? I know. I know. Are you serious? 4%, yeah. Well, I told you what they're trying to do, too, is they're trying to move assets onto the blockchain. chain so what is a very likely future for us this is why i'm not a believer in the big correction or crash that some people think is coming i think we're just assets are going to continue to run i think they're going to continue to devalue the dollar as i'm sure doug wouldn't argue that and i think what's going to happen is like you people that have assets like like homes and so that that are worth millions of dollars you can actually sell portions of it on the blockchain Oh.
57:34So let's say I own a, you know, this house that I own in the next five years is a$5 million house. And it's like I need capital. I can go like, oh, let me give 10 % of - Like crowdsource it? No, it's not crowdsourcing it. It's literally putting it on the blockchain and then you can share, just like a company sells shares of its company. So you sell shares of your home. Shares of your home. And they've already done, they're already doing this with - That's interesting. Yes. I've heard that. Yes. They're trying to move assets onto the blockchain. That is weird. Watch it. Watches, cars, houses. Speaking of where, you're just reminding me of something.
58:09You guys know what squatters are, right? Not like workout squatters. Big problem in some states, by the way. California. Some states, the laws are so dumb that people will go in the house and they won't leave. And it takes six months to a year to kick them out. And they commandeer it. Yeah. So there's this one dude. Have you guys heard of this guy? I've watched a guy who broke down a hack on how he does it. It's like so dirty. No, so I've seen that guy. And he talks about how long he stays in the house for free, how much money he gets from the station, and then he makes money to get the keys for...
58:39That's right. He asks them for money to leave, and they give it to him. Yes. Because they can't do anything about it. Yeah. Anyway, there's this one dude. Despicable. This is a real hero, you guys. This is like a real-life hero. Do you know what he is? He squats the squatters. Yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How does that happen? He shows up to these houses with squatters, and he moves in, and he annoys the hell out of them. No way. Yes. You've got to find this. I love him. Like air horn. Bro, I would pay. Just paid an awful roommate. I would pay more money for that. Imagine. I would hire someone. What a brilliant.
59:12Can you move into my house and just be annoying? I mean, that's happening to so many people in California. That's like a business idea. It is a business idea. Imagine like a full-time job. I go get your squatters out. Yeah. Yeah. I got like an 80 % success rate within three weeks. Trust me. I walk around naked with my horn long enough and their asses are out. what a great guy that does that and he films himself yeah i got him his name is let me see this that is brilliant slash shelton yeah read about that this water hunter those guys he's a real hero you know what i mean i love this i love this i can't believe i haven't heard of this i know so good i would dude i would you could make you could make a literal side business not just yourself you can employ people yeah like because the amount of money that the okay a house in california average rent is what like 2 ,500 three grand a month you get a squatter in there you're losing that monthly you're not getting them out for like eight months oh yeah if you're lucky oh yeah especially if they go and because i i saw this other guy who was saying like how they make it really difficult is like do they get in there they get the pg e bill put in their name they do all these things they're like so it makes it really difficult to get them out where he can last like a year there so imagine you have a you start a little business where you and your employees like that's what you go do is you go annoy the shit out of these squads and if you're that squatter you're just like i'll go i'll go screw somebody else over you know i'm saying like just i'm out because i you know how much i would struggle with this you guys if i had a house with a squad you know how much i would struggle with with not going in there and like getting violent like it would be really hard for me to know they're just some random person it's happened that i can't get them out i have close friends it's happened to them they lost that's so frustrating A ton of money.
1:00:53A ton of money with just not being able to get them out of that house. That's so funny. I think it took a year. It took like a year. A year? Yes. It is not easy here. In California, it makes it really, really. It's so weird. Yeah. And the better they, the more the squatter understands the laws and the loopholes and stuff like that, the longer and the more difficult it is for them. Because the cops show up, and this person, the squatter is like. It's just making me angry. Here's my AT &T and my PG &E bill. This is my place. Then the homeowner could be like, this is my home. How is this possible?
1:01:27Yeah. Sorry. Shows that he's a - Wow. Yes. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? The squatter hunter. Yeah, he's a real American hero. Where did you come across this? I just read it. There we go. That's so good. Good man. That's so good. All right. All right, Doug. Send me that link. I want to look into that. Yeah. That's a business idea. I bet you it's an illegal business. They probably make it illegal to squat squatters. Of course. Of course they would. Yeah, I mean, I'd do it anyway. Oh, I would too. It would be a great - I'd like get three huge guys in there. Yeah, you just start squatting the governor's house.
1:01:59Yeah, dude. Well, I mean, the move is you just go in there and you become this annoying roommate. Yeah. Yeah, you just - Because that person's squatting, hoping they're going to get rest. No, you're playing your music loud all night long. Yeah, why wouldn't you just move in with them? Yeah, so he eats their food, blasts music. Yeah, listen, he eats their food and blasts music. Yes, dude. Becomes the worst roommate imaginable. That's exactly what he does. That's the play. And that's what, okay. Look at that picture of him just watching the guy sleep. If you didn't have a job, Justin, you would go do that.
1:02:30Yeah, you'd have to do that. Yeah, you would never. If someone did that to one of your rental properties, you wouldn't go do shit about it. I'd have a buddy do that. Yeah. That's what I would do. I would be like, hey, listen, I'm going to pay. Yeah, find one of my unemployed friends to go do that. I mean, I'd do a lot of things. Yeah, we're moving in. We don't know about it. Wow. That's crazy. Put a mask on. That's so frustrating. Take care of it. Jolie is a water filter that goes on your shower head or replaces your shower head. So why would you want filtered water that you shower with? Well, here's why.
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1:03:44What's up, Tyler? What's going on, man? Good, good. How can we help you? That's a little bit of a thing about myself. I'm 28 years old. I'm 6 '1", 292 pounds. I was 336 pounds before cancer. My job's a mason tender, and I have three kids. And my question's kind of about symmetry and all that. My right side of my body is stronger and bigger, but my left side has more definition and has way worse mind-muscle connection. how to fix that. Oh, well, I mean, we have a program for that. Do you have MAPS symmetry? No, I have no MAPS programs. Oh, dude, that's perfect for you. So, yeah, you should live in unilateral training for a good year.
1:04:29Yep. And it'll balance out your body, strengthen you. You'll feel good. It'll make a huge difference. MAPS symmetry is exactly that. Start with the weak side first, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So when you follow the program on the unilateral lifts, start the lift on the weak side. Let the weak side dictate the reps and the weight. And what you'll find is over the course of two or three months, things will start to balance out strength-wise. Over six months, you'll start to see aesthetic changes that balance out. By the end of the year, you should be great. You should feel great. What did you do to bring down the weight?
1:05:03When I had cancer, it was testicular cancer. My testosterone dropped a lot within two months, and this was slowly getting back to normal. How long have you been in a remission? A little over a year now. Okay, good. Did you have to go on TRT or you're back to normal? I'm not back to normal, but they won't put me on TRT because it's still not classified as low enough. Got it. Got it. Well, that's good. Usually it comes back, especially a young man your age. Yeah, no, we'll send you map symmetry, dude. That's the program to follow. It's perfect for what you're explaining. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much.
1:05:35You got it, man. Thanks for pulling in. Thank you. Adam's like, how did you lose weight, cancer? Like, Adam, you do. That sucks. Oh, my God. He's, you know, balancing out the body. Here's the thing. It's not a hard thing to do, but it does take focus. And very rarely do people follow a structured unilateral training program. We'll do unilateral exercises in a program, but most programs are bilateral focused. And so, you know, where am I going with this? when you do a concentrated unilateral program like a few months you notice tremendous uh progress because the body starts to balance out and you used to build muscle you build a lot of muscle through that process somebody this imbalance too would spending at least a year doing this too yep so it's not even just a short program of three months doing it you need to if you if he has that much of a discrepancy from left to right he needs to stay and symmetry is one of those programs you could do for a long time it doesn't cause uh imbalances like maps anabolic where you could if you follow it too often or too long you can start to you know develop some injuries yeah i mean we built and developed this program specifically for that type of an issue so it's like yeah it's like we have the perfect thing for you our next caller is howard from ontario what's up howard how you doing howard great great to be on guys i really like your podcast thank you so much.
1:07:01How can we help you? So I just had a quick question about how do you live? How do you hit your protein goals without raising your cholesterol? I have high cholesterol. I'm trying to lower it. I like animal based protein, but it tends to spike my, my, my cholesterol level. So I'm just trying to wonder how to hit my targets without having high cholesterol. Sure. Good question. If you don't mind me asking, what's the number get to? You know what? It's high. I don't actually know the exact number at the moment. But when it comes back on the test, it's all high. I think I could be a hyper absorber and I might have some genetic history as well.
1:07:43But I don't want to take a statin and I'm just trying to like modify my diet. Yeah, so there are polymorphisms where some people, when they consume saturated fats, their total cholesterol goes up and their lipids in general go off, right? So you look at LDL and HDL and they can be thrown off. And so this happens with some people. And so like step one that I would do with clients like this is I would move them towards grass-fed meat, leaner cuts, and I would have them go with a lot of fish. And that oftentimes did a lot. Now, if that didn't do it, then step two would be adding psyllium husk fiber where they would take that with each meal.
1:08:30That tends to lower cholesterol. And then step three was to add the supplement red yeast rice extract, which is actually a natural statin, which tends to do the trick. But oftentimes it's just changing the sources of fats. And so I would have them, like I said, eat more meat, grass-fed meat. It's got a different fatty acid profile, a little bit better, and leaner cuts. And so they would get their fats from avocados and nuts and olive oil, for example. Would you also have them do further testing to find out the particles as far as what it's reading as far as the HDL? It depends how high. That's why I asked what the number was.
1:09:10Yeah, I could get the number. If it's like 220, but if you're like in the 300s, 400s, some people really produce a tremendous amount of cholesterol. What about eggs and cheese? Because I did like those. Eggs tend to have no – the data shows tend to do nothing. to cholesterol cheese and dairy can through the saturated fat okay yeah so it's really saturated fat that you want to look at that can have a negative effect on for some people some people it doesn't affect them i'm one of those people i could eat saturated fat till my my you know till i can't breathe anymore doesn't affect my cholesterol in any way but other people it's it does so dairy would be another one that you would want to look at i mean grass-fed beef makes a huge difference yeah grass-fed meat makes it makes a pretty big difference if you eat a lot of red meat i've been buying this like australian one i don't know if it's grass-fed or not yeah you'd want grass-fed grass-finished yeah that's tough to get it can be yeah it definitely can be but like again if you go to leaner cuts does butcher box not ship up to the canada i don't know do they ship up there i don't know if butcher box i don't know yeah doug's looking it up right now for you here's something else you could try right so oftentimes well let me ask you this what's your fitness goal they do just gain muscle lose fat like everyone else okay doug said butcher box delivers uh to canada i'll look into them because yeah they get they have really really good cuts of uh of grass fed meat um uh so okay so losing eating in a deficit and dropping carbohydrates uh in many cases makes a big difference.
1:10:55How is your carbohydrate or sugar intake? I try, I'm trying to lower that as well. Um, definitely low on the sugar for carbs. I mostly eat like complex carbs, like potatoes or rice. I dropped wheat completely. So I wanted to try how that would have any effect on my metabolism as well. So, uh, that's kind of, uh, where I'm at, but I, I don't eat the only real carbs that I eat are fruits and vegetables. How long have you been doing that? For a while. Yeah. Have you lost body fat since you started doing that? I don't know. It kind of comes and goes. I was down to about 180 at one point. The holidays aren't so great for weight loss, but definitely I'm going to do like dry January.
1:11:43So that might have a good impact as well. So that I just completely cut out alcohol. Okay. And how many, if you don't mind me asking, how many drinks were you averaging per week? Maybe like five to ten. Makes a big difference. Yeah. That often makes a big difference. Alcohol impacts the liver, and the liver is where the cholesterol is made. Even more so than sugar. That makes a pretty big difference for some people. Stay consistent with what you're doing. You can make some of those changes. Honestly, if you're eating clean, hitting your protein, strength training, no alcohol, in a deficit, and you add like the psyllium husk.
1:12:21Psyllium husk is just a fiber and probably give you better digestion anyway. It's also got other benefits. That might do the trick. Okay. I've been doing chia seeds in the morning with like Greek yogurt. So psyllium husk is different. So psyllium husk, you take it with each meal. Okay. Yeah, you'd like five or six capsules or a teaspoon or a tablespoon. You can order it on Amazon. Have it here tomorrow. Super cheap. and I mean I've been using it for a while it's really good for gut health also it also helps the body get rid of microplastics because it binds to them so you could try a few of those things with the dry January and then retest and see where you're at yeah I bet 30 days of eating like that and taking that he'd be a lot better absolutely yeah okay thank you thank you I'll try that definitely you got it man thanks for calling in all right Howard thanks yeah I'm glad he got to the alcohol part bro yeah okay so alcohol is top right above sugar everybody thinks everybody thinks sugar like there is no uh like healthy amount of alcohol this is huge myth the studies on alcohol that show a benefit uh what they don't control for uh because you'll see some studies like oh a glass of wine we've all heard that right it's got some health benefits this is just marketing what they're looking at are people that commune with other people and so people who have a glass of wine who are with other people and communing uh overall tend to be healthier but when you control for all that it's any amount of alcohol well yeah and they try and use the effect that's coming from grapes and the antioxidants that you get drink a glass of grape juice then our next caller is charlie from iowa what's up charlie how you doing charlie what's happening hey guys things are going well here a little cold but you know how can we help you?
1:14:07Yeah. So thrilled to be here and give a little context. Start of my fitness journey is about nine, 10 years ago, and I have been with you the whole time. So thank you for what you guys do. Awesome. 2015, 2016, I was considerably overweight, about 350 pounds. I started dedicating some time to diet and really a lot of cardio and dropped down over a hundred pounds, got to around 235. I moved, started a new job and moved in with a guy who was a power lifter. And so that's when I really started getting into lifting. 21, 22, did a lot of power lifting, did some competition and got to a total of 11, 10.
1:14:54So pretty good on the big three. Nice, nice. Switched again a couple of years ago to where I'm currently at. So full time, I'm here at my desk at our company. I'm a sales rep for a moving company. I'm also a part-time professor, a full-time doctoral student, and very active in my church. So a lot going on. And over the last two years, it's kind of just normal, running like MAPS anabolic pretty consistently, but still have a long way to go, kind of up and down with the weight, whether I'm in a bulk or a cut between 260 to 280. And my question is kind of with my 2026 goals. So I have a couple of powerlifting competitions I'd like to do.
1:15:40One of those is a full three in March. And then the fun one with my gym is a deadlift competition in July. Also have a friend that has signed up for a half marathon and I agreed, but I'm a little concerned that it may. And so trying to fit a half marathon prep with powerlifting at the same time. So that's my question. Should I or can I reasonably mix those? And with my long-term goals of just being as strong and as fit as possible, what would you guys recommend? Well, Charlie, you're a grown-up. You can do whatever you want, but you're going to suck at both of them. Those are conflicting. They couldn't be more conflicting with each other.
1:16:24You could do both, but like Adam said, you'll just suck at them. You got to pick one, dude. Yeah, just because they're so different. And in fact, the extra weight, all that stuff is going to play into the competition. That's going to play against the marathon. I mean, it's like the two couldn't be further from each other. Yeah. It doesn't mean you can't do it. Just go into it knowing that you wouldn't do very well at either one of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And being a regular listener, I knew that's what you guys would say. So would there be benefit for me to take a break from the lifting to do more cardio?
1:17:04Like I don't really do any dedicated cardio other than steps. Is there a benefit to pausing the lifting for marathon training? Let me help you out. So, um, you got a pretty busy schedule, but Charlie, do you have kids married or is it just all the stuff that you said? It's I'm single. Just all those things is kind of the life. Okay. Tell me what your schedule looks like work-wise with all the stuff that you're doing. And then what's your sleep look like? Yeah. So, uh, the company get here at 7am each day and work until about three. And then I usually go to the gym directly from work they're about five minutes apart so it's on the way home works really well okay and then when i get home eat dinner and then it's kind of a scramble to get class prep do my own homework things like that uh pretty dedicated to go to bed around 9 9 30 each night and sleeps it's not great but it's uh serviceable usually get seven eight good hours that's pretty good but i do i do wake up quite a bit throughout the night.
1:18:10So it's not, not ideal, uh, for sleep, but, uh, things, things are pretty busy, pretty stressful. The waking up can sometimes be a sign of, uh, overtraining. Yep. Okay. So what does your workout look like right now? Cause you said you go to the gym, how long are you in the gym? What are you doing? Yeah. So most of the fall, I was running maps anabolic and with, with some, you know, nod to power lifting. So probably more deadlifting than, than typical. Um, but, uh, I had been doing pretty consistent three to four days a week and, uh, usually about 45 minutes to an hour with those. Um, I did, uh, just start, uh, power lift 15.
1:18:52So trying to dial back, just recognizing that things were a little much, especially through the holidays. Um, but, uh, that's, that's kind of where I'm at. Diet-wise, are you whole food-based? Are you hitting your protein targets every day? Not as consistent as I was a few years back, but I do aim at 200 grams of protein. And I would say most days are in the orbit of 200, but not always super clean. learned my previous roommate we were huge fans of the dirty bulk so i have some bad habits uh that still need to get uh refurbished there i mean what okay if he if he if he consistently hits a high protein diet he runs mass power lift 15 and then he has like goes for a run afterwards well i was just gonna say so he could do there's some really cool studies that have just recently come out that have compared two ways of training for both strength and endurance.
1:19:54The traditional way of doing this is to either A, combine it in a workout. So you would do your lifting first, then you would end with a little bit of stamina training, or you would do a day of dedicated lifting with a day of dedicated stamina. They compare that to a group of people that did one week of strength training only, and then one week of endurance training, and then one week of strength training. So the alternating week group did better in everything. So if you want both, now I'm going to be clear, you're not going to get the greatest amount of both by doing both. So you're not going to be as strong as you can get if you just did strength.
1:20:34You're not going to get as much endurance as you could get if you just did endurance, right? It's like hybrid. But you'll get some of both. So what you could do is MAPS 15 power lift one week. the next week focus on building endurance no lifting then you get back to math 15 power lift uh the following week as if you were doing it week after week and alternate like that the other thing i'll add is this start meal prepping and hit 220 grams of protein every day yeah that'll make a huge difference but you got a meal prep dude because what probably happens is you miss then you order out you eat a little whatever and garbage comes in and you hit you miss it makes a massive difference nothing will make you suck more both these things but then hitting not hitting protein while trying to especially big dude like you with all that training yeah yeah you you start running and you're only doing this once and you're missing protein like that's the fastest way to suck it both but you could you could you could do all right if he did that if you do what i said uh 220 every day consistently which means you'll probably have to throw a shake in there uh meal prep and you know map 15 power lift then the next week is marathon you know half marathon style training and alternate you should get some really nice results and the work up to the half marathon running by the way it's not like uh you go for a half marathon yeah you want programming for that too so it's like it's you know it's like strength training you need programming to just go run your butt off well it's it's the complete opposite of dead lifting i i love dead lifting and squatting and benching.
1:22:07I hate running. So, uh, you know, you guys are giving me the ammo and the gun that I need here to, to say no to the running, but I can't see the benefit of doing it. Um, yeah, I think that answers my question. So thank you guys so much. You got it, man. Yeah. Thank you guys. When he first was telling us the schedule, I was like, Oh my God, that's a lot. But then I asked him, like, do you have kids? And if I was no all right you're fine yeah and he's getting and he sounds like he's very religious about getting in nine o 'clock exactly yeah he's getting seven eight like that's uh it's not bad and then he's and then when he i heard he switched to maps 15 i went that's a way more appropriate program and then yeah if he toggles this between like you said either i have yet to try it dude i know i want to try it me too i i heard so i'm not sure if uh what podcast were you on um where the guy's like an endurance athlete and he's also like in the listing nick bear yeah i wonder if he trains like that like i don't know yeah that guy's a machine yeah yeah great guy too super nice guy yeah but this is these are cool studies i have yet to try it in fact i never trained a client that way i always mixed it right you know but i do a dedicated day i mean you but it makes so much sense where you're at makes sense with the amount of muscle that you've put on you'd be a really fun test to do this with right now i probably won't but i'll probably have to do this at some point our next caller is gabriel from texas what's up gabriel what's happening hey how y 'all doing good man good man good to see you again so give us an update nice to see y 'all okay so the last time we spoke i had some prs for y 'all so my squat was 440 my bench was 293 and my deadlift was 481 i'll tell y 'all the do's first and then the don'ts that i did from the things that y 'all gave me advice for so I I really did prioritize my sleep that one like even my dad when I got this job he like kind of told me like every day dude get your sleep get your sleep and so I was just like okay like I know it's a big deal I kind of just asked y 'all for like the gym aspect of it um so I I really did prioritize my sleep a lot uh one of my co-workers he would like to go out a lot
1:24:25Like, I'm sorry. I hate to sound like that. But if it's between me getting my eight and a half to nine hours of sleep or going out for a couple of drinks with you, like, I'm sorry, dude, but no, I'm going to sleep. And so that was that was like a really, really big thing that I like made a priority over like from throughout the time that we talked and the course of my prep. um and then my nutrition was a very close second and then obviously the gym like you know the lifting was was right behind that but so since then i do have some new prs to tell you all about all right my squat went from 440 to 491 my bench went from 293 to 299 all right and my deadlift went from 481 to 485 nice i did i did do my competition like two weeks ago and i got second place nice nice good job yeah so that that was uh it's legit yeah good good good uh good test for me yeah that's great what's your question so so so my question to y 'all is um what can i do to improve my deadlift because i do pull conventional and it's just that was the one that like people ask me like how do you squat more than you deadlift or like you know like how like how is your deadlift not better than it is now and this is just like my friends that i've made at the gym that you know we kind of just talk like oh what was your what was your like recent pr what was this and so when i tell them about my deadlift that's always the one that i'm kind of just like yeah i i know that's my my weakest lift yeah but you got a nice squat how tall are you bro uh five eight yeah yeah so you're gonna you're gonna be a better squatter i mean you This happens sometimes.
1:26:14Usually someone deadlifts more than they squat, which is why people are like, what's going on here? But there are cases. Justin, you're squats. Yeah, I'm in this category too, yeah. Yeah, Justin's squat is better than his deadlift. Yeah. So have you tried using variable resistance with your deadlifts, like bands and chains? I haven't. My coach was implementing pause at deadlifts for a little while, but when we got closer to competition, he kind of cut it out. and we just stuck to straight comp deadlift. Ask about using bands. I got great results implementing bands, speed deadlifts. Clients got great results with them.
1:26:57I would implement those and see if that makes a big difference for you. Okay. Yeah. The other thing you can do, too, is reduce the intensity that you put on your squat so you can dedicate it to your deadlift. You're traded out of it. Yeah. I do think that that played a part because I think it was over the summer I had one block of singles and my primary days were all back to back to back and my deadlift happened to be the last day and I told my coach I told him hey man I'm kind of like my body's not feeling it I don't know how this is going to go but I'm still going to attempt it anyway and so that was my first time attempting 485 and I had failed it but then going into this prep everything in terms of deadlift was looking like I was gonna pull something pretty pretty good um but I failed 501 on the week the week right before my prep so my week four I mean right before my comp I'm sorry my week four um but it broke the ground so I knew 485 was gonna move it was just whether or not I was feeling it at the competition yeah and so you have a power lifting coach yes sir yeah dude so ask about using variable resistance like bands and chains okay especially for for guys who are advanced like you who are strong like i don't necessarily do that with people when i've you know been training for the first year or two but once you start to hit those plateaus and the higher numbers it i mean it's it got my this is what got my deadlift above uh 550 it was like it stuck there for a long time then i started using bands i'd go down to 405 and i'd put heavy strong bands and i do some some weeks like that where i'm pulling against heavy bands and they felt real smooth and it just it just my my deadlift went through the roof i added 50 pounds i mean this isn't definitely not my wheelhouse but when i've had success when i'm i just i prioritize the one that i care about the most in other words like if it's deadlift it it becomes the lift that i focus on first in the week and that made a huge difference and then vice versa when i was doing when i was trying to chase after my squat going up it was like squat became the priority so i don't know if that's what it looks like in your week is you know are you focusing more on the squat or it's normally after your rest days and when you feel your best like you just flip that and make the deadlift become kind of the priority when you're when you're training i think i think my coach did notice that because he did put my deadlift it used to be on it was either tuesdays or Thursdays and then, and he switched it to Mondays.
1:29:35So, so then I had a Friday was my primary squat. Saturday was my primary bench. Um, so I had all day, Saturday, all day, Sunday, and then I wouldn't go to the gym till Monday after work. So that was giving me like, you know, that 48 hour when to recover from the squat. Yeah. That always helped me when I was like, when I was focused. You're at a level where, you know, cause you're strong, you're really strong. How much, what's your body weight um i signed up at 82.5 but i weighed in at 80 flat so it was 176 wow yeah oh yeah you're strong so you're at it you're at a level now where the small tweaks make the difference like you know chains bands deficit deads you know speed deadlifts you know like pause these little techniques start to make a big difference uh for people like you even even consider like how long you've been like in the training this way too have you kind of cycled out and did like something that's more like hypertrophy focused yeah hypertrophy or unilateral work like because you're you are you're at this level where you know gaining three to five pounds is a big deal now because you're already kind of at peak performance have you cycled off so so i this is actually on new year's is going to be my second full year power lifting um i'm like relatively new i know that's not new but i'm still like new amongst my friends that have been doing it um and i actually just talked to my coach about this because i don't remember which episode we're not really supposed to wear our airpods at work anymore so i kind of binge listen to you guys um so i don't remember which one it was but i know you guys did recommend like a full block of unilateral training so i did pitch that to my coach and he told me that he liked that idea so i think starting this block we are going to start to implement things like that.
1:31:25I think that'll be huge. I think if you do a block of unilateral training, then you come back again, I think you'll see some good stuff from that too. He wants me to do two. So I'm thinking we're doing two full blocks of just, I'm still going to do the compound lifts, but a majority of my accessory work after that is just going to be unilateral training. I love that. And I'm assuming you're doing things like reverse hypers and all that. uh is can you elaborate on that so reverse hyper so you you know whatever reverse hyper you lay flat on your you lay flat on your stomach and then you swing your legs come out your legs up oh yeah yeah we have a machine like that i do that one as well yes good yeah that's great yeah that's great so i got reverse reverse hypers single leg deadlifts bands you said a lot from your hip thrust yeah hip thrust those translated really well to my deadlift oh okay so i because I don't think my coach adds hip thrust in.
1:32:21I could ask him maybe if we could add that one in. It'd be a good time while you're doing this unilateral work. Take a break from a lot of hard traditional powerlifting, and this is where I would add unilateral work and some of the stuff that he's talking about. Yeah, it's not a traditional powerlifting exercise because hip thrusts weren't really popular for a long time. But this is more recent for me, and I never really did them back in the day. I only did them for correctional exercise purposes. but you could load the heck out of a hip thrust and you know i can i got my hip thrust up to close to 700 pounds and for sure i saw translation to my deadlift i think one of the episodes i don't remember who made fun of you for that they were like why are you bragging about that definitely justin and i make fun of him we definitely make fun of him when he does it yeah yeah he does have the biggest deadlift you know i'm saying he's got the biggest deadlift but the only thing he's got the biggest step by that he's got that for sure there's one other thing i want to see how that translates to kettlebell swings i don't know yeah okay i'll uh i'll mention that to my coach so i'm i'm assuming the so like my my top sets i would have to do them without the bands and then the back down sets i could tell him like hey can we try adding bands to see if that what i would do what i used to do with mine was the the deadlift workout was a dedicated band one so instead of working up to a heavy weight uh i would add bands and i'd focus on speed so yeah so just to give you an example let's say at the moment you know my my my top deadlift is 520 let's say i'd go up to maybe 350 and i'd put really heavy bands on the bar and i'd focus on speed uh and the way bands pull it feels totally different because at the bottom you don't notice So you get up to the top, it gets really hard.
1:34:13And it just made my deadlift so strong. I did. I think I know what you're talking about because I did start implementing that when I warm up for my bench. So, like, I'll take a heavy bench and then, like, with really light weight, I'll just do, like, a tempo on the way down and try to explode as fast as I can. But bands are great. Bands are great for the speed. They're great. Because they get really tight at the top. I really love what you and your coach are doing, though. two blocks of unilateral work, I think, is going to be two years straight of like power lifting. Your body will get you good and stable.
1:34:43Yeah. You got you got like two or three years of more gains, dude. You're doing really well. Yeah. Don't tell me that because I'm chasing numbers right now. You're doing good. You're at the point now where injury prevention should be at the top, which is pretty strong, which is another reason why the unilateral is going to be so good. So that was actually going to go into my next question. If there's still time. sure okay um so i uh i think the last time we spoke i had told y 'all that i don't really have like very many friends out here yet um but i like i said i do have friends at the gym now so a couple of times a week well not usually it's once a week sometimes we go twice but they'll invite me to go play soccer with them and i hurt my knee like six to eight weeks out of my recent competition and so i i was just i honestly think i would have hit a heavier squat had i not got that little knee injury but i didn't squat anything heavier than 363 for like i think maybe three or four weeks so like the last three weeks of my of my prep i kind of pushed my cns to yeah if i could at least get that back but is there any way that i could still like play soccer you don't want to do you don't i wouldn't be doing that while you're in the middle of power lifting training that's that's like recipe for an injury to go do something here's the thing though you got to balance this out dude so like you know look at your life and what's important to you uh because you have a social component overall like big picture the soccer is going to keep you agile you're not a heavy guy if you just focus on power lifting for the next five years and you never do anything with agility you're gonna lose a lot of agility yeah but here's a good time though you're about to do two blocks of unilateral this is when i would play around with some soccer movements and doing some stuff.
1:36:30Increase your mobility. The closer you get to competition is when you would eliminate it. Yeah. Like, don't, I know you mentioned that you're still going to be doing some of your traditional, it's okay, you're not going to lose all this crazy strength if you do just do a lot of focus on unilateral and maybe do some agility training, maybe have some soccer, but that's the time to do it. You don't do that in the middle of like, I'm trying to stack weight on the bar. Six weeks away from a competition. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to be, that's not when you play soccer. You play soccer in this two-week block you got coming up right now, because you're challenging unilateral stability.
1:37:01That's the time to do that, not when you're really trying to increase your lifts. Overall, I would say just look at your overall, what do you want out of your life? And if you're like, man, I just want a power lift, and that's what brings you joy, then yeah, you definitely have to make some decisions. But if you're like, you know what? I love power lifting, but I really like the social component. I mean, my man is passing up drinks to go to bed at nine so he can get his resume. He wants to hit some repeat. I'm not making that up either. I promise. I know. I believe. I'm trying to tell you, Sal, you're very focused right now, very serious about getting your power lift up.
1:37:34But then on the other end, Adam, he's not doing the social component with that, but he's got the social component with soccer. He's a young man. So my point is you just consider it all. Make your decision. Stick with it. You know what I mean? Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. Yeah. But in my opinion, this is the time that you would play with things like soccer because you're going to a unilateral. You're giving a little bit of a break. of the really heavy lifting and bilateral stuff. Now it's time to do unilateral, multi-planar movements, maybe throw in some soccer here and there. That's the time to do it.
1:38:06Then when you get back off those two blocks, it's game time. It's power lifting time, and now you're back to your programming. You're adding the bands in. You're doing all that stuff. Yeah, that was what I definitely told myself because when I hurt myself in the middle of my prep, I kicked my own butt. Yeah, I was so mad at myself. And I was, well, my coach just told me, dude, like, I mean, you're still six weeks out, like just recover, rest. We'll see how things go. Because I told them, I know it doesn't feel like I'm hurt, like I can't compete, but it's just I can't squat. Like, I know I can't do that.
1:38:44Gabriel, how old are you? I actually just turned 29 last night. Yeah, dude, you're very disciplined. You're doing great, dude. Yeah. Yeah, and the social component's good, too. you need friends you need good men around you I like that you skip the drinking you know not a lot of good things happen when you go out at night and drink but you know when you're playing you know game with each other and you got your friend like that's also important but you're also very disciplined looks like you got a job you're structured with your training sounds like your dad you got a good relationship with your dad you're doing great bro so you know look at all of it as a big picture and say okay what do I want out of life and you know what's most important to me and then you make your decision and stick with it because if you walk back and forth that's when you'll have problems it's like are you going to be a professional power lifter is that your ultimate dream i mean it's good to be that disciplined and i think that provides a lot of value but also like yeah if you if you also want to have interactions and social like you got to add that flexibility in there so it's okay that you can kind of like intermittently go between one or the other that's why i did tell myself that if i do go play soccer it would probably be like maybe just like either a deload week or week one week two like yeah is that is that something that maybe i won't even try it on prep i promise you i'll never try that again yeah but but like even like if it's just you know regular training like if it's week one and it's not extremely heavy can i yeah yeah do your due diligence though with like priming really just remember i mean you you have built a you built an engine with a lot of horsepower that's designed to go really hard and fast straight and then every once in a while you're trying to you're trying to take corners by playing soccer so just keep that in mind so understand how much horsepower you've built in this engine of yours running straight and so you need to make sure that you do a little bit of your mobility warm up properly like and then you'll you'll be okay it's it's it's being that strong in that direction and then all of a sudden think you're gonna go explosive left to right we take that 15 20 minutes of mobility before every time you do any kind of soccer okay okay do you have do you have maps performance i do not all right so we'll send maps performance to you and then in maps performance there's mobility days and so what i would recommend is you doing all the lower especially the lower body stuff before you play soccer yeah the mobility session so throw a mobility session in and do that and do your due diligence before that that will really protect you from potentially getting hurt because you do you've got you've built you're strong bro you're really strong but you're really strong with both your feet on the ground facing forward you know that and then trying to translate that direction going left really quick or twisting or backpedal like and soccer requires that like at the highest level and so that's normally where an injury happens it's it's not because you're not strong athletic and fit it's because you're strong and athletic hips mobile and your ankles mobile yes okay i do i do think that is one thing i need to prioritize now is my ankle mobility because I just do maybe like one warm up before I squat and then that's kind of it I think I think I do need to be better about that I can admit that for myself especially if you want to play soccer because that requires a ton of ankle mobility oh my gosh I mean if you got these stone ankles you got these explosive quads hamstring and glutes like you're gonna they're gonna hurt your knees that's that's where the knee pain is coming from all day long you just create discipline for that so it's top of mind and you just like keep practicing mobility exercise for your ankle.
1:42:10It'd be good. Does that MAPS performance have anything for ankle mobility? Yes. Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. Yeah. We'll send that to you and work on that. This is just real quick. I've been experimenting with 15 grams of creatine and I feel fine. Can I try 20? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The data on that's pretty awesome for brain health. I just heard that. I think I listened to it either yesterday or the day before, but I just didn't know like how do you know when to call like when is enough uh I mean 20 is what the data is showing I mean I don't know if there's danger in going above that I doubt it I think it's probably more like stomach issues will happen gastro yeah but you could try 20 see if you notice a difference if you don't back back go back to them gummies up or what no I just get the one from Sam's Club it's like 17 for 100 and it's uh it's a sebums brand so it's you know it's a pretty good brand yeah all right yeah creatine monohydrate you're good you're right but yeah appreciate that thank you so much for the for the program as well you got it man all right man take it easy have a good day you got it you know you know it's it's it depends who i'm talking to right if this was a young man that struggled with discipline then that's what you push he is a disciplined guy yeah i mean and the miss the what can happen to sometimes a guy that's which is not common usually young men are not very disciplined but when they're really disciplined they get so focused on one thing that they they leave out or lose the value of other things like socialization having good men around you and sometimes it looks like it's just work or it's just workouts or you know so that's why i'm like you know measure it out see for yourself you know yeah but i'll tell you where i'm coming from i'm i'm this this this kid literally the same age was all for the first time in my life chasing prs hitting big numbers and then still wanting to go play basketball that's where all my injuries happen yes so and recipe yeah it's it's a recipe for that when you all of a sudden get really strong you know in one plane but you're young you can still get out on the court you can do things your your body's different now and so that's where i'm coming from on on that is not that like no i mean it's true yeah i mean i'm pro social do all those things but it's like you got to be careful you can account for it you got yeah for it yeah when you get that it's not like it'd be different if he's just a guy who likes to work out and he's He's strong.
1:44:30He's real strong. For his size. Yeah, almost 500 pounds squat. I mean, I'd be like, don't do it if he was that disciplined where he's trying to make a career out of being a pro powerlifter. But if this is just a hobby, he's got to be. But this is, in my opinion, what he should do in this block where he's doing unilateral is completely let go of the squat. Bench deadlift is like a focus at all. It's just unilateral work and maybe starting to do some performance stuff and multi-planar stuff and play some soccer. The irony is he works just on all that. he's going to get stronger overall. Exactly.
1:45:00My point is go all in on the playing soccer, doing the mobility, doing all the things in this two-week block. You're not going to come back and be a 300 squatter all of a sudden. He's going to be strong. He'll probably surpass those numbers that way. But trying to mix them when you're that strong, that's a dangerous game. Yeah, look, if you like the show, come find us on Instagram. We'll see you. It's at Mind Pump Media. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy, and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Super Bundle at mindpumpmedia.com.
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