The Total Man Lifestyle Explained & Two Of The Best NBA Players' Backstories

32:09Because I guess that was morning time in Japan. It was all people searching for Sasha Gray. And they were finding our article. Yeah. Yeah, and I found out that she had hired this company called like reputation.com to like boost that article. So it showed up first. So we're getting all these people searching Sasha Gray XXX and they didn't get what they wanted to. But whatever. You're like photos at the bottom of this blog post. Photos inside our newsletter if you subscribe. Dude, I didn't realize. I guess I realized it, but someone posted this infographic on Twitter of the biggest websites. And it was like Google was just like the largest.

32:45It was like bigger than everything combined. But then like, I think four of the top 10 were porn sites. And it's wild. I mean, imagine working at one of those companies. Can you imagine that? What would that be like just sitting in the office? It's weird. I've imagined it many times. So I've been, I can't talk about these, but I've been, I've had very interesting conversations with a few people that own OnlyFans-based businesses recently. And they're absolutely crushing it to the point where I can't talk about it because I would be kind of like, it's like, do you mean, do you mean the, the stars or like the ancillary things?

33:23All most, I'm talking about the ancillary things right now, but they're all crushing it. The platform is crushing it. The stars are crushing it. And the, the cottage businesses that get built around this to help this, to be a part of that ecosystem. But they're doing so well that I sort of, if I talked about them, I would be coming between them and like millions of dollars because a lot of people would want to compete with the strategies that they're doing. But I will say one thing that I've learned that was pretty interesting. So I always assumed that OnlyFans was popular because you're sending like, I don't know, nude pics or videos to guys and that's like the thing.

33:58That's what they're paying for. And I was always a little curious. I was like, porn's like free on the internet. Why would you pay for this? And I go, there must be something. I don't know. And I just kind of wrote it off as that. Do you know why they make so much money? Do you know what the actual moneymaker is inside of an OnlyFans account when these girls say that they're making like a million dollars a month? You know what actually drives that? I've never subscribed to one. I guess you probably have subscribed to a few now that you're like researching it, but I've never subscribed to one. You know, I'm a married man and I did not do that.

34:27But you didn't need to because I talked to the people who like run, they like run the accounts or whatever. Like what a lot of people don't realize is that a lot of these accounts are just they're bought. So like a girl has a public persona. she does an OnlyFans she kind of gets exhausted running the thing because it's like a lot and it's like emotionally exhausting dealing with all these guys and whatever so she's so somebody come approaches her and says we'll buy your account for you know I'll give you$200 ,000 right now for your OnlyFans account and then I'll give you you know X percent of the profits and I'll run it you just have to put pictures in a Dropbox folder and you give me good content and I will give you money and that's how it goes and then and so what actually people so I was like why do people pay for these pictures and videos like again porn's free that's like one of the rules of the internet is porn is free so what do people really want and it turns out that they want like the girlfriend experience and so yeah not through the content but through the chatting and that the chatting has all kinds of weird things like is it one group chat or individuals individuals and so they hire farms of chatters so basically what only fans is built off of like a lot of the the money is made through is giant like customer support you know uh call centers uh essentially in the philippines talking to you know it's basically like dudes in the philippines talking to dudes in the u.s pretending to be the girl and so they it's just like they have this army of chatters that will chat with these guys and tease them and flirt with them and then upsell them and boom cha-ching got the sale there and they're like salespeople they they got to go they get commissions and all this stuff it's insane and what how within that okay so one of the highest ticket items what's the you know if this was the the county fair what's that top stuffed stuffed animal at the top and it's basically like the number one is pretend to be my girlfriend for like you know a month and it's like text me as if you're my girlfriend um and it's like that's the that's like the top prize but there's other weird stuff underneath so weird that I can't even say this.

36:35This is a family show. And so I can't even say some of the weird stuff that they want, but it's not what you would think. It's not like super. Is it just like sending, sending pictures back and forth? Like I'll give you one example. One example is the guy who's the customer sending pictures to the OnlyFans person asking for their opinion or rating of them. And that's like a service that they pay for. And so there's stuff. And I guess like the two things stood out. One is, it's like the free market at work, baby. It's like you can really see what humans are all about when you talk to these people.

37:10Because it's like, man, people are into all kinds of crazy stuff. These are like their real desires. And these are desires they wouldn't admit. And I bet a bunch of these people are, you know, they're the person, they're doctors and they're the CEOs and they're other people. Like, you know, human desires got revealed. They were always there and they got revealed because OnlyFans gave a better avenue to realize those desires, which is kind of crazy to me. The second thing is, I think it's wild how much money is being made in this space. And my reaction to it is not kind of like, like, I think you were asking, what's your reaction to?

37:48No, my question is not, who cares if it exists? My question is, you getting involved into it. how does it make you feel and how does it make your wife feel? Well, I'm not involved in it. Well, okay, you're contemplating. I'm learning. I'm talking to these people because I find it fascinating. I have contemplated investing in some of these because I would not want to operate this. But, you know, if you're already down there in the sewer, let me know if you got something. I'll hand it up here. I will provide resources. Dude, you realize how hypocritical. That's so hypocritical. Why is it hypocritical?

38:23I would not personally enjoy operating this. I also would not like operating a deli or an ice cream shop or whatever, but I'll go eat a scoop. What's the problem with that? If they need resources, they need capital, or they need advice, I'll give them those things. I don't want to operate. So to me, that's fine. It's also hypocritical of me, by the way, if I consume porn and to also shit on it. So I'm not acting as though I'm holier than thou, but it is a conundrum. I told my wife, by the way, I was like, hey, I'm thinking about this. and she just goes okay don't tell me but if it makes money that's fine

39:03yeah i would also say that it's really funny i find it like amusing the way that the ecosystem works where it's like what you think it is is some woman with an account who's putting up content and guys want that and then she's chatting with them and it's like actually this like whole other the thing there's agencies that control the accounts the agencies are 90 dudes uh the chatters are like you know these call centers in india and the philippines and um i find it amusing i'm like that's hilarious that that's what this like that that's how this like evolved and i find that dude and i always i always get their reels on instagram at night in bed so like i try not to keep my phone uh so i uh like if i'm scrolling on my phone at like 10 p.m it's normally like ripped guys and dogs in the day.

39:50And then even in the evening, it's hot girls that pop up on my real, you know, like when you're scrolling through your Instagram. And I'm like, wait, what is this? And then you click on their profile and it links to a link tree, which goes to five other things. You see it because what they, one of their main growth tactics is they pay meme accounts. So accounts that just post funny jokes 99 % of the time. The way that those accounts make money is OnlyFans people will pay a lot of money to get posted one time at night on those accounts and then you can delete it in the morning and that's how they grow their own social followings and so through these meme distribution channels and so that's a funny part of it.

40:28But anyways, I don't even know, didn't plan to talk about this one but that's a funny little tangent. So, all right, listen. I don't know if this actually is going to interest you but I'm going to try to make this interest you because anything that uses the H word, history, you're not into. Right? But the total man should understand history because history he actually listen he actually has been alive through all of history it's like a Dos Equis man so I'm reading this book it's called like Killers of the Flower Moon it's basically about the 1920s Osage Indians it was Native Americans they were given this plot of land when they were like you know like the government was like hey you know we're taking this shit over here's your plot of land turns out it sat on this oil and so they all got rich and white people take advantage of them and kill them to steal their money and I was reading this book and they keep talking about the Pinkertons.

41:20Have you ever heard of the Pinkertons? Never. So they were like, kept talking. I was like, why don't they go to the police and they're hiring these guys called the Pinkertons. So Pinkertons, it was basically a guy named Alan Pinkerton. He started this company in 1950 and he started it because he was walking through the woods one day and he saw a bunch of like counterfeiters and he got curious. So he starts watching them and he starts figuring out what they're doing. And then he calls the police on them and they're like, well, we can't really solve this. He goes, give me a few weeks. I'm going to, I'll keep an eye on them.

41:47And I think I can figure out what they're doing, where they're going, and I'll be your detective. He does that and they get arrested. And he's like, I love doing this. This is very fun. And so he keeps doing it. And it starts like a small, like little mom and pop business where he goes to other people and he goes, hey, do you want me to help you solve this crime? Just pay me a little bit of money and I'll go and I'll go and do it. And we'll report it to the police and we'll give them all the evidence that they need. So he does this for a handful of years. and eventually he works his way up to like the uh the government american government is paying him money and it gets to the point where his people this is pre-secret service his people uh protect abe lincoln so we didn't have the secret service back then secret service was invented after abe lincoln got shot didn't do a great job yeah yeah can't win them all it turns out yeah can't win them all can't win them all it turns out yeah that is actually totally true he's had a bunch of losses, but, uh, so he, so he was like, uh, uh, failed to protect the president, but for some reason the government still liked him.

42:47So they start giving them contracts. So anyway, fast forward to the Pinkertons are still around and they've done a bunch of controversial shit. So like, as they grew companies like, uh, Andrew Carnegie, like the Titans of, uh, industry would hire him to basically like when there were, uh, unions that would go and strike, they would literally sit outside of a gate of a factory and like, like protest and shit and then also fight. And so the Pinkertons at one point killed like 24 of these like protesters. It was like a huge thing. And so they're like pretty hardcore. You have a note here that says at their peak, they had more agents than the standing American army.

43:20Is that true? That's insane. Dude, they had tons of people and their motto was Pinkertons don't sleep. We don't sleep. And their logo wasn't open eye. And so they like, it was just like, we are there all the time and we will always find out what's going on. You know, I thought that Mighty Ducks, Ducks Fly Together was the top, but we don't sleep might be better than Ducks Fly Together. Yeah, we don't sleep. But so this company was created in 1850, I think I said. I was reading about, coincidentally, this other thing going on with like Amazon. Amazon was having some issues with union stuff. And dude, Amazon, this company still exists.

43:59And Amazon hired these Pinkertons. So basically what they do now. So the company was sold in like 2005 or something for like$400 million. So not a significant amount of money for how long it lasted, but because it kind of peaked in the early 1900s. But they're still hired. Look at their website. Have you been to their website? No. Pay4Tim.com. It just says our story. And there's literally a picture of Abe Lincoln. That's the hero image. Do they have a hole in his head? Talking about owning your failures. These guys love it. Yeah. It just says whoops. we've learned from our mistakes nobody nobody feels faster than us yeah they took fail fast to her risk advisory investigations protection embedded smes i don't even know what that is that sounds dude so listen to what they do so they basically they'll hire these guys so pinkerton like there's like guards now i guess i don't know what they wear like just blue jeans and a plaid shirt and they like go to like they'll go to Starbucks, hired them, and they'll go to the Starbucks to get a coffee and they'll just try to listen in.

45:04And you'll hear like one guy talking to his coworker, like, hey, we should unionize or, you know, fuck this guy. Let's do this and that. And they go and report it back to like corporate headquarters or they'll try to figure out like when Amazon was launching a bunch of stuff, they'll go and just walk around the office and be like, is anyone talking about shit they shouldn't be talking about? And they like report it. They still exist. Google hires them. Facebook hires them. They still monitor this stuff. And it's a really, it's A, fascinating that a company has existed since 1850 or whenever it was, and they're still working.

45:38And B, I've started thinking about private police and security companies. And there hasn't been that many interesting security startups. So one of them that I actually invested in, it's called Deep Sentinel. Do you know what Deep Sentinel is? It's the security, it's a security thing where you're like, it's a security camera where it'll talk. It'll like, there's like a human watching on the other side. Deep Sentinels whole thing. Like they make a joke. They go rings awesome for watching your shit get stolen. And like, I, I have deep Sentinels at my house. And like one time a drunk guy came up to my front door thinking that I was, we were his Airbnb and like the camera like catches him and he says, Hey, sir, what are you doing here?

46:17And they call the police. So I walked down at like 3am and I see the cops at my house, like taking away this guy. And so anyway, that's kind of cool. Another one is called Bannerman. Have you heard of Bannerman? I have heard of this. It's like bodyguards, right? Dude, we used to do it all the time. So it was a company that went through Y Combinator and we host conferences. Well, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out. The site's still up. But basically, when you host a conference, by law, as well as like practicality, you need it. You have to hire security. You need security guards. And we would use Bannerman and we would hire like, and they have like a menu.

46:50It's like armed guard,$200 an hour. non-armed guard,$150, just a huge, scary looking guy,$100 an hour. You could hire them by the hour. And it was so easy. It was like Uber for security. It was awesome. But there hasn't been that much new startups in this space. By the way, here's the pricing. Unarmed guard,$59 an hour. Armed guard,$90 an hour. Off-duty police,$145 an hour. And they're armed. That's it. That's it. So I just get a big, scary guy to walk with me for$50 or$80 an hour, or whatever it was. I'll do it for free. The wrong type of scary.

47:28So anyway, I'm just like interested in this space and I thought like the Pinkerton thing, it was wild that this shit still exists. Do you know how much they sold for? Is that, or do you know anything about their revenues or anything? Like this is a crazy business. No, and I've looked everywhere and the founder, he says on his LinkedIn, he goes, I don't use LinkedIn anymore. That's like what it said on his profile. So I - The founder's alive? Yeah, his name's Johnny Chin. How is he alive? 1850? no oh i thought you're talking about uh fucking bannerman uh no no pinkerton no that dude's for sure dead uh how much does it cost i don't how much well you said they sold to somebody right 400 million dollars in 1999 400 like 99 um but it's pretty fascinating that it lasted that long it got sold so basically and i was doing even further research on this that like there's this It's like the security industry, it appears as though it's like a handful of big players and then tons of mom and pops.

48:23But the handful of big players, there's like three of them, and they each do like$10 billion a year in revenue. And what they do is they just acquire tons of like mom and pop businesses. And so now the biggest ones, you'll probably recognize a lot of their t-shirts because they'll see them at like concerts and shit like that. But then there's a bunch of private ones. Have you heard of Blackwater? No, that sounds good though. so dude this guy his name's he's his name's eric prince very controversial guy uh i haven't read his book but i want to but he was controversial because he started like a it was basically a private security company but they did shit for overseas so they would like uh protect like princes and saudi arabia and shit like that and then also when iraq and all that shit went down they would do government contracts and so they would eventually like you know do army shit so they would like protect like a convoy and eventually kill a lot of people.

49:14And they were like hardcore. And Eric Prince became a billionaire doing this. And he eventually sold it to private equity for billions of dollars. It's called Blackwater. Very ominous name. I love that name. But there's like a, there's like a bunch of interesting players in this space, but not that much like of these like tech startups. So I think it's really interesting and fascinating industry. I'll give a quick shout out to this genius restaurant. so this guy Joshua Goodfield tweeted this out there's a restaurant that basically named all of its like the number one the number two the number three office supplies so it'll be like mini dry erase board or like pack of pencils so that you can oh that's hilarious so you can expense all meals from this restaurant it's called USB Wired Mouse five dollar french fries yeah exactly I thought that was a genius little little marketing hack so shout out to that and then And, dude, are you watching the NBA Finals?

50:08I got a little human interest story for you. No, but tell me about it. It's pretty crazy. So the two teams that are in it, it's Miami Heat and Denver Nuggets. So the best player on both the teams have just like crazy backstories. So one, there's a guy in the Heat, Jimmy Butler. He, have you ever seen the movie The Blind Side? I love that movie. That's my favorite movie. It's his life. So the guy got kicked out of his house at like 13. And was crashing on friends' couches. And then this white woman just took him in. And she just joined their family. And he's like, yeah, she didn't have to do that.

50:44She just did it. He calls her mom. Her real kids are his brothers and sisters. That's just the way it was. And he was not, unlike the blind side. With the blind side, it was pretty clear this guy had NFL talent. He was just a freak athlete and was huge. And so any coach would kind of tell you that. Not to say that's why she did it, but it was kind of possible. but Jimmy Butler it was like he wasn't he went to a junior college then he transferred to Marquette then he barely got into the NBA and now he's a star but like it was not obvious have you heard do you know who the real parents in Blindside you know it's real people he owned Andrew Bullock he owned a shitload of KFCs and like Long John Silvers and shit and I googled him he sold it for 400 million dollars all of his franchises good things happen to good people good things happen to good people and so Jimmy Butler by the way so this woman that took him in, single mom also.

51:35So single mom with seven kids did this, took him in, basically put a roof over his head, and he ends up grinding his way to the NBA and does amazing things. He also was doing something really funny. So back when COVID hit, the NBA, to keep the season going, they had to create a bubble. Many sports had to do this. They created a bubble, which was like a... Didn't they do it at Disneyland? Yeah, they did it at Disney World, I think. So they did it in Disney World in Orlando. It was like, you live on on campus, nobody comes in or out. If food gets delivered, it gets delivered in a sealed box 30 feet away and it gets given to you.

52:09And they just tested everybody daily. And if anybody ever had anything, they got kicked out. And so during that process, Jimmy Butler realizes supply and demand is out of whack. So he starts making coffees. He brought a fancy coffee machine and starts making coffees. And people are like, yo, can I get some coffee? The coffee here sucks. I want the good coffee. He's like, yeah, cool, man. it's a hundred dollars that's like a hundred dollars he's like it's the price he's like these are players who cannot leave this bubble and so and they're like all right man fuck it and they just start giving him a hundred dollars for this coffee and so he creates this brand i think it's called big face coffee uh he and now he's like so he and during the bubble people want to know what it's like and there's a lot of the guys are like vlogging so this was like one of the storylines you know jimmy opened up a coffee shop he's just like you know killing us on this coffee and he's like yo i make the best coffee it's best coffee in the world hundred dollars and uh and so now he's like creating a spin-off brand of actually that that that coffee brand which is i think kind of cool and who's the other guy that that big white guy the giant white guy so uh yoke it so he looks mean that guy looks mean i saw he got into it with all town in serbia somber he got into it with some dude on the on the sidelines too i saw uh yeah that's funny that was the owner of another team he basically like bullied an owner of another team so um so this guy's he's awesome so he basically his story is even crazier i think so this guy's born in the middle of nowhere serbia he's got two older brothers and um he's he's even though they're really tall he only likes one sport horseback riding so so he just falls in love with horses always on the horse track or whatever but because he's so tall like uh you know when he wasn't on with the horses.

53:53He starts playing basketball. And what's interesting is that nobody would have ever known of this guy, except for the fact that there was one team that had a business model. Their business model was basically, let's find prospects that might have NBA potential. We don't care if we win now, but let's just find big dudes who got a lot of potential that might get bought out by the bigger clubs. They're kind of like house flippers. They're like, let's buy this guy. Let's see if we can polish up the asset and let's flip them to a bigger team in Europe or let's hold their rights and maybe we get there.

54:26Maybe the NBA team will have to buy us out. And they had done this with a couple of guys. And so the guy's reading the newspaper one day and he sees that at some youth basketball game, like some eighth grade game, some kid, you know, had like 25 points and 25 rebounds. And he's like, huh. So he goes and he finds this guy and he's like, hey, you ever thought about playing pro basketball? He's like, no. And he's like, come with me. So at like, I don't know, age 13, he like leaves his hometown and joins this like team. And they're like, so then you think the story is because he's the best player in the NBA now.

54:55So it's like, he must have been awesome. He's the best now? He's the best player in the world right now. But how close is he? He's like 7 '1", something like that. And so you would think, oh, he must have been dominating in Serbia. And then he went to these tier 4 league. He must be awesome. No, he didn't even play. The coach was like, this kid is so fat. He is just so out of shape. I will not play this guy. And so he's only allowed to go to practice. And they're like, until you can run, like until you're in shape, it's not going to work. He's like, what do I do? They're like, well, what's your diet?

55:26And the guy was drinking like two gallons of Coke a day. He was addicted to Coke. He just loved drinking Coke. And so they were like, you got to stop that. Like, first of all. And so he stops drinking Coke. He loses like 30, 40 pounds in the course of like a few months just by changing that like one habit and going and running every day in practice because they won't give him the ball. He just had to run on the side while everybody else practices. And so he's doing that. Finally, he starts playing. He becomes the top player on his team. Like as soon as he like was able to get in shape, he was the top player on his team.

56:02And he gets drafted in the second round. Like basically he's like one of the last picks. The NBA draft, if you go watch the video of like, oh, I want to see when they got drafted. Like you've seen when LeBron gets drafted. He gets on stage. He shakes the commissioner's hand. He smiles. The light bulbs are flashing. Like people know this is the start of a star is born. Well, was he just like walking by and they're like, here, take this hat. Here, just take that one. Even better. They just cut to a Taco Bell commercial and at the bottom ticker, it just said, pick number 41, Nikola Jokic. It just like, it goes across the screen, it goes away and it's a cheesy gordita crunch ad.

56:35He didn't even have that starting moment because nobody thought this guy would turn into anything. And then he's basically become, you know, the best player in the world. How old is he? He's only like 27, 28, something like that. He's pretty young still. and he actually wouldn't have even made it to the NBA. Like this team in Barcelona was going to buy him. That was going to be the flip. It was like, he goes from the Serbian team to the Barcelona team. And the day before he was supposed to sign the contract, like it was already the lawyer just had to finish one thing. He played in a game and he was so terrible that the team backed out.

57:03So he had no choice but to go join like the NBA team that had bought his rights or drafted his rights. And he's like, ah, I guess I'll go to the NBA then. Like, you know, I don't really know if anything's going to come of this, but whatever. And so he goes and he's this very stoic guy. like in all his interviews, they're like, they have these, the media has all these narratives. They're like, how has becoming a new dad helped you become a better basketball player? And I just look at them and be like, what? It doesn't, that's not how that works. He's just like, he's like just very matter of fact, like, you know, like, you know, like the kind of like Dagestani guys in the UFC.

57:34He's kind of like that, but for basketball. So he's a fascinating character and it reminds me of this quote that I heard from this VC. I was like, you know, what's, he had this Twitter bio. um let's get nico uh nico i don't know how he says that same bon santos bonos astos i don't know exactly how you say oh from uh general catalyst yeah from gc exactly the guy he invested in snapchat super early on and um i was like nico why is your bio why is your bio quote what it is and his quote was um talent is everywhere opportunity is not so talent is evenly distributed but opportunity is not and i was like why is that what does that mean he goes because it's true he He goes, talent is everywhere, but opportunity is not evenly distributed.

58:15And if I do my job right, we're going to distribute opportunity to more people who have the talent. And I think about both these guys, the two guys that are starring in the NBA, they're kind of like one little bounce of the Plinko chip away from it being a zero. And instead, they get to be world-famous basketball players. It's like, if this guy didn't get discovered while playing in a youth farm league in Serbia, or Jimmy Butler didn't get adopted by this woman, who knows if they would have ended up actually even getting their shot. It's like that's how fragile like, you know, like success and failure can be.

58:46Dude, last night I wouldn't hung out at this like, have you heard of Flow Track or Flow Sports? Sorry, Flow Sports. Yes. So Flow Sports started as, it was basically this guy would go, they started out of UT, University of Texas. This guy would go and film track meets and wrestling meets. Stuff that wasn't going to be broadcasted otherwise. Stuff that wasn't going to be broadcast. and he was just like, he was a track and field athlete and I think they had friends that were wrestlers and he's like, but you know, I'm a fan of running and like people love that shit but it's just not on TV. So he starts filming this and then he puts it online and he forms a company and people start buying it and paying like 100 bucks a year to watch this stuff and it's been around for 13 years now and now they do over 100 million in revenue and I was like, what's the fastest growing segment?

59:32And he said,

59:35motorsports. And I was like, oh, like NASCAR and shit? He's like, no, it's like these like, it's like the pre-NASCAR. So it's like where the 18-year-old kids, they do this thing called dirt track. So it's like, it looks like a buggy kind of. And they're on, it's like, he's like, it's grassroots. But he didn't say it, but it's like redneck shit. And he's like, that's our fastest growing segment. But we have like 18 sports, I think. They have wrestling, grappling, running, cross country, track and field, whatever, all this stuff. And so I went and hung out at their office because they had a little party.

1:00:00And I was with like three different guys who had won gold medals in the Olympics. One guy in the decathlon, one guy in the mile, and some other guys. And first of all, here's what was interesting. One of the, a bunch of the Olympians, I was like, hey, do you still run? You know, they're like maybe 40 now and like you still run and they're like, not a chance. Like it was my job and like I don't want to do that at all anymore. Like I'll exercise and go for walks and I'll lift weights but I don't want to like run like I used to run. I'm done with that. And the second thing was interesting is like, dude, these guys are all freaks.

1:00:32Like one guy, his name's Trey Hardy. You can look him up. His body is crazy and they are freaks of nature. But it's cool being around people like that who are A, the best in the world at something. Like they are literally, if they won a gold medal at that point, they are the best in the world at what they do. And it's so fascinating to like hear the stories. Like they would tell stories of like, dude, that guy, we used to go to the hotel and he'd be wearing flip-flops and he'd be like, hey, I bet you could touch the ceiling. And the ceiling was 15 feet high and he would just jump and just touch the ceiling.

1:01:00And they were like, we just would see a little like things like that. This guy would do shit all the time. Or he'd be like, watch this. I bet I can backflip. But he would backflip. but he would jump so high in the air. And like, we would just see these like freakish stuff all the time. And so I was thinking, would you give up any of the success that you've had so far in order to be a broke but Olympic medal winner or like the best athlete or whatever in the world? Because I was thinking about that and I think I would. No chance on the gold medal. Well, best athlete in the world. Yes, I would do that.

1:01:33But there's a lot of sports where you could like be the best NCAA wrestler, best normal wrestler. I thought you meant overall athlete. No, no, no. If I'm the fastest miler or NCAA national champion or whatever, no chance. I've said this before. The Olympics are for suckers. Oh, you are so crazy. Because I'm hanging out with these guys and I'm like, you guys are the best bobsledder the world has ever seen. you've dedicated your entire life to this absolutely arbitrary thing that got you that got you nobody that got you uh you know no no skills beyond this i'm just dude i'm so i so disagree because they were asking me advice on business shit i'm like hey just so you know i'm like the hundred thousandth most successful person in america maybe like that's what i want to do i want to play a game where the hundred thousandth person wins and has an awesome life not where i have to be the best person in the world and even then i gotta start over at age 27 and create a new career because i'm done with the thing and my joints don't work anymore these guys had shaved arms and shaved legs i was just staring at those calf muscles and i was like dude i could see every vein of your forum that's so awesome i would kill to have that i want some of that vascularity like look at that vein pop like i just love that it was cool uh his business advice was great but then he said he wants to put butter on my chest.

1:02:57I didn't understand that. They kept saying I had a really nice ball calf at the top of my leg. Dude, their calf muscles were just so solid. A little tennis ball was stuck in there. I just saw that. I remember I was thinking of this one guy, and I told Sarah after I was like, dude, I bet that guy's wife is so hot. You said to your wife?

1:03:23They're so lucky. and then she's like well he worked hard and i was like no the wife that wife is so lucky can you believe that she gets to see that bod like i was just thinking about that shit man and i just love these olympians man i'd give it all up just to be to be a gold medal in the high jump so i don't know where we go from here this is the total man episode it ends up with sam loving men dude i do like i can't you see a guy with like you know like some sick calf muscles you got to admire it you know yeah i guess you i guess you do you don't do that yeah definitely not the way you'd like there's been several people that come on this podcast and i'm like i'm pretty sure sam's just imagining them without their shirt on right back I feel like Sam does that like pretty fair you have some sick pecs bro how'd you get some of those things yeah if I see a guy with big pecs I just want to ask him a bunch of questions

1:04:27I don't know where we go from here this is something I feel like I can rule the world I know I can be what I want to I put my all in it like no days off on the road let's travel never looking back

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