In short
The hosts banter about pregnancy/baby logistics and name drama (they remove a previously “full on” name and consider alternatives), then veer into weekly stories: hosepipe bans and gardening, AI chatbots being “dangerously reassuring,” bizarre news (a huge rat; bubble-gun bus driver), and viral/true-crime-adjacent commentary (Andrew Tate “tater tots,” incel protests, and the Chris Watts/serial-killer angle). They also discuss a BBC series about James Howells, who searched for a discarded hard drive with 8,000 Bitcoin in a Newport landfill.
Guests
No guests. The episode is just the hosts (Joanne and Vogue, plus “Spenny”/“Sven”/“Neil” mentioned as partners/family).
Key claims
Hosepipe bans are unfair; ChatGPT/AI can encourage unsafe ideas; “vegetables eating themselves” AI slop could be used for ISIS recruitment; landfill Bitcoin searches are futile.
Notable examples
James Howells’ lost 8,000 Bitcoin; Italy lotto ticket found in landfill; Mark Wright/Michelle Keegan’s scorched lawn; Andrew Tate’s supporters doing press-ups outside a Miami detention center; a 22-inch rat in a UK home.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBaby Name Reveal
0:05 to 0:27
Discussion about the baby name they considered and nesting behaviors.
“I have one wall in my house left to organise.”
Clutter and Cuffing Season
0:27 to 0:44
Talk about decluttering and cuffing season preparations.
Nipples and Areolas
0:44 to 1:04
A humorous exchange about body parts and modesty.
Disguise and Mosquitoes
1:04 to 2:18
One host explains why they're in disguise due to mosquito bites.
“If the nipples doesn't, it's once you see the nip, then it's a full exposure.”
Garden Guilt
2:18 to 2:58
Discussion about returning home and the state of their gardens.
“I have never ever seen you ready for the podcast.”
Watering Grass and Controversies
2:58 to 4:26
Debate about garden care under hosepipe bans and societal rules.
Memories of Childhood Playgrounds
4:26 to 6:54
Nostalgia for childhood experiences in pubs and playgrounds.
“Joanne, and I will spruce up those hydrangeas.”
Festival Dreams and Exhaustion
6:54 to 7:58
Sharing dreams of organizing a festival and waking up tired.
“And it's also very nice to be back in a weather climate that I don't have to put a guttering system between my legs because of the sweat.”
Respecting Parenthood
7:58 to 8:46
Expressions of respect for parents and the challenges they face.
“Like sometimes I have that kind of dreams.”
A Story of Lost Lotto
8:46 to 10:35
Discussion about a woman retrieving a lost lotto ticket from the bins.
“Do you remember the glory days in the 80s?”
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Bitcoin in the Landfill
10:35 to 12:35
Tale of a man searching for lost Bitcoin in a landfill and its consequences.
“and that's the only possible reason two of my bins weren't collected today.”
Bitcoin in the Landfill
14:01 to 14:52
Discussion about a man's lost Bitcoin in a landfill and the upcoming series.
“It's like, I don't know how you'd get over something like that.”
Advice on Cutting Losses
14:53 to 15:38
Conversation on the futility of searching for lost Bitcoin and giving advice to move on.
“If I saw him on Raya, I'd match with him immediately, get a metal detector and like lock in because that's, there's a long play there.”
Baby Name Controversy
15:39 to 16:28
Hosts discuss changing their baby name and family reactions to it.
“Well the fact that they're not calling the series Bincoin blows my mind I was like it's such an obvious name full of Bincoin No?”
Choosing the Right Name
16:29 to 18:12
Exploration of the implications of choosing a unique baby name and its weight.
“But now no one would say anything to me.”
Unconventional Name Choices
18:13 to 19:26
Discussion of alternative and unconventional names for the baby and their implications.
“I like it No, but I'm being totally honest.”
Humorous Alternatives for Baby Names
19:27 to 21:56
Light-hearted suggestions for quirky baby names and reactions to them.
“But no one, no one, You cannot tell a Scottish man called Neil that you're going to call your child Rocket.”
Naming a Child and Its Challenges
21:57 to 23:04
Discussion on the challenges and humor of naming a child and related experiences.
“Joanne I'm going to get okay Elvis will happen in my life too big it'll be something it will be a dog or something yeah for a dog exactly Zachley.”
Incels and Andrew Tate
23:05 to 24:20
Conversation about Andrew Tate and the societal impacts of incels.
“I'm just, sometimes you're like, this is going on ages now.”
Reactions to Controversial Figures
24:21 to 27:00
Discussion on the societal reactions to controversial figures and their supporters.
“Now bring in mind trafficking, rape allegations.”
Criminality and Charisma
27:01 to 28:00
Exploration of the appeal of criminals and the psychology behind it.
“They're trying to like beef it all up again.”
The Charisma of Criminals
28:00 to 29:02
Exploring why some individuals are attracted to criminals and serial killers.
“Wait, is this the man who took them out in the car?”
The Joy of a Bubble Gun
29:02 to 30:05
Discussing a London bus driver who brought joy to children with a bubble gun.
“Well, to kind of lift things up and also bring them down a little bit, did you see that story of the bus driver?”
Encountering an Unusual Rat
30:05 to 31:08
Sharing shocking stories about a massive rat found in Britain and mouse troubles.
“Did I tell you about during El Nino when El Nino was really piping hot?”
Mouse Infestation Woes
31:08 to 32:01
A humorous take on dealing with a mouse infestation and its implications.
“So Joanne Yeah Size of a little dog Are you sure that's not just a cat With a shit haircut?”
Chatbot Conversations Gone Wild
32:01 to 34:04
Discussing the quirks of using AI chatbots and their unpredictable responses.
“So you could tell it that you've, you could be like, hey, I'm trying to think of a situation for you.”
Dangerous Games from the Past
34:04 to 35:21
Recalling childhood games like chicken and their consequences.
“If you're bored, I can give you some genuinely chaotic but safe things to do instead.”
The Mysterious Jacked Rat
35:21 to 36:21
A humorous discussion about a seemingly fit rat and its implications.
“He won, but broke both his legs when he was four years old.”
Finding Alternatives to Screen Time
36:21 to 37:53
Suggestions for engaging activities to reduce screen time before a baby arrives.
“I've gotten, can I just say that I have gotten, and I, I hate admitting that I've been really bad on my phone.”
The Strange Connection Between AI and ISIS
37:53 to 41:48
Discussing the bizarre potential of AI-generated content and its dark uses.
“I have two adult friends who went to Irish college this summer what?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02This is a global production.
0:04Joanne McNally:We've changed our baby now. You're breadcrumbing our listeners now. You're going to have to. This is like what someone does. Oh my God. Oh no, I can't tell you. You're going to have to tell them. We were going to call the baby a**.
0:21I have one wall in my house left to organise. I went into nesting mode. it just came upon me two days ago where I can nothing safe nothing I nearly threw out the children yesterday there's nothing I'm like if there's any clutter it's gotta go I it's this it's the weirdest thing and it does happen and I'm literally like it all must go
0:46Joanne McNally:you're getting ready for a cuffing season it's do you do you marry people do cuffing season marry it's kind of frowned upon to do cuffing season if you're married but I don't know maybe I'll get involved just asking the question I don't know the rules it's not my world it's not my circus it's not my monkeys
1:03Vogue Williams:I might ask the question myself to Sven and see what he says maybe he'll be okay with it I don't know he is
1:09Joanne McNally:I'm very much preparing for I'm very much to show you full tits I'm just about to undo my top there by the way
1:18Vogue Williams:I'm in full disguise we saw full tits we just didn't see nipple Jo she'll show you the nipple later relax I accidentally flashed.
1:28Joanne McNally:If the nipples doesn't, it's once you see the nip, then it's a full exposure. But like the allololies, the allololies. Areolas. The areolas. Areolas. I always get confused with areolas. I mean, you can't miss them. And garlic sauce. Areolas and garlic sauce. What's the garlic sauce?
1:53Oh. Yeah. Yeah.
1:56Joanne McNally:Can I just say, for anyone watching the podcast, I am in full disguise because, as we know, my face got annihilated by mosquitoes. And they didn't even eat anything decent like my blephs. They just ate. I have huge pockmarks all over my face. So I don't wish to be seen. Well, hang on a second. I'm going to have to stop you there. I have never ever seen you ready for the podcast. Ever. This is your time. How dare you? This is what you're known for. How very dare you. The odd time.
2:33Vogue Williams:The odd time you'll decide to make an excuse. And I'm like, why today? And also, Joanne's been up since half six this morning. She's texted the group. So she's had time. It's 11 o 'clock. She's had time to put the face on.
2:46Joanne McNally:I don't know what I was doing. I was very busy all morning, but I could not tell you what I did. I was just kind of running rings around the garden I'm back from I'm back from my I was away for the guts of a month the garden is it's not looking good out there there was a there was a hosepipe ban there was a hosepipe ban it's not your fault do you know what when I was out there and I was riddled with guilt that the hyacinths have died and I was saying why didn't I know or understand that the the hydrangeas the hydrangeas are dead I said why didn't I understand or know that as an adult when you're running a house you have to ask people to come in and water your plants and feed your cats etc and I was like why didn't I do it oh my god I'm so annoyed at myself and then I remembered oh there's a house pipe one Mark Wright and Michelle Keegan got stung for it because
3:37Vogue Williams:someone took an aerial shot of their house and their lawn is like perfect and it's like this huge patch of green their garden looks amazing and then it's just scorched all around it and it's like oh have they not been following the hosepipe on I heard, my doctor told me my doctor told me that I, if I, now I have been abiding by the rules, the padding pool hasn't been out, it's away, it's gone, it's, I have I've been abiding by the rules, but my doctor told me, I don't
4:06Joanne McNally:have you been, what have you, you've been abiding, just let the record show I've been abiding
4:10Vogue Williams:I have been abiding the rules and my doctor told me that actually in my condition, I'm allowed to use my hosepipe because she doesn't want me carrying buckets of water. So there you go. I'll be around your house pronto. I'll come around tomorrow, Joanne, and I will spruce up those hydrangeas. I always buy your house today. She's at her camp. Thank you.
4:31Joanne McNally:Call into her. If you come over, the only chance I can save this garden is if your waters break in my company and I shove a mop bucket underneath you, collect the water. Okay. And then toss it all over the garden. Sorry, Michelle and Mark writes grass. I'm going to say this it's controversial but they're loaded maybe they just have really juicy grass no? Like does rich grass not stay longer no? No. Is it fake? No. No it's not fake grass. Although it looks fake. I did get quite a laugh out of that and I was like when we were doing the I saw it when I was working in Heart last week and I was like oh we probably shouldn't talk about that because Mark works here.
5:13But he doesn't work here.
5:15Vogue Williams:he works it hard
5:17Joanne McNally:but he doesn't work here perfect I like Michelle she's sound Michelle if you're listening she's a pod listener she's sound if you do go to prison for watering your grass I'll visit you
5:27Vogue Williams:I just feel like how have they not like it rains nearly all year here how on earth are we hosepipe banning and letting all the poor grass and all the lovely flowers die because we haven't like I don't know like can we just know for next year just like save more water please and then we can all just have green grass why didn't anyone think of that for God's sake you should be the minister of the environment
5:53Joanne McNally:at the end of the day we're being told to make decisions to choose like do you want to save your hyacinths or do you want to save an elderly person now obviously
6:03Vogue Williams:I can understand I would have gone hyacinths jokes they've had a good life If it depends on the age, are we talking 90? No, the old people.
6:19Joanne McNally:Me in the garden crying. You've had a good life. It's actually, it was the first holiday I've been, like as in I've been away for so long, I was actually kind of looking forward to coming home. No reflection on the holiday. I had a really nice time, but you know, and you're like, it's time. It's time to go home, put on a wash, hang some stuff out. Isn't it nice though when you come home and you're like, I actually really, now I don't, I used to have that feeling. I love the rental house. It's very nice that we're staying in. But like, I don't have the same feeling as I did when I lived in my apartment.
6:49But I like coming back to London or like when I go back to Dublin, I just feel like, oh, it is. It's so nice. It's so nice to love your home. Yeah.
6:57Joanne McNally:And it's also very nice to be back in a weather climate that I don't have to put a guttering system between my legs because of the sweat. Yeah, I still am getting that sweat. At one point, I was like, I'm going to have to get a gutter system priced up because I don't know how else. to control this leakage from the waist down. It's insane. I was going to put a pad under my bump because I was like, well, then it will just, because I stand up. I'll stand up from this and my shorts will be a bit wet. But it's not. I'll wet my pants, I promise. No, no. It will just be like sweat down there. Yeah, yeah.
7:33I know we don't like to talk about dreams, but I had a really disappointing dream last night because I was as busy as you were this morning in my dream. I was wrecked waking up because I hadn't stopped in the dream. I was organising to go to a festival and like I'd organised this amazing festival
7:48Vogue Williams:for me and like 10 of my friends and I woke up like fucking exhausted after doing it. I'd done everything for everyone and I woke up and I was like, that was sleep. Like that's what I was doing. Why can't I relax in my sleep? Yeah, that's a nightmare. Like sometimes I have that kind of dreams.
8:06Joanne McNally:Yeah, you're right. My reoccurring dreams. Like, Vogue, when I say I have so much respect for you as a mother of 3.5 children and Jo as a father of, well, you don't, no, I do respect fathers, obviously. Like, on this holiday that I was on with my school friends and there were seven children there. They're all gorgeous kids, like, no shade to the kids. But my God, it is full on. I was like, I need to take two volume every day to go to the beach. It's incredibly full on. Even this morning, I was dropping all the kids to camp. I'm like, this is taking me an hour and a half. One of the biggest losses of our generation is playgrounds and pubs.
8:44Joanne McNally:I've said it before and I'll say it again. What do you mean playgrounds? We still have playgrounds. In the pubs. Do you remember the glory days in the 80s? Your parents would drive you to the pub and they'd just turf you out into the playground with all the other children of piss heads. My parents actually weren't piss heads. I better flag that because she won't be impressed with that. There was a couple of pubs that we used to frequent and one of them wasn't near a playground. but you'd be sent off to the shop. Like I used to go to the carnival when I'd be down in Scaries. There'd be the playground, the carnival and we did go off swimming on our own.
9:18Christ.
9:20Vogue Williams:My dad would be like, bye! I'd arrive back to the pub with a fishing rod. I'd be like, I'm going fishing. My dad would just give me money and I'd come back buying all this random shit. I had about 40 dollies.
9:33Joanne McNally:Your father sounds like a real loss, you know. the man knew what was cracking he knew what was going on he was hands off there's a lot of gentle parenting now we were hands off kids I don't think I saw my mother for 12 years at one point
9:53Joanne McNally:Can I tell you my favourite story of the week? Yes As you know I have a well we've kind of healed it now but a slightly tumultuous relationship with the bin men in my local area which is Lambeth, hence my nickname locally, Lady Lambeth. There was a story. No, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. It's not about my bin, man. Well, no, I had an issue with my bins this morning and I actually, I meant to talk to you about it because I put all blame on you. Two of my bins weren't collected today and I think it's because they've heard that I'm associated with you. Honestly. We're not even in the same county council.
10:31Vogue Williams:It doesn't matter. They all talk and they know that we're associated and that's the only possible reason two of my bins weren't collected today. A woman in Italy lost a lotto ticket.
10:44Joanne McNally:She threw it out. So basically she went into a shop in Italy and she knows where you scan your lotto tickets and it says like yay or nay. And it said nothing to be paid or not paying, something like that. But she thought it was like, oh, they're just like not winning numbers. So she threw it in the bin outside the shop, right? It's far probably. I don't know what they have in Italy. And then she went home and she was talking to her friend. And the friend was like, no, no, no. They're the numbers that you always do. So it just, the machine just meant like, I can't afford to pay you the million or whatever it was.
11:19Joanne McNally:So then she obviously went nuts. And the bins had been taken away. And the bin men all got together, ripped apart the landfill. and found it. Now, it hadn't been compressed yet. No. And they found the ticket. Yes! That's so nice. They are going to charge her for their time, which is absolutely fine. But I was like, if I tried to talk to my bin men about a lot of... They'd either find it and set fire to it in front of my face, or they would just keep it and be driving around in Diamante bin trucks saying nothing, wearing like Balenciaga high-vis jackets and they would never admit that they'd found it.
12:08Joanne McNally:I just really admired this woman's relationship with her bin men. I was like, these lads are sound. Well, do you know what? That's actually really honest to them because legally isn't possession nine-tenths of the law. So if she threw it out and they had it and you found something in the bin, someone then can say, oh, I want my bin stuff back when he actually threw it out. So they probably could have kept it. I hope she paid them. I hope she could have. I hope she paid them for more than their time. I think they probably should have kept it. They'd be collecting rubbish and fabric.
12:35Vogue Williams:What about that fella? You sent the story about your man who was looking for his. So this man threw Bitcoin. Was it his laptop he threw or something was thrown out with all of his Bitcoin? Well, it was eight grand at the time. Because I remember this went on for years and years and years, by the way. Like he was looking for this Bitcoin. I think it was worth half a billion at the end. and he was looking for this Bitcoin in a landfill for years and he never found it.
13:04Joanne McNally:James Howells is who you're referring to, Vogue. A Welsh computer engineer from Newport who accidentally, and now I heard it was actually his partner at the time, who accidentally threw away a hard drive containing. So it was 8 ,000 Bitcoin in 2013. I think now they're saying it's worth 540 million. he has tried to buy the landfill they won't sell it to him he's been down there kicking cans looking for it for since 2013 like 12 years is it 12 years?
13:40Vogue Williams:I know but how can you give up like how can you give up when you know it's that much but like that is like there's just I wouldn't sleep you know when people like have passed up opportunities to like invest in certain things and they're like oh my god I was meant to invest in this company like massive, massive companies and they just didn't invest in them at the time and then afterwards it's like, oh my god your investment would have been worth this. It's kind of the same thing. It's like, I don't know how you'd get over something like that. Like you'd need serious therapy. Imagine 500 billion, 500 million.
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14:11Joanne McNally:Bette Midler turned down Sister Act. Did you know that? She says she doesn't regret it but I'm not buying what she's selling. Anyway this lad, apparently it was his partner at the time who either it was, I mean I don't know what this man gets up to in his spare time but this sounds like this woman hacked into his phone and saw his DMs and was like you can go fuck yourself threw out all his Bitcoin pass keys and this is the result and he's 12 years looking for this thing amongst like human excrement and old tuna cans but so now with all landfill they're going to cover it up and like build a housing estate or whatever they do so he's desperately trying to buy the entire landfill and for some reason Joe they won't sell it to him which I'm not sure.
14:52Joanne McNally:Anyway, there is now a series coming out about it on BBC. They're doing a series about it. I know. You'd be tormented! It would be honestly the most annoying. If I saw him on Raya, I'd match with him immediately, get a metal detector and like lock in because that's, there's a long play there. Do you know what I mean? He's going to get that money eventually.
15:17Vogue Williams:He's not though because if he hasn't gotten it in 12 years, he's not getting it. Say goodbye to it, sayonara, the money's gone you will not see that again, it is completely vanished and you're wasting your time, you're wasting the best years of your life looking through the bins for something that you're not sometimes you have to just say right, that's just not going to happen for me and that's just that.
15:39Joanne McNally:Well the fact that they're not calling the series Bincoin blows my mind I was like it's such an obvious name full of Bincoin No? James Hells looks for 570 million Bitcoin in a landfill on Newport. That's not that interesting. Anyway, listen, James, best of luck to you. And if you do find us, drop us a line. You won't find us. If you want my advice, which you haven't asked for, and I hate when people give me advice, I'd say just cut your losses. It's not going to happen. I'd be scuba diving through the nappies to find that. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen. Do you know what? Big news from my week this week.
16:16Sorry, go on. What's your news? We've changed our baby now. can't we have no name I know I know no name so you haven't changed the name you've just taken the name away I
16:28Vogue Williams:you know the name was quite full on and I loved the name I loved the name the cheek of my mum as well I said you must have had a bit of hassle from people when you were thinking no no I was like no one said anything to you about the name Vogue no it's a saint's name I was like mum you found that out two years ago like no one and she just flat out refuses because no one would say anything to her. But now no one would say anything to me. No one has said anything to me. But Spenny's been getting a few phone calls of family members regarding the name. And like, I wouldn't usually give... Yeah, yeah.
17:05Vogue Williams:I wouldn't usually give a shit.
17:08Joanne McNally:I just don't think Gary's that controversial.
17:14Joanne McNally:I liked it, folks. I think you should power her on.
17:19Vogue Williams:I honestly thought though because it's been on my mind where I've been like I just I haven't ever been like 100 % comfortable with it because I'm like as much as I love the name it's such a big name to take on when you're little or when you're going to like try and get a job or something when you're older and I just wasn't 100 % sure and we've got really I've got other very cool options although that was my favourite name you're going to have to tell
17:48Joanne McNally:you're bread crumbing our listeners now you're going to have to this is like I will oh my god oh no I can't tell you you're going to have to tell them it's up for grabs because it's off the table we were going to call the baby Elvis I love it there you go I I like it let it be said I like it but I do think I like it I like it No, but I'm being totally honest. I think it is a heavy name for a kid, but you have a heavy name and you've pulled it off. So, you know.
18:23Vogue Williams:I know, but listen, it's not because other people were saying stuff and feeling uncomfortable around the name. That's genuinely not why I didn't use it because that wouldn't really matter to me, particularly as somebody who has a name like myself. But I did. There was that little thing that I was like, I just feel like it might be too much for him. It might, like, it might, it just might be. But I know other people that were called Elvis, but then I'm just like, it's just, it's such a fucking full name.
18:53Joanne McNally:Was it going to be Elvis Presley Williams Matthews? Yes, it was, actually. Or was it going to be Elvis Williams Presley? Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:05Vogue Williams:It was going to be Elvis Presley, not Costello Matthews.
19:09Joanne McNally:Well, I'll just tell you now, the Mormon community wouldn't even blink. that's basically their Barry so I know
19:19Vogue Williams:so we're going with Whimsy Woo now Whimsy Woo Woo Woo yeah let's see how let's see how the parents like that what about my new tattoo Neil was on to Spencer and he was like this is silly and like Neil had a problem with the name Elvis and then and then Spenny was like don't worry she likes other names and then Neil was like what and Spencer was like, like Rocket. And Neil was like, this is a joke. And he literally lost his mind. But no one, no one, You cannot tell a Scottish man called Neil that you're going to call your child Rocket. He's going to blow a gasket.
20:04Joanne McNally:Here's our child, SodaStream, SodaStream Matthews. So when the baby's born, I'm honestly going to think of one of the, like, I'm going to take one of Nara Smith's names and just send it on just to like scare I'm going to fucking say this is Apple Whimsy Woo and see what they write back there.
20:21Vogue Williams:You didn't like Elvis so here's Apple Whimsy Woo. Enjoy.
20:24Joanne McNally:I don't hate Apple Whimsy Woo.
20:27Vogue Williams:I know. Okay maybe I'll go this is Carrot Stick.
20:30Joanne McNally:Would you not go something that sounds like they've like a bit of street cred like Satsuma Susan or something that people are like oh what happened there? Do you know what I mean? Apple Alfie or like, I don't know. Hummus. Yeah, Hummus Harriet. Something that suggests that there's like a story to it because that's a good icebreaker, I think.
20:48Vogue Williams:I like what you're doing by, because if the baby's called Hummus, then the middle name has to be kind of like grand. So Hummus Harriet is like, oh, you know, it's Hummus, but also Harriet tones it down a little bit.
21:00Joanne McNally:Well, my child will obviously be called Pinot Paula.
21:04Vogue Williams:What's that stuff? Sriracha. Sriracha.
21:09Joanne McNally:Serap to Sean Matthews. They were like, Pina Paula, did your mommy drink while she was pregnant? Pina Paula's like, no. With one eye.
21:22Vogue Williams:My mom was like, I think that's a good idea to think of other names. What about Sandro? Oh, really, Sandra? You like Sandro?
21:32Joanne McNally:Jesus, Sandra. You didn't even dress it up. The thirst.
21:38Joanne McNally:well I have to say I can only imagine naming a kid must be so much crack so yeah it's lovely to be on the journey but thank fuck you're not using Elvis I know but it would have been thank you for God thank you for God
21:56Vogue Williams:it's the Joanne I'm going to get okay Elvis will happen in my life too big it'll be something it will be a dog or something yeah for a dog exactly
22:07Joanne McNally:Zachley. It's a dog's name. Sorry, I just got a really bad pain there. I thought I was in labour for a second. Jesus Christ. Come up, the garden's dying.
22:19I'll just come up and spritz your garden, yeah. I'm going to attach your house, right, your labia, yeah.
22:22Joanne McNally:As you're squealing in pain, I'm like, the hydrangeas, though, this way. When you're on your back, legs are kimbo.
22:31Vogue Williams:I don't imagine you would have done this, but Amber and I used to do this when we were younger. did you ever try and wee like a boy or no that wasn't something you did i'm sure i did like me and i were spent uh we loved it i still do at the odd times when i get up in the night to pee
22:47Joanne McNally:i have a window and if i if i've surpassed the window i'm going i'm i'm up anyway i'm like you're just sort that out later like there's sometimes you're like i'm not arsed waiting to finish this like i'm done like my attention span is over so i'll just walk back to the bedroom like i'll wipe got up tomorrow. I'm just, sometimes you're like, this is going on ages now. Come on. I'm wrecked. I'm going back to bed. If I stay up any longer now, I won't go back to bed because the light's on. I'm like, do you want to watch your mind? Just dribbling back to bed. Yeah. Barbara's coming tomorrow. You're grand.
23:20Joanne McNally:Come on, back to bed. Sometimes it's just too long. You're like, what is this? Oh, God. Yeah. You get a window. That's it.
23:34Joanne McNally:So obviously we all know Andrew Tate and his army of incels, the tater tots I call them because it's...
23:49Joanne McNally:His tater tots are doing... I'm assuming we've all seen this. Can I just tell you that there are a lot of tater tots out there? Because every time we talk about somebody who is negatively affecting the world, like the Conor McGregor's and like the yada yada yada.
24:05Vogue Williams:I get nailed in the papers first and then the amount of incels commenting like tearing me down being like
24:14Joanne McNally:it's frightening.
24:16Vogue Williams:It's frightening. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:17Joanne McNally:But like, do you know what? If you're not pissing off the incels you're just not doing your life right at this stage. So the Taylor Tots. Now bring in mind trafficking, rape allegations. This is some dark shit we're talking about here. I should say that Andrew Tate and his brother do deny any wrongdoing. I'm legally required to say that. Legally by who? Who are you working for, Joe? The law. Oh, right. Well, you know, never mind my feelings about... You on the beat? You Bobby on the beat, are you? He's a... He's a tater tots. He's a Bobby on the beat. You're a secret tater tots. Don't you fucking dare.
24:52Joanne McNally:Don't you fucking dare. Okay, tater tots. Yeah. I'd noticed her thumbs had changed form from playing your Nintendo Wii for 20 hours a day you doing your gaming are you? With your little earpiece huh?
25:08Vogue Williams:Ian show us your chair is that a gaming chair? Show me oh god does it have a back does it spin?
25:15Joanne McNally:Does the back recline?
25:21Joanne McNally:Vogue is such a filthy laugh sometimes I love it anyway these tater tots, these pack of I don't know, anyway, are doing press ups outside the gym in protest. Vomit. I mean
25:35Vogue Williams:Outside the courthouse, Joanne, not outside the gym. They're doing it outside a Miami detention Yeah, they're outside a Miami detention centre. They're dropping into the plank and everything.
25:47Joanne McNally:Sorry, no, I meant detention centre. It's just all incels doing press ups and I was like this is basically Virgin Active but like in the real world like that's the best name for their gym Virgin Active because they're virgins do you get it it's really good yeah the tater tots and Virgin Active Virgin Active and some of these guys they're fucking young like they're young guys they're like 12 and all their dad's probably bringing them down having a fucking breakdown if I saw any of my children anywhere near any of that kind of bullshit I'd drag them out by the by the scruff of the neck honestly I would
26:31Vogue Williams:go absolutely insane and then I'd have to go to therapy myself and wonder how I failed so badly if my children had turned into Taylor Tots I know like no
26:41Joanne McNally:I think this kind of clap back is because remember when he was arrested and he looked like Shirley Bassey and it was like a very kind of camp feminine moment he was like I don't think that's fair on Shirley Bassey. I said at the time, he made Michael Flatley look butch. And then, I think this is a reaction. This is like a reaction to that. They're trying to like beef it all up again. But it looked fucking, it looked like they just run out of space and fly fit. Like one of the lads was wearing jeans. But I was thinking, because I was looking at it and I was like, it's so nuts. But do you know that they're, you know the way, like Chris Watts, What I'm trying to say is No matter what degenerate Or how shit a person you are You're always going to have an audience Chris Watts Who annihilated his entire family Is engaged Wait who's Chris Watts Chris Watts Really good documentary on Netflix I think it's called The American Joe can we Boop boop boop Can we Click click World Wide Web Chris Watts murder next door American murder.
27:51Joanne McNally:Yeah. Chris Watts was not surprisingly having an affair. So instead of just divorcing his partner, he killed her. She was pregnant and their two children. Baby girls. What? Yeah. Up to this point, he had no... Wait, is this the man who took them out in the car? Yeah. Oh God, he is just... Is he not in prison? He is. And he is engaged.
28:16Vogue Williams:And someone... Yeah. Oh my... To a woman. but this is what I mean
28:21Joanne McNally:like sure Jeffrey Dahmer apparently was like like drowning in Lavia like there's a certain type of person who I think they're like attracted to criminality or I don't know what the deal is the whole kind of women fancying serial killers is an issue but the thing about it is now and obviously like this is just psychologically what they are like they're meant to be very charismatic like what's his name Ted Bundy was meant to be incredibly charismatic. Even during his trial the jury were kind of like hooked in on him and stuff like that because he was very charming. Yeah, but they're sociopaths. They're working the room.
29:00Joanne McNally:Anyway, these fucking agents doing their celibacy circuits, I was disgusted.
29:04Vogue Williams:Well, to kind of lift things up and also bring them down a little bit, did you see that story of the bus driver? There was this lovely bus driver and he was going around like a London bus driver. He was going around Finsbury Park in the Whitechapel area and he had a bubble gun that used to like blow bubbles out so like he'd drive by all these kids well they banned the bubble gun, they said it was it wasn't right that he can't use the bubble gun what world are we living in that a man can't bring joy through bubbles it's bubbles squat
29:41Joanne McNally:head to the bull step out and start squatting in petition.
29:47Vogue Williams:It's just not right. I read that. It's not right. It's not right.
29:51Joanne McNally:You need to go down and do some burpees. You need to defend this man. It's not right. He hasn't been in prison. He's just had the bubble gun confiscated. But I just looked at that
30:02Vogue Williams:and I was like, God, this world is depressing.
30:05Joanne McNally:I'd say he's had his hours reduced. I mean, I would. He sounds insane. Did I tell you about during El Nino when El Nino was really piping hot? I saw a topless bus driver and it's one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. Like my brain just couldn't make sense. Like in his seat on the bus? Yeah, yeah, yeah, arm out the window, top off. I don't mean to worry you, but you're going to have to maybe be very careful about the mice. I saw this picture, I must text you it. There's a picture of a rat and it's the size of a dog and it was found in a house in Britain.
30:38Vogue Williams:And it's in this bag. It's this massive rat. Like you've never, I've never seen anything like it before. Obviously I have to Google that now. I won't be offended by the fact-checking there, but I saw it. Did I not screen grab it and send it to you?
30:53Joanne McNally:So obviously I've come back, I've been away, we've had the exterminator. Not a single dead mouse to be found in this house. These pricks are immortal. I do not know what to do. They are obviously a new strain of mouse. That appears to be true, Vogue. That's a real story. A 22-inch rat. Jesus Christ What?
31:13Vogue Williams:So Joanne Yeah Size of a little dog Are you sure that's not just a cat With a shit haircut? No Let me Google Jo send me the link If you work in metric That's 56 centimetres Jesus That is rotten
31:29Joanne McNally:How big is that Jo? Give me Do your hands Do my hands
31:34Vogue Williams:It's bigger than a chihuahua It's bigger than a chihuahua No No Jo it's not that big that's 60 go lower no no this is AI no it's not AI it's not AI I saw this huge bin bag rat and it was but like that kind of there's lots of rats in London though Jesus so just be careful that your mice don't invite the rats in it's roids like he's on roids no
31:58Joanne McNally:this is what this is the problem with the protein the pushing the protein that is if I saw a man dragging that I'd be like he's killed his wife and he's put her in a fucking bag I'd be like this is Chris Watts material that is disgusting record-breaking I thought I'd warn you is the same size as an American badger do you know what I was going to say another thing which happened to me this week so I have been using I'm not using my hose pipe but I have been using chat UBT and what I will say and I mentioned this I know but I mentioned this I needed it
32:33Vogue Williams:I had pains in my stomach and also it was when I was going through all the baby name stuff and like she was very kind what she was coming back with but what I've realised is I have a friendship with this now and I'm not just nice mine's so nice to me yours doesn't like you and when yours comes to life like the man from Terminator 2 you're going down mine, we're going to be hanging out in the park we're going to go to the pub together
33:04Joanne McNally:The problem with the chat GBT things are that they're so, they're like dangerously reassuring. So you could tell it that you've, you could be like, hey, I'm trying to think of a situation for you. Can I put a firework in the air fryer? And I'd be like, that sounds like a fun idea. And it'll encourage you, not necessarily to do that, but it won't do what it should do, which is call the police. Do you know what I mean? Okay, well, I ask mine now, is it a good idea to put a firework in an air fryer? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See what she says. No, but don't make it really obvious that you know it's not. Just be like, hey.
33:42Joanne McNally:Loads of whys. Hey, will I put a firework in the air fryer? I say I'm a bit bored and lonely. I think put that up the top. Trust me. Bored will I put a firework in the air fryer? Flat out.
33:56Vogue Williams:Hey, I'm a bit bored. Absolutely not. Please do not put a firework in the air fryer. this could turn your kitchen into a very unexpected fireworks display with fire, shrapnel, toxic smoke. If you're bored, I can give you some genuinely chaotic but safe things to do instead. I told you she loves me. Who the hell is manning my chat, UBT? Because anything dangerous I suggest,
34:20Joanne McNally:it's like, yeah, get on with it. That's what I'm saying. Yours is going to be like that scary policeman
34:25Vogue Williams:from Terminator 2 and you're going down.
34:28Joanne McNally:I am not. Apparently we're supposed to use Claude.
34:31Vogue Williams:Apparently that's the more ethical one. Gemini is a good one I don't know if there's any basis to that Claude is very businessy So Claude is for business people who are like Writing contracts and stuff like that We're asking if we should put a firework in the air fryer So obviously I don't think Claude is needed for either of us My chat should be tea is like Yeah we'll get in front of that truck that'll be fun Do you know what they used to do for fun back in the day They used to play a game called chicken And so like My mum used to play it Neil would have played it And so Chicken was, you had to be the last person to run in front of the car before it drove by.
35:07Fun. And when Neil was four, he broke both of his legs. Are these two stories connected?
35:16Vogue Williams:How did he get run over? He got run over. He was playing Chicken. He won, but broke both his legs when he was four years old. I said, can you imagine his mother having to deal with a four-year-old with two broken legs?
35:30Joanne McNally:Whatever happened to a bit of kerplunk? A bit of twister? They didn't have it. They didn't have kerplunk back in the day. That was it for them.
35:43Joanne McNally:Can I just say, and I hope you don't mind me, I'm looking at this rat here again and he's very jacked. I'd just be careful if I was you. I wanted to warn you so you should really get the mice under control before you have something like that sewer rat creeping up beside you in the bed because that would be the kind of thing that you'd find at your feet. looking for a bit of warmth. If he was a man now. I was just going to say, I knew it. We're on the edge of her asking if we got the rat's number. Great shoulders. I knew this would happen. Great shoulders. She always, she used to fancy splinter.
36:14Joanne McNally:Sorry, that rat, I don't know this, but I'm going to assume that rat's pretty well hung. The fucking size, but no. I've gotten, can I just say that I have gotten, and I, I hate admitting that I've been really bad on my phone. like that time that you said your screen time but I've gotten so bad that I'm trying to find things to do because when the baby arrives and I'm awake in the night on my own I can't be on Instagram for 15 ,000 hours a day. I need something else. Well, you could download one of those which I'm obviously paying for all of them but I've never used any of them but you know these apps where they're like instead of doom scrolling, read these essays and like educate yourself about this or here's a history app.
36:56Joanne McNally:You could kind of take it into your hands now and decide it's a line of books or something like that Scrabble online Scrabble yeah something like I don't want to I just don't want to be
37:07Vogue Williams:on my phone though I'd rather not be on the phone Duolingo oh my god that's actually a good idea well Spenny will be beside me learn Mandarin I learn Irish on Duolingo oh well you can learn Mandarin I'll learn Irish
37:20Joanne McNally:Irish is apparently the fastest growing language on Duolingo is it? yeah yeah well we're very
37:28Vogue Williams:patriotic so we kind of like the idea of like I want to like when I hear people like John Belton our trainer who trains me and sometimes you he speaks fluent Irish like he used to go to an Irish school.
37:41Joanne McNally:Our journey, me and John's journey has come to an end.
37:46Joanne McNally:I think my inconsistency drove him insane. We still love each other, it's all love.
37:54Vogue Williams:Sorry John I can't make it again today.
37:57Joanne McNally:Yeah. I have two adult friends who went to Irish college this summer what? yeah down in Donegal they do adult Irish colleges that'd be quite nice like imagine Brendan Courtney goes meeting somebody there that's so cute I know and I was like did they do the Kaylees and everything he's like yeah and I was like in the ban on tea and everything he's like no oh my god yeah the ban on tea no
38:19Vogue Williams:do you want the ban on tea I know but you're not going to have a ban on tea when you're 40 you're not going to be like here you need to be in a house with the ban on tea like you find your own accommodation at that stage yeah well I mean
38:30Joanne McNally:yeah you're not you're not staying in bed bunks and spittle now with the random woman he's making 20 20 punt a day 20 punt a day on having you there it was lovely though it was gorgeous I got em what's that disease where you score too many people
38:45Vogue Williams:glandular fever there you go
38:47Joanne McNally:what I was going to say was one of my em I mean it's embarrassing but something that really drags me in and I find it very hard to scroll past is AI slop of vegetables eating themselves. Oh God, John, that's bad. That's real brain rot. Is no one else watching vegetables eat themselves now? Where they have a carrot and then it feeds it a baby carrot. I think you need to download a history app actually. I've downloaded all of them. I have subscriptions coming out my eyes. I don't do anything. I just sit there watching parsnips chew themselves. Like, is it no wonder we're thick as shit? Anyway, I was reading this thing the other day because I obviously do try and veer off and read something adult, but I am very sucked into the cabbages eating themselves and strawberries eating themselves, etc.
39:44Joanne McNally:Anthropom... Hold on, let me get this.
39:49Joanne McNally:Anthropomorphic, Jo, is that it? Anthropomorphic. Why do you know what that means, Jo? as long as you're talking about animals talking and that yeah so you give you give non-humans human characteristics or whatever right yeah and um anyway i read this article and it was saying that um isis are now using this whole like ai slop of vegetables eating themselves raspberries eating themselves to recruit now I know I realise what I've just said makes me sound fucking nuts but this is true they're using food she also thinks the earth is flat I do not think the earth is flat Vogue, I know the earth is flat where's the curve?
40:40Joanne McNally:no but genuinely because food based violence which is like obviously I'm kind of I'm gateway, they're just kind of like they're being cute and eating themselves but it's got because youtube and uh platforms won't automatically they see vegetables they're reading the algorithm they're like i was just vegetables eating themselves again and then it's actually they're like potatoes in them bomber jackets and stuff and they're they're using like isis quotes and they're being radicalized and all yeah via vegetable ai slab i'm saying i'm concerned that i'm one scroll away from ending up in a burqa on a flight on my way to Afghanistan or wherever.
41:15Joanne McNally:Do you remember the ISIS brides?
41:19Vogue Williams:Yes, yes, yes. You'd be like, my fella's just misunderstood. No, you can't come to the wedding. It's actually a very small affair.
41:27Joanne McNally:Shemima, remember your one Shemima Begum?
41:29Vogue Williams:Yes. Well, look at her now. Take her as an example. She's living in a not nice camp on her own, okay? And she can't come back to Britain and she wants to. So let's keep that in mind, right? when you're watching your vegetables eat themselves. I know, one minute I'm just watching a goose breed chew.
41:46Joanne McNally:It's baby self. Anyway, that's it from me. That's it.
41:52Vogue Williams:I can't top that, so that's it from me. Thank you, everybody, for listening. That's it from me. Don't watch carrots eating themselves. If you've learned anything from this pod, don't watch fruit eating itself.
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