Brazilian Users Panic After X Ban & Ticketmaster Fumbles Again?

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0:27Good Morning Brew Daily Show. I'm Neil Freiman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, is X going to give it to you? Not in Brazil, where the social media app has been shut down. Then is momentum building to finally abolish the humble penny? It's Tuesday, September 3rd. Let's ride.

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3:08The screen time reports for people living in Brazil were way down over the long weekend after X was blocked in the country following a legal dust-up between Elon Musk and a Supreme Court justice. X got the axe after refusing to appoint a local legal representative to handle requests to ban users from the platform. But it was the culmination of a monk's long tiff between Elon Musk and Justice Alexandre de Moraes that dates back to the spring when de Moraes ordered X to block dozens of account allegedly spreading misinformation. but many of the targeted accounts were associated with Brazil's ex-president Bolsonaro.

3:46So Musk and some critics viewed de Marias's order as an attempt to weaponize the legal system to stifle political speech. And Elon is not a big fan of stifling speech. He initially complied with the order, but then reversed course, accusing the government of attempted censorship. Things have devolved into some name-calling sense with Musk deeming the judge to be an outright criminal of the worst kind and calling him Dictator de Voldemort. But caught in the crossfire are 40 million monthly ex-users in the country who are now turning to VPNs to try and access the site, despite the judge threatening fines of up to$9 ,000 a day for trying to skirt the ban.

4:25It is a complete mess, Neil. Totally. I mean, we should just be clear about this. This is a very extreme move for the Brazilian judge. First of all, he could do it by himself. He was granted powers a few months ago to unilaterally order social media companies to shut down certain accounts, which was also a bit of an extreme move by the Brazil's judicial system to grant him this amount of power. And then he goes and shuts down X after a back and forth with Elon Musk. Even internet law professors call this the most extreme judicial decision out of a Brazilian court in 30 years of internet law in Brazil.

5:06One of the most dramatic things that the judge did was order a fine of people for using VPNs. And VPNs are ways that you can access certain sites by scrambling your geographic address. And these fines are huge. I mean, almost$9 ,000 a single day for downloading a VPN and using it to access X. The average Brazilian makes$530 a month. So it is far in excess of the monthly wage. But the battle lines are being drawn because a panel of justice actually voted unanimously in favor of the ban on Monday to withhold his ban. And then the other thing that DeMarais did recently too is freeze the bank accounts of Starlink, which is Elon Musk's internet satellite company, to ensure that Elon's social media network X would pay the fine.

5:58So that's where some people are saying, okay, now you're overstretching, going after Elon's business empire just because they share a CEO, even though Starlink has nothing to do with this particular attempt to block X in the country. Starlink has 250 ,000 customers in Brazil, so they're caught in the crossfire as well. But it also just shows the amount of leverage that Elon Musk has in general. He can take on nations in a sense because he can also say, I will just poll coverage of Starlink in Brazil if you come after my social media company. So it is a very heavyweight dispute right now. Elon Musk has called for ending US foreign aid to Brazil.

6:37He's trying to get the very highest levels of government involved. But yeah, so you are just seeing just the sheer heft of Elon Musk's business empire and then also the ideological heft of this particular judge in Brazil. And Brazilians are famously very online. They spend an average of nine hours and 32 minutes online every single day, which is the second highest rate in the world after South Africa. So yes, Elon Musk has maybe some leverage here with his business empire, but at the same time, he's losing a lot of revenue, a lot of users because Twitter, while maybe not was, wasn't the biggest social media app in Brazil was its sixth largest market.

7:16So this is definitely not good for his business as long as this dispute keeps going. You see a lot of Brazilians going to other social media platforms. The biggest beneficiary of this ban does appear to be Blue Sky, which is the ex-rival. Since Saturday, about one million Brazilians have signed up for Blue Sky, which is equivalent to about one-sixth of the platform's total users before the ban. So they are seeing an influx. Threads is another ex-competitor from Meta that is seeing an influx, but maybe not as much as Blue Sky. You see a lot of Brazilians complaining about Thread's algorithm with one person saying, it's like an all-you-can-eat restaurant where the waiter keeps serving things I would never order.

7:58So maybe Zuck has to do a little rejiggering with his algorithm to make it a little bit better. So this has wide-reaching ramifications, and it's only just one of a spat between governments and social media companies that we've been seeing over the past few weeks. Right. And Elon Musk has a little bit of a spotty track record when it comes to enforcing this because under since he's taken over X, he has removed content critical of ruling parties in Turkey and India. But then at the same time, he's resisted those same calls in countries like Brazil and Australia. So people are Elon Musk says he's a proponent of free speech.

8:33And yet he's having a difficult time determining which countries he actually listens to and which ones he is a little bit more headstrong against. While many Americans spent the long weekend checking into hotels across the country, the people who work in those hotels were checking out. More than 10 ,000 hotel union employees in at least 25 U.S. cities from Honolulu to Boston went on strike beginning on Sunday for higher pay, increased staffing and reduced workloads. The initial wave of strikes involved mostly Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt employees, but the union representing the workers, Unite Here, said more cities and hotels could follow, potentially amounting to the largest hotel worker strike in U.S.

9:15history. So what's behind this labor turmoil on Labor Day? Hotel workers say that everything for them changed for the worse during COVID. Hotels cut staff when no one was traveling and launched cost-cutting efforts such as eliminating daily housekeeping that many have not brought back. Employees claim they're not being paid a living wage while working more to cover for positions that haven't been rehired. The hotel chains have responded that workers' wages have increased over the past couple of years, and they are committed to negotiating in good faith to reach a fair agreement. Still, this massive nationwide strike left them scrambling over the busy weekend and threatens to only grow from here.

9:54Right. Some union members said that since COVID, they're expecting us to get five-star service with three-star staff. COVID disrupted the hotel industry maybe more than any other industry out there. Housekeeping in particular has emerged as this key issue around this strike because during the pandemic, a lot of hotels cut staffing. They cut the typical maybe daily housekeeping and room service. And that did two things, which is, one, it caused people to lose income because they were cutting workers. But then it also created a much heavier workload for the remaining workers as well. So that's definitely a hot button issue.

10:29It just doesn't seem like the hotel management has kept up with the changes that have emerged in the travel industry, which has been a much more return to normal levels of travel. And yet the staff is still overwhelmed because they're still running on like COVID era kind of headcount and just amount of work that they have to do. Yes. Staffing is not back to 2019 levels. There are 196 ,000 fewer workers than in February 2019 than now in the hotel industry. Hotel staffing per occupied room fell by 13 percent from 2019 to 2022. So these workers are saying you're not bringing enough staff. We are overworked.

11:10This daily housekeeping thing that you eliminated actually amounts to more work for us because somebody living in their room for three to four days and us not keeping it clean is just making more work for us on the back end. Plus, we're losing the tips that come with that as well. The the hotel industry has responded saying, yeah, we're willing to negotiate in good faith. Let's come to the table and talk this out. They say that, you know, 86 percent of their hotels have increased wages and that the overall since the pandemic and that the average worker in the hotel industry has seen a pay bump of 26 percent.

11:44Still, workers say that's not enough. We have to work two jobs to make ends meet. I'm making$16 an hour here at the Baltimore Marriott, and I still have to drive Uber at night. Plus, this is very physically demanding work as well, and we need to reach a compromise for us to get more wages. If you are a DirecTV subscriber looking to catch the plethora of American men and women marching towards the finals of the U.S. Open, you were met with disappointment this weekend after ABC, ESPN, and a few other Disney-owned channels abruptly went dark on Sunday. The reason for the frustrating blackout was that Disney and DirecTV failed to come to an agreement on a new distribution deal.

12:26Both are pointing their fingers at each other. DirecTV wants to offer more flexible packages to its customers and blames Disney for being greedy and, quote, herding customers away from network TV onto its own streaming services. But Disney has fired back saying, listen, our channels are worth a lot. They cost a lot to produce. If you want them, pay up. Neil, to make matters worse, week one of the NFL season is looming this weekend, And so it's injected some added urgency to a cares dispute that has left 11 million direct TV customers in the lurch. I'm having deja vu because literally the same exact thing happened last year when Disney and Charter Spectrum, which is the another large pay TV provider, also had a dispute that led to a blackout of Disney owned channels last year over Labor Day weekend during the U.S.

13:18Open. And there was this scramble to get it back for Monday Night Football, which we all watched Aaron Rodgers get injured on. So they did resolve the dispute by then two weeks later. But this also, this blackout happened 10 minutes before the LSU game on Sunday night. So that was another big sort of problem that led to a lot of complaints by DirecTV subscribers. And yeah, you said it. Disney wants to charge more for its channels. DirecTV is saying, we don't think they're worth that much. And you're also being inflexible because at this time of people cutting the cord, they're balking at high prices.

13:57Meanwhile, you have all these streaming services offering more a la carte options. If you want family programming, you'll go to Disney+. If you want sports, you can go to ESPN. And there's just more ways you can slice and dice it. Media companies have not allowed distributors like DirecTV, like Charter, to do that according to those companies. and they want to do more genre-based bundle programming like a family package, like a sports package, like a particular skinny bundle so they can charge less and offer fewer channels. They say Disney and like are trying to say, are trying to smush everything together.

14:32Like you need National Geographic, you need ESPN, you need FX and that way they can charge more to DirecTV. Right, DirecTV is trying to remake itself in the image of streaming TV by offering these flexible, skinnier bundles, but Disney does not want to budge. It is just, these things happen. Like we talked about it, it happened literally a year ago. Disney and the like kind of time their deals to end during these periods of peak demand, which is during the US Open, right before the NFL season. So usually it incentivizes a deal to happen. The last blackout ended after 12 days, so it was relatively a long time.

15:12But again, football kind of trumps all. So Disney is saying that DirecTV hasn't exactly negotiated in good faith as of yet. But there's something about the lure of football that makes everyone kind of fall in line. Up next, Ticketmaster has managed to take off the entirety of the United Kingdom. Eczema isn't always obvious, but it's real. And so is the relief from EPCLIS. After an initial dosing phase, about 4 in 10 people taking EBCLIS achieved itch relief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks. And most of those people maintain skin that's still more clear at one year with monthly dosing.

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16:53I'm so excited to embark on this adventure with all of you. Make the best idea win! On Brand with Jimmy Fallon. Series premiere Tuesday on NBC. Another musical artist, another hype tour, another country, same story. Tickets for Oasis's reunion tour 15 years in the making went on sale on Saturday, but the millions of Brits hoping to see the 90s legends live were met with many of the same frustrations as Americans trying to scoop up Taylor Swift's Eras tour tickets two years ago. When trying to buy Oasis tickets on the three websites selling them, including Ticketmaster, fans encountered hours-long wait times, error messages, bots, and prices that were much higher than advertised.

17:37People trying to buy tickets on secondhand sites experienced even more sticker shock. There, prices climbed to$10 ,000 per ticket, 70 times the original price, even though those won't even get you in the door. Ahead of the ticket release, Oasis reminded fans that tickets can only be resold at face value through two authorized online sellers and that tickets appearing on other secondary sites are either counterfeit or will be canceled. As people complained on social media, government officials didn't take long to join the pig pile. The culture spokesperson for the UK's Liberal Democrats said it was scandalous to see our country's biggest cultural moments turned into obscene cash cows by greedy promoters and ticketing websites.

18:20Toby, was this the least surprising news item we've ever covered? Oh no, if it isn't the The exact thing that literally everyone could see coming. Yes, we knew that this Oasis reunion tour was going to have absurd demand. We knew Ticketmaster was not going to be well equipped to handle it because we've seen it happen literally time and time again. The real issue is that, I mean, Oasis did their best. They tried to put these guardrails in place to be part of it was that they released some tickets via presale where fans literally had to submit a ballot correctly answering questions. They gave them a quiz about the band, and if you answered them correctly, then you got approved for the presale.

19:00But even with trying to spread out some of that demand, make it so it wasn't just this huge crush of people, it still happened anyway. And the problem is that Ticketmaster says that these tickets have essentially surge pricing attached to them. When there's times of peak demand, the price goes up. It's the same thing when you're waiting for an Uber on maybe a rainy day. Same thing happens under Ticketmaster. So they're trying to say, like, we're not behind the price rises. Ticketmaster is trying to say, too, that this was pre-agreed to before the tickets went on sale. So no one is really pointing fingers at themselves saying, like, we're the problem here.

19:36But the people who are left out to dry are the people who just want to go see Oasis and not pay up to$10 ,000 for that. The big problem here does seem to be the dynamic pricing, and that is what the U.K. government is going to investigate upcoming this fall. Let's talk about that. Ticketmaster does say that they do not set prices, that the artists do. And you can, as an artist, you can elect to have dynamic pricing or not dynamic pricing. And you can say, you know, dynamic pricing is that surge pricing. It's just another word for it. So they are saying that Oasis said we want dynamic pricing because they say this does two things.

20:15First of all, it just is the market. It matches supply and demand at any given moment. It also, according to proponents of dynamic pricing, prevents scalpers and bots from coming and scooping up all of the tickets at a low price and then selling them on second-end sites for a much higher price. This dynamic pricing in the live ticketing industry has come under scrutiny before. I remember a few years ago, Bruce Springsteen actually employed dynamic pricing and was criticized pretty heavily for that when fans logged on to see that they were paying$600, $700 for a ticket. But this does appear to be coming under scrutiny by the UK government, just as it has in the United States, where the DOJ has sued Live Nation and Ticketmaster to try to break them up after their merger was approved over a decade ago that was approved that was joined by 30 attorneys general in various states as well and the uk is like well i kind of understand why it happened i should say it's not just ticket master that was selling these tickets there were two other sites as well yeah it was very funny you see the politicians piling in as well because they were in the queues they were waiting for tickets they want to see oasis so they're like suddenly we must solve this issue because i need to go see you know the gallagher brothers back uh back on stage.

21:32So I know it's the Tuesday after a long weekend, but I need you all to listen up so we can solve one of the great conundrums currently affecting American society. Why the heck are we still making and using pennies? Seriously, think about it. Each penny costs more than three cents to make and distribute. So the U.S. man is losing money while making money. People don't use pennies either. Billions of dollars worth are just catching dust in coin jars or under couches across the country, but we can't just ditch them. It's what the New York Times reporter Katie Weaver calls the recursive and maddening logic of penny making.

22:10We have to keep making all these pennies because no one uses them. Since essentially no one uses pennies to buy things, there would be a penny deficit when a cashier tries to give you change after you pay a dollar for a 99 cent of Arizona iced tea. So over the years, the U.S. Mint makes an extra few billion pennies to replace the ones everyone just loses. Neil, this article from Katie Weaver was almost 8 ,000 words long, digging into every aspect of how pennies continue to persist. They are like cockroaches, unkillable. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense, does it? There is such a status quo bias here, and there is no really good reason, according to Katie Weaver, that we don't get rid of the penny.

22:53It's just that, you know, we just have not taken upon ourselves to solve this problem. Maybe it's not the most pressing thing in the world. It's not really affecting anybody's daily life or making anybody's daily life that much worse. But other countries have eliminated the penny pretty recently. Canada got rid of their one cent coin in 2013. And, you know, I was just in Canada this weekend. They're still alive. They're still going. And what they did was interesting. They did not eliminate the concept of one cent. They still, prices at the store still come in one cent intervals. But if you pay in cash, they do a round up or a round down situation.

23:31So if it's, you know,$20 and two cents, then you only pay $20 when you when you pay in cash. Meanwhile, if you swipe your card, which most people do, then you are charged that full amount. But yeah, Canada is still around. They got rid of the penny. Maybe we should, too. Maybe we should, too. The sheer amount of pennies just out there, though is staggering some of these stats just blow my mind a conservative estimate is that there are around 250 billion pennies lying around the united states right now so that is about seven dollars and 24 cents for every man women and child that lives in the united states since the u.s first started issuing one cent coins back in 1793 the united states has produced about half a trillion of them which if you're keeping count is more than the number of stars in the milky way galaxy See, this is my favorite fact, though.

24:19The penny is the most produced coin in the history of civilization, which also means that the portrait of Abraham Lincoln on the penny is the most reproduced piece of art on Earth. So, so many pennies out there. It is just a kind of a byproduct of political inertia at this point. It is worth one cent. So if you go to your representative and say, let's talk about abolishing the penny, you're just going to get waved off because it's just literally not worth the time of day. So we keep making pennies. It keeps chugging along. And maybe we just need to take a road trip to Canada to see how the better half lives.

24:56Here's what you need to know for the week ahead. Most importantly, that it's a short week. First, America's long national nightmare is over because the NFL returns this week and the league's takeover of every single day on the calendar. will be on full display because the Ravens and Chiefs kick things off on Thursday night. Then the Eagles and Green Bay will play in Sao Paulo, Brazil on Friday, the NFL's first regular season game in South America. There will be a full slate of games on Sunday, too, so prepare your couch accordingly. Toby, if the last NFL season will be remembered as the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift show, what do you see as the major storylines heading into this fall?

25:34Well, first of all, Tom Brady is back in the broadcast booth, though. thank the lord he had that giant 10-year contract worth 375 million dollars with fox so we'll see how he does is he as good in front of a mic as he is under center we'll see uh in the financial world earnings reports have just about wrapped up for the quarter and the next test for wall street arrives on friday with the august jobs report this one's a biggie because remember last month the jobs numbers came in much lower than expected contributing to a market crash the following Monday and leading some people to start throwing around that R word.