Get to Know Good Work's Dan Toomey

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0:39If you have followed Morning Brew on social media or YouTube, you will be really excited for our guest. And if not, you should still be very excited. Today, we are getting to know Dan Toomey. Dan makes some of the most hilarious videos we've ever seen skewering work culture and the business world. He's been with The Brew since 2020 and recently launched his own franchise called Good Work. We're going to talk to Dan about his comedy career, the creator economy, and his go-to Dunkin' order. Today is Monday, July 3rd. Let's ride.

1:17All right, gentlemen, to start off this interview, I actually want to take us back to August 18th of 2020 where I got a DM from Alex Lieberman on Slack, the co-founder of Morning Brew, saying, I want to get your eyes on something. Tell me what you think about this. That something was a self-tape of young Dan Toomey auditioning for a role at Morning Brew. I was eight. It was very inappropriate. He was eight years old. It was this awesome video, but I actually have my response that I replied to Alex with that I'm going to read here, slightly edited for length. Wow, Wow, that was a wild ride. I legit laughed out loud.

1:56Would have to tone it down a bit, but I think he's pretty polished. He clearly put a lot of time into it, so I give him props for that. And here's the kicker. Overall, 7 out of 10, because some jokes didn't really land. All right, big guy. Listen, I'm not sure if I almost tanked your career before it began or if I launched it. 7 out of 10? Are you kidding? That was a good video. I gave you props, though. I gave you a lot of props. What did you mean by tone it down? I didn't make any offensive jokes. I think at that time, I thought that Morning Brew was a much more polished brand than it was. You ran the Twitter.

2:36That was the least polished thing of Alpine Company. I want Dan's review of Toby. I know. I just couldn't believe that I had. It was 6.5 now. All this to say that it's kind of crazy that we're sitting here now. That's where I guess it all started. That was the first time I laid eyes on you. And now we're sitting on these couches together. Now, look at us. You impressed Toby a lot. But we have a bunch of questions to ask you. I know. You have pages. I have pages. All right. Here we go. This is the best we're going to ever get to know each other, fellas. Absolutely. Dudes never ask this many questions to each other.

3:09I know. We're about to get real deep. So our first question, Dan, I want to imagine we're at a party, okay? And I don't know you, but we start with a small talk, you know, and it's classic New York City. we eventually land on the question so what do you do for work how do you typically respond to that question at this party we have mics and headphones sitting at a couch um what uh i i say i say i'm a comedian that's why i say now when i first started this job i had no idea right because i i didn't know like it wasn't even like mostly comedic stuff either it was just a lot of um uh just making videos and so i said like oh i make videos i would always do i work for this company called morning brew and it was like sometimes that hits though you have to admit so there's some well when people know it yeah but like you're i'm still at this phase where like i'll be like it's this like company called like it seems like a burden your voice your inflection of your voice goes up even my face i'm just like you can leave if you want this conversation you don't have to be here for this um but then i said i would like make videos for them yeah um and what was funny was that when i first started this job i was living at my parents place in back in massachusetts and so most of those questions would come from like their friends right and they'd be like you make videos what is what does that mean what is the video i make like tiktoks for them and then their heads would explode and then they go what's a tiktok yeah they're like what's a tiktok and then they just kept then they just like kept me under the stairs like harry potter uh let's jump to the before times a little bit what were you doing before morning brew and did you have kind of career goals at that point and have they changed at all since you've joined Morning Brew.

4:47This is great. This isn't even like a conversation podcast. It's therapy. Question, question, question. This is therapy. This is awesome. Before Morning Brew, I studied journalism. I'm a journalism major at the University of Southern California. California. And, yeah, I worked for a year in politics doing political journalism in Washington, D.C. Before that. So graduated class of 2020. Was super unemployed for a little bit and then got a job over in D.C. Did that for about nine months. All the while, like, talking to you guys and maybe figuring something out and then eventually came over here.

5:32Was the goal comedy or do you think the goal, was that always the long-term goal? Did you want to be like a Brian Williams? No. Well, Brian Williams pre-Scandal. My favorite thing about Brian Williams is that apparently people would send him ties and he would wear them. That's cool. I love that. But I want to go to when you were in D.C. when you were who are you working for again? I was working for ABC News. ABC News. It was kind of an eventful time. Right. And there was a particular January day in 2021 where you had quite an eventful situation. Do you mind walking us through that? I mean, maybe if you want to hear about it.

6:05I do. No, it was January 6th. Yeah. And so I worked the all right. Yeah, I worked the overnight shift at ABC News. So I worked from midnight to eight every day. Well, we would rotate. But at that particular time, I was on from midnight to eight. And we had seen protests leading up to that before. So when people started to come out, we heard that there was going to be a rally. And we were like, oh, you know, that's just like all these other rallies that have happened. We like keep eyes on it. And I was the only one in the newsroom that night because that's like during COVID, it was like pretty much only young people could be in the office like with each other.

6:53Yeah. Because people are still worried. And so I was the only one in the office at like 3.30 in the morning. And we would see ralliers start to like trickle in. and i'd be like oh we should keep eyes on this and then like more people started to come in and then um and then i left it was 8 a.m and people like there were some people who were still on like the sidewalks and pouring into the city and coming out of the train station but like that was the end of my shift and so i think it was like all right i'm gonna go home now i think you guys got this one and then i went home and i fell asleep and then i woke up a phone call at 2 p.m which was like 2 a.m.

7:31for me it was my brother and he was just like they took the capital and i was like what does that mean and then i and then uh my my favorite part of this whole thing was uh you start watching it on on the news and like uh you know it's just insane um i was like oh i gotta get to work tonight because like i still have like i have to do this and i'm not gonna like walk there because i live pretty far away from our offices which were near the capital building and um Um, so I called an Uber and in two seconds I got an Uber, like right into the middle of the scene. And I was like, can you drive me in?

8:06And he was like, yeah, man, let's do it. So we were just like weaving in between protesters. And then, yeah. And then eventually, uh, I just like slept in a hotel room that they put me in for like a day, um, and then worked the rest of it. But I also met a lot of my colleagues for the first time that day. Everybody came in. because it was like the biggest news story aside from the election. And it was like all hands on deck. So I'd be meeting people on the day of the January 6th, I'd be like, I'm Dan. I'm really trying to work my hardest here. So, yeah. What a story. Like what a moment in history to be entering your first job and like working the night shift.

8:43And then a month later, I was like, yeah, I'm going to go join this company Morning Brew. I make TikToks. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, let's move on to kind of the creative process. Do you mind walking us through your creative process? Like how do you come up with your ideas for your videos? And then how do you go from idea in Dan's head to like a finished product? Yeah, the, I don't know. A lot of it is just like when I joined, again, there wasn't really like a whole model for what we do now, I guess. At least at Morningware, I don't know what it was like at other companies. But even when I graduated being like a quote unquote creator, that wasn't like a like a job, you know.

9:24And then when I joined, all I knew was like late night. Like that's what I really looked up to. And so I tried to model my day after what I knew a late night writer's schedule or what I assumed their schedule was like. I've never worked there before, but I was like, I'm going to get up in the morning, read the news. By like 9 a.m. I'm going to have like four pitches for videos. and then I'll send them to our editor and she'll be like, three of these are garbage and one of these might work out. And then I would write that one. We would film it or I would write it. I would send her the script, get her approval on it, film it, edit it, and then get it out by like 2 p.m.

10:05And we did that Monday through Friday every day for like probably like eight months, I would say. And you're filming this all yourself. Yeah. And editing it all yourself. Yeah. In your apartment too, for the most part. In your large, large apartment above Carbone. Toby had seen that. Toby had seen that apartment. Your bed is in your living room, which is also your kitchen. He pitied me so much. You ever seen that meme of like Hillary Clinton walking in like an apartment and being horrified as to how small it is? That was Toby entering my West Village apartment. It was beautiful. Toby was my Hillary Clinton.

10:38He was like, you live like this. Do you have my vote? So how do you come up with your ideas? Like what is a good idea and what is not a good idea? How do you filter that through your brain? I literally do. I never know. Oh. Actually, no, that's a lie. Sometimes, like, sometimes you will know. You're like, oh, this is going to be great. But those are, like, I would say more rare than I think what a lot of people expect. Because most people don't see the fact that, you know, especially through those first eight months, probably 99.5 % of what I pitched got rejected. Or it was a video that bombed.

11:11And at the time, it feels, like, super consequential. inconsequential and you're like oh this is so emotionally damaging that like what i tried to do the first comment i ever got on a video that i posted for morning brew it was on twitter we posted it and this was like our first like foray into comedy my first time being like a on-screen presence for morning brew the comment was got maybe i think 12 likes and the only comment was a guy who posted a gif of an overweight baseball player swinging at a t-ball stand missing and tripping and his comment was swinging a miss i was like what a start actually you know what covering january 6 overnight sounds a lot better than this but that's a good segue because i wanted to know about how you balance sort of like your mental health when you're when you're you're you're laughing but no but it's a serious question and when you're your career compared to so many others is so tied to approval on the internet yeah um and you must like i whenever i have a tweet that gets more than like 15 likes all i can do is refresh twitter or instagram or whatever and it messes with my whole day yeah and that's kind of your job is to garner views and likes and retweets and things like that so have you sort of developed a mechanism for shutting it off or kind of separating yourself from that um i've tried to definitely in the past i would say like dude i'm probably as addicted to my phone as like a smoker is to cigarettes now like and straight up like i i will be in public and i'll just like start checking it and i'm like why am i on instagram like i have no idea why i'm on this right now um i used to like whenever i would post something i would try to like walk away for like an hour and do something else but then i quickly learned that that actually hurts like the performance of the video is that you if people comment on you want to like reply to it so the uh the casino uh of social media is literally designed for you to stay on the app immediately and be addicted to it um obviously i think therapy helps like it's very important to like have somebody to talk to um and so balancing mental health that was very tough when so much of like what you do is is geared to metrics like right Thinking back to late night, it's like you had one metric to go off of, which was views.

13:32Views. And that was it for like a certain demographic. And that was it. And now it's like you post a video and you are given more data than ever before. And like I was talking to a few comics last night who were just like, did you know if you film at this frame rate, then it's actually more likely to go viral. Because like the eye is more keen to this. And I was like, what? like comedians are like forced to just look at all this data and it's just so it's not it's not healthy when you analyze it that much um which goes to show that like the mental health balance it's really just a matter of like unfortunately doing it enough to the point where you get like a little bit yeah like a little bit numb to the feeling and you're just like okay like that truly is yeah you once the views get bigger it paradoxically becomes like easier to not check them as much because yeah when you're in like the you've had videos that go extremely viral and when you're in the hundreds of thousands millions of territory like each individual one is not as much of a dopamine hit so you're right but i mean and you know like twitter is the same thing it's just all just like dopamine straight to the veins but it's not like dopamine that like feels good like hanging out with people it's a very solitary form because you're just in your room just getting affirmation from a screen that's the size of like a matchbox it's not it's not conducive to healthy living uh being a creator is great guys you're thinking of doing it you should definitely do it it's great do you ever look back on the early videos from morning brew and say like oh my gosh i've evolved so much as a creator i i assume you do but like take us through i'd really try not to re-watch you don't you don't go back i re-watch like videos that i made like probably like a week ago but yeah early early stuff no i really don't want to do that well they were funny that sounds terrible i know but what were really funny i just can't like i can't do it it's it's like oh no but you do review your own work i see you edit it you must hear your own voice more than anybody else because you are your own editor oh yeah brother so you are just listening to yourself like six hours a day while you're editing and i can't even listen to my own podcast once for fear of just freaking out so but i i think that's different than watching you from like a year ago like when you're editing you're trying to like really perfect something so you can like ultimately publish it and you're seeing the the rough draft but it's it's i mean like maybe i'll go back and watch like one of like the really early hits that we've had but again like there have been a lot of bombs man and which again is just part of the process but i think like revisiting those would just be like, Ooh, like I hope that I would be better now.

16:17Um, and you know, I don't want to like, I don't know if I'm going to be inspired, but I don't really know what the point would be, you know? Yeah. So you, you said you were a creator and I kind of want to like zero in on that word a little bit because a lot has been written. You winced for all the people just listening, but it is, uh, do you say that word with pride? Do you wish you could be something else? And sort of where do you see yourself in this broader creator economy that has you know come up recently and just to define it i guess it's that uh you know social media and various other tools have sort of empowered individuals to create their own brands online and we don't know what else to call them so we call them creators because they create things yeah yeah i think that i go back and forth on the term a ton um what i will say like first and foremost having worked in more traditional media throughout college and then in my first year out of college.

17:10I think that the creator economy, the blessing of it is that it opens doors for more people than would be traditionally allowed in, you know, the media that we're used to, because people can build their own platforms. And previously, like, you would have to know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who, like, was probably, like, paid off by your parents. So, but what's great about this is that more people than ever are able to just kind of, like, come up on their own just by being active in publishing their own material. And I really do believe in how important it is to make your own things. I think that's one of the most important skills anybody in media can develop today is just knowing how to like publish and create your own content or at least be a part of the creation process.

17:53So that I think is the blessing of it. The curse of the whole like creator title is that like, what does that even mean? You know, like creator is such a vague term and I feel like that's kind of on purpose and where I can sometimes feel like it's exploitive for people who are hired in that position is that they turn around and they're like, I'm being asked to make a podcast, make a video, write my scripts, edit these videos, and then also have like a line of merch that I need to design it. It's like not everybody, you shouldn't be, that's so much for one person. So I think that it's, again, it's an amazing opportunity that more people than ever before have had right now.

18:33but it also requires you when you step into that role to define your parameters a bit and be like look this is what i want to do that's a really important thing too is like knowing what you want to do ultimately rather than what other people will ask you to do as part of your job because if you're a creator they're going to ask you to do like you know as many tasks as possible because you're like well you're a creator you create isn't that which is just like unfair to be hired for you know so i mean i guess following up on that uh you exist in kind of this weird liminal space of you are your own personal brand like you have dan to me you have a large following on instagram but then you're also under the morning brew umbrella yeah what is it kind of like being existing as a creator underneath an organization versus just being like a pure creator on your own um at morning brew it is abusive it is fully abusive they treat me horribly and i just saw the recording go red first time i keep a muzzle on uh when i'm not on camera it's terrible this is the first time i've talked to people in months i will keep going on this bit for 20 minutes what what i have loved about working here was that when i started i had like no following at all um and it was like shocking to people that i was like making videos they're like oh you're doing in this, huh?

19:49And so, uh, but I was able to like be bad for a while and also practice at it. Um, which was like props to, you know, Toby thinking I was like terrible in my eyes to some people having a little more faith in me than Toby did. Um, and I've really enjoyed that. Like I'm a very risk averse person. So I was like, I enjoy working at a company where I'm able to like practice consistently, um, and like give me time to get better. Uh, which, you know, I really do think It probably took a year, year and a half until I was fully comfortable in the job of being like, okay, I know how to make a video now.

20:24I know what stories we should cover. I know when there's an opportunity to make a really good video about something. I've enjoyed the security of that and just kind of like the support system. Kind of like a trust fall. When you fall, there is kind of a very comfortable bed of feathers. Yes, exactly. Which is Toby's hair. yeah I just fall on Toby every day whenever I have a video that bombs Toby just he cradles me like an infant say come here he has a little Bjorn that he carries me around in and I just come hither I'm curious how social media you're also a comedian you're doing a lot of stand-up shows around the city yeah right how has social media changed the that industry um like why are you doing standup shows for 30 people when you could be taking that time to make a video?

21:15I've done it for far less people. Well, why are you doing it for 30 people when you could essentially make a video and reach millions of people at the same time? Like what value do you find in that? And what kind of conversations are you having with other comedians about how TikTok and Instagram have completely disrupted the industry? Yeah, dude. Man, I did a show last night at a startup. and wait like a startup hired you they yeah it's like a corporate show yeah i get there our offices are in williamsburg it's like a it's like it's i know it's like it's like it's like kendall roy's basement is what this office looked like and we get up and we get there and this is the most startup thing ever like they have they have like video game controllers in the office they have more beanbags than like lawyers right and you get there and the only stage that they had was just like this little tiny like thing and then they go oh yeah we don't have a mic for you guys just like what they just they just gave me three topo chicos and then they're just like get on stage so i got on stage with no mic just like delivering a ted talk to this crowd of like 22 people none of them wanted to be there at all they like it was like a poor i'm sorry this was not your question at all but i was like oh man it's we gotta go up from here i think it does speak that is kind of answering the question a little bit like you when you're making a video you have all your props you can edit it to make yourself look the way you want to look versus stand-up sometimes all you got is three topo chicas so it's much more more raw art but it chisels you for the future sometimes you have a lot less than that three two three two three two that's nice yeah i've paid money to do stand-up the here's the thing i think like there are if i had to write like a book about comedy now it would be called everybody's in and there are no rules because social media has introduced more people to the idea that they could be comedians than ever before and that has led to a lot of people when you think oh okay I want to be a comedian what should I go do your mind just goes to stand up it doesn't immediately go to like making videos because traditionally that's not your idea of what comedy is for a lot of people they go I'm going to move to New York and I'm going to be a stand up comedian it is a completely different art form than making videos what i love about making videos is like like you mentioned earlier i edit all of my things and there are like different jokes you can hide in the editing and like that's a completely different art form than stand-up where it's just you on stage and you're telling jokes but then you can also mix up stand-up like bo burnham like he would sing songs and he would have all these it would be like a performance too and like i have a buddy jack reichert who uh he has like a whole like musical instrument thing that he does at the end so it's like a lot more fluid i think um and you can use a lot of like skills that you have in video editing to inform stand up and to like make it a little more interesting right if you want or there are some people who are just killer stand-up comedians that's all they got to do is just stand up on stage going back to what you said about like how his social media impacted it you see a lot of trends where people will just upload like crowd work um and that will help them go viral which other people have opinions of i really i'm just like hey man if that's what helps you then like go for it again there are no rules to any of this stuff um and but but there are more people than ever doing stand-up because they're like oh i went viral for this impression right on instagram i gotta go be a stand-up comedian now which is like it's just so different and like props to you if you're going to try it you know it's uh but it's a fascinating time it's definitely way different than it was right when i was doing it 20 years ago very different back when we were over at zappies listening to to joey steaks give it to the crowd love that um all right i think final question for you to me before we wrap up with a couple of rapid fire but final big question this was so fun it's already over we're getting there we still got more left okay um what is kind of the holy grail for you like what do you think you're building towards is it i don't know a spot on SNL?

25:21Is it you want to go to Hollywood? Is it a lead writer on a, uh, on a comedy show? Like, do you have a North Star or are you just trying to, you're just toning away? This is a job interview right now. Yeah. Right. I'm trying to leave Morning Bird, dude. I'm trying to get out of this ball and chain. Um, I don't know. I, what's interesting is that when I graduated college, I had no idea that this is the job that I would be working in. And this wasn't even like a goal of my, I thought that I wasn't going to work in comedy when I graduated every year I would apply for a late night internship like literally consistently freshman to senior year and I got rejected every single year so like when I graduated I kind of just gave up and I was like well I guess I'm not gonna do it and then this is just kind of ended up happening so I try to like have a vague idea of what my five-year goal is but never be too married to it because if I stuck to my five-year goal when I was a senior I would not be here right um I think we can all say that by the way too like yeah no one the fact that we're all sitting here is is a miracle and i have zero one week goals yeah yeah i don't even know i'm gonna do tomorrow man but yeah continue but yeah i mean like in terms of what i want to do in the future um i always just try to see it as a scaled up version of what i'm doing right now yeah so i do stand up i write scripts and i make videos and if i could just do that on like a larger scale um maybe with a bit more resources but uh you know to like work on a show to host live shows myself the Dan Toomey show.

26:47I do want to do before we go to the rapid fire I do want to do a quick not so subtle plug for your new franchise that you're building which is called Good Work. Good Work, yes. Do you want to tell the people what that is and sort of what the concept behind it is and what they can expect? This is like hot ones if you make it to the end of the interview you can give your plug. You can plug it. Good Work is the only fake business news outlet that you need to know. We cover everything from meetings to LinkedIn to why every celebrity has a product now. I wear a trench coat sometimes in the videos. It's produced by me and Henry Stockwell, who's a hilarious writer and a very good friend of mine.

27:24And you can find us on YouTube and Instagram and Twitter and TikTok is goodworkmb. But what's the point? You mentioned some of the examples, but the point of it is kind of like to skewer work and business culture. Sure. You're like, I didn't really write it. I just wrote you a mission. Yeah. No, that's that's great man that's awesome okay it has been i think we're trying to figure that out it's been very successful and i think it kind of talks about a lot of the unspoken things like why is linkedin so weird it's kind of you know we all kind of beat around the bush and we don't really talk about it but you kind of nailed it and i think what makes these videos so successful is that you actually in between all the jokes you offer very insightful commentary um and and ask a question and then answer it my favorite thing about them is that like we're we've gotten amazing guests and i don't know how these people have said yes to the show but uh like we've had three new york times reporters we had derrick thompson on the show we had kyle cook from bravo summer house on the show and i'm like it's amazing that you guys are willing to to do this wait man it's not like we're like eric andre where we're like gonna like bully people right one time you might even get toby me i don't know one time right now you guys are giving me like a six out of ten for this performance during these next questions you could bump it up to a ceiling of an eight i can't wait to see how many like what do you guys measure your podcast by downloads how many downloads this one gets i think at least tens to maybe 20 it depends on whether you promote it or not family families are in your family's gonna gather around the radio the the the radio on july 4th and be like we gotta listen to this one yeah it'll be like you know it'd be like winston churchill in 1942 like come on everybody dad's yelling at his kids all right uh rapid fire question kiss mary kill instagram tiktok youtube uh wait instagram tiktok youtube kiss mary kill yes got it okay okay okay little okay kkm um kiss mary kill instagram tiktok youtube and this is a rapid fire question where where i have to answer and you're out of time sorry yeah we have to answer in a rapid fashion i'm watching the downloads um i marry youtube kiss instagram kill tiktok well i thought tiktok gives you the greatest chance to go viral though not anymore man not anymore anymore and that's i'm just in it for the virality sorry babe there it is plus dan thinks there's a national security threat i do yeah all right next rapid fire question who is the comedian that you most admire i hate this question i really do okay then who is the comedian you would want to open for um like if i name like some random brooklyn comedian you got all right well okay then name one that everyone everyone knows but that you also admire who i would want to open for uh i was listening to nate bargetsy this morning so nate bargetsy nate bargetsy would be a great one yeah there you go and hates us now you're up next neil what's our next that's just such a stressful question i just like there's too many people yeah all right um if you could give your younger self one piece of advice what would it be um sleep is really important sleep uh you're talking to some people yeah i was gonna say i'm actually that was just advice for you too sleep is very important uh yeah that's that's my biggest one sleep all right that's actually solid yeah um all right actually so what did you think i was gonna do no i mean nothing good happens after 2 a.m yeah i thought it was gonna be something uh i don't know i'm gonna take that to heart there all right um all right we know your big mask guy hit us with your go-to duncan order uh medium ice black that's it yep keep it simple yeah and if they can't dude one time i walked in and i said medium ice because usually that's what you just say like medium ice and it was at the one down the street right and uh i just hit your lamp i'm sorry um and the one was so confused she was like really you sure and i was like yeah just medium ice and then she looks at me turns around fills up a cup of ice and it turns back around like she was like gifting it to me this is all you want i just i was like of course of course not no that's not what so uh i didn't know that that was a massachusetts thing also uh massachusetts duncan is the only place i've ever been to where i was at the drive-thru and i asked for a medium ice i think i got like a donut or something and they went all right why what he goes why why you want that and i was like oh because i'm hungry it's early in the morning he goes all right good enough i was like what happened if i gave you a bad answer would you just say like oh sorry man you gotta turn around you gotta work on that pitch again asking for a donut and a massachusetts duncan is like asking comedian who is your favorite comedian so we're gonna not uh note those down yeah i would have been like well i guess i don't now yeah i guess and then just i guess i'm not worthy absolutely um all right uh final question uh what is future dan doing on july 4th because this is coming out on july 3rd actually future what's future dan oh oh so we're recording this in june oh oh but you mean like this year, July 4th.

32:33Yeah, what are your plans? I thought you meant like 20, 2098. No, what are your plans? Are you coming to my party? I won't be alive at 20, I'll be so dead. The Google pod. Yeah, I'll be, yeah, I'm hanging out with you. I'm hanging out with you guys. Hell yeah. July 4th. Recording a pod. There we go. Recording another episode of this. I'm so, this is my first episode on The Daily Show. And coincidentally, it's also your last. It's also my last. There you go. Dan, how should we rate Dan's performance? I'm going to bump you up to a seven. Let it be known to the people listening that I brought donuts, but I cannot show them for legal reasons.

33:04So we're going, you'll have to guess the brand. You'll have to guess what brand of donut I brought, but I cannot bring them because we were not given approval. I know. All right. That is our show, Dan. You are welcome every time. You're such a talented comedian or creator or whatever you want to be called. Thank you. Happy July 4th, everyone. I hope you have a great few days off here at the beginning of the week. And we'll see you when we see you.

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