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Morning Brew Daily Episode 421 Summary
Episode Overview Title: Dockworkers Officially Go on Strike & Stock Market Has September to Remember Hosts: Neal Freyman & Toby Howell Date: October 1, 2023
In this episode, the hosts discuss the recent strike by dockworkers at East Coast ports, the UK's transition away from coal, the stock market's performance in September, a surprising merger in the satellite TV industry, the potential impacts of Hurricane Helene on a crucial quartz mine, and the booming vintage clothing industry.
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Key Segments
- Jimmy Carter's 100th Birthday
- Celebrated the milestone of former President Jimmy Carter, who turns 100.
- Carter's longevity and influence in American history emphasized.
- Dockworkers Strike
- Strike Details: 45,000 dockworkers from the International Longshoremen's Association walked off the job due to a contract dispute.
- Implications:
- Shuttered ports from Maine to Texas could lead to significant supply chain disruptions.
- Ports affected handle 60% of U.S. shipping traffic.
- Potential shortages of perishable goods, such as fruits and vegetables, could arise.
- Key Issues:
- Dockworkers seek a $5/hour raise for the new contract, while employers are offering $2.50/hour.
- Concerns over automation and job security have become central to the negotiations.
- Economic Impact: JP Morgan estimates $5 billion daily loss for the economy if the strike continues.
- UK's Transition from Coal
- The UK officially closed its last coal-fired power plant, marking the end of a 142-year reliance on coal.
- Historical Context:
- Coal has been integral to the UK's industrial history.
- Transition to renewable energy sources like wind and solar has accelerated dramatically.
- Current Coal Usage:
- Coal now supplies less than 1% of the UK’s electricity, a significant reduction from 80% in 1990.
- Stock Market Recap
- September saw a break in the historical trend of poor performance, with the S&P 500 gaining 2% in September and 5% in Q3.
- Factors contributing to this performance include:
- Fed's rate cuts and overall positive economic indicators.
- Diversification of stock performance, moving away from a singular reliance on AI-related stocks.
- DirecTV and Dish Network Merger
- DirecTV is acquiring Dish Network for $1, while assuming $9.8 billion in debt.
- Market Context:
- This merger aims to consolidate the satellite TV industry amid fierce competition from streaming services.
- DirecTV's subscriber base has drastically declined from 18 million to 10 million since AT&T's acquisition in 2014.
- Hurricane Helene's Impact on Quartz Mines
- Hurricane Helene caused flooding in Spruce Pine, NC, where crucial high-purity quartz mines are located.
- Significance of Quartz:
- Essential for semiconductor manufacturing, impacting technology sectors globally.
- The disruption of operations at these mines poses a risk to the supply of semiconductors.
- Vintage Clothing Boom
- The vintage resale market is thriving, with a reported 11% growth in secondhand apparel sales in the last year.
- Retailers like Banana Republic and H&M are incorporating vintage sections into their stores.
- The trend aligns with consumer preferences for sustainability and unique personal expression.
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Key Takeaways
- Economic Impacts of Labor Strikes: The dockworkers' strike highlights the fragility of supply chains and the potential for significant economic disruptions.
- Energy Transition: The UK's coal phase-out reflects a broader global trend towards renewable energy sources, albeit at different paces across nations.
- Market Resilience: The stock market's recovery in September suggests a positive outlook if economic fundamentals support the recent gains.
- Industry Consolidation: The DirecTV and Dish merger showcases the struggles of traditional broadcasting amidst the rise of streaming services.
- Raw Material Dependencies: Natural disasters, such as Hurricane Helene, can have far-reaching consequences on critical industries, emphasizing the interconnectedness of global supply chains.
- Cultural Shifts in Fashion: The rising interest in vintage clothing points to changing consumer values prioritizing sustainability and individuality.
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Conclusion This episode of Morning Brew Daily covers crucial topics affecting the economy and society, emphasizing the interconnected nature of labor, energy, commerce, and cultural trends. The hosts provide valuable insights into the current events shaping the business landscape.
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Transcript
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0:27Good Morning Brew Daily Show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, get ready for more supply chain chaos because the dock workers at East Coast Ports have gone on strike. Then the country that started the coal power boom over 140 years ago is officially coal-free. It's Tuesday, October 1st. Let's ride.
0:52Today is October 1st, a brand new month, but also a special day for one prominent American. Former President Jimmy Carter turns 100 years old. He was already the longest living president, and now he's the first to reach the century mark. No one expected him to make it this far. When Carter entered hospice care more than 19 months ago, his family and close friends weren't sure he'd last another week. But not only is Carter still kicking on his 100th birthday, but family members say he's even perked up in recent months and has been following the presidential election, listening to Bob Dylan and the Allman Brothers, and following the playoff-bound Atlanta Braves.
1:31and this stat will absolutely break your brain. Carter has lived through 40 % of U.S. history since the Declaration of Independence was signed in 1776. He has literally seen it all. In the time that he has been alive, the U.S. population has nearly tripled. And I have to say, too, Carter is a huge Atlanta Braves fan. If they had not made the playoffs yesterday, who knows if he would have made it to his 100th birthday. But yeah, truly an incredible accomplishment. He has seen so much in U.S. history, 40 % since the U.S. Declaration of Independence was signed. Kind of a mind-boggling stat right there.
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3:55Well, we've been warning about this for weeks, and now the ports are officially closed. Just after midnight, roughly 45 ,000 dock workers belonging to the International Longshoremen's Association walked off the job over a contract dispute, shuttering ports from Maine to Texas and leading to another round of supply chain chaos. These 36 ports on the East and Gulf Coast handle an estimated 60 % of all U.S. shipping traffic, including consumer goods like shirts, produce like bananas, numerous raw materials that are used by manufacturers like automakers. With no one to load or unload the containers that grease the economy's engine, international maritime commerce to and from the United States is going to significantly slow down and the damage could be significant.
4:42So should you rush to the store to stock up on toilet paper or canned food? No, the impacts of the strike aren't going to be immediate. And shippers prepared by hustling goods to ports ahead of the shutdown. Still, the longer this lasts, the more painful it will be. Shuttered ports could cause shortages of goods, which could drive prices higher for consumers. Oh, God, there's that word inflation again. And to cause manufacturers to pause production because they ran out of parts. So we'll just have to wait and see how negotiations play out. between the dock workers union and the port operators, but it's certainly a nasty curveball for the economy.
5:17Yeah, I mean, you said it, the longer it goes, the worse it gets. That's probably the drum that you're gonna be hearing beat a lot in recent days, in upcoming days, because what we're looking at right now specifically is perishable goods, because you can stock up on things like importing cars or other goods, but fruits, vegetables, America's most popular fruit, the banana comes in through these very important East Coast ports. I mean, Wilmington, Delaware itself is America's largest banana port. Who would have thought that? 1.2 million metric tons of bananas flow through those ports. 90 % of imported cherries also flow through ports on strike right now.
5:58So you start going down through the list of some of the things you want to make a yummy fall fruit salad with, and all of a sudden you realize that after a few days, if this strike extends, you won't have that fresh fruit anymore. And of course, there is some domestic production of things like cherries, not so much for actually things like bananas that can make up the gaps. But we'll start seeing these cracks appear maybe in the supermarket aisle more quickly than any other kind of sector of the business world. Yeah, these perishable goods are just going to be sitting on these ships in the Atlantic Ocean kind of rotting.
6:30So what is this dispute? What do these longshoremen want? There's two main sticking points. Their six-year contract is up this year, and they haven't agreed to a new one. So the first one is wages. They currently make$39 an hour. That is up 11 % from the start of their previous six-year contract. But over the same time, inflation has crept up 24%. So that's eaten into their wages. They want a$5 an hour raise in each year of the new six-year contract, which amounts to a 77 % increase overall. Looks like the employers are offering annual raises of half that,$2.50 an hour. So there's a large gap between the wage increase and the scope of the wage increase there.
7:16And then the other sticking point here, this may be the bigger issue, is automation. Ever since the 1960s, when dock workers go on strike, it's all about new technologies, automating their jobs and taking away their jobs. So the longshoremen want protections against the increased use of automation at ports to protect their jobs. And we'll see what happens there. I have seen, though, a lot of pushback, especially from kind of the tech community here, saying that when we resist automation, we're not actually doing ourselves a service. The Milton Friedman quote actually comes to mind. The famous economist Milton Friedman said, if we all want jobs, we can create any number.
7:55For example, have people dig holes and then fill them back up again. So if you resist innovation, if you resist kind of this push towards automation, yeah, you keep the longshoreman's jobs. You protect those jobs. But also maybe you're doing yourself a disservice in the long run by not advancing to a more – I mean if you look abroad too, like you see these factories and these ports in China doing things entirely automated where you have a vehicle, a driverless vehicle pull up and start unloading stuff. So you see the world advancing around you and you don't necessarily want to be held hostage by this union who does not want to kind of make progress and automate some of their jobs away.
8:36So, of course, you want to protect people's wages. You want people to get paid what they're worth. But you also don't want to be so resistant to progress that you kind of set America back in terms of like the global landscape when it comes to port automation. Yeah. If you look at Shanghai's port, they move an average of 113 containers per hour. And then you go back to New York and New Jersey, just down the road here, they move about half that, 57.6 containers per hour. The ports here in the United States are a lot less automated than ones in Rotterdam and Shanghai and Asia. And critics of the lack of automation here say that it is a national security issue because back during COVID, we saw all of those supply chain backups at these ports on the West Coast and the East Coast.
9:23and they say, well, that's because we don't have automation. There's one port over on the West Coast that moved goods a lot quicker and that was the most automated one and that was the Long Beach Container Terminal. So I would say this strike is going to cost the economy, according to JP Morgan,$5 billion a day, equivalent to 6 % of GDP. And yes, the longer this lasts, the more you'll actually see it show up in the consumer aisle. The end of an era. You hear the phrase thrown around a lot these days, but yesterday, the last coal-fired power plant in Britain officially closed, marking the end of coal in the very country that used it to kick off the Industrial Revolution 200 years ago.
10:06Britain has been synonymous with coal power since Thomas Edison opened the very first coal-fired power plant in London all the way back in 1882. The shutdown yesterday, though, makes the UK the first country amongst its G7 peers to fully phase out coal and fulfills the deadline it set in 2015 to ditch coal by 2025. The last plant was a striking example of a now bygone era. The boilers at Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station have been going strong for the last 57 years. They powered four 500 megawatt turbines and belt smoke out of a 650 foot tall chimneys. But environmental groups have calculated that the Ratcliffe plant was likely emitting between 8 to 15 million tons of carbon dioxide a year, more than the emissions from around 2 million cars.
10:54So now its turbines have been shut off, paving the way for a new era of renewable energy in Britain. The decline of coal in Britain has been dramatic and rapid. I mean, as recently as 1990, coal provided about 80 percent of Britain's electricity. And then as recently as 10 years ago, coal was still the leading source of the country's power, generating about a third of their electricity. But then all of a sudden, wind and solar just became huge, going from 7 percent a few years ago, a decade ago, to over 50 percent today. And then coal absolutely plummeted to just 1 % last year. Back in 2014, they set a goal to shutter all coal plants by 2025.
11:35But the growth of renewables has been so strong that they said, I think we can get this done in 2024 by October. And then they did it yesterday. So it's really been a dramatic decline for a power source that really has defined this country and defined a lot of the social, political, labor struggles over the past century there. So truly the end of an era. Worldwide, though, coal is still not gone. China, India, Indonesia still are places where a lot of coal power is relied upon. Even the United States is moving away from coal, but a little bit more slowly. 25 years ago, coal generated more than half of electricity in America.
12:11Today, it counts for right around 18 to 16 percent. So it has dropped a lot. Like, we are doing well, maybe not as dramatically as the UK has. But you are correct, though, that this plant and this industry in the UK is so synonymous with the place where it was kind of built. Smog was actually first – the term smog was coined because of the kind of smoke that was bellowing out of these coal-fired power plants. And this plant was something else. It was the size – it's the size of Monaco. It took up a footprint of a 0.8 square miles. It was kind of the marvel of its time when it was first open. And now it's been a very prominent part of the community because you drive by, you see these 650-foot tall chimneys.
12:58But now each boiler could produce enough thermal energy to bring the water of an Olympic-sized swimming pool to a boil in 11 minutes. So it truly was just this amazing marvel of technology. But it is part of a bygone era, and we are moving on from coal onto renewable energies. Pretty amazing that Britain has been able to produce enough renewables to replace a power plant like this. Like a plastic bag blowing through the wind, the third quarter of the year has drifted on by. Let's see how your portfolio is looking and how the economy at large is humming along in a Q3 recap. First things first, the September curse has officially been broken in the stock market.
13:39Remember, over the past century, September has been the worst performing month for stocks, losing about 1 % on average. And after four straight years of the September effect holding true, the market bucked that trend big time. The S &P 500 gained 2 % overall in the month and about 5 % in the third quarter, buoyed by the Fed's rate cut announcement and increasing confidence that Jerome Powell & Co. pulled off a soft landing, bringing down inflation without sending the economy into a tailspin. Speaking of the economy, it's looking pretty good. Unemployment is still hovering at a manageable 4%. Inflation is sitting just above 2%.
14:16And the US GDP grew at a 3 % annualized pace in Q2, beating expectations. Neil, let's start with the market. What was the big takeaway from Q3 for you? Well, it's not just an AI story anymore. For the first half of the year, AI, the revolution on AI dominated the stock market. As NVIDIA went, so went the markets. but that's just not the case anymore. Value stocks, be growth stocks, small cap stocks, be large cap stocks. Utilities, actually, was the top performer of any industry in the S &P 500. And second was real estate, which climbed 15%. Even the Magnificent Seven didn't all grow uniformly.
14:58NVIDIA, Alphabet, Microsoft, and Amazon ended lower while Apple, Meta, and Tesla went higher. So it really was a broadening out of the rally, which investors really wanted to see because you don't want the entire stock market to depend on one or two companies on this unproven technology AI. And it amounted to a great quarter. Now the market just put together its best first three quarters of a year since 1997. What we are looking forward to, though, is that we've had this soft landing narrative. I said it in our intro. That will be a little bit tested by, one, the jobs report that comes out at the end of the week on Friday.
15:37Plus, corporate earnings start, it's corporate earnings season, if you want to call it, start in October. So we will see if kind of that optimism that did buoy the rest of the stock market, that did broaden this rally, if you want to call it that, if it's supported by the actual fundamentals of the companies themselves. So we are in a good spot right now. Q3 was solid for the market. It bucked that September trend that we spoke about at the beginning of the month. But right now, the general attitude is like, all right, let's see if they can put their money where their mouth is. Let's see if the job market is where Jerome Powell wants it to be.
16:10Let's see if companies' earnings are as strong as maybe their stock prices are indicating. So that's what we're looking forward to as we enter into Q4. Which is typically the strongest for stocks. There you go. Happy holidays, everyone. Up next, DirecTV is buying one of its rivals for a single dollar.
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17:29Yesterday, the satellite TV provider said it was acquiring a rival satellite TV provider, Dish Network, in a deal that would create the largest paid TV company in the U.S. with a combined 20 million subscribers. The price tag is what you might find at a garage sale, just$1. But DirecTV is going to assume Dish's$9.8 billion in debt, so it comes with some significant baggage. DirecTV was also involved in a parallel deal yesterday with its parent company AT &T selling off its majority stake to private equity firm TPG for$7.6 billion. These moves, AT &T ditching DirecTV and DirecTV merging with Dish, don't come from a position of strength.
18:12It's more like the satellite TV industry is huddling together for warmth as a blizzard rages outside. That blizzard is all the streaming companies, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Max, that have lured away DirecTV's customers in recent years, and it's been bleeding them ever since. When AT &T bought DirecTV in 2014, it had more than 18 million subscribers. Now it has about 10 million. DirecTV thinks scaling up with Dish to create a satellite television behemoth, it can better weather the storm that's upended the industry. Yeah, this is like the death rattle where they're kind of teaming up to try to milk whatever last little bit of value they have.
18:52It is a relatively big company now, though. I mean, it is going to be the largest satellite TV provider in the country now. So they do have that benefit of scale. But it's just been the same story that pretty much all traditional TV providers have been dealing with. It's been dragged down by dwindling interest, dwindling demand. And then also you have the headache that is the streaming industry. kind of nitpicking you from all sides. You have the Netflixes, you have Hulu's, you have Prime. They're all been peeling away these small millions of subscribers here, millions of subscribers there from paid TV.
19:25They have lower price tags. They have more on-demand content. And you look at your DirecTV subscription, you're like, I'm paying for a lot of channels that I don't really necessarily want here. Let me go instead pick Amazon Prime and Max because that's what I actually want to watch. So yeah, it's just been the downfall. has been pretty much the same that we've been seeing and we've been speaking about for years now. Let's see if maybe the combined might can reverse that trend. Yeah. What you mentioned is kind of exactly what they want to scale up and try to do with negotiations with programmers, TV channels.
19:58You said when you get DirecTV, you have a zillion channels, 98 % of which you don't want. DirecTV and now Dish want to combine so they have greater leverage and negotiating power to go to programmers and say, we need skinnier bundles. We need smaller packages so we can sell it to customers for less money because you're cramming us with so much programming, so many channels that people don't want. Give us a sports package. Give us a family package. Give us an adventure package. Let's figure out ways to create skinnier packages to sell to customers because what we are working with you now on is just way too much.
20:34It's too expensive and it's just not a good business proposition for us. And remember, one of those headaches happened to customers earlier this year at the beginning of September. DirecTV, their 11 million subscribers, actually lost access to ESPN right in the middle of the U.S. Open, we should add, right in the middle of some important college football games, too, over this carrier fee and programming flexibility. They were trying to take the fight to Disney and win those skinnier packages like you discussed. So maybe with a little bit more heft, a little bit more might behind their negotiation, they will be able to to win those things for consumers.
21:07And I should add that Dish and DirecTV have been trying to combine for 20 years now, but regulators have tried to stop it. It doesn't look like regulators are going to care that much about this particular merger because they are just small fish in a big pond at this point. Officials are still assessing the damage from Hurricane Helene, which killed more than 130 people across the southeast and wiped entire neighborhoods off the map in western North Carolina, which suffered unprecedented and unimaginable flooding. Roads are in such a bad state in the area that mules have been called in to deliver aid to places that cars can't reach.
21:44But it's the fate of one small town in the North Carolina mountains that has the attention of the business world, spruce pine, which is home to mines that produce the purest form of quartz on Earth. High purity quartz is critical to making the semiconductors that power modern life. They are used in smartphones, data centers, cars, solar panels, and more. and the manufacturing of semiconductors wouldn't be possible without the quartz found specifically in these two mines in the Appalachian Mountains. You can't find this quality anywhere else. The professor Ethan Mollick noted without hyperbole, wrote that the modern economy rests on a single road in spruce pine, North Carolina.
22:26So how the flooding from Hurricane Helene impacted the quartz mines is of great interest to companies around the globe that use semiconductors without spruce pines quartz chip makers can't make chips and it does seem like production has stopped at least for now the biggest company operating at the quartz mine civil co said it had temporarily halted operations at its spruce pine facilities and its top priority remains the safety and well-being of its employees yeah i mean i was digging into why is this quartz so so important for the silicon and semiconductor industries because you need to this quartz to produce, they call it a crucible, but it's essentially just this vessel that you melt the polysilicon in.
23:09And the reason why you need it to be so pure is like the manufacturing process of these very fine silicon wafers needs to be as undisturbed and without purity or in high purity as possible. And quartz is for some reason just the perfect element for that. It doesn't contaminate the molten silicon. They can withstand the high temperatures required to melt that silicon without introducing those contaminants that we spoke about. And it's just great because it is chemically inert as well. It minimizes reactions with the silicon. So all of these things feed into this specific mineral that comes from this specific place in North Carolina being so, so important for the chips that do power just pretty much our entire modern world right now.
23:50So it is crazy that we talk about that the entire economy rests on a single road, but it is not that much of an exaggeration to say that. And it's just a quirk of geological history that this place in North Carolina, North Carolina mountains that has been hit with unprecedented flooding is also home to a, a material that is used in the tech industry around the world. One thing that might be hard, difficult to assess just how operational these plants are, is that these companies are extremely secret because they have processes that they want to keep under wraps. So sometimes workers, when they go to particular parts of the facilities, are blindfolded.
24:33And contractors working with Uniman, which is the parent company, this Belgian parent company that operates the mines, are often required to sign NDAs. So trying to get these people, you know, I read a zillion articles about like what is going on with these mines. Trying to get these people on the phone to have them say anything about what's going on is nearly impossible. So while all the attention is certainly and justly on how these mountain towns are recovering and obviously the search and rescue operations are still continuing, there's also this interesting business angle to the whole thing where this quartz mine is just being the focus of the entire economy.
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25:11The feel of well-loved jeans, the earthy odor of a second hand quilt and the joy of uncovering a hidden gem. These are the sights and smells thrifters know and love, and it's why I wanted to talk about the vintage and resale boom on today's edition of Toby's Trends. Business has been good in the vintage game. There are over 25 ,000 resale stores now in the U.S., while secondhand apparel sales are up 11 % last year compared to 2022, according to Capital One. It's outpacing the wider garment industry, too. Apparel resale in the U.S. grew at seven times the rate of the broader retail sector, according to ThredUp, to reach$43 billion.
25:52Just six years ago, it was sitting at$23 billion. And downtowns are loving it because trendy resale shops are finally a reason to come shopping again. After all, every item in a secondhand store is one of one, so it's not like you know how a brand fits you until you physically put it on. Neil, everything that is old is new again, especially old clothes. And brands are absolutely hopping on this. It seems like if you open up a trendy new store, then at least you're going to have a small section dedicated to vintage or resale. Banana Republic just opened a 70 ,000 square foot store in New York and within it has a 225 square foot shop that sells its own branded clothing from the 1980s and the 1990s.
26:37H &M also recently opened a store in New York with kind of the same thing. They have a store. They have a vintage store within a store. REI has two standalone stores where all they do is sell secondhand items. So I'd love to hear your take on why this has become such a big booming industry within the apparel space. I think it's just young people see resale and see vintage as almost a core part of how they identify themselves. Because one, it's better for the planet. You are wearing clothes that have already been produced. it's kind of the exact opposite of fast fashion. Then also you can just express yourself very well.
27:12I mean, if you've ever been into one of those vintage shops, you see some outrageous things. And so it just allows you to kind of express your creativity a little bit more. One company that I think is doing very well in this space, I mean, everyone knows it's called Goodwill. It's the largest secondhand store operator in the country, but they've started doing things like hosting wedding pops-ups and bridal shows within their stores because it is just, it adds a little bit of verve to your wedding. If you have some, just some second-handed and thrifted stuff. I recently did just go to my cousin's wedding and all of the bridesmaids picked out thrifted candlesticks.
27:47They each got to just go around and find a candlestick that they think reflected them or reflected the bride a little bit. And it was super cool. I mean, some of the table settings were uniform, but some of them were unique and thrifted and had that secondhand pop to them. So that was very cool. And I think it's just emblematic of the broader trend we're seeing. If people are just wanting to be themselves and not buy stuff from H &M, not buy stuff from Shein all the time, sometimes you want to go to those secondhand stores. Yeah, and the people who are loving this are landlords because a lot of the vintage resale experience is going to the stores brick and mortar and buying it online is just not the same.
28:23And then if you walk around my neighborhood in Brooklyn, every other store is a vintage shop. It goes like vape shop, vintage shop, vape shop, vintage shop. if you just walk around. So they've really occupied so much retail space. So it's pretty important for downtowns and cities to this boom. It has some wide-ranging effects. Okay, let's wrap it up there. Thanks so much for starting your day with us and have a wonderful Tuesday. Let's get October started off on the right foot. For any feedback, questions, or comments on the show, send an email to morningbrewdaily at morningbrew.com. And don't forget to share Morning Brew Daily with your friends, family, and coworkers.
29:00If you can't think of anyone to spread the word to, that's why we have Toby. He has ideas. I want you to share today's episode with someone who is your crucible made of pure quartz. That person that you can't function without, who can withstand heat and pressure to keep things operating smoothly. Find your crucible and send them this episode. Find your crucible. Okay, let's roll the credits, Emily. Milliron is our executive producer. Raymond Liu is our producer. Olivia Graham is our associate producer. Yuchedawa Ogu is our technical director. Billy Menino is on audio. Hair and makeup has gone thrifting.
29:33Devin Emery is our chief content officer. And our show is a production of Morning Brew. Great show today, Neil. Let's run it back tomorrow.
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Episode 421: Neal and Toby explain why dockworkers are going on strike and what will happen to major imports if demands are not met. Then, the UK’s move to end its 142 year run on using coal as a form of energy. Next, the Stock Market has a really good September…no thanks to AI. Also, after decades of will-they-won’t-they, DirecTV is buying its rival Dish Network for only $1, but taking on its billions of debt. Meanwhile, Hurricane Helene could potentially shock the tech world as rainfall blocks access to a rare quartz mine in Spruce Pine, North Carolina. Lastly, vintage clothing is booming and has caught the eye of giant fashion retailers to do the same. Vintage is so in. Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app.
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00:00 - Jimmy Carter 100th birthday
02:40 - Port Strike Implications
08:30 - UK Drops Coal Production
12:10 - Q3 Stock Market Recap
15:15 - DirecTV Deal
19:45 - Quartz and Hurricane Helene
23:00 - Vintage resale
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