Are You On Track to Becoming a Multi-Millionaire? (2026 Edition)

10 Jul 2026 · 32 min · 20 chapters

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In short

A “2026 edition” walkthrough of seven financial milestones on the path to financial independence/multi-millionaire status, emphasizing net-worth tracking, compounding, and “liquid millionaire” vs home-equity millionaire.

Guests/hosts

Brian Preston and Bo Hanson (Money Guy Show). They are financial advisors/partners with Abound Wealth Management (SEC-registered RIA).

Key claims

1) Many people start with zero or negative net worth; reaching $0 is a major early win. 2) Hitting $100,000 (emergency reserves + Roth IRA + 401k) is behavior mastery and compounding accelerates later. 3) “Two-comma club” at $1M total net worth often includes primary residence equity; true financial independence requires liquid assets. 4) Financial independence is reached when a stress-tested portfolio can sustain retirement spending (napkin math using safe withdrawal rate/4% as a starting point).

Notable examples

Credit Karma stats (31% Americans have net worth ≤0; Gen Z 41%, millennials 38%). Savings illustrations: ~$95/month to reach $1M by 65 (starting earlier helps). $10k/year savings at ~8% takes ~7.6 years to reach $100k; continuing contributions can reach ~$500k→$1M in the same time. “Bowling point” concept: at ~$1M, 10% returns (~$100k/year) can exceed annual saving. Liquid millionaire thresholds: e.g., ~$1.2M for $50k/yr, ~$2.5M for $100k/yr, ~$3.7M for $150k/yr (back-of-napkin).

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Importance of Milestones in Financial Independence

0:04 to 0:27

Discussing the significance of setting financial milestones for motivation.

“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”

Importance of Milestones in Financial Independence

1:24 to 2:18

Discussing the significance of setting financial milestones for motivation.

“So, Brent, over the years, we've come up with a lot of milestone markers that we want to share in order to help you guys stay on track with your financial wealth.”

Celebrating a $0 Net Worth Milestone

2:18 to 3:23

Exploring the importance of reaching zero net worth as a financial milestone.

“And these milestones are going to help out.”

Understanding Why Young People Have Higher Negative Net Worth

3:23 to 6:12

Analyzing reasons behind younger generations having a net worth of zero or negative.

“We want to get into actually what are the specifics.”

Strategies for Tracking Financial Progress

6:12 to 7:11

Tips on tracking net worth and setting financial goals effectively.

“When it comes to buying a car, we want you to follow 23-8.”

The First $100,000: A Crucial Milestone

7:11 to 7:54

Why reaching the first $100,000 in assets is significant for financial growth.

“And then once you do that, then you'll get excited because when you hit your second milestone, your first$100 ,000, you will be able to look back and see how much ground you covered that allowed you to get there.”

The Power of Compounding Growth

7:54 to 10:00

Understanding how compounding growth accelerates wealth building after reaching $100,000.

“Well, one, it shows that you have begun mastering the behavior of deferred gratification and building for the future.”

Achieving the Two Comma Club: Crossing $1 Million

10:00 to 14:01

Discussing the significance of reaching a total net worth of $1 million.

“And what's great is your behavior can impact how quickly this moves.”

Using the Compound Interest Calculator

14:01 to 14:35

Learn how to utilize a compound interest calculator for financial planning.

“if you want to play with some numbers, go to moneyguy.com slash resources and play with our compound interest calculator.”

Milestone Four: Crossing into Millionaire Status

14:36 to 15:38

Understand what it means to have a million-dollar net worth and its implications.

“It's where you get to say that I have a$1 million total net worth.”
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The Impact of Real Estate on Net Worth

15:39 to 16:43

Discover how rising real estate values contribute to millionaire status.

“A lot of folks, what has happened might be less so because of your behavior, less so because of your savings.”

Pros and Cons of Millionaire Status

16:44 to 18:04

Explore the advantages and drawbacks of being classified as a millionaire.

“And you see, unfortunately, the financial assets line, is flat.”

Milestone Five: The Liquid Millionaire

18:05 to 19:52

Learn about the transition to being a liquid millionaire with accessible assets.

“when it comes to this millionaire status.”

The Bowling Point in Wealth Accumulation

19:53 to 21:12

Understand the concept of the bowling point and its significance in wealth growth.

“These are true, easier access to liquidity in retirement.”

Saving Strategies for Millionaire Status

21:13 to 23:05

Discover effective saving strategies to reach financial milestones.

“Well, and I know the trolls because we've done this type of content before.”

Income Generation from Investment Portfolios

23:06 to 24:24

Learn how investment portfolios can generate income that surpasses salary.

“But now at this stage, your money can actually go out and work even harder than you do.”

Achieving Financial Independence

24:25 to 26:31

Understand the criteria for achieving true financial independence.

“that something's going right because in this moment in time, maybe it was outsized performance or good things that were going on in the market.”

Calculating Retirement Needs and Planning

26:32 to 28:00

Explore how to calculate retirement needs and the importance of a detailed plan.

“want to do the napkin plan to see what that number might be for you.”

Understanding Financial Independence Milestones

28:00 to 29:59

Learn about the key milestones on the journey to financial independence.

“How am I going to pay for health insurance?”

Understanding Financial Independence Milestones

30:00 to 31:05

Learn about the key milestones on the journey to financial independence.

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0:01Brian Preston:This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required, compatibility and availability varies 18+. When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use Indeed Sponsored Jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications and more.

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1:16And with that, let's jump right in.

1:24Brian Preston:So, Brent, over the years, we've come up with a lot of milestone markers that we want to share in order to help you guys stay on track with your financial wealth. Because we know that building towards financial independence is a marathon, not a sprint. But a lot of times, we don't want to just wait for that one finish line. We like to have small little markers, small little wins along our path to get there. Yeah. I mean, like you said, our people are achievers. And what I like about this is that there's no time frame. This is going to hit certain people at different times. There's no right or wrong answer.

2:01But what I do like is that on this journey, as you said, a marathon, I think you can get overwhelmed if you're trying to figure out how do I reach this successful point. It is so, so important if you can add milestones so you kind of know right where you are or what you should be aspiring to next. And these milestones are going to help out.

2:19Brian Preston:And these milestones don't happen in a specific order. For you, they might happen in the order that we're going to share them, but for others, it may happen a different order, and that is okay. So let's start, Brian, sort of what I think for most people, which is at the very beginning, and this one, it seems interesting, but it is a milestone that's worth celebrating that's actually reaching a$0 net worth. Well, think about it. A lot of us come out with a lot of weight on top of us, whether it's student loan debt, or maybe you made some bad consumption decisions when you first got that credit card opportunity.

2:53So to reach zero is a big milestone to actually celebrate.

2:58Brian Preston:Yeah, there was actually a study from Credit Karma that found that as many as 31%, one out of three Americans have a net worth of zero or less. And if you're in the younger generation, it might actually be a little bit higher. Gen Z, 41 % of Gen Zs have a negative net worth in millennials. 38%, so almost 40 % of millennials, just getting to zero is an accomplishment in and of itself. So why is it specific that younger people have a higher zero net worth? We want to get into actually what are the specifics. First of all, you just don't have a lot of assets yet. Yeah, they're likely early on in their career.

3:36Brian Preston:They don't have a lot of margin for investing. There's not a lot of money left over to actually be able to save. And in addition, they're young. They actually have not had a lot of time for what little they have invested to actually begin working for them just yet. Now, I feel like our job when people, because yes, you don't have, you haven't had a lot of time for your assets to grow. You haven't had a lot of time to even start saving and building these assets. But I don't want you to get down because you need to recognize you are literally a billionaire of time. and for all those that are ahead of you, when you look at people in their 30s and 40s, go, man, I wish I had what they had.

4:12I promise you, they're looking at you and saying, I wish I had the time that they had. And let us give you some illustration on this. If you start thinking about what you would have to save monthly to reach a million dollars, look at what a person who is 45 years of age, they would have to save and invest$1 ,800, greater than$1 ,800 a month to be a millionaire by the time they reach retirement at 65. For the 30-year-old, they would have to save$340 a month to reach millionaire status. But if you are in your 20s and you have just$95 a month, less than$100 a month will make you a millionaire.

4:53Brian Preston:The earlier you start, the easier it is, the more powerful your dollars can be. But obviously, starting out at these smaller sums, you stay negative net worth for a while. It takes a number of$95 a month to likely get you into positive territory because a lot of young folks coming out right now have a lot of debt. Maybe you just graduated college and you had to take on student loan debt, or maybe you went to go buy your very first automobile and you'd have cash to be able to pay for it in cash. You had to borrow money. So it's not uncommon for folks starting out, especially those in the younger generations, to start with a negative net worth.

5:33Brian Preston:They're just trying to crawl up to get to a dead zero starting place. Well, and look, I want everybody to, even though you might be starting out with debt, you haven't had a lot of time to build assets, I still want you to stay motivated because this is the reality. Give it some time. You are fresh. You're still trying to figure out, how's the career working out? You're trying to figure out what you believe and understand about money. We're hopefully going to help you out with that. But it is one of those things, you need to focus on what you can control. And in the beginning, what you can control is your consumption.

6:03What type of car do you drive? How much debt and how do you use credit cards? These things are important and you definitely can shape your future.

6:11Brian Preston:And there are rules in place that will help you with that. When it comes to buying a car, we want you to follow 23-8. When it comes to taking on college debt, we want you to follow the first year financing rule. And if you can do those things, you're gonna put guardrails around the financial decisions that you're making. And then as you begin to do that, we want you to track it. We want you to be doing an annual net worth statement. If you're not doing that, you're missing out, even if you're starting out on the negative, because you will not believe how much ground you can cover in one, two, three, four, five years.

6:43Brian Preston:And as you start to see it slowly start moving, whether you're going from really negative to slightly less negative, or from less negative to zero, or from zero to positive, tracking it every year might be that motivation you need to stay on the path. It's also gonna be a fun thing to celebrate in the future. I started tracking my net worth annually when I was 31 years of age. Bo, I think you started it in your 20s. I was 20. It is definitely something, even if it's negative, it's a very healthy habit. Start now. And then once you do that, then you'll get excited because when you hit your second milestone, your first$100 ,000, you will be able to look back and see how much ground you covered that allowed you to get there.

7:24So look, we like milestone number two, that first$100 ,000. When we talk about the first$100 ,000, we're talking about what does it look like when you add up both your emergency reserves, your Roth IRA, your 401k. These are all your financial assets. Guys, it is amazing when your army of dollar bills starts doing some of this work for you.

7:46Brian Preston:Now, they say the first$100 ,000 is the hardest, and that may be true, but it's also likely the most important money you will build. And why is it the most important? Well, one, it shows that you have begun mastering the behavior of deferred gratification and building for the future. Most people do not accidentally stumble upon having$100 ,000 of liquid assets at their disposal. They made the active decision to defer some of their income for tomorrow. They allowed that money to be invested, to grow, and it is a sign that you are making decisions that are going to make your future your financial life better.

8:22Now, look, I don't want to make this something it's not. So reaching 100 ,000 is not full critical mass, meaning you have not launched, your money is not making more than your day job yet. But I got to tell you, it is starting to work for you. And we actually have a great illustration to show you how powerful this first$100 ,000 is. Now, if we're being honest, if you were saving$10 ,000 a year, that's about$833 a month and you're making a reasonable 8 % a year rate of return on that, it is going to take you about seven and a half years, 7.6 years specifically to get to that first$100 ,000. But Bo, that's not where the magic, that's where the hard work was.

9:06But show them how the power of compounding growth,

9:09Brian Preston:where is the magic? Yeah, if you continue contributing just that$10 ,000 a year, do you recognize, And that same amount of time that it took you to go from zero to a hundred thousand, you will go from 500 ,000 to a million dollars. What took you seven and a half years to build up a hundred thousand dollars by the end of the journey, getting to a million, that same amount of time will create five times the wealth. The bigger your dollars get, the bigger the dollars get and the faster the money grows. So, you know, everybody who's seeing this out there on YouTube, you see the graphic we put up. But for our podcast listeners, Bo is describing going from$500 ,000 to a million dollars in the same amount of time, actually less than what it took to build that first$100 ,000.

9:54So this is not fully critical mass, but man, oh man, is it a powerful milestone to celebrate.

10:00Brian Preston:And what's great is your behavior can impact how quickly this moves. Let's talk about if your goal were to save$100 ,000, how long would it take you at different savings rates? We're already set. If you're doing$833 a month, it would take you about 7.6 years to build up to$100 ,000. If you can save$1 ,000 a month, that number drops to 6.4 years. If you can save $1 ,500 a month, it'll only take you about four and a half years to build up to$100 ,000. If you can save$2 ,000 a month, it will take you right at three and a half years to build up to that $100 ,000. That means that you could not only reach milestone one, but also milestone two in three and a half years if you have the shovel that allows you to do that.

10:43I love the quote we put on the slide is that wealth building can feel slow, but you do have control where you can actually speed this process up. And by the way, this is an echo of what we talked about even under milestone one. We want you to be active and track your net worth. And there's no better way to do this than with our net worth tool. If you go to learn.moneyguy.com, you can see the exact net worth tool that Bo and I are using for ours. And what I love about this tool is it's got a great dashboard that actually tracks some of these milestones so you can be the perfect CEO or field general for your army of dollars.

11:19Brian Preston:All right, Brian. So we're tracking these milestones. And the first two, getting to zero and then getting to$100 ,000, require that you do a lot of work. But the more work that you do, you now create an environment where now your money starts to do some work. And milestone number three is a pretty exciting one. It's where your money, your investments are actually saving harder than you save. Well, you guys know when you start out, I remember, you know, starting out, I was excited when I got to$100 a month. And then I can remember as my wife and I got some promotions, we got to$500. And then it was a go out and celebrate by going out to eat when we got to saving and investing$1 ,000 a month.

12:01And what's really cool about that is you're thinking about how hard you're saving, but there will be a point, just like when we were talking about that first$100 ,000, where your money, because of the hard work of saving, that you're going to see a return on that investment that starts to exceed what your savings rate is. And you're like, whoa, this is what I'm talking about. My money is actually is starting to do more than what I had to do just through discipline.

12:25Brian Preston:Yeah, think about this math. If you have a portfolio worth$93 ,750 and you earn an 8 % rate of return on that, your rate of return would generate$7 ,500 per year. That's the max contribution for Roth IRA. So if you're putting money in your Roth and you have 93 ,000, it's like your money made an extra Roth contribution for you. If you have$306 ,250 saved and invested and you make 8%, well, now your portfolio made$24 ,500 in a year. That may be more than you're putting in your 401k. That would actually max out a 401k. And what you'll see is as your portfolio grows and as the dollars get bigger and bigger, you'll start to recognize your portfolio will get to the point where it likely has the capacity and the ability to actually save more dollars per year, to actually add more to itself than you can save by exercising deferred gratification.

13:21What I like is when you start reaching these milestones, it's not like you stop doing the good behavior. You're actually getting two Roth IRA contributions that year. Your money's saving this much. You're still contributing your$7 ,500. Your account gets to$306 ,000. You put in$24 ,500 into your 401k, your account puts in$24 ,500. I can't tell you how many clients, when I have review meetings, when we've been clients for a number of years, I show them the partnership of what the assets are growing while they're contributing. It truly is a partnership of letting your money work just as hard as your discipline.

14:00Brian Preston:And if you want to see this in real time, if you want to play with some numbers, go to moneyguy.com slash resources and play with our compound interest calculator. You can put in your numbers, your information, and you can see just how quickly the numbers begin to stack. You can see just how powerful your army of dollar bills become. And if you're doing these things and you're playing with a compound interest calculator and you're saving for the future, you're tracking your net worth, if you do it long enough, you're likely gonna hit milestone number four. And milestone number four, it's a big one.

14:33Brian Preston:It's when you finally cross into the two comma club. It's where you get to say that I have a$1 million total net worth. Now, that is a big, you got to think about what do we say? Total net worth. So this is inclusive of everything. This is, yes, it's your investment, but this might also be your real estate or your primary residence. And for a lot of people, especially if you bought a house pre-2021, you might very well have experienced almost a 50 to 100 % appreciation in your primary residence. That's going to give you a huge boost towards reaching millionaire status total net worth. But I think it's worth recognizing.

15:17Brian Preston:So when you look at your net worth, it's everything that you own minus everything that you owe. Well, if you look across the entire United States of America, only 9 % of folks can do that math. Add up everything they own, subtract out everything they owe, and that difference be over a million dollars. Only 9 % of folks cross into that category. So if you are a millionaire, you're already in pretty prestigious, pretty elite company. But Brian already alluded to this. A lot of folks, what has happened might be less so because of your behavior, less so because of your savings. and more so because of what has happened that's somewhat outside of your control.

15:55Brian Preston:Because when we look at the median net worth of households in this country and how much of that is represented by financial assets versus non-financial assets, you can see that since 2020, since the pandemic, since we've seen the run-up in real estate prices, a lot of folks, the reason they're now crossing into millionaire status, the reason that they're now actually able to say I'm a millionaire is because their primary residence has gone up so much in value that it's created paper equity for them on their net worth. Yeah, this is one of those things I remember when this research came out and it was talking about and it was bragging about how net worths of US households had gone up.

16:33Like, I think it was greater than 30%. At first, the headline was so exciting. But then when I looked at this chart and you look at what the Federal Reserve was actually tracking, they have financial assets separated from net worth. And you see, unfortunately, the financial assets line, is flat. So from 1989 all the way through 2022, it's kind of flat, meaning Americans are not necessarily creating the separation of their army of dollar bills. And that's why I felt like it made sense if we laid out the pros and definitely the cons of what it means to cross into millionaire status or two comma club, as you said, counting your home equity.

17:13Brian Preston:So what's the pro? Number one, you're a millionaire. And we don't want to take that away from anyone. Even if the reason you're a millionaire is because your home equity has increased, you still made the decision to buy a home. You still did the hard work of being able to put down a down payment and cover the mortgage. So it is something worth celebrating. You are in fact a millionaire, even if a lot of that is comprised of your home equity. And because you have a lot of equity in your home, technically, you can access that equity. You could potentially take out a home equity line or do some sort of cash out refinance.

17:45Brian Preston:It is wealth that is there that if you had to, you could access it. Or if you're someone who your retirement plan later on in life is that I'm going to sell my home and downsize and then I'll capitalize on that increase in value, that is a viable strategy. Those are all net positives to being a millionaire, even if a lot of that's equity. But it's not all positives when it comes to this millionaire status. Well, and that's why I don't mind, you know, breaking the seal off of the negatives here is because you should celebrate that you've crossed into millionaire net worth, but you live in this house.

18:21This is your shelter for your family. And you should know that when you cross into and you're trying to figure out if you're truly financial independent, unfortunately, you can't eat the house. That's right. It's not going to, the only way you can actually use the equity in your house is you either have to borrow off of it, which is far from kind of building financial independence, taking on debt when you need it is less than ideal. And the only other way is to sell the house, which is we just covered is your shelter. More than likely, you're going to have to replace that shelter. So you either have to downsize or you just are losing the ability to really maximize how this is going to serve or feed you in retirement.

19:00Brian Preston:And then another negative or another financial con that we see is that oftentimes this can give you a false sense of security. You're doing your annual net worth statement because you're marking your primary residence at what you estimate the market value to be or what Zillow says. It makes you feel like, oh, I'm doing really good. I'm building wealth. I'm bettering my financial circumstance when in reality, it might not be because of your behavior at all. It might just be because of some perhaps accurate, perhaps inaccurate estimate of what your real estate is worth. We want you to be careful.

19:31Brian Preston:We want you to celebrate, but we don't want you to celebrate too much on this milestone because we think where you really want to celebrate and where you can really get excited about behavioral decisions that you're making is in milestone number five. That's when you actually cross into the two-comma club and become a liquid millionaire in net worth. This is a big distinction. And when we talk about liquid millionaire, now, of course, take into account your emergency reserves, but this is where that Roth IRA, your 401k, all of your investment assets, even your retirement accounts, when you add those up, now you're crossing into the seven-figure status or two-comma club with your investment assets.

20:11And guess what? You can eat off of these. These are true, easier access to liquidity in retirement.

20:18Brian Preston:And why does this get exciting? Because as your assets grow, you begin now reaching the... Brian, what's the point? What kind of point is it that you reach when your assets get... Bowling point. Bowling point. That's the one. You reach it. Because look, you realize if you have$1 ,000 saved up and you make 10%, you make 100 bucks. That's great and it's wonderful, but it's not life-changing. $10 ,000 saved up, you make 10%, you make 1 ,000 bucks. $100 ,000 saved up and you make 10%, you make$10 ,000. But once you get to a million dollars, once you get into that seven-figure realm and you make a 10 % rate of return, well, now your portfolio has grown by$100 ,000.

20:57Brian Preston:That is likely more than you save in a year. that may even be more than you make in a year. It is a substantial sum of money. The bigger the dollars get, the bigger the dollars get, and the more impactful your rate of return becomes on your overall financial circumstances. Well, and I know the trolls because we've done this type of content before. When we talk about millionaire status, a lot of them are quick to tell you, hey, man, inflation has been just something horrible. A million dollars is not what it used to be. Okay, there's some valid points to that. But let me tell you, just like we shared earlier on that first$100 ,000 that took eight years to get to the first, but then we could build from$500 ,000 to a million with the exact same time, but it's just fivefold.

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21:41What do you think when we're on our journey to building$2 million, to build$5 million? Guys, your army of dollar bills gets really powerful. The compounding growth is doing magical stuff once you reach this bowling point.

21:56Brian Preston:And again, you get to have some control over this in terms of how fast you do it. If you can invest$1 ,000 a month, and let's say that you earn 8 % on average, it'll take you about 25 and a half years to make it to a million dollars. But if you can invest$2 ,000 a month, now you cut your time frame down to 18.4 years. If you can invest$3 ,000 a month, it'll only take you about 14 and a half years to get to a million. And if you can invest$4 ,000 a month, you could build up a million dollars in 12.3 years. Well, how does this work for most people? Well, most people, they start by saving$100 a month and it increases to 200 and then to 500 and then to a thousand.

22:39Brian Preston:If you can start today and you can save and be consistent, then you can get slightly better through time. What you end up doing is you end up stacking. So you get to the first$100 ,000, that$100 ,000 turns into a million. And then you get a little bit better at saving, and the million turns into two million. And the two million turns into three million. And it becomes this unbelievably powerful snowball that as you continue to build it, and as it continues to gain momentum, now you reach this next milestone, milestone number six, where not only is your money saving harder than you can. But now at this stage, your money can actually go out and work even harder than you do.

23:21Look, you guys know, we have shared it in content before is that a lot of the research shows that, and we just showed you too, it's going to take 20 plus a year to reach that first millionaire status with your investment assets specifically. So I'm beyond that age now. I'm in my 50s. And I'll tell you, one of the things we get to this certain age and you're around other successful people, this is one of those milestones that I will tell you is a fun little thing that I've talked with friends and neighbors about is that you will open your quarterly report and you'll look at your investment statements and you'll be like, holy cow, my money has now reached a level.

23:59Now this is not full financial independence because this is just a moment in time, a snapshot at this moment. But when you look at that quarterly statement and you say, wait a minute, my account went up. How much? Wait a minute. How much did I make? How much? I went to work and I made the, my portfolio made more money for me than I did going to work. That's an indicator. You're not at full financial independence because we're out to stress test this. We're out to figure it all out. But it is a pretty strong indicator that something's going right because in this moment in time, maybe it was outsized performance or good things that were going on in the market.

24:33It did more than you can with your back, your brain, and even your hands. That is powerful and that's very motivating.

24:40Brian Preston:Yeah, let's put some numbers in. Let's assume that you have a salary or an income of$60 ,000 per year. Well, once your portfolio hits$750 ,000, if you can earn an 8 % annualized rate of return, that rate of return was generate for you$60 ,000 a year in growth. If you make$90 ,000 a year, a portfolio of about$1.125 million earning 8 % would make$90 ,000 a year. If you make $120 ,000 a year,$10 ,000 a month, but you can build up a portfolio to a million and a half dollars. A million and a half dollars earning 8 % annualized grows at a clip of about$120 ,000 per year. At this threshold, your dollars, your portfolio can actually work and generate more income, more return than you can on your own.

25:36Brian Preston:Brian, you've already alluded to this. It's not financial independence yet, but it is indeed moving in the right direction. Well, think about it because this is just a snapshot in this moment in time. There's still inflation you have to take into account. There's sequence of return risk. There's your specific needs in retirement. Are you going to be debt-free? Are the kids out of the house? There's lots of things that go into it. But as I said earlier, still a really strong indicator that you're moving in the right direction. And once you've done that, as you continue moving in that right direction, you do hit milestone number seven.

26:08Brian Preston:And milestone number seven is exactly what we have been describing. Financial independence, where now you have solved the money problem. You get to do what you want to do the way you want to do it on your own terms. And you've built a portfolio that can sustain and provide for you not only today, but also for the rest of your life. Now, for a lot of you who consume personal finance content, you're going want to do the napkin plan to see what that number might be for you. And something that a lot of people talk about when they're doing napkin planning is they do the safe withdrawal rate, you know, and the 4 % rule is really popular.

26:45So we figure why not? Now, look, there's some nuances. This is even potentially you could increase this beyond 4 % depend upon what age you decide that you're going to retire. But for just conversation sake, if you need$50 ,000, you would need a portfolio of about$1.2 million. If you want$100 ,000 in retirement, you would need a little right around$2.5 million. And for$150 ,000 in retirement, you would need$3.7 million.

27:14Brian Preston:Now, again, you already said this. This is back of the napkin math. This is very rudimentary planning. When it actually comes time for you to reach financial independence. We want to make sure that you have a portfolio that is at a number that can provide for the specific life that you want to live. And it should factor in expenses that you have on a normal and ongoing basis, and then irregular expenses, and account for inflation, and sequence of return, and social security, and different retirement income sources you might have. And we want you to actually stress test that plan, not just to make sure that I have a generalized plan that generally 4 % would work.

27:52Brian Preston:But no, I know specifically what my cash flows are going to look like from the time I retire. If I retire at 60, I want to answer the question from 60 to age 95, what are my base level living expenses? How am I going to pay for health insurance? How often am I going to replace my cars? What do I want my travel budget to look like? How am I going to help my kids? And you have actually modeled that out and stress tested it to make sure the pot of assets you've built up can actually sustain with a high probability of success that lifestyle that you want to live. When you've done that and you've reached a high probability of success, that's when we would argue that you are actually at milestone number seven, financial independence.

28:33I love this type of content because guys, we're just taking you through seven key milestones where we literally took you from just, you know, baby bird status to you leave the nest. And now you're trying to figure out is, do you own the nest? Do you get to be financially independent? Where are you at in your journey? And all these milestones are going to be building experience. They're going to be building wisdom, but I think you're going to probably get close to financial independence, or maybe you're approaching in the next five years. And part of wisdom is looking at the situation going, man, I just don't know what I don't know.

29:09And you start going, holy cow, I have come so far, but I've never done this before. I've never managed a multiple seven-figure portfolio. What happens if this thing goes down 20 or 30 % or do I have enough? Am I structured right from a tax standpoint? Man, oh man, do I not like giving uncle more than I should? All these things are going to be playing out in your head. Instead of you trying to figure out how you go about this all alone, It's that taking that simple portfolio that you try to design and realize you've reached through success complexity, we'll leave the porch light on. We can help you with this.

29:47We've literally helped thousands of people build financial independence. We know where the blind spots. You do not have to figure this out all by yourself. We'll leave that porch light on for you. All you have to do is go to our website, consider becoming a client, remember who started the abundance cycle and planted all the seeds of knowledge. I'm your host, Brian, joined by Mr. Bo. Money Guy team, out.

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