2923: The Exact Formula to Build the Most Muscle You've Ever Built in 90 Days

16:43Sal Di Stefano:You also want to keep, like you said, keep those core lifts so you can see yourself really progressing. You do 90 days of benching, squatting, deadlifting, and all you're manipulating is the rep ranges in that. You're going to see some serious progression in that.

16:55Adam Schafer:Huge. Next, you got to eat a lot. You want to build muscle. You got to feed your body, but eat clean. So these two things go head to head because here's what tends to happen. Somebody eats clean but doesn't eat a lot, or somebody eats garbage so they can eat a lot, and then they end up gaining a lot of body fat. If you eat whole natural foods and really try to feed yourself, every few hours have a meal. Every three hours eat a full meal of whole natural foods. Your satiety will naturally prevent you from eating so much food that you're going to gain a ton of body fat. But you will eat enough to build muscle.

17:30Adam Schafer:You will eat enough food to do that.

17:31Sal Di Stefano:I mean, again, this is the mistake that this was less of a focus for me. It was more on the training. And this is where the muscle is built. The eating and getting your body what it needs in order to build that tissue is where the real muscle is.

17:44Adam Schafer:Well, what I did, my mistake for years was I knew I needed to eat a lot because I read all the bodybuilding magazines and you got to eat more calories. My mistake as a kid was just eating garbage. Because I thought calories were calories. Yeah. So let's just get them in. so I'd eat pizza and fast food and ice cream and candy and whatever I could get my hands out I would eat and it wasn't until uh there was a there was a period of time where I had to stay at my grandmother's house my parents were were out of the country and my grandmother being an old school Italian woman she would give me whatever I wanted she would make it and I just told her I like steak so she made me steak and rice or steak and potato or steak and pasta four times a day and I built so much muscle during that period of time and ate no garbage.

18:29Adam Schafer:I ate no garbage food. I remember just putting whatever I could in a shake, like literally everything and just blending it first thing in the morning. And really, you know, in hindsight, if I ate like a big breakfast that was like whole foods, like how much further that would have taken me and not have the gastric distress and not have the pain and everything else that deterred me from like training is hard or like, you know, I had issues throughout the day that I had to suffer through. But yeah, it's like I had no idea. I just thought I had to get as many calories as possible.

18:59Sal Di Stefano:Well, I remember when Calorie King, the book before.com came out, and I had the Calorie King book, and I first started tracking macros. And up until that point, assume because I did the things that you said, just ate milkshakes and raviolis and just whatever high, lots of pastas and just high-calorie foods, that I must be eating enough. and what was happening was there was days when I ate enough calories, but then even on those days I was still low on protein. The days when I didn't get enough calories, I was even lower on protein. I thought, oh, my God. And the only way that I could possibly hit my protein intake consistently was I actually – and which was I give this advice a lot of time for people that struggle hitting proteins.

19:40Sal Di Stefano:I had to eat clean because if I ate this junk food, I realized that I would eat like 1 ,000-calorie-plus meal, but then I didn't want to eat for like four or five hours.

19:49Adam Schafer:It was all carbs and fat.

19:50Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, so it would stuff me. Then I wouldn't – so then I had 30 grams of protein, 1 ,000 calories, you know, and then it didn't – I didn't want to eat for four to six hours, and I did it again. And, man, even if I did that four times, I'm only looking at 120 grams of protein in the day, and that's on the good side. And I thought because I had protein shakes every now and then that I was getting enough, and I was just way, way under my protein.

20:12Adam Schafer:No, you just mentioned something kind of in passing there, which is eating a lot of calories for the sake of eating calories from garbage food also makes you feel like crap. Yeah. You don't have the energy. You get those energy crashes. Your digestive system isn't good. Then you feel like weird and bloated. And then you're like, oh, I got to eat again, but I can't because I just ate that bucket of fried chicken or whatever it was. And it actually gets in your way. Whereas when you eat every three hours, but it's whole natural food, still high calorie. you've got the rice, you've got the potatoes, you've got the ground beef or whatever, you can eat it again.

20:46Much easier in your digestion. And you feel better.

20:49Adam Schafer:What's your worst bulking meal? I have like a couple that I can think off the top of my head.

20:54Sal Di Stefano:Well, I remember when I used to get a bucket of chicken from KFC thinking that that was high protein. Bro. Because you think, chicken, that's got to be it. It's mostly fat. I'll never forget. This is all the Calorie King days of looking in the book. And I remember I had already been doing this for a while and thinking this is a high-protein food. And I did the comparison of a fried chicken meal to like a Burger King Double Whopper. And the Double Whopper actually had a higher ratio of protein than the chicken did. It was like, it blew my mind. It was like, how is this what I would consider, what I thought was a high-protein meal, it was just fried chicken, was lower in protein, higher in saturated fat than a cheeseburger was.

21:37Sal Di Stefano:That just like blew my mind. And that was kind of the tipping point for me of like, oh, I'm definitely not doing this right.

21:43Adam Schafer:I have a couple memories that just burned into me. One was a bucket of chicken, like you said, which I felt horrible. Like I ate the whole thing. Try running after that. No, dude. And I did it managing gyms. I was 19. I bought a bucket of chicken, sat down, ate the whole thing. And the whole day was a waste, man. I sat in my office. It felt horrible. I smelled like chicken. It was terrible. I remember that. And then I remember at the 24 on Santa Teresa's at McDonald's right there. And they used to have the like 49 cent back then cheeseburgers. So I'd buy like 10 cheeseburgers. It was mostly bread.

22:17Yeah.

22:18Adam Schafer:You know, and I'd smash them all. It was Carl Jr. or what was it? What was it? Colossus Burger. That was my go-to. That's better than we did. Or the Baconator. Yeah, dude. Eat a lot, but eat clean. That'll work really well. Next up, sleep like a baby every single night. Prioritize sleep. This is going to turbocharge your muscle gains. The studies on this are wild. When they compare groups of people and one of them has suboptimal sleep and the other one has optimal sleep, the difference in muscle gain or muscle loss is dramatic. Makes a big difference. I'm going to make some supplement suggestions, but the supplements do not replace making sure you go to bed on time and waking up at the same time every day.

23:02Adam Schafer:So you still got to do that. But glycine, theanine, magnesium, before bed, the data shows significantly improves people's sleep. So glycine, theanine, and magnesium. Give those a shot. And then lastly, you got to be hyper-focused and consistent with this. Building muscle is an every single day process. It is not a four-day-a-week process. It is not a Monday through Friday, weekends I'm off type of process. If you really want to build a significant amount of lean body mass, it's 90 straight days of consistency. That's why this is a challenge. But at the end of this, a lot of people are going to come out a lot stronger with a lot more muscle.

23:42That's why you got to think about setting yourself up for the next workout and for the next one right after that. So you just keep thinking ahead.

23:47Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, if you're only lifting three to four days a week, think of the everyday consistencies that every day you're doing something towards this process that we just laid out, like whether that be getting a better sleep routine, having your supplements ready for the sleep, preparing, prepping meals for the next day, like getting your gym bag ready. Like, I think sometimes people, you know, like a 90 day challenge like this, uh, it's like, Oh, I need, I need something every day to work out. It's like, no, like every day you're, you're thinking about your health journey. And so sometimes when you don't have a day where you have to go to the gym, it looks like walking, looks like meal prepping, looks like having your gym bag ready.

24:24Sal Di Stefano:It's like, that's the thing that's going to make this successful for 90 days is thinking about the things that you need to do towards that.

24:29Adam Schafer:You know, along, along these lines, I remember when we interviewed, I believe it was Ben Pakulski, uh, pro IFBB pro bodybuilder. And I asked him, this was one of the first times we had him on the show. How is it that these pro bodybuilders, these are already pros. They're already maxed out with muscle. They would go over to the Middle East. They'd stay over there for a while and they'd all gain 10 pounds of muscle or 15 pounds of muscle, which is wild for a pro bodybuilder. Who's already pro to gain even more muscle,

24:55Sal Di Stefano:Which for the audience that doesn't know, there's like tons of like speculation around. They've got these crazy new steroids over there. There's these oxygen tanks they're doing. I remember when that was first popular, I was competing. Yeah. And there was all these rumors of what they were taking over there. Oh, they have myostatin blockers that are doing.

25:13Adam Schafer:They had no, all the steroids they had there, the same ones people have in the US. There's no nothing different. Here's the difference. There was nothing to do over there but work out, eat, and sleep. Sleep, yeah. And so he said they'd go there for months. Extremely regimented. And people would prepare their meals for them. And they'd work out. They'd go back to the room, go to sleep, take naps. And they'd all gain 10 pounds of muscle. Yeah, yeah.

25:31Sal Di Stefano:I remember when you asked that question. And I was so curious, too, because I knew he had been over there. Because he would tell us. Yeah, oh, yeah, no, totally. He was super, I mean, honest and transparent about all that. And I remember during that time when that, it was the oxygen gym over there. It got super popular. And all these bodybuilders were coming back over. that they put on all this muscle and everyone was just like, oh, they've got some new steroid over there. And it's like, no. And which, it's so funny because at that time, I'm guilty of speculating too. Like, oh, I hear myostatin blockers.

26:02Sal Di Stefano:I hear this. But hearing him say that, it's like, of course. Of course. Of course, that makes so much sense that that's probably the biggest thing that they were doing over there was they did nothing but all live in this hotel, workout, eat right, and sleep first.

26:17Adam Schafer:And I asked other pro bodybuilders, Through the show, we get to meet these pros, and a couple of them I've become friends with, and they'll tell me everything. They don't care. It's off air. And they confirm the same thing. They're like, dude, they're just sleeping and eating and lifting. That's all they're doing. So it works, you guys. It works. Speaking of exercise, I know we talk a lot about correctional exercise. I've experienced the power of correctional exercise with my clients, where I have just countless examples of people hiring me or now with our trainers here at Mind Pump coming the end with back pain that's riddled them for a decade or knee pain or whatever.

26:51Adam Schafer:I remember I had clients that were like, oh, I can't do certain exercise. I have a bad knee. It's been hurting me for years. And then we do correctional exercise. And within a month, it's gone, gone, gone. And I have countless examples of that, but there's nothing like experiencing yourself. There really isn't. I've done it to so many people, but I am now, I just, right now I'm experiencing it myself. So I've had left hip instability kind of pain for a little while. And I've gotten around it with my strength training because I can lift a particular way and I'm cool and it's all good. And every once in a while it'll bother me.

27:23Adam Schafer:Then I started going back to jujitsu and it just started hurting to the point where it was like bending over to time. My shoes would hurt and I have to take time off jujitsu. And I'm like, and I'm like, you know what? I need to address, uh, whatever's going on. And now here's the crazy part in my mind. I'm thinking to myself what a lot of clients thought is I'm thinking there's probably some damage to my joint. I wonder if I'm going to need some hip surgery at some point. Well, here's all I've been doing. I've been going to the gym and I've been doing lateral hip, lateral sled drags, lateral sled drags.

27:54Adam Schafer:That's it. And I know I need lateral stability. And you know what's happened? Two, three weeks later, no more hip pain. No hip pain. Yeah. It's gone. It's totally gone. Just from some simple, just from simply doing lateral sled drags. It's funny. I do have a story too. Like I've been complaining about my hips when I wake up in the morning, them being really tight forever. And like, you know, especially in my hip flexor has been, uh, extra, like just sends me this pain signal, like sporadically all the time. And, um, and I'm like, ah, trying all these mobility moves and really trying to kind of find a way to, uh, static stretch it and like address it.

28:31And it's like, dude, I needed to strengthen it. And I really needed to just focus on strengthening it. and started to do a lot of those moves where I get these isometric positions and really emphasize that. And then I started adding some kettlebell to it. And just like you, it's like, duh, like, wow, amazing. It works. You know, like I feel great. But the consistency of it, I really have to keep it up because it'll come back.

28:55Sal Di Stefano:Have either one of you guys incorporated the isometric lunges that I've been telling you about? No, no, I forgot. Oh, that's been game-changing for me. I have, yes. That's how I start all my low-body movements now. Yeah. And because I'm the same way and I have to go through all, all these kinds of lateral exercises and everything like that in 90, 90s or leg swings or Miguel assisted planes. Like I have all these things that I do to get ready to squat or deadlift. And I've been able to just do two long sets of these walking isometric lunges where I do these five to 10 second isometric holds between.

29:31Sal Di Stefano:And I just, my legs are, my legs and hips are just, woken up and feels so good.

29:38Adam Schafer:It's wild. A significant percentage, I would say a majority of the average person's chronic pain can be corrected with the right correctional exercise. There's people right now listening who are just, they just deny it. Address the weakness. But I'm telling you, like when your body starts to move right, it doesn't hurt. It just doesn't hurt. Now it's different from being injured. Like you got hurt, that's different. But a lot of people have chronic pain. it's because your body is moving in a way that hurts it's not optimal you're weak not only that

30:08Sal Di Stefano:and something that i've also experienced because one of the things i've been noticing with my current journey right now is uh how much i've gotten inflammation down and you you exacerbate that with a little extra weight or inflammation too so you got weakness and instability going on

30:23Adam Schafer:and joints like that it gets worse or better and then you yeah and then you're also a little bit

30:27Sal Di Stefano:inflamed which i feel like the average person that is dealing with chronic pain has got this low-level constant state of inflammation, and then they have this chronic pain and this weakness, and it's just like, oh my God, it feels like it's impossible. You're always dealing with it. It's like you bring down the weight a little bit, you bring down inflammation a little bit, and you work on that weakness with some isometrics and some stuff like that. It's magical. It literally is, and it can feel life-changing, but it just takes that effort towards working on it. And I'd say, I mean, you said, I'd say a majority.

31:01Sal Di Stefano:I mean, when I think back to all the clients I trained, rarely did I, I mean, a very small percentage, maybe 10, 15 % of clients with pain that I dealt with had some sort of acute injury. You know, rarely ever. I mean, I did have that. I did have the person who broke a bone or had like a fused disc or had, had some, yeah, had like a major surgery or something. I did have that, but it was a very small percentage. A majority of the clients were just middle-aged or advanced age and carrying some extra body fat on them and were riddled with chronic knee pain, chronic low back pain, chronic shoulder pain, and it wasn't from an acute injury.

31:41Sal Di Stefano:Some daily habits. Yeah, it's just from over years, it's gotten worse and worse and worse. And maybe they had like a scenario, which this is common, which I think sometimes people conflate these, is they did something that now caused it to really end. Yeah, they had an injury.

31:56Adam Schafer:Right. A sense has been healed.

31:58Sal Di Stefano:That's right. That's right. And now it hurts. They did something, they tweaked them, and so they think, oh, that's an acute injury that's now maybe going to have a bad back. It's like, no, it's like that was caused because of the weakness and instability, caused a minor injury. Injury's been healed, but you still have the chronic pain from that, and that's from the movement patterns and weakness that hasn't been addressed, added another layer to that, the systemic inflammation that you're dealing with all the time, and then it just exacerbates all that.

32:24Adam Schafer:I'll say this. I never had a single client with pain who didn't get a lot better through correctional exercise. Now, I had some clients where the pain didn't fully go away. That was actually quite rare. Most of my clients, the pain went fully away. Sometimes it took months. Oftentimes it took weeks. And like I said, most of them, the pain went away completely. And like I said, I had a couple where it got significantly better, but it was still kind of there, but their quality of life went through the roof. Never had a situation. Never. with a client where it didn't at least get better.

32:56Sal Di Stefano:Oh, yeah. It always improves.

32:58Adam Schafer:I was going to ask you, Adam, because you just love the Caldera Lab soap so much.

33:04Sal Di Stefano:Off air, you were talking about. Off air, I'm talking shit to you guys. I know, dude.

33:08Adam Schafer:So what's the deal? I know.

33:10Sal Di Stefano:Well, first of all, okay, so they only used to, you had a flagship or whatever, their first staple launched bar soap, which is the Sandalwood Sea Salt or something like that. What is it? Sandalwood Basil. The sandalwood basil, which I think is the best bar of soap I've ever had in my life. And part of that reason is, one, when you get like a natural soap, one, they almost never lather. And so you feel like you're scrubbing yourself with this thing that's good for you, that's like a better natural source. But you don't see the foam and stuff like that. And I get it. I know a lot of that's psychological and stuff like that with the toothpaste and the shampoo and all.

33:51Sal Di Stefano:I get it, but there's just something about that that is that I enjoy. When I brush my teeth, I want a little bit of bubbles. When I had hair, you see, I still remember doing that right there. I like that. And definitely when I lather up from soap, I want to see that I've hit everything or I clean everything. So it's got the best lather. Now, if there was a knock, it still has that kind of natural smell to it. I've never been a fan of that sandalwood-y hippie. But one of the things why I love the bar so much was that it was mild. I didn't feel like I smelt hippie.

34:29Adam Schafer:Yeah, it wasn't like perfume was on you.

34:30Sal Di Stefano:Yes. So I love it. Well, now they have a new one out. And the new one is, what's the new - Citrus? Citron, they call it, plus sea salt. Fire. That smells awesome. That has a citrus-y smell. It doesn't smell hippie smell. And I apologize for all the hippies that I'm - I like KB smell, personally. Do you like that smell? I do actually like it, yeah. Really? You like patchouli? Yeah. I don't know about patchouli, but sandalwood's great. Yeah. I like sandalwood. No, not on my body. I like the, I don't mind the smell. Where do you like it? I don't mind the smell of it. I don't like my - But you don't want to smell like it.

35:04I don't want to smell like it. I like the soap that has a rope on it. Soap on a rope, dude. Do they sell that anymore? I mean, like, nobody else gets paranoid when you drop it. Where are you showering? Where are you showering? You get paranoid. Just saying.

35:20Sal Di Stefano:No, so you guys haven't tried the new one. As far as I know, it's pretty recent because I've been using it nonstop since we started.

35:30Adam Schafer:You know, they do such a good job. Their products aim at improving the health of your skin, and then the side effect of which is your skin looks better. Other skincare products, they use crazy chemicals and stuff to try to induce a look, but it's not necessarily because you're healthier. It's just like, let's create this look to your skin. Like, let's peel off the top layer or let's do this thing. All of their stuff is literally improves the microbiome of your skin. It doesn't destroy your skin's natural oils. It literally makes your skin healthier, which is why it works so well.

36:08Sal Di Stefano:Such a fire burn. I know, it's really, really cool. I love it.

36:11Adam Schafer:Hey, did you guys see, oh my God. Remember when I said that PDE5 inhibiting drugs like Viagra are going to be, I can't wait to ask you about that. How many studies are out now supporting this idea? I called this a while ago that these are going to be the new longevity drugs when it comes to medication. And we see this with how it improves endothelial health. So because it does vasodilation, because it inhibits an enzyme that breaks down nitric oxide, your blood vessels relax. It keeps them healthier. It gives better blood flow. Better blood flow.

36:53Sal Di Stefano:The biohacking community has been doing it. They do it either like a small dose daily or once a week they do a dose. Yeah, I've already listened to a couple people interview.

37:01Adam Schafer:So it's definitely starting to become a longevity medicine. There was a new, this is an observational study. So little asterisk here. There's no controlled study on this yet, but there's an observational study that it also reduces cancer. There's anti-cancer effects from PDE5.

37:21Sal Di Stefano:What is your theory on why?

37:24Adam Schafer:Well, they already have a theory as to why. So it's the way that it affects how cholesterol moves through the body, which prevents how cancer cells.

37:32Sal Di Stefano:Is that because it's not like it's moving it more fluidly through? like it's pumping.

37:37Adam Schafer:There's something else it does and you can look it up, Doug. So they're being studied for slowing tumor growth, reducing metastasize and boosting immune response against various cancers. They increase cyclic GMP levels which can suppress cancer cell proliferation and enhance the effectiveness of standard chemotherapy. But there's also something it does where it prevents the cancer so it blocks something that cancer cells need. There it is right there. elevated C GMP levels can interfere with intracellular cholesterol transport, which limits the cholesterol supplies that cancer cells need to grow and spread.

38:16Adam Schafer:Interesting. So, and it's literally being studied. Cholesterol starvation. Yes. Now, what's cool about, see, here's the thing about cancer cells that, well, not cool, it's what makes it difficult to treat cancer, is that usually what starves the cancer cells starves the other cells. But there are interesting ways that cancer cells can be starved or inhibited that don't affect healthy cells. Like a good example is the Warburg effect, which is, this isn't true for all cancers, but for many cancers, they're unable to operate off of ketones. They just, they need some sugar to operate. As fuel, yeah.

38:49Adam Schafer:So when you get rid of that and you're operating on ketones, many cancer cells starve, whereas your other cancer cells continue, sorry, your other cells continue to live. So that's kind of what might be happening. But how interesting is that? Super interesting. that this boner drug is going to turn out to be. I'll tell my buddies about it. They get all excited. Because they're already on it. Hey, honey, guess what? So you ordered some. I did. For the health benefits.

39:14Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, totally. For sure. Yeah. My equipment works. It's all good. Have you tried it yet? I haven't got it yet. It should come in any day now. In fact, actually, I thought it was just coming in the order that Doug had yesterday, unless he stole it from me, because it's kind of weird that my TRT came, but yeah, they didn't come. So I'm wondering why it's missing. missing yeah yeah jacked my stuff dude it's also has been shown i'm just selling the hell out of

39:40Adam Schafer:these now they're out they're also shown to boost muscle protein synthesis i mean what's what is

39:45Sal Di Stefano:the because i what i haven't heard and part of why i did it is because it's like i haven't heard

39:48Adam Schafer:anything negative if you're on blood lowering medication uh you don't want to take blood pressure yeah blood pressure sorry sorry uh blood pressure lowering medication um like um uh what's it called? Doug, look up contraindications or what not to take them with. There's certain drugs you don't want to take them with because you pass out. You get real low blood pressure. Yeah, I mean, okay, that's

40:11Sal Di Stefano:I'm saying like any sort of, all things considering you're normal on that, you're not taking any other drugs that would counter that or would work.

40:19Adam Schafer:Yes.

40:21Sal Di Stefano:Nitrates, there you go.

40:22Adam Schafer:Nitrates can be very dangerous. Severe life-threatening drop in blood pressure. There's also certain antibiotics and you don't want to eat grapefruit around them. What? Yeah. There's a compound in grapefruit. Wait a second.

40:34Sal Di Stefano:The element grapefruit is my favorite drink. Is that a problem? I don't think there's real grapefruit in there.

40:40Adam Schafer:I don't think they actually use it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's grapefruit. But pineapple's still on the list, right?

40:44Sal Di Stefano:I'm going to have to switch up my element drinks.

40:47Adam Schafer:People either get that or they don't. It's fine. Let it fly. Listen, there's a compound in grapefruit that slows down the breakdown of certain compounds by the liver. So if you take grapefruit, I forgot what it was. there's a compound of grapefruit, maybe you can find it, Doug, that if you take it, it'll increase the blood levels of the compound. Some supplements will include that compound to make it more effective. Did you see it? I did, but it didn't say exactly the details about it.

41:16Sal Di Stefano:Can't interview with Bobby Metallica. Yeah, what is it in grapefruit? I can't remember it off the top of my... Interesting. So you think my grapefruit element's fine? Yeah, dude. It's not grapefruit juice. Well, it's like extract. Wouldn't it be or no? No, no, no, no. You're fine, dude. I got one right here. Oh, you got one right there. Thankfully, I'm not on anything right now.

41:35Adam Schafer:Dude, I have been preaching this for so long now, and people are starting to do it now. People are taking one or two Element packets before their workout, like an hour before. So they're drinking it with like a quarter gallon of water or whatever. And they're like, man, the pumps I'm getting.

41:50Sal Di Stefano:Do you remember, like before we were even a sponsor with Element, do you remember, we talked about this early days of Mind Pump, And I told you that this, like, when I was, it wasn't until I got into competing that this, like, unlocked for me. I'm like, I've been taking all these stupid pump supplements my whole life. No explode. And they work. Like, I get a pump from them, stuff like that. But, like, nothing compared to, like, water and sodium loading and some carbohydrates. You put the three of those together, it will blow away any pump. That was like, like for me.

42:29Adam Schafer:My pre-workout always includes a packet of Element. I have one right on my way to the gym in a nice big thing of water. That's having it on the way there. And then I'll drink more while I work out. Huge difference.

42:40Sal Di Stefano:It's funny the pushback that it's getting in some of the fitness space. You know, you see some. Yeah. What pushback? Yeah, there's people that are hating on it. Yeah. Why? Just like when we started and we were talking trash about electrolytes. Yeah. I think it's partially that, but also too, it's just because it's popular. Yeah. You know, they want to shit on it. It's because it's basically salt. It's cheap. Right.

43:00Adam Schafer:Salt, a little bit of magnesium, potassium.

43:02Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. And so there's this big hate on it that it's just, oh, that's a waste of money. It's just like, well, I guess if you're going to discipline yourself to put those three things together every single day, you're in your water. You're so balanced with your nutrition. Yeah. It's like, okay.

43:15Adam Schafer:If you want it to taste good in your water, just throw a packet of element in there. It's not expensive.

43:20Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. No, I think worth it. Worth it, for sure. Yeah, I love it. Love it. By the way, this is what's in grapefruit.

43:26Adam Schafer:Yeah, I can't say that. Yeah, it's a furanocumarins, something like that. Yeah, they block an enzyme that is responsible for breaking down Viagra in your liver and your gut. So if you have them both, it doesn't break it down, and you can get a dangerous amount of Viagra to build up in your system. So longer than a four-hour bonner. Potentially. How often, is that even a, like, I know what that was always a joke. How many people does that happen to? Yeah, that was always a joke, right? When Viagra first hit the market. Oh, I don't think it's a joke.

43:57Sal Di Stefano:I think it's a serious. I'm sure, yeah. I think a lot of people have taken more than they're supposed to take and then it hits. That's, I think, what it is. Yes. They probably overdose on it. I mean, I've told the story before of that stuff before. Yeah, I told the Vegas story where I took some and then I partied and I was just like, this doesn't even work. So I took another one, still didn't work. It delayed. It hit the next morning, the next day. I was driving home from, I flew in. Yeah, but you didn't have to go to the doctor. No. Yeah, I figured out what to do with it.

44:33Sal Di Stefano:Well, that whole day just changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It shifted my priorities for a day. So it's rare.

44:39Adam Schafer:It's got to be rare, right? So this was, what I'm saying is the joke was, because Viagra came out a long time ago, and that was one of the disclaimers in the commercial. If you experienced an erection for longer than four hours, right? Yeah. But that's got to be rare. Well, I think that's because of another physical challenge a person has.

44:56Sal Di Stefano:It's also, Sal. And this just exacerbates it. It's also, Sal, probably a selling tactic, just like you did to us young boys. Just like steroids. Be careful. You know what I'm saying? You can get two jacks. And you're like, what? I'm definitely taking that. Which I'm sure everyone's arms could explode. Four-hour erection? I'll be fine. I'm not going to a doctor.

45:16Adam Schafer:That's a pre-apism. it's a long and often painful erection lasting for four more hours without sexual desire oh without sexual desire yeah so what happens is if you have pre-apism is you get an erection and it just won't go away and it's just there that would suck it just aches I get to get worse things stop I don't know I'm trying to hey listen of all the things you can go to the doctor for that's got to be the worst. Yeah. You walk in. First off, you're walking in. It's like people know what's happening because you can see. Doc, it's angry. Hey, listen. I got a parapism. I have to use the real term.

46:00Adam Schafer:Yeah, yeah. Be all scientific. What do I do, Doc?

46:02Sal Di Stefano:It was probably more of a selling tactic, to be honest. Now that we're sitting here talking about it, I'm like, oh, I bet that was what that was. Yeah, there might be like one guy and they're like, I'm reusing this.

46:11Adam Schafer:Wow. You can get permanent damage. Unbelievable. yeah that sucks anyway oh I gotta tell you guys about what Lifetime is doing you know Lifetime the show no no what are you watching it took me back to my granddad

46:30Sal Di Stefano:Hallmark I live with my grandma for like he just got caught bro

46:34Adam Schafer:this is the last time you abused me this is when you take your this is when Adam's taking his baths you know

46:43Sal Di Stefano:he loves said to me. I haven't had a bath in a long time, dude. I've been... When did you have a bath last? You know what's hilarious about you just said that? You didn't have a bath tonight? Last night, I was probably laying in bed for a good hour shopping for bathtubs. I don't have one in my master bath. Like Clothfoot? Yeah, I don't have one in my master bath. The master bathroom, before I got into that place, it was one of the things they had just remodeled. My master bath is nice, but it doesn't have a bathtub. and so in order for me to put one in there I'm going to have to like remodel the whole thing and so I'm like back and forth but just last night I was like man I haven't had a bath in a long time I miss my bubble bath so I was shopping and trying to figure out what's the biggest one I could fit in that place you ever smoked a cigar in there not a cigar I've smoked other things in there definitely having a having a joint while I watch TV was a thing I did for sure he's a narcissist

47:40Adam Schafer:leave him that's you watching him get out Get out. So listen to what Lifetime is going to do. This is kind of crazy and kind of cool, I think.

47:51Sal Di Stefano:What?

47:51Adam Schafer:They're building a gym you can live in. Let me explain. What? Let me explain. They are building, this is called Lifetime Living in Paradise Valley. It's opening in 2027. There's going to be 327 residences. Interesting. So these are one, two, and one and two bedroom and three, and penthouses. So one bedroom, two bedroom, and penthouses. and it's going to be a huge, basically - Complex. Complex. But in there -

48:21Sal Di Stefano:This is interesting.

48:22Adam Schafer:So it's a resort, essentially. So it's going to come with - This is kind of brilliant. That kind of makes sense. You're going to have your membership - Well, you know what they'll do is they'll include the membership by owning the home.

48:33Sal Di Stefano:That's right. Or the rent.

48:34Adam Schafer:You've got the gym. You've got the restaurants in there, the wellness, the recovery, all in this huge resort-like The pool, everything, plus you have an apartment or a penthouse.

48:46Sal Di Stefano:You're also cultivating a community of like-minded people, too. 100%. This is kind of brilliant. It's very brilliant.

48:53Adam Schafer:Listen to what it includes. Two rooftop pools, pickleball, and a 92 ,000-square-foot club that's in the same. 92 ,000? 92 ,000-square-foot club. That's a monster. Yeah, and you live there. That's so much better than Google Campus, where they're trying to make everybody live there and play ping pong. Way better, dude. Bro. way better dude this is brilliant says every residence includes a lifetime is there enough is there enough you said 300 and something 327 where is it gonna go first paradise where's that

49:25Sal Di Stefano:i think it's called uh let me see where's that is that is that arizona is that california no paradise valley paradise valley what i don't know where the hell that is is that california arizona no paradise is burned down that's where my let me see let me see uh fairfield california as a tournament community. I think that's it. There's also one in Arizona. I think it might be Arizona. So check this out. Arizona's the most likely place this pulls up. That sounds like a good kickoff place.

49:51Adam Schafer:So this is a very fast-growing segment of the wellness economy. So here's the stats. Wellness real estate. This is a thing. Wellness real estate hit$876 billion in 2025. You know what it's forecasting to reach in 2030? Five years? $1.8 trillion. They're going to keep doing this. Wellness, real estate. These are complexes that include - Actually interesting. Dude, that could take off. Tell me you wouldn't live, if you were just a single professional -

50:20Sal Di Stefano:There it is right there at Dougie's Point. It is Arizona, right? Yeah, Arizona. That's a good place to go start it at. Dude, look at that.

50:27Adam Schafer:Tell me you wouldn't want to, if you were just a single professional, right? You're making decent money. Tell me that's not the place you would live.

50:34Sal Di Stefano:Even if you're a young couple. Sure. You know? I mean, it's the only people I don't, it's not going to attract the late middle age, big family person probably. Because it's condo living, right? So condo living is going to be like anybody under 35 with one kid or less is going to be. Your empty nester. Man, that's cool. Dude, super cool, right?

51:03Adam Schafer:And it's all on your property. And you're right there. and then you're in part of this kind of community. I can see things moving in this direction because we've moved so far away from community that I can see how people would want something like this.

51:17Sal Di Stefano:I'm just so, I'm curious if you can, I mean, they obviously did their homework, right? So Arizona has the most gyms per capita. You're right. And so, because my thing would be like, can you get 350 people, arguably more than that, because these are two-bedroom places, so 700 people in a five-mile radius that would all want to be in health and fitness and living in a place like this. But if there was a place you test this at, it would be Arizona. Yeah. So this will be interesting to see how this takes off. You know, I don't see this in a lot of cities. I could see this in Arizona. I could see this in LA.

51:56Sal Di Stefano:LA. I could see it around here,

51:58Adam Schafer:except property's so expensive. Really here? Yeah, I think I could see that. I don't think so, dude. We have like Santana.

52:02Sal Di Stefano:We don't have a big fitness culture. Florida, maybe. But we don't even have a single mega gym.

52:08Adam Schafer:Yeah.

52:09Sal Di Stefano:We don't have one mega gym over here. That's one of the knocks I've always said about over here. How will we not have a mega gym over here? Yeah, because it's too expensive. Silicon Valley is not known for health and wellness. No. We're not. So I don't know about here, but I definitely think - Look at the pictures. It looks sick.

52:25Adam Schafer:I know. I think Lifetime is brilliant. They are crushing the high-end wellness gym space. I mean, their gym memberships are expensive. Have you been to a lifetime?

52:36Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, they're sick.

52:37Adam Schafer:They're great and packed. I went to one up in, I don't know if it was Roseville. It's kind of up in that area. My cousin took me because he's a member. And they're expensive. The gym memberships are expensive. We went in there, and it wasn't even prime time. And it was packed. I'm like, oh, my God, all these people are paying this huge membership fee? I don't remember what it was, like 200-something bucks a month.

52:55Sal Di Stefano:How soon can you put a down payment on a condo? Good question. It'd be an interesting investment.

53:03Adam Schafer:I, 100%. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. But I think this is interesting. I wonder if this is going to keep, like I said, the wellness, this spot of wellness, they are predicting to grow dramatically in the next five years, which is kind of interesting. Super interesting. Sounds pretty cool to me, yeah.

53:21Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, really. You know, I always think about when we see stuff like this, like, so cool to us. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool to everybody. Yeah, like, does this go out beyond our bubble enough to carry?

53:33Adam Schafer:Well, I don't think it's a bad bet because look. I don't think so either. It's a great bet. Doug, maybe look up. What's the average membership at Lifetime Fitness? They went into an area that just 20 years ago, gyms were like, no way. That's country club. We're not going to do that. And Lifetime is one of the fastest growing companies in fitness.

53:52Sal Di Stefano:So part of why I think they are, and Doug can maybe look up and correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the things that Lifetime did really well and why they are thriving right now and they basically leapfrog companies like 24 and UFC and all these other gyms was what they did smart early on was they're in the real estate game.

54:09Adam Schafer:Oh, so this makes sense.

54:10Sal Di Stefano:So they own their buildings. Do they? Oh, I believe so. But maybe I'm wrong. Doug, I'm pretty sure, though, that's what gave them this upper hand was they've been buying up their buildings since David. Yeah, which is because you know how hard it is to make a gym really, really profitable. Oh, yeah. But the ones that have done really well are the ones that have been in this game for 20 plus years and have been owning real estate. Because now they've got this real estate that's appreciated, you know, 4X. And on top of that, so let's look at it, see if they own.

54:41Adam Schafer:Yeah. They do own some properties. Their broader business and model increasingly relies on sale leaseback transactions. So they build or acquire properties, sell it to a real estate investment trust. Oh. And continue occupying the building under a long-term triple net lease.

54:55Sal Di Stefano:Okay, well, that's just a fancy way of saying they own it. Yeah.

54:59Adam Schafer:they're shuffling things around.

55:01Sal Di Stefano:So they do. So they, that's the, see, that's their, that's the model.

55:03Adam Schafer:I know that made sense to me. Is that what's happening? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

55:05Sal Di Stefano:That's exactly what they're doing. They're buying it. They're selling it to their, another, a trust, which they have, they have control the trust, the trust, then it leases it back to them. So they're, yeah, no, it's a, it's brilliant. So really they're in like, I mean, this is like, I was just talking to Kyle about this yesterday. Like, this is so, this is like McDonald's. everything's McDonald's is a burger joint. It's like they're, they're, they're a real estate company. They're a massive real estate company that just happens to sell hamburgers. It's like, this is, this is a real estate company that's disguised as a fitness center.

55:37Sal Di Stefano:And they've been doing it for so long that at this point they've.

55:40Adam Schafer:When were they founded?

55:41Sal Di Stefano:They've been around for a long time. Have they? Oh yeah. Over 20 years.

55:44Adam Schafer:Dude, if I ever had to be a general manager of a gym again, which just, that's a lot of work and I don't have the energy for it, but it would definitely want to run one of those. That'd be fun.

55:54Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, Mega Gym. I'm curious. I wonder what they pay. I wonder how well they pay there. 1992. 1992, bro. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Well, they're growing really well. Yeah. Cool. I would love to go see that place. I know. My buddy goes to the one down in Orange County, and he's always sending me pictures, and he's just like, it's so sick down here. Yeah, it's like they turn it into a total experience. Yeah, gyms are interesting,

56:19Adam Schafer:man this this segment of the gym industry uh you're either gonna go dirt cheap or you're gonna go like that kind of style you know high end there's the middle is uh it's kind of disappearing although i do know that one of the strategies and i think they're doing this with 24 because i know matt mark bought you know back into 24 is they're gonna kind of reinvigorate the middle by having a Low flat cost and then a la carte. You know, I don't want the extra stuff. Santa Cruz Athletic Club is doing that. And so far, he said it's a winning strategy.

56:57Sal Di Stefano:You would make him, I would make him, I haven't been in there, so I don't know, but I would say he's more of a high end spot. He's more of a high end. Yeah, I would say that too. I wouldn't put him as a middle. It's not middle. Yeah, he's not middle tier. Like middle tier to me is like 49 to 60 bucks a month. Yes, right. High end is 100. I don't, you know, listen, I would never, ever, ever bet against Mark Mastroff. But I don't, I just don't see. Because the other thing that's also, I think it'd be interesting to see these stats, but I think it's still on the rise, is more and more people at home working out.

57:27Sal Di Stefano:So you're either going to go super low cost and have your own gym and you're, you know, with things like companies like PRX, you get folded away and everything. And companies like Tonal and all the stuff that you can do everything at home. I feel like at home is exploding. you got these super cheap memberships um that are going on with like the fitness 19s and stuff like that and then you have these mega gyms that right that's a new factor that wasn't there when we were part it wasn't it wasn't even an option no so it was totally like middle it was either middle yeah yeah the middle you had some of these spas but the spas weren't like uh conducive to people that really were into working out 24 they were more like people that wanted massages and a pool.

58:06Sal Di Stefano:You know, 24th Fitness used to be middle high.

58:08Adam Schafer:When I first started selling memberships there in 1997, an all-club membership, and this is not adjusted for inflation, this is the price that we sold it in 1997, was$249 a join, $49 processing fee, $45 a month in 1997. That was expensive. It was expensive. For back then.

58:26Sal Di Stefano:It was. You're right. They leveraged was the 24 hours. That's right. So that's why they charged that premium. And they led the charge. they're the ones that led the charge on the, let's race to the bottom with the prices. So it's crazy, so think about that. Lifetime's around at this time, and they were just growing slow and buying these big buildings and slow, and one at a time, and they've just figure since 1992, buying these buildings are now worth a ton, a ton of money and leverage.

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1:00:25Adam Schafer:Yeah. So you might need to switch the protein. So you might be taking whey protein. You might have an intolerance to dairy, in which case maybe switch to something else. Egg protein powders can always cause a little bit of that because of the sulfur compound, the sulfur amount in egg. But this really is an issue with digestibility. You might need to switch the protein. Otherwise, they shouldn't cause – now, there's another issue. Sometimes people get constipation with lots of protein, in which case increase your fiber. But the gas part, this shouldn't be an issue. But animal protein is pretty, I mean, you can synthesize that.

1:01:04It's pretty bioavailable. So, I mean, yeah, I think for the most part, it's probably from a dairy source or some other intolerant something that you're eating that's causing this.

1:01:16Sal Di Stefano:So would you experiment with what you have me using right now that I find that is interesting? I'm watching as I'm using that how much easier it is on my digestion. So I've talked about this before. I can have whey, but I definitely have a limit of how much of it, especially how much of it in one sitting. If I do something, for example, like have a Magic Spoon cereal, which is infused with whey protein to boost the protein, with vitamin D milk, which is more like that amount of dairy in one sitting can make me feel that way. But I've been taking the - Yeah, the dairy enzymes. Yeah, the dairy enzymes, and it tends to mitigate that.

1:01:59Adam Schafer:So you can try digestive enzymes, and if it is dairy, you want to make sure the digestive enzymes contain the lactase enzyme that breaks down lactose, plus it'll include enzymes that break down protein. You could try it. You take a decent dose with your protein shakes and see if that makes a difference. But again, oftentimes it's switch protein. Switch to vegan or egg or beef. You can actually buy beef protein now. Even the quality, I would imagine, has a bit of a factor in that. Because even with Legion, for me, it's completely different in comparison to some other ones. Yeah, whey isolate tends to be easier for some people to digest than other forms.

1:02:38Sal Di Stefano:Yeah, the Paleo Valley bone broth is a great. Oh, that's for your gut health. So that's what I try not to have. I like whey. Whey tastes good. It's also used in a lot of foodstuff products like the Magic Spoon-type products like that. So I end up getting it. still. And so I just have learned that there's a threshold for me before I noticed things like this. And a lot of people, they just, again, all they're doing is farting. They don't see anything wrong with their stool. They don't see that. So they think they're totally fine, but they have some, like a mild intolerance to it. And so lowering the amount that you're doing in one sitting can help try the digestive enzymes that could help.

1:03:14Sal Di Stefano:Definitely. Obviously switching, I think almost always helps. Next question is from Barbie 21. I work a desk job, so it takes a lot of effort to reach my daily 10 ,000 step goal. I find that the weeks I'm able to meet those goals, I get really bad plantar fasciitis pain. I am prior military police, so I dealt with the pain for years, but never really did anything or did any physical therapy for it. Do you have any recommendations for those trying to reach their step goals while dealing with plantar fasciitis pain?

1:03:46Adam Schafer:Yeah, this has to do oftentimes with tightness in the calves. So the gastroc muscle, the soleus muscle, you got to get better flexibility in that. Inkle mobility can help with this. Tightness in those areas can cause plantar fasciitis. And so combat stretch is a good movement. And when you're trying to improve flexibility in this way, the more times you practice throughout the day, the better. So it's not like you just stretch once a week. You want to do this throughout the day. Short little stretching habits. That's right. So you have your traditional calf stretches. and then you have the ones where you're kneeling, which stretches the soleus, and that makes a huge difference.

1:04:27Adam Schafer:And then in the meantime, using a lacrosse ball or a hard ball on the bottom of your foot can help a lot with alleviating some of the pain.

1:04:36Sal Di Stefano:Just to me, you've got to have one of those lacrosse balls laying around in your bedroom or in your living room to where just any time you sit on the couch, you're messing with it, you're rolling around on it, get down and do the combat stretch multiple times throughout the day, and then absolutely, before you decide to go on a 30-minute hour walk to get your steps, you've got to do it before that. You've got to do it, and both of them ideally, like use the lacrosse ball, combat stretch, then go for the walk. Those things will really help out. Yep. Next question is from Chelsea Wellesley. What are some ideas of things to do during rest between sets?

1:05:13I have a hard time staying still.

1:05:15Adam Schafer:Well, I'll give you some suggestions, but also I just want to address that there's an underlying issue here. Yep. where you just can't sit still for two minutes. And that... That in itself is a discipline. Yes. And it's not just that. It's like you don't just have an issue with your workouts. Like this bleeds into the rest of your life. You're either constantly distracted or on your phone, not able to sit still. It's not really good for you. So my number one recommendation is to practice sitting still. Practice sitting still. This is something that we don't do so often anymore. And it's something that's needed.

1:05:50Adam Schafer:And if you don't do this, you don't give your mind a chance to wander and think. People who have issues with this tend to have more anxiety and stress as a result. Now, if you really need something to do, you could try writing in between sets. And this is what I do in between sets. So I use my in between set period to write notes for the show. So ideas will come up and I'll write down, oh, I want to talk about this. Here's how I want to organize that episode. So you could try that as well. But I honestly think just trying to sit there and be calm is one of the best things you could do. You want to know what I said to Katrina yesterday?

1:06:22Sal Di Stefano:What? She gave me the same thing. Same thing? Yeah. She's literally last night. She's like, man, she's like, because I had just told her what I told her the recipe for getting ready for Cabo was lift, lift heavy, long rest periods, bump protein. That's all I want you to do right now. And her report back to me today after the gym was like, man, sitting for three minutes feels like forever. I said, you're not lifting heavy enough then. Lift heavier. I am lifting heavy. Not heavy enough. If you're lifting heavy, you're going to love those three-minute rest periods. You're going to like that break.

1:06:48Sal Di Stefano:And so when my clients that tell me like, it's so hard to sit still, like you are not lifting heavy enough. You lift heavy enough and you will enjoy all three of those minutes. Good point. And then the other thing is to like visualize a lift. We talked about the study just recently about the benefits of visualizing yourself doing the lift. And I tell you what, again, back to the lifting heavy. If you're lifting really heavy and that was a really hard set you just did and you got three minutes, you got to rest before and there's one you're going to want that recovery time sitting there with your head down thinking about doing that lift again and get that full three minutes and then go get it again like that should be what it looks like i mean really just i just focus on breathing and uh you know letting all the noise leaves my mind like just literally just you know like decompress like use that time to just like calm the entire system and that's it next question is from Morgan King DPT.

1:07:45Would you hire a coach from out of state? I live in Wisconsin. I'm not moving to California, but would love to be a part of Mind Pump somehow.

1:07:54Adam Schafer:So there's really two main ways you can hire a coach. One is in person. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is like us hiring them. No.

1:08:02Sal Di Stefano:Yes, it is. It's a DPT. It's a DPT. Oh, you're right. It's a DPT. They live in Wisconsin. Would we hire them? They don't want to move to Cal. To work for us. Yes.

1:08:10Adam Schafer:Oh, you're right. That makes much more sense. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's the question. We have coaches that work for us. Yeah, we have remote coaches. Now, we encourage people, our staff, to be here because -

1:08:24Sal Di Stefano:You're certainly not going to make more than what you could as a DPT doing a remote coach, though. Yeah. Maybe if you are in person and then you have the ability to scale within the company. Yeah. But you can definitely make a nice living being a part-time coach for us.

1:08:36Adam Schafer:But we do have like, what, 10 virtual? We have 10 coaches, I think, that are - Virtual? Yeah. We have more than that. Do we? Oh, yeah. We have 17. 17. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. That's right.

1:08:45Sal Di Stefano:We have more virtual than we have in person. That's right. So, yeah, we have a lot of coaches all over the country that are virtual. And, you know, we had a bunch of them that we just flown in for training with us. You will have to come in to train here for a week in-house, and you'll have to pass, obviously, the interview and all that. But we absolutely hire out-of-state coaches and trainers. If you're a great fit, especially if you've been listening to Mind Pump, that's the big thing I noticed with Kyle. I've seen Kyle three different trainers that he didn't hire any of them. So it's not a guarantee.

1:09:19Sal Di Stefano:Yeah. If you, if you have been listening to this show, you understand maps pro programs and you're a good trainer. Yeah. There's definitely a really good shot that you could be a remote coach for us for sure.

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