MOMENT | Love is made in the repair - here's how to do it, with Mastin Kipp

28 Apr 2025 · 6 min

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The Motherkind Podcast - Episode Summary

Podcast Overview Title: The Motherkind Podcast Host: Zoe Blaskey Description: This podcast focuses on the challenges of motherhood in today's fast-paced world, providing insights from wellbeing teachers and personal stories from mothers. Topics range from emotional regulation to self-care.

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Episode Details Episode Title: MOMENT | Love is made in the repair - here's how to do it, with Mastin Kipp Guest: Mastin Kipp, best-selling author and life coach Description: This episode addresses emotional regulation during frustration and the impact of our nervous system on relationships. It emphasizes the importance of repair in maintaining emotional connections.

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Key Concepts and Discussions

Neuroception

  • Definition: The body's automatic detection of safety and threat, primarily below the head.
  • Function: Sends signals to the brain via the vagus nerve, influencing emotional states.
  • Impact: Triggers can occur without conscious awareness, affecting vocal tone and facial expressions.

Emotional Triggers

  • Reality of Triggers: Everyone experiences triggers, regardless of their emotional background or trauma history.
  • Importance of Response: The focus should be on how to respond upon noticing a trigger rather than avoiding triggers altogether.

Repairing Relationships

  • Core Idea: Love and healthy relationships are built during the repair process after triggers.
  • Analogy: Similar to muscle growth, which occurs during recovery after stress (exercise), relationships strengthen through effective repair strategies.

Strategies for Repair

  • Repair Strategy Necessity: Having a method for repairing relationships is crucial for emotional bonding.
  • Breathing Techniques:
  • Focus on longer exhales than inhales to calm the nervous system.
  • Recommended practice: Inhale for 6 seconds, exhale for 24 seconds.
  • Humming:
  • A natural way to soothe both oneself and a child.
  • Can help regulate the vagus nerve.

Overall Emotional Regulation

  • Self-Regulation Techniques:
  • Acknowledge triggers without self-blame.
  • Utilize slow breathing and humming as calming techniques.
  • Forgiveness: Understand that triggers are a natural human response, and self-compassion is essential.

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Conclusion The episode with Mastin Kipp underscores the importance of understanding our nervous system's role in emotional regulation and the necessity of repair in relationships. By adopting practices such as controlled breathing and humming, mothers can navigate frustrations better and strengthen their emotional connections with their children and partners. The discussion highlights that while triggers are inevitable, the repair process is crucial for fostering secure attachments.

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0:07Another thing to understand about human beings, which is true mother to child and certainly in romantic relationships is that there's this concept called neuroception. And what that means is neuroception is just the perception of your nervous system, primarily below your head. All the nerves, all the organs below your body are all like threat detection machines and they're all sending you signals up the vagus nerve into your brain. When you're feeling anxiety or when you're feeling this type of stress, that is typically triggers in the body that the brain is detecting. And that's called neuroception.

0:41And the thing about neuroception is that it changes your vocal tone without you knowing it. It changes your facial expression without you knowing it because the trigger happens before you're aware of it. So anyone who wishes to not get triggered is never going to be happy because the trigger is going to happen. The first thing to understand is you will get triggered. Even like the most untraumatized person who's done all their work still has emotional triggers because we're human. So it's not about not getting triggered. It's about what do you do when you notice it and how you notice it, right?

1:12And the thing about secure attachment and relationship, and siblings know this. I didn't know this because I was an only child. It took me a long time to figure this out. Love is built in the repair. And relationships and safety are built in the repair process. So just like when you're lifting weights and you go to the gym and you're lifting a weight and you build muscle, the muscle isn't built in the gym. You rip the muscle apart and create microtrauma. and then when you're sleeping, the muscle is built during the repair process. Relationships are the exact same way. So it's not so much about not getting upset or not being triggered.

1:49It's more about like do you have a repair strategy? And that is the most important thing, to have a repair strategy because the repair is the most important piece of creating these healthy bonds. And then the other thing I would say is literally one of the most powerful tools for regulating the nervous system and really getting into a better vagal state, which is the vagus nerve is the nerve that essentially is controlling how much anxiety you feel or peace you feel, is to make your exhales longer than your inhales. So if 80 % of your breath can be an exhale, it's going to be very hard to have that anxiety feeling because you can't exhale and feel anxious at the same time.

2:27It doesn't really work that way. And it activates what's called the vagal break. And so literally, you could take 30-second breaths where you have an inhale for like six seconds and then 24 seconds exhale. You just slowly exhale. And then also, especially if you're with a child who's young, humming is a great way to regulate your vagus nerve and to calm yourself down. And it's also very, very calming for a child. So when you kind of have a mom who's holding a baby close and then she kind of intuitively is just kind of humming something and maybe moving the child, all of those things are instinctual regulation behavior.

3:03So you can do that for yourself too. So it's really about regulating yourself. So you don't have to resolve everything. Just slow exhales, some humming, forgiving yourself for realizing that you got triggered because your nervous system responded before you could do anything about it. And then having some repair strategies can be a really powerful concoction for creating secure attachments because everybody gets triggered. It's how you repair that matters.

From the publisher

Motherkind Moment is your place for calm and connection and a shift in perspective before the week ahead. 

Number one best-selling author and life coach Mastin Kipp joins us to discuss how we can regulate our emotions when we are feeling frustrated. He explains how our behaviour and relationships are affected by our nervous system, what we can do to calm it down when we're feeling anxious, and why this helps maintain our closest attachments.

For more powerful insights from Mastin Kipp listen to the full episode here: The most important inner work a parent can do

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