Auntie Joanna, Teeth & Bestiality (Again)

26 Sep 2025 · 45 min · 26 chapters

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In short

The episode mixes comedy and chat about health/medical mishaps (flu jab timing, a lost dental filling leading to an emergency root canal wait, wisdom teeth refusals), science-fiction ideas (regrowing teeth), and taboo/“morbid” stories (doctors leaving objects in patients; a surgeon leaving mid-operation for an affair; bestiality as a planned deep-dive topic). It also covers personal life: Joanne’s “dry” month after losing her phone and burning her thumb, phone-screen-time stats, kids’ requests and hair-color comments, and London Fashion Week helmet embarrassment. It ends with courtroom-drama anecdotes (beanie-baby divorce, cow custody in Romania, neighbors forced to hug/shake hands) and a nursing-home murder case involving a wheelchair.

Guests

No guests appear; it’s a solo host chat between Joanne McNally, Vogue Williams, and Jo Atwell.

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Chapters

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Exciting Competition Announcement

0:15 to 1:56

Details about a competition to win tickets and meet the hosts.

“We've never done a competition on the podcast before Vogue, but that is about to change.”

Flu Jab Experience

1:56 to 2:24

A humorous recount of an early visit for a flu jab and related banter.

“For full T's and C's, including prize date restrictions, visit makesomenoise.com forward slash win.”

Dental Issues and Procrastination

2:24 to 3:52

Discussion about dental health, procrastination, and personal anecdotes.

“Because I would have assumed it was early in life.”

Teeth Regrowth Technology

3:52 to 4:54

Exploration of new technology that claims to regrow teeth.

“But yeah, the printer's saying they can regrow teeth.”

Surgery Gone Wrong and Medical Ethics

4:54 to 6:15

Discussion about controversial medical practices and ethics in surgery.

“Like, I'd prefer if they could regrow something, like, better.”

Caught in the Act: A Surgeon’s Scandal

6:15 to 10:53

A scandal involving a surgeon engaging in inappropriate behavior during surgery.

“Do you ever see those operations where doctors leave like tea towels and shit inside patients.”

Humor on Bestiality

10:53 to 11:30

Light-hearted jokes and discussions about the topic of bestiality.

“Joe, I'd like a man who has had sex with a horse on this podcast next week or I quit.”

Auntie Duties and Family Dynamics

11:30 to 13:19

Joanne shares her experiences visiting her friend's children and their requests.

“This is the first time that you've actually had your hair and makeup done for the pod.”

Life Mantras and Philosophical Thoughts

13:19 to 14:01

Discussion on life mantras and the unpredictability of life.

“She said hi to Joanne and then she was on this thing called a diddy car and she kind of scooted over to me and she goes, why is Joanne's hair black.”

Shishi's Unexpected Fitness

14:01 to 14:36

Learn about Shishi's surprising running achievements at Run Club.

“She's only like long blonde that's all she wants.”
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Life Mantra: Hit by a Bus

14:37 to 15:28

Discover a quirky new life mantra that encourages seizing the moment.

“I promised her a pair of running shoes and she might want to go then.”

Screen Time Confessions

15:29 to 16:51

Explore the hosts' shocking screen time statistics and reflections on phone usage.

Habitual Phone Use and Social Media

16:52 to 18:42

Discussion on how phone habits can affect personal life and mental health.

“What are your quals I'm 4.38 average what?”

Journey to Sobriety

18:43 to 20:41

Hear about one host's decision to give up drinking and the challenges that come with it.

Navigating Social Drinking Pressures

20:42 to 22:31

Understand the social pressures surrounding alcohol consumption during events.

“I'll end up having a glass of something after the Apollo for sure but like but I'm not doing it's the Apollo come on it's the Apollo I'm not doing that anymore.”

Fashion Week Tales

22:32 to 23:32

Delve into the hosts' experiences at London Fashion Week and their reflections on self-image.

Embracing Midlife Quirks

23:33 to 26:41

Explore how aging affects self-perception and the humorous moments that come with it.

“I've started, you know when you're young and you're like, you're quite self-conscious when you're young and you don't want to look like a fool or whatever.”

Elton John's Unique Fashion Choice

26:42 to 28:00

Discuss the strange yet intriguing choice of wearing a kneecap as jewelry.

“My next amount of transport is a mobility scooter.”

Elton John's Unusual Fashion Choices

28:00 to 30:10

Discussion about Elton John's kneecap necklace and the absurdity of wearing body parts as fashion.

Personal Stories of Teeth and Keepsakes

30:10 to 32:38

The hosts share personal experiences related to teeth, keepsakes, and the significance of childhood items.

“Like, my mom still has Alexander's teeth, obviously, because he was the ray of sunshine.”

The Morbid History of Dentures

32:38 to 33:58

A fascinating dive into the dark history of dentures and the practice of using soldiers' teeth.

“There's museums that they have those dentures in.”

Courtroom Drama and Pet Custody

33:58 to 36:28

Discussion about bizarre courtroom cases involving custodial disputes over pets and unusual possessions.

“I'm like, she's there, look at her wave, she's quiet.”

Aging and Its Unfiltered Realities

36:28 to 42:01

Conversations on aging, relationships, and the surprising behaviors of older people.

“Well then, I'm sorry, can you just please stop calling it a labubu?”

Aging and Aggression

42:01 to 42:58

Exploring the concept of aggression in the elderly and a shocking murder case.

Nursing Home Insights

42:59 to 43:46

Discussion about nursing home conditions and the need for alternatives.

“Well, she would have had to have taken the wheelchair apart to kill your one.”

Friendship and Care

43:47 to 44:16

A lighthearted take on friendship and promises to care for one another.

“and you make sure that I'm never in a nursing home.”
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0:02This is a Global Player original podcast.

0:14Joanne McNally:This is exciting. It is exciting. We've never done a competition on the podcast before Vogue, but that is about to change. The prize is this. It's you. On Saturday 18th of October 2025, just in case anyone was querying the year. You'll be coming to the Event of Apollo in London with two tickets to my sold-out show, Pinafile. Then you'll come backstage and have a drink at Vogue and I. You'll also, by the way, you'll also get a night in a hotel near the Event of Apollo and we're going to throw in£150 cash towards your travel costs. That's very generous of us. Also, wait, oh, well, I'm sorry about this.

0:51Also, a ghosted merch bundle and a copy of Big Mouth thrown in.

0:56Joanne McNally:Why not? The competition is to help raise money for global's Make Some Noise, which funds vital life-changing projects across the UK, delivered by small local charities with the aim of making sure nobody is left facing life's toughest challenges alone. Projects tackle a wide range of issues, including bereavement, food poverty, domestic abuse, homelessness and loneliness. This is only open to residents of the UK aged 18 and over and who are based in the UK at the time of entry. For your chance to win, for you and a friend to grab a drink with us, then two tickets to see Joanne's paenophile show on Saturday the 18th of October 2025 at the event of Apollo in London text GHOST G-H-O-S-T to 82200 By entering you'll have the chance to make a voluntary £5 donation which will be added to your phone bill 100 % goes to Globals Make Some Noise You've got until 10am on Monday the 13th of October to enter Keep your phone handy we may be calling you Standard network rates apply you must be 18 or over to enter For full T's and C's, including prize date restrictions, visit makesomenoise.com forward slash win.

2:03Joanne McNally:So text GHOST to 82200.

2:13I went to go and get my flu jab last week and they sneered at me. I was far too early. I'm way too excited about getting it. And they were like, sorry, not available yet.

2:23Joanne McNally:Do you mean early in life or early in the season? Because I would have assumed it was early in life. I thought they'd be like, come back when you're 58, 60. It's early in the season, supposedly. I go to somewhere where you have to pay for it. So I don't put any pressure on the NHS if anyone wants to give it to me. And they refuse to take my money. They wouldn't take the goddamn money. Surely it's not even, what is it? It's September. Like, it's still hot outside. There's people in shorts and t-shirts and stuff. that's very organised although this is the woman if it was on the go in July I'd go yeah this is the woman who booked her panto tickets two years in advance or certainly 12 months yeah Jesus I haven't booked my panto tickets this year I'd be on I'd be on my deathbed from tuberculosis and I'd be like fuck I'm gonna take that flu job I'm always after the fact everything has to fall apart like I had a I had I was on the road I was in Plymouth I was in between oh I saw that Guilford and Plymouth and one of my teeth started acting up.

3:24Joanne McNally:Remember I was saying to you? Remember I was on the pod saying? Anyway, it turns out a filling had fallen out but it was a temporary filling because I'm supposed to get a root canal but obviously I haven't gone back to get the root canal so I had to wait until everything fell apart then I'd get an emergency dentist in the middle of the night and look like a Bell's palsy for half a show because I won't do anything ahead of time whereas if that was you, Vogue, you'd have had a full set of new teeth done within seven months of the root canal. I mean, particularly when it comes to teeth, I am in there like that's done there's no waiting around for the teeth absolutely not I even have listen I've got I don't know if you're allowed to have it but like I've got a couple of prescriptions in the in the cover there just in case I have one for a UTI yeah well you need that women need that yeah yeah yeah I meant to say to you you know the way I like a bit of sci-fi science well science is science science fiction science they're they think they've invented something that can regrow teeth careful where you put it I mean yeah do you know what I mean the other way when you tan and then your arms are your hands are all brown and all imagine teeth going out of your palms or anywhere else you'd be like a cat cats have spikes down there yeah and they just claw in oh no it's the penis that has the spikes when I commit to my celibacy era I will grow a set of teeth down there just in case I decide one night to give up my sexual pioneering I'll be like no no It's no longer a safe space.

4:51Joanne McNally:It's a rat trap. But yeah, the printer's saying they can regrow teeth. Would that be great news? I don't know if it's the best news. Like, I'd prefer if they could regrow something, like, better. Well, that's because you have teeth. Yeah, but we don't need teeth. Like, I mean, can they work on growing something? Well, we do, but we don't absolutely need them. Like, I'd rather work on hearts or something. Well, they are still working on cancer. Do you not remember your man? There was a Netflix series about him. it was very interesting I watched it on a true crime doc a while back and now it's obviously it's hit Netflix because all great things do this female journalist who dated this doctor who was ahead of his time with heart surgery and he was putting what he was he was fixing fixing in inverted commas turns out he wasn't really fixing them like kind of extra kind of external bits and bobs picky bits into people's he was putting picky bits into people's bodies to help fix their hearts and stuff but it turns out he was literally going down the hardware store and like buying like valves and stuff.

5:52Joanne McNally:Tubes and stuff. Yeah. Putting them in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like tapping away. But his argument is I needed to push the boat because if you don't push the boat you don't know what works. The family's argument was you could have told us you were taking picky bits from the hardware store and now our family's dead. Anyway, yeah. Oh, they died so it didn't even work. No, it didn't work. No, no, no. It didn't work. None of them survived it. No. Do you ever see those operations where doctors leave like tea towels and shit inside patients. Do you see that? It's like, how did you forget? I suppose it is a bit of a mumble jumble down there with the intestines and shit the size of football pitches.

6:28It's like... A sponge

6:29Joanne McNally:here and there I can understand, but like a stethoscope, you're like, come on now, I will sue. Did you see the story about the Dr. Rees-Di and it kind of, I was like, I don't know what the morals here are. The doctor who had a ride in the middle of a surgery. no what do you mean he had a ride with who I know with who I know it's not no no okay that's okay then that's okay then with the anaesthetist no once it wasn't the patient it wasn't the patient that's yeah it's completely acceptable completely if it wasn't the patient yeah Grant why are we even talking about it why are we letting why are we always giving out about yeah for god's sake he could be in there 24 hours He was nipping down to the hardware store to buy a bit of mop to put in the patient to soak up the blood.

7:19Joanne McNally:So basically he was having, this doctor, the surgeon was having it. He was a married man, of course, but he was having an affair with someone else who worked in the hospital and he left the surgery, mid-surgery. As you do, he's like, I need to go to the bathroom. So like, you know, sticker on pause kind of thing. I'll be back. And then bumped into his mistress in some sort of airing cupboard or a plantometer. And someone walked in and he had his pants down and he was tucking himself inside his mistress. but they were like are you not supposed to be in surgery so of course then it all came out kind of sexy isn't it no anyone else turned on no I wouldn't deny I wouldn't just go to the loo I don't care I'm asleep you know it's not like it wasn't in the room and he was sorry you're saying you'd let somebody leave your operation you'd be like I'd just come back I'm like give me a break yeah I'm wrecked getting dragged around from the insides by you I'd like a little breather as well Go and do what you need to do Release yourself I do feel that men are focused more Well anyway They're kind of saying they don't know what to do with him really Because he hasn't broken any law It's just kind of bad form Public indecency He's been outed anyway So obviously he's mortified Yeah I think that would be embarrassing But I think when men get caught wanking On cameras And it always happens or they're wanking in the wrong face.

8:43I was reading a book and I actually thought it was real because I forgot it was a book about a guy being caught in his office wanking. I just think it's really embarrassing to be caught wanking by anyone for a man. Like anyone. Imagine your wife walked in, Jo. It's just like, it's so shameful.

8:57Joanne McNally:Donna Porter had a book. The Cows, I think. The Cows. Yeah, Cow, Cow. Yeah. The Cows, which was about a woman caught masturbating on a train. So women do it too. Yeah. I think people do it everywhere. I read an article the other day that suggested, especially, I mean, it was about men. They do it everywhere. Men do. In hedges, because like people who work outdoors, just all over the, in other people's houses, at work. I can hold off till I'm in private. I can just, I feel like I can hold off. I can. I don't need to, like, it would be too humiliated. It would be very difficult for me to come back from something like that because I'd be so embarrassed.

9:39Joanne McNally:I think we can, a woman can can hold off Jo I think that's I think that's ultimately the difference So can a man in fairness you're just grim that you just want to get it out everywhere Is it like a scratch Jo? Is it like an itch? What's it like? Is it like when I had rosacea? Is it like when I had eggs around my eyes? Is that what it's like? The way that the article put it suggested that there's just no waiting and there's and why be ashamed? I think you know if you're an itch well that's exactly Exactly. Ah, come on. If you're outside in a field, come on. Just be a bit ashamed. Just fucking wait till he get home.

10:16Yeah, shame's not a bad thing. No, shame's important. And leave the sheep and the horses alone, men. Leave them alone. Sickos. Sickos.

10:27Joanne McNally:Christ. Anyway. Before we go into bestiality, which is, you know, one of my favourite topics. I would like to deep dive bestiality, to be honest with you, because I don't know that much about it. It's strange. It's people shagging animals. That's what I need to know, right? I know what it is, but like, I'd like to understand the science behind their minds. They're just lonely. Why? I don't understand why you would choose to have sex with your dog. Ask them. Get one on Never Live It Down. Get one on this. Joe, I'd like a man who has had sex with a horse on this podcast next week or I quit. Okay?

11:06Absolutely fine.

11:07Joanne McNally:Let's go for Louis Tarrou. Yeah, get one of your mates on, Jo. Oh my God, I'm going to do a whole show about bestiality, I think. Do you think, who could I pitch it? Channel 4 would take it. I reckon Channel 4 would take that. Big time. I'd lose my job on Lorraine. Yeah, you might be doing the carpet at the NTAs, but like, fuck that, who cares? You're shining a light on bestiality, and I think that is, you're doing God's work. I think that's way more important. It's my calling in life, really. It truly is.

11:43This is the first time that you've actually had your hair and makeup done for the pod. Remember we said we were going to do it every time they've actually seen?

11:58So Joanne called over to my house yesterday.

12:00Joanne McNally:And that, that, those poor children, Vogue. Those, thank God I went down. for reference I'm not drinking at the moment so I'm back in family mode so I went down to visit the children to remind them who I am well you did you actually came down to save me because I was like Joanne I've been with them all weekend on my own I've been to three parties I've been to swimming gymnastics please take me out for a walk yeah she needs to be saved I was like I'll knock in for you do you remember old school the way you'd knock in be like you coming out so I knocked in for and brought her out but when I went into the house the second I went in Theodore was in full mode of Joanne I was like if you want something from me Theodore calling me Joanna is not going to get a feel of Mummy won't let me have a snake Joanna will you tell Mummy to let me have a snake and Joanna was like yeah yeah I want to be the sound aunt do you know what I mean I was like yeah what do you need I'll get you a snake what do you want a rattle snake what do you need he was like do you think Auntie Joanne would get me a snake I'm like no she wouldn't because I would give out and he was like well how would she know I was like I've known her a long time I've known her longer than you.

13:06Joanne McNally:Do you know when kids ask you for things, you don't see them that often, you want to be sound. But I also don't want to interfere with parenting and I know that children shouldn't have snakes. But I agree to it anyway, so I won't be down. I won't be going down for a while. She as well. She said hi to Joanne and then she was on this thing called a diddy car and she kind of scooted over to me and she goes, why is Joanne's hair black. And I was like, what? And she's like, why is, and I was like, ask her. She goes, why is your hair black? I said, do you want me to dye my hair blonde again like your mama?

13:43Joanne McNally:And she said, yes. Yes. And then she said it to me again last night. She was like, will Joanne's hair not be black anymore? She doesn't like your hair colour. She hasn't hit her emo phase yet. Well, the second she hits her emo phase, me and her are going to be thick as thieves. She's in her Barbie phase at the moment. She's only like long blonde that's all she wants. Do you know what she did today? She came to Run Club I couldn't believe my eyes. Did she get off her arse? She ran the entire way and at the end of it Stop! Yes and at the end of it one of her friends was like kind of laughing that Shishi was there as well because it is kind of interesting to know that she'd be at Run Club and he was like I don't know if you'll be able to do it Shishi and she beat him.

14:29Joanne McNally:You see you don't know we thought we had a lazy drag baby but maybe we have a fitness sporty baby. Ah, well, no. At the end, she said, I don't want to go to a run club again. I don't blame her. But we'll see. I promised her a pair of running shoes and she might want to go then.

14:47I have a new mantra in life. Do you want to hear it? Okay. I just keep saying it about everything. And I keep saying it to people. Like, Amber was like to me, she went out on Friday and she's like, oh, will I go out on Saturday? And I was like, yeah. You could get hit by a bus. I could get hit by a bus. It's all I say now. I'm like oh I don't want to do that but I could get hit by a bus oh I shouldn't have champagne at a kids party but I could get hit by a bus a bus yeah so that's what I say about everything

15:12Joanne McNally:hopefully you do and then everything you do will have been worth it I hope I'm not manifesting does that mean I'm manifesting in touch wood I don't want to be but I'm just like I'm such a busy bee at the moment I'm being very social and I'm like it's all down to I could be hit by a bus And you could well You genuinely could be hit by a bus That's the truth of the matter And I cycle There's loads of buses where you live There's loads of buses You're always on your phone Excuse me Don't out me Speaking of phones Oh yeah yeah Joanne asked us to tell us Now obviously I don't know how to do things like this So I just type in screen time yeah Mine had social entertainment And then I had business 1 % and I don't know what it's taking business as what's your social Joanne daily average actually I don't think it's that bad nine hours seven minutes

16:13seems a lot

16:14Joanne McNally:I'm single with no kids folk I've nothing else to do I've no purpose sorry nine what 19 minutes is that just the social 9 hours 7 minutes No it's not just social Oh no okay okay okay So average now is entertainment 5 hours 41 social 1 hour 49 That's actually not that bad Social's not that bad I thought you'd be worse with the TikTok to be honest Productivity and finance 25 minutes Yeah but Joanne your business dealings Are on social so That's so true you're my business dealer What are your quals I'm 4.38 average what? oh my god I hate myself why am I on it for 9 hours a day? because you're on tour because you're on tour and you're in a car that's honestly why I'm not just trying to make excuses for you but when I'm filming a TV show and I have loads of hanging around and I'm on train loads it's like fucking 7 hours it's never 9 hours 9 hours Jo I'm not well how many hours in a day?

17:24I'm not well 12 hours If I'm hung over I could be 15 hours Not 15 If I'm hung over I could be 7 hours that day 9 is impressive Wow

17:35Joanne McNally:You win the medal if that helps Wow What are you on WhatsApp? I'm up at 100 Like as in it's maxed out It's kind of spasming here now WhatsApp is at 100 Hours I don't know it just says 100 Gmail 38 Hinge 9 Thread 6 TikTok 6 Hinge 9 Okay no I have to That's because I'm off the drink And I'm trying So I'm like I might as well Try and meet someone I have to be honest with you Most of the time I'm 6 hours This is a good couple of weeks I mean most of the time I'm 6 hours So I will admit that

18:15God I need to get off Let's all get off our phones Let's all try and cut an hour Let's try and cut an hour Let's try and cut Get off your phone And let's try and cut an hour off that. Jesus Christ, I feel bad now. I feel bad. I could get hit by a bus and I'm just on my phone the whole time.

18:30Joanne McNally:But being on your phone is going to up the chances of you getting hit by a bus. Yeah. I don't have time to get hit by a bus. I'm on my phone too much. I literally don't have time to go out and get hit by a bus. Nine. I'm like, no, I'm uploading.

18:47Joanne McNally:Tell me a bit about your week. We never do that anymore. I'd like to know. What about my week? Well, I'm on the drive. now this is this is big news now in fairness especially when it comes around the touring it's very boozy very wet I chose the worst time to go on the drive but I'm so proud of you I woke up one day and I woke up one morning and I was hung over and I lost my phone in the flat is this my rock bottom I don't know it seems quite innocent yeah I lost my I know yeah you'd want me to be like puking in a bin or something yeah This seems actually totally fine I realised it had gone too far When I lost my phone I lost my phone in the flat But it was gone for like a solid 20 minutes Your phone ran away from you Because it was so tired

19:39Joanne McNally:I'm sober folk I have nothing else to do Quick hi She's coming Those fucking hands The buttons are just burnt out They've just melted into the back of the phone Yeah I woke up I'd no that was what happened I burnt my thumb off from scrolling my thumb my fingerprint is gone it's like you can't be identified I lastly found the flat and I was so annoyed at myself because I had brain fog from drinking on the tour the night before and I just got so frustrated with myself and it took me I'd say 20 minutes to find the phone and that weirdly I don't know why that just snapped me I was like I'm sick of this I'm sick of my own shit I'm just sick of it so yeah so I was like right no more booze no worries for a month and then I was like oh giving up booze for October do you want groundbreaking forgetting because I was like I was online being like I want to be accountable I'm off for the month and someone goes so you're doing so in October like everyone else I was like yep yep yep yep yep yep sorry no sorry my birthday we're doing my birthday you said you were only doing it till then yes I'm doing a month and I'm also I'm in the Apollo this weekend and I know for a fact I'll end up having a glass of something after the Apollo for sure but like but I'm not doing it's the Apollo come on it's the Apollo

20:50Joanne McNally:I'm not doing that anymore. I feel like, I genuinely feel like I've turned a corner. I don't know why. I don't know where it's coming from. I really do. And then a friend of mine was like, oh God, are you going to make not drinking for a month being your whole personality? And I was like, yeah. No. Do you know what the really sad part of being on the dry? Firstly, realising how often you tip away when you're on the road. Like, the amount of time you just go, no thanks, no thanks, no thanks. And, I feel I'm sorry now I feel bad on my fellow Lushes to say this I feel unreal I do I feel unreal but I will say I'm not the only smug bitch here no I find it post show I find it like I'm white knuckling it yeah I'm like I have to tell Kylie I was like take the wine out of my dressing room because whenever I go into a dressing room there's a bottle of wine there on ice take it out and like Garel said if you saw me having a drink after the show I would slap it out of my hand and slap my face.

21:50I do think that you've chosen a really difficult time to do it. So I think that you're doing really well because of that, especially because of that. And I think even I would want to have a drink after a show.

22:00Joanne McNally:You know what it's like, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's very hard. But also I have to take responsibility for myself. And, you know, like I'm going to be touring, hopefully for the next 30 years of my life. So there's always going to be an excuse. I needed a really girthy circuit breaker that's what I needed and I'm having a circuit breaker and I feel amazing but I don't know like but yeah anyway I'm not going to make a huge big deal out of it she says having just made a massive deal out of it I don't think you are but I do think there's a lot of people that are just trying to drink a little bit less and it does like I like getting pissed I do like going out and drinking but it really makes me feel terrible it makes me feel terrible about myself for days it doesn't make me feel good even though I like doing it at the time I think just doing it more in moderation like what are they called the ones behind us millennials or what are they called Gen Z Gen X Gen Z yeah they're all at that well I definitely I think living on your own anyone I know who lives on their own would say that they think that they have bad habits around booze not everyone some people don't at all but I think if you live on your own and you're single there is alcohol is it's like a little pal almost it becomes like your mate you're like watch the TV have a glass of wine blah blah blah and so I'm just trying to break those habits yeah you know well we're very happy for you well done you've never looked better thank you I do look good don't I now I have had my hair and my professionally done but yeah that's just no drinking nothing to do with Liv Davey being here for two hours this morning

23:35Joanne McNally:nothing at all oh I saw you I was like oh great I have to record with her later that's my life with you hardly every day with my Pinot Cortezom all face

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23:55did you see what I did last week I got up to loads of stuff go on I was at London Fashion Week I went did you go I went I was at London only one thing though oh yeah but I still but I still went

24:08Joanne McNally:I can I tell you something before you forget yeah I'm at the point in my life I've realised that you bring up London Fashion Week and I hate to cut across you but you've reminded me of something. I've started, you know when you're young and you're like, you're quite self-conscious when you're young and you don't want to look like a fool or whatever. Yesterday I was cycling around town and I parked my bike and I was walking around and I realised I still had my helmet, right? So I still had my helmet on and I was like, wow. Like there was a time I wouldn't even wear my helmet on the bicycle because I was like, I'd rather die than be seen to be wearing this hideous plastic bowl on my head.

24:45Joanne McNally:Whereas now, 42, I'm literally wearing it to save myself having to carry it. Like I don't give a shit. And so I was walking through London town. They do make cooler helmets, I'm just saying. Listen, you choose what helmets you want. But you've chosen, it's a strange Yoshi. Now what's your round thing? Oh, you don't think mine's cool? I think you look a bit like Toad. So you'd rather I die, Bug, is that it? I was just surprised in your choice of helmet when I saw it yesterday Wow a lot of shade coming through the little mini micro camera there I might get one of those ones that you wear around your neck and it explodes if you crash it just kind of comes to fruition Oh yeah But I was plodding around in the helmet anyway and I was plodding through London and I realised I was walking through a London Fashion Week event I think it was the H &M event Yeah yeah yeah yeah I was like god everyone's so cool and then I realised I was that L one walking past the camera where these two like Olsen twin types were getting into it and I walked past wearing my cycling helmet in my gym gear with my backpack on with the wires all coming out of it as they usually do and I was like oh my god I'm this is such a middle aged moment and I'm kind of like looking back at the camera and I'm being nosy do you know what I mean I'm kind of like trying to see what it is and all of them.

26:09Joanne McNally:They're all like wearing these kind of like rubber outfits and like huge big... Well, I actually saw you outside and I just didn't think it was the right time to say hello, but I did. I saw you. I thought I saw you, yeah. Bo! Bo! I don't know her. I don't know her. No, honestly, I don't know who she is. Yeah. But I didn't even feel like a loser there. I met my friend Karina who's been my stylist since I was like 17 and I met her and we were just having a nice time at the party and it was... Everyone was nice. The clothes were lovely and I had a great time and then I went home an hour later because I don't know what everyone else does fashion known stays or whatever so when well I want H &M to know that when I do appear in your background footage A I want to be and B the helmet was ironic okay I know I know fashion okay I just want I was caught out on that day you'll be catching her on a micro scooter next wait you wait she'll slagging me about the micro scooter you're going to want one they do neons the scooter the scooter the push scooter that I have oh No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

27:10I don't know about that you want. The helmet would suggest otherwise.

27:13Joanne McNally:My next amount of transport is a mobility scooter. I want to start a gang called the Pinot Wheelers, but no one's listening to me. I am not easily appalled. I'm not squeamish. Anyone who's seen the inside of my fridge knows that. There's nothing in there. There's some grouts in there.

27:36Joanne McNally:That's rotten. I'm taking the piss what I mean is I'm not scared I'm not scared of a bit of culture on a top for yogurt you know I have a morbid fascination I once took out my own stitches with the gold hoop backstage in the stand in Glasgow out of my foot oh no oh god remember the foot oh that's the worst injury I think that I've ever known of it was awful Garel said it was like watching someone pull out their own tooth I was like I had to pluck out the stitches remember I stood in a gin glass anyway but when I read the story about Elton John wearing his own kneecap as a necklace and a brooch I felt physically sick and that coming from me Have you seen it?

28:17Yeah

28:18Joanne McNally:I think it looks kind of stunning there's diamonds all over it Well it's just like Elton should not have enough icebreakers like with all your career shit and all that you need to be wearing your kneecaps come on Well maybe he just really rates himself and didn't want to find any of himself chucked in the bin I reckon it's fame gone mad if I was wearing my tonsils as earrings people would like people would say something do you know what I mean but he gets away with it because he's Elton John it's a bone though so I feel like a bone slightly different like I nearly got a necklace made out of my breast milk but Amber threw it out stupid asshole good work I might never get any more I was gonna okay fine it's only breast milk do you know that saying where they go oh look in the mirror and take off one piece of jewellery take off your breast milk brooch and he needs to take his kneecap off just go down to Claire's accessories like everyone else I just don't know because I have a necklace that has all the kids fingerprints on it and last week it's from a brand called Philippa Herbert she's amazing so I want to give her a little shout out but I bought I bought I bought one last week for Winston so I got like they sent you a pack and I did Winston's paw he's still alive by the way he's still alive but I have his paw his paw's going to be on a necklace well that's that's different that's not trying to turn your cartilage into couture fashion that's different that's a memory that's different I just feel like if I was rocking around with my appendix as a brooch if I wasn't Elton John people would be like oh she's insane she's obviously smearing her bedroom walls with her own faeces at night there's a certain there's a certain like megalomania to it and I love Elton John but I just there was something and like I say it takes a lot to make me recoil and I and I recoiled mentally physically I did nothing I didn't move at all as I tend not to but mentally there was a mental recoiling I was like ah Elton that's too much I said to myself I said that is too much it's very rare I say that yeah I mean I just I'm not I just think it's Elton John so he can do what he wants yeah that's the thing like we haven't reached Elton John's status we may never reach that status like if Madonna I don't know if Madonna I don't know pulled just hung anything on a necklace you'd be kind of fine with it it wouldn't even have to be her own body part she could like get a body part of like I don't know her current boyfriend and just pop it around her neck wouldn't know him with batting eyelids it's Madonna when I woke up from having my wisdom teeth out I asked for them and they said they said no they flat out refused yeah they said no you can't have them now I think they were like you're not out on John yeah yeah yeah why is it okay to keep baby teeth and not adult teeth why is adult teeth weird baby teeth can't keep everyone's fine everyone's fine with that I mean I feel like you keep stuff like that for a while and then you're like, God, why did I keep it?

31:06Like, my mom still has Alexander's teeth, obviously, because he was the ray of sunshine. Doesn't have any of our teeth. And I'm like, what are we going to do with Alexander's rotten little baby teeth? Like, who wants to see them? Remember, I was saving the umbilical cord. It was just like this long scab sitting in my serums.

31:23Joanne McNally:I guess it's because it's to do with your children that you're like, oh, this is sweet in a way. I threw the scabs out. And should you know, when they pulled out your wisdom teeth and you asked her probably like who the fuck does she think she is I'll judge I'll regret this you'll regret this blood pouring everywhere because it just opened my mouth do you know the first do you know the first set of dentures teeth I mean if you're into that kind of thing they have like the dentures and braces have a very interesting history so they used to go around the soldiers who were killed in World War 1 or the French what revolution all that stuff they'd go around and pull the teeth out of soldiers yeah dead soldiers and then they'd make Oh my God, that's desperate.

32:05Joanne McNally:Like a set of fake teeth with them. They'd all be individual dead people's teeth. Yeah, and then they said Do you know how hard it is to pull a tooth out? I know! Sometimes they'd be pulling teeth out and they were saying that soldiers weren't fully dead yet. So imagine you're lying there on the war field. Jesus Christ. War, whatever. War zone. What's it called? War field? War land? Battlefield. Battlefield. And you're dying anyway. You're in significant pain and then some prick comes along with the pliers and pulls your fucking teeth out. That's grim. And everyone's like, thanks for your service.

32:37Oh my God. They have those dentures.

32:39Joanne McNally:There's museums that they have those dentures in. Yeah, I know. And you'd have to take out the whole mouth because you couldn't just have an array of different people's teeth. You'd have to do a full mouth. Ah, a full mouth. I'm pretty sure I've seen Mary Antoinette's braces in a museum, but I could be making that up. But I know she had terrible teeth and before she married your man Louis, they put braces on her to try and fix her mouth. Google her there, Jo. Jeez, how bad were her teeth? Terrible. Everyone had bad teeth in those days. Yeah, but you know, there was no such thing as dentists, except you just ripped them out.

33:11No, Mary Antoinette's braces made from metal horseshoe-shaped arch invented by Pierre Fauchat are not known to be in a museum.

33:20Joanne McNally:Maybe not the museums you can get into, Jo. Oh, right, okay, fine. God, it's usually me who does the fake news. I'm operating on a higher level. The only artefacts of her body are her hair. Kneecaps. A death mask. Kneecaps. What's her death mask? What's that mean? Before they had photos, they used to mould people's faces when they died so they'd have an image of them dead. Wasn't that right? Is that right? I don't think I want anyone to see me dead. Oh, I'll be getting a death mask off you, don't you worry. No. To keep the podcast going. The bus got her in the end. Yeah. I'm like, she's there, look at her wave, she's quiet.

33:59Joanne McNally:She just has a lot of news this week. She's fine. Just the way Joanne likes it. Yeah. Less out of you. Finally. What's a death mask, Jo? Yeah, you're right. It's a plaster, wax or metal cast made from the face of a dead person to preserve their appearance. No. That's very morbid now. I think that it's very, like, I just feel like, I was having this conversation with my cousin and Amber in a group chat and we were just thinking, like, I don't know if I want everyone to see the bodge. You're not in your best state of mind and like I don't want anyone touching me when I'm not there you do I think it's part of the closure I think people need to see the body if you're in good shape which you are Vogue if you want I always get a fright to see the body I'll drag your cadaver over to John Belton for a last session that would actually suit me get the abs popping yeah and now that Bear by Vogue have started spray tans we are sorted I'll just chuck you up in the treadmill for a while I'm just dragging along

35:11Joanne McNally:next week I want to talk about the vagus nerve if that's okay isn't it the vagus nerve oh that makes sense I don't talk about it anymore

35:29I wanted to talk to you about something that you actually sent to the group of the couple who in 1999 were divorcing each other. And they had to sit in the courtroom and they had a Beanie Baby collection worth$5 ,000 but couldn't split it themselves. So had to do it in front of a judge. Imagine that you actually had to drag. I really don't think they should get divorced because if there's two people who love beanie babies that much I mean you're not going to find anyone else

36:03Joanne McNally:the fact like if you have found someone as weird as you in that situation I would go to a therapist and I would make that work they're on their hands and knees in court separating what looks like a thousand beanie babies what could have torn them apart I just don't understand it because there is nobody else who would maybe someone set first their troll collection or I just don't know their Sylvainian families got lost in the something something else toy related but it's like that jelly cat do you see jelly cat and people are queuing for hours two and a half hours to buy jelly cats in the UK they're those like Otty has those of the bunnies he loves the little bunnies and but like just new jelly cats that come out full adults are buying these teddy bears I'm happy to say I know nothing about the jelly cat community but I will say Vogue now that you've brought it up I know what you're going to say I didn't want to it's embarrassing for you it is embarrassing for me I've done a full 180 I'd be the worst politician in the history of my mind remember how certain I was about I was so critical of the the boo boo thing just landfill it's fucking nonsense well well well to say I've turned a corner yeah now I've now tried to start introducing them into my work so I can write them off as a tax expense.

37:26Joanne McNally:Did you buy real ones? No! Well then, I'm sorry, can you just please stop calling it a labubu? It's not a labubu, it's a lafufu. That's not a labubu. You cheap bitch. I bought it out of a service station on the M3. It's not a labubu, it's a labufu. And if you were slagging me off, and if you hadn't been such a cow about my labubus, I would give you a real one. Focus 2025, if my labubu wishes to identify as a real labubu, it has the right to do that. If you're Le Foo Foo on Star Trek. If you're looking for paperwork etc well then you are a fascist. Have you seen Have you seen the outfits that you can get for them?

38:07Well I don't know if you can get some for Le Foo Foo's but I know you can get them for Le Boo Boo's. I haven't. What? A Le Boo Boo clothes. They all get clothes. Yes. I'm going to get my Le Boo Boo clothes just to annoy you. Look at this Jo.

38:21Joanne McNally:I stuck a Le Boo Boo on a spatula. La foo foo La foo foo Folks stop Stop being such a snob About it please I'm not being a snob But you just have to be Honest about it The head goes round Look Because it's A la booboo Because it's A la booboo From a petrol station It's not a la booboo From the real La booboo website Thank you Thank you Because I can't work like this And you just Like a I stuck a spatula Up at Zara I was doing a Fake therapy session This morning For some actors And I'm I felt this kind of added a certain amount of pizzazz to the event and like I said now we can write it off for tax oh yeah entirely anything you see me carrying around in a work capacity I'm trying to write off for tax whether that be Vogue or a house

39:10Joanne McNally:I need this for work yeah it was when I was my ninth LeBoubou I was like okay Joanne we're going to have to try and write some of these expenses off stick a spatula up it's ours bring it to work they're very cute though I just I mean do you know when you're like do you want just fucking you know I'll give you I'll give you adopt an orphan or some shit yeah Louis Vuitton are bringing out designer designer when I saw that couple splitting up the beanie babies I said that could easily be me in Vogue in 10 years time easily yeah two more things I wanted to tell you about because when I saw those people there were two farmers once right this is a cow custody case for people divorcing right there was two farmers in Romania and they went to court over who owned a cow and the cow got brought into the courtroom.

39:56Come on. Oh no, no, no, no. And asked to walk to their mummy and daddy. And it moved and walked to one of the farmers and the judge ruled in that farmer's favour. Do you know, I used to do that game with one of my exes with our dog. I'd be like, come here, come here Rocco. Come to me, come to me to see who the dog liked more. Don't ever do that with Spencer because they don't even know he exists. It's not really a win.

40:21Joanne McNally:it's not really a win there yeah they'd actually get frightened if you started calling them they'd be like oh what's going on here they're like stranger danger stranger danger I can understand though if you're in a relationship along to a marriage and stuff and you something that you that's why I always feel like couples who share pets and then you're kind of dropping pets up and down and then the new relationships involved and it's all a bit of a pain in the arse you're better off owning everything by yourself and staying alone again I keep saying it I keep saying it what because of pets because of pets.

40:52Joanne McNally:If you buy something together that is sentient as such and then you share it and people are obviously very attracted whoops because you were fucking told by PCL earlier attached to their pets. There was another judge right in 2012 in Texas two feuding neighbours were told by a judge to hug it out and they refused and then the judge made them shake hands and say have a nice day. So that's a bit of courtroom drama for you. Sorry, speaking of courtroom drama did you see the 89 year old woman who was arrested for murdering her roommate in her nursing home with a part of her own wheelchair I actually removed that from the notes because I thought it was too depressing

41:37Joanne McNally:see this is what happens when Vogue's in control she takes all the good shit out I just thought oh god that's a bit dark I was wondering where my main story went I was like Pete that's a bit dark can I look it up and see what's happening I think she was 99 but I know somebody who was taking an older woman for dinner at this event and she hadn't been invited by the older women but this woman was 92 and then she went and she saw another woman who was like 88 and she goes oh I didn't know that bitch was here and the person taking them for lunch was like oh my god still at the age of like still going for each other I suppose anyone could drive you mad at any age really Ah, listen Like just because you get older Doesn't mean you go Well Zen and Dalai Lama If anything I'd say You get even hardcore Yeah, more hardcore Do you know you get harder Woman 95 Charged with killing 89 year old roommate In nursing home And do you know what The problem here is I realised My reaction is ageist Why can't old people kill Do you know what I mean Why can't an old woman kill She has the same right to kill As everyone else has Which is no right at all But I mean I mean the instincts Are clearly still there A witness found the suspect Washing her hands in a room splattered with blood sorry Vogue I know you took this out of the notes in a nursing home I found it in a nursing home in Coney Island, Brooklyn I mean it's just they're checking her mental health I mean it's according to the according to the criminal complaint a wheelchair inside the room where Miss Krastoff died had been partially disassembled and one of its footrests was on the floor covered in blood the other footrest the complaint said was outside the room on the ground below their window.

43:19Joanne McNally:Premeditated? Is this premeditated wheelchair murder? Well, she would have had to have taken the wheelchair apart to kill your one. Oh my God, jeez Louise. You think you know somebody? Seagate, the nursing home, has been the subject of several lawsuits in recent years. Wow. Wrongful death, negligence, statutory violations, avoidable injuries, infection, COVID-19. Oh my God. I'm telling you, this is why we need to set up the Pinot Wheelers. So no woman doesn't have to go to her nursing home. I'm going to rebrand the nursing home, join the Pinot Wheelers. I'll make sure that you're never in a nursing home and you make sure that I'm never in a nursing home.

43:49Jo, I'm sorry. We can't look after everybody. It's each. I need to know. I need to. I'll look after you. I'm much younger than you, so I will look after you.

44:02Joanne McNally:Thank you, Vogue. How kind. I see myself up in court for killing you as part of a crutch. And they used to be such good friends.

44:17Joanne McNally:That's it for this week. Make sure and get in touch if you want to. The email address is hello at mtgmpod.com. I've been Joanne McNally. She's been Vogue Williams. And Jo Atiwell. Nothing to add. That was great. Fantastic.

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