MTGM EXTRA! "Ghosted after HOW long?!"

10:07Joanne McNally:yeah I think you were roofied at the end of that water slide and you don't know it and someone did something to you and then put you back but in the wrong position. Like when, do you know, it's like, because there's just, I'm sorry, there's no amount of water in the world that could reverse a tampon inside you and flip it upside down. Not happening.

10:26Vogue Williams:Joanne, I'm afraid that you cannot, you actually, having not experienced it, you cannot judge that. And no, I don't have a giant vagina. Do you remember when I had the electric chair in my home for months? This shit is like sorted down here. That, and it was a, And it was a regular tampon. Okay.

10:44Joanne McNally:Okay, folk. I'm just saying you're opening yourself up to photos where it didn't happen. I've never heard. I've never, I've never. Like, tampons are hard enough to get out with pure force. Do you know? That's why they have to string. You have to pull them out. So you're saying the water flipped. What do gladiators do to your body? This is suspicious. The water.

11:05Vogue Williams:We can get some data on it. There is an email address. if anybody's got any data on this then do let us know has a tampon ever flipped inside you when you went on the water slide I think you

11:19Joanne McNally:a blow up water slide I think this was a sort of ayahuasca event and you didn't realise and I think you were unconscious for part of it

11:26Vogue Williams:how desperate are you to go on the water slide now though how desperate

11:31Joanne McNally:not desperate at all I don't need find it to be a very enjoyable experience I don't need to be widened down there. I am perfectly fine with my gait. This comes back to your wide gait, folk.

11:47Vogue Williams:My wide gait.

11:48Joanne McNally:This comes back to your wide gait. I mean, I've had, and this is where, I know I feel bad for my listeners, but I've had situations where I've certainly lost a tampon inside myself. It has gone AWOL and had to be excavated out. But it was still in the same position. That it went in in.

12:10Vogue Williams:Excavation's a powerful thing. I think you just put it.

12:12Joanne McNally:My gut says you put it. Tampons? No, Vogue. It says you put the tampon in upside down and you forgot. I didn't. Because you're a secret alcoholic.

12:19Vogue Williams:Because I use the applicator.

12:23Joanne McNally:Finally, we can admit it. Thank you, Lou. I was just covering for her. It's her. She's the problem.

12:29Vogue Williams:In fairness, now this is going to sound bad. I don't know if I wanted to be left in, but when I had had a few drinks, I did put a second tampon in. Of course. Forgetting about the first job We've all done that And then the next morning I was like Oh! Whoa

12:41Joanne McNally:Oh we've all done that Sometimes it's like pulling rabbits out of a hat You're like Jesus Christ How many did I get in there? Oh yeah we've all done that Oh no Yeah we've all done that That's where I think they should have a little alarm in them An alarm but like maybe to be

12:59Vogue Williams:I think that they should be like less dangerous Can't you get like toxic shock syndrome

13:04Joanne McNally:Toxic shock syndrome yeah and that's a real thing. There was a very, she's very famous, well now because of what happened to her but there was a model, I think she's South African or American. I'd have to fact check that which obviously I won't do but her parents found her face down on the ground on the ground, in her flat, toxic shock syndrome, both legs amputated. Yeah. Now I don't know what the stats are. I feel like for the amount of women who are using tampons that maybe it's not that common an occurrence but I mean it is a risk for sure.

13:35Vogue Williams:Just be careful out there.

13:36Joanne McNally:I do, I do. Just be careful out there.

13:38Vogue Williams:Tampons are a dangerous game. Jesus. But I'd rather that than the alternative.

13:42Joanne McNally:Being a woman is a dangerous game.

13:53Vogue Williams:Girls, I'm not winning much at the moment. So looking to claim a title if it's there for the taking. Sure. I've just been fully, completely, entirely and totally ghosted. by my boyfriend of, wait for it, five and a half years. What? I mean...

14:16Joanne McNally:I really thought you were going to say months there. Oh my God.

14:23Vogue Williams:I went straight to thinking his mother has done a terrible job, but I can't blame her for that.

14:28Joanne McNally:It's his fault too. Oh, I'd say Otto's got a couple of Goustins in him. Let's face it. the stories you're telling about that lad of late

14:38Joanne McNally:he's turned a corner he's turned a corner if there's anything

14:41Vogue Williams:Spain has done it has turned he's turned a corner

14:43Joanne McNally:yeah no one can see him anymore that's a ghosting okay this is terrible

14:50Vogue Williams:if you're a numbers gal you know that means we met when the clock struck Covid okay we aren't I wouldn't say we're complete numbers girls but anyway literally polar opposite really but yeah

15:02Joanne McNally:I'm like so it was the 70s carry on

15:07Vogue Williams:literally three weeks before lockdown was our first date we got through that moved in pretty soon because of it and I've had a great few years or so I thought the sex probably wasn't the same as it was to start with but it surely never is five years in

15:23Joanne McNally:everything changes

15:24Vogue Williams:I've tried my best to think back through any signs but I honestly don't think there were any I've had a couple of pretty tough nights but I'm coming through it now. Sharing it with you is part of my unofficial therapy. So can I start the bidding at five and a half years and see if anyone has been ghosted? She says she's had a couple of months of tough nights. Oh a couple of months.

15:47Joanne McNally:I was, I did think wow this is a very resilient woman. I'd be in an echo chamber on Valley 24-7. The weekend was difficult but I'm alright

16:00Vogue Williams:right now.

16:01Joanne McNally:Oh my god.

16:02Vogue Williams:It was a holiday again but I'm over it. I don't even know where. I actually think that that's something you're going to tell people until the day you die because it's such a shocking I would like, I'd love more insight into that. Like what happened? Did he just, did you go home one day and he was just gone? I would actually

16:22Joanne McNally:ask for more detail if we can get it from this woman who was a victim of something, a heinous act of like insensitivity and absolute brutal rudeness

16:34Vogue Williams:ring his mom and tell her tell his mom on her it's always I'd tell his mom I'd say

16:42Joanne McNally:like look I've the mother doesn't mothers love their sons that's what I've learned over the years and they will side with their sons ultimately

16:51Vogue Williams:that is that is that is dirty shocking behaviour and he is an absolute pile of shit

16:58Joanne McNally:He's a gee bag But I would need I would like to have more detail Genuinely You can contact me privately Or via the

17:05Vogue Williams:Via mtgmpod.com Do it via this And we'll get back to that one Because that is very interesting

17:12Joanne McNally:That would suggest to me He's having some sort of Mental event Like did he take the furniture? Has he blocked her? Like what are the details here? Is there someone else involved? Of course there is Sorry that's always my take on it Jo as well you know men don't leave to be on their own men only jump when they're somewhere to jump to they're like frogs on lily pads that's always been the way has she heard anything of him since has she how far has she gone to try and contact him what's the crack

17:44Vogue Williams:has he just gone yeah has he just gone in fairness I know this was a terrible thing that happened to you but I do wish that it happened to me a couple of times to be fair

17:52Joanne McNally:yeah fair yeah imagine going home and they're gone yes yeah sometimes you're like a little spooky behaviour on their part would go very far for us actually I know but ultimately the bottom line is that it's a weakness on his side like it's it's very cowardly and like look it's pathetic it is pathetic that is pathetic for sure these are conversations that are very tough to have and some people literally just don't have the emotional ability to have them they just do not have them but rest assured this will sit this is a stain on him for the rest of his life like he will remember this as much as you will and you get to walk away with your head held high and be like look what this fella did to me how embarrassing and this is as Nora Offren's mother said everything is copy you'll tell the story and everyone will love the story and lean in and want to hear more it's a great conversation starter

18:43Vogue Williams:we do need more we need more but will I do the other email and we'll wait for more of this one for next week because I think that that would be really good if you wouldn't mind sending us the rest in God what a wanker honestly Very strange behaviour. Very. Just, it is just really odd behaviour though. It's like, is he having a mental breakdown or is he just that much of a dickhead and it is so pathetic and as you said, cowardly.

19:06Joanne McNally:Immature. I would say there's no emotional, it's very immature. He just cannot have, he's just not equipped for the conversation. He's just not equipped. He just literally can't do it. He just ran. You know, he just bailed. I used to hate breaking up with people though to death. Oh, it's horrible. It's awful. but it's just a conversation that has to be had it's just one of those things in life you can't bail you know unless you're 13 you can't just run away oh maybe he was 13

19:34Joanne McNally:was this an Irish college? this did happen in the 70s as far as Vogue and our maths has concluded it was the 70s so maybe he was 13

19:43Vogue Williams:okay here's another one I would love any of your advice or insight into starting to date after a long term relationship oh no No, this is bad. Long, boring story short. I find myself single after being married for 24 years. Very hard. Very hard. Oh, no. There's good news. As you can imagine, this is all a bit daunting and very new for me. The apps. The putting yourself out there as a 45-year-old. You are so young. The change my body has gone through after having two kids, etc.

20:13Joanne McNally:Yeah, different beast. Different beast.

20:16Vogue Williams:I'm finding it hard to be my usual confident self online. I really want to lean into my cougar adolescence phase, but don't know where to begin. Thoughts. I would, this is the best thing that I ever did for myself after breaking up with somebody at the age of 30 and thinking that I'd never get married and I'd never have kids. I was so worried. I thought my life was literally over. I was like a divorced 30 year old. I felt like a fucking loser. And the best thing that I ever did because I was in relationship after relationship, long-term relationships my whole life and I spent time on my own for the first time and I hated it at the start and I was like you know I actually love this each each each week it got easier and easier and I was just really really enjoying myself and by the time I did get into another relationship with Spencer like I kind of didn't want to be in a relationship because I was enjoying being on my own so much so I think if you can find a way to start enjoying your own company without having someone to rely on because when you have a partner of 24 years like that's like your like you'd never have to go anywhere on your own you've got that crutch to go to a party with you just have to try and get over those really hard bits

21:21Joanne McNally:in one way I think actually when you're with someone that long you're wired to be in a pair so you're naturally you want to jump back into that situation and I think that for some people that's the right thing to do being on your own it's hard I was only thinking about this last week because I'm still writing for being a phone like trying to add bits and stuff like being on your own it is it's fucking hard and the longer you're on your own the longer it becomes or the harder it becomes to get into a relationship again because you've all your own little weird ways and I can understand her wanting to get back out there and also kind of the validation that comes with being attractive or being attracted to somebody and all those flutters and the crushes and all like it is lovely but you know what I would say apparently the dating apps are on the way out now I don't think they're on the way out but apparently Bumble let go of like 45 % of its staff or something people aren't using them in the same way and now it's gone back to this kind of almost vintage nostalgic way of meeting which is going out but you know what I started doing and I never went because that's what I do but I did book and then cancel almost immediately but I will go back to them there's these I don't know where this woman is based do we know where she's based because this is a London thing anyway there's these new ways of meeting people where you book a table you add your name to the list in your local area and they book a table for five people through this app.

22:44Joanne McNally:There's no romantic expectations. It's just five strangers and you answer a questionnaire beforehand about like your interests and your hobbies and things like that. And then they match you with these people. It could be all women. You don't know. Or it could be you and four men, whatever. And then you go and you have dinner in a restaurant and it's like a two hour window and you just get to know them. And I was thinking that's actually a really good way to go about it because it isn't the same pressure of matching with someone on a dating app and then just going one to one and kind of interviewing each other without anyone there that it's more like a natural way back into a social scene because also when you're married I don't know I've never been married but I'm assuming your kind of social scene has to change as well because usually married people hang out with married people so if no one around you is married like you need to kind of meet single people or yeah people who live on their own in your local area so I don't know where she's based and I can't remember the name of the app it's called Find Friends or something I thought that was I thought that was a nicer way of doing it I was thinking about doing it that way.

23:44Joanne McNally:And then you just meet interesting people and then it kind of will go towards filling some of the void that's there anyway.

23:50Vogue Williams:Yeah, I think that that's a really nice idea to do that and to try and just get yourself back out there and to meet people instead of having to do it by an app. But also, now I don't want this to sound bad but I get what you're saying about married people kind of sticking together and wanting to go out with married people. Like I'm very, not that I'm very careful but like I like having my separate friends and I like Spenny to have his separate friends and I want him to go out I just think it's really important to have your own sets of friends and your own interests and not just always be doing stuff just together.

24:21Vogue Williams:Like you'll obviously do stuff together but also just being your own separate entity is really important to keep that in any relationship.

24:27Joanne McNally:Of course. And coming out of a 24 year marriage is a 24. That is a life altering event. Do you know what I mean? You have to reboot everything. So I don't know if we've really given advice. I don't know. I do think the friends thing is felt to me like a more organic way of meeting people because yeah the dating apps they're like they're stressful and they're hard and also I know this sounds so stupid get out of the house and I say that to myself as well get out and about it's always through friends of friends is the best way to meet people except it's just there's no one around anymore everyone's dead well you're you're no people are getting divorced now it's around that time not as many as you think folk that was very much what I was waiting for yeah things seem to be really people seem to be really buckling down really giving that marriage a go people are really taking those values inconsiderably seriously I think I read

25:29Vogue Williams:I read too many books where there's all these single billionaires and it's just it's obviously not the reality is it not? no well there you go Do you have any more advice? My advice would be if you're going to go down and water slide wear a pad.

25:44Joanne McNally:That's not real life that's Jilly Keeper. I do think the longer you're out and the harder they are to get back in. So yeah I would say jump straight in. Straight in. Ask no questions. Don't even ask a second name. Just move in with them.

25:58Vogue Williams:Thank God. I'm sorry about that. That's really tough. Thank you.

26:01Joanne McNally:It is tough for me. Thank you Vogue. It's not often you give me sympathy like that and I do appreciate it.

26:08Vogue Williams:Oh my god, imagine you met someone at my birthday I've no one to check my moles I'll check your moles I have too many, I have to go into a special place I was gonna say

26:17Joanne McNally:You have enough of your own moles Yeah,

26:22Vogue Williams:no one can be checking my moles I literally have to go somewhere You've got 1300 marks in your body Yeah, I know She's like, I have to do a week They're like I book it and they're like Yeah, it's 250 quid to get your moles checked and then I walk in they're like oh no sorry we didn't realise it's actually 1500 quid for you

26:41Joanne McNally:we've had to call for backup we're getting doctors out of retirement and everything the team we have to grow it so much

26:53Vogue Williams:well thanks everyone for listening and please do send your emails in to ah come on come on come on man I'm going to be honest I had a few drinks last night again and I know I said I wasn't drinking again oh yeah but my brain is a bit foggy you do it hello at mtgmpod at gmail.com shut up she's rage baiting isn't that global this is Jojo Seawash hello at mtgm I have two other pods I have to remember too many emails I've got my own personal email it's a lot oh I'm sorry folk

27:30Joanne McNally:I'm sorry that you're too busy with your other podcast this is your main podcast This is your bread, potato, and butter. Darling! Darling, of course, darling! That's a real Spano thing. Hello at mtgmpod.com

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28:24Vogue Williams:Evening. Buyer's remorse. Buy a new car? I'll be moving in. Let's get started.

28:30Joanne McNally:Uh, sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana.

28:33Vogue Williams:You what?

28:34Joanne McNally:Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it.

28:37Vogue Williams:So there's no...

28:38Joanne McNally:No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyer's rejoice. I guess I'll let myself out.

28:45Vogue Williams:Congratulations.

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