In short
The episode is a comedic “MTGM EXTRA!” discussion sparked by an anonymous email from a woman who turned 37 and says her libido “is through the ROOF.” She claims she’s been constantly hooking up with younger men (1–4 times a week), most of whom are respectful, bring their own condoms, and like her full bush/leg hair and her belly/stretch marks. The hosts debate whether younger men’s tastes have shifted away from “heroin chic”/skinniness fetishization, and they joke about pregnancy, cravings, and neighbor life (WhatsApp groups, stolen deliveries, pigeons).
Notable examples
a story about eggs delivered to the wrong place; elephants being dangerous; “Butterfly Effect” time-travel; BAFTAs/Jerry Hall smoking anecdotes.
Guests
none—this is a two-host episode (Joanne and Vogue Williams).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPlayful Banter and Dress Discussion
0:02 to 1:30
A light-hearted exchange about each other's appearances and attire.
“This is a Global Player original podcast.”
Time Travel and Butterfly Effect
1:30 to 3:40
Discussion about time travel, movies, and their implications on life choices.
“But the film Butterfly Effect was like, if you go back in time, every single thing you check, things you think you would change, and then it has this massive knock-on effect.”
Celebrity Commentary: Ashton Kutcher
3:40 to 4:50
Insights on Ashton Kutcher's controversial moments and public image.
“I shouldn't have fucking told you in six weeks.”
Pregnancy and Personal Life Updates
4:50 to 7:40
The hosts share updates about pregnancy and personal experiences.
“Imagine when an elephant just strolled around the garden and clap him.”
Neighborhood Dynamics and WhatsApp Groups
7:40 to 10:00
Conversations about neighbors, community interactions, and WhatsApp groups.
“I wouldn't, do you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Spenny had a bit of an incident.”
Delivery Mix-Ups and Neighborhood Stories
10:00 to 12:00
A humorous recount of grocery delivery issues and neighborhood anecdotes.
“Yeah, it was really late Yeah Mental health Okay, no, I didn't think so No Well, that's what you get Yes.”
Friendships and Celebrity Connections
12:00 to 14:01
Discussion on friendships, celebrity interactions, and social events.
“I have the odd one when I'm drinking, but I don't like, I'm not a smoker, but like the smell of smoke when I'm pregnant.”
Celebrating Jerry Hall's Birthday
14:01 to 14:20
The hosts discuss Jerry Hall's upcoming birthday and their excitement.
“well, I mean, obviously everyone adores Jerry Hall.”
A Listener's Libido Awakening at 37
14:21 to 17:08
The hosts read and react to a listener's experience with a heightened libido at 37.
“Oh my god, you didn't get a nod to the 70s, Joanne.”
Generational Differences in Men's Preferences
17:09 to 17:40
The hosts discuss how younger men have different body preferences compared to older generations.
“They're more progressive, I would say, than our generation of men.”
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Body Positivity and Changes
17:41 to 18:36
The conversation shifts to discussing body positivity and personal body changes over time.
“But I think our, like, the men who are our age were as brainwashed as we were.”
Reflections on Book Purchases
18:51 to 19:45
The hosts reflect on book purchasing experiences, particularly in airports.
“Good for you, supporting your fellow writers.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:05Joanne McNally:Don't you dare try and throw me under the bus as a person of privilege. I have no front garden.
0:11Vogue Williams:Okay, put it in the swimming pool then. Put it in the swimming pool. We've got to do something about the pigeons.
0:18Joanne McNally:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be you, yeah. Just flagging that I have a sex life, Joanne, you clearly don't. Happy to answer any questions.
0:29Hello
0:31Vogue Williams:I just can't get used to having her back I can't get used to it Hello
0:37Joanne McNally:I'm still here Now I am dressed A little unusually today Just if anyone's actually watching this Jo says I look like a Roman emperor Greek actually I think it's more Greek
0:51Vogue Williams:Sorry, a Greek emperor with a von dutch leopard print hat and I didn't say emperor I said someone from the ancient Greek times you've elevated yourself to emperor I didn't say that I think she looks like a washer woman what's a washer woman? she does the washing like a washer woman from the olden days you know those women who used to wear the rags in rivers and wash people's clothes an emperor have you fucking seen her? that wasn't my words I didn't say that I can't believe I just
1:23Joanne McNally:promoted myself to emperor and yes I'm a Roman emperor with the Von Dutch hat because I have a time machine okay I was just in Pompeii doing my bits and bobs and then I came back through my space Pompeii was it Pompeii I was trying to warn them about the impending explosion of Vesuvius to see can I shift time remember the butterfly effect the butterfly effect that they were like I actually really like that film
1:46Vogue Williams:great film I just don't like I don't like Ashton Kutcher but I think that's for other reasons yeah
1:50Joanne McNally:Well, he wasn't very nice to Demi Moore, and we know that now. But the film Butterfly Effect was like, if you go back in time, every single thing you check, things you think you would change, and then it has this massive knock-on effect. I think he kind of unalived himself in the end, didn't he, Joe? Just to kind of keep the time continued. Well, we don't want to spoil a film,
2:08Vogue Williams:no matter how long ago it came out. No spoilers. No one's watching anything. No one's watching anything. Do you think anyone's typing in Ashton Kutcher to Netflix? I don't think so. Go and watch it. Go and watch the Butterfly Effect. But Asha Kutcher Has a fairly decent career Oh no sorry he's not He's been cancelled Forgot about that It's not that he's been cancelled He's just like I don't agree with cancelling people Unless like they're really He's just He's not He would He has questionable Opinions On people that are Grimo
2:39Joanne McNally:I totally forgot about that I forgot that him And his wife His name escapes me Right now Mila Kunis
2:45Vogue Williams:Mila Kunis
2:46Joanne McNally:Oh they did it They really Fucked up
2:49Vogue Williams:They did a silly Billy thing. Do you know what I always remember about them as well? This is why you should be careful what you say about yourself in the press. I always remember that they say they don't wash. And they don't wash their kids. And I'm just like, when I see them, they could be on a red carpet with suits on and I'm like, smelly. Is there a bit of context for this now?
3:13Joanne McNally:This sounds like kind of a clickbait-y headline.
3:15Vogue Williams:No, but if you would like to, have you seen my headlines now? My name's not Vogue Williams anymore. It's pregnant Vogue Williams.
3:22Joanne McNally:Of course.
3:23Vogue Williams:Well, you are pregnant.
3:24Joanne McNally:I mean, the facts track. It's my only name. That's all you are. You're just, once women are pregnant, it's really, it's all just about the pregnancy, really, from other people's perspective.
3:33Vogue Williams:Joanne, you don't remember, everybody is forgetting I'm pregnant. This pregnancy is really dragging. And I've only... I shouldn't have fucking told you in six weeks.
3:42Joanne McNally:And I've only, and as you know, I do keep forgetting you're pregnant. So even for the short space of time, I've known you're pregnant, it's still dragging. Do they stay in longer on the fourth round?
3:51Vogue Williams:Can you imagine how it drags for me, right? I am sick every single day. Are you? Yes, every day I have to take tablets nonstop. So yeah, it's a bit of a drag. It's quite long.
4:05Joanne McNally:Yeah, it is really long. If there's anything that could be done to speed it up, I mean, you're a well-connected woman.
4:10Vogue Williams:Thank God I'm not a bloody elephant. They go on for ages. They're pregnant for a long time. Did you see her one who was crushed by an elephant?
4:19Joanne McNally:Two elephants started having a scrap. And this poor woman, because the weight of them, they're absolutely ginormous. And this poor woman was crushed underneath them.
4:27Vogue Williams:And she's, God love her, she died. You obviously weren't listening in safari class when you went away. Elephants are like the most dangerous. Like stay. Elephants and what are those other ones? Not wildebeests. Buffalo. They will, like, if elephants smell you, they will literally go for you and they'll absolutely trample the shite of you on purpose.
4:46Joanne McNally:That's a shame. I was planning to get an elephant for the new house. I thought I drove by your new house today
4:51Vogue Williams:and I got really excited.
4:54Joanne McNally:Imagine when an elephant just strolled around the garden and clap him. Like, where's one mate? I got him on Etsy.
5:01Vogue Williams:Do you remember everyone had those cows? Do you remember? All over Dublin, there was those cows everywhere, like painted loads of bullets. Oh, yes. If you want to have an elephant, just, do you know what? you're not really very neighbourly I wouldn't say I can't imagine you're hanging out with all your neighbours so I suggest to really make sure that doesn't happen get a giant elephant for the front garden they'll never talk to you again the front garden they'll never talk to you again
5:26Joanne McNally:there is no front garden don't you dare try and throw me under the bus as a person of privilege I have no front garden
5:34Vogue Williams:okay put it in the swimming pool then put it in the swimming pool thank you thank you it's more like it we're the private beach Just some fact checking here. There's no front garden, okay? I'm so scared. Why don't you put it on the steps on the way down to the private beach or the jetty? It would look lovely on the jetty.
5:55Vogue Williams:I am a regular person, okay?
5:59Joanne McNally:With the chopper pot. You know what? We can tell from today. You are a regular person. I am. In my spare time, am I an ancient Grecian emperor? Yes, I am. with great style.
6:12Vogue Williams:Will you join your neighbourhood WhatsApp group when you get the opportunity?
6:16Joanne McNally:I will for this. Yeah. Because those things are Chernobyl level toxic. I want in. Like there's no, there's entire Reddit threads devoted to the lunacy of the neighbourly WhatsApp groups. I mean. Are you and yours folk?
6:31Vogue Williams:No, but I have nice neighbours either side of me. In which house? In the rental house that I'm in. They're very nice. No, they are. they're really nice they take in packages and like we take in their packages and I always think that that's a sign of a very nice neighbour because like it's a bit annoying Paul McCaffrey used to have a great bit
6:50Joanne McNally:about he still does have the bit I'm sure it hasn't been taken off about taking because he's a comedian so he's home all the time and that a lot of the time the neighbours would get their stuff delivered and then they'd come in in the evening he said it was like he was running a post office he'd be taking their documents and all he'd be like scrolling down the wall to see the code matches and everything It was so funny I think he did that live The Apollo It was so funny
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7:11Vogue Williams:It's a very neighbourly Thing to do So I like my neighbours here My neighbours in Dublin Are very nice They said I could use Their field And the kids could go Into their field So I thought You know what Thank you very much I will Well I still
7:27Joanne McNally:I can't get anything If anything sits in the Communal hallway For longer than seven minutes Of mine it is still stolen Stop And I'm starting to think It's not
7:36Vogue Williams:I think the call might be coming from inside the house, if you know what I mean. I wouldn't, do you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Spenny had a bit of an incident. Did he? With somebody. Yeah, two of our, we ordered Zap and Spenny was like, Zap is like a grocery app. And we ordered Zap and I was like, Spenny, I was waiting to make eggs, basically. So I was waiting on my eggs. And he was like, the eggs got delivered.
8:00Joanne McNally:As a woman in your 40s now, protein is a huge priority. I'm delighted to hear it.
8:04Vogue Williams:Delicious. I wanted eggs in a cup. That's what I wanted. And so he was like, they got delivered an hour ago. And I was like, well, they're not here. And he was like, they said they were delivered to this other place. And I was like, how weird. So he ordered them again. Again. They went. And so Svenny ended up knocking on the door and they were like, we're on a call. And he was like, why are you taking in my groceries? Like, you didn't order groceries.
8:27Joanne McNally:Stop taking my groceries. Well, it's theft, really. I mean, it's not like, you're not minding something. Like, it's theft. Jo how's your postal system how's your postal situation
8:38Vogue Williams:oh we've got nice neighbours I belong to a WhatsApp group but I have it archived and it catches me out every now and again because a neighbour will go you're coming to the barbecue on Saturday and I'll go what barbecue on Saturday and they'll go don't worry oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and then it's sort of awkward yeah
8:53Joanne McNally:but I think to be fair Jo in your defence I would say most people have their neighbourly WhatsApp group mutants
8:59Vogue Williams:I fear if I joined one of them I would turn into I'd be the one that everybody be bitching about. We've got to do, we've got to do something about the pigeons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be you, yeah. Just shoot them. Absolutely. Spencer, yeah.
9:14Joanne McNally:With a machine gun in the communal garden.
9:17Vogue Williams:I was at our, I was at our new house today and there's been progress. I actually commended the builders. I didn't want to go too far because I don't want them getting ahead of themselves. Go on. Lads.
9:27Joanne McNally:Something has happened.
9:28Vogue Williams:I'm impressed here. The walls are down. The place is looking magnificent. Wow. I had an interiors person over with me. It's all go on the Western Front, as my mother would say.
9:41Joanne McNally:I think that's a world, is that World War II? No, it's all quiet on the Western Front. Is that not what the saying is?
9:47Vogue Williams:No, sorry, this is Sandra Wilson's saying, it's all go on the Western Front.
9:53Joanne McNally:I'm pretty sure it was like that. Wasn't that something to do with World War II? Two And
10:00Vogue Williams:All Quiet on the Western Front Is a novel A German novel From 1928 About the First World War
10:06Joanne McNally:There you go Sandra She hit the nail On the head there
10:10Vogue Williams:It's all going Sandra's world On the Western Front Love it Good woman Sandra It's terrible I ring Neil I ring Neil sometimes And I'm like Oh what are you up to And then I'm like Oh it's Thursday He's sitting having a coffee In the shopping centre While he waits for my mum For the next three hours I'm like that's why he answered his phone so fast
10:31Joanne McNally:It's a dream Sorry Like it's I And I don't wish ill health on Sandra But if she does go Before an ill I'll swoop in Imagine you were my Fantastic husband And then I'll raise you You'll raise me right
10:49Vogue Williams:I'll be dragged up by Sandra Raised right by Joanne
10:52Joanne McNally:I'll raise you properly Vogue Amber is a lost cause But you I think there's still I think I could I think I could do good work there
10:59Vogue Williams:Yeah, Amber's definitely gone So And my favourite thing about Amber Is when she likes to describe a night out And you know what I'm like When people have had a night out You want me to see I'm ringing around to see What time it ended Yeah What went on
11:12Joanne McNally:Yeah I'm the same I love to ring around Really early in the morning While I'm out sprinting Through the common I'm like, are you in bits?
11:19Vogue Williams:Are you?
11:20Joanne McNally:How late was it? Yeah, it was really late Yeah
11:23Vogue Williams:Mental health Okay, no, I didn't think so No Well, that's what you get Yes. Amber went to the PIP Style Awards and she's like, home by two. And I'm like, oh yeah, do you remember getting home at two? Because I know who put you in a taxi. She's like, that's not true.
11:46Joanne McNally:A friend of mine, they have, they're off the booze, as we'd say. They're on the dry. And they're making great strides with it all. And I'm very, very proud of them. and I am kind of thank you thank you
12:04Vogue Williams:yeah well done Vogue well done I appreciate it yeah
12:10Joanne McNally:wait till the people see the real you Vogue wait when the camera scans out and there's all these bongs and crack pipes on the shelves behind you and I'm like I told you it was all a force
12:21Vogue Williams:I said to Hanborough I was like I can't help it Like I don't smoke when I'm not pregnant. I have the odd one when I'm drinking, but I don't like, I'm not a smoker, but like the smell of smoke when I'm pregnant. I'm like, I'm just like, I don't like the smell of smoke off people when I'm not pregnant, but this baby likes the smell of old, dank smoke off people's clothes.
12:44Joanne McNally:It's disgusting. I know.
12:47Vogue Williams:Is that a craving? I think my dad is being reincarnated.
12:51Joanne McNally:Oh, of course. Yes. That makes sense. Freddie's back. Yeah, the baby's going to come out smoking a cigar. 20 minutes. I smoked up a storm on trailers, but it was literally just out of, I was like, I'm smoking because they were just long days and you were like, you know, you're kind of like breaking up the time. But then I was like, Joanne, this is like, it's really, you know, I know I haven't, I'm not the first one to bring this information to the table. It's really bad for you.
13:20Vogue Williams:I know. But I did it in the jungle. I was smoking. and the security guards were like God it's a busy day at the office for you Vogue you came in here not smoking
13:29Joanne McNally:and I'd be all day and I'd be like I'm back I know it's literally it just kind of eats into a bit of standing around time and there is always a lot of standing around time with TV it's kind of there's a lot of resetting of cameras
13:39Vogue Williams:and also to be on your own yeah you're not on your own well you were on your own more than I would have been on my own I was never on my own well I was out smoking with Gerry Hall I heard a journalist came up to me at the BAFTAs and was like and was like, Joanne is really good friends with Jerry Hall. I was like, yes. He was like, she's always outside. She's always outside smoking with her. And I was like, yes.
14:00Joanne McNally:Jerry was, well, I mean, obviously everyone adores Jerry Hall. She's iconic. But I think she's having a big birthday party and we were all, she was telling us all about it and everyone was like, did anyone get the nod? Did anyone get the nod? Of course we didn't. Jerry's gone back to her glamorous life and actually I was going to say Texas. She actually lives in the UK. In July,
14:19Vogue Williams:she's going to be 70.
14:21Joanne McNally:She's going 70 in July, Oh my god, you didn't get a nod to the 70s, Joanne.
14:25Vogue Williams:Listen, there's still time. What's the point of doing the traitors? There's still time. Meaningless. I asked you to be friends with one person. I know. It was Gerry Hall. We have emails, Joanne. Are you prepared for an email? I believe so. It's called, okay, work situationship or younger lads love it.
14:47Joanne McNally:Why did I have an immediate repulsive reaction to that last? captioning
14:53Vogue Williams:not that young
14:55Joanne McNally:my kids we play my god joke are you playing out not in a problematic sense it's no one vetting these emails you're just banging them all through to Vogue
15:07Vogue Williams:we play we play would you rather on the way to school right and she was like and we play like would you rather get in a bath full of vomit or a bath full of prickets that kind of stuff and then she comes out with would you rather marry a child or marry an adult I was like hang on Gigi I'm going to have to explain something to you here that is hilarious
15:29Joanne McNally:gets dark the night of school she's keeping across global news and taking in information from Afghanistan good for her Gigi maybe maybe she's going to be a political journalist quite possibly in heels we'd love to see it
15:43Vogue Williams:okay okay here we go hi girlos I turned 37 in December and since then My libido has been through the roof Interesting I have been constantly hooking up with younger men One to four a week And have learned a lot How the fuck Like how is that happening I tried really hard One to four a week Yeah when I was single I tried really hard I got one in six months One to four Okay read on read on For starters Most of them are really respectful and bring their own condoms. They love a full bush and leg hair. Really ripped ones with abs are attracted to my belly and stretch marks. I want to spread the word that this is a viable option for those in their 30s.
16:36Vogue Williams:Because, I mean, it's not like you're turning 90 here. You're 37. Because it's so much fun. It's been such a journey. Happy to answer questions. Please keep me anonymous for obvious reasons. Happy to answer questions.
16:51Joanne McNally:What are we two frigid Owens?
16:54Vogue Williams:Yeah, yeah.
16:56Joanne McNally:She's like, hey girl, just say no. When was the last time you got the right? She's like, just flagging that I have a sex life, Joanne, you clearly don't. Happy to answer any questions.
17:04Vogue Williams:I haven't told anyone else in my life because of religious guilt. Okay. So what happens then?
17:12Joanne McNally:They are a new generation of, our generation of men, they are as brainwashed and traumatized as we are because they were raised on all this weird, I know we were victims of heroin chic, but men were also brainwashed into thinking that was like hot and sexy. Whereas now they're a new generation. They're young. They're not raised on that. They're more progressive, I would say, than our generation of men. Do you know what I mean?
17:34Vogue Williams:I think everyone's into different body types. It doesn't, like, you don't have to be one body type for...
17:41Joanne McNally:No, of course. But I think our, like, the men who are our age were as brainwashed as we were. and like I think when skinniness was fetishised so much that now I do think that has shifted and it's obviously it's as playing out in men's tastes as well which is fantastic I don't know what I'm saying does any of this make sense?
18:01Vogue Williams:I know yeah it does I would like to end that with I forgot to tell you I have an arse now my arse has grown like it's like a good arse congratulations on its own didn't have to do anything it's not like I was working out it just has grown it's a great reason to have a child I'm absolutely thrilled I don't know what I'll miss more The boobs or the arse I don't know
18:21Joanne McNally:I did see you trotting past there the other day I said Jesus someone's had a BBL
18:25Vogue Williams:I'm only telling you It's because I got out of the shower there And I caught a glimpse of it in the mirror And I was like holy shit Who owns that And it was me Good for you both Thank you Oh by the way My book is out on paperback Here she is Big May Supposedly people wait around for paperback I'm just too impatient but if you have been waiting for the paperback big mouth is out now
18:48Joanne McNally:I spent a lot of time in airports I often buy books in airport shops and I would not buy a hardback because I'm like I'm not dragging that around Australia for a month so I would usually I'd be more drawn to a softback
19:02Vogue Williams:they're much cheaper well no they're much cheaper as well but I was in the airport the other day and I went to buy this book and she told me my bill I was buying the crisps and sweets as well oh I know 30 quid I was like I'm not paying 30 quid for that book. I put it back.
19:16Joanne McNally:Yeah. Good for you, supporting your fellow writers. But do go out and buy my paperback.
19:23Vogue Williams:I will wait for the paperback. Paperback is£10.99. I'm not paying 30 quid for a book. £10.99 paperback. Anyway, congratulations on the paperback. I'm sure you're a head. And the arse. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
19:38Joanne McNally:Yeah.
19:39Vogue Williams:It's been a good week for me all round.
19:45Vogue Williams:This has been a Global Player original production.
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