In short
The hosts banter about hospital panic attacks, loud New York sirens, and “manosphere” drama, then pivot to a listener email about a husband who spends most of his time gaming (including streaming a friend) and neglects intimacy, leaving his wife feeling drained and coerced. They also discuss a mole that may need monitoring/removal and joke about replacing it with tattooed skin.
Guest backgrounds
No guests appear; it’s a bonus episode featuring Joanne McNally and Vogue (the hosts).
Key claims
Panic attacks can mimic heart attacks; intimacy requires effort earlier in the day (citing Esther Perel); gaming chairs and gaming habits are a major turnoff; if a mole is removed, it could be replaced with a tattooed mole/freckles by a specialist.
Notable examples
Friends wearing heart monitors after suspected heart attacks; a child’s final vaccine visit; “HS Tiki Taki” allegedly having a fan account; a story about donating bodies to science (including cannon/medical testing jokes).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWine Preferences and Sirens
0:46 to 2:30
Discussion about wine serving sizes and the loudness of New York sirens.
“I mean, if you're going to pour a wine You have to, you pour a wine, right?”
Hospital Visits and Panic Attacks
2:31 to 4:50
Reflecting on past hospital visits and experiences with panic attacks.
“Physically, I'm very above average, I would say, actually.”
Childhood and Health Anecdotes
4:51 to 7:00
Sharing stories about childhood experiences and health concerns.
“which means I'm male and old enough that if there's ever anything wrong with me, I just don't do anything about it and deny it.”
Drinking Responsibly and Social Interactions
7:01 to 8:40
A humorous take on drinking responsibly and social media interactions.
“I have to be extra careful at the moment when I'm getting into cars.”
The Manosphere and Celebrity Commentary
8:41 to 12:00
Discussion about online personalities and commentary on the Manosphere.
“Tell us how much, like, what's the litreage there?”
Fan Accounts and Cosmetic Procedures
12:01 to 14:00
Conversations about fan accounts and cosmetic enhancements.
“I never noticed how much he spat when he spoke.”
Fan Accounts and Personal Moles
14:00 to 14:16
Discussion about fan accounts and the personal significance of a mole.
“I created a fan account for HS Tiki Taki.”
Tattooing a Mole
14:16 to 15:08
Exploration of getting a tattooed mole as a replacement for a removed one.
“But I have been in touch with Kim, who, Kim from the Dublin Makeup Academy, basically, she...”
Mole Removal Concerns
15:08 to 15:42
Concerns about the health of the mole and humorous ideas for a funeral.
“If you get rid of that mole, I will come down and I will decapitate you myself.”
Celebrity Appearances and Airbnb Stories
15:42 to 16:47
Recollections of a recent show appearance and a bizarre Airbnb experience.
“we'd have to have a little funeral for it.”
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Murder and Crime Scene Fascination
16:47 to 18:40
Discussion about the fascination with crime scenes and body donation.
“I read, I follow this really scary Instagram page and it starts telling me about these terrible murders and I'm like, this can't be good for me.”
Gaming and Relationship Struggles
18:40 to 20:05
Insights into the impact of gaming on relationships and intimacy issues.
“Like why are they shooting me out of a cannon?”
Navigating Relationship Dynamics
20:05 to 23:00
Advice on how to address intimacy and presence in relationships.
“I say girl, I mean a nearly 40 something, two kids and married.”
The Importance of Effort in Relationships
23:00 to 24:31
Discussion on the necessity of mutual effort in intimate relationships.
“Now, obviously, I, as a feminist incel, don't have a lot of knowledge on the kind of situations at the moment.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:10Vogue Williams:Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me, the bonus episode of myself with Joanne McNally and with Jo and my name is Vogue. I forgot to say. Fair play.
0:22Joanne McNally:Yeah, it's like she skipped herself there.
0:25Vogue Williams:That is, like, is that a regular glass of wine Or is that a large glass of wine? It's a regular glass I'm not shading you I actually just I'm just trying to figure out If that's a regular sized glass of wine I just feel like when I'm in restaurants I see them pour like a slither And I'm like, what's the fucking point? They've just given them a shot of wine Yeah
0:43Joanne McNally:Joe and me, we like a mega pint, don't we Joe? Oh wow I mean, if you're going to pour a wine You have to, you pour a wine, right?
0:49Vogue Williams:Pour fucking wine You two obviously drink it before it gets warm. Some people who drink it like at a normal pace, theirs gets warm, but yours is just walked.
1:00Joanne McNally:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, the sirens in New York, I honestly think if I was having a heart attack and there was an ambulance coming to save me, the noise of the sirens would kill me off. They are so loud. I don't understand. I thought London was bad. This is out of control.
1:17Vogue Williams:You know, when one goes by in London, I'm literally blocking my ears.
1:20Joanne McNally:I think it's... Imagine being in the throes of a stroke in the back of an ambulance and you have to deal with the noise. God, I never thought about that. That would be awful. You'd just be like... Shit's bad enough. Like I'm... These are potentially my last moments on this earth. And... For God's sake, give me some peace and quiet. I'm trying to have a stroke here. Yeah, exactly. Some slow pond, like kind of water dripping or something more relaxing. I can't get my head around it. what's the most ridiculous thing you've ever gone to hospital for? well I mean the obvious answer is trying to revert to my birth weight of 3 pounds and 7 ounces but I'm trying to think of physically that's not ridiculous
2:03Joanne McNally:fair enough trying to fit back into my christening dress but apart from that I've got now Adjuan it's important to have goals listen we all need a purpose in this life okay Mom, what should I leave the hospital in? Because I just want to see if it fits.
2:29Joanne McNally:What about you? I'm not really unwell, like physically. I'm not unwell mentally. Physically, I'm very above average, I would say, actually.
2:43Vogue Williams:I once went to a hospital with, I was having a panic attack and I genuinely thought I was having a heart attack and I was like sitting there collapsing in the hospital and then eventually like, and they had to do all tests on me and everything. They're like, you're not. Because I was like, my dad died. Like he had loads of heart attacks and now I'm having one for being associated with him. And then it was like, no, you're actually just having a panic attack. A panic attack.
3:08Joanne McNally:They're kind of wild. Like I have two friends of mine, both went to hospital and you, so three, thinking they were having a heart attack. and it was a panic attack. I remember on my 21st birthday, one of my bestest friends, we went out, just the two of us, and she was wearing like a heart monitor and everything. And we were like drinking and smoking in pegs. Do you remember pegs? No. Sorry, not pegs, legs. Yes. I was like, pegs, where's that? Legs, yes. Do you remember legs? Yes, I remember legs. Legs at this club and town show where you could drink and smoke. chair like was you know it was the 40s or whenever the fuck we were in there I can't remember I would like that very much yeah and we were like we went to we went to legs for my birthday and uh she had had what we didn't understand we were so young but she had a panic attack so she thought she was having a heart attack anyway she rocked in she was wearing a heart monitor and um yeah they get you
4:02Vogue Williams:to track it yeah but like I say the alcohol and smokes were really helpful towards the accuracy of that heart monitor.
4:09Joanne McNally:She's sitting, she's opposite me doing like the trolley dance, like packing the shelves. She'd do a couple of yokes as well just to see if it really tested.
4:22Joanne McNally:She's like, oh, according to the data, I'm coming up. I'm like, yeah, I can see in your eyes you're coming up, to be honest.
4:29Vogue Williams:As soon as you told me you loved me, I knew you were coming up.
4:38Joanne McNally:Yeah, it's the only time she really spoke to me that openly. But anyway, so I understand. I've heard that the panic attack thing is a problem. What about you, Jo?
4:48Vogue Williams:Well, I'm not old, but I was born in the very early 90s, which means I'm male and old enough that if there's ever anything wrong with me, I just don't do anything about it and deny it. And that's probably why I'll die.
5:00Joanne McNally:You'll get prostate cancer, Jo, but I'll tell you, you'll die with it, not from it.
5:04Vogue Williams:That's it. that's the way
5:06Joanne McNally:that's the way we do it you get the really really slow one you'll die with it
5:11Vogue Williams:not from it best case scenario I just had to take Otto to the doctor because there's the final injection they get is is this pre-skill booster and I'm like and he was really happy when we got there he was really excited and he walked in and he's like can I have a plaster and she's like not yet not yet hold on is that child not vaccinated he is vaccinated but this will be his final one
5:35Joanne McNally:So he's not vaccinated So I've been at risk The whole time Yeah yeah yeah
5:40Vogue Williams:He has put you In harm's way Joanne You have been playing with fire Oh my god Hanging around with that boy
5:46Joanne McNally:He should be wearing a badge What's he not vaccinated from? Am I going to get measles Mumps and rib You might get polio
5:55Vogue Williams:You might get polio That'll be a nightmare Imagine Joanne In an iron lung For the rest of her life she'd probably enjoy it in there.
6:06Joanne McNally:It's the boffers, but with like healthier boundaries.
6:10Vogue Williams:Get me this! Just be, you piss me off
6:16Joanne McNally:and there'll be a power outage gone. Spoon around. Spoon around in like a cement mixer kind of vibe, just like making demands on people, yeah.
6:23Vogue Williams:But he was so polite when we left because I was like, my kids are really polite, so he was kind of crying and I was like, and say thank you. And he's like, that year. Bye.
6:33Joanne McNally:this doesn't boudre well for him this kid is going to get into a van he's going to go
6:38Vogue Williams:yes sorry Johan we've had this conversation before how many people's cars have I gotten into by accident I now have to make a conscious effort I'm like and I ask them I'm like where are you going just to make sure yeah yeah yeah because if I tell them then they might say oh yeah of course let's take her yeah yeah
6:55Joanne McNally:no of course yeah we need to be yeah aware
6:57Vogue Williams:oh my god oh my god because I'm looking well and look at my hair it looks great I have to be extra careful at the moment when I'm getting into cars. My hair looks fantastic. Now, sorry about the sirens
7:07Joanne McNally:but I've huge news. More?
7:10Vogue Williams:Oh yeah, go on.
7:13Joanne McNally:Punch the monkey has a girlfriend.
7:18Vogue Williams:I saw. I know.
7:21Joanne McNally:She's a beard.
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7:22Vogue Williams:Oh, you think he's a gay monkey?
7:24Joanne McNally:Listen, I know a gay when I see a gay. He's gay. And he's gay and this is the next PR stunt because people are losing interest in a man like no one you know you can only watch a monkey get punched so many times before you like zone out she's a beard I've said it here first so you think he's going to show his I'm very good with predictions I've I've very rarely been proved wrong this woman is a beard I mean sorry can I just
7:54Vogue Williams:I have to ask one thing when have you ever been proven right remember that day and she was like oh no I'm sure of that and then Joe fact-checked it and he was like, no. Well, I'm... I think you've mixed it up here. Well, folk, obviously you're going to be wrong
8:07Joanne McNally:if someone fact-checks me. That's obviously there. That's sort of the trouble. Yeah, yeah. But when no one involves themselves. Oh. Okay. Well, then I believe it. Yes. Also, I'm going to say
8:23Vogue Williams:I've had some drinks. Are you going to show us... We've been waiting nine and a half minutes for you to show us the size of the bottle of wine. she told us she had a surprise and it's been sitting on the side I'm waiting for her to pull it out
8:34Joanne McNally:I woke up this morning and I was like oh my god I'm off all day today like I'm buzzing like even though I love my job blah blah blah but I was like oh it's so nice I'm off I've the whole day off and then I did an Insta story talking about the fact that I was off and then I got like immediate emails from all sides being like you're not off you've meetings I was watching that and I was like oh we're not doing the pod later yeah I know I know
8:57Vogue Williams:meetings shmeetings
8:58Joanne McNally:meetings yeah and then obviously use and I was like well I've made plans on myself now so it's very hard I don't let myself down anyway look so I had three wines like whatever
9:10Vogue Williams:ah Joanne you've been way more drunk on this podcast this is sober Joanne oh my god look at the size
9:16Joanne McNally:of that bottle of Barefoot
9:18Vogue Williams:is that a what are we saying is that a magnum or a baltazar
9:22Joanne McNally:it's the size of a child what how much is in that how many liters so okay now bearing in mind look I'm not greedy like I like a I like a crisp glass of barefoot or something Michelle's always slagging me she's like if she comes over she brings around wine I was like why are you bringing around wine I've loads of wine she goes I don't want to drink wine with feet in them Joanne I was like fine I wouldn't say Joanne
9:48Vogue Williams:is a sommelier to be honest with you
9:50Joanne McNally:oh no no no like I have a very very cheap palette like I my palette hasn't developed since the student days and I don't care I'm happy with that
9:58Vogue Williams:Yeah, well, I mean, it saves you loads of cash. So fuck the Sancerre. You stick with the barefoot. Sancerre? What a fucking rip. Look at this bad boy. Tell us how much, like, what's the litreage there? It's the size of a Honda Civic. Are you looking at it? Can you see it? We can hardly miss it. You're shoving it in front of the screen. How much is in it? 1.5 litres. Oh, it looks bigger than that. Do you think? Yeah, I think it looks like, I think it looks like two litres at least.
10:26Joanne McNally:Now I'd like to know something about wine I don't drink wine Vogue as a woman with huge hands if you held this now your hands would look miniature I'll send you one
10:35Vogue Williams:Yeah they would actually
10:35Joanne McNally:You'd love it That's what Spenny says What? You should Oh I forgot he's hung I totally forgot about that
10:47Vogue Williams:Have you seen it? No I wouldn't know
10:52Joanne McNally:Not that we do weird stuff but there is potential He sends me photos, but I never open them, Vogue. Out of respect for you. I never open them.
11:01Vogue Williams:That's how I know you're... I said, I test you. I'm a girl's girl. Because I asked him, I told him, send her a wank video, get her with that. And if she opens that, that's it, we're finished.
11:10Joanne McNally:Yeah, when he sends the wanking videos, I just send a thumbs up in a really passive-aggressive, so not to encourage anything else, but to acknowledge respectfully, because obviously we have a personal relationship.
11:22Vogue Williams:she puts on airplane mode and watches it and then turns her phone back on is that a thing? I think so well I don't know I wouldn't test it because I'd be too scared yeah I'd be too scared yeah I don't even watch people's stories like you know like someone has sent me stories of exes of mine and I've just clicked onto it not thinking and I'm like why'd you do that? they'll see that I've seen it but I don't know if they'll actually do they see that you've seen it then?
11:46Joanne McNally:yes that happened to me as well do you remember I told you this before someone sent me a video of an ex of mine his story and I was really annoyed with her I was like why did you do that? She was like oh sorry I was like I've just watched his story now No thanks a lot Yeah
12:03Vogue Williams:Before we move too far past it I do need to say please drink responsibly and don't send unsolicited wank videos No no Sorry Jo No no no No no no No I've had enough I don't want any more wank videos I've told you No
12:21Joanne McNally:Preach what you choir Joe Preach what you choir
12:34Vogue Williams:So we were talking about The Manosphere last week Guess What HS Tiki Taki TikTok HS TikTok yeah Did a video about Penny's Manosphere post. He's flying off the handle a bit. He's really losing control. I never noticed how much he spat when he spoke. You'd need a fucking windscreen in front of you if you had to go for dinner with him. Can I watch it now? Yeah, and then he did. And then he said, he slagged off my mole. That's all I got.
13:09Joanne McNally:That's it. Sorry, I need to see this stat.
13:13Vogue Williams:So for context, Spencer had done quite a long post hadn't he that was very well thought out and he'd said that it was all it was all quite disgusting about the manosphere yeah and then and then HS Tiki Tiki was was saying that Spencer was like himself which I can attest to that he is most certainly not and then HS Tiki Tiki snagged my mole
13:34Joanne McNally:hold on so I'm following so I've looked up HS Tiki Tiki this obviously isn't the right account because he only has like 30 ,000 followers I'm assuming he doesn't have that many followers
13:44Vogue Williams:on Instagram. Maybe everyone
13:47Joanne McNally:That can't be. That can't be. Maybe everybody stopped following him. No, fan account. A fan account.
13:53Vogue Williams:Oh God. That's like imagine like you grow up and you're like what was the most embarrassing thing you did as a child? Well I was I created a fan account for HS Tiki Taki. How cringe. Like you could never live that down.
14:05Joanne McNally:Everyone has a fan account Vogue. I think we're the only people who don't to be honest.
14:10Vogue Williams:Remember my mole used to have its own fan account. Now that fan account has even gone off the mole.
14:14Joanne McNally:Oh, I'd be very upset about that if I was here.
14:16Vogue Williams:I don't know. I don't know if the mole can stay. I'm not sure. I'm worried. But I have been in touch with Kim, who, Kim from the Dublin Makeup Academy, basically, she...
14:26Joanne McNally:Broward.
14:27Vogue Williams:You're going to have eyebrows put on. I'm just getting a tash. I'm just getting her to do a full tash.
14:35Vogue Williams:She tattoos areolas on women's breasts when they've had breast cancer and stuff like that, if they've had to have a mastectomy. And I thought, well, if she can do areolas, which are very difficult, if I had to get rid of the mole, which I'd be very sad about because it's just like part of my face, maybe she could draw, like tattoo a mole on. And she says she thinks she could.
14:55Joanne McNally:Hold on. So you're saying if you removed it, you'd have it replaced immediately.
15:01Vogue Williams:Yeah. With a tattoo. So I'd still have the mole, but it would just not be, it would be a pretend.
15:07Joanne McNally:If you get rid of that.
15:08Vogue Williams:And she could do freckles on your nose.
15:10Joanne McNally:If you get rid of that mole, I will come down and I will decapitate you myself. Do not crack. Do not bow down to these trolly wankers.
15:18Vogue Williams:No, I'm not cracking. That's not, it's actually because someone told me that I might have to get rid of it. We're in the keeping an eye on it stage. Like just because they tend to get bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, well, it's kind of, we can't see your face. But it's not like, it's not like, it's not like. It's not definite. Cancerous. No, no, no, no. It's not cancerous. No, no, no, no. But it's also not definite. But if it did happen, we'd have to have a little funeral for it. Oh yeah, we'd freeze it off
15:45Joanne McNally:and bury it in the garden. I would actually like to cremate it and I would like a few ashes myself. Yeah, I could get a necklace made for you just out of the mole ash.
15:52Vogue Williams:Like Elton John in his kneecap. Exactly. Why don't, do you know what? Actually, hang on. Why don't I get you a tube of formaldehyde and I'll just pop the mole in there and you can just like wear it as a chain. Like that ring that you wear.
16:04Joanne McNally:So I, by the time this airs, the show will have been gone, but I was on the Claudia Winkerman chat show on Friday. Yes. Yeah, last week. I was on my Guz Can. Oh, sorry. I was on my Guz Can. Niall Horan. Rachel Ziegler. Rachel Ziegler. Have I told you this already? Yeah. About who Rachel was named after? You didn't say who she was named after. So, sorry. So, I won't go on about it, but Rachel Ziegler was named after Rachel from Friends. Really? That's how young she is. Oh my God, yeah. Anyway, it's not insane. Anyway, Guz Can was telling a story that he rented an Airbnb and be somewhere in Phoenix, America or something.
16:41Joanne McNally:And the house was really weird and the cameras were kind of following them and then they opened a wardrobe and there was just vials of blood. Like loads of vials of blood.
16:49Vogue Williams:People are odd, aren't they? I'm scared of people. They're odd. Really, I am. I read, I follow this really scary Instagram page and it starts telling me about these terrible murders and I'm like, this can't be good for me. But it's so fascinating to read and to see like the sentences and stuff people get, but it's like, it's definitely not good for the bird.
17:07Joanne McNally:One of my favourite Instagram accounts is for a crime scene account where it's just, I watch videos of people cleaning up like brain matter off walls.
17:17Vogue Williams:Do you know what though as well? Not that I was planning on doing it, but donating your body to medical science. Do you know sometimes they pull those bodies out after like 30 years and people are still like going through stuff and dissecting stuff. So you're just like, yeah, it's not like, oh, here's the bod, like have a go on it and then it's done. It's like, here's the bod, let's freeze it again and then take it back out. And they're like, no. I know, I just don't know. I just, I'm all for like advancements in medicine, but I just think use your hands body, please. I'd appreciate that. Sometimes if you donate your body to science, they can actually end up using it in the army and they shoot ammunition at it and stuff just to see what happens.
18:01Vogue Williams:Yeah, sorry, do you not remember the woman who got shot out of a cannon? We spoke about this. She donated her body to... They'll shoot you with a tank and all sorts. Yeah, this woman, basically, her son tried to stop it. She donated her body to medical science and they shot her out of a cannon. And he was like, I don't want my mother's body being shot out of a cannon. And they were like, well, she's donated it. And that's what they did. Yeah, and sometimes they leave you just to Ross in the open so they can see the decomposition of a body so they see how long it takes and like this body's been here for 10 years or this body's been here or all those kinds of stuff.
18:34Vogue Williams:If I'm donating my body to science.
18:36Joanne McNally:Anyway, we do an email. My body to science, not the circus. Like why are they shooting me out of a cannon? Jesus. Because I would have done that,
18:45Vogue Williams:but now I won't. Well, do you know like they test car crashes as well with bodies. So they place a body in a car and then it has a car crash and they see like the force of it going through the windscreen or like, yeah, all that kind of stuff. I know. And you wouldn't mind if they shot you out of a cannon and pulled your eyes out. But do donate your organs because it's really important. Do. Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah. The organs, like, fair enough. I'm even given the eyes. I don't mind. Everything can go. And I've got 20-20 vision, so they can go too. One last thing that I saw on that page, this girl who was doing crystal meth all day and she was in like a 96-hour psychosis and hadn't slept, she gauged her own eyes out.
19:26Joanne McNally:Vogue is this like the time you tell me that someone went to a party took an E and peeled himself like an orange and then do you remember No that was acid that was acid
19:35Joanne McNally:and do you remember we googled it and it was an urban myth it's on Reddit it's been going around for years
19:39Vogue Williams:John how dare you have I fact checked you today how fucking dare you let's do an email I've had enough of you my barefoot's getting warm
19:58Vogue Williams:Bloody love you guys. Seeing you on tour, had a bloody blast. Fumbled Joanne's paenophile tour dates. Okay. Anywho, help a girl out. I say girl, I mean a nearly 40 something, two kids and married. Girl. That's a girl. Let me tell you, I adore my husband. Not very great at showing it. We were married more than 10 years ago. I've experienced some atrocious highs and lows, all of which he and his extended family have been beyond amazing. But behind closed doors the past few years, he's been gaming. Oh no. Not just computer gaming. I'm talking one earbud in, watching his fat single friend streaming kind of gaming 24-7.
20:40Vogue Williams:And my husband that ignores me and the kids most of the time is complaining about the lack of intimacy.
20:46Joanne McNally:Hold on. Sorry. Repeat. Who's complaining about intimacy? The husband.
20:51Vogue Williams:Got it. As soon as you whipped out that gaming chair, the Sahara whipped up. There was a sandstorm in between her legs. That is not going to change.
21:00Joanne McNally:We've been very clear on our stance on gaming chairs.
21:03Vogue Williams:Do you know Alexander? Now, he grew out of it, my brother, but he used to lock himself in a room and he would have this long extension lead leaving his room and he would lock in and he'd be on one of those headphone things and he'd be talking to randomers on the internet playing the Call of Duty stuff and we'd be like, you loser.
21:21Joanne McNally:Oh God, yeah. You're like, this guy's going to shoot up a skill.
21:25Vogue Williams:I think we once unplugged it as a joke and oh my God, I swear we'd killed his first born child.
21:32Joanne McNally:I'll say one thing first of all. One thing we're consistent on is our disdain of gaming chairs. It's probably the only thing we're consistent on. Yeah, that's fair.
21:40Vogue Williams:We could change our mind on absolutely everything else. Anything. Just not gaming chairs. Cut to me posting a video in a gaming chair saying hashtag gift. Yeah, fun collab. Yeah, of course. Okay. Joanne will be like I'm saving for the gaff I had to do it I had to clap Okay My husband that works less than me a week but does not pick up the slack or make an effort never cooked me a decent meal is complained about the lack of intimacy Am I losing my mind? I genuinely do not feel I can have these conversations with my friends He doesn't show up on the daily and just turns his computer off to grope me and I coerce sex and it gives me the biggest ick.
22:26Vogue Williams:As I said, he was not a gamer when we met and this is a new thing but he is not present day to day and just drains me. I'm sorry. If you're in a relationship and you're not getting attention and then they just turn around and expect the ride later on, I'm like, absolute. You need to work for that in different ways as in like, empty the dishwasher. Let's be a team. Let's actually get on with each other during the day or else forget it.
22:49Joanne McNally:Yeah. Esther Perel, Well, my good friend and confidant who doesn't know I exist has always spoken. She's been very clear that it starts in the morning. Like if you want to ride your partner in the evening, you have to start that sexual, put in the sexual shift from the morning. Now, obviously, I, as a feminist incel, don't have a lot of knowledge on the kind of situations at the moment. Kind of the fact that people are still riding kind of blows my mind. But that's what I would, that would be my opinion on it. I'm like is that still happening are people still riding but that would be my opinion on it
23:23Vogue Williams:I know people nearly in their 80s you can't just drop the hand
23:25Joanne McNally:on your wife at the end of the day it's like when you've been fucking when you've been gaming when you've been gaming like Percy Gaming isn't it's it's not attractive in of itself and you can't just drop the hand it's there's nothing worse ugh I remember going out with a guy years ago and I would dread going to bed because I was like and this and like I'm not a frigid Fiona I'm saying because there was no there was no there was no rapport during the day like no rapport and then it was just you just put in this shift nice just get ridden by this lad like you're like I'm not this isn't fun for me this isn't the track no and I think that I just want to watch Love is Blind like leave me alone or like let's engage this conversation half an hour before we get into the bed
24:16Vogue Williams:yeah
24:16Joanne McNally:I feel this woman
24:17Vogue Williams:I know but there's such a like I just I just no he does he needs to put in more of a shift and make more of an effort not let you feel like that you're doing most of the heavy lifting and just the gaming the gaming has to stop I couldn't bear it I couldn't bear it
24:31Joanne McNally:I don't is he making money at the game and I wonder now Vogue you did do an ad for Nintendo
24:36Vogue Williams:I know but I gave that up because I couldn't stop the gaming I understand what's happening to this man listen it's an easy it's an now I am I was going to buy a couple of arcade games for our new house is that bad I can't do that either there's no chair I don't know what that means like Pac-Man and stuff like that like you know arcade anyway it doesn't matter listen the point is it's a bit gross what he's doing also sometimes when something gives you the ick you have to stop Spenny kept going on about his new car he's so obsessed with it and it got to the point where I was like you're grossing me out like you keep you keep telling everybody about it and you're talking about it all the time it's too much
25:09Joanne McNally:I didn't even know he could drive
25:12Vogue Williams:yeah he can drive
25:13Joanne McNally:fair play to them
25:18Vogue Williams:Well, what's the plan for today? I'm off to LA this evening. Joanne's off to LA and I have to finish by saying, oh, well, I'm going to go to bed around half seven. But yeah, have a great...
25:29Joanne McNally:What a great finisher. I thought I was off today and I'm not. So I haven't put my best foot forward, but I'm here.
25:38Vogue Williams:Well, I'm glad that you're here and thank you. And I appreciate you. Okay, you have a nice time in LA. And thanks for all the New York tips. It was really nice to hear about you.
25:58Vogue Williams:I'm glad I know about those pesky sirens because goddammit I won't be visiting there anytime soon
26:03Joanne McNally:Guys I gotta go I'm gonna head to the Rockefeller Centre
26:07Vogue Williams:Say hi to the Statue of Liberty for me okay
26:28Vogue Williams:This has been a Global Player original production.
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Joanne dials in from New York with strong views on deafening sirens and a very large bottle of Barefoot, while Vogue weighs in on panic attacks, punch the Monkey’s new girlfriend (or beard) and reveals the possibility of her mole getting its own memorial. Plus, they discuss the horrors of donating your body to science, unsolicited videos, and one listener whose husband’s gaming habit is killing the mood completely.
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