2843: The Newbie Gains Hack That Works After Years of Training

16:59Adam Schafer:true though for exercises that aren't so different uh i know that you could be this was me uh well you just i mean the front squat's an example but even more similar like you could be you could be so good at a flat bench press with a barbell and never do dumbbells and go grab a pair of dumbbells for pressing yeah and you're way weaker now typically you'll dumbbell press less than you total weight than you can with a barbell but it's it's it's within range it's somewhat close but if you never dumbbell chest press and all you ever do is barbell bench press then you go try using dumbbells suddenly you're like oh my god i can bench press 300 pounds but i can't go heavier than 75 pound dumbbells it's such a similar exercise to go with the dumbbells get good at it watch what happens to your chest development your strength your shoulder development just because uh and

17:46Sal Di Stefano:really make it a focus because a mistake that i think i used to make too oh you just throw it in and out yes you throw it in and out or it's the third exercise of the day no it's your focus yeah it needs to become the focus like in order for my incline to show me the results that i saw from it it became the priority. So that's the tough part because then people are like, well, wait a second. Everyone says that this is the best exercise. So, okay, I'll add that other one that you're talking about, but it's like the third one or the fourth one in the workout. And by that time you're already taxed, you know what I'm saying?

18:14Sal Di Stefano:So allow it to be the priority and really get good at it and really get strong at it. And that's where you'll really reap the max benefits from it. It's not this like sprinkling in everyone, which is the mistake I made. I would sprinkle it in. Well, yeah, I do that.

18:27Adam Schafer:But not give your CNS an opportunity.

18:29Sal Di Stefano:Which my example that too, even the woods not that long ago was just when we all first got together, you know, that was squatting and deadlifting for me. It was sprinkled into my routine. It was never a focal point. I never cared to be, you know, brag about my squat numbers or my deadlift. I was Mr. Hypertrophy guy. That's all I cared about is what I looked like. And so I never cared to make that a priority. It wasn't until we got together and I was like, okay, I'm going to make this a priority and try and get really strong at my squat and my deadlift. well lo and behold you know followed the best aesthetic physique i ever had afterwards and so

19:03Adam Schafer:i remember that too you were adding like 10 15 pounds a week yeah yeah to your deadlift yeah

19:08Sal Di Stefano:every single deadlift and squat for months it was like three months yeah that this happened uh and your body and you're talking about you know 15 years into my life that's what i'm saying yeah

19:16Adam Schafer:that's the thing it's like for experienced lifters like this is such a awesome hack now now what you don't want to do necessarily is pick 15 different exercise i mean you could do that if you want to but I'll just do one. Just do one for an area you want to focus on or maybe a lifting pattern that you want to focus on and be like, I always back squat. I'm just going to front squat now or I always conventional deadlift. Now I'm going to do sumo deadlift or I always overhead press to the front. Let me go to the back or I always barbell up as you dumbbell. Pick that one exercise and be like, for the next three months, this is the first exercise I do in the workout for that body part and my goal is to get stronger and you'll see consistent gains for probably two to three months while you do that.

19:58Adam Schafer:And your body will look like you're making strength.

20:01Justin Andrews:Yeah, and then it'll carry over to your regular lifts.

20:03Adam Schafer:Totally.

20:04Sal Di Stefano:I mean, that same hack on the point of like a body part. I remember this was my big shoulder unlock. This was like, I mean, I never had made shoulders a priority. It was like, but I wanted better shoulders, but I never prioritized them above chest and back and all these other big muscles. It was like, until like I decided like, okay, this is gonna be a focal point. it became the first exercise and the first thing I would do in the week. It was just like, I'm shoulders. It's going to be in the main focus and huge, huge, crazy difference. Yeah. But it takes that there's, I, you know, I, and I remember how I felt.

20:37Sal Di Stefano:So I think that's a point I'm trying to communicate is I know the fear of letting go of something else or the fear of making something else, putting it on the back burner.

20:46Adam Schafer:Cause you think you're going to lose games or no,

20:48Sal Di Stefano:you're fearful of, yeah, but I also don't want to lose my chest just to go get my, get better shoulders. It's like you're not. You're not going to lose that by prioritizing that. You've already gotten really – you've already reached – for most people, I've reached that we're talking to has reached a lot in this category. It's like putting your bench press now in the back burner to go after something else. You're not going to all of a sudden lose 50 pounds of strength in your bench press.

21:11Adam Schafer:All right. I looked up studies on red light therapy and acne, and I'd never looked – I knew that it had a beneficial effect on acne. It has a beneficial effect on skin across the board, right? Red light therapy. People aren't familiar with red light therapy. We have studies that go back decades. It's very well studied for lots of different reasons, but for skin in particular. Like if you want healthier, actually looking skin, stronger collagen, less wrinkles, like healing scars, all that stuff, like red light therapy is remarkably effective. And I knew that it had a positive effect on acne, but I don't know just how much.

21:52Adam Schafer:I looked up the studies. 45 % reduction in acne when people were using red light therapy. And this was after four weeks.

21:59Justin Andrews:That's crazy.

22:00Adam Schafer:But this is good news because acne, people who struggle with acne, this is a big pain in the butt for a lot of people. And most of the treatments are antibiotic-based or harsh on the skin. Which being on antibiotics for that long, it's rough. Really rough, really harsh. Red light therapy is just, this is a wavelength of light that supercharges mitochondria in the skin or whatever it touches. So you could shine it on different parts of the body too. But a 45 % decrease in acne.

22:30Sal Di Stefano:I actually think this is why brands like Juve have exploded and red light therapy has become so popular in the last decade is because of all the benefits. Because there's lots of benefits to red light therapy. the thing that i think you see relatively quick like instantly within doing a few sessions of it is your skin yeah i mean i i've always communicated as like i almost feel like i've tanned or i have this glow yeah that you know and you'll if you've never tried it yeah if you've never tried it and you do three you do three sessions of 20 minute sessions in a week you'll see a difference yep like you'll and so i i and you know how that works in our space is that you know if people can't feel it, you know, it's like you really or see it.

23:12Sal Di Stefano:It's just tough to convince them how much it's working. And, you know, I know it's, it's so like all the studies on recovery and stuff that's incredible, but that's hard to measure that. It was just like, well, is it because I got good sleep or protein? It's just like, it's very obvious. It's like, I don't do this. I all of a sudden start doing this on my face. I see a diff, a noticeable difference within the first week of me doing it. Like, okay, I'm sold. It's doing something.

23:34Adam Schafer:I'm just thinking too, for parents with teenagers uh because this can be rough for teenagers uh some kids just get to go through a stage of acne and it's like what do you do with your kid you put them on these really harsh medications do you you get a red light panel you know juve uh is the company we work with you get them a red light panel have them use it you know three days a week 20 minutes and it's not chemicals it's nothing except if it's good for the skin and it'll cause a it'll show a reduction in acne

24:02Justin Andrews:I know it's funny because like my oldest is really concerned about like boosting his testosterone for everything now. Really? Yeah. I know. I was like, why? I think it's just because of social media, you know, it's just being like thrown out there everywhere. And so it's like, yeah, so I'm having a lot of conversations with him about that. We talked about red light a bit as well. You know, so he's starting to use that. He's starting to use supplements and creatine. And he's really kind of like starting to try to grab on.

24:30Adam Schafer:He's jacked, dude. for his age he's got to be one of the most jacked kids in school he's he's definitely both your kids are going to be that way you can see they got good genes dude yeah anyway i mean they're

24:39Sal Di Stefano:gymnastics exactly they have such a great foundation with that totally did you did you

24:43Adam Schafer:see i'm surprised you didn't bring this up and you might have seen this already justin did you see the chimp civil war that's happening what chimp civil war put chimp civil war and pull up

24:54Justin Andrews:news articles. Add that to your browser. So are we just going to go through all of the science fiction genres and just start throwing it out there? Everything's going crazy. Yeah. Minority Report. Sure. We got you. No, no. Check.

25:08Adam Schafer:So I want this up, this report, a news article up. Planet of the Apes. So we can see. Yes. Try to cast it up there, Doug. So we can see what's going on. This is the largest civil war.

25:19Justin Andrews:They're so vicious, too. Have you ever? Like, they rip faces off. They eat.

25:25Adam Schafer:enemy chimps. It started out, so it's the largest civil war that we've observed in, I think, in decades with chimp populations. Is this in the wild? This is obviously in the wild. This is in the wild. It started by there's rival chimp sides. I guess they killed one or two of the males. Is this somewhere like the Congo or somewhere like that?

25:46Justin Andrews:Let me pull it up. I'm having a hard time casting here. Uganda. Uganda.

25:52Adam Schafer:So I guess like one faction killed a couple of the males on this side. So then this side retaliated and then it spiraled and then one of them killed some of the kids of the other one and it just turned

26:03Justin Andrews:into like, oh yeah, dude.

26:05Adam Schafer:And it's like raids. They're just raiding each other back and forth. How many total, like how many chimps are involved? Does it say? Well, yeah. 200 chimps total.

26:15Justin Andrews:It sounds like. It's like big old, they're calling it a civil. But one faction of chimpanzees killed seven adult males and 17 infants of a rival group. What? And then 14 more adult males vanished. Bodies never recovered. What?

26:33Adam Schafer:Yeah, so you can see videos of them doing these raids. Well, like a bunch of them would show up and just like attack. And we're observing when this happens. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. That's kind of easy, dude. I know. What's going on? What are they fighting? Well, what you wonder is that,

26:48Sal Di Stefano:has it always kind of gone on and then we just happen to be kicked?

26:51Adam Schafer:Civil wars before. So that's why.

26:53Sal Di Stefano:Well, I know that like, so I've watched. Territorial. Yeah. As I say, like, I know they're like super territorial, even with like where on the tree. Like they could like certain there's like certain places.

27:04Justin Andrews:Yeah.

27:04Sal Di Stefano:There's a hierarchy of like where you are hanging out in the tree and stuff like that of like who's who.

27:10Adam Schafer:Apparently it says over there it happens once every 500 years. What? So this is like, go back, go back. There was an article. Maybe it's like their equivalent of like a world war. This is their apocalypse. This is their world war.

27:21Sal Di Stefano:And we know that because we have what?

27:25Adam Schafer:I mean, I guess maybe Explorers talk about it. Some Observer. So rare it only happens every 500. Yeah, click on that. How do they know it happened 500 years ago?

27:35Justin Andrews:Yeah. Shut up, Adam. They use carbon dating. Yeah.

27:40Sal Di Stefano:I'm like, they have like a carbon stone from 500 and then 1 ,000 in the 1 ,500 years? Because, I mean, that's kind of -

27:48Adam Schafer:The banana remains. Oh, my God. What does it say?

27:51Justin Andrews:we just throw shit out there and people just like yeah yeah well scientists say it happens every 500 years that must be true scientists say a lot of shit because all i know is what jane goodall but she was like gorillas right yes yeah i don't think she was with chimps but i mean there was there's definitely people observing the chimps but like to go back 500 years who knows yeah no

28:13Adam Schafer:yeah apparently it's just rare i guess let's just say that you know it's rare i don't know if i did Do you guys remember that woman? Dang. It was like 20 years ago. Do you guys remember the story of that woman that owned a chimp pet? She taught her how to speak?

28:27Justin Andrews:No. No, no. She let it sleep in bed with her. It was like her pet. Oh, yeah. The friend is like almost attacked her, right? Oh.

28:34Adam Schafer:Ripped her face off. It literally ripped her face off. Oh. She gave it wine and Xanax. Oh, yeah, yeah. Gave it this.

28:41Sal Di Stefano:That's a great idea.

28:42Justin Andrews:Like it's her girlfriend or son. you're watching some like soap opera he's just like

28:50Sal Di Stefano:rip your face off was that really what she gave it and that was a reaction total opposite of what she thought would happen yeah 2009

29:01Adam Schafer:his owner initially admitted to giving him the anti-anxiety medication in tea to calm him

29:08Justin Andrews:they're all wearing like cucumbers and face masks you take your sanny and it just got hella pissed just blew up in her face oh my god yeah dude it ripped her face off

29:22Adam Schafer:yeah yeah you know how strong they are dude yeah real strong bro what's the ratio i forgot oh no

29:27Justin Andrews:that's a picture of the chimp is that you know what that that fact you brought up the other day about hippos and their muscle mass yeah that that surprised me actually it's crazy yeah yeah

29:38Adam Schafer:If you give a chimp wine and drugs, I kind of feel like you're asking for it. Yeah, you're definitely opening up. Something crazy is about to happen. Is that her afterwards right there?

29:49Justin Andrews:Yeah. So she lived. She lived, but she had to have a facial reconstruction.

29:55Adam Schafer:I mean, it messed her up badly. Oh, it ripped off her arms too. Yeah. Oh, that's terrible. Oh, my goodness. Poor lady. Yeah, not good. Now, not to make this weird. Yikes. not to i know because now it's all sad it's horrible all right but not to make this weird but just speculating if at this point it ripped her face off and everything because he gave her one it's probably not the first time she gave the chimp no no apparently it would drink from long stem glasses do you think there was other stuff going on like do you think

30:25Justin Andrews:there's a little bit of a relationship you know what i mean so you know that the uh tiger king King had like a follow-up and they like documented like people that took in chimps and apes and all that kind of stuff. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't last very long. It just creeped me out like too much. Where is he at?

30:41Sal Di Stefano:Where is the tiger King?

30:42Justin Andrews:He's still in prison. Is he? Yeah. And he's talking trash. It's really funny actually. Like he's.

30:49Sal Di Stefano:Remember what an anomaly that is? Like that was like. I love tiger King.

30:53Justin Andrews:That was like a huge thing in COVID and gone away. Yeah. Just. It was just the perfect timing. There was nothing on TV at all to watch. That was like the only trash TV.

31:03Adam Schafer:There's a lot of things during COVID that I think we forgot on purpose. I think our brains made us forget some of the wildest. Tiger King carried us all through that. That was a very popular show back then. Arguably maybe the most popular. Carol Baskin, dude. Dude, you remember everything about that. He's not doing good. He's battling prostate and lung cancer. He had a 20-year sentence. Joe Exotic. Remember he had a boyfriend, but he's like, I'm not gay.

31:27Justin Andrews:yeah yeah he's the ultimate closer you guys you guys don't even touch him i'm not gonna try to compete oh yeah you got it guys did you guys see the guy uh

31:40Sal Di Stefano:turn team i saw that this came pop up in my feet the uh thaddeus uh what's his name thaddeus something that he's a he was a personator of um the guy from hangover oh so thaddeus vegas

31:53Justin Andrews:impersonator. Well, he's in Vegas. He's in Vegas.

31:55Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, Thaddeus is his first name. He impersonated the guy from Hangover. You know what I'm talking about? The beard?

32:01Adam Schafer:Who is that guy? Galifianakis? Thank you.

32:04Sal Di Stefano:And he had just lost his job, lost his relationship or marriage or whatever like that, and said he looked like him, flies to Vegas and literally makes like a quarter million a year impersonating him.

32:16Justin Andrews:Just wearing the same clothes?

32:18Adam Schafer:Yeah, that's him right there. Glasses and all that? He makes$250 ,000 a year just doing that? Yes. Look at it right there. But imagine he shows up at a party, dude. You'd be like, yeah. Oh, for sure.

32:27Sal Di Stefano:Like everybody goes wild, dude. Yeah, of course. Everybody's going like. That makes sense. Wow. You got to respect the game. Speaking of. Right? How much does he get paid to do that? A quarter million a year he made. What?

32:38Adam Schafer:Yes. And all he does is show up to pay. Yes.

32:41Sal Di Stefano:So if you read the article about it, it actually talks about like how much like his life has been a blur because of like all the party and stuff. Yes. He's just.

32:50Adam Schafer:He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. He's just. those dude. Speaking of impersonators, you guys saw that one guy. Remember how people were taking, there was a video taken of a guy in his car in Miami that looked just like Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, I didn't see that. You didn't? No. Okay. So people were filming this guy. There were clips of this guy in Miami. It was Epstein. They're like, he's alive.

33:11Justin Andrews:Yeah.

33:11Adam Schafer:Anyway, this guy shows up and he's like, I'm not Epstein. What's his name? Something Pete. It's like Miami Pete or something like that.

33:17Justin Andrews:Miami Pete, yeah.

33:18Adam Schafer:Find out what his name is. See what his name is it's not uh miami films video yeah miami pete i think his name was anyway now he's saying i'm not jeffrey epstein but now people are saying no you are and they're comparing pictures i see it right there next to it oh palm beach pete palm beach pete he says he used to party with epstein he did say weird bro what if it is yeah what a creep dude so there was a picture of him with a with a private jet and it's the same private jet as that so now the conspiracy theory is he actually is epstein but that's he doesn't look like he looks enough off from him

33:54Justin Andrews:so one and i i'm sure it's debunked but like there was like this video floating around of like uh uh so woody allen had like courtside seats i think it was like next game or something and in place of woody allen was literally jeffrey epstein sitting there just like chilling like the camera was on him and everything. When was it? Exactly. I think it was probably an old video that they're circulating like it was recent. That's my guess. But first, I was like, no way, dude. He's just popping up everywhere. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he's not dead. I mean, I don't, yeah. That's up for grabs as far as I'm concerned.

34:35Adam Schafer:All those people that are arrested with that? Yeah.

34:38Justin Andrews:Zero? So many.

34:39Adam Schafer:Anyway, let's change the subject. So, you know, I got to bring something up because this just came to mind because my cousin, I'm in a text thread with my cousins, and he's like, oh, this sucks, dude. He goes, just after the five-year warranty, it's like five years and a month after my stupid washing machine broke. Now I got to go buy a new one. So we started talking, and I'm like, were appliances just, did they just not break back in the day? Because I can recall appliances in my grandparents' house that were like 30, 40 years old that just lasted forever. Oh, I was 100.

35:12Sal Di Stefano:put our foil hats on with the conspiracy stuff. I 100 % think cars, phones, computers. Well, not cars. Cars last way longer. Cars last way longer. I feel like they last right to their warranty.

35:27Adam Schafer:And then they don't. Look at this. This is true. See, I told you. I looked it up. Appliances were generally sturdier, more durable, had longer lifespans. Yeah. In 1970s or 80s, what should we be seeing? Not good for profit margins. Might last 20 to 25 years. many modern appliances are built with shorter lifespans. Yeah.

35:43Sal Di Stefano:They're intentionally doing that. Faulty parts. Same thing with furniture. Yeah. You know, like old furniture. Have you ever picked up somebody who's like your grandparents, their furniture? They're heavy. Oh, my God, they're heavy. You pick up furniture today, it's like IKEA shit. It's like fake hollow wood. It's like not even real wood, but real like old furniture was like carved. And that's so durable. So the one that we have in our bedroom is over 100 years old. What is it? Our dresser.

36:12Adam Schafer:Oh, really?

36:13Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. Our dresser, and we refurbished it. It was passed down from Katrina's great-grandma into the family. Nothing solid. Oh, it looks brand new and looks beautiful. We pay to refurbish it, but it's like this sturdy, hard, solid, everything on it works perfect still. Wow.

36:30Adam Schafer:That's just the way it's built back there. You know what? I was reading up why they lasted so long, and it was because newer stuff today has all of this, like there's all these regulations on energy, like on how to conserve energy and water, and that makes them less durable. It was back then they were like, whatever. I would think things back then, too, were hand-built. Were they? Yeah. You're talking about how many years ago? In the 70s, 80s? Yeah. Maybe, maybe.

36:55Sal Di Stefano:I mean, I bet a lot of it was.

36:57Adam Schafer:But they lasted a long time, dude. My parents had appliances forever.

37:00Sal Di Stefano:I mean, everything's done all machine and slapped together now.

37:04Justin Andrews:Like with metal parts instead of like plastic parts or everything. And like, yeah, they chance out on a lot of these hinge points where it's like the wear of just opening and closing doors.

37:15Sal Di Stefano:And I honestly think the same way we talk about how food scientists have come in and engineered food to be so hyper palatable, I think you have people that have these companies that have been around forever have come in and they're like engineered it to precision of like, this is how long it needs to last. like if we want it needs to last right about this length

37:31Justin Andrews:simultaneously you have the repair business attached to it and that's the cars and like you can see that from appliances as well you don't find it

37:43Sal Di Stefano:suspicious that every time you pay your iPhone off it's not a stretch at all

37:48Justin Andrews:all of a sudden it starts acting up like crazy I swear somebody yeah it was a lawsuit that actually won yeah

37:56Sal Di Stefano:by the 8th time it happened to me it was pretty obvious.

37:59Justin Andrews:The first couple you got by me. yeah, each update just slowly gets worse. Yeah,

38:03Sal Di Stefano:but I think I've had 12 of those things and I'm like, by the eighth one, I was like, wait a second, every time I just finished the two-year payoff plan, it starts freezing. And then they figured out,

38:12Justin Andrews:they just like change up the plugs in the way that, you know. Oh, when you plug the chargers? Yeah, or they get rid of it or it's, Doug, look that up.

38:21Adam Schafer:You're killing me. Yeah, are they, yes, iPhones are designed with a limited lifespan through both technical software and marketing approaches. Leading to planned obsolescence.

38:31Justin Andrews:Planned obsolescence.

38:32Adam Schafer:Yeah, iPhone simply can become obsolete through a combination of slower performance, reduced battery life, and lack of support of new software updates after roughly five to seven years. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I guess. That sucks. Yeah. Well, especially when it's,

38:46Sal Di Stefano:you're talking, what is it up to now? Like a$1 ,300 or a$1 ,500 phone? Phones are something like that now, right? Is that how much they cost? Yeah, they're over 1 ,000. What are they, Doug? What's an iPhone? The new iPhones. I think you like$1 ,500. Yeah, I think they're$1 ,300 to$1 ,500. Wow. Probably$13.50. What is it now?

39:02Justin Andrews:It depends on which one you're getting. The 17 Pro Max is...

39:06Adam Schafer:$10.99 plus for the 17 Pro Max, but if you want more data or whatever.

39:09Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, I was going to say, that's the base. That's the base of that.

39:13Adam Schafer:You know what we just got at home?

39:14Sal Di Stefano:What?

39:15Adam Schafer:Landline? Yeah. Did you really? Yeah, but it's not a landline. So my wife... Those are long cords? Yes. So my wife is really trying to focus on figuring out ways to keep us from being on our phones. yeah okay and in particular a lot for the whole family but a lot for herself because she's at home she homeschools the kids and it's like uh you know i want it's such a pull it's so easy to just get on your phone she's very conscious of it so she bought a phone that you bluetooth to your phone you you lock your phone and then that's it and if somebody calls it rings on that phone yeah and since nobody ever calls yeah it doesn't go off and people know like you want to get a hold of her you can call her if it's that important you'll call me yeah and it's got the cord it's an old school with the cord you pick it up and so if i called her right now that's how she would answer and we talk on the phone and she'll tell me she's like all right i'm turning my phone off so i so i won't be able to get a hold of her a beeper huh yeah a pager yeah pager now that was the beginning of like people get a hold of you all the time was a pager i suppose i know we look like a bunch of drug dealers everybody in high school had a stupid beeper i had one we all had one for a minute just yeah just for a minute i had one for a long time oh so did i bro

40:23Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, I had one for a long time.

40:25Adam Schafer:What do we need it for? Nothing. Just my friends would hit me up. Just write code back with your girlfriend.

40:30Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. You know what I'm saying? One, four, three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your buddy's boobs.

40:34Adam Schafer:You know what I'm saying?

40:35Justin Andrews:That one a lot. 69, 69. Wow.

40:38Adam Schafer:Just a waste of time. Doug. Doug, did you ever use a beeper?

40:43Sal Di Stefano:Never did. He was too old for the time that it came out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Good job.

40:48Adam Schafer:How'd you guys get a hold of each other when you were kids?

40:51Justin Andrews:Walked and knocked on their door. Tony Express. pigeons Mike Tyson still smoke signals actually a bottle with

41:02Adam Schafer:a note in it

41:04Justin Andrews:oh yeah that was a thing you put the note in the ocean

41:08Adam Schafer:I hear that

41:09Sal Di Stefano:the schools are I think California is trying to pass laws right now with the with the phones at school

41:14Adam Schafer:yeah my daughter she has to put her phone in a Faraday bag when she gets there she does

41:17Sal Di Stefano:like literally a Faraday bag that's what they do at my kids school too so like all the kids when they walk How does that work? Drop them in. Like in the classroom or in like - No, as they get on campus. As soon as they get on campus. Yep. So there's like somebody there? You have to go ask for it if they want a message. But they have someone like policing the entry to the school? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And as you come in, give me your -

41:39Justin Andrews:Yeah, hand them over.

41:40Sal Di Stefano:And then someone's managing the thousand phones? I mean, I don't know how it all works, Adam. That's why I'm asking questions for the two dads that have kids in high school. They got bags, dude. That's all I know.

41:48Adam Schafer:You never thought to ask your kids these questions? Well, I don't know. I actually seen it. And they grab it and they put it in the bag. I don't care how they organize the business of it, Adam. I don't care. Doesn't that just strike you like a lot?

41:59Justin Andrews:They keep it like next to the classroom that they're going to. And so like the bag's there. And then they, you know, each, I guess the teacher's, you know, responsible for it. I don't know. And then passes them back out. I have no idea. Sounds like a lot of guessing over there.

42:13Sal Di Stefano:I've seen him do it. But I think it's great. I think it's awesome. No, I think it's great also.

42:19Adam Schafer:You see kids, otherwise they're all with each other, but on their phones.

42:22Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. Hopefully kids will get back to pranking the teachers where you get the universal remote and you mess with the TV. Oh, no. Yeah. That was a good time. That's what disrupting the class should look like now.

42:31Adam Schafer:Do you know what I taught my five-year-old, which I'm hoping he forgot, but we were in Legoland? You know, we were just having fun. And I'm like, oh, this is going to be hilarious. Let me teach him this. Spitballs. Oh. Remember Spitballs with a straw? You taught him that?

42:44Justin Andrews:Dude. That is not a good thing to teach. I bet Jessica's going to love that.

42:47Adam Schafer:So we were kind of shooting him a little bit.

42:49Justin Andrews:You know, flip boogers.

42:51Adam Schafer:And then I, like when I did, I was like, oh man, I hope he doesn't remember this. Like he's not going to remember.

42:57Sal Di Stefano:That's for sure. What do you remember? You know, kids? Oh yeah. For sure. Good memories.

43:02Adam Schafer:I got to talk about, uh, element because, um, I really got to give them credit on TV. Well, oh yeah. They're, they're doing an ad on TV. They're going to be on a commercial on TV. Yeah. There's a, there's, I show up for two seconds. Yeah. I saw the clip. They're like, someone said, you're in the new commercial. I'm like, I am. I looked at it. It's literally. I saw it. No, it doesn't even say my name, bro. It's like a flash and then goes someone else. Only person that will know it's me is my mom. She'll be watching. That looks like my son. Anyway, what they've done, and you'll see, every once in a while you'll see products or methods or whatever completely shift in industry.

43:36Adam Schafer:But what they did is crazy. They single-handedly completely shifted and changed the fear around sodium. It was Element. Element did it. but up until element everybody was still afraid of sodium it's bad for you don't have too much electrolyte drinks had like a sprinkle of sodium and people who understand electrolytes like if you need electrolytes if you're sweating a lot if you're actually drinking this because you need the electrolyte you need it all you need a lot of sodium that's the main thing that you need not like 100 milligrams but like a thousand milligrams element single-handedly uh because they had they were very brave they put a thousand milligrams per serving and it crushed and now everybody's

44:15Sal Di Stefano:copying them well you know this you know the origin story of that is rob wolf and his training and stuff like that yeah he was doing his jiu-jitsu he was strength training and he was doing other diet yeah he was on the paleo diet so yeah so he was it was just completely depleted and so and then he looked at the space nobody had enough sodium in the products so he went out and created it and it's absolutely exploded everybody's followed that why do you think that why do you think we still have some popular fitness influencers that shit on electrolytes then

44:43Adam Schafer:I mean, I guess if you're comparing it to something like creatine, it's not like this miraculous.

44:49Sal Di Stefano:I mean, they don't even say that. They say, oh, electrolytes are a waste of money. If they were to go down a list of supplements that are a waste of money.

44:55Adam Schafer:No. Look, here's the deal. If you're sweating a lot, if you're training intensely, if you're on a low-carb diet, you're using a sauna.

45:03Sal Di Stefano:I would say even if you're on a whole food diet, if you're eating whole foods, most people do not salt their food. If you eat all whole foods, no processed foods, You eat a whole food diet, and that's the only source of sodium that you get is through that, and you train.

45:18Justin Andrews:That's probably why, because those influences are all in those processed protein shakes and bars and everything else.

45:25Adam Schafer:Well, here's the deal. Again, there are certain people that will notice radical improvements in their performance from using high-sodium electrolyte. You sweat a lot. If you're a blue-collar worker and you work outside all the time, you'll notice a big difference. if you're a low carb or no carb diet, you'll notice the keto flu, that was because you needed electrolytes.

45:45Justin Andrews:Or even just holding a little bit more intracellular water, like you get a performance boost.

45:49Adam Schafer:But here's the other thing, and this is the behavioral part of it. This is what I love as a trainer. You show me all the science you want. I don't care. Here's what I see now in real life. I have enough family members that use Element to now notice that because they like the way it tastes and it has no calories, sodium is an ingredient in palatability. so when you drink, when you put an element pack into your water, there's no sodium sorry, there's sodium but there's no artificial sweeteners, no sugar. There's stevia in there. But the sodium with the stevia makes it taste really good Sodium is an ingredient in palatability Here's what I noticed.

46:22Adam Schafer:People drink more water All my friends that use element

46:25Sal Di Stefano:They all drink way more water Did you guys get your care package? The pink lemonade? Oh, is that good? You know for April Fool's they did the whole pink lemonade like yeah yeah the april fool's thing but then that obviously they did that to roll out and kick out the pink lemonade and the pink lemonade is really good yeah if you haven't had it yet it's really delicious it's really good they've man they've hit a home run the pineapple one the pink lemonade one the grapefruit one here's why they crushed they crushed for two

46:54Adam Schafer:reasons one one they changed the narrative based on the real data and science the fear around sodium is totally overrated number one number two athletes that need it notice a big difference but here's the big one number three so salt is an ingredient in making things palatable they have created a zero calorie drink that people are like i love the way this tastes now the company's exploded it is a lot of people drink element not because they need electrolytes like the way it tastes yeah and it encourages them to drink more water because it tastes so

47:23Sal Di Stefano:good i have when i i use our my sauna and in the in the hot tub well then it makes oh yeah for sure If I don't, I will get a headache. Oh, I 100 % use it. If I do not do that, I'll get a headache from that for sure. And there's also that, right? Didn't we look this up recently?

47:41Justin Andrews:My stamina is terrible if I don't do that before. I was hiking in Palm Desert. Yeah, of course. It was like 85, 90 degrees, and I was just like, oh, die. And then I drank one. It was like, it's so much different.

47:54Sal Di Stefano:The last time we talked about, Elma, didn't you bring up, or didn't we have Doug look up the individual variants of people that actually sweat out.

48:02Adam Schafer:Some people sweat a lot more.

48:03Sal Di Stefano:A lot, like a significant amount.

48:04Justin Andrews:It's like 10X for some people.

48:06Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, so which is also where I think they get these people, like I asked you, it's like maybe you're somebody who doesn't impact you that much where there's a percentage of people that I guarantee it makes a huge difference. I know for sure I'm one of those people.

48:21Adam Schafer:I know this. As a trainer, back in the day, one of the more difficult things, challenges that I would have with clients, sounds silly. Indehydry. We just got to drink enough water. And I remember as a trainer thinking it was so dumb, but I saw it so many times. I'm like, this is a common issue. Had I had something like Element, that for sure would have encouraged. If I gave them a big thing of it in our workout. That's why crystal light exploded. It's just because it's a flavor. Totally.

48:47Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, 0.5 to 2 liters per hour during exercise. What a difference. For sweat, total sweat. Yeah, yeah.

48:53Adam Schafer:Dude, I got a company. You're going to love this company. And you might have seen companies like this before, but my wife shared this with me, and I think it's brilliant. Doug, type in Nuuly, N-U-U-L-Y. This is one of many companies that are doing this. So this is a company that you could pay a fee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You pay a fee. My niece does this. So I think you could pay$99 a month. Yeah, yeah. And you get six outfits a month.

49:18Sal Di Stefano:There's a ton of companies that do this. There's companies that do this, by the way, with Stitch Fix. There's companies that do this with high-end brands. So you can get, like, you want, like, a$1 ,000 dress from, let's take a name brand. and they send you a trunk with all of that. And you basically, you keep what you want, you return what you want and you can get, you can get stuff that's used. That's like, like somebody who's, who's, who's sent this out. So there's so many companies that do this, but this is for rental. Yeah. Huh? This is rental. So this is, well,

49:47Adam Schafer:you should pay 99 bucks a month.

49:48Sal Di Stefano:Yeah.

49:49Adam Schafer:You get six, uh, items sent to you. You pick whatever you want every month.

49:53Sal Di Stefano:Yeah.

49:54Adam Schafer:So, so here, and my wife was explaining to me, and then she got on the phone and she told me about, I'm like, honey, do you spend that much per month? on clothes and we went back and forth and she's she made a couple good points she's like you know there's a lot of things i'll buy i'll wear them once or twice and they'll stay in the closet yeah forever she goes something like this i could have very few clothes in the closet and and there's there's different packages there there's one where you could do like three things a month which is less and you'll pick three things they'll send it to you now you got three six outfits or whatever especially if you work well this is just like the one that this is what

50:22Sal Di Stefano:uh mark randolph talked about remember he gives the analogy of the girl and he talks about like her idea with that. You borrow my clothes. Yeah, you borrow clothes. I like the one where you, so you basically you pay a monthly fee, like similar. I don't know what the price was. And there's lots of different brands that do this. And they send you a trunk every month. And you keep what you want to keep.

50:43Adam Schafer:But they pick what they send you.

50:44Sal Di Stefano:No, no, you can pick too. Oh, yeah. They have a catalog like this and you go like, I want to try this, this, this, and this. And you get to try. You can keep all of it. You can keep none of it.

50:53Justin Andrews:Some of them you can provide like a tailor to you. Yes. Yeah, they actually coach you.

50:56Sal Di Stefano:And some of them are like these really high-end brands. So if you like want to, like before you spend$1 ,000 on this outfit, you get it, try it on, wear it. And if you like it, you don't.

51:06Adam Schafer:So when I was thinking about something like this, so let's say you did something, because after we got off the phone, because I kind of poo-pooed it at first when I was on the phone with her. But I thought more and more, I'm like, okay, you imagine you are a professional. Like you work an office job and you have to wear professional clothes. Like you could pay$99 a month. It's a write-off. It's a write-off. and you get six new outfits every month or whatever. I'm like, this is kind of brilliant. I wonder how well these companies are doing.

51:32Sal Di Stefano:I mean, you have to know they're doing great because there's so many of them.

51:35Adam Schafer:Yeah.

51:36Sal Di Stefano:I mean, I didn't know any of the ones. I didn't know that one, but I've seen already multiple ones myself.

51:42Justin Andrews:Courtney's been doing this one for a long time. Has she? She does it? Uh-huh.

51:45Adam Schafer:Yeah. I bet. Are there any for guys?

51:47Sal Di Stefano:Probably not.

51:47Justin Andrews:Yes, yeah, there is.

51:48Sal Di Stefano:There are.

51:48Justin Andrews:I haven't done it because I'm kind of partial to buying my own shit.

51:52Adam Schafer:I wouldn't wear six different outfits every month. I just wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Adam would.

51:57Sal Di Stefano:No, this is not my style, though, to do it. Yeah, I prefer to put my stuff together. Yeah. I'd rather go mix match. That's all the fun, right? Yeah, and it's also my style. So I don't want somebody styling me.

52:12Justin Andrews:Hey, do you put your clothes on your bed? Well, you know what's interesting about that? Yeah. I look at people in two different ways. So you're either a Pandora person or you're a Spotify person. Oh. That being like I'm curating my playlist. versus somebody else's curing it for you. Activate, yeah. Versus just, oh, hey, spoon feed it to me.

52:30Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, I'm a Spotify person all day long. It's the exact same thing, too. Yeah, I want to pick -

52:35Adam Schafer:So do you do that before work? Do you put, like, on your bed? Do you put, like, your shirt and your pants? I try to.

52:39Sal Di Stefano:So I always -

52:40Adam Schafer:And this is the day before that you do it?

52:41Sal Di Stefano:I don't always do it, especially now the way my closet is designed, I don't need to because of the way it's organized. But I try to do that because it saves me time in the morning. Yeah. If I lay my outfit out the night before, then it, like, saves me 15 minutes. Otherwise, what will happen sometimes is I go, ah, what do I feel?

52:57Adam Schafer:Do you spend a lot of time on your outfit for the next day? No, definitely not.

53:00Sal Di Stefano:No, no, no. Sometimes in the morning I'll look at it, but nah, then I'll change it. Yeah, I try. It makes a difference when I do it. It saves me time in the morning. I'll get to work 15 minutes early by having it already laid out.

53:12Adam Schafer:It's been a huge hack for me.

53:13Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, it is. It's a hack.

53:15Adam Schafer:You know what's my favorite thing? Does your mom still lay yours up? Yeah, sure. Have her come over.

53:22Justin Andrews:Mom's face time. Is this a good mom? What should I wear?

53:24Adam Schafer:my wife won't do it for me I wish she would we go to like functions you know like family functions and she's like she knows what she's wearing and everything and I'll be like what am I wearing she's like I don't know damn girl like you're supposed to pick out my clothes I don't know what I'm supposed to I do it for Katrina you pick her she gets telematics

53:41Sal Di Stefano:you know I can't even compliment my wife the way she looks you're just complimenting yourself oh you're really put together yeah yeah you look how do you yesterday I told her you look hot you look hot yesterday she's like you're only saying that because everything I'm wearing is everything you dude

53:54Adam Schafer:Dude, how funny was that yesterday? I did a good job. What were we talking about where Adam is like low-key trying to get us to compliment him? Remember? Yesterday, the meeting was great. It was about knowing the business number so well. Yeah, he said a couple. He knows his number sometimes perfect. First it came out, and I already thought it. I'm like, wow, that's pretty interesting. I was like thinking about it. I was going to say something about it. And you said a couple comments because you were like, can someone like recognize that I accurately predict?

54:18Sal Di Stefano:I gave you. And finally he said it. He claimed. He's weirdo. Both Sal and Coutinho. Accurate I am all time. Sal and Katrina both claimed that they were going to say something. Bullshit, you both were. I gave you plenty of opportunity to go like, damn, bro, you were so brilliant. I cannot believe how brilliant you are. I say that to you all the time, dude. He's like, I'm going to give it to myself. It'll work. That was great.

54:39Adam Schafer:I love letting my three-year-old dress herself. That's the best.

54:43Sal Di Stefano:Oh, wow. That's amazing, dude. That's funny.

54:46Justin Andrews:Does she sometimes wear like galoshans?

54:49Adam Schafer:Bro, she'll come out with it. a tutu and a rain jacket and like shoes and then she just comes out she's like ready to go so do

54:59Sal Di Stefano:either one of you see your yourself and your kids when it comes to that type of stuff like does one of your kids like totally not care like you know are that or there's one of your kids that like that's how they would dress is how you dress like do you see that in either of your my son my five

55:13Adam Schafer:year old is is kind of stereotypical like he'll wear a shirt because he likes the like it's godzilla like I'm going to wear this shirt or something like that.

55:20Sal Di Stefano:Yeah.

55:20Adam Schafer:My daughter, she likes that too, but she's eclectic. She'll go and like put her clothes together. And my son, you got to kind of like, go get dressed, dude. Like you're in your pajamas. Go put a shirt on. Oh, yeah.

55:33Sal Di Stefano:Max wore pajamas all day. Yeah, dude. He's actually really particular about what he wears. Like he'll, he's, I think it's hilarious. Like you. Yeah. He's got that. It's like Katrina always, Christ, he's like, your son is too much. Like, I don't want to wear that. It doesn't look good. It doesn't look right at that. or he'll tell her go ask daddy if I can do that really yeah yeah she'll call me in she goes Max wants to know if he can wear these sweats with this shirt like yeah yeah that looks good then he'll okay I'll wear it that's hilarious

55:57Adam Schafer:and my three year old she watches this show called Super Kitties so there's like these little cats that are like superheroes have you seen it Max watches it okay

56:05Sal Di Stefano:yeah yeah alright I'm not a fan of it why? it's a good show it's a girl show yeah it's a girl show he's got two shows that one and then the other one that I don't like that's like a kid's a girl's kid I'm like whatever dude

56:17Adam Schafer:let him watch it well you don't say that too no i don't say that to him i'm like he'll i'm just

56:21Sal Di Stefano:like what do you want to watch because we don't watch a lot and then it gravitates that i'm like really of all the things we can watch that's what we're gonna watch well anyway well we'll play i'll

56:29Adam Schafer:put edm on and then my kids like to run and i chase them to edm it's this thing we've been doing since they were really little but my daughter it's you know what it is a they'll wait for the drop they'll be like they'll wait for the drop and then they'll take off but my daughter will run she'll jump and she'll land in this weird position and stay in this like down position and i was trying to figure out like what is she doing most italian thing

56:59Sal Di Stefano:chasing your kids to edm for sure it is wide beater too

57:06Adam Schafer:but she'll stay in this like down position i'm like what are you doing i'm like oh she's in like superhero position. You know when they land? Oh, yeah. Yeah, and she'll just wait. She'll just sit there and wait. I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, I have superpowers.

57:17Sal Di Stefano:All right, let's go. He made the mistake of doing, like, I remember when I, like, doing something that they love that you're like, now you're just trapped into doing it all the time. You're like, I did this. I remember when I, I'm so glad Max finally grew out of it because we did it for I don't know how many years. But at one point, we had, like, those little, you know, kind of laser light things that they were part of some Christmas thing or Easter I have no idea but we had them laying around and I put on music in the closet and you know oh yeah yeah yeah dance party you know we have a dance party closet it was like oh god I had to do that for every day for at least a year and a half two years and I remember like god let this trend end please like thought it was so cute and fun when I did it the one time you know I'm saying and then it became a thing like all the time to do that yeah have you got have you figured

58:02Adam Schafer:out like a lazy way to like play yeah when you lay down and play that's like the whole building

58:07Justin Andrews:fort thing was like great it's like such a hack you know like on the weekends we'd like build for every weekend every day and then it was just this huge mess in our living room that was always just couch cushions and stuff yeah oh yeah and everything was all yeah disheveled and yes dude and i love it because they were like would they be sitting in there you know like coloring or

58:28Adam Schafer:whatever yeah it's just like oh it's a blast i love doing that stuff yeah it makes a big mess But, you know, like this morning, my son and my wife were eating breakfast. And he's like, buh-buh, come here. I want you here. Give me a hug. And he wouldn't let me go to work. He's like, give me a hug. No, stay here. And I'm kind of like, oh, I got to go, buddy. And she looks at me. She's like, he's not going to be doing this forever. Like, she reminds me. Oh, there's a, I saw this. He's not going to, it's true.

58:53Sal Di Stefano:I saw this great clip on Instagram, to your point you're making right now. And it was an exercise that we all should do. And it was basically pretending to be the 75-year-old you writing a letter to the 46 or whatever you are right now about your day and everything like that. And the letter goes like, start it from the morning, get up. My son comes running in and writing a letter to yourself of all these things and those moments. And it's just like, there's obviously going to come a time when he doesn't run in your room anymore and jump on your bed. And it's like, you may find it annoying sometimes when it's 6 o 'clock in the morning and you just want to sleep.

59:29Sal Di Stefano:but it's like there's going to be a time when you're like, man, I wish that was happening right now.

59:33Justin Andrews:So giving tree, fuck, man, kills me.

59:35Sal Di Stefano:Chills you.

59:37Adam Schafer:I'm so depressed when I read that. Even just hugging and holding your son. At some point, your teenage son isn't going to want to just hug dad all the time.

59:44Justin Andrews:Yeah.

59:44Adam Schafer:I sneak him, dude, still.

59:46Justin Andrews:Do you still do? Or does it turn into wrestling, though?

59:48Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, probably. Who are the two boys is most likely to cuddle up next to you and watch a movie?

59:55Justin Andrews:Everett.

59:56Sal Di Stefano:Everett is. He's the youngest.

59:57Justin Andrews:is it just because he's the youngest or is you yeah he's i mean we hang out probably the most like he's most like me in terms of like what i like to watch on tv or like what i like to do like so it's yeah but you know i'll find my way i actually personally like go into ethan's room the most like i go in there to try to you know get in his world but we're not like i i'm into a lot of what he's into but like it's just easy like ever it's kind of always do you go into

1:00:26Adam Schafer:Ethan's room and like, like just have to sit there a little bit and wait for like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Teenagers are like that.

1:00:32Justin Andrews:Yeah. We got, yeah. But I mean, he's, it's a lot easier now because I've been consistently more like, you know, kind of inserting myself into his world in there and trying to understand. But yeah, it's, it's taking work, dude. Like, cause it comes, it was funny cause it comes easy to Courtney and him have a real tight relationship and it's, you know, and they've had that ever since he was like real little. So it was like.

1:00:53Sal Di Stefano:Do you attribute it to that? Was there a moment in time where you felt like you consciously went, oh, I need to actively go seek that? I felt it. Do you remember how old he was or at what point you had to really start doing that where it's like, oh, wow, if I don't start doing this. Probably 14, 15 years ago, yeah.

1:01:12Adam Schafer:Because they start hanging out on their own.

1:01:14Justin Andrews:Yeah. Once he started isolating himself in his room, that's where I really started to kind of come in.

1:01:19Sal Di Stefano:I'm sure there's probably a little bit too. There's a part of you that wants to give him space, but then at the same time you probably you probably wrestle a little bit with that initially

1:01:27Justin Andrews:yeah yeah i mean i yeah i didn't want to intrude uh i tried to yeah come in like and just ask him questions and like try to be excited about what if he's working on something or if he's like playing a game like that's the thing too about like you know it's a hard thing to balance when it's like you want like exactly what's perfect like in terms of screen time or like if you're playing video games or you're doing this or but but also too like you know you want to understand they have interests and then like like peer into that why why do you like this and then he explains the whole thing and then it's it i don't know it gives it a little more uh context for me it's

1:02:06Adam Schafer:crazy because when i was a kid so i i never had a relationship with my dad where we like talk like we sit and talk about things right and i remember it wasn't actually not that long ago i was talking with somebody and it hit me like a like a truck i was like my dad used to take me to work with him and make me do work with him because that's how he bonded with me he didn't know how to bond with his kids with his sons in particular any other way because that's what he knew as a kid because he worked yeah and he would take me out to the backyard he'd take me out to go to on construction sites to work and that's how he bonded uh with us because there was a period there when i was a kid i wasn't helping him like you know 11 how much can you help your dad when you're 10 yeah more than anything i'm kind of getting his way right but he took me anyway and it was because that's how he knew how to bond which is not what you think when you're 10 you think it's like his burden or he just wants me to learn how to work yeah reality is my this is my dad's attempt at bonding sure with his kid i remember when i when he hit me like a truck i was like oh dang that would be really i think about this a lot because i because max is only

1:03:06Sal Di Stefano:going to be seven right so like what's he going to be like when he hits those teenage years with the way he has his relationship with katrina and i there's certain things that i'm like i think i that's obvious, right? Like, I think when it comes to, like, emotional stuff or where he's sharing something, I think probably that he's going through, he's more likely to probably go to his mom. I have a feeling that that...

1:03:25Adam Schafer:I don't know, bro, because you're pretty good at that. You're pretty good at talking to guys in that way. I think when he's a teenage boy, he might want to talk to dad.

1:03:35Sal Di Stefano:I don't know. That's why I think about it a lot. It's like you're a closed guy.

1:03:38Justin Andrews:That's a good point. Like, I actually got closer to Ethan as he became a teenager

1:03:43Adam Schafer:because he didn't want mom's advice in a lot of other directions. And you're not like the kind of guy that's closed. Yeah, no, I'm definitely not, and we're super tight, right?

1:03:52Sal Di Stefano:So we're super tight and closed. I just say that because I think I noticed, like, for example, when he went and did the soccer thing, he was expressing to his mom, he was concerned that I saw him cry. You know what I'm saying? So there's definitely a side of him that's more open to showing the vulnerability and being okay with that, where I'm more trying to get him to dust it off and keep going. There's no reason for us to cry about that. Come on, keep going type of deal. And so I wonder if when it comes to things like that, that he's more emotional or scared or about, will he be vulnerable enough to share me or does he want to not show that side?

1:04:29Sal Di Stefano:So it'll be interesting to see that as it unfolds. You're right though. I mean, I feel like I definitely -

1:04:34Adam Schafer:Yeah, you're not going to be one of those dads that's like -

1:04:36Sal Di Stefano:No, I communicate with him. Yeah, that's your personality. And we're very, very close. And so, but I do expect that there's going to be, at some point, he's going to gravitate to each of us for different things, right? Like, I mean, I think we both are close to him, but it'll be. One-on-one time is super important because there's a dynamic with the family, which is good, but there's a different dynamic when you, like I just experienced it with my daughter and even my five-year-old.

1:05:01Adam Schafer:When you go off with just them. No, 100%.

1:05:04Sal Di Stefano:It's a totally different dynamic. This is something that we've continued to foster since he was very little. We call it boys' day. Probably once a month.

1:05:14Adam Schafer:Aurelius calls it just the men's.

1:05:15Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, yeah. It's a dedicated day that it's just him and I. My goal is to always maintain that. You know what I'm saying? If I do hopefully do a good job of doing that as he ages, it keeps that.

1:05:29Adam Schafer:Did I tell you guys what Aurelius is starting? I have to walk him back because he likes to do this thing Will he like jump on you out of nowhere? And I love it. He jumps on me out of nowhere. We wrestle. But he does it to his mom and he hurts her. You know, because he's getting big now, right? He'll jump on her. She gets, you can't do that to me. And so I tell him like, you can't do that to your mom. Yeah. You can't do that to your older sister. Because my 16 year old, he'll do it to her too. You can't do that to, you know, our niece who's 18. I said, you know, you can do that to me. I said, you got to be more soft and gentle with women.

1:05:58Adam Schafer:So now of course she's like, you know, mom, women are weak. So I can't do that. I'm like, uh-oh, that's not what I said. That's not what I said, dude. Do you think we said that? Yeah. I can't jump on your mom because women are weak. I like Katrina.

1:06:11Sal Di Stefano:Like Katrina, she puts the brakes on that real quick with him because he'll get like that. He'll show, hey, you do that with your dad. You don't do that with me. She stops it really fast. Rough house stuff, that's your dad. You don't rough house with mom. You know what I'm saying? So she stopped that early on like that. I don't say anything.

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1:07:16Justin Andrews:First question is from FitLife with Jen 13. Does strength training when you're pregnant correlate to strong babies?

1:07:23Adam Schafer:Yeah, this is a great question. So I actually looked up studies on this. There's not a lot of studies on this specific thing, but there are studies on health. And what they find is when mom is fit and healthy, when she exercises, babies tend to be healthier and more resilient. Now there is some evidence, very little, but some evidence.

1:07:47Sal Di Stefano:You have to be programming those epigenetics.

1:07:48Adam Schafer:I would just, so we'll get there. Cause I agree. We'll speculate there. But there is some evidence that if you train for endurance or for strength or whatever, that you may actually create a child that has more of those adaptations. Personally, it makes sense to me. Because, okay, so we have good evidence on this. What a mother will eat will actually influence a baby's palate and what foods they actually start to crave. It makes sense because when the baby's in utero, it is adapting to what potential environment it may come into, okay? So really stressed out mom, baby becomes more hypervigilant, right?

1:08:28Adam Schafer:calm environment baby becomes more calm uh i i believe that if the if the mom is strength training the signal that's being sent to the baby is we're going to be lifting heavy things the whatever the environment that we're being born into requires more strength so uh we're probably going to turn on the genetics uh or move the genetics in a direction that uh contribute to more strength so i definitely i would say i would i would i would bet money i I believe this.

1:08:53Sal Di Stefano:I 100 % believe that this plays a role, both the nutrition, exercise.

1:08:58Adam Schafer:It doesn't override overall genetics.

1:09:00Sal Di Stefano:I also think that what you said about calm and stress is paramount too. Oh, for sure. They know that. I think maybe arguably even more important than being strong during your pregnancy would be maintaining calmness. I just think that plays a huge role in the kid.

1:09:21Justin Andrews:Well, just seeing too, like how the mother's milk changes, like depending upon like their needs and like their deficiencies and all of that, it adjusts on the fly. Isn't that wild?

1:09:33Adam Schafer:Yeah. When a baby's sick, it's like the body senses it when they put their mouth on the back. It's different from the morning to the night. It's different.

1:09:39Justin Andrews:I mean, that's not out of the question to think that they'd pass the line.

1:09:44Adam Schafer:But I'll say this. So here's the, I guess the hesitation, right? don't think as a mom like i'm gonna go crazy with strength training to produce this like super you could very easily overdo it has to be appropriate um and we talk about this all time with strength training during pregnancy and you're the prs that happens before pregnancy maintaining during pregnancy you're training in a very smart appropriate way and the main thing you should focus on is uh uh is this going to help me with my delivery and my postpartum recovery. That's the most important thing to consider with your exercise routine.

1:10:20Adam Schafer:Next question is from Cornell FG82.

1:10:24Justin Andrews:Do you lose an adaptation when you start a new phase with a new focus?

1:10:29Adam Schafer:Yeah, to an extent. To an extent you do. Not a lot, or not all of it. But if you always train, let's say, in the one to three rep range, and then you move to a phase where you're training the 20 rep range will you lose some adaptation to that one to three rep range you will because there's a skill involved percentage of it yes for sure you're not losing a ton of it so small

1:10:52Sal Di Stefano:though i mean this is kind of the conversation that we had earlier about uh you know encouraging people to do novel stimulus like there's this fear and this is where this comes from of like you know if i stop you know focusing on you know bench fat bench press and i go do this you know dumbbell you know incline press all the time will i not be able to bench press very well it's like i mean you might see a small for temporary as soon as you get back to that it'll you'll get that and some back um so there's a small step back but it's very very small and it's and it's in pursuit

1:11:21Adam Schafer:of taking two steps forward you know yeah and exactly i think this only matters if you're training for a specific lift or a specific type of sport uh like you're going to compete and your lift is the squat you might not want to move away from that particular squat uh at least not before competition because you want to lose any adaptation to it. But I mean, I experienced this recently. I recently started deadlifting relatively regularly. I'd say like once a week or once every week. And when I'm feeling pretty strong in my deadlift historically, I'll pull 550, 560. My best was of all time was 605, but 550, 560, I'm doing pretty well.

1:11:59Adam Schafer:And I hadn't deadlifted for a long time, but I was doing box squats. I was doing lots of other exercises. So I started pulling again and within i don't know like five weeks five or six weeks i could i was up to be able to pull 550 i was able to get it back up there but week one was like 500 so there definitely was a difference

1:12:16Justin Andrews:sure sure next question is from the fit life lawyer how effective do you think a workout

1:12:22Adam Schafer:program written by ai is this is a good question and this is becoming more relevant uh by the day

1:12:30Sal Di Stefano:Interesting to hear you. Yeah. I think the, so this is, it depends on how savvy you are with AI. Yeah. Because I think that the prompting, this is what we talk about too, the future of using AI, it hinges on your ability to prompt it. Yeah. Because I've seen terrible advice come from AI, and then I've seen wonderful advice come from the AI.

1:12:53Justin Andrews:Well, your bias dictates it.

1:12:54Sal Di Stefano:Exactly. And so if you don't know how to prompt it correctly, or simply saying like, produce me a workout, blah, blah, blah. If you do a generic prompt like that, then you're going to get a generic workout. But if you know how to prompt it really well. Like 49-year-old female,

1:13:13Adam Schafer:I've worked this many hours, I sleep this much, here's my hormone pump up, I have a bad hip or whatever. Right. Then you might get better.

1:13:21Justin Andrews:You're feeding a ton of data. Yeah, very specific to you. It's awesome.

1:13:24Sal Di Stefano:I've played around with it and seen what I can do with it. But I'm prompting it And I'm prompting it from the perspective of a trainer's mind. Yeah. And so I think you can get great stuff off of it.

1:13:36Adam Schafer:You know, here's the thing, too. I mean, you can get free workout. You've been able to get free workouts online for a long time. So I don't think this is like some huge. It's not a breakthrough. No, it's not. It's better than you guessing, I guess. But here's what it won't do. It will not replace a personal trainer. the value of a personal trainer is not that they write you a good workout that's not the value that's like one little thing that they do the big value is their ability to guide and coach you and adjust on the fly and know how to guide you like a smart guide taking you through this journey of fitness um and until ai is indistinguishable from a human and looks like a human and gives you that same contact and connection all that stuff uh it's just not going to come close to

1:14:21Sal Di Stefano:By the way, too, I mean, I'm on this kick ever since I heard that interview with the diary CEO. It's not really AI who's writing that program. It's the Internet's ability to scour the Internet of all the data of other smart trainers that have put out all this information. And it's aggregating all that and giving you a smart end up. Yeah, that's it. It's just that's what it's. So you could technically, to your point, Google search and find right before AI a good workout program that for free. 100 percent you can. So that's how the AI got it from that. It's just, it's scouring. Ripped it off, yeah.

1:14:56Sal Di Stefano:It's scouring the internet for you and it'll hopefully get you the good one if you prompt it correctly. If you don't prompt it correctly, it might just get you the most popular, the most searched or the most shared one. And so how you prompt it will dictate how good of a program that already exists on the internet that you will actually receive. I mean, here's the deal.

1:15:15Adam Schafer:If someone asked me to write them a program and I didn't have the opportunity to train them, right? So I'm not their trainer. I'm just talking to them and say, hey, I'd like a good workout for me. I'm going to ask them a lot of questions before I can give them a workout. I'm not just going to be like, here's a good workout for you.

1:15:30Justin Andrews:Yeah, exactly.

1:15:31Adam Schafer:It's going to be like, okay, well, tell me about your lifestyle. Tell me about your goals. What's your past history of exercise? What does your sleep look like? How about your diet? What's your age? And then I'm going to write out a more accurate or appropriate workout. Even though it's a general workout, that's going to be good for them.

1:15:48Justin Andrews:Well, that's what's interesting about AI too. It's not asking you all those questions. You have to literally insert that every step of the way. That's what the prompting I mean by that. People don't know. They don't know what they don't know.

1:15:59Sal Di Stefano:Right. What you're alluding to is that your trainer brain knows what to ask. All the right questions before. If someone said, give me a workout program to build the most strength, and you wouldn't just go like, oh, here it is. I would never do that. You would go, tell me about your sleep. That's your experience. Yeah, tell me about your sleep. tell me about what you do uh during the day like what's your work life look like what's your stress level what's your calorie i mean you'd ask a whole host of questions and then you from those you would give the best generic workout program that you could give that person and so that the person that's prompting the ai needs to know those questions that that trainer would ask them in order to prompt it efficiently to get something that is really good and yes you could if you knew how to do that.

1:16:43Sal Di Stefano:But if you don't, then, you know, I mean, just Google search, you know, top 10 workouts. Same thing.

1:16:49Justin Andrews:Next question is from Matthew in this with your guys. I've identified an imbalance in my hips. That's throwing off my form during lower body exercises and causing back pain. What can I do to correct this imbalance and stop further injury?

1:17:04Adam Schafer:Yeah. I was going to say without knowing the specific, um, type of like where the pain is, watching your technique and form, noticing the imbalance or seeing what the imbalance looks like. It's hard for me to give you specific, impossible for me to give you specific advice. That being said, unilateral exercise, uh, is a great kind of catch all. Um, it does a pretty remarkable job at solving these issues, uh, for people when they go to do as unilateral exercise, start with the good side and then try to copy that with the bad side. Um, and then from then on use the bad side.

1:17:38Justin Andrews:It would expose all the compensations. And so it becomes more clear and obvious where you're instable, which you're going to be weak in those areas, which we need to strengthen. So, you know, it too, just like that split stance or, you know, just being able to control your body from that perspective, then you go back to bilateral stance and it's like you're reinforced.

1:18:01Sal Di Stefano:So, I mean, you're right. We don't have a lot or enough information to give like precise or perfect, but I'll give you some pretty spot on advice that I think if you follow, you'll see a significant difference. And that is get really good at 90 nineties and the, and the discrepancy from the left to the right. Cause what I can guess right away without seeing you do 99 is you're going to probably notice on one side, you're way more proficient than the other side. So work at getting those equally balanced out in your 90 nineties and work through map symmetry. You do those two things. And I bet you, we, we make a huge progress in this direction.

1:18:36Adam Schafer:Yep. Look, if you like Mind Pump, come find us on Instagram. It's Mind Pump Media. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body,

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