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24:24And so they started doing this, you know, schools all around the world. And so isn't this crazy that this little business, putting your cell phone in a pouch is now this$300 million juggernaut. Like how cool is that? It's for one, like I would have thought this would never in a million years work. Now it seems obvious, but back then I like, it's one of these ideas where it's like, dude, maybe you should go get a job and not fool around with sewing these bags. Two, have you used one? Yeah, because at comedy shows, they always make us do it. I hate it, but you know. What emotion do you feel? Rage.

24:59And anxiety. I feel rage and anxiety. Yeah, because I can't get to my phone. Extreme. Like, I remember one time when my wife was pregnant, I went to a Dave Chappelle show, and the lady handed me one, and I was like, look, lady, my wife's like three weeks pregnant. I'm not giving you my phone. And I tried to hide it and sneak by, and she ran me down. and she goes you'll be fine dude or sorry uh three weeks away from from giving birth and uh i was like i'm not i have to have my phone and she goes um and she turns sideways she goes yeah me too and she was super pregnant and she was like and she was really pregnant the lady working at the counter she goes i'm pregnant too put the phone in the bag and i was like i was like yes ma 'am uh yes ma 'am But I felt extreme anxiety, which means I need to use it more than I thought.

25:47Yeah, exactly. In my school district where I was living before, they were going to, the board, I was paying attention, they were going to vote whether they should use this. And you want to know something crazy? It lost. Most parents wanted their kids to have their phone. Yeah, yeah. There's like an argument about whether it's safety or like personal property. There's arguments against it. but I mean it seems like the market reaction is that it's working overall of obviously yeah and I just think it's such a such a simple idea also I was watching something the other day and Ed Sheeran was like I haven't had a phone for five years isn't that crazy he was like what does that mean he was just like I don't own a phone he's like when I had a phone people were just like calling me or texting me all the time or I was just using social media all the time he's like It was really hard to make music.

26:35So I just got rid of my phone. He's like, if someone needs to reach me, I have a manager that will come find me if you really got to get to me. But I haven't had a phone in five years. And I was like, wow, that might be like, you know when you read David Goggins' pull-up record? I thought the Ed Sheeran not having a phone for five years is up there with any sort of ultra race or pull-up record. Can I propose an M &M Challenge? Oh, shit. Yeah. listen, last summer we did, what did we call it? What did we do? The MFM Summer Bod Challenge. My First Muscle. I have to think of a good name for this. But the challenge is, we should pick a Saturday or Sunday or just one week we can do it.

27:16You have to go on a 12-hour walk and you can't bring your phone or have a conversation with someone. 24 hours. 24-hour phone fast. No, a 12-hour, dude, imagine things. Dude, I promise you it's not easy. I would bet so much money. Did you say a 12-hour walk? How far are you going to go? You have to be outside of the house, and your phone has to be in your bedroom or whatever. And you can't be with your wife. You've got to be by yourself. You have to be by yourself. You can't have a conversation. You can't talk to a stranger. You just have to be outside by yourself, walking around wherever you live.

27:51It doesn't matter. Just go sit in a park. But you have to be by yourself for 12 hours. I would bet my life that you can't do that. I'm not trying to kill you, Doug. but I think I could do that. I don't think you can. You would cheat. There's 100%. I believe with... Dude, you cannot go and just walk around and not have a conversation with someone without your phone for 12 hours. My kids are on my phone at least half the day because I use it to like sedate them and like subdue them like a tranquilizer dark. So my kids are already on my phone all the time. I don't have my phone with me most of the time.

28:23But a challenge accepted. I think we should do this. The phone fast. it's i think i mean 12 hours just sounds like child's play child's play to me but you know i i you can't have a conversation so you can't oh you by the way you can't use your like laptop no screen yeah no device and no conversations you gotta be but you gotta be by yourself so another as i'm scrolling tiktok late at night i see this other video of this guy who goes he went six weeks i think without looking at a screen so no computer no tv no phone Six weeks, this guy did. And he was, you know, normally you'd be like, what do people say?

29:00They're just like, oh, I felt so much better, more present. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know, but whatever. This guy had one other interesting thing, which he goes, I tested my memory before and after. And he goes, I was 50th percentile roughly in memory memorization. I'm now 99th percentile. He goes, and it's not like I practiced memory. He's like, I was just like not looking and not distracted all the time. and I've learned to be more present. And now my memory is 99th percentile. I had to write a bunch of copy. And so like basically from like after dinner, so like 9 p.m.

29:32to like midnight, I basically like you put your headphones on, you plug in and you just have to like write and get the work done. And it's a really fun way to get in the flow. And I hadn't done that in years. And it is incredible how hard it is to focus. When was the last time that you focus and you shut out all the distractions, you turned off Slack, you turned off the... It's really, really, really rare that I do that. Very rare. And when I was in college, I would do that every single night. And it was awesome. Like that's when I would do my homework or like my paper writing or whatever, like from, you know, Monday to Thursday, like 8 p.m.

30:01to 1 a.m. That was like work time. And it was a very rewarding experience to do it. What was the GPA? Dude, I swear to God, I graduated college with a 4.0. Did you really? I got a D in entrepreneurship class because I missed like a presentation. But I got virtually A's in 100 % of everything. I took college in front of a serious. That's amazing. In high school, I went to a bad school. I went to Belmont University. You never even heard of that. But in high school, I graduated with a 2.3. And then when I got to college, I was like, I'm going to take this seriously. And my nighttime work sessions were holy for me.

30:36It was like, it felt marvelous. And I never experienced that anymore. Do you ever experience that? That absolute focus? Phoneless focus? Yes. So what I started doing, and I would say my hit rate right now is maybe one out of every three days. I do this legit, like totally legit, which is I wake up and I do it first thing in the morning. So I go no input. So I don't look at my phone. I don't open up my computer. I grab a pencil and a pad and I'll do one of two things. Either I go for a walk first. So I'll take, if my dog's like up, I'll take my dog for a walk and come back and then do this. Or I'll just sit at this chair over here in this room and I just write my, it's like morning pages, right?

31:17And so I'll try to create something pre-input and I'll do different things. So it doesn't matter what I create, what I write. I stole this from Tim Ferriss. He told me something about like, he said something like a creative gym session. Just like the way you'll go to the gym. And like, you know, if I go to the gym, I don't use my phone most of the time. Like I'm off my phone for the majority of it. And you're just doing something for an hour, right? Doing that at a creative level. And so I've done it where I write jokes, like, because I learned this, this is how Seinfeld started his day for 45 years.

31:48And so I was like, okay, did that. I'll sometimes just write my food plan for the day. Like, what am I going to eat? When am I going to work out? Just kind of get that, make that front and center. Sometimes I'll write like a blog post or I'll just write, you know, stuff that I'm like thinking about, like little loose ends about each of the businesses about like, oh, you know, I should probably do that. Or, you know what? We're being stupid about the way we're doing this. Or, you know, wait, this is working. We're not doubling down on that. What? I need to have a conversation, right? And so I'll try to do that.

32:15But the biggest thing for me isn't just the focus. It's being pre-input to any Slack, Twitter, whatever, email, nothing, text. What time in the morning? Usually starts at 7. Now that school came back on, I go at 8 and do a drop-off and then ride my bike, drop them off, come back. So that's kind of cut it now where it's basically only one hour instead of the 90 minutes. Yeah. I think we should do – the MFM challenge needs to either be the walk thing or morning pages. I think that's quite helpful Alright, so in the YouTube comments settle the debate 12 hours or 24, just write 12 or 24 of a no phone, a phone fast just like people do juice cleanses they do other silent meditation retreats, whatever ours is just a phone fast and then Sam has this requirement that somewhere in that window you gotta go be by yourself what's the famous quote like?

33:12Yeah, all of your problems, all of man's problems are because he can't sit in a room by himself for 30 minutes. That's what I'm suggesting. But 12 hours. Who said that? We'll name it after them. I don't know. Abe Lincoln. Pascal. This is the new Pascal's wager. Blaze Pascal said this. So the new Pascal's wager is, can you do this? I think just sitting for 30 minutes, though, and writing on with pen with a pen and paper is probably even more beneficial. I think that like you have mentioned wanting to write a book. and in my head, I'm like, man, writing a book, that would require like three hours a day of just not talking to anyone and being zoned out.

33:52That is what is holding me or, I mean, I don't really want to write a book, but like if I were to write a book, that is what's holding me back. It's not a good idea, not can I write, it's, but that requires three hours a day of silence. And I think that that's pretty messed up that that is the reason why people can't do their best work. I met up with Tim Urban in Austin and a big fan of his blog and he was writing a book at the time and I was asking him and he goes, he just made it sound so simple. He goes, all I do, he said the same thing. I wake up and for two hours, all I do is write. I don't need a perfect day.

34:24I don't need eight hours a day. He goes, I need two hours. That's it. And in those two hours, I might write two paragraphs, two sentences or two measly pages. But if I just do that every single day for the year, it just stacks, right? You do that for 300 straight days. You've written a 600 page book. And he's like, I can just sit down and write the equivalent of two pages, right? It's not even like a book page is even smaller than like a Google Doc page. And he's like, two hours. Like, if you don't have two hours, like, then you're not serious about this. And that really stuck with me. So I started, that's, you know, part of the inspiration.

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36:04That's zero code as in the word zero and then code Q-O-D-E. Again, code is with a Q. And tell them that Sam sent you. Do you know who Robert Caro is? Yeah, what did he write? So Robert Caro, I think he originally was a journalist. And then his first big piece of writing was a three-book series on Lyndon Johnson, the president after JFK. And each book was like 800 pages. but then his big world famous bit of writing was called The Power Broker. And it was on a New York politician called Robert Moses. And Obama has since written like the foreword for the most recent edition of The Power Broker, just to give it an idea of how influential this book is.

36:49Many people regard The Power Broker as the greatest biography of all time. It doesn't matter if you're interested in Robert Moses, the guy or not. the fact that this man packed every single sentence with like the best research uh for like i think it's 1400 pages that's it's like a it's like a modern marvel that's what like that's like the clout of this book and he did like funny things like he would go to like if he's writing about a location he would go there and count the amount of people coming in and out of the location so when he wrote about it he'd be like 58 people came that day you know like he was it's like very specific.

37:24But anyway, there's a museum exhibit that I went to this past weekend where it was a whole exhibit written about or on Robert Carl writing the book, The Power Broker. And one of the main parts of the exhibit was his process for writing. And what he said that he did was he had, you know how like a lot of our parents or teachers used to have a desk calendar where it's a big calendar where it has all 30 days on a piece of paper. And so his goal was he goes, all I need to do is write 1 ,000 words every single day. They don't have to be good words. I can throw them away. But what I have to do no matter what to write this book over the next three years, 1 ,000 words every single day, and I will achieve my mission.

38:07And they have the original notepad, his calendar, in the museum exhibit. And he writes on it. He says 1 ,243 words today, 1 ,300 this many words. And he writes it, and you see a big X on it. And it's like an X on the block, and then how many words. And they showed August and it was like, he missed one because he was like, had flu or something like that. But it was like, it looked like a chain of like, you know, X's, which I think Jerry Seinfeld once referenced. And it was incredibly inspiring that greatness, this book being the great thing, which it's one of the best biographies I've ever read.

38:44But greatness comes from a very simple process of 1 ,000 words every single day. And of course, he's a genius and there's all this amazing stuff. But that was probably the cornerstone of actually going from idea to a great work was sticking to that thousand words per day. And that is a very attainable thing. It's hard to do, but that is a very bite-sized way of looking at an epic project, which I found very inspirational. I love that. There's another great one that is like that. Have you heard the Steve Martin banjo story? No, what's that? Okay, so the Steve Martin banjo. Dude, he crushes. He crushes on the banjo.

39:17So Steve Martin tells the story. I got like a coach or a teacher or tutor. and the teacher or tutor was sort of like honest with him and was like, yeah, you don't have like a ton of natural banjo talent, just so you know, right? Like he was pretty frustrated with his progress. And what he did was he zoomed out. And I just thought this is like such a powerful, simple mental trick where he just goes, all right, look, I suck today. And I'm probably going to suck tomorrow. I'm probably going to suck for the next three months and six months or whatever. He goes, but here's the thing. I really want to play the banjo.

39:49He goes, what if instead I just committed to playing the banjo for 40 years? Because if you, anybody who plays the banjo for 40 years, you can't suck. And it just took all the pressure of being good off his shoulders and let him just be like, yeah, I'm just committed. I'm just going to do this for 40 years. And of course I'll get good. Like, you know, then I don't have to have these like daily doubts or questions or hesitations or moments where I want to, you know, give up because I reset my expectations. And I love that story. And by the way, he like wins a Grammy for a song where he's playing the banjo like, you know, five or seven years later.

40:24So, you know, it obviously worked out really well. But I love that kind of 40-year mindset because it applies to basically everything. Like I felt this with like diet or fitness. It's like easy to get frustrated. I, you know, I was doing well. Then I sort of traveled. I fell off the wagon for two days or whatever. And it's like two zoom outs have helped me there. One is like, look, it took me 37 years to get in this shape. Like, it's okay if it takes a couple for me to fix it. You know what I mean? Like, it's all right. And then the zoom out being like, instead of just doubting, like, can I do it?

40:54Will it happen? It's like, so I'm just going to keep trying this for the next decade. Do I really think it's not going to happen if I just keep like giving this my all for a decade? Like, no, of course it's going to happen. Of course, I'm going to fix all these habits. I'm going to get this good workout routine. I'm going to do all the things that I know I need to do. And I think it's very helpful because most people will quit early, but they don't quit early because they're weak. They quit early because they're beating themselves up and they have the wrong expectation of how long something takes or how easy it'll be or how like, you know, whether they deserve it or not, whether it will happen for them or not.

41:24Right. Like if you knew it was going to happen when your Uber says it's nine minutes away, you don't get panicked that it's nine minutes away. You just sort of accept that it's nine minutes away. You see it coming towards you versus if you're doing some project and you have no idea if it even is going to happen. Right. Like then every day you have this sort of am I in or am I out doubts. I think that like there's like a list of people so this is like a business show so we talk about business and money a lot but There's like a list of people who I learn more from that have nothing to do with any of that And I think like a steve martin type is one of those people.

41:55I think that um when when I hear that story so like I have a a few like bad habits, which are Strengths and weaknesses one of them being I put time limits on goals So I have a milestone for where I want to be like every five years and that helps me stay focused but also I feel immense pressure of like, I have to hurry up and I got to get it. And so it's cool to hear a story like this of something where you're like, you change the frame to where I'm going to do this now for 40 years instead of five. Because if you do something for five years, that like change, I can break five years down quarterly.

42:31And then if I can break it down quarterly, I can break down monthly. If I can break down monthly, then I can break it down daily. And that is where both structure and anxiety comes into play. Well, I think I used to be like, well, which one is it? because I know the deadlines and the time constraints help me, but I know they also feel bad. And I know when I go over them or I don't have the results in time, feels bad, man, what do I do? And then the Naval quote kind of cleared it up for me, which is impatience with action, patience with results. So the 40-year story isn't, I want this to take 40 years and I'm going to spread my workout over 40 years.

43:02It's the result is inevitable over a 40-year span. Now, the day-to-day actions I'm going to be quite impatient about. I'm not going to let myself be super patient about taking steps and moving forward and trying, you know. So you have to be able to hold both those polar ideas in your head at the same time. And this is so common. Almost everything you have in life, like all the sort of best things come when you have to hold two truths that are polar opposites in your head at the same time. And so I think this is one of them. I think I heard you say that on a podcast recently. I learned that from Joe Lonsdale.

43:35I forgot what he calls it, like dialectics or something like that. I don't know. Maybe that's like Scientology. That sounds a little too philosophical, like a philosophy class stuff for me, but I think I'd prefer the Sean way. Let me read this to you because I learned this when I was researching for Joe's podcast. So he goes, I'm not by any means a philosopher, but I've worked with some talented people who are in that discipline. There's an idea of opposing truths at extremes. It's a powerful concept that I've learned to appreciate in my 20s. So he goes, my personality has sometimes been called a little intense.

44:07and when I spend a lot of time reading, discussing, or thinking about an area, I'll often appreciate why a strong viewpoint is true and come to very firm conclusions. Then later, I'm exposed to an opposite strong view and I find this countervailing view also very persuasive and I found this confusing. How could both extreme contradictory viewpoints be true? And then this great thinker, G.W. F. Hegel said, truth exists at different extremes and the actual truth is a complex interaction between the two. So like, you know, he goes, most people are sloppy thinkers and opt for a middle of the road when they're faced with two opposing extremes.

44:39That compromise is less accurate than if you had just picked one of the extreme poles that were quite persuasive. But the wisest stance will incorporate both of the opposites within itself. Do you have an example of like two opposites that you tend to buy into? The example we just gave of like patience versus impatience, like, oh, it served me so well to be impatient. And like, I don't know any successful people that consider themselves super patient. But then at the same time, you go talk to those people and they're like, yeah, I was working on this for nine years before we had a breakthrough.

45:10It's like, damn, these people take pretty long-term time horizons also. So how is it true? How can they be impatient and have a very long-term time horizon? It's because both things are true, just in slightly different ways. What's another example? Yeah, I've got a couple of them. One of them is capitalism. So I'm super pro-capitalism. I love making money. I think building businesses is great. I think a little bit everyone on their own is awesome. and then other times in my private life, I'm like, I want to be like a socialist. I just want to share with everyone. Like I feel bad that my, I don't want my cleaning lady to ever want to go without.

45:45I want to make sure that she is paid above and beyond, even if it's not what the market demands. And I get angry at capitalism. And I feel like this kind of like this polar, like one, I'm like so pro-capitalism. And two, it's like, oh man, I just want everyone to like get paid more than they do and to be wealthy and those, but you can't have both of those. Do you ever experience that? Yeah, totally. You have the sort of head and the heart differences in that way. Another one that he gives as an example that's true for me is the difference between depth and width. So it's like, do you be a generalist and you're able to kind of go pretty broad?

46:22Or do you go for depth? And it's like, well, there's no one answer. And there's obviously virtues to either path. And you want to do both, but you can't do both at the same time. It wouldn't be true. You wouldn't be sort of defying physics if you're going to try to do both those at the same time. And so you could see the value in either end of the extreme, which you probably don't want to do is the middle, where you only have a handful of subjects and you're not very deep in any of them. Here's one that I think you probably struggle with as well. I struggle with this all the time, which is creating legacy.

46:53So if I go to a museum and I see someone's name on the museum wall or someone who has a business that's lasted for 200 years, I think, I want that legacy. I want to do something great that everyone knows my name. And on the other end, nothing matters. You're going to die. You will be forgotten. And like, I would say 50 % of the time, I think this is all irrelevant. All that matters is that I hang out with my children and spend time with them because I'm going to die very soon and no one will remember me. On the other end, create something that matters. Do something that's great. You know, like, do you feel that way?

47:27I think every entrepreneur, by the way, no matter how successful they are, even like the billionaires we've had on, I bet a nice chunk of the time they think, F this, like I'm out. Also, it's like, if you go down that road and you're like, all right, you know, either none of it matters or this matters the most, you get, you're the most persuasive person you know. And so you know exactly how to convince yourself of either one of those arguments at the time that it justifies doing whatever it is that you want to do, you know? So you can't trust yourself in that way either. Yeah. It's like being hungry at the grocery store.

47:58It's like, well, I'm feeling down today. Therefore, nothing matters. Therefore, I'm going to let it burn down. Exactly. But like that, that is like the dichotomy that I face probably. I am, I am more often than not on more often than not, do I feel uncertainty around those two than I do feel certainty. By the way, can I also just give you some props? I think your Robert Caro museum visit that you did your you know these uh these clubs these housing things did you you have a crazy bag of knowledge and interest that's just like really insane to me uh like that's really i don't know inspiring and uh interesting like i just can't believe like i don't know what is your filter for what you get like interested in but the result of it fascinates me you know which is why we've been able to do whatever 700 episodes of this podcast well and by the way the the props or vice uh go both ways when I hear like you tell a story, I'm like, how did you know this?

48:55But basically what it comes down, like I tend to find something that interests me and then I'll create a semester around it. So where I'm like, this interests me, I'm going to follow my nose and I will like pretty systematically read about it from like nine to 10. And I just follow what interests me. Right now, I'm oddly interested in like beauty and art. And so I can give you an example. I live in New York City now on the Upper West Side. And I purposely moved into a building from the Gilded Age because that's my favorite era. And my neighborhood is, it's very weird. There's a little bit of the tism coming out.

49:34But I am in awe of all these buildings that were built between like 1895 and 1920. And so I've been using ChatGPT and I've been going from building to building to building. Like I'll just walk around at night and like learn about the building and ask the doorman. I'm like, tell me everything about this building. I want to know all about the architecture. I find it so fascinating. And the other day, I started watching this guy. I'm going to say this in a crude way. And if he makes it to him, I just want to say, guy, I'm sorry, but I'm going to say it this way. But do you know the Indian guy from Mean Girls?

50:05His name's Rajiv. Do you remember that? Maybe. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. First of all, I want to say I'm a huge fan of his. I'm only saying it in a crude way because this is how what most people will remember. Oh, yeah, yeah. The rapper guy. Yeah. Yes. His name's Rajiv. So R-A-J-I-V. He has a YouTube channel right now that I love. He's basically like Bob Ross, but he's been talking about pottery and calligraphy and like kind of beautiful things, things that don't typically do well on YouTube, things that are really fast or the opposite of fast. So it's not fast paced, it's very slow. And he's been talking about architecture now.

50:47That's like one of his latest things, buildings. and I realized in one of the videos that he lives down the street from where I now live. And last week or on Sunday, I was at a coffee shop and I saw him and I go, hey, are you Rajiv? I just want to let you know, I love your YouTube channel. It is so good. What are you doing? He's like, I'm just getting coffee. I was like, well, I have a seat right here. Me and my daughter are going to have a coffee. Would you like to hang out with me? So I sat within an hour with this guy and he told me all about the neighborhood and all about the beauty of like the architecture and that is like where I'll learn and like get stories is I'll just go up and like talk to him or find another person who I love and uh it's it's been a blast like following my nose of like what interests me that's hilarious that's amazing I spent an hour with this guy I have an extra baby seat here if you want to no well I had there was like I had the best seat in the house and I go do you want to sit down and just like talk and hang out with me and it's like oh great and you're leaving.

51:45And it works. You're like, no, no, no, with me.

51:50But anyway, I've been, that's usually what I do to like learn. That's usually what I do. I meet a former actor turned cultural expert at a coffee shop. That's not what you usually do, right? No, I immense myself. Like I get interested in like a topic and I'll immense myself and then I go out and I talk to people about it. So I do field trips. This was a lucky field trip, but I would do field trips all the time where it's like I'll hear about a museum doing a thing or I'll fly somewhere. That's why I like to learn. That's cool. Yeah, you should publish more of that. I think that's great. Well, that's cool.

52:23I guess I should. I never really thought of it as particularly unique. When you read a book or a topic, what do you do? Yeah, kind of a similar thing, just a little less structured, as in I think my attention span's a little shorter, meaning once the idea clicks, I get this extreme high of feeling like I just learned something cool or know something now. And then I want to go do it and I don't want to keep researching. And then also, and also it'll lead me to the next thing, which is totally unrelated. You know, like I had this whole phase on the creative process, which I was reading about Seinfeld and the banjo story and all this stuff, like super, super into that.

53:00And then it'll be like old school marketers. And then it'll be, you know, the posterior chain and like why my hamstrings are so tight. What should posture actually be? And how do I fix that? You know, like, it'll just be like random stuff like that where I'll get, you know, a similar season, but I think mine are shorter because I am less diligent about doing it. Yeah, my preferred way of doing it is if I think I'm going to be interested in a topic, I try to research like roughly three to six books on the topic and I commit to going deep on them. Because I don't want to be persuaded when it gets like, I don't, I want to make my decision in advance that I'm going to consume and study.

53:36Yeah, because otherwise you have the problem I have, which is like anytime you hit a lull where you just like are not getting like amazing feedback loop of learning new things or, you know, finding something interesting, it's easy to eject because this was a voluntary thing anyways. It wasn't like for a specific outcome or result. Whereas I think I would be better served if I did it your way where I like pre-commit the time and it's like, look, I can't do anything else during that time. I'm just going to keep wandering around here because I bet I'm giving up at the first lull, but there's still like a lot more gold to find if I just carry on, you know, if I just keep wandering for a little bit longer.

54:08And oftentimes what people tend to do is they think that researching what to research next or researching what to do next is actually productivity when it's not. Productivity is actually doing the thing. Hey, Renaissance Sam! What can I say? The Rema-sons.

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