In short
The hosts riff on ageing, cosmetic surgery/facials, and pet loss, then shift into advice for a listener on how to tell a judgmental mum about a new boyfriend with a large age gap.
Guests/backgrounds
Joanne McNally (host/comedian, tests beauty treatments; touring and performing live), Vogue Williams (co-host; discusses dating/sex-cruise jokes and audience crushes), Jo Attywell (carer/assistant).
Key claims
Facelifts are improving due to new technology; people “age in dog years”; don’t hide relationship facts from your mum—longer lies make it worse; age gaps don’t determine relationship success.
Notable examples
Cat “Monkey” misdiagnosed as having protruding bones (matted fur); dog Winston possibly nearing end of life; listener is 27 dating a 47-year-old and considers lying about his age.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCosmetic Procedures and Aging
0:45 to 1:32
Discussion on facial aesthetics and the effects of aging.
“Joe, I can tell you now I know there are not a lot of perks to working with Vogue and I but if there's one thing we can offer it's facial aesthetics connections.”
Winston's Health Concerns
1:32 to 3:31
Joanne shares updates about her pet Winston's health issues.
“But anyway, because I'm going to be going to Australia later on in the year, and a friend of mine was also going to Australia and we were like, would we nip into South Korea on the way home?”
Reflections on Loss and Love
3:31 to 6:14
The hosts reflect on the emotional weight of losing pets and relationships.
“and I had him in the vet this week and he had to stay a couple of nights and he's back now, but like he's not really eating.”
Modern Parenthood and Aging
6:14 to 7:09
Discussion around parenting, aging, and societal expectations on women.
Joanne's Future Plans
7:09 to 8:06
Joanne discusses her future plans regarding motherhood.
“So you've been, so medically tested, I've been proven correct medically.”
Live Show Experiences
8:06 to 10:01
Joanne shares experiences from her recent live shows.
“Geroad said that he spent his first five minutes of a set dedicating it directly to them.”
Advice on Dating and Family
10:01 to 14:01
Listeners seek advice on how to tell their judgmental mother about a new boyfriend.
“But I don't know if, it never came back.”
Navigating Breakups and Relationships
14:01 to 14:49
A discussion about the complexities of recent breakups and relationships.
“Everyone's we inform each other of what's going on whether it be negative or positive Okay for context I broke up my ex recently We'd been together three and a half years, living together, have a dog, etc.”
Mother's Judgement and Expectations
14:50 to 15:29
Exploring the mother's comments on being single and her expectations.
Age Gap Relationships
15:30 to 16:01
Discussing the dynamics of relationships with significant age gaps.
“pretty serious now and I know there's only so long I can put it off for.”
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Debate on Relationship Dynamics
16:02 to 17:38
A lively debate about relationships and societal perceptions of age differences.
“We are totally content and happy with each other and how things are going.”
Mother-Daughter Relationship Dynamics
17:39 to 19:16
Examining the complexities of mother-daughter relationships and expectations.
“Like, obviously, your mom is going to be pissed off.”
Living Life on Your Own Terms
19:17 to 20:38
Encouragement to live authentically despite parental expectations.
“what was that plastic surgery thing tell them I meet them in South Korea what was the plastic surgery thing that you had Remember months ago we were talking about some weird plastic surgery place name?”
Closing Thoughts and Listener Engagement
20:39 to 21:54
Wrapping up the episode with listener engagement and closing remarks.
“And I was like, Pat, I said, how could you do that?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:10Joanne McNally:Hello, welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me. With me, Joanne McNally and her...
0:15Vogue Williams:I actually can't hear you because I've knocked off my headphones, so thank you. I'm lip-reading, which I'm actually quite good at because of the bad hearing.
0:22Joanne McNally:Vogue Williams! There you go. Yeah, Vogue Williams. And our carer, Jo Attywell.
0:31Vogue Williams:Someone needs to have me in at some point because you two are now visibly younger than I am and it's getting unacceptable. Joe, you have a child and you're very tired so we can't really help with that because in a couple of months when the baby feels better we'll get you a facial but it would only be wasted on you now. You'll still look wrecked.
0:48Joanne McNally:Joe, I can tell you now I know there are not a lot of perks to working with Vogue and I but if there's one thing we can offer it's facial aesthetics connections. It's new face. It's new face. That is one thing we have in abundance. We're basically running hospitals out here between the two of us. Aren't we about? Yeah.
1:09Vogue Williams:And Joanne likes to test drive everything so I'll let her test drive something in case her face falls off and then if it doesn't fall off I'll head in after.
1:16Joanne McNally:Well, there was a really interesting article recently in The Cut all about the quality of facelifts now and how they're saying even doctors who aren't that good at lifting faces are getting really good results because there's all this new technology and new machines and everything. But anyway, because I'm going to be going to Australia later on in the year, and a friend of mine was also going to Australia and we were like, would we nip into South Korea on the way home? Just bop in. And get a little, get a little get a little Joanne would come back, you need to get a new
1:49Vogue Williams:passport.
1:51Joanne McNally:I was like, my, my, my
1:57Vogue Williams:I'm sorry mum, you can't fly on this, why not?
1:59Joanne McNally:I hope they turn me into a tiny South Korean woman. That would be my dream.
2:02Vogue Williams:If I could just be bronzed, it's just about the bronze for me. Well, I know, I know, but I'm always wearing peg down, but if I could just be naturally bronzed.
2:10Joanne McNally:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not white, basically, yeah. We do age the worst.
2:17Vogue Williams:We do, we rot. All we do is we're born and we rot and it's very difficult for us to keep stuff up because the rotting is so intense. Yeah, they used to say it in Prosecco Express,
2:28Joanne McNally:is the punishment for the privilege. We age in dog years. Yeah. Hideous because we're completely translucent.
2:37Vogue Williams:Oh my God, poor Winnie. We were laughing about him on the pod last week. He's not. Oh, poor Winnie. I know, he's not great. He's not great. And Amber, of course. Right, we used to have this cat called Monkey and Amber rarely pet Monkey and when she did pet Monkey, she was like, oh Jesus, we have to take her to the bed. All her bones are sticking out of her back and so we bring monkeys the vet and Amber was like we understand we know you have to put her down and the vet just talked to Amber and was like it's actually it's just matted fur so I'll just shave it off so Amber what? so it's just matted fur Amber thought her bones were sticking out and once they were put down
3:14Joanne McNally:I already have some questions about the monkey story was this a family cat or is this recently?
3:21Vogue Williams:no this was our family cat this is the cat that Frederick had and she lived to many many years but she didn't need to put her down when Amber suggested it. But Winston hasn't been well and I had him in the vet this week and he had to stay a couple of nights and he's back now, but like he's not really eating. He's just gone. I know I've been crying loads, but he's all right now and he's back and he's not really eating. So Amber's obviously been over this weekend and he's been like sedated and stuff in the vet. So he's a little bit slower. She's gone home and I get a text from Neil and it's like, he's basically telling me to put Winnie down as well.
3:54Vogue Williams:I'm like, what the hell has she gone to say? I was like, I'm not going to keep him alive for my own benefit but I'm not going to put him down because Amber thinks he's moving too slowly. Not yet.
4:04Joanne McNally:She's like the antithesis of David Attenborough. She's like the complete polar opposite of David Attenborough. She's like the second an animal sneezes she's like put it down. Yeah. Get rid of the animals.
4:15Vogue Williams:I'll tell you what Neil said he said he said I hate to bring up the subject because I know how upsetting it is for you and the kids unfortunately I think poor Winston is coming to end of his time. Sorry Neil. when did you last see Winston? I'm so sorry to be saying this and it's very distressing but you have to show selfless love Neil so I'm going to ring Amber now and give her a bollocking she'll have me put down next I was going to say it sounds like Neil would have you put down
4:46Joanne McNally:they nearly had me off when I had that flu they were sending me to Switzerland yeah Spenny getting a text going sorry now Spencer it's time to show some selfless love get rid of her she's not going to recover from this well you know it's really hard losing a pet, I know he's still with us but it is really hard losing a pet
5:09Vogue Williams:it is, it's going to honestly I feel bad for Sven it's not going to be good even Bertie was like where's Winnie who am I going to annoy when he was gone off in the vets for a couple of days if he does go we'll add a we'll add a minute silence at the end of one of the podcasts in his memory if he does go
5:27Joanne McNally:or we can replay that coughing video is that too dark?
5:31Vogue Williams:probably a bit I actually got a vid before he went into the vet to show how bad he was so we could just overlay some nice music to that and offer him that silence
5:40Joanne McNally:this is the tax of love is the pain of loss
5:45Vogue Williams:honestly but like I was honestly thinking to myself I was like I'm not getting another dog after this I am not touch wood like when he like he might he's on steroids now I'm giving him all I can but I just I think honestly I don't think I think I'll be so upset by this that I think I'll have to I don't want to know the dog no yeah
6:02Joanne McNally:I understand it that's the way I feel about relationships and parents I wish I had none of them I wish I'd never had any parents I wish I'd just been spat into the earth alone alone there's less there's less to lose I never want to be in love again I can't bear losing it all it's awful a fish I could probably cope with I could at this stage in my life now a fish or a child because I know I'd go first fine so I'd be like haha I'd give birth and I'd be like haha psych see you later yeah you're it and then I'd be like you're gonna have to deal with losing me now which would be nice
6:38Vogue Williams:I know but I was thinking that because I was like imagine I had another child so if I did that what age would I be and then I'm like oh my god I'd be on the way out pretty early in our life because like we're lucky my mum is well she was in her 70s I suppose
6:51Joanne McNally:Yeah but there's everything's different now society has and people live longer and people are having babies longer sorry later in life because women are prioritising their career and then women are having a lot of children out of wedlock because women aren't settling to just get married to someone because we have more financial independence it's a whole vibe It is Geriatric ovaries were cool
7:11Vogue Williams:Yeah I got my eggs checked the other day and she actually said to me she was like oh you've got young ovaries and yeah and I was double dropping again remember I was double drop the last time.
7:22Joanne McNally:Maybe you're right. Sorry, no. There's no maybe. So you've been, so medically tested, I've been proven correct medically. Twice. So I am right. Just to clarify.
7:33Vogue Williams:Yeah, thank you. But the thing about it is, the ovaries aren't old. So, and I think that that's to do with, if you, if you, I don't know if it's true, if there's a doctor listening, they're probably like, here they bloody go again. I think if you get your period later, would that not suggest that you would, do you know what I mean? Because remember I was hanging around for my period for so many years. oh it could be
7:51Joanne McNally:because you're like a slow start
7:54Vogue Williams:yeah
7:54Joanne McNally:so you get more out of it yeah that could be it maybe I don't know I don't know anyway anyway good luck on your journey thank you very much
8:06Joanne McNally:anything to add Jo? I look forward to being wildly irritated by your next pregnancy
8:14Vogue Williams:Joanne will hang up the next time she'll be like we'll be like let's kind of special moment Jo Joanne will be like fuck this
8:18Joanne McNally:I'm out I'll come back to the podcast when it's out I was doing I'm on the road as you know and I was doing a show in Bournemouth last night and there was three very attractive straight men in the front row and me and Garoud were desperately trying to figure out how, why what they were doing there and I think one of them fancied me Really?
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8:47Vogue Williams:statistically it's fairly likely
8:48Joanne McNally:I think I think I think one of them did and now after the show obviously does no longer there's no way that crush would stay obviously
8:59Vogue Williams:you frightened it out of him oh gee
9:02Joanne McNally:oh fuck she's intense yeah he's like oh that I thought that was all an act yeah I think I should if I see a hot man in the audience like that again I'm just going to do an air of spoken word I'm just I'm just going to try I'm just going to really try and rein it all in or ask him to leave and say you'll meet him after. Geroad said that he spent his first five minutes of a set dedicating it directly to them. Really?
9:25Vogue Williams:Yeah. And so do they just disappear after? I think you should, and if that happens again, now you know, just say, listen, you're going to actually have to leave. But if you wait at the side entrance, I'll be out five minutes after the show and you can pop in for a drink.
9:38Joanne McNally:Yeah. Or maybe I'll go into the crowd like one of those cruise singers and it's like sitting in their lap, you know.
9:42Vogue Williams:What's her name that everyone loves?
9:44Joanne McNally:Jane. Jane McDonald. Yeah. Cruising with Jane McDonald. Do you know that I was, I don't know if this will ever happen, but there was, I was offered a job on a sex cruise. I said yes.
9:58Vogue Williams:This can be my present.
9:59Joanne McNally:Oh great. Yeah, I said yes, but it's not till this summer, I think. But I don't know if, it never came back. These jobs, sometimes jobs come in and you never hear anything about them again. I was like, it would be an honour and a privilege. I was seeing a guy at the time when I was offered the job and he said, can I go? And I was like, I wouldn't see you from one end of the cruise to the next. you absolute feral dog no
10:18Vogue Williams:you can come Vogue because you'll probably be pregnant and if I'm not I might get myself pregnant on the ship
10:28Joanne McNally:yeah and then they'll be like right well we'll take the one that's not pregnant so I'm like thanks guys see you later Vogue
10:34Vogue Williams:as I head off I'll have you know there is pregnancy kinks thank you very much I'm not pregnant by the way it sounds like I'm pregnant no I know you're not pregnant I'm not pregnant
10:42Joanne McNally:there's pregnancy kinks yeah of course there is There's kinks for everything.
10:46Vogue Williams:I know, there really is. Oh my God, that would bring us so much joy. That would get weeks of content for us. You could just like, you could just drop some in every so often.
10:54Joanne McNally:I, do you know what? I'm actually going to go back now and I'm going to follow up on that and find out what's happening with that because I need that to happen. And you need to come with me. We need it to happen. Yeah.
11:05Vogue Williams:I'll come with you, but like I'm going to be the lurker in the, I'll be the wanker. Hold on, no. I'm the wanker. No, I'll be the wanker in the corner.
11:12Joanne McNally:You can't come. Why? Spencer won't let you go on a sex cruise Especially if you're pregnant The optics are not good Spenny will let me go
11:24Vogue Williams:On a sex cruise
11:27Joanne McNally:I think the Daily Mail Showbiz Department would literally explode
11:33Vogue Williams:I'm coming Spenny, are you mad? Spenny would definitely let me on the sex cruise He's worried that in later life I'm going to turn around And decide that I want to be worldly because I haven't been worldly enough in my life.
11:44Joanne McNally:Oh, okay. Yeah, that seems like a reasonable fear. What happens at sea? What happens on a sex cruise? It's on international waters. Do whatever you want.
11:56Vogue Williams:Nothing is legal out there.
11:58Joanne McNally:You're not even married anymore out there on international waters. There's no contracts. Nothing is legal out there. That's why when someone dies at sea, it's really complicated. Really complicated because everyone's like, it's not our problem. And then, yeah, the police have to be involved and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. so just if we just let's just not die because it would be just make everything very complicated
12:15Vogue Williams:for God's sake don't do that then I'll be stuck hanging around waiting for you you know I don't have the patience for that I'm not waiting
12:21Joanne McNally:but she's not dead she just passed out she'd be grand
12:24Vogue Williams:she's grand I'll wheel her off like your man she hasn't ridden in years she's fine
12:29Joanne McNally:she hasn't ridden anyone in years she's exhausted she's obviously taken a mile of town and had a ride half a bottle of white she'd be grand in three days just trying water over my face she's thrilled That's her happy face.
12:52Joanne McNally:By the way, I'm in Plymouth this week, this Thursday the 18th, which I haven't pushed at all because there was some issues with the venue and we didn't know if it was going to go ahead. So I am going to Plymouth and then Yeoval, my arch enemies. Can't wait to see you both. Tickets available. Blah, blah, blah.
13:11Vogue Williams:I love that you're just, Joanne's just going to keep going back to Yeo but she just will never ever stop. There'll be one person in the audience, I don't care. I don't care. You won't beat me.
13:19Joanne McNally:It's the one that got away. I'm like, I'll just keep going back.
13:26Vogue Williams:Hi girls, I'm hoping you can help me decide on how to approach telling my mum about my new boyfriend. I'm close to my mum and want to be honest with her. But she is quite judgmental and there are a couple of things I know she's going to judge me for if I tell her about him. and although I wish I didn't care I hate the thought of her talking to my sister and auntie about this like I know she has other aspects of my life before. Oh we all bitch about each other.
13:51Joanne McNally:Well it's chat. It's discussion really
13:53Vogue Williams:Yeah.
13:54Joanne McNally:It's discussion.
13:55Vogue Williams:Like if Amber tells, if Amber does something I'll ring my mum and tell her and tell my mum not to tell Amber
13:59Joanne McNally:Yeah it's human nature. Everyone's we inform each other of what's going on whether it be negative or positive
14:06Vogue Williams:Okay for context I broke up my ex recently We'd been together three and a half years, living together, have a dog, etc. The breakup was a long time coming and we are amicable and fully getting on with our individual lives now. When I got together with my now ex, I was not long out of another three year relationship and the same again before that. So I've been in back to back relationships. I'm very aware that this isn't the ideal situation, but it has just fallen that way. And even if I'm not looking for someone, I get swept off my feet.
14:35Joanne McNally:Jesus. I would say that used to well that kind of
14:38Vogue Williams:you know I do think it's good to be single for a while because I didn't do that for a very long time and it was only when I was like 30 that I actually did it each breakup I've had my mum always makes comments about how I should avoid meeting anyone for a while taking a break being alone I even remember her making comments like this from when I was a teenager I know she means well but it's so frustrating because I'm not in any way trying to meet someone it just happens organically I've never even been on apps anyway where the hell are you going out
15:08Joanne McNally:who is this woman
15:12Vogue Williams:okay then if I do tell her oh no anyway she doesn't know about my new man and every time I see her she keeps saying how proud she is of me for being alone I'm in a new era how it's what I'm ready for etc I feel really guilty not telling her but I just know she'll be disappointed with me we are becoming pretty serious now and I know there's only so long I can put it off for. Then if I do tell her I'm considering lying about his age so the gap doesn't seem as big. I've always been with older men but this is the biggest gap so far. My mum certainly has no problems with my ex being 10 years older than me but I also feel like he came across 10 years younger than he was.
15:50Vogue Williams:Ooh. Yeah. Well that's how that works. Oh God. Wait for this. I'm 27 and my new guy is 47. Okay. Your mum isn't, my mum wouldn't be happy with that. Your mum's not going to be happy with that. well
16:03Joanne McNally:I follow a couple on Insta with a significant age gap I don't know how I came across them and he's I mean like sorry now but it is the stereotypical situation he's older significantly older fucking loaded she's young and hot but they seem to be genuinely madly in love they really are I can tell do you know what I mean if something works it works who are we to decide
16:29Vogue Williams:is that the answer exactly no No, ultimately the age gap doesn't make any difference to us. We are totally content and happy with each other and how things are going. We want the same things. We've already been on holiday together. Jesus Christ, you're very good at relationships. And overall has no impact on a relationship. Unlike my ex, this guy does look his age. And I feel like it makes my parents a bit of a shock to see me with someone who clearly looks physically so much older than me. Oh, she's thinking of lying about the age and saying he's 40 instead. I don't think that's a... Well, that's a white lie.
17:03Joanne McNally:I have figured out why she's so good at getting into relationships. She's obviously like a hot 27-year-old. What 47-year-old is not going to try and hook up with a hot 27-year-old if he thinks he has a chance? If you're going for men who are 20 years older than you, like, you know. You know, like, of course. Like, she's a young, hot thing.
17:22Vogue Williams:I'd probably, to be honest with you, I'd probably go out with a six-year-old. Like, a decent one. Not an in-bits one. Like, Kevin Costner. Isn't he, like, 67? I'm still mad about him. he's a new girlfriend raging I don't know why
17:34Joanne McNally:I'm so upset about that she's probably if she's 27 going out to 47 year olds she's probably quite mature for her age yeah we all we all knew couples like that growing up we always had that one female friend who had that boyfriend who was significantly older than the rest of us than the rest of our boyfriends
17:51Vogue Williams:didn't we yeah well I used to have a boyfriend that was older than me but now Spenny's actually younger than me
17:58Joanne McNally:I think 10 was the 10 years older than me was the oldest was the biggest age gap I ever had.
18:04Vogue Williams:Yeah, I think I had eight. But no, I would go, it just depends. Like, obviously, your mom is going to be pissed off. She just will be. Like, you want your daughter. And the reason she wants you to be single is because she wants you to go out and live your life and have, like, fun and everything like that. But some people aren't, like, it's not like you're not having fun by being in a relationship. But I think people are built differently. Some people just enjoy being in relationships and that's just where they find themselves all the time.
18:28Joanne McNally:I think mothers as well, they're always they're always devil's advocate or something they're all like if she sees you going into relationship after relationship after relationship she's not you she doesn't know how you feel she doesn't know what you need she thinks she does but like she's not in your head she's not in your heart so she just wants you to experience life without a boyfriend but like I know girls I know girls who are married to the lads that we they met when we were 15, 16 and they're having a they're happy like they're having a ball
18:55Vogue Williams:do you know what I mean
18:56Joanne McNally:they've never had a period of single-ness but like they're fine it's not like you're yeah look I do think obviously I do think because I spend most of my time single but like I think it is really good to know how to be on your own I do think it's an important skill to have so that you don't settle for shit when it's bad because you're nervous about being on your own but that doesn't sound like this is what this woman is doing at all
19:19Vogue Williams:yeah no well I think there's just there's no point in hiding it from your mum it is what it is and the longer you lie the longer you get into it it's just gonna be a bit awkward and you've been on holidays with everyone and stuff I'd probably just bite the bullet and let her know
19:31Joanne McNally:you have to let her know she's your mum she's going to let her know it probably will be awkward she'll probably have a reaction you just have to power through us
19:38Vogue Williams:send them in to Debbie Thomas now before they meet and she'll she'll knock a few years off them Grant
19:43Joanne McNally:the laser lady yeah will Korea be an option? what was that plastic surgery thing tell them I meet them in South Korea
19:56Vogue Williams:what was the plastic surgery thing that you had Remember months ago we were talking about some weird plastic surgery place name?
20:03Joanne McNally:That I had.
20:05Vogue Williams:No, you didn't.
20:07Joanne McNally:Faceland in Amsterdam. Faceland! That was the one. Yeah, everyone's going over to get their blephs done. Their blephs. Ask him when he considered getting his blephs done before he meets your mother. No, but seriously, I think some people are just really good at being in relationships. They don't, it's not like they're, they're not running scared towards people. And like being in relationships, it's lovely. Like it's hard being single. The companionship of a relationship is lovely. yeah your mum's gonna ultimately like when it comes down to it it's your life
20:33Vogue Williams:yeah exactly
20:34Joanne McNally:you have to live for yourself she'll be fine she just wants you to be happy the olden days people lived for their parents not anymore no we're punks now she says about to ring her mum again hiya
20:47Vogue Williams:when are you coming over yeah
20:48Joanne McNally:what you doing I had a dream last night that Pat was on a mobility scooter and I was pushing her around and then her my phone beeped and her phone beeped at the same time and I realised that she was in my messages. And I was like, Pat, I said, how could you do that? And she's like, I'm sorry, I just wanted to know where you were. And I was like, but there's sexual stuff in there. There's sexual stuff. And she's like, I don't mind, I don't read everything. And I was like, then I woke up and I was like, Jesus Christ.
21:15Vogue Williams:Who's sexual have you been texting?
21:18Joanne McNally:Myself, my old Irish number, just to keep things alive.
21:20Vogue Williams:She does. She actually sends me the odd one. I'm like, Joanne, I told you, I don't want it anymore.
21:25Joanne McNally:I just need a release, Voga. I'm taking this beautiful nude and I have nowhere to send it. I'm like sending it. I was like, don't open that. Just don't bother opening it. I just need it. I'm like one of those lads, a flasher. Do you know, you just get the, you just, I just need to send it. Maybe just tell me what you're wearing. Yeah, you're right, actually. I'll just, I'll go, I'll go to script it.
21:50Vogue Williams:See you later, everyone. Thanks, William, for listening. And do keep sending your emails in to Joanne Hiddick.
21:55Joanne McNally:hello at mtgmpod.com oh yeah thanks a million guys I nailed that nailed us
22:04Vogue Williams:I know it hello at mtgmpod.com
22:25Amen.
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