MTGM EXTRA! "Last night, I had a dream..."

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0:32Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.

0:40Well hello, it's my therapist ghosted me.

0:44Joanne McNally:It's myself yet again, always consistently, Joanne McNally and consistently, my wife and confidant, Vogue Williams, and sporadically, Jo Eddiewell. Jo loves a holiday.

0:55Vogue Williams:That does make it sound like I turn up a word sporadically.

0:59Joanne McNally:Yeah you did well Jo Well you do take

1:01Vogue Williams:You take more time off Than we take off now In fairness

1:03Joanne McNally:It's a lot of paternity time Jo It is absolutely right Don't think we have it now And not a stitch in you No

1:11Vogue Williams:Not a single stitch in you But a lot of time taken If I have another baby If I ever have another baby I'm going to get on to you And ask you how you Wangled that much free time After the child What was it you took off Last time 48 hours Not even

1:26Joanne McNally:We could hear them Cutting the umbilical cord live on the podcast. Sorry guys. I'll take that out in the edit. Don't worry. Keep going.

1:35Vogue Williams:I'll be back in 20 and waiting on the placenta.

1:47Joanne McNally:I'd like you both to do something please because I would like to discuss it on the podcast. Lena Dunham's new show Too Much with Meg's daughter. Have we watched? started it, yeah. I will caveat this by saying I am a massive Lena Dunham fan. She could come in here and she could piss on my carpets and I'd hoover it up and decant it later and consume it. I love her. This feels to me like I'm about to say I don't believe in vaccines. That's how problematic this opinion feels to me because I adore her. Doesn't mean you can't have an opinion. It doesn't but I want to I think, you know it's like people who write books not every book is going to be amazing you're going to get a couple of turkeys in there careers are long you can't have a hit not everything you do is going to be a hit but I genuinely thought this was going to I actually went to I went to a screening of it in town kind of like paid to go to the screening of it because I thought it was I was just I was buzzing to see it and I'm sorry to say and Alina I love you so much it's it's it's it's not it's not bad it's just not grabbing me in the way Lena Dunham's work usually grabs me I

3:03Vogue Williams:also think that she is incredible I actually and I love her and I love all of anyone that's in that show it's a great cast it had all the markings for such a brilliant show but I watched the first episode on the plane here and I'd only downloaded that show because I was like I'm going to watch like three apps on the way here this is going to be amazing and I watched the first episode and I just was like I nearly didn't get through the first episode I was like I actually it was it's not great it's not a great show at all

3:33Joanne McNally:it's like there's slow burn and then there's like no burn do you know what I mean how did that happen to her do you know what I think happened because I've been watching and reading around it as much as I can and like I say not everything you're gonna like there's so much pressure on her because Girls was such a seminal show and there's so much pressure on her. But I feel like she got Netflixed. I think all those platforms, all those channels are like begging Lena and being like, please, please, have you anything, have you anything, have you anything. And she obviously took a huge break from writing TV and she's been on like kind of several journeys, she says herself, of sobriety and all this jazz and then she obviously moved to the UK and she's after marrying this English musician guy and this story is based on their relationship.

4:18Joanne McNally:I feel like she came back with, I don't know what I don't know what it's just too tame for her there's no jeopardy there's no tension there and also I'm going to say this and I don't know what is this like a casting thing because I've no experience I'm not buying their relationship between Felix and Jessica like they had one date and it wasn't even like a particularly hot date and then he was saying his friends he's met someone and I was like what?

4:44Vogue Williams:There's no chemistry but like even the burn thing I was like well how has this made sense that this has turned into an entire like part of the episode. Okay, we're really going in on it now. We usually, we like giving recommendations and then this is, this is, yeah.

5:01Joanne McNally:I feel like I'm literally questioning whether we landed on planet Earth. Like I feel like I've turned, I feel like I'm, this is some sort of feminist treason, but I, everyone's talking about the show. We like talking about things people are talking about. I just, it's something missing. You kind of want to shake it and be like, no what's going on behind the scenes here there's more going on here what's happening where's the rest

5:24Vogue Williams:where is it do you know what show I just love and I saw you posting about it the other day again I just Hacks is like the perfect combination of everything you want in a show like I could just watch Hacks for the rest of my life every single day and just be it's like it feels like Friends to me you know when you was Friends was always on you'd go home and you'd just hear the music for Friends and that was like your day and like Hacks is kind of like that show to me as well it's just so good some shows are very comforting

5:48Joanne McNally:and actually too much is also quite comforting but you're not you're kind of in the background now while I'm dusting and stuff and like this is why I'm so scared to say this because like if I met Lena Dunham I'd like drop to the ground and kiss her feet and I just I just hope to God she isn't aware of either of us I hope she isn't aware of either of us and has never heard of NTGM and isn't one of these like passive women who listen to the pub because I would die I would just like to say that I feel in my cell having anything but completely positive things to say about Lena Dunham's work is the female equivalent to me matching with Andrew Tate on Hinge.

6:20Joanne McNally:I feel like a complete asshole. I just, I feel like a complete asshole but also, I have to be somewhat honest about it and I don't, I feel like she's being censored or something's missing. It's missing. It's just not enough. It's not too much. It's not enough. We need more, Lena. We need more.

6:36Vogue Williams:I know. It is a disappointing one though and I always feel bad. I hate, I hate criticizing anything. Like if there's, if I'm reading a book and I don't finish the book I'm like I just won't post about the book now because I just, I obviously didn't like the book so I'm not going to post about it. Yeah. I just feel a bit bad

6:52Joanne McNally:but yeah. We don't want to put negative stuff into the ether but still it is a point of conversation but also, Lena, if you want me to appear on anything that you're writing at the moment I would love to start.

7:03Vogue Williams:I wish I'd had a role in it myself. Of course. Yeah. I would love to have a role. I had them all downloaded and I deleted them but anyway, anyway, I'm sure she'll come out with something that's absolutely brilliant the next time.

7:14Joanne McNally:I'm going to power on. I'm going to power on. Like I say, I feel this is, she's tentatively dipping the toe back into the world of TV writing and I can feel there is hesitancy or resistance coming from someone whether it's her or Netflix I don't know but I feel it, Lena I feel the resistance

7:32Vogue Williams:Amber will force herself to watch shows and she'll literally be like I have to go watch that show now I'm like no you don't no one's paying you to watch it she's like but I've started it so I have to finish it there's a loyalty there's a loyalty to things like you know I'm going to die at some point in my life I don't have time to read books that I don't enjoy or to watch TV shows that I don't enjoy because then what am I going to do on my deathbed I'll say you wasted seven hours watching that show and you could have been doing other stuff that's what I'll say

8:02Joanne McNally:I was on to Ross the other night who does my socials and I was ranting about that and he's like Joanne why don't you start doing like TV reviews on TikTok because I'm too fucking lazy but it's something to think about because I have a lot of opinions about this shit why not I know I know Why not push them on Push them on unsuspecting people Who never ask for them

8:24Vogue Williams:I'd hate I would hate a job like that Or to be like A restaurant reviewer Or something that has to go in And review people's food Because I just I would absolutely Like even if something's bad Like if it's really bad I'm just I'm even a bit like Of course I kind of feel guilty Saying it But I'm like That was like Yeah

8:40Joanne McNally:I think a review should be Kind of a balanced take on Because you can't remove of your own bias as well. Like, that's why it annoys me when you've middle-aged, when Sex and the City started out, you'd middle-aged elder men reviewing Sex and the City. Like, that's not, of course they're going to think it's shit. It's not for them. Not everything's for you. Do you know what I mean? Keep your nose out of it. Keep your fucking nose out of it. But the starring system, I think, is pretty brutal. I don't think you, like, especially in the Edinburgh, you see, like, really good comics and they're getting, like, one-star reviews.

9:06Joanne McNally:Like, don't do that to that person.

9:08Vogue Williams:That is so mean.

9:09Joanne McNally:Don't do that to them. Don't piss on them like that.

9:12Vogue Williams:But don't Adam Sandler movies always get really, really badly reviewed? And they're an easy watch and they might not be groundbreaking. I love an easy watch. Yeah, me too.

9:22Joanne McNally:I'm an easy person. Do you know what I mean? That's why I'm sitting there watching Adam Sandler and not playing Sudoku. Sudoku.

9:29Vogue Williams:We'll get you on the camera, Kush. So is it Sudoku or Sudoku? It's none of our business. None of us know. It isn't. I always thought I'd be one of those people that would sit at home and like do my crosswords and all that. And like I do sometimes buy the Times on a Sunday. But like if I'm really honest, I mainly buy it for Style Magazine and I just read Style.

9:50Joanne McNally:I've given the crossword a bash a few times. It's just not for me. Pat's an absolute shark.

9:57Vogue Williams:My mum has two crossword books in a room. I'm like, oh my God, people buy them. I always wondered who were the purchasers.

10:09Vogue Williams:Did I tell you that I'm a power top? Did I tell you that? We have. No, well, yes, you have. But go on. Well, I have a lot of gay friends and they weren't saying this to compliment me, but they very much did. They said that, wow, if you were gay, a gay man, which I think I definitely was one in a past life. If you were a gay man, you'd be a power top. And I said, you know what? You're dead fucking right. But then again, I'd be arsed.

10:36Joanne McNally:Gays telling their female friends, that we're power tops. It's the equivalent of us telling our female friends they've lost weight. Yeah. It's just what they do. It's just what they do. And like, obviously we don't discuss weight anymore, but we're still discussing topping and bottoming. It's still the ultimate compliment to a woman because every woman wants to feel within a group of men that she's considered an alpha. Yeah, exactly. They all tell us we're power tops. Can you imagine us trying to ride each other? We'd be climbing on top of each other every three seconds. No.

11:03Vogue Williams:No, we've also spoken about this before, Joanne. You and I would lie down and have a nap together. I'd have to knock you out