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The Motherkind Podcast - Episode Summary
Podcast Overview Podcast Title: The Motherkind Podcast Host: Zoe Blaskey Description: Aimed at helping mothers navigate the challenges of modern motherhood through insights from wellbeing teachers and self-development experts.
Episode Details Episode Title: MOMENT | "Your children need a model, not a martyr"
Guest
Glennon Doyle Focus: Addressing the damaging legacy of martyrdom in motherhood and advocating for a model of living fully.
Key Themes and Insights
- Martyrdom vs. Modeling
- Key Concept: The episode emphasizes that mothers should model a fulfilled life rather than sacrificing themselves.
- Quote: “A responsible mother is not one slowly dying for her children, but showing them how to bravely live.”
- The Damaging Legacy of Martyrdom
- Personal Experience: Glennon shares her experience of how her mother’s martyrdom affected her and her brother.
- Understanding the Burden: Children of martyr mothers often feel guilty for their parents' sacrifices, which leads to a cycle of unhealthy expectations.
- The Need for Self-Permission
- Equivalence of Needs: The belief that a mother’s needs should come second to her children's is challenged. Glennon argues that mothers should have equal permission to live their truths.
- Personal Reflection: Glennon recounts a pivotal moment when she realized she was staying in a broken marriage for her daughter's sake, questioning whether she would want the same for her child.
- The Journey to Self-Discovery
- Self-Discovery Process: Glennon discusses her journey to find herself again, which began with acknowledging her discontent.
- Practical Steps:
- Start with small moments of self-reflection (e.g., seven minutes of stillness).
- Facing the truth within oneself can be challenging but is essential for personal growth.
- The Importance of Stillness
- Challenges of Stillness: Sitting in silence can be difficult as it forces individuals to confront their inner truths.
- Insight from Stillness: Glennon notes that the more one practices stillness, the more one can hear their inner voice guiding them towards the next right action.
Key Takeaways
- Martyrdom is Harmful: Sacrificing oneself in the name of motherhood can lead to bitterness and a poor legacy for children.
- Self-Care is Essential: Mothers should actively seek permission to prioritize their wellbeing.
- Rediscovering Self: Taking time for oneself is critical to understand personal needs and desires.
- Encouragement for Listeners: Embrace the discomfort of self-discovery as a necessary part of leading a fulfilling life.
Conclusion This episode presents a transformative perspective on motherhood, encouraging mothers to shift from the traditional martyr role to one where they model healthy living and self-care for their children. By doing so, mothers can break the cycle of unhealthy expectations and create a nurturing environment for themselves and their children.
For further insights, listeners are encouraged to check out Glennon Doyle's full episode on how to embody a model of living rather than martyrdom.
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Transcript
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1:33A responsible mother is not one slowly dying for her children, but showing them how to bravely live. I stopped being a martyr and started being a model. That is on another level. It's so fascinating, right? It's like I started figuring that language out. You know, I almost stayed in my broken marriage. I almost I fell in love with Abby. And then I really almost just abandoned myself again. Yeah. Because I was so tamed to believe that a good mother just doesn't ever do anything to hurt her children. That a good mother, we have this thing that we say without thinking about it because it actually doesn't make any sense that we need to put our children's needs above our own.
2:16Oh, I hate that. Yes. As if it's a hierarchy, as if our children's needs aren't exactly the same as ours. As if what we all need is not exactly the same, which is permission to live our truest, most beautiful lives. Right. that is what I need and that is what my children need and they will only get what they need if they see their mother giving herself permission to have that thing I know it's such horseshit that it's one or the other you know and I think the reason that passage is actually on my office wall I think the reason is is because I had a mother who martyred herself for 20 years in the name of my brother and I and when she was at the peak of her own pain she said to me this she said you know I've given my whole life for you and it's my turn now and I said to myself inside I was really upset and I said to myself I never asked you to it's right and I feel so emotional saying that and I you know I think that's I never asked her to give up her life for me ever I think each daughter wants their mother to be free yes what i wanted what a mom of course of course what a burden martyr to motherhood it is a burden to pass on to children because not only i am in the same boat as you and what happens is that people who were raised by martyr mothers are fucked both ways because you spend your life feeling guilty that your mother gave her life for you without you asking.
3:58And then you spend the rest of your life trying desperately to undo the idea that you have to do that for your children because your mother did that for you. Yes. So the burden goes both ways. It's a terrible legacy to pass on to our children. It is why Carl Young said, the greatest burden we can hand to our children is the unlived life of a parent. It is something that we desperately need to untame ourselves from is that belief. The reason I used that language. And when this really came to me, I had to learn it myself. It was when I did almost decide just to stay in my broken marriage for my little girl who's so sensitive.
4:40And And I was looking at her and I was doing her hair, I think, and something just snapped inside me. I just looked at her and I thought, oh my God, I am staying in this marriage for her. But would I want this marriage for her? And if I would not want this marriage for my little girl, then why am I modeling bad love and calling that good mothering? And that is because I had this invisible poison root planted beneath me that said, good mothers are martyrs. That what a mother does, what a good mother does is just buries herself, just buries herself, her needs, her dreams, her humanity, her emotions, her, her very being.
5:23And she calls that love. And that is what she passes down to her children, which is so damaging and it never works, right? We are human beings. so mothers who martyr themselves always with zero exceptions turn out bitter that is that conversation you had I have given my whole life for you I never asked you to yeah I never asked you to never asked you to yeah they don't ask us for that burden they do not ask for that burden
5:57it's so insidious almost isn't it this and I love that that analogy that you use of you know that toxic root if there's someone listening who is thinking I want to I want to free myself I don't know where to start well I mean the first thing that you have to do I think to live from yourself is find yourself again yeah I mean I right I mean I what the hell did I know I didn't know what I wanted I didn't know who I was I didn't know what I dreamed of I didn't know how I truly felt I didn't know what I was capable of. When you find yourself in that moment where you admit that you have some discontent and some longing, that's the first step.
6:40We're not even supposed to do that, right? We're not supposed to admit that we have something inside of ourselves that says that is an ache, that is a longing, that is a hunch that it was supposed to be more beautiful than this, right? That my relationships were supposed to be more beautiful, that my, my career was supposed to be more beautiful, that my life was supposed to be more beautiful. So I think the first step is just admitting that discontent. I think that's such a beautiful thing. We're trained to believe that that means we're not grateful. Yes. But that means that our imagination has not given up on us yet.
7:13It means we are not dead yet. I love that line about imagination. I can't recall it off the top of my head. Yeah. I mean, that longing, that ache, that thing inside of ourselves, that's just, that's hope. Yeah. So I think we first admit that we have that. And then for me, it was just a very long process of, I mean, after I saw, after I saw that thing happen on the couch, I was just like, okay, I got to find myself again. I got to, I actually started locking myself in a closet for seven minutes a day because I had heard that there was this knowing inside of me that if I actually did figure out how to sink inside, dive inside, that there would be this magical self inside that I would find.
8:06And that annoyed the shit out of me because I was not, I didn't have a woo-woo bone in my body and it sounded very woo-woo to me, but you know, insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and hoping for different results and like taking Buzzfeed quizzes wasn't working. So I just decided that maybe maybe I would just give it a try. What did I have to lose? And so the kids would go off to school and I would promise myself seven minutes, seven minutes. And I would sit there on the floor. And at first it was just a complete nightmare. I mean, the reason people don't get still is because it's the hardest thing on earth.
8:43Okay. Like almost anything is easier than returning to yourself and turning off all of the voices on the outside and sitting with yourself because inside the stillness is the truth. Right. And the truth is scary as all hell. Like inside stillness, when you turn inside yourself is all of the pain and the things that haven't healed yet. and the things we've been avoiding. It's like, it's like the settling of the snow globe. And we do all of those things, the busyness and the distraction to keep ourselves from having to face what's in the middle of the snow globe, but nothing beautiful happens in our lives.
9:22If we don't face what's inside the snow globe. Right. And so at first it was just seven minutes of hell. You know, I would spend most of it, like trying to figure out how I might rearrange my pantry. Like I have never rearranged my pantry in my entire life, but suddenly when I sat on the floor, it became of utmost importance. And then after a while, this thing happened, which is that I found the thing that is inside of us that is always telling the truth, right? It's like we keep the voices on the outside so loud because the voice inside only speaks in a whisper, but it never stops. It's always there if we return to it and if we practice returning to it.
10:02and I hesitate to even call it a whisper because I've never once heard it in a voice really except actually the moment I met Abby usually it's just like a directional pull kind of it's like a nudge that kind of nudges me towards the next right thing that's all it is and I've just found that I can live my entire life just sinking inside blocking the voices out outside and just doing the next right thing that the nudge points me towards.
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Motherkind Moment is your place for calm and connection and a shift in perspective before the week ahead.
This week we are joined by author Glennon Doyle. This is an incredible episode rich in insight. Glennon talks about the damaging legacy of martyrdom in motherhood and why you should model to your children how to live life fully, rather than sacrificing yourself.
For more powerful insights from Glennon Doyle listen to the full episode here: How to be a model, not a martyr
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