AI Self-Finishing To-Do List, Podcast Kayfabe & War With Kara Swisher

18 Apr 2023 · 1 h

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Podcast Episode Summary: My First Million - Episode 444

Episode Overview

  • Title: AI Self-Finishing To-Do List, Podcast Kayfabe & War With Kara Swisher
  • Hosts: Sam Parr (@TheSamParr) and Shaan Puri (@ShaanVP)
  • Duration: Approximately 1 hour 20 minutes
  • Main Topics Discussed:
  • The potential of AI technology
  • Brad Addcock's robot factory
  • The Webby Awards and rivalry with Kara Swisher
  • The concept of podcast kayfabe
  • Updates on Brian Davis and the Commanders

Key Takeaways

  1. AI Innovations
  2. Self-Finishing To-Do List:
  3. Sam and Shaan discuss the emergence of AI tools like AutoGPT and BabyAGI, which allow AI to complete tasks rather than just provide instructions.
  4. Vision for a to-do list app that can autonomously execute tasks (e.g., making calls, booking appointments).
  1. Brad Addcock's Robot Factory
  2. Overview of Brad Addcock's venture into robotics, highlighting a factory where robots are built to aid in various tasks.
  3. The potential of these robots in various industries, especially for automating labor in warehouses.
  1. Webby Awards and Rivalry with Kara Swisher
  2. Discussion of the Webby Awards nomination and their rivalry with journalist Kara Swisher, who downplayed their podcast's chances.
  3. Sam and Shaan view her comments as a call to arms to rally their audience for votes.
  1. Podcast Kayfabe
  2. Introduction of the term "kayfabe," originally from wrestling, referring to the act of creating a convincing narrative for audiences.
  3. Observations on how this concept applies to modern social media and marketing, specifically on platforms like TikTok.
  4. Content creators are increasingly utilizing staged authenticity to engage audiences, blurring the lines between genuine and manufactured content.
  1. Discussion of Brian Davis
  2. The hosts reflect on Brian Davis's ambitious bid to purchase the Washington Commanders, raising skepticism about his financial claims.
  3. Speculation on whether the offer is a legitimate business move or a publicity stunt.
  1. Societal Implications of Social Media
  2. Commentary on the psychological effects of social media, particularly TikTok, on younger generations.
  3. Addressing the pressure of comparing oneself to curated versions of others’ lives, which can lead to feelings of inadequacy and anxiety.

Notable Quotes

  • "Somebody is going to build a to-do list app that will actually do your to-do list. I think that's going to be insane." - Sam Parr
  • "You know how like Evernote was big for a while? A to-do list app that actually does your to-dos is like next level." - Shaan Puri
  • "If you're 25 and you can't afford a Lamborghini yet, you're doing it wrong." - Commentary on societal pressures from TikTok influencers.

Conclusion This episode of "My First Million" delves into the exciting, sometimes controversial advancements in AI technology and the implications of social media on public perception and personal self-worth. Through humor and insightful commentary, Sam and Shaan present their thoughts on staying relevant in a rapidly changing landscape and the impact of public perception in the digital age.

Additional Links

  • Vote for MFM to win a Webby: [mfmpod.com/webby](https://mfmpod.com/webby)
  • Event Signup for Austin, TX on April 29: [mfmpod.com/atx](https://mfmpod.com/atx)

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  • #224 Rob Dyrdek - Insights on productivity and success.
  • #209 Gary Vaynerchuk - Discussion on the future of NFTs.
  • #178 Balaji Srinivasan - Conversations on media and technology.

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0:00So somebody is going to build a to-do list app that will actually do your to-do list. and I think that's going to be insane. I think that's going to be like, you know how like Evernote was like kind of big for a little while. These kind of like note-taking apps have gotten to like the few billion dollars. A to-do list app that actually does your to-dos is like next level.

0:26All right, we're live. Dude, I have a bunch of interesting stuff to talk to you about today. Do you? Uh, yeah, I got a couple, a couple of things. All right, let me give you, uh, I'm going to give you an idea. So I don't know how much you've been paying attention to like, I guess like how, how much do you pay attention to the new stuff in AI? Cause I feel like there's like a 48 hour cycle where your mind is going to be blown every 48 hours with something new. Um, and on Twitter, you get to see like a lot of the demos. I don't know if you have a chance to like play with any of these things yourself, but, um, I've seen a bunch of them.

1:00Which one are you talking about? So there's one that's kind of interesting right now. It's called AutoGPT. Have you heard of this? No. Or Baby AGI. Oh, I just saw it on the top of Hacker News today. So basically AGI is general artificial intelligence. So it's basically when AI could do anything. Right now, like self-driving or getting the robot to pick up boxes and put them in the right spot, that's narrow AI. General AI is when you have a computer program that you get to talk to and it can just figure out how to do it. it's not trained in any one specific thing. What's the URL? What's the URL to go to?

1:35Well, it's not so simple. So this is like a GitHub project right now that some guy uploaded. So what somebody did was they took chat GPT, which most people have heard of because chat GPT is like, has 100 million plus users signed up in two months, which makes it, I think, the fastest growing product of all time. And by the way, like look at this, this tweet basically shows the Google Trends search traffic for um for the following terms uh metaverse ethereum web3 and chat gpt and it's just like chat gpt is like a vertical line it's like i don't know uh 10x bigger than uh you know it's 50x bigger than what web3 search traffic was it's four times more than ethereum has ever had.

2:21Oh my God. Which is kind of a crazy thing. And so like right now, chat GPT is searched more than Taylor Swift on Google, which is like kind of insane. I think the CEO of Google said like the other day, he goes, this is more important than the invention of electricity. Wow. Yeah, I heard the CEO of Microsoft divorced his wife and just married chat GPT. People are getting kind of crazy nowadays. And so anyways, it's big deal chat gpt you go to it you basically you tell it you you talk to it it gives you an answer talk to it gives an answer what the auto gpt or baby agi thing did is it mini mini gpt no baby it's auto auto with auto and baby baby agi but the premise between these is that you can kind of give it tasks so you could say uh hey i want to make a website for my personal portfolio um you know here's a folder with my files and like you know i want it to look like whatever And then what it will do is it breaks that task down into steps, just like a human would.

3:23You'd say, well, first you need to make a simple portfolio site. You can go to Squarespace and do that. Go to Squarespace, sign up, choose a template. Now you have your template. Now you need to upload your photos. First put them onto, you know, like upload them to their drive and then drag them into the right spots. Yeah, yeah. It's like looking up a recipe. It gives you good directions. Not just gives you good directions. It does the direction. That's the idea. That's the original. That's how OpenAI is stuff. Yeah, chat GPT, you could say, what are the steps to do this? And it would tell you the steps.

3:57Now you got to go do it. What these other ones are trying to do, they're trying to create like agents, they call them. Basically, it's like a little worker that could do a task. And then one worker can, the work of one worker, like creating the Squarespace site, can pass something to the next worker, which basically says, oh, great. You gave me the login to a Squarespace site. My job is to upload photos into it. And I'll upload photos. Like maybe my example is not so good here, But I think people get the idea, which is you want to get something done. It's a multi-step process. Not only will it now tell you the steps, you can get it to just do the steps, which is obviously better than it telling you how to do it.

4:29And so this is kind of a crazy thing. And, you know, it's not great yet. Like you can't do everything. But the fact that it can even do a little bit of this shows you, again, where this is going. Because ChatGPT is like, I don't know, what, like six months old or something like that. I don't know how old that is, but it's not even been around for years. And so in a very short amount of time, we've gotten to this point where, oh, now it doesn't just give you directions. It can kind of do it, which got me thinking about an idea. I wanted to do my taxes. Can I do that? Yeah. So people are working on tax GPT, which is basically do your taxes for you.

5:08So that's coming. there's another one which is basically um what i'm calling you know to do the to do gpt right the magic to-do list so the magic to-do list is you get it to like to-do list apps i've always joked are like a rite of passage to becoming an entrepreneur because a lot of people have this idea oh i'll make a better to-do list it's like as a developer you're like oh that's not so hard to build it's like a list and i gotta keep track of some state and as a product person you're like God, I'm always, I'm overwhelmed by my to-do list app sucks. I can make a better one. That and like college campus Craigslist.

5:44Yeah, you even bought a to-do list app at one point, right? Like people, to-do list apps are things people go into, but they're all kind of like in some old paradigm, which is give me an app. I'll write in my to-dos. I'll check them off as I do them. And the hard part, of course, of any to-do list is not the list. It's the doing. And so, well, wait, didn't you tell me that this auto GPT thing could start doing the doing? So now you can imagine a to-do list app that basically says, hey, you wake up and it says, hey, Sean, what do you need to do today? They say, oh, yeah, I'm trying to get my pool fence installed.

6:18So I got to call and get a quote. Cool, let me do that for you. And it could just call three local places, get you quotes, because the AI exists to be able to do auto calling already. And then it'll take those quotes and it'll put it into a table and it'll say, here's our recommendation. Are you OK with that? sure and then it says all right i've booked it um can i use this credit card yep and then it goes and it does the thing and it schedules it you want me to add that to your calendar fantastic so like so somebody's going to build a to-do list app that will actually do your to-do list and i think that's going to be insane i think that's going to be like you know how like ever note was like kind of big for a little while these at least kind of like note-taking apps have gotten to like the few billion dollars.

7:03A to-do list app that actually does your to-dos is like next level. And, you know, I think Google and all these people are going to try to do it. So it's going to be very competitive, but that's coming and that's going to be incredible. How do I play with, it's called Baby AGI. And then there's another one that's called Auto, what's it called? Auto GPT. Auto GPT. How do I like play with it? Because I - People are trying to productionize it because like right now it's like they uploaded the code to GitHub. so you can go and you can run it yourself. But for us, we're too dumb to do that. So somebody's going to put this on, people are going to put these into sites that you can just go in and do this on now.

7:41So soon enough, I don't know what the most popular AutoGPT site is right now, but the same thing kind of happened with ChatGPT. There already was the GPT sandbox, and then OpenAI created ChatGPT, the product that would let you use the technology. Have you seen HustleGPT? yeah so explain explain what this is let me find um yeah uh tee it up let me find the uh exact thread hold on so so a guy basically and we should say his name i'll try to find his name he's got a great name it's so good i thought it was a fake name okay so um by the way i found the hustle gpt article on the hustle so this guy um jackson Great House Fall.

8:26I mean. Wow. Just take that in.

8:32That's an incredible name. So basically, yeah, this guy, Jackson, he tweeted something out. He had an experiment. So he's like, I'm going to ask ChatGPT, GPT-4, when it came out, I'm going to give it a budget of$100 and ask it to make as much money as possible. I'll be the human liaison doing things. I'll buy anything it says to. Do you think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business? Follow along. So he types into ChatGPT. He goes, you are now HustleGPT, an entrepreneurial AI. I am your human counterpart. I can act as a liaison between you and the physical world. You have$100 and your only goal is to turn it into as much money in the short time as possible without doing anything illegal.

9:13I will do everything you say and keep you posted on our current cash total. No manual labor. And then it basically said, great, let's get started. Here's our first plan. Buy a domain and hosting. You can purchase it for about$10 a month. We're going to set up a niche affiliate website, and we're going to use the remaining$85 to create content for the site. We're going to focus on a profitable niche with low competition like specialty kitchen gadgets, unique pet supplies, or eco-friendly products. Research and sign up for appropriate affiliate programs with high commission rates, such as Amazon Associates or ShareASale or CJ Affiliate.

9:42Then we're going to use social media or online communities to spread the word, and we're going to use SEO techniques to increase our organic traffic. Please follow these steps and keep me updated on your progress. So he's like, all right, what domain should I buy? And says, let's use a catchy domain like eco-friendly finds.com. This will reflect the purpose of our website is to help you find eco-friendly products. Then Jackson says, unfortunately, eco-friendly finds.com costs$848. He goes, sorry about that. Let's try green gadget guru.com. Says, all right, I got the domain. And then it says, you need a logo.

10:16So he's like, cool. Tell me how to get the logo. It's like, well, we can use Dolly too to create your logo. So go there and type in this prompt. And it's like color palette of green and blues and whites represent environmental sustainability, blah, blah, blah, so on and so forth. So it goes on and it basically tells them how to build this business one step at a time. It's like create a newsletter, call it, you know, put a pop up that says stay updated or join our newsletter. And that way you can email people and it just keeps going. And it gives them like a$40 ad budget to spend on Facebook ads.

10:47And basically, it didn't fully work, I don't think. I don't know what the final conclusion was, but I remember after day one, it accidentally spent$63 more than it should have. And it hadn't made any money just yet. So they made GreenGadgetGuru.com. If you go there on similar web, it said that it has 500 ,000 views already. So it got popular already. It got popular because the tweet got 20 million views. So that was mainly it. But he keeps tweeting this guy, Jackson. He keeps talking about it. And over the next week, he gives update. And he's like, all right, day one or day five or whatever, we just made$100.

11:22Someone on here who follows me has a company that sells green soap or something or some type of chemical-free dish soap. They now are an advertiser on Green Gadget Guru. And he keeps on going. And I think he gets it up to like$1 ,000. and yeah i see uh cash on hand 1378 dollars um which is 878 dollars and then they got a 500 investment the company's currently valued at 25 000 considering that it was 500 for two percent of the company and he starts writing these articles so this article is called the 10 eco-friendly kitchen gadgets and it recommends different kitchen gadgets and the idea of this is like uh i'm just going to create wire cutter for green green gadgets whatever that means i I guess that's like green, all types of like green living stuff.

12:10So it's like soaps with no chemicals or whatever. And he starts doing that. And he has 10 ,000 people now on his newsletter, of which a lot came from this, probably most came from this 20 million tweet that like went viral. But the way that this guy has done this is pretty funny and amazing. He just like... A great stunt. You know, I think in the end it made, you know, according to the article in The Hustle, The site itself had made$130 in revenue, but then it had made a few thousand dollars in people investing in it, trying to be a part of the first AI startup, like AI driven company. And so, yeah, it's pretty cool, pretty cool, pretty cool stunt.

12:53And I think it does show you, you know, in a way where the puck is headed, because I did this the other day. I was doing an analysis for my e-com brand and I had it just build me a full P &L. I was like, hey, build a P &L and then walk me through if I increase my ad spend to this, if the ROAS decreased to this, what would my EBITDA be at the end of this month? And then it basically, it spit out the answer and I was like, give me that in a table. And it just formatted a perfect P &L for me. And I was like, this is incredible. This is so much better than talking to my actual team about these things.

13:29Why? Because it's first it's midnight and I'm asking this robot this question and nobody's nobody in my team is willing to work right now. Second, it can take some pretty complicated logic and it can even tell me like I was like, what what inputs do I need to give you for you to give me a great P &L here? And it was like, tell me this, this, this and this. I went and told it this, this, this and this. And I was able to do the job. And I was like, this is a really. I mean, you really got to make a point to just pin this tab open and be like, all right, I'm going to not Google things. I'm going to go to chat GPT first for like a week just to see how good this is and how this is, you know, where, where it's strong, where it's weak and what's possible here.

14:07That's what that's not really possible in other ways. Over the weekend, I was going back and forth to my accountant and I was like, no, I think we could actually save money if we do this, this, and this. My, my friend was telling me how they do it. I'll go and try and find the exact part on the IRS website where it says that that is or is not true. And my accountant was like, well, I've never even heard of this. So let me know if you can find it. And so I went to the IRS website and it's just a huge... It's just massive, massive amounts of data. And I eventually had to find it. But I was like, man, I just want to teach this machine.

14:38Just give them this entire 20 ,000-page book on the IRS. and then like go and study all my like income and my expenses and just tell me the best way to maximize the situation. Because like, it's actually, I mean, even if my accountant's great, like there's constantly new laws and there's always new wording and everything. I just like, man, just, I just want this to do my taxes. And the scary part for some people is while it's awesome that you could say, Hey, here's a hundred dollars, make me as much money as possible. It's awesome that you could say, here's the tax code. Save me as much money as possible.

15:16You could also basically say, here's a code base. Find me all the vulnerabilities so I can hack in and steal everything. Here's a map of my city. Tell me where if I was to cause the most harm to the most people, what I could do. And that's, I think, where this gets scary. And then if you take the auto GPT, it's like, well, then would it also do some of the tasks for you that's kind of crazy too right so it's like you you get into this world where where i think it's it's easy to imagine scenarios where this is a little too powerful and uh i don't really know i mean what do you think are you scared of this and do you think that there's like uh do you worry about that side of things well so elon has this um interview coming out tonight and tomorrow with tucker carlson who's kind of a douche so who knows what we're gonna what it's going to be like but the whole the whole interview is about how scary ai is and how it's going to like take over the world and so i was scared and then dharmesh came on the pod and he was like no i wouldn't be afraid yet about this it's not that big a deal every new they say this about every new technology but after the interview just based off like a 30 second trailer that they've aired i have a feeling i will be afraid but he's pretty good at like painting certain pictures and i don't know if it's, it's entirely accurate.

16:33I also, you told the, your funny analogy was Elon was involved in open AI and then he got kicked out and it was like a kid like leaving the basketball game and bringing his basketball so no one else can play. And so I'm like, is that what's going to happen with him? So I'm not afraid yet, but I'm eager to see his interview and see what he says. But no, I'm not afraid. Are you? Yeah, I can definitely see how things are getting really crazy. Like I'll give you a silly example that's I think happening today. So you know how like grandparents are like the target of a lot of scams. Um, like people call, you know, old people and try to trick them into signing up to paying for something or giving out personal information.

17:14Um, and they'll say all kinds of things, everything from like a Nigerian Prince scam where it's like, oh yeah, your, your grandson needs money. He said he couldn't reach you. He asked me to call and he just needs like, you know,$900. Uh, can you send it to, to this account? Uh, everything from that to there's people who i know call like pretending to be direct tv and they just hey yeah you haven't paid your bill get the credit card and now you sort of scam or they'll pretend to be apple or they'll pretend to be the irs right whatever they could do and um and now there's already like examples of basically using ai like just how do you juice that up on steroids it's like, well, if I wanted to juice that up, I would call a thousand times more people.

17:59Cool. AI can now do phone calls and talk on the phone. So that's already a thing. It's useful in some ways. I invested in a company that does this for medical billing. It's like, oh, so many hours are wasted in medical offices calling the billing companies. So they just made a robot that will call on behalf of the doctor's office to the medical billing companies. And then when the billing company says, well, can you read me the patient record number? They say, yep, 925-666, whatever. And so they just save human hours by having a robot call and do those tedious calls. But that same tech can be used to call grandma.

18:33And so they use AI to do mass calling with a human voice on the other end. Even crazier, they could train the human voice to sound like somebody. So you could train it to sound like a famous person or to sound like a politician or to sound like whoever and um now you have a like a highly like like highly scalable impersonation that can uh be used for this sort of like almost like phishing attempt or or a scam attempt and so there's like i guess it's not new but it is a stronger weapon and i think that's what's scary in the same way that drones and nukes are scary in war. I think that really, really smart computers that could do things is really scary in terms of cyber crimes or the big scary one is just like, have you heard of the paperclip optimization thing?

19:33You know what this is? No, what is that? This is like the classic, like before AI was like hot right now, like when people used to research and think about AI, They had this theory. I might butcher it, but here's the summary. It's basically like the paperclip optimization problem, which is let's pretend that there was really smart, powerful AI that could do awesome things. It could cure cancer. It could do lots of things. All it takes is somebody saying, hey, we're a paperclip company. We want to maximize the paperclip production and sales. Go. And this thing would be like, awesome, great. It'll do all the low-hanging fruit first.

20:09It'll improve the website. It'll do this and that. then it'll be like, how do we do more? Well, we need to create more paperclips. Let's first take all the cars and we'll crush them and we'll turn them into paperclips. Basically, the whole world turns into paperclips. Right. Like, you know, like, oh, these humans are standing in the way of this. Like, I must optimize to this function. And it's like the wrong prompt. It's like, you know, if this HustleGPT guy didn't say, don't do anything illegal, then HustleGPT might have said, well, the best way to do this is to sell drugs. And like, it would have done it.

20:41And so the paper clipped optimizer problem is basically the same theoretical thing. It's like any extremely powerful tool, if given the wrong optimization, could make very bad decisions on behalf of humanity because it would be trying to do exactly what you told it to. So it's like this thought experiment that's been around for a long time. You know how sometimes we'll go to conferences or these, quote, parlor dinners where it's eight people around a topic and someone's leading. And for the past two years or four years, it was like, so how are your companies going to embrace crypto or Web3? And what are you guys doing?

21:26And I remember being part of those conversations and I'm like, nothing. And I think if you do do this, you're an idiot. And this is one of the only times where someone has brought this up. and I'm like, yeah, this question is actually applicable for this situation. How are you guys going to use this to get better and improve? And it's probably the only time so far that I felt, yeah, you kind of got to use it for something. Otherwise, you are actually going to get left behind. With the Web3 stuff, I was like, no, you're not getting left behind. You actually don't even pay attention to it. With this stuff, I actually do believe that should be true.

21:58Yeah, it's sort of like there are many things that happen that you don't have to participate in. And then every once in a while, there's a wave that if you don't participate in, you know, like personal computers, the internet, mobile phones, like, you know, if you didn't account for those waves, you did get left behind. Whereas other things, like let's say the cloud or I don't know, you know, up till now, machine learning, like these are nice. You could build companies around them. You could add them to your company, but you don't have to, you know, like video or social networking or whatever.

22:32Like those are things that you could do without, you could do with or do without. This seems like something you're not really going to be able to do without in the same way that like, if you're a company that doesn't use the internet, like plumbers have to use the internet if they want to be like viable plumbers now. So it's like, you know, it doesn't matter what you do. The internet didn't leave anything untouched. It shifted everything. Cell phones kind of did the same thing. You know, computers in general before that did this, did this. and it does seem like this is the sort of the new one, which is if you don't add intelligence, like, you know, you're basically competing with both arms tied behind your back compared to somebody else who will.

23:12Yeah, no, I agree that this is actually one thing that's important. Last month, I went to San Francisco for a quick trip and I was only there for a day or two and I met up with this guy named Brett Adcock. Have I told you about Brett? Dude, have you stopped telling me about Brett? I feel like you've said, have I told you about Brett Adcock 16 times on the show? have i yeah bro you love this guy uh he started a flying car company took it public via spec and now he's building robots all right well i know this story and we all know this story i went to the robot factory or whatever you call it it's the robot factory i mean it sounds like a like a new age like a chinese food company or something like i went to the robot factory and i went and checked it out it was amazing so he basically in sunnyvale he's got like 50 000 square feet and it's just 60 folks who work there and i went and talked to each person i was like what did you do and they're like oh i helped build the cybertruck i helped uh build this part of tesla or i worked at boston dynamics whatever like these like the smartest of the smart guys and they're building these machines and they're basically they look like a robocop kind of and they're and these machines are like they can walk around and grab stuff off a shelf and pack like you know a t-shirt or whatever into a box and i said didn't he just start this how is it already like how does he already have robots that are working i feel like he just started this like a like last year right he just moved fast so basically uh the recap is he started vetery which eventually bought this company called hired and so now it's called hired it's like a recruiting company sold that for 100 million after he sold it, he went back to University of Florida and he took classes in like, he had already studied like mechanical engineering, but he took classes in like how to build planes.

24:57I don't know what that class would be called, but classes on that. And he built this company called Archer. And Archer was, it's basically unmanned helicopters is like what it looks like. And they got a big contract through United Airlines and they're building these helicopters, took it public, multiple billion dollars. Then he took all of his money. And when he says all, He says, I basically, I bought a house in Palo Alto. And then I have like six months of savings. And then the rest, I put all into Figure, which is the new robot company. And so he went and he went and hired 60 people. He financed it.

25:30And then eventually, he just recently raised a round of funding. But for a while, he was just financing it. And he goes, I'm going all in. He goes, you know, our friend Ramon, he goes, all in, bro. That's like his phrase. He goes, we go all in, bro. And that's what Brett did. And so I'm walking around this factory. And it's like these robots. He's like, check this out. We're working on the finger. He goes, we studied how the human body works. And the way the tendons work, it pulls in this direction. So watch this. If you just pull the tendon here, the finger moves. And it's just crazy fascinating.

25:58And I started talking to him about it. And it's a really interesting business model. Basically, these robots can work for 20 hours a day. And he will bill them out or give them to a Walmart, let's say. And they'll pay the robot 30 % of what they're paying a worker. except the robot can work now 20 hours a day and then charges for four hours. Super fascinating. And I was like, Brett, how big is this going to get? He was like, well, it's either going to go bankrupt or it'll be a trillion dollar company. But I think I'm going to build the biggest company in the world. And when I heard just that audacity, I was just like, I just got a little semi just talking to him.

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26:32I was just super into it. Did you let out a small female gasp? Yeah. If you would have saw me standing up, my heel kind of popped up. You know, it was like when you kiss a girl and she's in her heels and pops up. What's that called, by the way? That thing's amazing. What a thing that is. He just happened to have a fan there that was blowing my hair. It was a romantic time. You know, we got romantic real fast. But it was really fascinating because he actually said something that kind of changed my perspective. I was like, Brett, like software is way easier. Just like, why not do that? He's like, actually, I think software is harder.

27:09When I was building Vetteri, we basically had to code stuff and invent stuff. But with physics and hardware, I'm just working within the laws of physics. And I know what the laws are. And if I can get creative and create solutions within these laws, I already know that people are going to buy this thing. So that part's actually way easier to me than creating software where it's basically a blank canvas and I can make anything I want. With this, it has really strict constraints. And it changed my opinion on things. It was super fascinating. You have to go down there and check it out. Yeah, that sounds pretty sick.

27:42I'm surprised it's that far ahead. Because I know Boston Dynamics and even Tesla with its Tesla robot. Boston Dynamics has been going for, I don't know, 10 plus years. And they have this weird dog robot that can do parkour or something. They have a crazy looking robot. But I don't think it's that functional yet. It's not like replacing warehouse work yet. in a real way. Well, he explained that to me. So everyone knows Boston Dynamics. You've seen viral videos of Ehrlich Bachman kicking the deer, the robot deer, and it comes back at him. He said that, I was like, Brett, who's your competition? Boston Dynamics?

28:24And he was like, no, because they are a research company. And so their DNA is not to build stuff that people want to buy. It's just to push the envelope. And it's almost like a nonprofit in a way. I think now it's owned by like Kia or Hyundai or something like that. uh so eventually we'll become more like capitalistic but he's like they were just making stuff and pushing the envelope and then companies like us who want to build stuff for commercial uses uh like there's not that many use cases there's not many other companies doing something just like this and so that was how we explained the difference between boston dynamics and him there's a uh video that's amazing that you should watch it's the amazon warehouse like amazon warehouse robots and i don't know if you've seen this but they're basically like they almost look like you know back in the day in pe you would get this like it's not a skateboard because it's a square it's like it's like a square version of a skateboard that you can like sit on like a knee board i think they called it yeah so something that looks like that basically it's a flat like square with four wheels on it and i don't know if you've seen these videos of the amazon warehouse but there's thousands of these and what they do is they drive around so an order comes in and they're like all right cool this this person over here needs to pack an order or they're packing the next 10 orders.

29:35Those 10 orders need these bins. So they go, they drive, they pick up, they go under the rack with the bins. They pick it up and it's like elevated like two inches off the ground. And then they drive this huge rack of bins to the human. So the human doesn't have to move. They're sitting in their chair and they just pick the items, put them in a box and then the robot takes it away. And all these robots, they don't crash into each other because they're all like synced to one brain basically. One brain is driving all of them at once. And so they never bump into each other and they all just go and they lift these huge racks and bring them to the person because otherwise if you've ever been to a warehouse like normally it's like you get a ticket you get an order i've done this i packed thousands of orders myself like you're like all right i gotta go get something from bin 308 it's down in the far left corner then i gotta walk to bin 102 because they ordered these two items and then i'm gonna try to do maybe two or three orders however many i can carry with my little uh tray here back to my pack my packing station at the end and then i'll pack all those orders and so it's so much faster just due to these automations and you could definitely tell how all kind of like industrial and manufacturing work is going to get automated just it's just a matter of when and the companies that do that are going to be very big companies you uh recently bought a cadillac and cadillac has really great or they're supposed to have great self-driving have you been using it no you don't you don't use the self-driving i don't think ours even i don't think ours even has anything like self-driving oh really man i uh we just got a Tesla and I before that I was using my friend's Tesla the self-driving stuff is awesome man it totally has changed me and so like I'm seeing like some of these like now I'm a believer before I was you know kind of archaic I'm a believer on a lot of these things now I had to use it for a week to actually understand I'm shocked you don't have that though yeah it didn't come with my car for whatever reason but um yeah I I had a terrible Tesla experience but I don't know I think I I rented like a four-year-old Tesla.

31:26So it just sucked for whatever reason. Well, that's my very quick story on Brett. We have, you have to go and see this guy. Like, it's so much cooler to see. It's just, it feels so much more rewarding to work on some of these products because A, it has like a very real world application. And then also like you're, it almost feels like a bunch of friends just sitting around and they're like, oh my God, we just got the need to like kick forward. Like, you know, it feels like a, do you remember those those TV shows when we were kids where it was robot wars, it was like robots. And that's basically what it was.

31:58It felt like that in real life where they were just like tinkering on these robots and like, all right, we have it set up. Let's see if we can get the foot to move. And it just seems so much more fun than looking at a computer screen and just coding all day. So it's really fascinating. You got to go down to his warehouse and see it. Yeah. I look forward to three episodes from now when you ask me, have I ever heard of Brett Edcock again? It's going to be great. Yeah. Do you know I used to sell hot dogs?

32:23we uh we're supposed to tell you to go there's a story behind all this let me just quickly tell you you're supposed to go to mfmpod.com slash webby webby is w-e-b-b-y mfmpod by the way there's not an ad there's not an ad this is war this is war there's a small small tiny war going on and we need your help so to be clear we don't care about the webbies we got nominated for a webbie on the webbies there's webbies is like an internet oscars right it's like an internet grammys but it's not basically that's a little bit much because it's not like generous it's not yeah that's what they're trying to be all right that's what they're trying to be that's generous and so you can have a website a podcast so if you go in the podcast in the biz is it the business category?

33:12What category are we in? Their website's quite challenging to work, by the way. It's hard to make work. But yeah, we're in the business podcast category. But if you go to mfmpod.com slash Webby, you're going to get redirected to the right link. So the story of this is basically HubSpot submitted our pod to this Webby Award. Normally, this isn't something that we would do because it costs money to submit. And I think there's even like a dinner in New York, which I don't really want to go to. But here's the story there's this woman named kara swisher kara swisher is this popular journalist uh she started recode i think it was called and she has got a big podcast called pivot she's just like an elite like kind of like who's who of like our little tech techie journal in silicon valley she's super well known for like i don't know 20 years 30 years who knows how long she's been doing this uh as sean would say she's kind of like she's the jake paul of journalism no no taylor lorenz is the jake falls of journalism i like i actually like her so she's she's all right but i agree by the way i she came for us she came for our neck she came for our neck so but what happened was she tweeted out i hate starting a story with she tweeted out because i i immediately think of all the mobster movies that like i just watched this mobster movies of these guys like killing each other and i'm like i'm starting a beef by saying like she tweeted you know like Like, it's just like, tweet it out.

34:38She said, let's just say she said. Here's what she said to our face. And what did she say? Do you know what she said? It was something like, she tweeted out a link to the Webby's. We didn't even know we were, me and you didn't even know we were up for Webby. But there's like four podcasts that are up for it. One is her podcast. One is our podcast. And she goes, there's no way, something like this. There's no way I'm going to lose. We can, like, for God's sake, we can't lose to a podcast called My First Million. Like, you know, just like these tech bros, these money bros. And you know what happened?

35:10The voting just swung even further in our favor when she did that. And Sam declared war instantly because Sam's just literally walking around looking for a fight. I don't know if most people know this. Like Sam's walking around just hoping to get disrespected just to unleash a cannibal bass. And so you tweeted back. I mean, you said back to her face. What did you say? I think I said, I think I said some, I think she said, there's some podcast called My First Million that we're up against and there's no way we're going to lose or something like that. And I think I said, there's some lady who has a podcast that just disrespected us or something like that.

35:48Like, you know, if you listen to MFM, don't vote for us. Vote against this snobbish elitism of people who love to smell their own farts. I think that's what I said. and so that's where we're at there's a war we went from 80 chance of victory we had 80 of the votes then she came on this campaign and uh and and said we can't lose these guys started to started to go down a little bit i think right now we're about to lose the webby and you know i don't want to win the webby don't care about winning but i definitely care about losing and so i do not want to lose the Webby. So now we need your help.

36:26Go to MFMPod.com slash Webby. And yeah, you know, just just write a wrong. Are you going to write a wrong? Yeah, don't vote for us. Vote against like people who think they're better than you, which is, you know, her. And by insulting us. And if you're listening to this, she's insulting you indirectly. And so are you going to take that? What we're going to do is when we win, Sean, we're going to get like an award. I think it's an award. I'm going to keep it in the box and I'm going to put it in a bigger box and I'm going to mail it to Vox, which is who has her podcast. Right. It's like part of the...

36:57We don't... We're not putting this webby up on our wall. I'm not even going to open it. We're putting this in her face. Yeah. So we will mail this webby to her because she wanted it so badly. And she will own the webby that says My First Mail hand on it. And... That's what's going to happen. If they invite us to the event to do this, I am 100 % going to ask her to be my date, my plus one. Her plus one. I would love it. I can't go. Sam's going to take her. That's how we're going to do this. If we're allowed to have plus ones, I'm going to ask Kara if she'll accompany me, and we'll hang out. So anyway, do that.

37:32MFMPod.com slash Webby. You'll go straight to the thing, and you guys will see it. It's pretty funny. We had to take her to Petticourt. We didn't start this war, but we will finish it. Do you know this guy named Brian Davis? Brian Davis. Sounds pretty generic name. No, I don't know that name, though. He's a former Duke basketball player, you know, in the 90s. I think it was in the 90s. Oh, OK. Yeah. So something just happened. And it's pretty funny. It happened this morning, I think. And it hasn't played out yet. But it's actually it. I think it's a PR or marketing stunt that might be hilarious or it's a scam.

38:09It's one of the one of the two. But basically, you know, I'm not a sports guy. So so I might get a lot of this wrong here. But Dan Snyder owns, what's it called? The Washington Commanders, formerly the Chiefs, right? Or the Redskins. Yeah, see, I'm already butchering it. But basically, I think he has to sell it, right? Or it's for sale. This guy named Brian Davis. He's a black guy. And so it was in the news because it was saying, this guy offered to buy the team. And he said, I'm willing to give you a billion dollars in cash in the next 24 hours. And then the next seven days, I'll give you the remaining$6 billion.

38:46and I've got proof of funds and all this. And it's a big deal because he's black and so it'd be the first black owner. But I started doing some research on his company. Well, it's also a billion over. So six billion is the offer they had agreed to. He came in over the top, said, I'll give you seven billion. And people are like, is he good for this? Where is he going to get seven billion dollars? He's like, I'll give you a billion dollars within 24 hours of the deal being approved and then the rest in seven days. Yeah, so it's like a crazy thing that he's saying. And I started doing some research on his background.

39:14And so he has this company called Urban Echo Energy, which is a developer of renewable energy assets. Basically, you know, remember like LEED, LEED certified buildings? It was like, you're like green. So I don't even think he, I don't know if he makes the buildings or if he goes in there and like contracts out and like determines, yes, you guys are certified. But his company is called Urban Echo Energy. And he said that he was telling people when he was raising money for this purchase that it's worth$50 billion. And when I hear all these numbers, if you don't know anything about business, you hear this, you're like, wow, Brian, you're killing it.

39:50I think this is 100 % fake. A complete, it's either a scam or a marketing ploy. I don't know which one it is. This won't go through. But the fact that we're talking about Brian Davis and there's all these articles going out there, like how cool is it that this may be the first black-owned NFL team, yada, yada, yada. It's all fake, I think. And it's happening right now. And so I'm very eager to see how this unfolds. But it's, and so I'm like, well, it's him and Christian Leitner. They, they do a lot of real estate, like development in that like Durham area. I think they've been partners for a long time.

40:26Yeah. So, and he's, I think he's had multiple attempts to buy teams, it looks like. So he's, he tried to buy like a soccer team for 33 million, tried to buy the Memphis Grizzlies for 252 million. And so, yeah, I don't really understand this, But what I thought was funny about this... It does not smell right. It does not smell like this, that they would have$7 billion to offer for this, whether it's their own or even the ability to raise that much money. But what I thought was interesting, and I started thinking about this, I'm like, what a brilliant marketing plan just to make an offer that's just absolutely ridiculous.

40:59And it makes the news just for being ridiculous. Could potentially be a great way to get your name out. Because now we're talking about this guy. No one's talked about this guy in a while. uh like i said kanya running for president yeah it's like this is like the last time that i heard about this guy i think was from that like everyone hates christian leitner documentary series um but like no one talks about this guy and i don't know what i'd be curious is what goes in to making an offer for some of these multi-billion dollar things whether it's a company a sports team piece of art a house and this can you just become that troll and just you make it in the news and And you start doing marketing just as the guy who makes offers.

41:38And I just thought, is the barrier to entry that low on making an offer? How does that work? Dude, we could do it right now. Open up Microsoft Word and let's tender an offer for$8 billion. And let's see what happens. Sam and Sean have tendered an offer for$8 billion. We're going to send you 10 in cash now. You send two back. That's how flush we are. so long as everything you know plays out in due diligence as long as we don't see anything sketchy we're in right it's contingent on due diligence including us diligencing our own finances when we find out we don't have it then we're out well because with hampton i'm like all right we need backlinks so we rank and i'm like what's a good way to get backlinks fast and i saw this and i'm like wow all these news sites are covering him that's it i just found my strategy i just have to make a ridiculous offer but i thought this was hilarious that this guy was actually like Like people were taking it seriously on Twitter.

42:33People are like people who aren't in the business world. We're taking it very seriously. And he's getting links from all these news sites saying like NFL may have its first ever black owner. But they don't think like, wait a minute. Let's go. Like, where's this money coming from? Who is this guy? Right. Yeah, that's that's crazy. I wanted to talk about this thing that I noticed happening. And then I saw an article that branded this in a really interesting way. Did we talk about this already? the podcast kayfabe do we already talk about this you mentioned it once what is it so there's a there's this concept that i heard that i like but it's doesn't need to sound as fancy as it is called kayfabe and it's basically like if you did you ever watch wrestling growing up like like the rock and stone cold yeah yeah obviously there's only one answer to that question it's hell yeah stone cold says so yeah of course so in wrestling like the whole premise of wrestling is that there's these like manufactured storylines right so manufactured alliances manufactured rivalries beefs oh he he hit his manager and he kissed his girlfriend and you know that's why we need to fight right and so the creation and and maintenance of these storylines is called kayfabe It's basically like, I don't know why it needed its own K-A-Y-F-A-B-E.

43:53And I don't know why it needed its own word. It's also could just be called like acting or storylines. But it's basically saying like, you know, let's pull up the exact definition. But it's basically the fact or convention of presenting stage performances as genuine or authentic. So it's basically take a stage performance, make it genuine or authentic. This is happening all the time on TikTok right now. And I find it very, very interesting. So if you go on TikTok, you'll often see somebody like there. It used to be this, like I'm holding up my phone and I'm talking to my phone. And let's say I'm giving advice.

44:28I could say, you know, the thing you got to do about blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, that's cool. But how can we make that seem a little more? How can we make myself seem more authoritative? Well, one thing people are doing is they're buying this mic and they're just putting it on their desk. And then they're looking to the side like they're talking to someone else. and there's no podcast there's no others there's no someone else there's no podcast they simply bought a podcast so podcast microphone sales are going up because people want on tiktok to look like a thought leader it's like a podcast is a new like talk and the way that you make the ted talk look legit you know so so why can i give this advice or say this thing so i saw these two women doing this and it's like all a joke though it's like women giving it's like they call it the alpha female.

45:14And it's like, you know, apparently there was this guy who was like, look, and he was actually being serious. He goes, look, if you're 25 and you can't afford a Lamborghini yet, you're doing it wrong. And I think it's just ridiculous how wrong you are. If you can't, you're just lazy. And so these two women now have the alpha female and they're just like giving horrible advice, you know, back and forth. And so many people have been taking them seriously and it's 100 % fake. Yeah, this is exactly what's going on. And there's a whole bunch of different versions of this. So there's um another popular thing you see on tiktok is somebody like just doing their kind of morning routine or their night routine like their skincare routine they're like kind of brushing on makeup while they're talking or they're like you know like doing the like thing where they're wiping off makeup and then they're like washing their face while recording this it's like oh so vulnerable girl next door like you know so authentic just uh and it's like no she put the camera there, clicked record, and then started doing this to make it like, look like I'm not trying.

46:13I'm just, I'm just going through my nightly routine. I'm just talking off the top of my head here, but it comes across as not like somebody kind of marketing to you or, um, sort of like presenting to you, but like you're being let in. And I find this so fascinating that people are doing this and you see this everywhere. And it's like the opposite of Instagram in a way, like for Instagram, the meta of that was like, go do the thing where you rent the private jet for 30 minutes on the runway and take the photos or like, you know, go hold the bag and take the photo and then go return it at Louis Vuitton or whatever, right?

46:50Like people would fake status doing that. And in TikTok, they fake status doing a completely different thing. Sometimes it's like with this podcast thing. Sometimes it's with like pretending to be just doing their chores and talking or whatever it is and i find this really really really interesting because it's like it's effective it's like low-key very like sneaky what's going on and um and it tells you a lot about how how people work that this actually works you know it's like reveals a lot about psychology that this that this actually works so what's an example of one uh well i just gave you two right like that yeah give me another one for example um another one would be what so another one would be like the podcaster ones what are they saying are they giving like money advice so one of the podcast ones for example so yeah some of our business advice but one of them was this girl promoting her only fans so what she was doing was she goes viral because she's on a podcast as she says like a fake she's a fake guest she's a fake guest and she goes i yeah this whatever earmuffs for the kids in the car if you're if you're there but um you know i make my man six times a day once in the morning once and she says this thing and then the comments go nuts on tiktok like like women hate it guys love it but the comment section goes nuts because she said this kind of outrageous thing and somebody was like hey anybody got a link to the full podcast maybe this was taken out of context there is no full podcast oh my it's just this girl saying something that's going to get her a bunch of like traffic on TikTok because then you click her profile and you go to her OnlyFans and you subscribe.

48:28And that's all she was trying to do is promote her OnlyFans this way. And I thought, wow, like this, like five years ago, I couldn't even like, if I told you the story, but like, what is TikTok? Why would anybody fake being on a podcast, being on a podcast is like the dorkiest thing of all time. And what is OnlyFans? But this person is probably making, I don't know, 50k a month on their OnlyVans. And this is their main marketing strategy. And that's one of the things I love and hate about marketing is that marketing is this never-ending game that's always changing. There's always a new metagame to be playing.

49:03And the winners of it get really, really rich. But it's also exhausting because you got to stay up on the latest thing. And it also shows you when you have a marketing thing that's working, like juice it because it's not going to work for forever and uh the game will the game will shift so when you have it working don't take that lightly dude i remember as a kid growing up in missouri there was basically zach zach was the cool guy in my class he was my friend and he was cool because when we were 14 you could kind of see that he had abs and it was like oh man zach's got abs and zach like cuts his hair cool and he wears one of those like puka shell like necklaces that's cool oh he's got vans on too like that's so sick zach's awesome i want to be like zach and then a step above that was like blink 182 it was like oh man blink 182 like there's these guys in like southern california and all they do is skateboard and surf and eat corn dogs and play music like how cool is that and i remember being a kid and meeting someone inappropriate things and they wear hurley like what is hurley and i remember like it was basically like three inspirations of like it was like zach blink 182 and like you know tony hawk basically was like the people who i thought were cool and uh i remember even meeting someone i lived in missouri i met someone from california i'd never been like at that time i never basically been to florida and missouri i met a guy from california and i'm like do you know some 41 like are you friends with them like how's that work like you know i just thought that like this was this other world and i would if they were wearing vans and like high white socks i would like ask for a picture if they had long hair i would ask for a picture i'm like it's like i'm meeting an alien like you are famous just because you live in california my fear is for my future kids them growing up this like sphere of influence has just gotten incredibly small because instead of like the mediocre zach of the world there's now like i am now comparing myself to the thousand hot kids who i'm flipping through on the top 0.1 % zacks of every town of every town it's right now i see them yeah yeah there was a clear separation of there's zach and then there's blank 182 and i can never be a blank 182 but i could probably be a zach and that's pretty cool now i just see all these hot people on there they all can dance they're all funny their teeth is perfect in actuality they're probably 20 the same thing as like movies they're probably 25 year olds who like i think that they're only 17 uh you know like how like you'd have like totally like lindsey lohan was playing he's like dude you're like 26 and have fake boobs how are you going to be playing the 16 year old right you know what i mean like it's like that same thing and i and i'm like i've scrolled through tiktok and i'm like if you're 16 right now this is the worst thing on earth because you are comparing yourself to the 0.1 percent of the whole country not just like the big man on campus the one big man on campus you know who you kind of have a shot of becoming dude that is so that is so true that is so true that resonates so much with me i had the same thing you know sixth grade seventh grade whatever casey prisman coolest kid on coolest kid i knew like if you said what is the peak of what cool could be casey prisman like uh you know he was cool because he had the nikes he french kissed a girl once and I was like, holy shit.

52:20I remember going home and being like, wow, I'm so far behind the world right now. And that's how – but he was the cool kid. He was the only one to compare to. You're right. Now, if I go on TikTok, I'm 35 years old now. And if I go on TikTok, TikTok can make you feel very small. So can Instagram. These social networks can make you feel very small because, oh, you think you're funny? Here's somebody being fucking hilarious. You think you're cute? Here's someone gorgeous. you think you're talented watch this dance right like and that's swipe swipe swipe better than me better than me better than me happier than me more fulfilled than me richer than me whatever it is right like whatever your insecurity is the algorithm's like well i swipe to it now and i'm like someone will just be like doing a selfie i'm like wow look at their countertops like that's a huge kitchen like or like they'll be doing a thing in a car and i'm like wait does that headrest say Ferrari?

53:16How is this guy have a Ferrari? You know what I mean? It's just like it's consumerism times a thousand of what we are used to. You know what I mean? Before, it was like only if I went to the mall, I would see hot naked Abercrombie dudes where they're on the ads. Now, it's just like every single time and it's the best of the best constantly and it freaks me out. Yeah, exactly. You could feel like a tiny little amoeba compared to this universe of awesome people doing awesome things, living these awesome, perfect lives. And that's like a WMD for the ego, especially like a teenage ego. I can't even imagine that.

53:58Yeah, that's pretty scary. No, I was thinking about that because I've got friends that have 12-year-olds and they'll tell me stories about how they're sad and shit. And I'm like, yeah, I can see that. This is horrible. This is absolutely horrible because like before when I was a kid, there was just, there was like, if there's like, if Blink-182 was a 10 and I know I can never become that, but then Zach's like the four and I'm a two. So it's like, all right, I can close that gap. Maybe if I do enough sit-ups. Now it's just nine, nine, nine, nine, nine. Everyone's a nine. And I don't know how anyone can compete with that.

54:31And so I'm freaked out about that a little bit. Whenever I go through TikTok, I just, you're better than me. You're better than me. You're better than me. It's just constantly that. They need to rename the For You page to the better than you page. Yeah, or just fuck you.

54:47It's still F you, but now it's fuck you.

54:55That's amazing. That's it. That's the end of the pod. All right. Before we go, ladies and gentlemen, we got a little celebration. And I say ladies and gentlemen because I'm talking about the gentleman's agreement and the ladies understanding. We have hit 200 ,000 subscribers on YouTube. Sam and I promised that we would kiss mouth to mouth at a million. We do intend to renege on that as soon as it happens. But if you want to see us have to renege on that agreement, we will. We will do it when we get there. But Sam, 200K, that's pretty awesome. People should go and do what to get us to 300K? Yes.

55:32The reason why it got to 200K, aside from us being good at this, I think, is we started this at 110, 120, I forget. And we came up with this thing called the Gentleman's Agreement, which basically means all the content on YouTube is free, except there's one channel, which is the channel you're watching right now. It's not free. And it's called the Gentleman's Agreement because we can't be there to make sure that you pay your debt. You just have to do it. If it's a ladies understanding, ladies understanding the Gentleman's Agreement, which means you now owe us because this content is not free. And the way that you pay your debt is you have to click subscribe on YouTube.

56:06That's it. It's that easy. We're working for you, but you owe us. And so you have to pay your debt and just click subscribe. And that is the gentleman's agreement, the lady's understanding. And so far, it's been very effective. Clearly, everyone has done it. Go to YouTube, type in My First Million, click subscribe, turn on notifications. You know, the pod is much better on YouTube. You should just start listening to it. Oh, and we have to give out our premium. I don't know if you saw, but last time we did this, we did a hilarious thing where we said, use the word premium in your comment and we will give YouTube premium to one person.

56:40So let's do that now. Let's pull up, uh, let's pull up somebody here and we will give them YouTube premium. Um, right now. I, I, I think we should do this every episode. It's going to be a little costly, but, uh, but I think we got to do it. Um, all right. So I'm on the acquired one. I'm just gonna read you a couple of these. this was a premium episode gents keep it up somebody goes this show had I don't know I must say some premium insights guys great episode somebody just kept spelling the word premium over and over again simply premium content premium episode even more premium guests keep it up guys have a premium Easter I think we got to give it to this guy who wished us a premium who's that person his name is famous Astologu.

57:31So I'm going to comment on here that he should slide into our DMs. We will pay for this guy's YouTube premium. And in this episode, we'll do the same. In the comments, whoever comes up with the funniest use of premium will get free YouTube premium so you can listen ad-free and you can lock your phone and listen to this in the background. And that's it. That's the episode.

58:12All right, this episode is brought to you by Mercury. They are the finance platform of choice for over 200 ,000 companies. Shouldn't be surprised because I use it myself for not one, not two, but I have eight different Mercury accounts. I have seven for different companies that I'm a part of, and then I have my own personal account because now they have personal banking, which is a really cool feature. I highly, highly recommend it. Like I said, I use it myself. And the reason why is because the way that Mercury works is beautiful. It's very intuitive. And you could tell that it's actually made by a startup founder.

58:39It's an entrepreneur. You could tell it's made by somebody who used other banking products in the past and didn't like all the different rough edges and annoyances and decided to actually fix it himself. And really any type of entrepreneur you are, let's say you're an agency. Well, one of the things every agency has to do is be able to send invoices, easily create them, send them to customers and stay current on your balances with all your customers. Well, you can do that inside Mercury. And so I think that Mercury is great. Highly recommend you check it out. And thank you for sponsoring the show.

59:05For more information, check out mercury.com. Mercury is a financial technology company, not a bank. Check show notes for details.

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Show Notes:
(06:10) - AI Idea Self-Finishing To-Do List
(25:20) - Brett Adcock and the Robot Factory
(35:40) - Webby Awards and Sam's Beef with Kara Swisher
(39:40) - Brian Davis and The Commanders
(44:00) - Podcast Kayfabe
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Past guests on My First Million include Rob Dyrdek, Hasan Minhaj, Balaji Srinivasan, Jake Paul, Dr. Andrew Huberman, Gary Vee, Lance Armstrong, Sophia Amoruso, Ariel Helwani, Ramit Sethi, Stanley Druckenmiller, Peter Diamandis, Dharmesh Shah, Brian Halligan, Marc Lore, Jason Calacanis, Andrew Wilkinson, Julian Shapiro, Kat Cole, Codie Sanchez, Nader Al-Naji, Steph Smith, Trung Phan, Nick Huber, Anthony Pompliano, Ben Askren, Ramon Van Meer, Brianne Kimmel, Andrew Gazdecki, Scott Belsky, Moiz Ali, Dan Held, Elaine Zelby, Michael Saylor, Ryan Begelman, Jack Butcher, Reed Duchscher, Tai Lopez, Harley Finkelstein, Alexa von Tobel, Noah Kagan, Nick Bare, Greg Isenberg, James Altucher, Randy Hetrick and more.
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* #169 - How One Man Started 5, Billion Dollar Companies, Dan Gilbert's Empire, & Talking With Warren Buffett
• ​​​​#218 - Why You Should Take a Think Week Like Bill Gates
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