Gladiators, Labubu & Soo-Chi

1 Aug 2025 · 39 min · 17 chapters

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In short

Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally banter about appearance insecurities (fresh “fox brow” eyebrow shaping), celebrity training for Gladiators (Vogue’s New Year’s Day recording in Sheffield), and the LeBooBoo collectible doll craze (limited drops, resale, and overspending). They also riff on Irish politics/candidates (Michael D stepping down; Michael Flatley running; joking about Neil Wilson and Deirdre O’Cain) and a viral “Sochi” fish-counter man.

Guests

No external guests. Main hosts are Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally; Sam Thompson appears briefly by phone/voice as a referenced participant.

Key claims

“Fox brow” involves cutting brows to “snatch”/lift the face; Gladiators training is not softened for celebrities; LeBooBoos are scarcity-marketing and often resold; the “frozen shaft of urine” story is fake.

Notable examples

Secret Brow Society in Sheffield; Gladiators Eliminator/rope/zipline mishaps; Vogue buying three LeBooBoos after Maria’s shop; joking about “Sochi” vs “Sushi” and Trinity “Leprecheans.”

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Chapters

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Bad Face Day Confessions

0:15 to 1:05

Vogue shares her struggles with self-image and her appearance.

“Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me, with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally.”

Eyebrow Experiences in Sheffield

1:05 to 2:26

Discussion about Vogue's recent eyebrow appointment in Sheffield.

“So no one was going to come out of this well.”

The Fox Brow Explained

2:26 to 4:22

Vogue explains the concept of a 'fox brow' and her experience with it.

“Is it something to do with the fox animal?”

AirPods and Airport Mishaps

4:22 to 6:18

A humorous discussion about lost AirPods and flight experiences.

“It's a wispy, it's a wispy winged hair bed at the front.”

Gladiators New Year's Day Special

6:18 to 11:39

Vogue shares her excitement about filming Gladiators and her experiences on set.

“sharp I thought I looked intelligent and elegant sorry if I before you start maybe I will get my sunglasses this is bad hold on I just don't think she looks bad.”

Aging and Athleticism

11:39 to 14:00

Vogue and Joanne discuss the challenges of staying fit as they age.

Striving for Fitness and Relatability

14:00 to 15:00

The hosts discuss the challenges of staying fit and relatable as they age.

“When I just kept saying pedal there, I realised I was like...”

The Intensity of Training for Reality TV

15:00 to 18:00

They share experiences of intense training camps for reality TV, including past challenges and personal growth.

“So I'm feeling like that now and I'm like, but then there's things and I sat up, you do this like zip wire thing and I sat up there and I was like, I'm really scared.”

Gladiators and Humorous Memories

18:00 to 21:00

The conversation shifts to nostalgic memories of gladiator-style competitions and past television experiences.

“Joanne, it's a Christmas tradition for myself to embarrass myself on TV once every Christmas.”

Le Boo Boo Dolls and Trends

21:00 to 23:20

The hosts explore the trend of Le Boo Boo dolls, discussing their appeal and the nature of collectible items.

“Honestly, I've watched this since I was a kid and it's just so exciting.”
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Consumer Culture and Le Boo Boo Experience

23:20 to 28:00

They reflect on consumer culture, personal experiences with shopping, and the whimsical nature of trends like Le Boo Boos.

“a Le Boobie doll of course they're those Furbies that look like they've had veneers done in Turkey I don't know Yes.”

Discussing the Le Boo Boo Bag

28:00 to 28:38

The hosts talk about the Le Boo Boo bag and its popularity, sharing personal anecdotes.

“I haven't And it's about time to give me the Le Boo Boo bag I've been scammed more times than is fair or normal.”

Fashion Trends and Childhood Toys

28:39 to 30:37

Conversation shifts to fashion trends, comparing Le Boo Boo to childhood toys like Teletubbies and Furbies.

“These things are coming in hot and heavy and fast.”

Ears Piercing and Nostalgic Fashion

30:38 to 32:46

The hosts discuss the idea of getting ears pierced and nostalgic fashion trends like belly bars and eyebrow rings.

“God, I never thought of giving her one of the Furbies.”

Irish Presidency Discussion

32:47 to 34:28

The hosts engage in a humorous conversation about the Irish presidency and potential candidates.

“I thought she was going to go and tell them to stop.”

Nominating Unconventional Candidates

34:29 to 36:58

They propose unconventional candidates for presidency, including personal connections and humorous suggestions.

“And they were like, we went into Dublin City and we bought some Leprecheans.”

Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement

36:59 to 38:08

The hosts wrap up the episode with playful banter and engagement with listeners.

“also aware that the president is not in charge of he has nothing to do with revenue and such but I'm just saying he does seem like that man he's good with his cash he's good with his money great suggestion anything else?”
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Transcript

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0:01Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.

0:15Vogue Williams:Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me, with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally.

0:26Joanne McNally:I look terrible today I'm not feeling myself at all

0:30Vogue Williams:Well you don't look terrible first of all If you did I just wouldn't say anything I wouldn't tell you You looked terrible obviously But I wouldn't say anything

0:39Joanne McNally:But I'm insulted that you think That I look like this all the other days Because I'm having a bad face day I'm having a bad face day And it is what it is and it is what it is. I'm just letting you know that's why I'm wearing three baseball caps, two sets of sunglasses and hiding behind a microphone. I'm not vibing off myself at all.

0:59Vogue Williams:Well, I feel...

1:01Joanne McNally:It's half past eight in the morning in fact. It's half past eight in the morning.

1:04Vogue Williams:And I've had my eyebrows done. So no one was going to come out of this well. I'm sorry. I didn't realise that it was going to affect the group as much as it has.

1:14Joanne McNally:Yeah. Once folks had the brows done, it's very hard for anyone else to feel good about themselves and her company.

1:21Vogue Williams:It's almost, it's not just me, it's with anyone. When anyone's had the brows done, I don't want to be anywhere near them. There's no point.

1:28Joanne McNally:No, it does. It's like, it certainly, it gives a sexy, fresh energy. It's very clear that you are still, you know, that you haven't given up on yourself. Whereas I look like I have kind of gone into physical retirement.

1:40Vogue Williams:Today. Well, I have had to, I came back from Spain to work over here. and I went, I'm up in Sheffield, right? And I was desperately looking for somebody to do my eyebrows. So I was Googling places and I went to a place called the Secret Brow Society. I don't know why I had to say their name, but they were actually very good if you're ever in Sheffield. I paid full price. Nothing to do with this. You always need to include that bit. I know, I know, which is annoying because it's just like, sometimes I think it's just nice to give people a shout out. Even if you've paid full price for everything, it doesn't mean that you're doing a favour it's actually because you're just going somewhere and they did a good job and they were really nice

2:20Joanne McNally:exactly we're not we're not always on the make do you know what I mean sometimes you're just being like sometimes you're just trying to be helpful

2:27Vogue Williams:and do you know the problem is when you're trying to be sound sometimes as well people are like you have to tag and I'm like oh my god I don't have to tag I paid I was just trying to be nice anyway she gave me a thing called a fox brow have you ever heard of it?

2:41Joanne McNally:no but can I guess?

2:44Vogue Williams:yes but you won't to be able to know.

2:46Joanne McNally:Is it something to do with Megan Fox?

2:48Vogue Williams:No, nothing to do with Megan Fox.

2:50Joanne McNally:Is it something to do with the fox animal? Like, do foxes have brows, Jo? Like, are they known for their eyebrows? I'm picturing them as little orange guys with little white eyebrows.

3:01Vogue Williams:White brows. I think they have a white brow. No, it's nothing to do with that. Actually, to be honest with you, you're making me unsure if it was called a fox brow. No, it is. It's called a fox brow. It is. It's a snatch. So it involves a snatch. So what she did was, and you were all about the snatch, Snatching means like there's a girl who does makeup and she shows you how to snatch your face with makeup, which lifts your whole face up. We don't want our face lifted down. We want it lifted up. So she cut my brows because they were very long and going down like a long tail. And she cut them. And now because she cut them, that's why I look like I've had a lift.

3:34Vogue Williams:I've had a lift. But why Fox? I don't know why Fox. I don't know. Okay. I was just happy. I was just I heard it snatched and I said go for it I've never had them before and she goes you might not like them I was like if it's snatched I'll like them

3:48Joanne McNally:I got stung with a haircut once when the hair the hair cutter hair drafter asked me towards the end of the haircut do you want some shaping around the face and of course I just heard shape face and you know that I'm in a constant battle with my face because it goes moon and then it decreases and it goes moon and then it decreases so I was like oh yeah like I love shape in the face and what you then I didn't realise what I was being asked I misunderstood the question it's my fault and then I got some kind of feathered layers and yeah it took a couple of years to get over that to be honest to let them grow out I wouldn't recommend a feathered layer on the face of a middle aged woman okay if you get asked to do face shaping it's not what you think it is it's not a faxbrow or a snatched face it's a feather

4:37Vogue Williams:it's not a Jennifer Aniston it's not a Jennifer Aniston

4:39Joanne McNally:it's a feathered bang

4:41Vogue Williams:oh no Oh no. That is the worst of them all.

4:46Joanne McNally:It's a wispy, it's a wispy winged hair bed at the front. It was, it was zero stars. I'm a, another AirPod down. Flushed it down the airplane toilet yesterday. Yeah.

5:00Vogue Williams:No.

5:00Joanne McNally:Mm-hmm. Yeah.

5:02Vogue Williams:Did it actually, did it, did you look at your fine my hair? I'd love to know where it is.

5:06Joanne McNally:I've been tracking it all morning. Stop. Where is it? It's dead. so I don't know where it is but it's clearly it's like I mean let's face it this is kind of like when your pet gets killed and your parents say it's gone to a farm it's not like it's off and I beat on it too it's in a cesspit in an airport somewhere

5:26Vogue Williams:well it could be in the Irish Sea I was thinking if it got sprayed out of the plane no no no oh yeah no no no that doesn't really

5:33Joanne McNally:that doesn't happen

5:34Vogue Williams:no it does show

5:35Joanne McNally:it used to happen in the 80s a lot and if there was a it only ever happened if there was a hole in the plane which apparently happened quite a lot in the 80s and it would leak out and there was one case recently where a man was splattered with excrement somewhere in Northern England yeah but we did I die we did clarify that the fake the fake

5:58Vogue Williams:shard

5:59Joanne McNally:the fake no not the shard the frozen shaft the frozen shaft of wee

6:04Vogue Williams:we did confirm that that was not actually correct I don't remember confirming that to be honest I've lived the life since thinking that that was true is that definitely not true? That was definitely not true we discussed it on the podcast

6:19Joanne McNally:and I ended up going back to Google the photo and it was like it was like it was like clip art someone had drawn it it was so bad how I felt

6:27Vogue Williams:but no the frozen shaft

6:32Joanne McNally:of urine was fake news but anyway what was I talking about? Your airpods the airpods I'm just going to cut off one of my ears I can't be dealing with this anymore

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6:42Vogue Williams:I just don't honestly look what I'm wearing these are what you need to get they're so big and you won't lose them but they look like you look how do I look? sharp I thought I looked intelligent and elegant

7:02Joanne McNally:sorry if I before you start maybe I will get my sunglasses this is bad hold on I just don't think she looks bad. I look, yeah, this is better. I look like I'm in the Witness Protection Program.

7:13Vogue Williams:Can I just say, can I, how many pods is this now? Is this the third pod in when Joanne and I sat down and spoke about doing YouTube and we'll get our hair and makeup done and we'll go in early and we'll look great. My hair is wet. You're wearing some less than that. It's episode three.

7:30Joanne McNally:And a baseball hat, yeah. It's terrible. Podcasts used to be an audible platform. and now they're visual and I wasn't aware that that was coming down the road Folk, tell me this Why are you in a grey tracksuit in a blue dressing room?

7:46Vogue Williams:What are you up to? I have to I stole a prop so I could show you because now we're not just audible Oh Oh It's a white helmet Oh Yeah It's a white helmet with the gladiator sign on front I have an extra large head I'm the only one out of the whole group wearing extra large. Are you serious? I am. I've flown back to Sheffield. By the way, Sheffield people are very nice people. I've only met nice people here. I've flown back to Sheffield and I'm recording the New Year's Day special of Gladiators. An absolute childhood dream of mine. I used to... Remember Wolf? Remember how cool Wolf was? Yes. When you used to watch...

8:36Vogue Williams:So I'm doing the show and it has been, I'm doing it with Sam Thompson, Joe Wicks, who are obviously very brilliant and very athletic. And Nicola Adams. Sam Thompson now. Does a pod with Pete Wicks. Oh yeah, I follow him. He's funny, but he's not sporty. Well, here's the thing. I said this to him yesterday as well. I was like, Sam, you've really surprised me. And he was like, what do you mean? I was like, I didn't think you'd be as good as you are. He is very, very sporty Him and Joe are like They're really nimble, sporty Like little gazelles Just like running along Trotting through everything I will be honest He did recently run and cycle 260 miles

9:20Joanne McNally:Not another one Oh my god Spencer, Jamie Lang, Sam Thompson I know I will say Joe Wicks and Sam Thompson Now that I know exactly who you mean They do not give sporting But hey Can't wait to watch

9:34Vogue Williams:Joe Wicks doesn't give sporting. That's all he does. That's his actual career. Sorry, not him. Oh, no. Who's he? Pete. Pete.

9:46Joanne McNally:Him. Is he doing us?

9:50Vogue Williams:Joe Wicks. No, Joe Wicks. Joe Wicks was only saying yesterday that people always call him Pete Wicks.

9:58Joanne McNally:Oh, Joe Wicks. Oh, he's very sporty.

10:01Vogue Williams:Very. But Sam, honestly, I was shocked and appalled by how good he was. So I obviously, Nicola Adams is a boxer. She's a female boxer. She's an amazing boxer, Olympian. And I arrive and like, obviously, you know that I think that I'm kind of sporty. Well, I actually, I don't know if it's an age thing. but I yesterday I'm going to send you a video when I tried to so we were doing the Eliminator which is the thing at the end and we'd been doing loads of things and we'd been practicing the thing that you run up and we'd done it so much and obviously I'm not a runner, I'm very heavy footed, I'm not a runner and particularly not on this and then Joix was like will I record you and I was like sure, go on and pop it on the gram and I did the beam and then I went to run up the drive later and literally went, boof!

10:57Vogue Williams:And just like, I'm actually still going to post that. It's so bad. Oh, brilliant.

11:03Joanne McNally:I love a blooper. This is great news, yeah.

11:06Vogue Williams:But like, to be honest with you, I was coming in yesterday and I was like, I'm so competitive. I'm really going to try and win. And then like, towards the end of the day, I was like, I'm just, I'm just here for a bit of fun, you know? It's a childhood dream. Just here to enjoy yourself.

11:18Joanne McNally:It's the taking part.

11:20Vogue Williams:And you're - It was, it is, it's the taking part, but it was making, it made me feel like I was like oh my god is it because I'm getting older that I'm not able to like do all these things but it's actually really intense it's not like they haven't dulled it down for us it's really intense so I'm trying not to beat myself up about it like I'm not a gladiator I'm just a contender

11:40Joanne McNally:they haven't modified the game show for the celebrities is what you mean

11:45Vogue Williams:no

11:46Joanne McNally:the way that John Belton had to modify your workouts when I got involved that's why I remember that term and he's like, Joanne, I'm going to modify it for you which was the most condescending but essential part of the whole workout and I was like, yes, modify, modify i.e. like, I won't do that one

12:06Joanne McNally:Beau was very loud there so I just had to turn her down She does that sometimes

12:11Vogue Williams:when we're sitting watching TV together she just starts using the remote on me just points it at me Beauty of not being in your physical company

12:19Joanne McNally:I can just I could mute you completely if I wanted to, you know I do remember John Belton saying to me though he's like Vogue is low level she's like she's a low level athlete

12:29Vogue Williams:no well I'm definitely not a low level athlete I really I feel like I've been really put back in my place since I got here because I don't have upper body strength I can't do a pull up I can't do a pull so I can't get myself up that rope that's the only thing

12:42Joanne McNally:that I'm really on the age thing I was only saying to Olivia who I train with well that's that's because I don't want to say my trainer because it sounds you sound like such a posh bastard saying my trainer. I say the woman I train with Well don't tell them about your chef yeah The woman I train with and then pay her after that's never a deal We just meet in the park and then I pay her, it's fine it's not a service of sorts we just hang for money

13:08Vogue Williams:I'm going to start rumours that you have a chef, that you have a life coach

13:14Joanne McNally:Someone did say I bought a bike the other week I saw the bike and you didn't even you didn't even warn me that you were getting a bike well do you remember I thought we were all going to do it together and then you and Spencer reminded me that you're actually a couple I'm not involved in the marriage went off and did it yourselves

13:28Vogue Williams:I realised that you and Spencer were never going to come and get the bike with me I'd be waiting till now I've had my bike nearly eight months I went and did it alone

13:35Joanne McNally:well okay so I had to do the same one Sunday and you know the other way Sunday single woman Sunday I always try to go out and kind of have a plan and involve myself in the world and I was pelotoning from the in the kitchen looking out in the common and I was like Joanne you could just pedal outdoor. Like you could leave and pedal in the world rather than just pedaling alone. Actually, I'm sorry, Joe, the pedaling's also like a code for Rankin. Yeah. When I just kept saying pedal there, I realised I was like... Yeah, not pedaling in the traditional pawing sense. I mean, actually, pedaling. Yeah, we know it.

14:11Joanne McNally:Anyway, so I posted a video, you know yourself as we do.

14:14Vogue Williams:Yeah.

14:15Joanne McNally:And someone was like, oh no. And I was like, what? And she goes, no, no, no, no. I much prefer you when you're just eating chicken and drinking wine. She's like, this doesn't fit in with my idea of you at all. And I was like, look, I pedal. You know, I have to stay alive. I have to have some level of fitness. I'm sorry. I want to live into my 80s. Do you know what I mean? She just wants to watch me get pissed and die at 50. Oh, but this is what I was going to say. Every morning when I get up, I was saying this to Olivia, the woman that I train with for money. and it's like

14:49Vogue Williams:I You're a trainer, yes

14:52Joanne McNally:Folk, that's just semantics, okay I know that I've become not as relatable in the past in the recent past Is that your housekeeper behind you? And I'm trying to No, it's my mum, I make her wear a penny

15:09Joanne McNally:Pat, you missed a bit She wants to get a robotic hoover so she can do less I said, no You need to keep yourself mobile

15:15Vogue Williams:cop onto yourself it's a steep road drag out the Henry out of there and get stuck in she starts getting a robotic hoover next up it's going to be the robotic mop the robotic window cleaner

15:26Joanne McNally:where does it end where does it end every morning when I'm in Dublin I come in I throw a Rubex cube at her and say you start cracking on that let's keep the brain alive and then you come downstairs you're going to hoover the hell downstairs and clean the toilets let's go Pat let's go every morning I get up and I stretch and it is like I've never stretched before and sometimes Olivia's like you're like the tin man coming across the common because I'm my body and then when I went to the chiropractor I have to go to the chiropractor now because and I was like why have I gotten so like my body's gotten so stiff and he said you just hold tension in your body he's like some people just hold more tension in their body than others it just is what it is there's nothing you can do about it you just need to kind of keep coming to me and I'll crack you once a week

16:09Vogue Williams:it's interesting that you say that because like honestly when you start when you have a moment where you're like god I feel like like I'm not I don't feel like I'm 25 anymore in my body. I know. So I'm feeling like that now and I'm like, but then there's things and I sat up, you do this like zip wire thing and I sat up there and I was like, I'm really scared. Like we're not attached to anything. And then because of the upper body strength, I was like, what if I just fall off because I can't hold my own body weight? So I was sitting up there for ages and I was going to get back down and then I was like, you can't the fuck haunt yourself, you little bitch.

16:40Vogue Williams:And you get down there and lift your legs at the end. And so like, I think it's really nice to be doing something like this where I'm able to push myself even though I don't feel comfortable even though I find it difficult it's actually so much fun but it's hard it's like remember I did Bear Grylls and you won but I was like it's for TV it'll be glamping I genuinely thought I was walking into a place of Bell Tense that's what I thought I was doing I've made the same mistake here I thought I was going to do a show Yeah, you're like on the zip line.

17:15Joanne McNally:You thought there'd be like, I had a camera, a little man kind of carrying your legs to get you across the line. Yeah. Or a motorized.

17:21Vogue Williams:You want me to lift my...

17:25Joanne McNally:The treadmill thing is just going to like gently motorize you forward. Yeah. Yeah.

17:29Vogue Williams:Exactly. I looked at the rope net and I was like, oh, sorry, you want me to personally climb up that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's pushing behind me?

17:38Joanne McNally:You're like, you know, I'm a celebrity, yeah? I'm not a pleb. I would like the celebrity treatment for gladiators this is a bit

17:47Vogue Williams:it's a bit real I would like to speak to the head of production now

17:52Joanne McNally:I'm going to have a full Karen moment here I'm going to need to speak to the manager immediately please but do you know what I'm laughing at folk I feel like it was only yesterday that you sat across from us announced that you were doing Strictly Come Dancing Strictly Come Jungle Dance and then by the time Christmas came around with all the training and the dancing privately you were saying to me that it was one of the biggest mistakes of your life you were absolutely exhausted you were near burnout you were near breaking point and you were like crying and you were like it's so hard

18:29Vogue Williams:that's because I was getting the flu remember

18:32Joanne McNally:yes we didn't know that actually yeah that makes sense and now I feel like we're doing it all over again you're back in some sort of intense training camp for a reality

18:42Vogue Williams:TV show. Joanne, it's a Christmas tradition for myself to embarrass myself on TV once every Christmas. It has to be done.

18:51Joanne McNally:You've got to do it for the kids. The kids love it.

18:54Vogue Williams:I have to humiliate myself at least once a year.

18:57Joanne McNally:By the kids I mean Jo and I.

19:04Joanne McNally:When they were cool to went to L School Gladiators and you were in like loincloths and sandals. That's what I'd love to see. Yeah. Wouldn't that be cool? Would I put that to them? I think you should. You know, back in the day, some of them, they would make them fight like with blind. They'd make them fight blind. And lions and elephants and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:22Vogue Williams:I don't think, that's why I'm not sure if I ever had a past life because I just wouldn't have been able for any of that bullshit to be honest. I just like, I'm comfortable. I'm comfortable.

19:30Joanne McNally:Yeah, no, I mean it wasn't. It wasn't the ideal lifestyle. No, let's be fair. I want to see Joe Wicks in a loincloth. That's what I want.

19:35Vogue Williams:I might do I'll say Joe I know you've got a wife and four kids but like Joanne and I would like to see you in a loincloth

19:40Joanne McNally:is that such an issue on the travelator yeah on the travelator I'll bring I'm going to come to the recording and I'm going to bring my own Jumbotron

19:48Vogue Williams:oh yeah oh god you see him in a night

19:51Joanne McNally:for the day at the loincloth it's fantastic

19:53Vogue Williams:well you know what there's 4 ,000 people that come into the arena to watch it because like just yeah yeah yeah and like Joe Wicks has like 20 family and friends coming up and Nicola has like 30. Sam and I zero. What? Well I have Louisa who's my manager and her daughter Paloma but Sam said that they don't count. But I said at least I've got two. At least I've got more than you. He was like you basically paid them to come. I was like I didn't. That's hilarious. When is it? Me and Jo will go. It's too late. It's today. I'm about to go get me hair and makeup. What? You're recording it today? Yes. I'm recording it today.

20:33Vogue Williams:do you want me to rob you the tracksuit because I don't want the tracksuit as much as I want the outfit I'll rob you they said we're not allowed but if one goes missing and I've already I've pointed out that I was intending to steal it I'm sure they get it all the time so I just said listen I'm probably I'm probably gonna rob this and they said oh you can't really take it and I was like well mine's probably gonna go missing then I don't know what other way to put it to you because I have to go home with merch yeah come on now I'm even like with my with my name but it's the coolest thing. It's iconic.

21:02Vogue Williams:Honestly, I've watched this since I was a kid and it's just so exciting. Well, not if I get completely battered later, but we'll see.

21:09Joanne McNally:One of my favourite jackets was stolen by me from the RTE costume department and I have no regrets about it. So steal. I might actually go up to the production office

21:19Vogue Williams:and take a couple of laptops as well because that's

21:21Joanne McNally:essentially merch, no? 100%. I was like, this Adidas jacket, it's too cool for Fair City. No one's going to use it in there. It needs to come home with me. No one in Fair City can get away with this jacket.

21:31Vogue Williams:They wouldn't

21:32Joanne McNally:It would have just

21:33Vogue Williams:Mothballs They would have done nothing with it Exactly You've given it a new life

21:36Joanne McNally:Yeah It's gorgeous Anyway Maybe Maybe bleep out RTA Fair City I mean that could be any Channel show Yeah no one knows what you mean No one knows what I mean

21:49Vogue Williams:I was actually

21:49Joanne McNally:I deserved it I deserved it After they fired me off Republic of Telly I deserved something So I stole an Adidas jacket From the RTA

21:56Vogue Williams:You deserved more than that To be honest with you You're lucky They're lucky you didn't sue Huh

22:00Joanne McNally:I feel like she's single-handedly run the show into the ground.

22:05Vogue Williams:I'll sue.

22:09Vogue Williams:That's it. You're right. I'm going to sue them. I knew this guy, right? You've got a job. And within one month, he had called in sick four times. And then when they fired him, he was like, I'm going to take them to a tribunal. And we were like, how? Like, you've called in sick four times because you went on the sesh. You can't then say that They have to pay you For firing you

22:32Joanne McNally:Sometimes you do have to accept that you are the problem And take accountability for that

22:37Vogue Williams:It's a rarity but sometimes That does happen Like when I got fired from the summit shop That was fair enough I think I might have been Taking some jellies for myself

22:49Joanne McNally:Jesus like I mean Hardly a crime Actually hold on

23:09Vogue Williams:I'm not being bad but I'm not going it's never emergency unless there's smoke I need to know something have either of you heard of a Le Boobie doll of course

23:22Joanne McNally:they're those Furbies that look like they've had veneers done in Turkey I don't know

23:24Vogue Williams:Yes. So, Joe, a LeBouBou doll is like this collectible doll that everybody is buying now. And the owner of LeBouBou, by the way, he was completely broke before he brought out LeBouBou. He only had 1.8 billion before LeBouBou. Completely broke.

23:42Joanne McNally:Awkward.

23:43Vogue Williams:And now he has 22.1 billion. That's, yeah, he's 38 years old. That's how much money that man has. it's this like anyway I kind of had avoided the trend because I feel like I've stopped being into trends like that since pogs and stickers that I used to collect remember stickers did you collect stickers do you want stickers like the oilies and the fluffies remember hold on what

24:09Joanne McNally:do you mean like actual stickers the shit that you pull back up stick into a sticker book and you collect

24:14Vogue Williams:some of them oh the joy of getting like that's like saying did you ever hear of a Barbie what are you on about of course of course Oh God, here's Sam. Thank God we've stopped bitching about Sam.

24:28Joanne McNally:Hiya. Podcast, podcast. By the way, Vogue is the laziest person I've ever met in my entire life. She got a massage on one of her arms yesterday. She got an arm massage.

24:40Vogue Williams:Good for her. Here's Sam complaining about his hamstring that the physio told me there was nothing wrong with it. She told me that it was like a strong gym workout and Sam's been limping around. Le boo-boos.

24:56Joanne McNally:Le boo-boos. Do you know that apparently they're saying it's what a French call an accident? Le boo-boo. Oh, a boo-boo. Le boo-boo. Sorry, they're saying it sounds like what a French person would call an accident. Le boo-boo. I don't think it's actually the French for I've caused an accident. Oh my God, I've le boo-boos. But yeah.

25:14Vogue Williams:Well anyway I've largely avoided the LeBouBou Because I was like I don't really want one for my bag I'm grand Remember I went through that phase of the bag crap company Now that I really love Bag crap Again it's not an ad I bought this stuff It's like a lot of crap on a Kieran But really cool crap Oh yeah Yeah so like I liked that But I didn't jump on the LeBouBou trend Because I was like this is stupid Anyway when I went to get my brows done with that girl Maria up here in Sheffield She was obsessed she is obsessed with LeBuboos she collects them, she's probably got about a hundred LeBuboos and you basically can buy them in this box and you get six in a box or something and the box costs 200 quid let's say and you'll get one special LeBuboos so everyone's trying to find this special LeBuboos that they don't know what it's going to look like and so she buys box on box on box and then just takes this special one out and then sells the excess LeBuboos Theodore came home just what, sorry?

26:10Joanne McNally:It's because it's just more shite in the world, isn't it? It's not terrible. That's what I think. I'm just like, where are all these LeBuboos going to go when no one cares about them in like six weeks time? People should be already recycling these things into some sort of bean bag or like some cat beds or something because they need to be put to use, these LeBuboos, because they're not going to be important. They're like the jelly babies. What were they called? The beanie babies. Remember the beanie babies? The beanie babies, yes. Yes. You know, where are the beanie babies now, huh? Beanbags. They're beanbags.

26:43Joanne McNally:You're right. Where are those beanie babies now? It's those scarcity marketing thing where they kind of, they make you feel like, it's collecting. People, people love the collectible thing. They love collecting and finding things.

26:53Vogue Williams:That's exactly what it is. But I wasn't going to do anything about the LeBuboos and Theodore came home from camp and he was like, please, please, can I have a LeBubo? And I was like, you're not getting a LeBubo. And then he was talking about a LeFouFou, which is basically a fake LeBubo. And I was like, and I looked up, obviously, because I try to be nice to him when he's been really well behaved and I looked up the boo-boos and I could only see one and it was 85 quid and I said, Theodore, you can forget about getting a le boo-boo. And anyway, I found myself in Maria's shop and she's telling me all about the le boo-boos and all of a sudden I was like, I really want a le boo-boo.

27:23Vogue Williams:I don't know why. I don't know why. I didn't just buy one le boo-boo because they were£35. I bought three le boo-boos. What? I bought three. I bought three and I kept the box. I'm not even taking them. I don't know. Listen, guys, I don't know how it happened I was really trying to avoid it but now I have three Le Boo Boo's and the only reason

27:42Joanne McNally:How do you know that they're not Le Foo Foo's?

27:44Vogue Williams:Because it's Le Boo Boo It says Le Boo Boo It's a Le Boo Boo That's all sense of meaning now That's the whole point of a fake Do you want to ring Maria at the Braille Society and tell her that you think that she is selling fake stolen goods? You've been done Vogue You've been done I haven't And it's about time

28:02Joanne McNally:to give me the Le Boo Boo bag I've been scammed more times than is fair or normal. So I'm delighted that you're now. I'll add you to the WhatsApp group. I'm glad it makes you feel better.

28:15Vogue Williams:Oh, crap, where's that gone?

28:17Joanne McNally:Fuck's sake. She's just throwing the camera off by holding something up to it, so now it's going to go to the roof. Oh, it's looking for me.

28:22Vogue Williams:Ah! They found me.

28:24Joanne McNally:There you are. There's that fucking idiot she's after spending£85 on Le Foufis.

28:33Vogue Williams:Joanne and Jo, I don't... I've said it before and I'll say it again green is not your colour and I don't like that you're jealous if you want me I'm in Sheffield for one more day if you want me to pick you up at a boo-boo I will think about it but I don't really have the space in my luggage but I will

28:47Joanne McNally:I knew these things and once one when I was in when I was in remember I was doing those shows in Brooklyn and there was a guy that came to one of the shows called John Mangrew who I was chatting to after because I was like who's this cool dude he is a designer he's an Irish he designs corsets he actually dresses Katy Perry so he's high fashion anyway so he's wearing like kind of he's dressed to impress he's wearing these huge kind of thigh high boots he was like he looked like he could just walk just a very cool fashion gay right anyway John had swinging on his handbag this little gremlin yoke and I said what the fuck is that and he said oh this is the little boo boo and then he started telling me about it and I knew I was like oh if John Mangvery he's wearing a LeBouBou.

29:35Joanne McNally:These things are coming in hot and heavy and fast. And I was right. He looks like, yeah, and he just said, I just want one because everyone has one and to collect them and blah, blah. So it is that, it's that marketing strategy of limited, limited, get them now, get them now, look for this. I'm going to be back on to Maria. What?

29:52Vogue Williams:I'll be back on to Maria in two minutes. You're making it seem like I want. Yeah.

29:57Joanne McNally:Marising you to go and buy more. Shite.

30:01Vogue Williams:Do you not even want one a tiny bit after talking about it? Be honest. Just be honest.

30:04Joanne McNally:No interest.

30:05Vogue Williams:Really? Not at all.

30:07Joanne McNally:Christ, I'm thinking I need to pick up another two before I go. As much as I have a young soul, I am still a 42-year-old woman and a teeny tiny teddy doll holds no appeal for me. Really doesn't. Especially, and they're weird looking. They look like a Teletubby. You know what, you're right. They look like a Teletubby on a bad trip. I also have a Teletubby, Curie. Oh yeah, of course. They're great. No, I love a Teletubby, but they do look like a Teletubby who's taken something bad. or like a telly tubby who's kind of stopped their meds or something don't they do you know what guys

30:38Vogue Williams:I completely I completely agree they're not even for me they're for my kids they're not for me I don't give a shit about the little boobus

30:45Joanne McNally:sure

30:47Vogue Williams:I got them for the gang you know

30:48Joanne McNally:well listen we all know I'm a Furby gal so I do feel like this is true and I have Furbies when I say fallen out of every drawer and wardrobe in the flat I keep finding them they're all over the place

31:02Vogue Williams:Why did you give Gigi a grown up adult handbag that now I've stolen instead of giving her one of your Furbies? What sense did that make? God, I never thought of giving her one of the Furbies. She would have loved a Furby. That I also would have stolen. I never thought about it.

31:25Joanne McNally:And they're gurgling all over the flat. They're constantly gurgling all over the flat. And I'm like, shut up.

31:31Vogue Williams:I'll give you this gorgeous stunning handbag that's clearly going to go into Vogue's wardrobe I don't know why instead of a Furby

31:38Joanne McNally:because she's such a little drag baby that I assumed she'd want something fashionable rather than a toy she just seems like that's just not her vibe

31:46Vogue Williams:I'm nearly ready to take her to get her ears pierced she's desperate oh get her belly button done as well will you I guess go on I guys I can still put a belly bar in my belly button do you think it's just a bit much with the li-boo-boo and the belly bar

32:01Joanne McNally:It's very 90s I think it's very Naughties coded Which I love It's very Y2K Isn't it The kind of belly button bar I remember that

32:10Vogue Williams:I'm going to get like A dangly chain on it Do you remember my eyebrow

32:13Joanne McNally:This was before our time vote But the eyebrow ring Was I think Shut up The eyebrow ring And it was like Hanging on by a thread Because it was growing out But I didn't know How to take it out And it was like Just kind of like There was only like A tiny bit of skin Out of it Because it was growing Out of the eye Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, yeah, rock and roll, baby.

32:39Joanne McNally:Sorry, there's someone cutting the grass. Sorry, it's just really hot in here, but I'm going to kill you. Cutting the grass or killing the cat, I can't tell. But either way.

32:48Vogue Williams:I thought she was going to go and tell them to stop. I was like, I don't think you can do that.

32:57Joanne McNally:There's a lot of talking about at the moment about the Irish presidency. Michael D is stepping down. Is he? I wasn't sure. I just assumed Michael D would just be there forever until like he was... Well, no one's ever going to force Michael D out. So he's obviously deciding to step down. Maybe there's only so many times you can be president. Is that it? I'll look into it.

33:16Vogue Williams:Oh, it might. There actually, there might be that rule. Isn't there that rule in America? You can be president twice. Yes. Thank God.

33:23Joanne McNally:Otherwise, you're going down the Putin road. I'd have a dictatorship from him I wouldn't mind

33:32Vogue Williams:I actually do think you're right I think that you can only run a couple of times because think about Mary McAleese, Mary Robinson they're the only ones I remember I googled it, two term maximum limit

33:42Joanne McNally:Oh god, we'll miss him Two and out

33:48Joanne McNally:I haven't been keeping an eye on it much but I did see something about is Michael Flatley running, is that actually true? I can't tell now what's AI and what's Waterford Whispers I can't believe anything I see now. So is Michael Flatley actually running for president? He is. Yes, he is. Brilliant. Are you thrilled? Would that be your candidate? I'll need to look into it. I don't want to make any rash choices.

34:09Vogue Williams:I was thinking of who I would love to run for. Yes.

34:13Joanne McNally:Yeah, you're going to give us your candidates this week and then I'm going to give my candidates next week. But I will say Michael Flatley tapping his way through Orson Uthron is quite an appealing option for me, I would say. Coming in sideways. Like the crab, do you remember? we were laughing just arms to the side

34:30Vogue Williams:I was thinking because somebody that's cropped up for me again this week only because me and Amber were laughing about it was do you remember the Sochi man remember that man who worked in Sentra and he did this whole video that went viral because he was like if fish is your fetish so we have a delicious range of Sochi and he just kept calling it Sushi, are we talking about Sushi is he no I don't remember him he basically he's in Sentra and he's shown off all the like the wares and all the really good offers and he's walks by the fish counter and he's like if fish is your fetish we have a fantastic range of sochi like he's never had and he just seems like so so kind and just like someone I think would be great in office

35:22Joanne McNally:love it I love to hear this yeah great That reminds me of, my mum was saying she had American family over once. And they were like, we went into Dublin City and we bought some Leprecheans. And my mother was like, you bought what? She's like, Leprecheans? And she meant leprechauns.

35:41Joanne McNally:Leprecheans. We went into Dublin City, we saw Trinity, and we bought some Leprecheans. I love a Leprechean. Oh my God. Okay, so he's your first candidate.

35:50Vogue Williams:I felt like it would be a miss not to nominate this man because I really feel like although he wasn't born in Ireland, he's worked hard. He's been there longer than I have. And he has now recently, recently achieved his Irish citizenship. He had to go somewhere with my brother and sit in a room. And like he had to do like your brother. Neil Wilson. Would he not be the greatest Irish president of all time?

36:17Joanne McNally:Sorry, okay, so Neil Wilson is, for anyone who doesn't know, your stepfather.

36:21Vogue Williams:Yes, and he has been in Ireland exactly three months longer than I have, because he arrived there three months before I was born. He took it slow. One thing he doesn't like, doesn't have a lot of time for many people. That's the only thing that makes.

36:35Joanne McNally:Yeah, yeah, that's okay, that's okay.

36:37Vogue Williams:He runs a tight ship, I don't think it's a bad suggestion. I just feel like he would run the country well, he would take no shit, he has gotten his Irish citizenship and it feels like it would go to a waste if he is not nominated or at least considered

36:49Joanne McNally:I would not mind paying my tax so much if I knew that Neil Wilson was in charge of running the country because my god there wouldn't be a penny wasted a penny wasted but I will say I am also aware that the president is not in charge of he has nothing to do with revenue and such but I'm just saying he does seem like that man he's good with his cash he's good with his money great suggestion anything else?

37:13Vogue Williams:Well I was thinking Deirdre O 'Cain mainly because she'd be great crack and she'd invite us to the summer parties and you know for us it's very important to be invited to the summer parties

37:20Joanne McNally:Oh my god I totally forgot we were snubbed by the president of Ireland and here's me saying he's doing a great job I take it back

37:31Vogue Williams:Don't worry Joanne he's on the way out my friend Good That'll learn I'm good We're only joking we love Michael D come on we love him I've got his books and I've got his little teddy bear come on We'll be invited next year. I can feel it.

37:43Joanne McNally:I feel it. You've got a Michael G. LaBoubou. Is that what you're saying? You've got a... I'd look at him and a LaBoubou. Why do I get it? LaBoubou has lost all sense of meaning.

38:01Joanne McNally:Thanks for listening. Well, if you did. But if you didn't, I guess. You didn't hear that. No, thank you. No, thank you. No point. No point. putting in the caveat of if you did.

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