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18 Aug 2026 · 17m · 12 chapters

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5 Things Rich People Refuse to Buy

In short

“5 Things Rich People Refuse to Buy” and the research-backed psychology behind each choice, plus a “socks guy” spending filter and an exception/nuance section.

Guests/backgrounds

Daniel Burke (host). Featured examples include a ~$3B founder who advises “keep driving the Chevrolet,” a founder who lost 95% of net worth overnight and won’t buy socks (wife buys them), Brian Johnson (“Don’t Die”): spends ~$2M/year on his body and avoids other spending, and Dr. Becky (parenting psychologist) plus Anne Mahlum (Solidcore founder/sold for ~$100M; ~$115M net worth; spends ~$200k/month).

Key claims + examples

No first class (hedonic adaptation; lottery winners’ happiness doesn’t rise). No new cars (Ford F-150 common among millionaires; commute happiness unrelated to car value). No meaningless stuff (dopamine/insula pain; credit cards reduce price pain; Amazon anticipation > ownership). No angel checks (many angel deals underperform; opportunity cost; “attention residue”). Kids fly coach (wealth often disappears by generation; parenting reliability affects self-control; first-class “comfort” can create entitlement).

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Chapters

1:05

The Five Things Rich People Won't Buy

Discover the five key items rich individuals typically avoid purchasing and why.

“that a lot of my friends ask me, which is why do people come on Money Wise and even tell you this type of stuff?”
1:50

First Class Flights: A Poor Kid Habit

Explore the mindset of wealthy individuals regarding first-class flights and comfort.

“It's the most common one by far, flying up front.”
3:54

The Value of Cars: Why Used is Better

Understand why rich people often choose to drive older, less expensive cars.

“Back to the$3 billion guy, he's never sold a company.”
5:58

Avoiding Meaningless Purchases

Learn how wealthy individuals view spending on trivial items and its psychological effects.

“what am I spending money on that is basically the same as lighting cash on fire?”
8:53

The Case Against Angel Investing

Delve into why rich individuals tend to avoid making angel investments.

“A great example of this is Brian Johnson, who sold Braintree for hundreds of millions of dollars.”
11:34

The Importance of Kids' Comfort

Examine the concerns wealthy parents have about spending on their children's comfort.

“founder, go check it out now at joinhampton.com.”
14:01

Understanding Parenting and Wealth

Explores how spending habits influence children's attitudes toward money.

“and in the way that they grow up and whether or not they become entitled based on if they flew first class.”
14:25

Five Purchases Rich People Avoid

Lists five items rich people refuse to buy and their reasoning.

“The list of five things that rich people say do not spend your money on.”
14:49

Challenging Conventional Spending Wisdom

Discusses exceptions to common financial advice through guest experiences.

“And if you sit through a hundred plus of these episodes like I did, there's an easy way out to say, all right, here's all the things that you don't want to spend your money on.”
15:41

The Impact of Money on Happiness

Examines recent research on income levels and life satisfaction.

“You've probably heard that happiness flatlines at$75 ,000 a year.”
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16:16

Valuable Spending: Time and Experiences

Encourages spending on experiences over material possessions for greater satisfaction.

“And this all matches what I see on the show.”
17:08

Evaluating Your Spending Habits

Offers practical advice on analyzing personal expenditures for better financial choices.

“Time, experiences, whatever version of their mission money can buy.”
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0:00One of the richest people I've ever had on Money Wise is worth about$3 billion. and his big money advice is to keep driving the Chevrolet. Another guest lost 95 % of his net worth overnight, built it all back, and the only time he gets new socks is when his wife buys them for him. He does not buy his own socks. And Brian Johnson, the don't die guy, spends$2 million a year on his body and told me he basically refuses to spend money on anything else. I'm Daniel Burke, I host Money Wise, and I went back through 100 episodes of Rich People breaking down where their money actually goes. And somewhere in the middle of that binge, I started noticing the same five things come up over and over again.

0:41So I started Googling, and it turns out there's about 50 years of research explaining why they act like this. Nobody sent these guys the studies. They just ended up in the same spot, and it's what a lot of rich people resonate with with how they spend their money. So today's episode is five things rich people won't buy and the science behind each one. Stick around for the end because there's a version of this that ruins people, and I've had those guests on too. First, I want to answer the question that a lot of my friends ask me, which is why do people come on Money Wise and even tell you this type of stuff?

1:11Well, Money Wise is brought to you by Hampton, which is a private community of founders, and a lot of the guests that we have on Money Wise come from Hampton. These are people that are already used to talking about real numbers behind closed doors, how their exit was, what they did with the money, how much they made. They say all these things in their private core groups, which is a group of founders that they meet with every single month. And Money Wise is kind of framed a little bit like what those core groups are like, except I talk one-on-one with some of these founders and high net worth individuals.

1:41And so if that's the type of community that you want to be a part of, that you want to check out, go to joinhampton.com. It's a great community. I highly recommend checking it out if you haven't already. Okay, number one, things that rich people will not spend money on, and it's first class. It's the most common one by far, flying up front. Our biggest episode ever is called How Rich is Rich Enough to Fly Private. The guest in that episode was a crazy wealthy guy, and he said, I still fly coach unless it's international. I can barely see the value in flying first. He called it his poor kid habit.

2:13I love that. I heard the same thing from a guest worth around 120 million who told me that he has friends with way more money who simply cannot imagine not flying economy. They cannot make themselves click the upgrade button. So the science on this one, very interesting. There's a thing called hedonic adaptation. And if you only remember one idea from this video, make it this one. Whatever you upgrade, your brain gets used to really, really fast. It's another way to say lifestyle creep or lifestyle inflation. You get a bump and then you slide right back to where you were before. The famous study here is from the 70s.

2:45Researchers went and found lottery winners, people who hit the actual jackpot. Within about a year, they were no happier than their neighbors. The crazy thing about this is that the actual lottery winners scored lower than regular people on enjoying everyday stuff, like breakfast or conversations with friends. Winning the lottery made their normal life worse. Their bar for happiness moved, and it never moved back. And comfort is the fastest version of this type of lifestyle creep. First time you fly first class, you feel like you made it. Third time, it's just a seat. Except now coach, which was fine for your entire life up until that point, feels more like a punishment.

3:28You paid four times the fare, but what you actually bought was a worse experience of coach. I think the guys who don't upgrade the seats understand that. Even if they've never read this study, they realize, why would I pay three to five times the coach seat for a first class seat if it's just not three to five times better? If it doesn't add three to five times the value to my life, why spend the money on it? Number two is new cars. Back to the$3 billion guy, he's never sold a company. And he told me that they'll never spend all the money that he has. His money is going to outlast everyone in the family.

4:04And his advice to people coming up is don't go buy the Ferrari. Just drive the Chevrolet or the Ford that you already own. And data backs this up in a really funny way. There's this book called The Millionaire Next Door. There's two researchers who spent years surveying millionaires. and the most popular car was a Ford F-150. About half of them had never paid more than 30 grand for a vehicle. The flashy cars were mostly being driven by high earners with almost no net worth. The authors got a phrase for it from a Texas rancher. It became big hat, no cattle. My favorite study on this is when researchers asked drivers how they actually felt during their last commute and they checked it against what their car was worth.

4:46And what's interesting is that there was literally no relationship between happiness and commute and actual value of car. The person in the fancy BMW and the person in the used Civic feel the same on a Tuesday morning because while you're actually driving, you're thinking about a meeting or your kids or whatever podcast is on, ideally money-wise. Subscribe now if you haven't already. The nice car feeling only shows up when you're thinking about the car, which you'll find is basically never. So you pay 80 grand or 120 grand for a G-Wagon or some really fancy car. And you get that fleeting feeling for a moment or every now and again, maybe, I don't know, four times a year.

5:25But usually the actual day-to-day driving stuff, that actual happiness doesn't change that much from a used Civic to the very expensive fancy car. Number three is stuff. Yes, literally just stuff, meaningless things. The Sox guy from the earlier episode, he was a founder and he lost 95 % of his net worth overnight. He said, if I get new socks, it's because my wife decided to buy me new socks. He doesn't spend. He spends only on things which he views as investments. So the question I think the rest of us should ask is, what am I spending money on that is basically the same as lighting cash on fire?

6:02There's some researchers at Stanford who put people in a brain scanner and then had them go shopping. When you see a product you want, your reward circuitry tends to light up. there's a bunch of dopamine that hits your brain. And then when you see the price and it's too high, a region called the insula fire, that's a region that processes physical pain. So every purchase is your brain doing a literal tug of war. Want versus hurt, which brings us to credit cards. MIT ran an auction for Celtics tickets. Half the bidders had to pay cash and half by card. The card bidders offered roughly double. They were exactly the same tickets, but because they were paying with a credit card, they just seemed to be numb to the amount of money that those tickets cost.

6:43And there's even more research about this that explains your Amazon habit, or my Amazon habit, should I say. The dopamine spike of shopping comes from anticipation, not getting the actual thing that you bought. It peaks before you actually acquire or own that specific item, that thing. That's why the best moment is the package on the doorstep. But then a couple days later, you couldn't even figure out or find where that thing that was on the package even went in your house. It immediately becomes junk. I think that's why the socks guy filter works. Does this dollar come back to me or is it gone as fast as it came?

7:18He's never had to out-discipline his own brain because that question, that filter does it for him. Is this an investment or is this a waste of money? All right, Money Wise listeners, quick reality check. It's that time of year when you catch yourself thinking, why didn't I start earlier? We knew summer was coming. It always does. And if you keep doing what you usually do, you'll blink and it'll be New Year's again. Same story, same body, same excuses. That's why today's sponsor is Daily Body Coach. Daily Body Coach is a premium online coaching service for ambitious entrepreneurs and executives who want their body to perform at the same level as their business.

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9:06I think you should go watch it. He told us on Money Wise that he doesn't spend any money frivolously. He's very frugal. And then he also said he doesn't make any angel investments, none. From a guy who could write hundreds of checks without even noticing it in his balance sheet, he doesn't write any. So I went looking for the actual data on angel investing. The largest study ever done on angel returns looked at over a thousand exits. About half returned less than the money that were put in from angels. And roughly 7 % of the deals produced three quarters of all the returns. So unless you're in enough deals to catch one of the 7%, you're paying for a lottery ticket.

9:47Literally no different. And as we all know, ideally a lot of us have resonated with this already in our lives the most expensive asset the most valuable asset we have is time and so if you're paying for a lottery ticket that also steals your time it's a double whammy there's also a very obvious bias working with angel checks that i hadn't heard before i dug into the research opportunity cost neglect in research-backed studies people deciding whether to buy something almost never stop and think about what else that money could do and when researchers just add a reminder like hey if you skip this you keep the $700 for other stuff, people's decisions changed by a lot, which is proof that if you're not met with that resistance, your brain is comparing a purchase to nothing.

10:28And the last thing here is the attention piece. There's research on task switching showing that when you jump between things, a chunk of your brain stays stuck on the last thing. They call it attention residue. Every angel check you write is an open tab in your head forever. And I think that's what Brian johnson is actually protecting he obviously has enough money to write angel checks but he's choosing to protect that bandwidth in his brain so that he's not inundated with distractions and i'll tell you this exact argument whether angel investing is worth it is one i've watched and listened to and been a part of inside the hampton community over and over again there's over a thousand founders comparing notes privately in their own private core groups which is a monthly meeting they have with people who know them, who they get to know about their business, their families, their money, their wealth.

11:18And they talk through what makes an investment good. Where should I spend my money? Where should I invest it? How should you be dealing with this resistance in a business or these challenges personnel? It's an awesome community. And I think you should look at it if you haven't already. If it's something that resonates with you as a founder or an exited founder, go check it out now at joinhampton.com. I promise you won't regret it. Okay. And the number five thing that rich people say, do not spend your money on. This is a weird one. It's kids comfort. Number five is the one that I struggle with personally.

11:51I have two kids and a third on the way. And the thing that wealthy people and wealthy parents on MoneyWise are scared of, it's not always losing their money, but it's the money that they have wrecking their kids. it comes up constantly, a lot of times without me even prompting it. We had Dr. Becky on, who's a parenting psychologist, and she came to Money Wise and we have a whole episode about this. And there's details in that episode about parents who could buy any seat on a plane, putting the whole family and coach on purpose. One of them basically said, if their kid melts down at 16 because they're flying coach, they can't even be mad because they learned that behavior and that reaction from the parents.

12:32Everyone knows the marshmallow test. Kid waits, kid gets two marshmallows, kid supposedly wins at life. But the follow-up study is the one that wealthy parents actually care about and have talked about on this show. Researchers at Rochester redid it with a bit of a twist. Before the marshmallow test, some kids experienced an adult keeping a promise and some experienced an adult breaking one. And the kid in the reliable group waited four times longer. So a kid that was already given a promise from an adult and that promise that was kept was actually able to be a lot more patient, up to four times as patient, based on whether a grownup kept their word 10 minutes earlier.

13:13So all that self-control stuff we treat like a bit of a personality trait or something that is genetic, it actually is a lot of times just coming from a kid being raised the right way. They're able to wait if waiting has ever been something that paid off for them. And a kid who's never uncomfortable never gets a wreck. The research on this is pretty brutal. The most cited study of wealthy families found that about 70 % of family money is gone by the second generation and 90 % is gone by the third. So you have parents who will pay for a tutor without blinking and then stick the family in row 34, which sounds inconsistent until you see the logic in the research.

13:51The tutor is still in that kid's head at 30, but that first class seat that you buy the kid is gone a couple hours later. and a lot actually happens in their behavioral psychology and in the way that they grow up and whether or not they become entitled based on if they flew first class. I mean, that's just, you know, spoiling your kids is something you can't really undo, at least not easily. So you always have to think as a parent, what am I doing with my money and am I making my kids better with that money or am I making their life more snooty? Are they going to become more entitled or a brat because of what I do with my money for them?

14:23So that's the list. The list of five things that rich people say do not spend your money on. One, no first class. Two, no new cars. Three, no meaningless, useless stuff. Four, no angel checks. And five, the kids fly coach. Okay, so here's a part that I'm actually just going to kind of pick apart my own episode here, because there's obviously exceptions. We've had people on Money Wise who spend gobs and gobs of money on whatever they want. And if you sit through a hundred plus of these episodes like I did, there's an easy way out to say, all right, here's all the things that you don't want to spend your money on.

14:59But we've had guests on where refusing to spend money was the impetus of their episode. And my favorite personally was Anne Mollum. She built and sold SolidCore for almost$100 million. She's worth around$115 million personally. And she forces herself to spend$200 ,000 a month. She came on and pushed back on all of this. She said, I hate when people don't spend on principle. That's just stupid advice. Her whole point was that you can hang on so tight that you strangle yourself with not spending money. And then you did all this work for what? You're not going to spend money even though you have$100 or$200 or$500 million?

15:40And there is research-backed science on Ann's side. You've probably heard that happiness flatlines at$75 ,000 a year. It's the most quoted money stat on the internet. Well, in 2023, the researcher behind it and the researcher who disagreed with him did something researchers almost never do. They teamed up and re-ran everything together. And for most people, more money kept making life better. Well past$75 ,000. The flatline only showed up in people who were already unhappy. Money couldn't fix their unhappiness. So the real question here is more about what you spend your money on. And there's research on that too.

16:15A big study out of Harvard and UBC found that people who used money to buy back time, like a cleaner in the house or some delivery or help around, you know, your children with a nanny, were more satisfied with their lives than people who just bought more stuff. And this all matches what I see on the show. Anne's$200 ,000 a month isn't sloppy by any stretch. She knows where every piece of it goes. And a lot of it is time and experiences. Meanwhile, I had a guest who exited for$13 million and nearly torched it all because, in his own words, he didn't have any idea what he was spending. He was cutting tutors and summer homes after the fact when it was almost too late.

16:55In hindsight, the Sox guy and Ann Mollum look a lot like opposites, but what they're doing is effectively the same thing. Basically spending nothing on the stuff that their brain adapts to, and way more than what might seem reasonable on the things that matter to them. Time, experiences, whatever version of their mission money can buy. So what in the world do you do with all this information? Well, I'm glad you asked. Takes about 10 minutes. Pull up last month's card statement, go line by line, and for each charge, ask the socks guy question. Does this dollar come back to me or is it gone? Then one more, stolen from the MIT study.

17:34If I'd have to pay cash for this, actually hand it over, would I have bought it? Whatever fails both questions is what we should call your, quote, first class seat. Go ahead and cut it and let the money pile up behind something you won't get used to, something that you'll actually value. Every episode I mentioned in this episode is in the Money Wise channel. The$3 billion founder, Brian Johnson, Dr. Becky, and Malam. I'm going to drop all the links below and I'll put the studies in the description as well. Last thing, if you run a company doing$3 million or more, or if you've exited a company for$10 million or more, you absolutely need to go check out joinhampton.com.

18:08Hampton is a private community of founders who talk all about stuff like what we've discussed today in this episode. And it's private. There's core groups. People meet with their people every month. They have people who know their families, who know their businesses, who understand the unique challenges they're facing in building high growth businesses. And if you're building a high growth business right now and you don't have a community like that, it's like playing the game on hard mode. There are easier ways to do this. and Hampton makes those things come to life in the Hampton community. So check it out at joinhampton.com.

18:40If you haven't already subscribed to the Money Wise channel, please do that right now. That really helps me out and I love to hear from my listeners. So if you do have comments or feedback, find me on X at Daniel C. Burke and I'll see you next time. Thank you for listening.

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We're still surprised people did this but... 50+ founders worth $10M to $4B reveal their personal finances. Here it is: https://joinhampton.com/mw-wr

Why do we do this? Because if you're an aspirational person or someone who runs a business and is making money, it's incredibly challenging to figure out what to do. Information is impossible to find — and that's what we put together: the net worth reveal and why we do this podcast, Moneywise.

A $3 billion founder's money advice: keep driving the Chevrolet. Here's why the richest guests all say the same five things.

After 100+ episodes of Moneywise, the same five spending refusals kept showing up — from a $3B founder who's never sold a company, a guy who lost 95% of his net worth and won't buy his own socks, and Bryan Johnson, who spends $2M a year on his body and almost nothing on anything else. None of them read the research. There's 50 years of it, and they all landed in the same place anyway.

This episode covers all five: first class, new cars, meaningless stuff, angel checks, and kids' comfort — plus the study behind each one (lottery winners, the MIT Celtics auction, the marshmallow test follow-up). Then Anne Mahlum, who sold SolidCore for nearly $100M and forces herself to spend $200K/month, tears the whole list apart. The episode ends with a 10-minute exercise using two questions that decide what stays on your card statement.

Also, this podcast is made by Hampton, which is a community for founders doing on average $20 million a year in revenue. We saw a lot of these money conversations happening privately behind closed doors and we thought, "What the heck, let's make it public." If you are a founder, apply here: http://joinhampton.com/mw

Episodes Mentioned:
How Rich Is 'Rich Enough' to Fly Private? — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZyTo6gppPw
"I'm worth about $3 billion": What Happens When You DON'T Sell Your Business — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZM0K9eqzx0
What It's Like to Lose 95% of Your Net Worth Overnight (the socks guy) — https://youtu.be/fW-F3MKwevI
Bryan Johnson: I Probably Won't Actually Live Forever — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icWHq_xjhac
How to Not Ruin Your Kids with Your Wealth ft. Dr. Becky — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1SmMA-nLk

Timestamps:
0:00 — Cold open: the $3B founder, the socks guy, and Bryan Johnson's $2M body budget
0:28 — 100 episodes in, the same five patterns kept repeating — and 50 years of research explains them
1:05 — Why guests reveal their real numbers on Moneywise
1:50 — #1: First class. "I still fly coach unless it's international" — his "poor kid habit"
2:27 — Hedonic adaptation, and the lottery winners who scored lower on enjoying breakfast
3:52 — #2: New cars. The $3B founder's advice: don't buy the Ferrari, drive the Chevrolet
4:14 — The Millionaire Next Door data (most popular millionaire car: Ford F-150), "big hat, no cattle"
4:40 — The commute study: zero relationship between car value and happiness
5:35 — #3: Stuff. The socks guy's filter: "Does this dollar come back to me or is it gone?"
6:03 — Stanford brain scans: every purchase is want vs. hurt
6:28 — The MIT Celtics auction — credit card bidders paid double
7:26 — #4: Angel checks. Bryan Johnson writes none — half of deals lose money, 7% produce 75% of returns
8:41 — Opportunity cost neglect and attention residue: every check is an open tab in your head
10:15 — #5: Kids' comfort. Parents who could buy any seat, flying the family in coach on purpose
11:06 — The marshmallow test follow-up wealthy parents actually care about
12:11 — 70% of family money gone by generation two, 90% by generation three
13:17 — The counterargument: Anne Mahlum ($115M, spends $200K/month) — "I hate when people don't spend on principle"
14:19 — The 2023 rerun of the $75K happiness study, and buying back time
15:55 — The 10-minute exercise: two questions to run against last month's card statement
16:33 — If you run a $3M+ company: Hampton

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