In short
The hosts banter about summer life and showgoing, then pivot to a personal dating story involving political dealbreakers, plus a hair-extension emergency and a rant about a celebrity figure’s alleged claims.
Guests
No guests appear in the transcript; it’s a two-host conversation (Joanne and Joe, with “Vogue” mentioned as a co-host/participant).
Guest backgrounds
Not applicable—no guest bios are provided.
Key claims
Carl Cox is the weekend’s “main takeaway”; Joanne’s k-tip hair extensions have matted into “dreadlocks” and need professional unmatting; a second-date man’s views (Michael Jackson “innocent,” Kanye “genius,” Nigel Farage “what the country needs”) led the dater to leave abruptly and block him.
Notable examples
Liverpool/Manchester show entry/security stories; paddling pool “heavy petting” jokes; hair unmatting advice from a Peterborough salon; Katie Price’s husband/tenders and travel ban discussion; the dating incident where the dater “body took over and I left.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWeekend Recap and DJ Talk
0:06 to 0:26
The hosts discuss their busy weekend and a DJ performance that caught their attention.
“But now I realise with that stroke of luck, there is.”
Paddling Pool Plans
0:26 to 2:24
The hosts have a humorous exchange about paddling pools and summer party ideas.
“All I've done for the whole weekend, obviously there was work and stuff involved, but like, let's forget it.”
Safety Concerns and Party Etiquette
2:25 to 4:35
They share funny anecdotes about safety at parties and the chaos of their shows.
“I went, I went like standard practice, just rectangular pool now.”
Audience Interactions and Show Dynamics
4:36 to 8:06
The hosts reflect on interactions with their audience during live shows and the challenges that arise.
“Unless it's heavy, we're not interested.”
Hair Emergency and Extensions Drama
8:07 to 12:10
One host shares a humorous and disastrous hair experience involving hair extensions.
“for I'd say 40 minutes I'm sorry I didn't come to you for your question I have to keep going I have to keep the show moving I'd love to know what the question was to be honest was she left then?”
Travel Luck and Aviation Perks
12:11 to 14:00
The host recounts a stroke of luck regarding a flight that turned out better than expected.
“And like, imagine having those hair that long, that length of hair with the pool and all.”
Flight Delays and Surprising Luck
14:00 to 15:01
Learn about unexpected travel experiences and the joy of timely flights.
“And my flight then, I got a message saying my flight had been delayed till nine o 'clock and I was like, oh my God, all other flights were sold out.”
Discussing Celebrity Relationships
15:01 to 16:41
Explore thoughts on Katie Price's husband and celebrity culture.
Critique of Celebrity Parenting
16:41 to 18:12
Delve into discussions on parenting styles and celebrity influences.
“on stage in Liverpool and Manchester and the girls were very invested.”
Political Opinions and Awkward Dates
18:12 to 19:49
Discuss the impact of differing political views on personal relationships.
“Spectra was like I find the whole North thing utterly bizarre.”
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The Dilemma of Political Compatibility
19:49 to 21:35
Examine how political beliefs can affect dating choices and relationships.
“No, the whole thing is I can say whatever I want about anyone because I am such a fucking frigid bitch that he knows I'd never do it.”
The Complexity of Modern Dating
21:35 to 23:21
Share experiences and reactions to a second date gone wrong.
“I'm going to have to stick the ankle out and be like to try and seduce one of them or something.”
Navigating Awkward Moments During Dates
23:21 to 25:56
Learn about the challenges of handling uncomfortable conversations on dates.
“This then led to him starting up a conversation.”
Controversial Figures in Pop Culture
25:56 to 27:58
Engage in debate about public figures and their influence in society.
“As when I got home, I had three missed calls from him.”
Debating Michael Jackson's Innocence
28:00 to 28:37
A discussion on the controversial legacy of Michael Jackson and views on separating art from the artist.
“I think I'd rather have dinner with someone who thinks Nigel Farage is a good choice for the UK over someone who thinks Michael Jackson is innocent.”
Joanne's Hair Journey
28:37 to 29:10
Joanne updates on her hair transformation and reactions from the hosts.
“the same um reasoning as joanne i mean how much you love thriller do we separate the art from the artist?”
Teasing Future Episodes
29:10 to 30:12
The hosts hint at what's to come in future episodes, including Joanne's hair and a secret.
“Thank you so much everyone for listening.”
Excitement for Upcoming Discussions
30:12 to 31:00
The hosts express anticipation for discussing the Madonna interview on the Graham Norton show.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Vogue Williams:This is a global production.
0:04Joanne McNally:There is a God. I often wondered, was there a God? But now I realise with that stroke of luck, there is.
0:11Vogue Williams:I love you so much, but I just I didn't even have your back for one second with this because I know that you're in the wrong. How does he think he's going to get away with saying he's got a part in his tenders?
0:25Vogue Williams:I have had a very, very busy weekend. Oh yeah. All I've done for the whole weekend, obviously there was work and stuff involved, but like, let's forget it. My main takeout from this weekend was Carl Cox. I don't care about your footballer fella, Joanne. I want somebody as cool as Carl Cox. where did you where what where did this come from i go on these mental like remember it was bad bunny a couple of weeks ago then i had a little look at your footballer i decided he wasn't really for me to be honest with you and i didn't want to fight with you about it anyway okay i could see ruth langsford in the comments um talking about that she was into him and i thought i'm not into this now it's turning into a hen fight and so i so i saw a video of carl cox playing this castle in France.
1:16Vogue Williams:And he did, you know, that Blade song from the movie Blade? And he just DJed that and I was like, he's the coolest one. So, straight on to ChatGPG, how much is it to have Carl Cox in your house? Because obviously I can't go out at night. Okay, yeah. 30 to 50 grand, I would like to start a GoFundMe.
1:35Joanne McNally:Sorry, Vogue, you've set cash down the back of your couch. Would you stop with your GoFundMe?
1:39Vogue Williams:Joanne, I'm in the middle of a renovation, okay?
1:42Joanne McNally:so all the money has been taken you did that in your console is that what they call that little bit in the car but so it's got sticky bits mine's got like lollipops and all in it
1:50Vogue Williams:in the ashtray the old ashtray it's got 60 grand in there so I'm just gonna I'm gonna start my GoFundMe and if anyone if everyone would like to share it you can stand outside the house and you can you can catch the music from outside but Carl will be in my house and it will just be me and Carl
2:10Joanne McNally:I'll just be listening to him DJ I think that's a great use of your money and if that happens please invite me down I'll bring my paddling pill we can set up as a pill party I ordered another paddling pill the pump has arrived yeah yeah yeah it's full I beat the vibes in the garden
2:26Vogue Williams:I mean you're talking about me swimming in money I saw him when she spent the first one
2:29Joanne McNally:you are loaded oh yeah the red the um what was it like 100 quid the red lip one I know yeah did you get another lip one No, I didn't. I didn't. I went basic. I went, I went like standard practice, just rectangular pool now.
2:49Vogue Williams:Now, as a paddling pool connoisseur, I've got one in the house. We basically, I'm actually, I'll do a video of our garden. I have, it's probably a four metre by five metre garden. And in that room, there's a paddling pool. There's two chairs, there's a table. There is a two person sauna that is like a standing up coffin. Yeah. and a trampoline. So there's no room. You can barely walk there. But the paddling pool, what I will say is either you're going to have to put it on your grass, which I think might ruin your grass, or you need to get like sponge flooring for underneath. Oh, yeah.
3:29Joanne McNally:Yes. Yes. I was looking at how I was going to elevate it.
3:34Vogue Williams:That's how you elevate it.
3:35Joanne McNally:Okay, fine. I have a slide,
3:37Vogue Williams:a blow up slide, doesn't fit in my garden. you can have it and it goes over the edge of the paddling pool i wouldn't be averse to it you know
3:44Joanne McNally:like i mean i'm here to i'm here to have my tepid girl summer and if that involves throwing myself down a plastic slide i'm like i i can see myself doing it i just don't want to i just don't want any injuries do you know what i mean i don't anyone's going into the deep end of the paddling pool and like breaking their neck i watch a lot of that kind of stuff on tiktok people do you remember the story with the woman his bridesmaid threw her into the pool on her hen party and she's like never walked since. Oh my God, I've heard,
4:12Vogue Williams:and I've met somebody who actually dove into a pool and broke. So like, you know the way you always hear it, but I've actually met somebody who broke his neck, yeah. Never walked since. So you're going to get a no diving sign for your pool?
4:25Joanne McNally:Yes, into the paddling field at the deep end, which will be up to my ankles.
4:30Vogue Williams:No, heavy petting is allowed. Heavy petting is allowed. It's summer, Joe. Fine. Heavy petting, please. heavy petting.
4:38Joanne McNally:Yeah. None of your light petting. Unless it's heavy, we're not interested.
4:45Joanne McNally:I want some heavy water water petting. Heavy petting. Backing slowly into any lot I can see. I'm here for a heavy pet. It's summer. I'm here for a heavy pet. I just want to say thank you to everyone who came to the Liverpool and Manchester shows at the weekend. I honestly thought I would be rolling around in there on my own because of the heat and the fact that they would have been like I would have lost them to the beer garden and they actually made the effort to come and I greatly appreciate it. Moving on from that. No hang on I have to add something
5:18Vogue Williams:and I'm sorry to the person that mailed me but like there's certain things I'll contact you on with but there's certain things I won't contact you with when she's made to go on stage.
5:30Joanne McNally:Was this the woman out the front who they wouldn't let in? Yeah.
5:36Vogue Williams:And I actually felt so bad for her. I was like, oh no, I hate when that happens. And then in the end she was like, and if you can't sort it out, I hope she has a good show. And I was like, I can't be getting on to Joanne Asner to go out and get a pissed girl in.
5:51Joanne McNally:Yeah, we can't. I know, I know. Because sometimes, like, I've had many of those males over the years. Well, a couple of those messages over the years from women in the queue who are being refused entry. and I like obviously I'm in show mode so it's not I can't really go out and start getting involved with the cues and security and stuff but as well like I have to kind of trust that the security guys are right because I'll be honest there's a lot of women getting in that I'm like oh like if they're coming in I can only imagine what's not coming in what's the line
6:25Vogue Williams:like what is the line at your show is the vomiting the vomiting is over the line and then it's like as long as you can walk doesn't have to be in a straight line but as long as you can kind of get yourself into your seat you can go in i don't know why i don't yeah you can feel your way once you can feel your way to your
6:42Joanne McNally:seat yeah but um but no i like the shows i'm i always make them sound like there's some like feral like kind of everyone's just like vomiting into zara jackets that's not the case but like i
6:54Vogue Williams:say if there's no one sober in there now in fairness come on you do i lose the run of myself when I go to your shows as well. It's got an energy. It's got an energy. I'm going to one at Christmas.
7:04Joanne McNally:I'm going to one at Christmas.
7:05Vogue Williams:Well, I might do too, but I'm definitely going to one.
7:07Joanne McNally:It's got an energy. I just, sometimes I worry because I had a woman message me once and she was like, the way you talk about your shows, I'd love to go, but I'm like scared. It's like, no, it's not. We probably just, but I will say Manchester and the Palace, they drank them out of wine. That's for girls. Yeah, drank them completely out of wine. Anyway, sorry. So I'm sorry to that woman who couldn't get in. but it's you know I can't be inserting myself into security I have to trust that they are doing their job you know yourself people are more pissed as well because the sun they're fermenting like fruit flies it dehydrates you out more
7:42Vogue Williams:ah you gotta like come on you gotta just go back to basics you gotta have a good meal right you gotta you need to like it's like if you're gonna go out for the whole day you have to prepare yourself you gotta hold back a little bit even though you don't wanna hold back it's tough but it can be done it can be done but this woman didn't pass the test unfortunately
8:02Joanne McNally:also to the to the woman in Liverpool in the third row who sat with her hand up for I'd say 40 minutes I'm sorry I didn't come to you for your question I have to keep going I have to keep the show moving
8:16Vogue Williams:I'd love to know what the question was to be honest was she left then? stop
8:20Joanne McNally:she had her hand up like a she was probably asking
8:23Vogue Williams:if she could go excuse me John I know I know Would you mind if I left? I'm all kind of going to talk a deal now.
8:31Joanne McNally:I was like, you're free to go. Free to go. Free to go. Free to come and go. Free to come and go. Do you know when you're kind of set? I made an executive decision. I was like, I'm not going to engage her because she looked a little wobbly and she had the hand up. And it's like, do you know when you're like, come on now, we can't be doing Q &As. We have to keep this thing going. It's hot.
8:53Vogue Williams:Maybe she wanted a birthday shout out, Joanne, for God's sake. It's hot in here, you know.
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8:58Joanne McNally:who the girl is. We're sweating. We need to keep it moving. Anyway, all that aside, I noticed this, Vogue knows this already. I noticed this little clump in my hair. Joe, you know that I have like extensions now? Yeah, they are massive. I thought you were going to say majestic. I mean, they are. They're majestic.
9:19Vogue Williams:You're like a lioness if lionesses had a mane. Can I just caveat this by saying I did feel like it was going a little bit too well. Yeah. I thought she's really I thought she's really
9:31Joanne McNally:coping a lot better
9:33Vogue Williams:with these than I thought she would
9:34Joanne McNally:yeah and I was and I was I thought I was looking after them and I was brushing them and I thought I was on top of it she wasn't on top of it dear reader she was not on top of it I found this little clump at the back and I was like oh that feels a little knot there and then I went around and I found a couple little more knots and I that back of my hair there's like four I would say giant matted chunks of stenos where i think the k-tip the glue the glue has like melted into my hair um and it's honestly like they're like dreadlocks they're like four fat juicy girthy dreadlocks at the back of my head now which i have there is no budging them there is no moving them i've done everything so i'm off into i'm taking an ambulance into now after this.
10:23Joanne McNally:That's why we're recording early. You texted me and said you had
10:26Vogue Williams:a hair emergency and this is it.
10:29Joanne McNally:Yes. This is a hair emergency. I've had like a sheep's arse and I'm feeling some patching arrow.
10:34Vogue Williams:I have to be honest with you. You've got to, I take some salpos. You need to have some salpos because that happened to me once before in Australia. I had my hair done in Australia years ago when I lived there. I even remember the colour of the shirt and I was wearing a shirt in to get them all out because they'd all gone matted. and the whole back of my shirt was just sweat because it was just like someone always constantly picking at your hair it's not it's not the nicest just i'd load up on some some yes i was there was
11:05Joanne McNally:there was a lot of advice in the dms because obviously i took it to the internet because why wouldn't you i love chatting to the internet and uh there was a lot of people saying like i put fairy liquid in them then there was uh i don't think they understood like the extent of what the problem was. But there was a woman contacted me from a salon in Peterborough.
11:24Vogue Williams:If Joanne ever gets on to anyone for advice in the DMs, please just ask her to seek professional help. We don't want Joanne sitting in her kitchen pouring very up liquid into the back of her hair.
11:36Joanne McNally:Very up, very up liquid. It must do something. Very liquid, I think. I think it does strip, like I'd say it's useful in certain situations. It's great for washing your makeup brushes. There you go. But anyway, there was a woman contacting me from a salon in Peterborough and she said they're like specialists in unmatting hair extensions and she said it's an absolute nightmare and a lot of salons won't deal with it because it takes I sent Hadley the video over the back of my head and he goes that's a day job so get in as early as you can that's why I had to move the pod Anyway, that sounds like a nice day for you
12:10Vogue Williams:I'm excited for you Yeah, yeah
12:13Joanne McNally:Well, look, any excuse to take a couple of salpots you know yourself
12:15Vogue Williams:Do you think we should maybe take the standard for a little while just for your hot girl summer we'll take the stenos out and then maybe we'll revisit them in the cooler months i think
12:24Joanne McNally:i will do you know what they're all kind of coming out now i think they're naturally moving away from my head as it stands i think it's time i think it's time to go back to my my little bob and then maybe strap the hair back in for winter that's what i'm doing can grow stenos like that in the
12:40Vogue Williams:in six months time your hair grows so fast you would have hair as long as your stenos that's
12:44Joanne McNally:all you have to do yeah i'm on the minoxidil as well do you know what i mean and i'm going i think I think I'm going to do a little I beat the trip in August. And like, imagine having those hair that long, that length of hair with the pool and all.
12:55Vogue Williams:No. That's why my stenos are out now. Because I'm going away in a couple of weeks and I am not dealing with it. I'm going back to having smelly damp hair for my summer holidays in Spain. Yeah.
13:05Joanne McNally:Just like last year. I just, feral head. There was a woman messaged me and she said she did the same thing. She went swimming and she got out of the pool and her stenos just like stayed. She took them out of her hair bob and they just stayed in the exact position that they were in once you had the hair popping in them. They were just, they're like, it's like chewing gum. They're just like, yeah, it's not a summer situation. Extensions are, it's a winter, it's a winter commitment. Summer, it's too much of a lifestyle choice for me. And I was glad anyway, I was glad of the support in the DMs because I did feel like I was, I had, I was like, oh my God, I'm a bin woman.
13:37Joanne McNally:Like, how have I let this happen? But no, it is quite common. Quite common. And yeah, happens to everyone. There you go. Nothing to see here. Okay. Nothing to see here.
13:53Vogue Williams:I had really good luck yesterday. Do you know what happened? I was flying home from Dublin and I worked all day and I was wrecked. And my flight then, I got a message saying my flight had been delayed till nine o 'clock and I was like, oh my God, all other flights were sold out. I was looking at any options. I wasn't even going to fly to Stansted, which is four years away from my house. And then didn't I get to the airport and I got, because I have so many points because I fly all the time, they're like I will put you on the earlier flight the 6 o 'clock that I thought was sold out got on the plane no one else no it was one of the planes that goes to New York you know Aer Lingus the way Aer Lingus can fly to New York so some of their planes have business class like actual business class but usually when you're sitting up the front on a flight to London it's just like a regular seat of course sorry so not only did I get on an earlier flight I then got to lie down for an hour
14:47Joanne McNally:stunning you love a lie down do I for you
14:50Vogue Williams:God I wasn't even asleep
14:52Joanne McNally:I had my eyes open but I was just lying there is a God I often wondered was there a God but now I realise with that stroke of luck there is
15:01Vogue Williams:that's how I felt yesterday nearly getting home at 11 o 'clock at night you should go back to mass now for the gratefulness I was home a quarter to nine that's why my week has gone so bad we're recording this on a Monday and I feel great
15:12Joanne McNally:listen I have something to say to the two of you okay I I all weekend I've wanted to talk about Katie Price's husband on the podcast and I yeah okay no exactly right I knew I think
15:29Vogue Williams:I think you need to start a new podcast and it should just be you and just you and you can start one with Katie Price I'll let you if you want to I've decided
15:37Joanne McNally:I've decided I said no I said I know what's going to happen I'm going to try and bring him up and then they're both going to sigh I didn't sigh you did because you're on mute because you're on mute I saw it in your eyes and I saw your head flick back and then she said I said don't you want stand your ground stand your ground I listen to them talking about their children all the time this is my child he's my child this is my child story I don't talk about my kids nearly as much as you go on
16:01Vogue Williams:about this Lee fella no way we do not now I have we have both let you had a fair one episode and I wouldn't three how long do you need do you need one minute or two minutes and I wouldn't mind I'd like two minutes I wouldn't mind if they were interesting it's the same old shit it's bullshit it's not actually it's not actually he makes he's saying he's adopting the kids now like I can't he actually he actually is one of those people I look at and I'm like ugh why don't we give it one last one last chance Joanne this is the fourth time
16:38Joanne McNally:this better be fucking brilliant I spoke about him on stage in Liverpool and Manchester and the girls were very invested.
16:45Vogue Williams:They'd had they'd honestly had, they literally had drunk the place dry by then. They were invested in everything. You need an open mind, Bo. Come on. Come on. We can do this.
16:55Joanne McNally:He said the other day that he's gotten a part in his tenders. And he hasn't. Oh, I'm sorry. I am shocked. They contacted the BBC. The BBC said they haven't hired him. Also, he's on a travel ban. He can't even leave Dubai. so he's not going into his tenders
17:16Vogue Williams:thank fucking god that is the best news you've come with he can't leave Dubai I have never heard a greater sentence thank you
17:27Joanne McNally:also did you know that now I realise this isn't the room for this
17:32Vogue Williams:now this is a few things now you said you had one thing you wanted to say about him what's this now
17:37Joanne McNally:how does he think he's going to get away with saying he's got a part in his tenders
17:40Vogue Williams:he's taking the piss out of everybody he doesn't do you know what I I liken it to that's this is why I think I have such a problem with it I liken I liken it to being really stupid like he's trying to make people seem stupid and think that we actually believe his bullshit and I can't bear it because I feel like he doesn't even have two brain cells to rub together that's how I feel about him and I hate being dragged down to his level
18:06Joanne McNally:just trying to enjoy myself
18:07Vogue Williams:well do you know what I had something to say about North West today and I didn't because I said Joanne doesn't really like talking about the Kardashians and I won't.
18:14Joanne McNally:I know what this is. Spectra was like I find the whole North thing utterly bizarre. Why is she always on her own? Where are her parents? She's 13. She's just constantly floating around on her own. Do you know what I mean? Do you not know her son? Meet and greets and everything. Where are her parents? I find the whole thing I find it mental and I know exactly what you're going to talk about because that guy you fancy, Spectra Spectre Skepta
18:45Vogue Williams:Do you know what you want Someone I know Someone I know mails me This guy And he was like Is your husband really liberal And I was like what And he was like I just watched that video About the footballer And I was like I was like yeah I guess Like he's just kind of cool About that kind of stuff And then I was like Actually hang on Sven he's not on Instagram He wouldn't have seen that And I was like And he was like Oh okay And I was like Oh wait hang on He's not like Like we're not that kind of couple Like he's not that He's not that liberal he's not thinking I'm going off to try and like get it on with this footballer fella he's like he just knows
19:18Joanne McNally:I'd never do anything I think you've mixed up with a rule or Spencer knows you're up against me and Ruth Lansford and he's like she's not going to get it yeah good luck she's not going to get it looking because we're going to take it no one's getting through me and Ruth I can tell you
19:36Vogue Williams:that's why I took a step back I was like I'm not getting involved here this is too hard now. The stakes have gone up. I'm not that invested that I don't want to, I'm not getting the claws out for this one. I'll take this down back. No, the whole thing is I can say whatever I want about anyone because I am such a fucking frigid bitch that he knows I'd never do it. I'd be too scared. I need to be in love. No one can kiss till we're in love.
20:02Joanne McNally:We need feelings.
20:03Vogue Williams:We're feelers. Yeah, Joanne wouldn't even do it. If your man walked into her house right now naked, she'd run out the door
20:11Joanne McNally:Excuse me, folks. Speak for yourself. I just, I don't know. I done everything, Cheryl, last night. I'm good to go. Okay, he walks into your house naked.
20:22Vogue Williams:You'd be like, I have to have a drink first.
20:25Joanne McNally:Well, obviously. I mean, who rides, what psychopath rides sober? But apart from that, I'd obviously do a quick shot of tequila that I have at the door. Just in case. Is that your just in case bottle of the tour? Just in case any of the delivery, you guys. If there's a vibe, I'm like, all right, come in. A shot of tequila up the stairs. In you go. Tap, tap on the ass. Out you pop. 57 is the code. That's my washing machine. I've just finished another wash. Sorry. I'm drying out. It's a Monday. It's a Monday. Can you hear me? I'm literally washing winter jackets now at this stage just to get a high.
21:07Joanne McNally:Can I drop you a couple of loads? I'd love you to because I'm about to drop a load of boxes and the skip outside your house because the bin men are the war continues unbelievable stuff it's abuse I feel I feel
21:21Vogue Williams:I feel like I don't Joe and I really have to take a step back from each one I can't I can't risk that I've told you I'm too concerned that's why I have the bottle of tequila at the door
21:32Joanne McNally:because I'm like I'm going to have to shag one of these lads at some stage to get this back on track I'm going to have to stick the ankle out and be like to try and seduce one of them or something. I don't know how I'm going to get my recycling on a Wednesday.
21:45Vogue Williams:Why don't you leave like a little trail of eggshells and they'll come in to give out
21:51Joanne McNally:to you about the bins and then you'll just be there nude waiting. I think I'm just going to appear naked at the door wearing all the contaminated stickers that they've been putting on my bins for weeks across my nipples. I don't know. I told you you were wrong.
22:05Vogue Williams:I love you so much but I just I didn't even have your back for one second with this because I know that you're in the wrong.
22:11Joanne McNally:But I think now what's happening... Yeah, okay, sure, the start, yes. Sorry, I don't have a degree in refuse.
22:24Joanne McNally:Okay, so yeah, I probably did break some reels, right? But like now I'm trying, me and Lauren are like going through it line by line. That's Lauren's job with me at the moment. They're just trying to help me get these fucking bins taken away. And they're still not taking them. And now it feels personal. It feels personal. Because it is. It is personal, yeah. Because you've hurt them.
22:47Vogue Williams:You've done something. You've done something bad.
22:50Joanne McNally:Yeah, yeah.
22:51Vogue Williams:Okay. I've never written into anything before, but yesterday I did something so out of character that I am in disbelief that I did it. Oh.
23:00Joanne McNally:Oh, that's a great opener.
23:02Vogue Williams:Really good. I went on a second date last night. Our first date was about a month ago. I knew from that one he wasn't someone I would want long term, so I politely declined his second date, but said I thought he was lovely and wished him all the best. I kept his number and one evening he put up a WhatsApp story of him in a bar. I loved his outfit and liked the picture. This then led to him starting up a conversation. He told me that he put it up there on purpose in the hope of getting my attention. I joked. I joked about and we carried on talking. Nothing interesting. Just day to day. he became very flattering and said about meeting up.
23:38Vogue Williams:I knew that I didn't see it long term but I can be a bit harsh so I decided to meet him for a drink. It actually started off well. However, topics got brought up which showed our differences. He believes Michael Jackson's
23:54Joanne McNally:Love this. Go on. Michael Jackson's innocent. Do you think Michael Jackson's innocent?
24:01Vogue Williams:He believes Michael Jackson's innocent. he thinks Kanye West is a genius
24:06Joanne McNally:and
24:07Vogue Williams:to top it off he thinks Nigel Farage is what this country needs well like do you know what oh sorry hold on does he have a MAGA hat
24:22Joanne McNally:well I will do you know what I will say there's many like the Kanye West genius thing like I think even people who I mean obviously there's you know he's come out and explained that he's bipolar and all that stuff. But like even... Lots of people still think he's a genius. Yeah, regardless of whether they think he's having a breakdown or they think there's real beliefs or whatever. A lot of people do still think he's a genius. And I am always shocked when I meet normal people who think Michael Jackson wasn't a beautiful. I watched those three shows.
24:54Vogue Williams:It's just...
24:56Joanne McNally:I mean, the man had a playground in his driveway.
24:59Vogue Williams:But who could say?
25:01Joanne McNally:There's no way. I heard you are listening to Michael Jackson the other day. I watched the documentary. So, okay. I think you'll find that qualifies me more. Yeah.
25:15Joanne McNally:Well, I was chatting to someone on Facebook Marketplace the other day. Very informed. And I agree with them.
25:21Vogue Williams:I tried to change the conversation, but he couldn't believe that I thought Nigel Farage was bad and started laughing. I struggled to make eye contact. There was an awkward silence. I wanted to leave, but he asked me what my dream job would be. By this point, I couldn't be arsed to continue. He said he would let me think about it while he went to get a drink and go to the toilet. I saw him at the bar. It was quite busy and my body took over and I left.
25:47Joanne McNally:Wow.
25:51Vogue Williams:On my way to the car, I blocked him on WhatsApp, not really thinking it through. As when I got home, I had three missed calls from him. After about half an hour of being home, I decided to unblock and send it quick. I'm sorry for my behavior. I just didn't think we were a good match. I waited until he read it, then blocked him before he could answer. Am I wrong? I do feel guilty and have never done it before. I just couldn't sit with anyone who thought Nigel Farage was the answer. I mean, I have to be honest. I couldn't. There's certain views I'm able to look past in people. But like, if someone sat down and told me.
26:28Joanne McNally:And their point, like, you know, for where they're, yeah, we're not all going to agree on the same stuff all the time. It would make the world a very boring place.
26:34Vogue Williams:I have friends who have opinions on things that I completely disagree with, but it's just something that we never talk about. And I just leave them to their own opinion. But like, if someone's pushing like a political view on you, like if someone was like trying to make me wear a MAGA hat and like just be mad for Donald Trump, I'd be like, I just don't, I don't think this is the basis for a great relationship.
26:54Joanne McNally:It's not a farage. Now, excuse me and my Irish ignorance. You know I don't like to dabble in your business, Joe. My business? Oh, my country's business. Of your land. Yeah, I don't dabble. But here you come.
27:08Vogue Williams:Dibble dabble.
27:12Joanne McNally:She rolls up her sleeves for a hardcore dibble dabble. Is he not about to be Prime Minister?
27:19Vogue Williams:No. No general election has been held.
27:22Joanne McNally:But is there not talk that he has a very good chance of becoming the next Prime Minister?
27:25Vogue Williams:there are certain publications that would have you believe that there is not a general election for at least another two years there have been by election results which may suggest some support i i think doing a runner i do know what her on them was a little bit mean i i agree i think it was a bit i don't i don't agree with that she seems to know it was mean though doesn't she i think she she knows you do know it was mean but like probably you shouldn't have done that even though i think that you just got it was i mean there was a lot thrown in there you had Michael Jackson, Kanye West and Nigel Farage.
27:56Vogue Williams:In one conversation, you had a lot thrown at you. It was overwhelming.
28:00Joanne McNally:I think I'd rather have dinner with someone who thinks Nigel Farage is a good choice for the UK over someone who thinks Michael Jackson is innocent. Like, open your eyes!
28:14Vogue Williams:He was acquitted of all charges. Michael! Yeah, he was acquitted of everything. I believe or may think he was acquitted of all charges. what oh yeah you have to watch the documentary it's it's it's pretty now in fairness there was it was because there was oh god it was just unreliable things and stuff that was going on like obviously like if you actually watch it and you're of sane mind you will probably come up with the same um reasoning as joanne i mean how much you love thriller do we separate the art from the
28:50Joanne McNally:artist? A bigger question. You know, only if the artist is good. Yeah.
29:00Vogue Williams:The artist is not breaking the law. We can probably.
29:03Joanne McNally:We can separate. If it's the artist good, I'm happy to separate. If the artist is not good, I will not separate.
29:09Vogue Williams:That is it for today. Thank you so much everyone for listening. Joanne, if you don't keep us updated all day long with this hair, I'm in big trouble.
29:18Joanne McNally:I'm on the way to get sheared by Hadley. I'm going to stream it live. Listen. Folk, I wish you could feel them. They are huge. Big nuggets of hair. It's like two, I've like four goujons of hair hanging off the back of my head.
29:36Vogue Williams:An undercut worked for Miley Cyrus. It's going to work for you.
29:39Joanne McNally:Oh God, no. I put Stannis in to make me look like I've longer hair. Now I'm going to get an undercut.
29:48Vogue Williams:You've done well. I think you've done well for three months you only got you only got dreadlocked after three months Grant
29:54Joanne McNally:yeah you're right you're right
29:56Vogue Williams:we were expecting them after a couple of weeks to be honest yeah you're right
29:59Joanne McNally:on the Friday episode to see how it went I should be the face of a hair extension brand really if I got three months out of it without mashing it myself
30:07Vogue Williams:Joe I don't think us telling the listeners that like we'll tell them what happens with Joanne's hair on Friday is going to make them want to come back and listen if they watch on YouTube they can see how I have yeah I have a really big secret to tell you on Friday there you go oh hello
30:22Vogue Williams:I don't actually I'm only trying to get out Oh Now no one's Have I ever had a secret That was so exciting I know As soon as anything comes up I ring you and tell you
30:33Joanne McNally:Try and think of one For Friday I was like Do you know what I thought it was I said oh my god She's going to Graham Norton That's what I thought it was
30:40Vogue Williams:What would I be going Hello Graham I said what are you up to Just the same old
30:44Joanne McNally:You've got a new baby coming out
30:46Vogue Williams:You've got a new baby coming out
30:48Joanne McNally:on Friday's episode we need to have a proper chat about the Madonna interview on the Graham Norton show I haven't watched yet I heard it's eggy as fuck
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