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Episode Title
Why Weed Stocks Are So High & Betting at Dave & Busters?
Episode Number
313
Hosts
Neal Freyman and Toby Howell
Date
May 1st
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Episode Overview In this episode, Neal and Toby discuss recent significant developments in various sectors including cannabis reclassification, the impact of a major cyber attack on UnitedHealth, Walmart's new product line, and innovative changes at Dave & Buster's. The episode also touches on consumer behavior trends and a notable story of a man scoring expensive earrings at a bargain price.
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Key Discussions
- Cannabis Reclassification
- Government Action: The DEA proposed to reclassify marijuana from a Schedule I to a Schedule III drug.
- Current Classification: Schedule I, which includes substances like heroin and LSD.
- Proposed Classification: Schedule III, alongside anabolic steroids and Tylenol with codeine.
- Implications for the Cannabis Industry:
- Tax Benefits: Cannabis companies would gain the ability to write off normal business expenses, significantly increasing profitability.
- Market Response: Cannabis stocks soared—two ETFs jumped 19% and 20%.
- Concerns: Advocacy groups worry about increased marketing towards youth and the potential health risks associated with high-potency marijuana.
- UnitedHealth Cyber Attack
- Overview: A cybersecurity breach impacted a UnitedHealth subsidiary, crippling a significant part of the U.S. healthcare system.
- Consequences: Transactions froze, leading to an estimated $1 billion daily loss across the healthcare network.
- Congressional Hearing: UnitedHealth's CEO is to testify regarding the hack and the company's significant market power.
- Discussion Points:
- Market Size: UnitedHealth processes health data for 50% of Americans; its size raises antitrust concerns.
- Impact on Smaller Providers: Smaller clinics suffer more during such crises due to their reliance on prompt payments.
- Walmart’s New Store Brand
- Launch of "Better Goods": This marks Walmart's largest in-house brand launch in two decades, aimed at attracting younger consumers.
- Product Range: Affordable upscale food items, including gourmet options, priced generally from $2 to $15.
- Consumer Trends:
- Inflation and Home Cooking: The brand aims to capitalize on the current high food costs and the trend of home cooking that began during the pandemic.
- Target Demographic: Efforts to attract more affluent shoppers, including households earning between $100,000 and $150,000 annually.
- Betting at Dave & Buster’s
- New Feature: Customers can now bet against each other in arcade games using an app developed by Lucra.
- Legal Status: This operates in a regulatory gray area, focusing on skill-based games to avoid strict gambling regulations.
- Concerns: Critics express worry over increased gambling culture, while proponents see it as an innovative way to enhance engagement.
- Tech Industry Commentary
- MKBHD Reviews: Marques Brownlee highlighted concerns over tech companies releasing underdeveloped products and charging full price.
- Consumer Expectations vs. VC Perspective: A distinction between what consumers expect (finished products) versus what VCs might accept (ideas).
- Industry Trend: Companies frequently launch products with minimal features, promising updates later, which frustrates consumers.
- The $13,000 Cartier Earrings Story
- Incident Overview: A Mexican surgery resident purchased high-value earrings at a fraction of their price due to a website glitch.
- Legal and Ethical Debate:
- Consumer Protection Law: Mexican law offers protections, but not for mistakes like this, leading to varied public opinion on the moral implications of the purchase.
- Public Reaction: Mixed feelings about consumer rights vs. exploiting corporate errors.
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Conclusion This episode of Morning Brew Daily presents a blend of significant corporate and societal developments, showcasing how current events impact various industries. The discussions range from regulatory changes in cannabis to consumer trends in retail and the ramifications of technological advancements, setting a comprehensive backdrop for understanding today's business landscape.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:26Race the rudders! Good Morning Brew Daily Show. I'm Neil Freiman. And I'm Toby Howe. Today, the DEA is moving to reclassify cannabis as a less dangerous drug. Then Walmart is launching a new store brand to woo the youth with items like pistachio nut butter. It's Wednesday, May 1st. Let's ride.
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2:42Restrictions apply. New residential customers only. Taxes and fees extra and subject to change. Most reliable Wi-Fi based on OpenSignal Awards USA. Fixed broadband experience report, August 2024. Yesterday, a litany of government agencies teamed up to take another step towards moving marijuana down the totem pole when it comes to drug classifications. Currently, marijuana is a Schedule I drug alongside the likes of heroin and LSD, as determined by their potential for abuse, legal status, and medicinal uses. But yesterday, the Attorney General recommended loosening those restrictions following a DEA push to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug.
3:19It would be a major shift in federal drug policy. Should the proposal succeed, cannabis would instead be rubbing shoulders with Schedule 3 substances like anabolic steroids, Tylenol with codeine, and ketamine. It still needs to be approved by a White House agency before it goes into effect, and it would not legalize marijuana outright for recreational use. But still, it's a major shift that already sent weed stocks soaring. two separate cannabis-focused ETFs jumped 19 % and 20%, showing investors are loving the sound of a more relaxed federal approach to the substance. Neil, this is a historic step.
3:56What are some of the implications? Yeah, the main move to go from a Schedule I to a Schedule III is tax-related. So it's gonna make these marijuana cannabis companies a lot more profitable because right now, as a Schedule I drug, They cannot write off certain normal tax deductions that a normal business can do, like rent or their employees' wages. Now, if this happens and they move to a Schedule 3, then they're going to be able to do that, which is going to juice the profits of these cannabis companies. Yeah, there is a specific section of the IRS called Section 280E, which prohibits cannabis companies from deducting what would otherwise be ordinary business expensive.
4:35So removing that tax burden is just a massive, massive boost. And why these cannabis stocks arguably jumped so much. It could also shrink the black market, too. Because remember, the black market has thrived despite marijuana being legal in places like New York, California. And in some places, it's actually undercut the legal market because, remember, the legal market has to deal with those higher regulations, that higher tax burden. So hopefully or maybe in the administration's eyes, they're thinking this is another chance to deal a blow to the black market. I mean, you just walk around New York City and you see a bodega selling weed right next to a legal dispensary.
5:12So these black market, gray, gray market cannabis dispensaries are operating just as much as the legal market here in New York. Some advocacy groups are not happy, though, because they think the only real winner is the cannabis industries who will get that new tax break and thus they'll boost their profit margins. Meanwhile, they think it's going to hurt Americans, especially kids who are now probably going to face a lot more advertising, a lot more promotion of weed products from these companies who now are enjoying this more relaxed environment. So it's not all hunky dory because some researchers still have health concerns.
5:50High potency marijuana can and also cannabis induced psychiatric disorders are still out there. And some researchers are pointing to that. So even though that we are moving towards a fully legalized landscape for marijuana, there still is some people saying maybe we should pump the brakes a little. Yeah. But just just to be clear, like this is not legalizing marijuana at the federal level. A number of states have done, I think 24 states have legalized it for recreational use in adults, and then 38 have legalized it for medical uses. But this is a step in that direction, but is not directly linked to federal legalization.
6:30But just looking at the public opinion polling on this and how this has changed over the past decades is actually insanely dramatic. I mean, in 2000, 30 percent of people backed federal legalization of cannabis and now 70 percent do. So this has been a sea change in public opinion over the past few decades. Today, health care giant UnitedHealth will face the music when its CEO testifies before Congress about a hack that froze the U.S. health system for months. This dates back to February when a UnitedHealth subsidiary that processes more than 40 percent of the nation's medical claims was hit with a cyber attack.
7:06The breach froze transactions and prevented many hospitals, doctors and other providers from getting paid. Analysts estimated the entire health network was losing one billion dollars per day. It was a colossal disaster. And the fact that so much of U.S. health care could be knocked offline by a single hack of a payments processor made everyone go, wait a second. Like, what exactly is going on here? And what is going on is that UnitedHealth is bigger and more influential than you could ever imagine. The company handles health data for 50 percent of all Americans. It is the country's fourth largest company by revenue, bringing in more sales than Alphabet and Microsoft.
7:46An estimated five percent of U.S. gross domestic product flows through its systems every single day. So on the surface, today's hearing will be about the hack and its fallout. But you can bet lawmakers will also be asking tough questions about UnitedHealth's market power, how it got so big in the first place, and whether its size presents serious risks to our health care system. Yeah, this hack paralyzed so much of the U.S. healthcare system. And so obviously a bunch of lawmakers looked at it and said, listen, UHD, you are probably a little too big. You're a little too important to too many parts of the healthcare system.
8:18CEO Andrew Witte is looking at it differently, saying that the company's size actually helped insulate it from the attack. If they weren't so incredibly big, then it probably would have been even worse for the health care system. So I think that's some of the lines of reasoning that both sides are going to adopt in this hearing here. And it was one of the costliest hacks ever. They think that the February 21 attack could reduce profit by as much as$1.6 billion this year, which on the surface, I was like, wow, that's a big hack. But then you realize that UnitedHealth made$99 billion in the first three months of last year.
8:52It is just an insanely, insanely large company. The revenue numbers, I cannot quite wrap my head around. And profit numbers. I mean, it's$22 billion in profit. I mean, many people listening to this are interacting with UnitedHealth every single day. You may not even realize it. I'm just going to run down some of its few business units. I mentioned that they have 2 ,200 subsidiaries. The big one is its insurance. It provides health coverage to about 50 million patients through United Healthcare Insurance Division. It operates a pharmacy benefit manager with negotiates drug prices. And, you know, this is what you pay for prescription drugs.
9:27It has this processing claims network that this is the one that got hacked. It's one of its smallest divisions, but one of its most profitable. And then it has this$227 billion Optum division that is an employer of 90 ,000 physicians. So it's got its tentacles in literally every single part of the health care system. The phrase you hear brought up in terms of antitrust and regulation with the law, what these lawmakers are going to bring up today is single point of failure. It is so concentrated. It is so interconnected. UnitedHealthcare controls so much that as evidence from this hack, one vulnerability, it's like the Death Star.
10:04It's got one vulnerability. You can go in and it kind of disrupts the entire system. And so lawmakers will be looking at, wait, how did UnitedHealth get so big in the first place? Is it controlling too much? And is there a single point of failure that not only brings risk to the health care system, but national security too? And it's also usually the smaller clinics downstream of UnitedHealth that suffer the most when a hack like this happens. Because, again, UHG is so big, it can weather this storm. But when you have some clinics relying on patients to pay in advance in cash or to just stay afloat while this hack happens.
10:36And so it's always, it turns out the little guys that suffer here while UHG is going to soldier along just fine. And UHG has not been before Congress in 15 years. This is the first time the CEO is testifying in 15 years. I mean, Zuck has been there, and you can say it was justified. Zuck has been there like three times a month for the past three years, and this company has just kind of skated by. So you'll face some tough questions today. Walmart is launching a Yassified store label food brand for the youth. It's the chain's biggest in-house brand launch in 20 years as it hopes to ride the affordable private label wave that you may have heard us talk about on yesterday's show.
11:11The brand is called Better Goods, and Walmart says it'll have 300 products in the line by the fall, ranging from cardamom, rose, raspberry jam, and curry chicken empanadas to gluten-free muffin mix and oat milk ice cream. Even though the packaging and items feel upscale, the prices are not. Most products typically range from$2 to$15, with most coming in under$5. The launch comes at an especially tenuous time for shoppers as food costs are eating up the highest percentage of household spending in years. It also places Walmart squarely among competitors like Costco, Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, who all have strong and lucrative store branded items.
11:48Neil, private label brands accounted for over a quarter of overall food and beverage units sold last year. Feels like this is the right time for Walmart to roll out something like this. Walmart wants to capitalize on two trends that are going on right now. One is inflation and people seeking out lower cost food. That's obviously been a big one. The other is that during COVID, people spent a lot of time in their kitchens and they actually made more ambitious meals at home. And you might say, oh, that's not really anything. Yeah, sure. I tried like a little more like a souffle or risotto. But that is actually a big trend that's been making waves across the food industry.
12:23And you can't just offer people mac and cheese or something super simple anymore. They want to go more ambitious and adventurous in the kitchen. And so Walmart, with all these products that you were mentioning, is rolling out a private label that seeks to capitalize on people seeking for low-cost goods, but also just not the standard basic stuff that people may have tried to cook before COVID. But now after COVID and during COVID, they got all their new kitchen implements and want to be a little more experimental. Yeah, they definitely wanted to offer new food items, not just copycats of existing stuff out there.
12:54and also reading through how kind of the Walmart food development team went about creating this new line. They said they were sometimes going on these food trips where they'd go to restaurants because restaurants are usually on the forefront of developing new items. And they're saying it sounds fun to go try all these new places, but sometimes they're eating eight meals a day and it gets to be a slog just looking for something new that can capture people's imaginations without going too far down the line of experimental food items. They're also just look at Kirkland. And look at these brands that have developed such a cult following over the years.
13:26If you can build a reputation for having really high quality stuff at really low prices, you are going to build this fanatical following. So I bet you Walmart execs say they're looking at Kirkland, they're looking at Trader Joe's and saying, we need to do something like that. And it looks like this new range is that for them. Yeah. And meanwhile, Walmart's just going up market in general. It wants those more affluent shoppers, which it's historically struggled with. And it looks like it's doing that pretty well. households making a hundred people from households making a hundred thousand to 150 ,000 a year were the second large cohort of shoppers in 2023 at Walmart so as it yossifies its score which I don't even know what that means but it sounds good what does yossify mean it just means to like millennialize it yeah no it's not a little bit it's more just uh like paint a nice little layer of branding over maybe some not so sexy branding in the past all right so as Walmart Yossify's its stores.
14:21It's remodeling its stores. It's trying to get in more luxury goods to its web offerings and its brick and mortar stores. And this is part of that transition where it's saying we have the low end of the market pretty locked down, but we want those more affluent people as well. Up next, you won't believe which company is offering gambling now.
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15:54They will be battling it out to see who can impress the world's biggest brands. This is a huge opportunity. This is the battle for the next big idea. This is not Play Play. We're spending millions of dollars. I'm so excited to embark on this adventure with all of you. Make the best idea win! On brand with Jimmy Fallon. Series premiere tonight on NBC. Dave and Buster's a safe haven for children to play games and parents to indulge in some beverages while they watch is adding gambling into the mix. Loyalty members will have the ability to bet on games of skee-ball or street fighter. Yes, as long as you're age 18 or older, you can wager real money on arcade games with friends.
16:36The chain is using tech from a gamification company called Lucra, and it gives you the ability to formalize those handshake wagers so many of us do between friends. So I'd say to Neil, I bet you five bucks that I can beat you in Papa Shot. We'd open the contest in the app, play our game, and Neil would probably end up paying me$5. Now you're probably thinking, is this illegal? The answer is yes, because skill-based games like air hockey or skeeball are not subject to the same regulations as games of chance like craps or roulette. And Lucra is very careful to not use the term bet or wager to describe its games.
17:08They say contests or challenges. Neil, this is part of a burgeoning social gambling industry. And this feels like a smart move from Dave and Buster's, right? Yeah, for many, though, this feels like the degradation of our society into a bunch of gambling addicts. There were jokes made about a dad coming home to his family and being like, sorry, sorry, folks. I just lost$90 ,000 in skee-ball at Dave and Buster's, you know, and like the fact that we can't just go out and have wholesome fun anymore. We need to wager on everything. But yes, this is smart by Dave and Busters because it wants to increase membership in its loyalty program.
17:45It wants to bring more people in to spend more money, spend more time at Dave and Busters. And they think that moving a lot of those in real life experiences to a digital gamification offering where you're actually recording stuff on an app and that app would be its loyalty program. You'll spend more, you'll stay longer and you'll want to come back because you had a good time. I want to dive into Lucra a little bit. They just signed a deal with Duper, which is the pickleball rating system, Tennis One, which is a tennis app to kind of formalize those competitions between friends. Like if we went out to go play tennis or pickleball, we could put our game within the app and do a payout there.
18:18But I was thinking a little bit, is it really do we really need an app for this, though? Because we can just go out and say, let's put 10 bucks on this game. And then there's plenty of ways to facilitate payments like Venmo. Like, I mean, some people still use cash, believe it or not. So I don't know if there is a huge need for it. I like directionally where Lucra is heading, but we can just do that a handshake agreement without an app getting involved. Yeah, but there are apps for a lot of things that people like using and not pen and paper or relying on their brain. This also ties into the larger social betting industry, which is kind of exploded in recent years after the Supreme Court allowed legal wagering on sports.
18:59And they're not technically sports books. They're in a regulatory gray area, and that lets them slide by because they rely on virtual money and virtual currency. They're not pay to play. So they say they're sweepstakes apps and they escape regulations so they can be in all 50 states. And they're just immensely popular. Eight out of the top 10 sports apps right now are gambling related. Some of the most famous ones are PrizePix, which is the top downloaded free sports app in Apple's App Store. So this is you go on, you play a little virtual currency, and you bet as you normally would. and you just maybe you can actually cash out in in in real money but you know critics are warning that this is literally a pipeline to the actual sportsbooks like FanDuel Caesars and we should regulate these more but they are just proliferating like crazy I do just want to give one final shout out to Dave and Busters we talked about how big United Health Group is Dave and Busters is a lot bigger than I thought as well it says it has five million loyalty members 30 million unique visitors to his location each year.
19:58That was bigger than I expected. And his stock is up more than 50 % over the past year. So Dave & Buster's is doing all right. It's becoming as routine as Tyrese Maxey Brilliance. A buzzy startup releases an AI gadget. The popular reviewer Marques Brownlee bashes the device and an existential debate ensues over the state of the tech industry. Last month, Marques called the$700 Humane AI pin the worst product he's ever reviewed, causing all kinds of controversy about his power to tank a promising young company. This week, Marques released a video about the new Rabbit R1, which, like the Humane pin, is a gadget powered by AI that ultimately aims to replace your smartphone.
20:38Think about this as a hyper-personalized assistant that does a lot of your tasks without you having to stare at a screen. While Humane is a pin you wear, the Rabbit is a bright orange box you carry around with you. But Marques did not like the Rabbit either, and his main critique of the device hit a nerve. He said the gadget as is was barely reviewable because it did not have most of the features that were promised. And that critique hit a nerve because this has become a major trend. Tech companies are increasingly releasing products that they acknowledge are the bare minimum of what will eventually be offered.
21:11And yet they're still asking you to pay full price. Toby, does Marquez have a point with this? Yeah, he absolutely has a point. And you are so right. Like clockwork, this the discourse, the discourse, man, it just breaks out every time you post one of these videos. And I actually think the disconnect is one between customers and venture capitalists. Jason Levin, this writer I follow on Twitter, he said that MKBHC understands one key thing. Customers are not VCs. Customers pay for finished products, not ideas of products like VCs. So you can't sell customers unfinished products that are advertised as finished and expect the same optimism as selling the ideas to VCs.
21:47That is why we see this discourse breakout between the tech elite on Twitter saying, like, can you imagine if someone had come along to the iPhone when it first rolled out and started critiquing all the things and mocking it and saying, like, this is barely reviewable? Would we have the iPhone that we have today? Because I do think people have a little bit of amnesia about that first iPhone. Remember, when it came out, didn't have copy paste. It was so brittle. It basically explode every time you dropped it. Didn't have video recording. You couldn't send or receive pictures. all these basic things that other smartphones of that era had.
22:19The list just goes on. So what if a reviewer of the same size influence like MKBHD came along and said the iPhone is trash? Would we have the iPhone today? It's tough to say, but I see where the heart of that debate comes from. Yeah, I think this touched a nerve because it's not just happening in tech. It's happening across the ecosystem where companies are releasing the bare minimum of a product and hoping to get a lot of data on how users are using it. And then they're going to do that to what's called iterate in the tech world and make improvements and then release a better product. But the problem is they're still asking for full price.
22:53And luckily for consumers, the Rabbit R1 is only worth$100. It's only cost$199. So it's a little more palatable compared to the Humane AI pin, which is$700. But this is happening in gaming. The studio Bethesda is known for rushing games out with a bunch of bugs. And then users will find the bugs and then they'll make the changes and then release a better version of the game. It's also is happening in the auto industry with Fisker's truck. That also that also involved Marquez Brownlee as well. He reviewed the truck and said, this is so bad. And then the company went on a wild goose chase to call him up, find him and tell him that there is a new update for the truck.
23:33And he was like, I don't want that. I want what you're selling right now to consumers, what they're buying for full price, because you're this update that you're saying is coming in the future. It's not what people are buying now. So I refuse this offer. So let's just go back to the rabbit for our final point here. How was the rabbit? I was poking kind of through the subreddit where some people had also interacted with the device and they basically said this should just be an app on a smartphone. Like all the things that they're saying the rabbit does, it would just be better with the greater computing power, the better camera, the better speaker that your iPhone already has.
24:07There's no real reason to have this very nifty hardware aspect of it. People did praise the actual design of it, like the retro kind of futuristic design language to it. But again, sometimes you don't need to reinvent the wheel when you already have a pretty good wheel already in your pocket. Finally, you've got to hear about the saga of the$13 Cartier earrings. This story begins last December when Mexican surgery resident Rogelio Villareal was doing something very familiar to anyone. He was mindlessly scrolling on Instagram. While doing that, he was hit with an ad for Cartier and looked through the fancy bling, handbags, watches, and necklaces on the website, each listed for thousands of dollars.
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24:47Then he noticed something odd. One pair of earrings, studded 18-karat rose gold cuffs lined with diamonds, was priced at 237 Mexican pesos, or about$13. Couldn't believe in his luck, he snagged two pairs. Of course, this was a glitch. A pair of these earrings typically cost more than$13 ,000, so he got them at a 99.9 % discount. Realizing their mistake, Cartier tried to cancel the order numerous times and kicked off a months-long back and forth with Villarreal, who held his ground and picked up a big following on social media as he documented his fight with a luxury jeweler. Ultimately, Cartier relented, and last Friday, Villarreal said he received the earrings in the mail and he's going to give them to his mom.
25:32War is over, he tweeted. There is this very interesting consumer protection law in Mexico that actually does give consumers a fair amount of leeway. And if a company is not respecting the terms and conditions under which a product or service is purchased. So he found a form to contact Cartier on their website, did his due diligence and kind of went down this legal path. The ironic thing, though, is that Mexican law does not extend protections to consumers if a price listed was clearly a mistake, which was obviously the case in this example. Like you're not, Cartier is not going to put up the rings for a 99.9 % discount.
26:08So that is kind of the ironic part is that if this case had gone to the core of law, it probably would have worked out in favor for Cartier. So it caused a ton of discourse, especially in Mexico, where some senators were weighing in and saying, listen, don't do what this guy did. Don't abuse the law in this sense. This is clearly a case where this consumer protection law has been abused. It's not a great moral look for him. While other people are like, hey, he's the underdog here. Let's root him on. So it was an interesting kind of two sides broke out in this in this earring debacle. Right. It is.
26:39It is a moral question. It's kind of like if you find a wallet or some money on the ground, what do you do with it? I think a lot of people were siding with him because it's not really, you know, it's it's kind of a David versus Goliath story with this luxury jeweler versus this one random guy who happened to find a loophole. And so this Mexican senator might have been a little too harsh, I think, for broader public opinion. You probably sided with him. let's leave it at that today thanks for listening and happy first day of may you know the drill send an email to morningbrewdailyatmorningbrew.com for any feedback on the show really helps us get better one quick correction to yesterday's show robin hood's one percent account transfer promo ends june 28th not june 30th as stated in the episode let's roll the credits emily milliron is our executive producer raymond lu is our producer olivia graham is our associate producer yuchenna Ogu is our technical director.
27:31Billy Menino is on audio. It's going to be makeup and hair. Devin Emery is our chief content officer and our show is a production of Morning Brew. Great show today, Neil. Let's run it back tomorrow.
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Episode 313: Neal and Toby talk about the US government’s move to reclassify Marijuana as a lower-risk drug and what it means for the cannabis industry. Then, the UnitedHealth hack has opened up fresh scrutiny on whether the big health insurer should be broken up. Also, Walmart wants to lure a new type of customer with their premium private label brand. Next, Dave & Buster’s will allow customers to bet against each other while playing games. Meanwhile, another AI wearable device gets the attention of MKBHD. Lastly, a man in Mexico scores $13,000 Cartier earrings for $13.
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