In short
Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally banter about LA/New York stereotypes, American drinking habits, AI “news”/videos, airport security, and a real-life “weighted vest” mistaken as a suicide bomber; they also answer listener emails about dating safety and exploring a best-friend romance.
Guest backgrounds
Vogue Williams is an Irish media personality/comedian. Joanne McNally is an Irish comedian based in LA.
Key claims
LA requires money; Ferraris/valet culture signal wealth but can look “depressed.” Americans often drink vodka-and-orange-juice “screwdriver”/similar cocktails. Weighted vests can trigger armed sniper responses quickly. For dating, don’t fear exploring a mutual crush with a long-time friend; friendship is a strong foundation.
Notable examples
Chris O’Dowd orange-juice joke; a man surrounded by snipers while squatting in a massive weighted vest; being driven to a departing gate by airport staff; listener “Lucy” asks about a boyfriend taking her to a shooting range; email about kissing a best friend after years of tension.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCultural Reflections on LA and New York
0:45 to 6:40
Discussion about perceptions of living in LA vs New York, and cultural quirks.
“And he'd be like, yeah, just in orange juice.”
Impressions of Wealth and Appearance
6:40 to 10:00
Hosts share observations about wealth, appearances, and lifestyle in LA.
“Is it me putting a bigger room in Vancouver on?”
The Absurdity of Miscommunication
10:00 to 12:20
Humorous recount of a man mistakenly identified as a threat while exercising.
“And I asked, there was a man who looked like he was in a position of power, a lovely man with a buggy.”
Airport Experiences and Anecdotes
12:20 to 14:01
Hosts share their experiences with airport security and flight connections.
“I even think I saw Vogue in London the other week, but was too scared to say hello.”
The Challenges of Shout Outs
14:01 to 16:52
Exploring the dynamics of shout outs at shows and their impact on audiences.
“especially obviously when I'm on tour and we got them for Ghosted, people asking for shout outs.”
Exploring Romantic Tensions
16:52 to 18:28
A listener shares their experience of unexpected romantic feelings for a long-time friend.
“I kind of like that though the first time it happened was about oh nine years ago is this boy or girl Girl, girl, girl, boy, boy.”
Advice on Navigating Relationships
18:28 to 21:16
The hosts discuss the complexities of transitioning from friendship to romance.
“I know you live in different cities, but he'll move.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:10Vogue Williams:Hello and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally who is in LA.
0:18Joanne McNally:LA. I always find, I remember when, I remember I was saying this to Aisling Reed the other day and I remember when she was in, she's like, I'm just back from LA and I was like, ooh. I don't know why it's just like anyone can come here you know it's not like it doesn't mean anything but I just find it it's kind of like oh god you're really taken off aren't you you're in LA it's like you're free to come into the country if you have the right paperwork you know
0:43Vogue Williams:Chris O'Dowd I saw Chris O'Dowd on the on the Graham Norton show and he was talking about that like when he'd go home to Ireland because he lived in LA and he was just like sitting at a cafe or something he'd be like oh can I have an orange juice oh an orange juice Is that what you'd like? And he'd be like, yeah, just in orange juice. And they'd be basically like, oh, he's gone so LA because he's already himself in orange juice. Who do you think you are?
1:07Joanne McNally:You can't have notions when you're Irish. You can't do it. Not at all. We don't know where he was, where he asked for the orange juice. Do you know what I mean? It might have been somewhere, you know, basic. Not orange juicy, yeah. Yeah, exactly. But when I spent a week in New York, and I was like, God, I'm just, if I came here, I was like, I'm New York. it's who I am it's in my blood it's in my DNA and then I came to LA and I was like oh hold on a second maybe I'm LA which one do I think in my gym gear yeah taking edibles drinking juices I don't know I guarantee if I was here for any length of time I would be full Coachella I would be I would be cowgirl it's all very cowboy like there's a look there's a style it would be coin belts coin belts kind of dream catcher tattoos I'd probably go hard and then I'd get cancelled for cultural appropriation Yeah
1:59Vogue Williams:I just feel like LA you know there's some places and you're like it'd be a great place to live but I feel like that's one of the places that you have to be really rich like every like I just feel like there's certain places in the world that like if you wanted to live there like it's probably it's not great unless you have loads of money Well there's a big there's a big homeless community here but no
2:18Joanne McNally:there is there's definitely money in this town for sure like the I saw there's a lot you know they do the valet where they take the Yeah why am I explaining ballet? Everywhere in LA, it does ballet. It's ballet. And there was a, I assume there were a couple, they were driving like a Ferrari and they pulled up to a hotel and I was walking past and it was like, there was, you know, it was very impressive. The car was impressive. The lid was down, not the lid, the roof was down and they were incredibly good looking and I was like, ooh, who's this? Ooh. But they looked so depressed. Honestly. Did they?
2:54Joanne McNally:if they just had a fight. I don't know. They just looked so depressed.
2:59Vogue Williams:Well, Joan, that's why I have a Skoda and I don't have a Ferrari because I knew that if I got a Ferrari, I'd be very depressed. Very depressed. Yeah.
3:07Joanne McNally:No one's happy sitting in a lidless Ferrari. Very happy in the Skoda.
3:11Vogue Williams:Yeah, very happy in the Skoda. Yeah, it's good
3:13Joanne McNally:for your mental health. Keep you humble. But I did wonder, I was like, they're going to go in there now and it's LA, so they'll probably have a kale smoothie with a bit of tequila in it and then they'll go home and the cars, it's like whizzing through town it looks really really cool but they looked really sad so yeah What's it called?
3:31Vogue Williams:What's that drink called that they all drink? No they don't all drink I'm really generalising here but like whenever I go to some bars there's a lot of Americans that go there and they drink a drink it's vodka and orange juice basically but it's called is it called a screwball or something? Oh I don't know that Oh what's it called?
3:47Joanne McNally:I'll stick it on my to-dos
3:49Vogue Williams:A screwdriver So they like to have that at breakfast now I am generalising now but like sometimes like when we're in the sea in St. Barthes, it always sounds so like...
4:01Joanne McNally:And where's this going? When you're in the sea, okay.
4:04Vogue Williams:The Americans, right? They all have like their kind of, their Stanley Cup kind of things. And like, they're not full Stanley Cup. So they're like this size, but basically they fill them with tequila. And like, they're just kind of tipping away. Yeah. And like, there's a lot, I'm not saying every single American does it, but like a lot of them that I would see are just and I always wondered because they're always standing there in the sea with like a cup yeah
4:28Joanne McNally:and then and the Irish get this weird well it's not weird I suppose it does kind of we do drink I think it's because
4:34Vogue Williams:we can't hold our drink that's the problem I don't think it's because we drink I think if I was to stand in the sea with a cup how dare you how dare you
4:44Joanne McNally:speak for yourself speak for yourself
4:48Vogue Williams:I'm shameful I'm ashamed of when I have had a drink I can't hold it at all It's obvious within two drinks I fell asleep at the bar That's a good thing Did you? Yes, it was so embarrassing That's my parents-in-law's hotel And I fell asleep at the bar Did you?
5:08Joanne McNally:Was it past 6pm? Not really, it was around 6.30 Yeah, well there you go That's your bedtime And you're a woman of routine You were consistent I told you that
5:21Vogue Williams:And then also making a show of himself in the car park. Remember I told you that? Sure, I've the memory of a TikTok. We're in this lovely hotel that my parents-in-law own. And like, I fall asleep at the bar and then my brother is outside vomiting in the car park. And then the security rings Spetty's parents and they're like, is Spencer all right? He was vomiting in the car park last night. And Spetty's like, hang on a second. How dare you?
5:45Joanne McNally:It was my Irish in-laws making a show of us. Yeah.
5:51Vogue Williams:So that's, I do contribute to the Irish problem. The stereotype.
5:57Joanne McNally:Did you see the photo going around where a guy, they thought fell asleep at his desk, so all his co-workers got in to get a group photo and turns out he was dead?
6:07Vogue Williams:Yeah, but is that real or is it AI? I never like these things anymore because I don't know.
6:11Joanne McNally:I no longer check because it takes the crack out of everything. I watched a parrot. I spent several minutes watching a parrot, watching a parrot get a haircut the other day, only to discover it was AI. and I was bitterly disappointed. They gave him a bowler. Gave him a bowler. And they were putting highlights in it all. I was fascinated. I was like locked into this thing. And I was like, hold on a second.
6:31Vogue Williams:It's just so, it's so, it really aggravates me because I just want it to be real. Did you see, did you see the best news story of the entire week? And I've double, triple checked it. It's not AI.
6:42Joanne McNally:Is it me putting a bigger room in Vancouver on? Pluggy, plug, plug.
6:46Vogue Williams:No, but I am, sorry.
6:48Joanne McNally:Actually, yes, it was. about that. That's the story. That's the story. Thank you. Thanks for the segue. Toronto, Vancouver, we've added, we've moved them to a bigger room. Please. Come now. You better come now because you asked me to do this, so I've done it. You can't leave me sitting in the wind at that venue now. Okay.
7:09Vogue Williams:Sitting in the wind at Tumbleweed.
7:11Joanne McNally:Yeah. Across the stage. I've done what I've been told to do. I'm very well behaved. You have to come now. You've got to go.
7:19Vogue Williams:Bring your friend, bring your mom bring everyone so this news story was there was a man and he was in um he was in the park he was just living his life he was trying to be really healthy he was doing a squat and then all of a sudden he's surrounded oh my god all of a sudden he's surrounded by a shitload of snipers yeah fully armed pointing guns at them he's got the lasers on his head and they're like get down get down and so what actually happened was he was in the park trying to live his life trying to better himself trying to do a little bit of exercise and then somebody walked by and rang the police and said there's a man with with with a bomb vest on suicide vest suicide vest a suicide bomber vest on your man is standing there doing his squats it's a weighted vest so he's standing there and then he has to try and explain it to the snipers and then after the whole incident happened and he wasn't even annoyed.
8:18Vogue Williams:He was like, I kind of, I can understand why they thought that.
8:21Joanne McNally:Well, sorry now, because I looked, I had a good look at that weighted jacket and it is massive. It is, it does look like you're there for sinister purposes. It's absolutely, how he walks in the thing, I doubt, like, there must be 60 kilos in it. Oh, it was a bit, you'd want to watch out
8:41Vogue Williams:with those little leg wakes you go around in.
8:43Joanne McNally:I know. I'm going to get taken to the ground and tasered. With any luck, you will. Yeah, you will. But I didn't know it was that easy to just get to call a sniper team. Like, what? How quick? How long was he squatting for?
8:56Vogue Williams:Is there a different number? Is there a different number as well?
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8:59Joanne McNally:Or is it just 999? How available are they? Like, people say when you call an ambulance, it takes ages to come. Or the sniper is just sitting there waiting. They're probably bored. And she must have sent a photo to them. And surely you would think that they would be more trained, that they'd be like, I hear, that's a way to jack it. No. God, in they went with their laser guns and their weapons. And had him down on his knees. And that's how he got back up with the weight of that jacket.
9:22Vogue Williams:Imagine the fright you'd get. I'd be there with my headphones on and you'd just be surrounded by people pointing guns at you. It'd be awful, actually. It would be awful.
9:31Joanne McNally:Put you off exercise for life. And it was in America, wasn't it? Because you don't... Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was in America. You don't fuck with the American police. I can tell you. Or the cabin crew, let me tell you. Why? What happened? You don't fuck with airport staff in America. So in America, so they don't have they have this TSA thing where you can kind of skip they don't have but I can't sign up to TSA because I'm not an American citizen that's my understanding but like the security cues and you just like so I because I was I was I was when I was flying when I was getting the flight from New York there was a huge traffic incident on the way to the airport Ross actually missed his plane missed his flight and had to get another one and I was I was cutting close I was cutting close right so we were an hour longer on the drive to the airport and then we got there and the security queue I mean it was like it was I was in it for an hour I think it's always bad in America it's always I was in it for an hour in a security queue right and I said to one of the women in staff and I said come here I'm going to miss my flight and in Ireland in Ireland or the UK I do genuinely believe they'd be like because they know the queue is super slow do you know when you kind of do you know when it just keeps going back on itself looping looping yeah and you're like no oh my god do not tell me there's another loop here there can't be another loop and they're just the staff they're quite you know they're not you know and listen I'm sure it's a very stressful job but it's computer says no and they're I was like I'm going to miss the flight and she's like no and is it are you coming for a connected flight no I'm going to miss the flight she's basically like tough shit you're not skipping the queue I was like okay fine because I've seen you know usually there's a queue for like if your flight's about to take off that's what checking anyway got through I was like fine got through literally, I'd say, my flight was boarding and it was about to do its final call, flashy thing.
11:22Joanne McNally:And I asked, there was a man who looked like he was in a position of power, a lovely man with a buggy. And I was like, where am I? What gate? And he was like, jump in. I'll drive you. Amazing. So I jumped in the back and I think he drove slower than I would have walked, to be honest. And he was making the horn noise with his own mouth. It was so funny. beep beep beep beep on the move car on the move car on the way i'll send you the video and it was so everyone's just staring at me as i move at a glazed pace
11:59Joanne McNally:beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep he's doing it with his own head that was really nice of him it was hilarious i got out and i nearly kissed his hand i i want when i say when i arrived to the gate there was four people left to get on the plane and i wouldn't i genuinely wouldn't have made it because even though he was driving slowly it was still quicker than I could have potentially walked and it was like the last gate in the airport you know what I mean but what's my point
12:23Vogue Williams:people being dicks I don't even know
12:36Vogue Williams:Vogue and Joanne my name is Lucy and I live in Wandsworth hello Lucy I wanted to message in me and all my girls listen to you every single week and then we talk about what you say in the group chat. It's so sad, but it gives us life. We love you. I even think I saw Vogue in London the other week, but was too scared to say hello. And plus, I didn't actually know if it was her. Maybe, Vogue, you can confirm if you're coming out of Pratt on the Strand about a week ago. I don't know when you sent this in, but I do frequent a press. If it was a morning time, you can be nearly sure it was me because I'd have been in for the porridge.
13:10Vogue Williams:Anyway, the girls bet me that I couldn't get this message read out on the podcast. So if you actually see this or even read this, we'll all freak out and they'll owe me a drink or something. Also, I want to ask you what you think of this. My boyfriend, who I've been with for four years, wants to go to the shooting range as a date. Is he trying to murder me? Can you say hello to Ali, Annabelle and Hope? Thank you. Nice work for Berg.
13:41Vogue Williams:Joanne absolutely by the way anyone wants to do get a birthday message for Canada she loves doing birthday messages
13:47Joanne McNally:it's so funny so we and Vogue have talked about this before I had no idea before I got into stand up or before I got into performing I had no idea that people asking for shout outs at shows was a thing I just didn't know it was a thing I get several messages I'd say especially obviously when I'm on tour and we got them for Ghosted, people asking for shout outs. I was like, I just never knew that was a thing. But I can't do shout outs at shows because it's not in any way entertaining for anyone, only the people getting shouted out. So it's just boring for everyone else. Like you can't do them. But I was like, I had no clue that they were, that was a thing.
14:23Joanne McNally:But yeah, so we've just done a shout out for someone. We could do shout outs on the pod. That's fine. It just doesn't work for shows.
14:29Vogue Williams:I don't think weekly shout outs are going to be fun for anyone either. it's like at the Panto you know at the Panto at the end they literally list through people's names but they're like Theodore, Gigi Otto and that's how quickly they go
14:42Joanne McNally:there was a cinema that I used to go to when I was a child in Glastonale in Dublin and it was like quite old school there'd be people cartwheeling in the aisles and no one cared but during the break in the film they used to read out they used to do happy birthday messages out with the tannoy I know it was great everyone loves everyone loves a birthday shout out they do sadly I just can't do them at shows do you remember we used to ring up radio stations to try and get birthday shout outs as well all summer you'd be sitting in your friend's kitchen ringing off the landline long wave 252 to try and get them to do you a birthday shout out it wasn't even your birthday you thought you were a mad bastard you're like ha ha it's not even my birthday it would take you two months to get it across the line ha ha you loser yeah anyway your boyfriend taking you to the shooting range yeah he is trying to kill you so
15:30Vogue Williams:don't go I went to where would you get a shooting range over here is what I'm wondering but I actually I went to a shooting range before in America Did you? Yeah well for a TV show I was going to get with this woman who had 250 guns and then her husband had his own gun room and I just thought where do you need all the guns for? God knows if she's still going I haven't seen quite shooty shooty in that house imagine 500 guns in your gaff
15:57Joanne McNally:Yeah you wouldn't want to have a heated argument See, this is what happens. This is what happens. I have a terrible temper. You do? I couldn't have anything in the house. I could see you. I'd be on my knees, you'd have a gun to my head and you'd be like, apologize now.
16:11Vogue Williams:Okay, fine. Gave you a chance. Yeah.
16:14Joanne McNally:Pow, pow. Down she goes. Yeah, yeah. It's funny when you're not used to gun culture, seeing a gun, I remember coming out of an airport in Vienna. Yeah, and the police were armed and I remember, I was quite confronting. I was a bit freaked. because it's they're scary
16:31Vogue Williams:I don't really trust I don't trust anyone with a gun no
16:35Joanne McNally:I certainly don't trust a child with a gun have you ever seen them yeah god almighty Jesus Christ
16:41Vogue Williams:okay here's an email I accidentally hooked up with my best friend three times Joanne and Vogue I hooked up with my best friend on Saturday not exactly a brand new development which is part of the problem I kind of like that though the first time it happened was about oh nine years ago
16:58Joanne McNally:is this boy or girl Girl, girl, girl, boy, boy.
17:00Vogue Williams:Yeah, I think it's boy, girl. Okay. Afterwards, he told me he loved me for fuck's sake. Oh, wow. I think that's nice. That would put... Do you know what though? Put anyone off.
17:13Joanne McNally:It's the law of physics. You want what you can't have. It's the push and pull.
17:17Vogue Williams:If he said, I fucking hate you,
17:19Joanne McNally:this would be a different email. Yeah, you'd be like, I'm all about it.
17:22Vogue Williams:Yeah. The second time was two years ago, right before I moved away. I definitely had a bit of a crush on him back then, but he wasn't really in the right headspace for anything. Fast forward to this weekend. We were out watching rugby and having pints. At some point during the night, he apparently had a chat with my cousin about the two of us and what he actually thinks. I have absolutely no idea what was said, but the plot thickens. Later, we ended up back at his base, made Cosmos because obviously that's the next logical step after pints. And then he kissed me. One thing led to another. Here's the thing.
17:56Vogue Williams:I feel ridiculously comfortable with him. We've known each other for nearly 10 years now And everyone who sees us together said there's always been A luck or some kind of tension between us Which is both validating and deeply unhelpful The complication is that we live in different cities And I'm slightly terrified of messing up A decade-long friendship But also, what if this is actually something? So the question is Do I risk the friendship but explore it Or do we pretend the pints, rugby and cosmos Were simply a perfect storm? please advise before the next round happens
18:30Joanne McNally:you gotta explore it you gotta explore it
18:34Vogue Williams:and imagine imagine getting to marry your best friend
18:39Joanne McNally:any man who drinks Cosmos is tick tick but do you know what I do think is interesting I find that men are way quicker to explore a female friendship potential fancying situation than women we're more like we're gonna ruin the friendship men are like I don't care
18:58Vogue Williams:yeah I mean you can you can make more friends
19:01Joanne McNally:do you know what I mean if all a guy's tits up I want to ride you and I want to see how it feels and then if we never look each other in the eye again I'm over it whereas women are like I kind of value the friendship this man though I mean he's told you he's in love with you and I believe him so that's the thing I think this is more than just a you know a quick casual fondle yeah fondle in the evening I think you're going to end up going out with this man and probably marrying him This is quite exciting. It is. Keep us updated.
19:30Vogue Williams:I know you live in different cities, but he'll move. Tell him to move.
19:34Joanne McNally:Oh, I forgot about the different cities thing. Who cares? Move. Who cares?
19:39Vogue Williams:No, he can move. He can move. He'll move.
19:41Joanne McNally:Or you move for the adventure. Move. Come to LA. Live with me in the hill. Yeah. Take meetings. Take meetings. Take meetings with me. Take meetings. Take pointless, useless, countless meetings. but I do think if I and I also I'm so like oh my god wouldn't it be so nice to have a crush Vogue you must miss that I miss it do you know what
20:04Vogue Williams:you are lucky yeah but you can have it you can do that I know
20:07Joanne McNally:I need to get out there I was I was texting a guy recently and when I say I put a fizz in my step I was like I put a fizz in my step now it didn't come to anything but I was like just a little bit of excitement just a little bit of just a bit of something it's coming to the summer it's time you need a bit of fizz in the step and to have a crush like that and especially when you know he's got serious feelings for you maybe that's why she's hesitant because she's like oh if we do this we're like doing this yeah but you kind of have feelings for him too so I think so and I think friendship is the best solid grounding weren't you and Spano friends before you started hooking up yeah for about four and a half minutes
20:49Vogue Williams:but yes we were originally friends yeah yeah for a day well now in fairness we were trying to we were kind of like that we were like hooking up but then it was like no we're friends we're friends we're not going so yeah
21:01Joanne McNally:it's a nice thing yeah it is I think friendship is the absolute basis I've gone out with lads that I got to know over a space of a couple of years and then ended up going out with them and obviously then it all went tits up but I do think friendship is a great basis
21:15Vogue Williams:I agree everyone thank you so much for listening explore that thing
21:19Joanne McNally:stick on your head torch take out your spade and explore that man
21:23Vogue Williams:Oh God Don't go excavating him
21:31Joanne McNally:Pull him apart Fillet him like a fish As Joanne says Good luck Go full Columbus on him See what he has to offer
21:47Vogue Williams:Everyone thank you so much for listening That's been the bonus episode And we'll see you for the main Thank you.
22:26Vogue Williams:This has been a Global Player original production.
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