A Series of Wild Claims

6:44Joanne McNally:Three times Is there a smell off you know with the fish? No Javoke there's no smell she's obsessed with smells and then I have

6:57Vogue Williams:I'd like you to describe me in three words one day I want to know what you you'd describe me as obsessed with smells

7:06Joanne McNally:I think that needs some thought for sure I had ultra ultherapy ultherapy lower face fillart high contraction to under eyes is what I've had. So basically they and it was spicy. It was spicy. But like I said to Bicky who was doing it as I said holding back tears I said no pain no gain. It wasn't actually that bad. But they basically this goes lower than Botox but it's like they electrocute your face. Oh I know that thing.

7:41Vogue Williams:Six months time.

7:43Joanne McNally:I'm going to be snatched to the gods. and then of course my under eyes will be like a child

7:50Vogue Williams:Gina went and got something like that done and she fainted because it was so painful and she had just been eaten and she was driving home and they were like you're going to have to have a coke and some crisps before you leave what did she get? I don't know something similar to that but Spenny only said to me there in Africa because I got that MD ultra laser with Debbie Thomas that I love getting. And he was like, what's the deal like? Your face is normal for about like two weeks of the month. And I was like, yeah, so what? Yeah. And the rest,

8:26Joanne McNally:yeah, and the rest we're investing in our future selves. And we have to walk around like fugitives. But that's fine because it's all going to a good place because there's two days of the year we look fantastic and the rest is downtime.

8:43Joanne McNally:That is so true. It's totally worth it. because whenever anyone says to me whenever I get anything done they're like you need a bit of downtime and I'm like sure and then I just walk straight out and go into a photo shoot or something like I just never listen to you so do I and that one time do you remember that one time where I didn't listen and I should have listened and I think I'd had my lips I think I'd had a bit of George in the lips anyway went in and they did a really good job it was just I didn't give it the downtime had a photo shoot and you always think you look normal don't you and I was tagged it was tagged in the photo by the BBC they put them up before I'd seen them and to say I nearly rang the front desk I looked do you know that cat woman who died recently

9:29Vogue Williams:oh yeah you didn't look you always think you look worse than you do you didn't look like that cat woman

9:34Joanne McNally:I actually before the cat woman started getting work done I actually do look like her a lot of people sent her to me I do look like her but then she obviously but I was I was like a very bloated cat and I rang I was like I was DMing the BBC and I was ringing the BBC and I was like remove and they did and fair enough to them they did take it in they did they had to everyone was like oh god it's that one photo I'll show it to you now hold on have it here

10:05Vogue Williams:I've just gotten to the point where I'm just like I just kind of lose interest in I just don't care enough to have it removed I wish I wish I was one of those people that like even today I was cycling my bike home I was doing voiceovers for Ferry in town and I was cycling my bike home and I was thinking of people and I was like they're always so glad they'd never be on a bike thinking of loads of people and I'm like they're so glad never be on a bike never see them on a bike you know it's just me going around on my bike with my helmet and you no sorry we need to be more glad yeah and me no fuck that I look like that get a car send the car

10:36Joanne McNally:do you want the photo yeah

10:42Vogue Williams:oh my god I think you I think you look like Amber Ha! Does she not look like Amber there?

10:50Joanne McNally:Jo, I'm sorry now Look at this I know people can't see it Well they can if they're on the YouTube I don't know if I can say this

10:58Vogue Williams:Bit of Leslie Ash

11:00Joanne McNally:Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh yeah I know what you're saying That time that she got the

11:06Vogue Williams:But can I say your hair looks great

11:08Joanne McNally:Right Yeah Your hair looks good Hair is fine Yeah But it was it was it was an alarming it was a sobering moment so yeah so anyway this is one of those times where there is downtime required and that's why I'm in disguise but wait until six sick wait give it six months wait until you see the stage of me girl we go

11:27Vogue Williams:John alright Jo set something in your diary there six months time we have to compliment Joanne on how good she looks

11:34Joanne McNally:yeah set an alarm set an alarm Jo put it in

11:37Vogue Williams:yeah put it in the diary

11:38Joanne McNally:the 11th of May then the 11th of May very important

11:49Joanne McNally:my Australia and New Zealand tour is now on sale Melbourne, Christchurch, Dwellington, Auckland, Brisbane, Perth, Sydney, next April 2026, joannmcnally.com I'm coming for you baby, I told you I'd come

12:07Vogue Williams:You want to tell me about your week? We sometimes do that, we sometimes do not but I want to know about your week.

12:12Joanne McNally:I've been all over the place. I've been in Derry. I was in Liverpool. Can I just say, they're both a vibe. Derry is a vibe. Derry is more... Have you been to Derry? Did we do Ghost in Derry? I did with Sackley.

12:25Vogue Williams:No, I've been to Derry with... I went to Derry with Elizabeth Day before. Oh, great. I had a boyfriend from Derry. A Derry boyfriend. Did you? Who was studying to be a doctor. Yeah, and I always wonder if he's still alive. Dr. Dave. Yeah. Alive? Why would he be dead? Was he dying? I don't know. I just always wonder about him because I tried to Google him once because I think I was talking about him in my book or something and I was like, I wonder if he's alive, Dr. Dave. Or he succumbed. He was 79 at the time. Yeah, I was like, how much older was this sugar daddy? A lot of money.

12:57Joanne McNally:Derry's a cool town. It's like, it's got loads of these kind of like gorgeous little pubs that you want to dissolve into and spend the day and sink in pints. Do you know what I mean? And then Liverpool. Liverpool is a vibe. Yeah, it's a great city. It's a different place. It is savage. I was like, why wasn't I coming to Liverpool on these girl weekends when you always see the Scouse girls going up to London in their rollers on the train with their little bottles of Prosecco. I don't know why they bother their hell leaving. It's absolutely savage. It was pumping. They're so glamorous. It was pumping.

13:33Joanne McNally:Every place. It was like a really autumnal Ibiza, if that's fair to say.

13:41Vogue Williams:Yeah, but up north is, they're all like that up north. They're all just have this, like, they couldn't give a shite. Liverpool's up north. It's not.

13:50Joanne McNally:Yes, it is. Liverpool's not northern.

13:52Vogue Williams:Liverpool is northern.

13:54Joanne McNally:Where do you think it is, Joanne? No, Newcastle's up north.

13:59Vogue Williams:So is Liverpool.

14:00Joanne McNally:It also is. No, it's just north of London, but they're not northerners. Like, Liverpool wouldn't say they're northerners.

14:07Vogue Williams:They are northerners. are going to have to disagree with you quite aggressively. No.

14:12Joanne McNally:I know, Scalters. We're very close, confident friends, confidants and friends. Okay, okay. Well, when is winter? When is winter?

14:20Vogue Williams:You've made some outrageous claims today. I don't know what's going on. She's a flat earther. It's what's happened. She is a flat earther. And now it's just extending into...

14:30Joanne McNally:Well, if the earth is round, why are we falling off it, folk? I mean, I've asked you this a million times and you can't answer. So. I won't have my politics questions.

14:43Vogue Williams:They are the biggest users of tan, by the way, up north. They're the biggest users of tan above Ireland. So up north is the biggest users and then Ireland are big.

14:52Joanne McNally:Yeah, I was mortified that I didn't have a curly blow dry done for my Liverpool show. I was in the Empire. By the way, sorry, this is what I meant to say. Derry, wall to wall, vag. The least amount of men in the audience. Again, it was the same for Prosecco. Same this time around. Liverpool was a mixed bag. I couldn't really see them, to be honest. It was very dark in the old room, but they were absolutely savage. Great audience. I wish I could do another show. Joanne, sorry.

15:18Vogue Williams:I can't say Recco, and you're on here talking about Vag. Where's the line? I don't like Vag.

15:26Joanne McNally:Recco is the line. We've established it.

15:29Vogue Williams:Vag is my line. Vag is my line.

15:32Joanne McNally:Sorry. You're right. You're right. Wall to wall womb is better, I think, isn't it?

15:37Vogue Williams:Jo in like three months time Joanne's gonna come on here giving me some recos she'll be like oh no she'll be like no it's cool now because I've said it

15:44Joanne McNally:well I am announcing my Australia tour dates quite soon so I will be appealing to that audience you wouldn't know what I'll be wearing Flame and Galat t-shirts and all for the next three months I'll tell you what

15:55Vogue Williams:you won't be appealing to them I am gonna do your Australian

15:59Joanne McNally:tours tour dates folk I would and Jo I'm gonna ask you I know you won't come that's why I feel safe in asking you

16:06Vogue Williams:to Australia no

16:09Joanne McNally:folk would you please take me on a girls trip to Liverpool please

16:14Vogue Williams:I will girls trips are good for the soul I just went on a girls trip for my we did another 40th trip I'm sorry but it was everyone was involved it wasn't just me and then Amber and Megan tagged along as well but we went up to Glen Africk which you've been to before which you have to come again and we all just are like it's just good for the soul to be away with your friends to just all be hanging out and to just be having such a laugh like I just my cup feels full

16:42Joanne McNally:you know when you're like you haven't a pot to piss in and you're trying to fly somewhere so you have to do all the like those 60 hour round trips even though it's only a one hour flight and you're like you're going over Iceland and all to come back to Scotland from Dublin and it took me I don't know how many days it took me to get there but I really wanted to go I would love to wake up in a really fancy five star hotel in Liverpool get a curly blow dry get my hair and makeup done get dolled up to like a dog's dinner and go to the Ivy for the day in Liverpool I was looking at I was taking photos of the outside of the Ivy it looked stunning We can go to the Ivy

17:21Vogue Williams:in London yeah let's go somewhere else in Liverpool that's like and there's loads of lads there's fucking loads of lads up there I'll go look at her whispering so no one else knows

17:36Joanne McNally:I'll tell you do you know what as well and this is a tip to the single girls right because I get asked a lot about where their single lads are in London and I'm like I do not know I do know they're in the Devonshire pub in Soho war to war I'm not going to say it

17:52Vogue Williams:That's a lovely pub even I for a non-pubber I that's the only place Ryan Tuberley lives in there that's the only he actually doesn't even have an apartment in London he just lives in the in the Devonshire pub it's Irish round and it is

18:06Joanne McNally:best Guinness in London and it is great food to war lads I mean I don't know why how I don't know has he grown them in there himself I don't know if they ever leave I don't know if I don't know if they're there against their will I don't know if he's rented them but you know I'm telling you now girls telling you now girls if you want a day out and you want a little flirt get your ass in there I couldn't get over it

18:32Vogue Williams:or go to Park Run and Battersea Park. I've never come back to life, you know. Oh really, but I thought you went to December 9th, no? Are we not holding out for that? I saw you out, by the way, the other night. Yeah, no, I saw you out the other night and I wonder if your man-to-be saw that you were out. I was like, he's going to see that and say, that little bitch, that little bitch told me she wasn't free until the 9th of December.

18:54Joanne McNally:There she is out in the Devonshire. I haven't spoken to him since we made that arrangement. Little does he know I'm going to completely follow up with that in the morning of the 9th. He'd be like, tell me the plan, please. Marcus.

19:07Vogue Williams:Should we give a shout out to Michael D. Higgins? Ah, Michael. Disappointing you didn't invite us for any of the parties is the only bad thing I'm going to say. We are disappointed we never got invited to any of the parties, but we're willing to look past that because two terms as the Irish president, you were so kind and you left the house on Monday. You left us. You left. and you know what we didn't even have to take anything off your deposit you left it spotless

19:34Joanne McNally:as usual we're six weeks behind the podcast so by the time this airs Catherine Connolly will probably have finished her term also and will be leaving the

19:43Vogue Williams:well she might she might give us an invite

19:45Joanne McNally:by the time this airs she'll have had her inauguration there was no invitation to that Jo you know Michael D. Higgins don't you Michael D. D. Irish president I do know Michael D. Higgins wonderful side old man white hair yeah Michael's wife Sabina because for ages no one wanted we didn't feel that the new presidential candidates were really up to much up to scratch and we were kind of spoiled about Michael De Higgins because I really loved him and he was you know he was a great representation of the country and he was just kind of very what would we say

20:18Vogue Williams:he just

20:19Joanne McNally:wholesome just a kind

20:21Vogue Williams:he's wholesome he was kind and he was just like he just had the right way about everything and he was just on the right side of most things that he was talking about. He was. Yeah, he was.

20:34Joanne McNally:And we were like, oh, would we not let him stay, let him stay. But you can only do two terms, I'm pretty sure. So we have to go two or three terms. But then I was thinking myself, I was like, he should probably stay. And then I saw a video of Sabina, his wife. When I say, she was being interviewed by Wartini's about the fact that they were leaving. When I say she was buzzing to go, she was practically spinning and twirling with the excitement. And I was like, oh, she's like it's non-stop it's 24 hours a day 7 days a week it never ends and she's like I'll get to go home I can't wait to go home and I was like oh my god this woman can't wait to get out of there

21:11Vogue Williams:well it's not her house and if I yeah but it's it looks like a cold house now and I wouldn't mean I need to know the energy rating before I decided to move in there because if there's one thing I can't stand it's being cold and I reckon that it's got a BER rating of D or less and it wouldn't be for me. I won't accept. I won't accept.

21:30Joanne McNally:We're playing their we're playing their heating bills aren't we?

21:33Vogue Williams:Anyway he has two huge Bernese mountain dogs. I think one of them's dead. One of them died yeah but he still has one left.

21:42Joanne McNally:Yeah so he has these two he had these two Bernese mountain dogs one left but did you see all the people turned up with their Bernese mountain dogs as yeah as he was leaving. Yeah I know it's the cutest thing. It was cute. So cute. I know. It was like this kind of presidential crufts. It was gorgeous. Anyway, Michael, good luck to you in your next job. There was a line-up released, Vogue. It rhymes with

22:08Vogue Williams:fungal. Oh, I know. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I love watching I'm a Celeb. Is that what you're talking about? Yes.

22:18Joanne McNally:Are you a celebrity, Vogue? Are you... Do you have a fungal infection?

22:27Vogue Williams:Did you not see that they were no did you see the whole line up was released yesterday? Was it the whole line up though? Yeah it was released yesterday ITV released it and it was in the Daily Mail and I looked at it and I thought what a nice gang what a nice gang I love H Ruby Wax who's your top to win that you saw in the line up yesterday?

22:45Joanne McNally:Well I'm a big fan of everyone in there actually I'm not that's not true but I'll keep my opinions to myself one person I would like to one person I'd be fascinated to get to know better would be Ruby Wax I'm a big do you remember her 90s chat show she was off the she's as mad as a box of frogs in a fun way in a nice way I mean I know she's also had some very serious mental health struggles and continues to do so I just mean that I loved her style of comedy and interviewing

23:09Vogue Williams:what I like about people is when they're interesting but they're also interested so like they want it's not she's not just gonna I don't feel like she'd be going on about herself all the time I think she'd actually get to know people which means then you get to know them

23:19Joanne McNally:I read Ruby Wax's book Frazzled it was very good she's very like she talks the way she talks about her parents at all. She like She had a bad relationship didn't she? Yeah. Very bad. Yeah she's been through a lot. God you're lucky with your parents.

23:32Vogue Williams:Aren't we lucky with our parents that they're so sad?

23:34Joanne McNally:Very blessed. Yeah we really are. Yeah Jesus. She's not obviously not lucky

23:39Vogue Williams:with the dead ones.

23:41Joanne McNally:I don't know.

23:42Vogue Williams:Do you know my dad's dead like oh god I don't want to get it wrong but he's dead tomorrow Wednesday is his anniversary I think he's gone 17 years and I'm not mad. How long has your dad gone? Which one? I don't know. The dead one?

23:57Joanne McNally:Oh, that one.

24:03Joanne McNally:I can't keep them. I can't hold on to the father for any more of them. I forget my head if it wasn't put on. I've lost two fathers now. I mean, that's just careless. One, you can forgive. Two, come on now. You're not even trying. Do you know, I was reading a Miling class in the Sunday Times weekend. And we were talking about her stalker actually. It was terrible. I had no idea she went through all that. But they were mentioning her time in Celebrity Jungle. And remember the white, remember she had that iconic moment where she had this white bikini and she was like under the waterfall and she's got, her body is insane to be fair.

24:41Joanne McNally:She auctioned off that bikini for seven and a half grand.

24:44Vogue Williams:If you went in, what would you auction off in there? Your boots. My bikini.

24:50Joanne McNally:Those boots. Your bikini. my water bottle I thought it I think the bikini is a little sexy there's a little a little sassiness to it auctioning off a boot you know we're not Elvis I don't think anyone would be that arsed if you had to pick out of that group like oh my god you want McNally's shoelaces don't see that happening

25:15Vogue Williams:I'm just saying I'd rather I'd get more use out of the boot to be honest with you do you know any of them in there have you ever met any of them I met H at Glastonbury because I'm quite a big fan of his. I like his music and he was really nice. H from Steps is in there, is he? H, a rapper. Oh. I met Martin Kemp. He's always very nice. Kelly Brook, know her. That's kind of it.

25:42Joanne McNally:I worked with Martin Kemp and his wife Shirley. They were doing that. She's very nice as well. Lovely woman. We were doing that interiors for a charity. interior show that Alan Carr hosts with the the blind bear whose name I can never remember the bear Pudsy

26:01Vogue Williams:Pudsy and your man with the eye patch all the blinds there

26:05Joanne McNally:yeah

26:06Vogue Williams:a fellow with the eye patch you and I are just finishing off each other's sentences like no one's business

26:14Joanne McNally:and I remember asking I had heard this rumour that Roman Kemp Martin and Shirley's son was given also very nice very nice man was given by George Michael it was his godfather and that George Michael gave him the royalties of one of his songs shut up as his present yeah so within within 30 seconds of meeting Martin and Shirley Kemp I asked him straight away was it true and and it is not true oh I know I know Joe cut that out

26:50Vogue Williams:it's nicer to think cut that out I like pretending things I've just like this AI stuff is something to be real I've heard it Roman Day's Last Christmas the song by Wow yeah right Roman Kemper billionaire billionaire yeah

27:04Joanne McNally:Otto better not be getting any ideas about royalties he'll be getting his credit union 100 quid a year like everyone else

27:14Joanne McNally:okay that's all he's getting make sure he knows

27:17Vogue Williams:oh he is have you did you set him up on a count yeah Ring Lauren, Alexa. Backdate.

27:25Vogue Williams:Backdate it. He's three now. So you owe him a few. Right? Just give me 20 grand and I'll look after until he's 18.

27:36Joanne McNally:I'm so thick. I'll be like, okay.

27:44Joanne McNally:One of my other godchildren, I sent him money to buy a pair of runners but I'd no real reason to do it. And he said, oh, why? And I went, secondary scale. And he's like, started that last year, Angie, do you want? And I was like, do you want the money or not?

27:59Vogue Williams:I need to discuss something with you.

28:03Joanne McNally:Oh, God. What have I stolen now?

28:09Vogue Williams:You never steal anything. You just leave stuff behind. And you haven't been over in a while. So, like, it's feeling pretty light down there, to be honest. I'm waiting for that jumper, that fabulous jumper you had on. One day I'll have that. That's why I didn't even look. I didn't ask you where it was from. It doesn't matter to me because I know I'll get my hands on it one day. But no. So obviously Winston died. We've just collected his. What?

28:36Vogue Williams:We've just collected his ashes. Why did you tell me? But Tom Brady, you know that he was married to Giselle. He plays for the NFL. Do you know him? Can I just say,

28:48Joanne McNally:I am dying. to see how these two stories connect. I'm on the edge of my seat.

28:54Vogue Williams:He cloned his dog. So the dog he has now is not the old dog. It's his new dog cloned from the old dog. And to say I am seething with myself that like all I was thinking about was like, is it weird to stuff him or not? I should have been thinking, get him cloned. I didn't even consider it at the time. And I'm like, honestly, I was thinking of flying to Australia and getting another Winnie. I could have just cloned him and had him here. Would you really do that? Joanne, did you meet Winston? Have you met Sir Winston? Of course I would have done that and I would have got you one too. Everyone wants a Winston.

29:33Vogue Williams:Who does it work with the cloning? Would you call him Winston, the number two one? Would you call him Winston as well? My dad John has had the same dog for, as far as I know, for the last 30 years because I picked him up when I was eight, took him for a walk. Sam, they're all called Sam. his dog is Sam next one's Sam next one's Sam he must have had seven Sams and if there's a new Sam Sam's in the house now a new Sam why not Winston imagine having a Winston and I could I could have made an absolute fortune because everyone would have taken a Winston I have a feeling they've cloned Cher you know I think it's unethical here she goes again I think I'm telling you she is extremely high on some sort of substance insane.

30:18Vogue Williams:I'm telling you. She's high on filler.

30:20Joanne McNally:She's too, she's too, she's been around too long to look that well. I'm pretty sure she's, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a couple of versions of Cher floating around. I don't know. If I could, I wouldn't care about the ethics, but I just wonder what version of Pat I'd get. Would it be like Pet Sematary where they come back kind of evil? I don't know. You know?

30:43Vogue Williams:Just like a, well, you don't know what personality, And supposedly, this will be for you, Joanne, there is a conspiracy theory with your man, Tom Brady, that he also cloned his own DNA 23 years ago and that they're in this like experiment in North Carolina. And supposedly this person is alive today and he has real physical traits towards him. And people actually think it's a guy called Drake May and he is a quarterback for the New England Patriots. And everyone's like, he cloned himself and this is the product of his cloning. Now, I don't believe that because it is unethical to clone people but like I'm I'm on the same page as you I'd clone my mum too It's not just having kids people not just

31:22Joanne McNally:is that did you not just have a kid 23 years ago 23 years ago and he's

31:26Vogue Williams:trying to deny paternity and he's like

31:27Joanne McNally:I've been cloned no? Okay

31:31Vogue Williams:I'd clone I'd clone my mum but I'd also have to clone Spencer's mum couldn't come on have to clone her no no no you don't have to and then once you start that

31:39Joanne McNally:where does it end? Do you know what I mean? I'd be pretty happy

31:43Vogue Williams:with those two to be honest with you

31:46Joanne McNally:that's where it ends

31:50Joanne McNally:I just wonder what version like when you clone an animal like I'm not up on the science of it what are they like are they kind of walking into walls remember Pet Sematary that Stephen King book and film which is brilliant and there was that weird witch it was built on I think it was indigenous land and they the pets who were buried there all came back to life and then the guy they lived on a main road every time and then the guy his son was killed by a truck and he buried the son in the pet cemetery and then the son came back to life but he wasn't the same he was weird and evil he was like Chucky doll vibes I think I'd take I'd take evil Pat I wouldn't mind I'd take evil Pat we just fight lines but she'd still be around

32:35Vogue Williams:Once you had something every time you open your mouth Joe starts typing furiously just to flash

32:43Vogue Williams:it's necessary to say she's on for a hat trick

32:47Joanne McNally:of wild scientific claims

32:49Vogue Williams:so Joanne 9-11 would you tell us about that please

32:53Joanne McNally:why would I put poison in my body I was watching there was a woman I was watching on TikTok the other day and she's had 11 children without any of the kind of without a single scan without any kind of medical intervention at all with her children. And then, but she's on her 11th baby. She's 43. Jesus. Someone was like, I'm guessing you didn't get the vaccine. She's like, well, I'm telling you now, I'm not going to put poison into my children's bodies. But yeah, so she's never got a single scan. And then there's, there's midwives underneath it going, this is really not recommended at all. And she's like, how dare you?

33:33Joanne McNally:You know, giving birth to the most natural thing it was. I mean,

33:37Vogue Williams:it is and it isn't. Also, it's a very dangerous thing for women to go through but I mean 11 children I was awake with my three children at 20 past 6 this morning and thinking of will I start playing classical music in the morning will that help will that help will it make my house a calmer place to be in 11 of them you must just be lose the hearing all together 11 kids

34:00Joanne McNally:yeah and they're all kind of homeschooled and you know it's all quite you know earthy

34:05Vogue Williams:did you give her advice

34:07Joanne McNally:on the old homeschooling wouldn't be for me yeah I'm like time to tap dance I would like to talk about something

34:18Vogue Williams:okay

34:19Joanne McNally:Jo this is for you Jo

34:21Vogue Williams:get ready Jo okay do I need to fact check it do we know if it's no no no

34:25Joanne McNally:I just mean it's kind of male focused have you seen the new have you seen the new John Lewis Christmas ad

34:31Vogue Williams:no

34:33Joanne McNally:oh Jo and I'm such a Christmassy person I haven't seen it It's basically It's I watched it And I was like Why am I crying I didn't understand Has that ever happened to you I didn't understand Will I watch it

34:47Vogue Williams:Will I watch it quickly Yeah How long is it Okay give me two seconds

34:53Joanne McNally:Okay I've just watched it

34:55Vogue Williams:She's watched it Isn't it

34:56Joanne McNally:Isn't it gorgeous Isn't it so sad But beautiful It's so nice It's just so sad I know Sorry it's just so funny To watch someone watch it in real time so basically so I watched it and like you both I just started crying but I was like I don't really know it's so they're so good at pulling on your heartstrings and I don't even know why or how but then so basically it's like this son and his father and they maybe don't really know how to communicate that well together and then the son gets him this album that was big when his dad was young and raving I think it's Alison Limerick sings it and then it kind of takes him back into the memory of him raving and then he remembers all the memories of his son being born and his son growing up Oh it's I know but you know what I thought was really nice there's all this chat about this male loneliness epidemic and that men are really strolling at the moment and I thought I thought it was kind of nice giving something for the lads So nice And it's less whimsical than usual it's not a very whimsical ad do you know what I mean it's quite a real ad and apparently they're saying it was inspired by that TV show Adolescence on Netflix but then John Lewis are saying it's not because they made this they decided to make this last January before Adolescence came out but anyway I thought It's very good it's very good

36:07Vogue Williams:speaking of men like men and their feelings and all that kind of stuff Spen is starting his run and he's doing his they're basically he's doing it for James' Place which saves the lives of men in suicidal crisis it's an amazing charity and he's starting his run so he'll have started it on Thursday he'll have done his first it's basically he's doing a triathlon in seven different continents and he's trying to break a world record by doing the fastest triathlon in Antarctica and he's also trying to do the fastest time doing seven triathlons in seven different continents. So he starts that on Thursday and he's doing it for James' Place, which is that brilliant charity.

36:42Vogue Williams:And oh my God, I feel really sad after watching that ad. And yeah, so follow him. He'll have it all on his Instagram. Follow him and support if he can. It really is an amazing charity. But I'll tell you this much.

36:54Joanne McNally:He's a smart bastard because some husbands, they'll pull the golf cart and they'll head out for a weekend. He's managed to wangle three weeks away from the children under the guise of charity work because he can't even be angry at them.

37:12Vogue Williams:What a genius. I always think because I actually get asked that question a lot. I'm like well because it's part of his work that he's doing something like this. Do you know what I mean? People go away to work all the time and when I want to go away to work he's back home being supportive of me. I'll have to start taking the bloody bins and stuff out now which I don't like doing. All his jobs that I don't like doing that he does I'm now going to have to take over them but anyway good luck to Spenny good luck Spencer see you wouldn't want to be you see you wouldn't want to be you fair play fair play do we do any charity work folks I'm still getting your letters from UNICEF I just opened them now

37:51Joanne McNally:I'm like oh thank you are you the money was only resting in my account UNICEF

37:59Vogue Williams:I get a little double whammy

38:07Vogue Williams:Put the glasses back on. Jesus Christ. Look at her eyes, Joe. Show him. Show him. He'll get a fright. I was trying to wink at you. Because he's a man. He won't get it. Look. Okay. I see it. I do see it.

38:18Joanne McNally:It's going to a good place, Joe. You wait for four hours on Christmas Day. I'm going to look bangin'. Speaking of supporting, did you see Ronaldo talking about his wife in the news the other day and he got absolutely rinsed because of it.

38:35Vogue Williams:I did. I know about them because I watched her reality show on. I can't remember what it was on and it was just like, you're just watching this life that is just so far removed from anything that like just go on a private yacht, the weekend, like they have just like, their life is wild, but I didn't see that. What did he say?

38:53Joanne McNally:He was asked why he loves his partner or why she is the one for him as such. And his answer was quite pragmatic, really. He said, she's obviously she's beautiful and she's got a body that I really like but that was said with you know I mean I think he's access to a lot of those kind of bodies but he was like she looks after me she looks after the home she looks after the kids and it was very much how she makes me feel and how she looks after me and she you know accommodates my lifestyle and all this stuff so of course the internet piled on straight away and they're like me me me she never mentions him and then of course it got kind of spiralled off into the manosphere women were going the women were going mad and I didn't when I saw it I didn't know there was any backlash at all at the time I just saw it through when I was floating through the algorithm and I did think wow that is a very self-centered take on your relationship but then again then the men were piling in and they were like what's wrong with that what's when if you want to be looked after and if you want to have your house run by somebody and if you have the pick of all these women and they are your demands and she is at home raising the kids and she's doing all this and I don't know I was just like there was nothing about her Yeah but would you not say

39:59Vogue Williams:something about her yeah would you not say something nice about her and her personality and what made you fall

40:05Joanne McNally:in love with her yeah there wasn't a single thing about her character maybe her personality was shite

40:13Vogue Williams:she actually does seem sound no she does seem sound I think that that's a bit weird but I suppose when like he has this like strange level of fame that he doesn't really live in the same worlds that we live in so like maybe he's just like oh that's why that's why she fits into my life yeah she supports me

40:31Joanne McNally:he's spoiled as well he could have anyone he wants do you know what I mean so he's like if I'm going to have anyone I want I'm going to go for someone who looks after me anyway I just thought it was a very interesting take I was like may that love never find me but I do don't think I'm at risk of Ronaldo Baisky if you're listening to this back off I'm not interested I don't enjoy your take Joanne's not going to look after you so forget about it forget about it Ronaldo look elsewhere do you know what I mean would you not be like well actually she's really kind and I love the way she sings in the garden in the evenings I don't know I've never been married I don't know what people do in the evenings

41:10Vogue Williams:I know but you would want somebody to say something like Svenny did this really nice speech about me at our at our at my 40th birthday in London and he did say those things about me like being a great mother and like looking after the kids and like how like lovely our home was but he also said very nice things about me as well and what he actually specifically liked in me as a person because at the end of the day you ought to be hanging out with somebody who you want to be your like best pal as well like I couldn't be with Sven if he wasn't like my best pal Yeah

41:40Joanne McNally:like Renato was talking about his partner like he was just she was a hot nanny like there was nothing he said about her that couldn't have been said about a hot nanny You know what I mean? She is an absolute ride But I do think a lot of men do I think they do crave I do think I do think they want to be looked after and I think there's you know there's a lot of women out there who like to do it and are willing to do it

42:03Vogue Williams:you know I like looking after people in a sense but I like looking after most people around me within my life but not to the detriment of my own looking after

42:11Joanne McNally:that's it you gotta look after yourself first put your own mask on first isn't that right this is exactly it

42:16Vogue Williams:put your own mask on first well no I think oh no I do yeah you're right the airline says put your own mask on first put your kids on next before assisting yeah well I'd like to give a little book recommendation oh great Eddie Jordan oh a pile of mine full throttle this book has come out and all of the money made from it all the profits are going to his foundation and he's hilarious so I can only imagine the book with all the stories about Eddie would also be hilarious he's got the Eddie Jordan foundation so all the profits made are going to that

42:46Joanne McNally:I'm sitting here thinking if he was a mate of yours like how come I just got invited to House parties with Amber and Megan would you not have invited me to a house party where Eddie Jordan was there no

43:00Joanne McNally:I'm like hi Sandra hi Auntie Gina and suddenly you're off Do you know if Eddie didn't invite you

43:05Vogue Williams:to his white party? Did he have a white party? I'm sorry he had a white party yeah I was invited to the white party a couple of times I'd be very careful about that would have been right up your street now

43:18Joanne McNally:you could be having a big Sydney Sweeney moment there you'd want to clarify exactly what you mean by that

43:27Vogue Williams:White clothing Everybody White clothing Thank you Good to be clear Good to be clear Look Oh look She's raging She's only going for me Because she wasn't advised To the white party herself The white party

43:43Vogue Williams:Well everybody Thank you for listening That has been The podcast Oh Well done See you later See you later

43:51Joanne McNally:That was the podcast in case anyone was wondering what that was. Just what we did there. That was,

43:56Vogue Williams:yeah, and please don't, anything that Joanne said. What the fuck was that? Does anyone know what that was? Do you know what? I don't know what the fuck it was. I'm worried people are now going to start thinking it's summertime. Fucking hell. What was that? Do you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of when I got that blow dry. You two little bitches there laughing at me.

44:22Joanne McNally:I mean I'd say three times a month I get sent photos of Afghan hounds that one really stuck some stuff you say and it just goes off into the ether that's not going anywhere

44:32Vogue Williams:I don't care I'm actually quite happy about that

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