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29:03You kind of know this thing could combust at any second. And she just had a backpack of bribes, which I think actually should be its own product from traveling moms. It's just a pre-made backpack full of like little dollar store toys that you can give out every 15 minutes to be like, all right, be occupied. Don't scream and cry and think about anything. And just unbelievable amounts of crazy candy that they never get to eat. Like a bathtub size container of cotton candy. They had a seven layer lollipop. It looked like, you know, those like, dude, someone told me they're like, we saw Sean's eating Sean's kids eating a kebab or like a hot dog or something.

29:40Except it was like, you know, when the shake builds like a 95 story like apartment for himself in Dubai, it was the shake Dubai tower of lollipops. It was incredible. Yeah, I had a bunch of people tell me about that. But anyway, what were you saying? So I would say in the meet and greet line, the most common, I would say the most common questions, I don't know what you experienced because you had your own line and I had my own line. So maybe yours was different. I got a lot of people being like, hey, whatever. Love the show. Can take a selfie. And then got one question for you. And the question, I was like, oh, this is going to be a, it's probably going to be a doozy, right?

30:17That they're, they won't, you know, they're going to, they're using their one shot on this question. And it would, the most common questions, the most obvious answers. It would be like, you know, I'm trying to decide between this or this, you know, what do you think I should do? Well, what do you want to do? I really want to do this. Well, then you should probably do that one or like, I don't know. It's like, well, if you like, do you like, do you like one more than the other? Like, do you want one more? If you did know what you wanted, what would you say? Yeah, I know you don't know what you want, but if you did know, what would you say?

30:51And they're like, B. I'm like, cool. Do B then. Right. Or it'd be like, yeah. And I, and I hate giving that answer because it's like, uh, you know, not that we're someone's hero, but don't meet your heroes because like, yeah, we just give you the most obvious, obvious answer. Or the second one is like, I'm doing this, this, and this. And I go, Oh, cool. What are the results? They'll tell me. I'm like, what were the results last year? Okay. Well just, yeah. Keep going. Sounds like it's working. Exactly. Either it's working. Don't, don't mess it up. Or sounds like it's not working. do you want to like you're asking me for investment and actually you should be asking for advice right because it's not working uh you know the same thing was like i'm doing these i got these two ideas so i got one company i do this and another company i do this and i'm really it's really hard because blah blah cool sounds like you're doing two companies uh like do you think do you think the optimal strategy is going to be to do two startups at once or one like they're like uh yeah one probably cool so which is the better business like which one do you want to do which one is working better and then they're like well no but see this one kind of feeds into this one and i'm like no it actually eats away at all of your time and mindshare it doesn't feed into anything and they're like hmm i'm like you know like elon musk can run two companies at once.

32:13He might even be able to run three. But until you have, you know, like until your palm is like, you know, a physics textbook, like, you know, until you can, unless you're built the way he's built, like it's probably not the optimal strategy for you. Like if you're in this meet and greet line, I'm just going to tell you right now, probably don't want to be CEO of three startups at once. And so the obvious answer for most of them is like, well, what if you just focused on the one that's, that you like more or is working better? Like, I think that would probably work better than trying to make both of these, these fledgling things work.

32:44And so I felt almost silly that that was the case. And what we're saying here about everyone was searching, because we met like a bunch of successful people, for example, probably one of the more successful people we met was this guy named AJ Patel, who is like 32 or 35 or something like that. And he started a dog supplement company, which whenever I hear about that, like, that's the greatest thing ever, because who knows if like the product will work. but he originally sold a portion of the company at like$200 million valuation. And then a few years later, sold it for$650 million in valuation.

33:19And he seemed pretty like Zen-like, like he kind of had his act together, but still there was some things where he was like trying to figure out what to do next. And like he had normal questions that everyone else had. And on here you had everyone searching. Yeah, actually, I want to say one last thing about that previous thing about most common, most of the common questions are the simplest answer. that's not a knock on those people what i meant is dude this game is not as complicated as we make it i have the same i do make those same mistakes and all it takes is just a third party with like a fresh set of eyes just be like well sounds like you just pick the one you want to do right or like suddenly three things try focusing on the one and it'll probably work better or like you know whatever and so i think that it's useful to almost have that be your own coach in that way and save yourself a lot of heartache because that it wasn't a knock on those individuals.

34:10It's that is the common problem. Um, is that we, we, we don't have complex problems. We have simple problems and a simple problem doesn't need a complex answer. It needs a simple answer. So that was my point there. All right. The second thing. Yeah. Everyone is searching. It didn't matter who we were hanging out with net worth zero net worth a hundred K net worth 1 million, 10 million, 100 million and the billionaire we had dinner with everybody was searching searching for meaning searching for what's next searching for what they should be doing with them their time searching for a better challenge searching for a way to to solve the problem it just felt like everyone's searching and specifically a lot of people were searching for like direction and it really made me like it really highlighted to me the value of when you know you when you have a clear direction the value of that to like to be grateful for that and find people who are good at figuring that out because i think if you stay in that searching state for too long that shit's dangerous it's like an inception it's like we can only be in the dream for an hour before we forget that it's a dream uh you know we got to do that thing where we fucking cold plunge ourselves to get back out of it wake back up it's like there is it's okay to be in a wandering mode or a searching mode or kind of a thinking mode, like, what do I want to do?

35:26But after six months, after 12 months, after 18 months, like, that shit becomes, you get lost in the sauce. And I felt like there were kind of a lot of people that were lost in the sauce. Their search was sort of, like, almost indefinite. And I think that's dangerous. That's interesting. And that's actually really scary. That's kind of a, because it's one of those things where if it goes on for too long, it gets even worse. And then, you know, you're like, you know ass deep in it and you're like oh no yeah you forget how to even start the engine it's like this car hasn't been on for a long time does the engine start and i think you're good at this i think the way i think you're really good at this the way you are very structured helps you because i think you're very like regimented you're like for the next three months i'm going to only talk to people and figure out what i want and after three months i'm gonna have a conversation with myself and shift into the next gear and because you're this is my read of it at least I don't know what goes on in your head, but my read of it is.

36:24That's exactly how I do it. Time box things. And there's an argument to be had for just wandering around and letting you can't control everything. But I think having these creative constraints, these time box constraints, helps keep you honest. Am I even learning from my wandering at this point? Or have I forgotten my head from my feet? Do I even remember what the hell I'm supposed to be doing right now? And so I think you had a period post-hustle and pre-Hampton. That was like your searching period. But it was like, I think you knew you were going to search. You knew you were going to wander and explore, which meant don't jump into something really fast, but also don't let that last forever.

37:04Is that right? Yeah, well, I'm obsessed with time. So like, even when I was 20 years old, I had this document. I think if you Google like my name and then CEO doc, you'll be able to find this spreadsheet. And I would map out, I think I had thousands of them, of all these biographies of people I read. And I would type in when they started their apprenticeship, when they got successful, and the time it took to do that. I was obsessed with time. And the reason time is important is I think that the constraint is incredibly necessary. I read this book by Robert Greene, and he talked about urgency. And that was the first time that I learned about the importance of urgency.

37:39And so that's why I'm obsessed with time. And so usually what I do is I have this thing called worry time, which is very similar to searching time. But worry time is like, here's the period that I can worry about this, these following things. So like, it could be like, you know, I'm not sure that I'll make a list of all the things going on in my life that are that are happening right now that I'm not sure about. Like, it could be like this podcast. It could be my relationship. It could be anything. And it's like, all right, on Sunday from three to eight, I'm going to worry about it. And I'm not and then I'll like set time aside to worry about it.

38:10And then I'll set it aside. Letting it bleed into every moment of every day and be this underlying worry or anxiety that just sort of like plagues you. Yeah. So it's just like, you know, like, have you ever used Headspace, the meditation app? There's this like cool thing. Yeah, I like calm too. But Andy, the guy who would narrate it, be like, all right, today we're going to do the meditation, whatever. Now the cloud is above you. Let's put all of our thoughts and feelings and worries in that cloud above us. Now let's just walk a few feet away. now we're away from the cloud. We can acknowledge that our worries are up in that cloud, but we're no longer under it.

38:45And we can go back under it when we're ready and worry about it. And so that's where I came up with worry time. And so I have worry time. And I also do the same with searching time. So it's like, all right, I'm going to search for this. And then in three months, I'm going to say, did I find it or not? No? Okay, fine. We'll give it another three months. And then once I find it, it goes, searching is done. We are no longer searching. So I actually turned off... This is just a very small example. I turned off the Twitter DMs of my Twitter handle because I would get all these interesting opportunities.

39:13But I said, Nope, we are done with opportunities. I have the opportunity, we are going to pursue that. And then at a later date, we'll open back up to pursue new opportunities, maybe but right now there's nothing new. Right. And I like we my wife and I were joking. But it's not really joking is like my rule right now is no new friends. I don't need new friends. I have the friends that I want. That is perfect. I'm not going to go out and hang out with new people. No new friends because uh you know like the searching time is done for now and we'll open it up at a later date auditions will come at a later date for new ideas and new friends dude that's great uh i love the way you said that i do a similar thing but without uh i i hate the word time i'm the opposite of you i i want to get off the concept of time altogether um but my but in reality the result is actually very very similar what i do which is i i focus on the word constraint so how can i use a constraint to my advantage.

40:06I love this because naturally I'm always constrained, right? Like I don't always have every resource at my disposal to do what I want to do, right? Let's say I'm traveling and I don't maybe have the time or the equipment to get to the gym, to do the same workout that I was doing before. Then how do I get excited about the constraint? Okay. I got this wall. I have the floor. I've got my suitcase. Ah, interesting. I can air squat the suitcase and And then I can do a push-up challenge where I'm going to do 100 push-ups in the next five minutes. And I'm going to see how far under that time I can get.

40:43And you do that, and you've used a constraint to your advantage to have a better experience. So I always have this thing, which is I'm not going hour to hour. I think time creates a lot of stress in people's lives. So I want to use constraints without the stress of time. So what I say is, all right, I'm trying to have an experience right now. What kind of experience do I want? I want a sweaty workout experience. Okay. How can I now use an experience, use a constraint to ratchet that up and make it even better? Um, right. Like, and that's how I want to do things. So I I'll do the same thing where I'll constrain myself.

41:15All right, I'm going to turn off DMS or I'm going to do no, do a no new friend season. And I'll, I'll use these words like season just to sort of time box them, but without the sort of urgency or stress of like the thing you did where you're like, how successful were these guys by 30? Dude, that would have just made me feel miserable. So I had to like tweak that a little bit for myself where I didn't want to always feel perpetually behind in life. And so my way of doing that was focus on, all right, I'm about to walk into this room. What kind of experience do I want to have and get good at choosing that?

41:49And then be like, how can I use a constraint to like level that up, to enhance that rather than feeling constrained by lacking some resources that I otherwise would want to make this happen. I think the time thing is important because you do compare yourself to others and comparing yourself to others, everyone says is bad. I actually think in some ways it's really great because you see what's possible. Just like if you're like an athlete or you're like, I want to be like this athlete, I want to be strong, but I want to be stronger than them or faster or whatever. But whenever we do these events and I meet all these amazing people, like an AJ, like a Suli, like an Andrew Wilkinson, and I hang out with them and I think I'm behind.

42:27I'm way behind. And that's dangerous. That's dangerous. That's the thing I referenced the other day when I said, there's the science of success and there's the art of fulfillment. Comparing yourself will help you in the science of success. It will motivate you. It will put a chip on your shoulder. It'll get a light of fire under your ass. But it's not going to help on the art of fulfillment side. And so what some people try to do in life is be like, let me solve the success thing first and then I'll do the happy thing after that. and I think what you do if you look at remember my back to my everyone is searching thing what ends up happening is people solve the success thing to try to throw a bunch of money at the happy thing it works to an extent but not all the way there the kind of disillusioned and they just sort of fall back on well let me just go do more success shit at least back then when I was only focused on success I felt better and I know how to do that but more than I know how to be happy and uh and so or or it's like i thought this number would give me the answer turns out i was five times that yeah it's actually it's not it's not 50 it's actually 150.

43:28somebody said i was wrong they said it's always three times more than what you got uh like people always think three times more then then i'll chill out after that i'll really move on to that next phase and i think while i don't think that's a bad path i don't think you end up in a bad spot i do think there's probably a better version of it, which is like, can I do happy and successful at the same time? Is that possible? Well, we were talking and I'm going to add them here, but it's nothing crazy. But we had dinner with Andrew. Andrew, you know, his company as of Friday, I don't know what it is today, was worth$850 million in Canadian.

44:01And I was like, we were talking about like, what's next? And or like, we were talking about like, just personal, like motivating factors. And he was like, Oh, I was motivated because I wanted to feel secure financially, because for some reason, I always felt insecure as a kid. And everything comes from issues you had as a child. And I was like, do you feel secure now? And he was like, you know what? Not really. And I'm like, wow, we're still not going to feel secure at that number. You always need more. And I couldn't decide if I felt negative about that feeling or positive. But I have realized that that might be the learning is that you don't feel secure.

44:36A lot of people don't feel secure, regardless of what they have or what they don't have like it's the it's the same feeling of it's not enough like it can get taken away i view it a little differently it's more like the security doesn't come from the money that feeling you want is it going to be is it going to change when the money changes in that in that way right like uh i feel secure now and i have one one billionth of whatever he's got right like it's like you know he why because i just view i just view it differently i have different insecurities that he's got, right? Like, but on the financial one, I'm like, as long as I still got my wits about me in my two hands, I'm always going to be fine.

45:14If I got my brains, I got my hands, I'll always be fine. So what do I care? I could lose all my money in crypto. I could lose all my money in this. This business could tank. I could say the wrong joke. I could get canceled on the podcast tomorrow. Still got my hands in my brain. All right, I'll be all right. And so it's like fitness, right? If I put you in any fitness test, I think you would feel pretty secure. I don't think I could be like, Sam, we're going to do a work. I think if you invited me over, you're like, let's do a hard workout. I'm not eating that morning. I'm like, I don't know. I got to be light on my feet.

45:50I got to do, hey, was creatine working one day? Let me take some of that. I'd be stressing out because I don't have the fitness security. Whereas I think if I invited you over for a hard workout, you'd be like, we'll see. Or even if David Goggins invited you for a hard workout. Maybe at that stage, you would feel a little bit of the lack of security. But I think for most people in most situations, you would feel pretty secure. And so I think it's everybody's chasing a feeling. They think the feeling comes from a thing. The feeling doesn't come from the thing. The feeling comes from you and comes from practicing having that feeling.

46:24And I think until people grok that, they're just not going to have the type of feelings they want of happiness and all this other shit. Speaking of which, we have a very sturdy audience. I was putting my hand around on people's backs. Take a picture. Oh, my God. Yeah, we had a whole bunch of broad backs. Dead lifters. What's going on? There is a there is a bunch of sturdy ass people. Maybe it's a Texas thing, but there is a bunch of big old boys that we're talking and women like everyone. Like there are so many strong people. I probably said at least 20 times like, you know, it's like you're awkward.

46:59The meet and greets are weird. I don't know what to say to people. so it's usually like oh I like your shirt or you look huge you're yoked but I said that so many times yeah yeah we got we have a interesting interesting demographic there's like the people that look like you the people that look like me and then there's the people that look like neither of us but it's kind of amazing how well distributed it's like a bunch of Indian dudes a bunch of really strong white guys and then like and then and then the other group which is a blend of of normal people we had so many indians and so many indians with really thick accents so i guess they just moved here do you think that we are are we popular in india because of the topic or because of you well i mean there's a lot of a lot of business topics out there they don't all have that i think you know like anything is where's chamath from what's he he's uh is he indonesian he's from sri lanka sri lanka i mean i don't know do they they probably love him too but like it was like the six million people underwater or something like that it's like very like i don't know how many of them even have access to like you know know about know about him but but yeah if he goes to but it's like the cult phenomenon him naval apology like they really really look up to to those people and though like it's like if you go to in china the most popular person was Kobe Bryant.

48:19I said, Kobe Bryant was the star of stars because of some combination of like, he's got the thing that they want, like crazy, like athleticism. Plus they piped those Laker games into China and like only Laker games for like a period of time. And so he was just an everyone in China, which is they're a black man. Yeah, exactly. And he was just like look like a God compared to them. Right. And it's like, I think you like people who are there like you. And so you feel like you could be them. And then there's people who are so unlike you that you're like, you are so different. I just, I am in awe of what you are.

48:51It's like the Bjork effect. So Bjork, you know, is from Iceland, which only has like 5 million people. And like Bjork's music sucks. But every once in a while, she would be like number one on the charts is because like everyone in Iceland would like cheer for her because she was like doing something interesting in America or like Bruno Mars. If you go to YouTube and look up Bruno Mars' videos on YouTube, they have like three and four and five billion views on youtube because everyone in the philippines because he's like filipino is like that's our guy you know what i mean so i guess that's why we have a really nice indian contingencies because you're their guy whereas with me it's just a bunch of like uh you know like guys from ohio but whatever dude can i tell you speaking of ohio can i um do a little bit here on jerry spinger what about him he died two days ago i think um yeah his story is kind of crazy do you know much about jerry's backstory wasn't he the mayor of of someone in somewhere in ohio like dayton ohio or something but he was really the mayor of was he was the mayor first and then yes so basically his career is like he at 25 he's the advisor to robert kennedy during his presidential campaign who i think died or got assassinated or something um yeah then he's like okay goes on to do like kind of like local city politics ends up becoming the mayor of cincinnati for a brief period of time gets fired because he solicited a prostitute i think and got busted for it and so he's like oh sorry like yeah shouldn't have paid for an escort or something um so now he's like out of the political game and he's you know in his 30s i guess and he's like what do i want to do next and so he he gets casted onto local tv to do a political show it's like oh you could be like our political kind of like talk show type of guy.

50:40So he does that for a little bit. And then he gets his own show. So he's, I don't remember what year this is like, I don't know, 91 or something like that. And he gets his own political, he's doing his own political talk show. Three years go by, kind of unspectacular. And then the moment happens, a new producer comes in as like, hey, look, it's a political show. It's going nowhere. Let's switch it up. and the Jerry Springer show is born. So the producer comes in, he's like, look, we're going to shift it towards controversy, dirty laundry, and basically like we'll captivate, we'll make captivating TV by putting Scandal on air.

51:17And we'll have like - Was it fake though? So there's different opinions on this. I read a bunch of like Reddit posts of people who are producers on the show or went on the show. Here's where I think it met it out, which is they would cast for Scandal, people would say, yeah, that happened to me. The producers would intentionally not fact check anything. And, um, so you could, it could have either been real for you or you could have just been like, if I do this, I get to get on TV. I get a flight to New York. I get to go basically me and my, my whatever person get to go on vacation to New York.

51:52All expenses paid. We get to be on TV and yeah, that'll be that. And so for some, I think it was like truly real for a lot they were like kind of like make it up or they would embellish so it'd be like yeah i cheated but like actually they weren't best friends and i didn't see like we knew each other first and blah blah and he actually knew about it already he's not finding out on air but like whatever we'll kind of recreate that and was it daily or weekly so it was like it was a daily show it at its peak wow it's higher rated than oprah so he becomes the number one daily show and for the first time in people's so so here's some of the kind of amazing things it goes 18 years on tv jerry knows it's stupid but he's like this is what people want and i'm going to give them what they want and i had a few takeaways from this whole thing right so first of all jerry jerry just like just that's iconic it's just so iconic and i love it yeah that was it was it was the pre-Worldstar.

52:48Yeah, dude, Worldstar, Worldstar lives in the shadows of Jerry. So here's a couple things that stood out to me. Number one, he gave people what they wanted, not what they, what he thought they should want. And in fact, he started with what he thought they should want. Oh, here's the latest on the local political issues and where we stand and blah, blah, blah. And he pivoted and he pivoted the right way. And I think as entrepreneurs, there's a great like Gary Halpert quote where he says, never has more money been lost than trying to market to somebody what they should do versus what they want to do.

53:22And as a marketer, you got to internalize that. Now, there are some people that are not in my cult that hate that phrase. They think that's terrible. The world is terrible because of that. They say, no, shouldn't we strive to be better? Shouldn't we strive to help the world be a better place and not that? Like these sugar-filled cereals and these dopamine social networks and all this stuff, and so some people hate that that's true and they're fighting against it as an entrepreneur i'm in the camp of you are here to serve customers you're here to give them what they want if you want to win you give them what they want you get if you want to win really big you give them what they want in a way that no one's no one else is giving it to them or maybe even that they didn't even realize that they wanted people didn't know they wanted this and you're the first to provide it but that's the game of business and uh to me so so anyways i think he's a great example of giving people what they want uh two he pioneered a new format so his whole format of like putting this dirty laundry on air and the fights the bouncers the like the the the pregnancy test for the dna test reveals like this guy's a goddamn innovator uh number three he became number one he became bigger than oprah in his prime and lastly what i love was he uh dude he did 5 000 episodes.

54:39He got his friends to win too. So his security guy, Steve, who became a character on the show, their best friend, Steve says the most wonderful things about Jerry. And Steve gets his own spinoff show later after the Jerry Springer show. So I love that he kind of brought friends along the way and that when he eats, they all eat. And there was a few good examples of that. And the other funny thing about this... And people liked working for Jerry? From what I can tell, yeah, it was like the opposite of Ellen. Like, Ellen is seen as this like you know america's sweetheart and then behind the scenes was like you know a menace and apparently jerry was the opposite it's like he was seen as a menace to society and actually he was kind of a sweetheart um from from what people said now maybe it was just the guy dies and no one wants to trash him but like that's what i found the last thing though that i thought was interesting was that in a weird way because this show was really popular like in the early 90s his show was actually the first show to expose people to people being gay or trans or all kinds of stuff that's LGBTQ.

55:42And he was like, this was for a lot of people in America, they had never met or heard of anybody who was in any of those categories. And so he kind of was like the band-aid rip-off moment for a lot of America on these things, which I think is also kind of amazing. The real world was kind of like that too. I went to an all boys high school. And I remember being like 14 or 15. And for some reason, the high school, it was like a good... The culture of the school, young men felt fine coming out and saying they're gay. And I remember meeting these kids. And it was the first time I've ever done that.

56:17And met someone who admitted to being gay. And at first, I was like, back then, you would make fun of people. And then you realize, oh, that's horrible. Obviously, we shouldn't do that. And they're my buddies. and then it goes back to and therefore because i love you i'm gonna make fun of you just like i make fun of all my other friends yeah and because i love you i'm not gonna treat you differently we're all boys and we're just gonna tease each other over someone has braces someone you know likes men whatever it doesn't matter we're gonna make fun of ourselves and that's just a way that's the way that young boys show that we accept each other that's how we show love it was just a mini it was a mini jerry you know jerry was first you know like like well we're not not gonna make fun of this person because of this and that we're actually going to do it because it shows that we're gonna it's normal we're gonna normalize it so who knew jerry was so progressive i mean the guy was uh i mean we got rosa parks martin luther king we got jerry springer these like he's just one of many in a lineage of pioneers breaking down social yeah i saw he died dude he seemed he always seemed really likable i remember watching him like did you watch it like did when your grandmom like babysat you or something like that's like what i remember doing is like i was just home after school by myself yeah like like it was like four o 'clock when you get home from school you watch jerry and oprah i remember watching all or when you stay home from school being sick you watch maury staying home from sick watch prices right and shit yeah i loved maury maury was the best too he's gonna die soon too i just looked him up while we were talking he's 85 i think uh so the legends the legends it's a it's a passing generation salt the earth type of type of people who's doing this now is there like a thing now like where does this happen does this happen on tiktok or like twitch or youtube or something i i don't see that's a good question content even though it's a good one you know another great one like this my sister still listens to this every day when she drives her kids to school cheaters on radio this the show where they really bust cheaters like like that's still a thing it's a big it's a it's a big thing in the uh fm morning radio space which is a very small thing in the world now i think that is actually it was joey greco you remember joey greco the host is it just one i feel like every city just borrowed this format joey greco was like the more famous host and at one point he got stabbed you don't remember that episode where he gets stabbed dude he like gets stabbed and like the thing about the thing about that era of like the 2000s and 90s the reason it was cool was we don't know if it's fake because there is no one right tweeting you know what i mean you like think it's fake but like no one has a platform to like expose like that they went on the show and so that's kind of why it's hard to like recreate some of these things is like we didn't know like i i wasn't sure wrestling was fake or not until like you know five years ago i i who knew you know what i mean held out hope yeah yeah fairy and uh vince mcmahon maybe maybe there's a way yeah no one no one knew but no that's a good question i'm looking it up now cheater so he was hosted by joey greco the tv show version and then the later host was peter guns right the radio version is basically they call the wife calls in it's like i think my husband might be cheating so then they call the husband as a woman i don't know how i don't actually how they pull this off i gotta ask my sister what the actual format is because i don't know how it's all i don't know how to trick them that that easily because like i mean you're not to get a cold call from somebody be like yeah i'm down uh so i'm not sure exactly what they do or maybe they called oh i think what it is is they're like he might be cheating with my friend rebecca and they fake call as rebecca to try to like to catch him in the act and then they just do they hit the button and three-way call merging the wife and she just goes off on him on air it's it's incredible content i mean like anybody who's a content creator out there like if you're not studying cheaters you're not even trying if there's a subreddit called public freakout you ever go to public freakout i've I've seen public freak out on a, that's my favorite subreddit.

1:00:16That's my, that's my version. That's my version of Jerry Springer, public freak out and popping where they just pop like zits and shit. I love that. Big fan of that one. And public freak out. I was on the front page of popping one time. I had a picture, get 60 ,000 views. So it's just whatever. Can I endorse you for that on LinkedIn? How do I, dude, I swear to God, I had to get, I had to get like a cyst removed from my head. And I right before I went under surgery, I was like, hey, Dr. Brian, can you do me a favor? Here's my cell phone number. Can you take some pics while we're in surgery and send them to me?

1:00:51I want to post them on the subreddit. And he did. And I got 60 ,000 views. I have a I have a folder right here on my Safari or my Chrome. So it's called brain. And it's like I took like before, before, during and after photos. I was the number one. I'm popping. So no big deal. I think it's literally no big deal, actually. that's the cool part about it

1:01:16I guess that's the episode we did a recap and we talked about Jerry Springer alright that's the episode

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