In short
Joanne McNally, Vogue Williams, and Jo Ashiwell chat about chaotic travel and anxiety, a hotel “near-theft” mishap, Oasis wrap-party antics, and lighthearted commentary on journalism and celebrity culture. Topic: 5am wake-up trauma, the Leinster Hotel Dyson mix-up, Oasis afterparty gossips (including being kicked out), martini/wellness talk, party-planning rules, and reactions to Saoirse-Monica Jackson’s wedding and Soho Farmhouse luxury.
Key claims
Vogue left the laptop to fold clothes during an electrician/bulb debacle; Joanne accidentally took the Leinster Hotel Dyson, returned it, and says staff didn’t notice; Oasis afterparty was mostly people getting drunk with a free bar but no snacks; Joanne met Daily Mail journalist Grant Tucker after he wrote a fake “catfight” story; Kevin Federline’s memoir is coming.
Notable examples
5am taxi wake-up call; “melter” top; being sent out by a barman; Sherelle Kelleher’s audiobook about the Alan Hall murder case.
Guests
Joanne McNally, Vogue Williams, Jo Ashiwell.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLighthearted Home Troubles
0:45 to 2:20
Discussion about home issues, including electric work and lacking light bulbs.
“the podcast used to be recorded from my personal private home, there was an electrician booked to drill lights into all the walls.”
Travel Tales and Sleep Deprivation
2:20 to 4:00
Jo shares a tiring travel experience and being jolted awake early.
“you're not looking too brightly yourself.”
Filming at The Leinster Hotel
4:00 to 5:10
Jo and Vogue talk about filming in a luxurious hotel and its amenities.
“took off all my pajamas, packed the bag, picked up my phone.”
The Dyson Mix-Up
5:10 to 6:30
Jo recounts a humorous mix-up involving a Dyson hair tool from the hotel.
Oasis Afterparty Experience
6:30 to 8:45
Jo shares her experiences and humorous reflections on the Oasis afterparty.
“Yeah, I guess like as much as I do, I do, you know, I'm not going to play the pauper.”
Interactions with Celebrities
8:45 to 11:40
Jo discusses interactions and observations with celebrities at the afterparty.
“But I think it's like the last drink before you start saging in a wellness retreat.”
Late Night Revelations
11:40 to 14:00
The hosts discuss the late-night dynamics and Jo being the last one at the bar.
“No I was too shy That's the problem Did you say hello to Richard Ashcroft?”
Party Adventures and Friends
14:00 to 17:26
Learn about wild party stories, friends, and unexpected interactions.
Party Planning and Cake Drama
17:26 to 19:19
Discover the challenges of planning a party and the expectations of friends.
“But yes, you can have one you can have one as long as you understand that I'm skipping you.”
Concerns and Superstitions
19:19 to 22:18
Explore conversations about anxiety, superstitions, and the implications of a black cat.
“what's he looking for no I was onto him because I was like, I really need to step up now and get a nice present.”
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Wedding Inspirations and Personal Reflections
22:18 to 26:03
Reflect on weddings, personal aspirations, and feelings about marriage.
“I mean, I think, you know, the whole, like, no shade to anyone who has these enormous, massive weddings in these, like, gorgeous places.”
Luxury Experiences and Social Landscapes
26:03 to 28:01
Discuss experiences in luxurious venues and the unique social dynamics involved.
“Well, we went, do you remember we went there for your birthday years ago, Vogue?”
Post-Oasis Reflections
28:01 to 29:16
The hosts discuss their experiences after attending an Oasis event and the resulting feelings of anxiety.
“This guy walked in while we were like doing our cool down with cold towels to hand us all with like a dib dab holder thing that your mum uses to cook.”
The Joy of Comedic Journalism
29:17 to 30:56
A humorous take on a ridiculous tabloid story featuring the hosts and some famous personalities.
“If I get woken up like that, it can ruin my whole day of anxiety because I get such a fright.”
Meeting the Journalist
30:57 to 32:46
An unexpected encounter with the journalist behind a funny tabloid story leads to a conversation about lighthearted journalism.
“you can only imagine what Vogue thinks about Molly May parking her tanks on Vogue's lawn, said one associate.”
The Exposé on Oasis Afterparty
32:47 to 33:55
A playful discussion about a journalist's potential exposé of the hosts' interactions at a party.
“We all know that you and Molly May are not going to go jousting over fucking fairy capsules.”
Reflections on Kevin Federline's Memoir
33:56 to 37:56
The hosts share their thoughts on Kevin Federline's upcoming memoir and its implications.
“In Buckland and Brittanyland, which is a land that I like to spend a lot of time in.”
Book Recommendation: A Harrowing True Story
37:57 to 39:04
A powerful recommendation of a book about a tragic family story that puts life into perspective.
“And sometimes the culture pocket can, you know, take a sad turn.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:15Joanne McNally:Hello, welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with myself Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams and Jo Ashiwell.
0:25Hello. Hello.
0:29Vogue Williams:Here we are. Listeners, you are lucky. You don't have to deal with what we have to deal with. There's goes a ladder outside you want. This is fantastic. There was a little double booking.
0:44Joanne McNally:Around the time the podcast used to be recorded from my personal private home, there was an electrician booked to drill lights into all the walls. But look! Thanks, Ali. He's just left.
0:55Vogue Williams:The house is lit. Lit to the tit. Well it's actually not lit Because Joanne didn't know she had to buy light bulbs So that was the second part Well no, no one tells
1:05Joanne McNally:How many times There's a potential There's a potential There's a potential to be lit When it gets dark Vogue And as it happens it's still daytime so Ha ha Okay, off you go to Tesco to get your bulbs And you won't know which ones to get Because I know you Well actually Vogue I'm I'm I'm going down a hipster road So I'm just going to work By candlelight from now on Oh Sustainable Joanne's back I love this Yes Yeah I'm getting a cow into the flack And I'm going to milk it For my oat milk I'm doing it all myself From now on
1:39Vogue Williams:Yeah well cows don't produce oat milk But I
1:41Joanne McNally:Okay What would you know Vogue You've never even met a cow
1:45Vogue Williams:I Excuse me I have eaten a lot of cows I'd say by this stage I've eaten an entire cow That's not meeting them I met them in my mouth
1:54Joanne McNally:That's not meeting them that's eating them. I didn't meet him, I eat him. I don't meet him. And Vogue, you're not in great form yourself, were I to bat it back?
2:07Joanne McNally:While we were going through the horror of my electrics, Vogue said she, and I quote, can't cope with this shit and left the laptop to go and fold clothes. Is that right? And Jo, while I'm at it, Jo, you're not looking too brightly yourself. A bit moody. A little short with me about the camera, if I'm honest.
2:27Vogue Williams:I've got the biggest ulcer that humankind has ever known on the inside of my lip, and it makes me want to kill everyone. Yeah. It's just one of those days. We're all coming on. We're coming on, Jo. Will I tell you what happened to me? Why my day? So basically, I have been in, I went from Dublin to London to Nottingham to Edinburgh to Dublin in about probably 32 hours. So I was really tired and looking so much.
2:51Joanne McNally:That's why I have to make my own milk because I'm trying to counteract the damage you're doing to the environment. That's why I've no bugs. Sorry, choo-choo. I've got to train twice.
3:02Vogue Williams:Did you get a choo-choo? I got a choo-choo.
3:05Joanne McNally:Did you get a choo-choo from London to Edinburgh? It's stunning. It's great. Scenery is really lovely. Did you get a choo-choo to the airport, Fowke? Is that what you're saying? I walked to the airport. Did you get a choo-choo? I wanted to catch the views. Oh, I understand. Did you get a choo-choo to the private jet?
3:20Vogue Williams:I would have had time to walk to the airport. I wish I was on one of those Aer Lingus planes The little tiny ones So that like Because I'll tell you what happened I'm a person who gets anxious sometimes And when I don't get sleep It makes it worse And so last night I was like brilliant I'm in bed I'm going to get eight hours And I was jolted out of my sleep At 5am Jolted? Jolted Excuse me Jolted Wow
3:46Joanne McNally:Love it Yeah Love jolted
3:48Vogue Williams:No I did not love it actually A deep sleep with the person on the phone saying, your taxi's been sitting here 20 minutes. You're late. You're late. And I was like, got up, took off all my clothes, very unlike me, took off all my pajamas, packed the bag, picked up my phone. 5am. I was like, why in God's name is that man ringing me at 5am? He had rung the wrong room. Yeah.
4:17Vogue Williams:Five and a half hours sleep instead of seven and a half. Oh my God.
4:20Joanne McNally:What I love about this is you're so well behaved that you got up.
4:24Vogue Williams:Oh, I ran. I legged it around the room. I was like, how could I do this? I don't know what happened. Anyway, I got someone else's wake up call. They probably missed their flight. I didn't get back to sleep. And I felt like crying all day long.
4:35Joanne McNally:That is, I genuinely feel for you. That's terrible. But speaking of, and I know you've been around the world in, well, three days. Speaking of dodgy hotel encounters, I Myself and Vogue Were filming some content In The Leinster Hotel in Dublin Five stars I saw that
4:52Vogue Williams:You've taken it under your wing I was there twice last week Filming Certainly have
4:57Joanne McNally:I think I don't know Is it a five star hotel I think it is I'm just saying five stars Where is it as a five star hotel It's glam It's glam as fuck Best martini I've ever had And I don't say that lightly And may I say I've had loads of martinis But it's best martini
5:10Vogue Williams:I just keep walking around And I'm like I wonder how much they spent On this place How much Look at the wallpaper It's stunning How much did they spend I'm obsessed with how much this went to that place
5:18Joanne McNally:stunning gorgeous gym as well the whole thing is like tick tick tick but anyway so myself and Vogue were using one of the rooms to do our bits and bobs put our makeup on get changed because we were filming content around the hotel and when I was leaving I had my big shark hair tool that I use and there was also a Dyson hair tool in the bedroom and Vogue left early because she was going to Oasis and so I kind of stayed and made sure everything was okay because that's what I do because sometimes I am the boss and Vogue went off with their navel showing off to have a great day out with their friends and I was responsible and I stayed and I packed it up and I said folks I have to forget her Dyson and I packed it all up and I brought everything back to my mum's house where I was staying and then I was going back into the town a couple of days later and I was like so weird the folk hasn't asked me about her Dyson because she'd usually be very like on top of things like that and as I was taxiing down the road into town with my taxiing or patsying no taxiing taxiing
6:17Joanne McNally:I can only patsy twice a week she's too old to patsy any more than that she gets tired she's like I can't be driving you around this is getting ridiculous Mum I have a gig in Donegal I'm like Mum did you get that booking I just sent you there as I burst into her bedroom don't bother sending the paling forget about it I'll get you again I realised I was like it dawned on me I was like oh god did I and Vogue said Vogue I have your Dyson Vogue said Vogue said that's not my Dyson Joanne yeah that's the hotel so basically I lifted the Dyson out of the Leinster but you know what I really respect about the Leinster they didn't say anything they didn't say anything now I guess I think they I think they said something to Vogue and I think they would have eventually cracked and polite I mean it would have been the worst crime in history because we very publicly used that room like it was kind of It was like content Do you know what I mean So it's not like I slipped in Called like Mrs Smith And like rinsed the room I was very Notably in that room As far as they were concerned But they never There was no guard Involvement There was no attack It was all very sound
7:29Vogue Williams:It was like How many Dysons get robbed From there though Because I mean It's such a special Piece of equipment I mean That you would be tempted They have that in Eden Rock as well And I said that I said it to Svenny's mum I was like How many people rob And she was like, nobody, nobody robs at Easton Rock Dyson's.
7:46Joanne McNally:Yeah, I guess like as much as I do, I do, you know, I'm not going to play the pauper. Like I do stay in some nice places nowadays, but I am still a things screwed to the wall girl at heart, I think. So like if it's not screwed to the wall. Well, like I say, and I know it's something you would have. And I just assumed you had left it there and that I was being sound and supportive of you.
8:09Vogue Williams:Thank God I didn't steal the wallpaper Because I was considering it It was so beautiful But they really would have Copped onto a seat
8:15Joanne McNally:You're like Did you want to leave That automatic toilet there? Because the toilet The seat pops up and down It's mental Every time you walk in It's like zip
8:23Vogue Williams:So you're actually missing A couple of the taps From the room Sorry? What are you suggesting here? No I don't have a swan tap In my room I didn't touch it
8:34Joanne McNally:All my new light bulbs Are straight out of the Lancaster Sorry I assumed Vogue left them here
8:38Vogue Williams:I'm sorry but anyway
8:41Joanne McNally:so apologies to the Leinster but I did return the Dyson and all's well that ends well basically but I do wonder I wouldn't let her back
8:49Vogue Williams:if I was you guys she's got to ride a few bits
8:51Joanne McNally:Best Martini in Dublin crispy olives stunning mwah genuinely
8:56Vogue Williams:one of the most revolting drinks that has ever passed my list and I know I don't like I don't like alcohol but that drink is really taking the piss it's like someone poured lighter fluid into a glass and fucked an olive in on top of it. It's absolutely disgusting.
9:12Joanne McNally:It is. It is disgusting. But I think it's like the last drink before you start saging in a wellness retreat. So that's kind of where I am. I've kind of, I've hit the hard liquor. I'd say about a year left before I'm kind of, you know, making wicker baskets down in Wicklow. But like, whatever. For the moment, I'm very much a martini girl.
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9:29Vogue Williams:You said that three years ago, but yes. Did I? I can see that in your future. I can see, well, actually, it's a wicker coffin. Oh, grand. That's the first time you'll see Wicker in your life. Oh, thought about that. I'm going to make my own coffin,
9:41Joanne McNally:of course, yeah, because we're all trying to make up for your private chat.
9:51Vogue Williams:Gigi and I went and got her nails done for the first time, so I've never taken her to get her nails done. She had such a great time and then it was all ruined at the very end because she walked into a table and whacked her face off the table. Oh, God love her. So she went in smiling, walked out crying. I was like, oh no, It's always the way Joan I was sent a video On Instagram Of you walking into A Donahue's pub For the Oasis after party Would you like to tell me about that
10:18Joanne McNally:I will elaborate Now obviously I'm on the inner circle now So much like Fight Club It's not There's not a lot I can say
10:25Vogue Williams:In order for this Podcast to ever exist in future We sort of needed that video To be AI I was really hoping It was AI Because
10:34Joanne McNally:No it doesn't care
10:36Vogue Williams:I don't really care I told you She's had enough
10:38Joanne McNally:She wouldn't even stay up that late She'd be like
10:41Vogue Williams:This is shit Do you know what I did I'm disgusted I came home after Oasis I was home at half eleven Sitting in my gaff Megan came home My friend And we're sitting there Having a drink And didn't we leave my house We left the comfort of my home Walked to my friend's house Five minutes later And I didn't get home Until three in the morning Worst mistake of my life You got sucked in Sucked Well I got sucked out Of the gaff actually I was comfortably Sitting downstairs With a nice drink And I was like Go on sure It's only a five minute walk I'll go Sure why not So tell me Tell me Did you see him Thank you Did he smell nice What was he wearing
11:18Joanne McNally:So anyway That's what happened Got into the Got the nod To go into this After party And I was like Oh my god And then do you know What happened I'd love to have Because people are Messing on What's the goss What's the goss I'd love to tell you I was into poppers With Richard Ashcroft on the shoulders of Noel Gallagher but I wasn't sorry hang on
11:37Vogue Williams:Jo say that again just can you not just tell us that can you not just make something sorry okay we could just run that again yeah okay tell us what we want to hear
11:45Joanne McNally:I did K out of the arse crack of Richard Ashcroft I knew it and I dry rode Noel Gallagher for so long there's a hole in the crotch in my tights oh my god sorry sorry I forgot that you can make shit up I actually forgot yeah yeah yeah yeah and I've sold my story to the Sunday world
12:04Vogue Williams:Fantastic Eugene Masterson's going to write a big piece on you is he? I believe so yeah huge piece
12:10Joanne McNally:but it was do you know what's gas when you go into these things do you know this kind of like this exclusivity the mystique of it all and then you get in there and it's just people getting pissed like there's no nothing happens
12:18Vogue Williams:Did you say hello to him? Did you do anything? Come on Did you do anything? Did he agree?
12:22Joanne McNally:No I was too shy
12:23Vogue Williams:That's the problem Did you say hello to Richard Ashcroft?
12:25Joanne McNally:No I was too shy Yeah You just don't want to be that sad I don't want to say anything and I was laughing to focus I did feel because I'm Irish and like polite I did feel like because it was a free bar and it was like it was like you know it was like a little party and I was like I'd love to go up to Nona and just say I don't mean to be walking around here like just kind of drinking a drink I'd love to say thanks for the free booze and I was like Joanne I don't think Nona's paying for the drinks I think I think MCD are paying for the drinks MCD yeah and I was like oh my god I didn't even think imagine I going up and like Nona listen just to extend my big thanks for the 28 margaritas but I'll tell you this do you know who was the last person to leave out on his?
13:06Joanne McNally:Who? Your good pal Joanne No Shut up When I tell you Tell us what time
13:12Vogue Williams:what time
13:13Joanne McNally:what time Well it was still dark but there was birds chirping Richard was gone I call him Richard Noel was gone Bonehead was gone all the band were gone Where was Liam? Was Liam not there? Liam didn't go he's saving his voice apparently
13:27Vogue Williams:apparently he's trying to be good They are friends I've insider gossiped they actually are friends.
13:32Joanne McNally:I was sat down, everyone was kind of gone and I realised I was sat with a family of four, a mother and her three children. I don't know how they got in, I don't know how I got in. Anyway, we're having such a lovely time. Her daughter went to Loretta Dawkey, we were talking about all the old English teachers. It was very un-rock and roll. And then we went up to get one last drink off the barman in O'Donoghue's and I realised there was no one in O'Donoghue's, only me and this family. And I said to the barman in O'Donoghue's, do you want us to go? And his eyes were like bleeding. He went, yes please.
13:59Joanne McNally:So there must be I guess I'm real He was like I can't ask them to leave You're a rock star You were kicked out I'd say Richard was clearly at home With his eye mask And his earplugs in Resting And I was still fucking drinking the bar I'd say Nell was like That absolute sea urchin Anyway It's your own fault For offering you a free bar They were so nice They were so nice And they were like No no no And I said When would you like us to leave And here mum went An hour ago And I went Say no more Yeah say no more and I grabbed up my family who I will never see again I said family we're out now and we all left oh my god and we stood in the streets and yeah and then we went to the canal
14:41Vogue Williams:that's the great thing about Joanne you could bring her to any party and just ditch her she didn't go to that party on her own and she's happy to be ditched she'll just find new friends I'll always find a new friend
14:50Joanne McNally:I'll always find someone to chat to whether they want to or not Roisin Conady was there I had a great chat with her Laura Whitmore was there had a great chat with her like I did I did do a bit of hobnobbing do you know what I mean I wasn't like crying in the corner I did I did do a bit of hobnobbing but I was wearing there's this Irish designer called Pure
15:07Vogue Williams:I love that top it's cool isn't it yes send me the link I need that top I love that top
15:12Joanne McNally:yeah yeah yeah I'll tell her I'll tell her the brand is called Pure Melter and the top says Melter on it and of course when there was the photos of me going into the party these you know the lads are like what the fuck is she doing there you know these Oasis fans oh stop oh no Imagine I'd shown up
15:28Vogue Williams:I would have been egged I think I'm as fat No No We're at different levels
15:35Joanne McNally:We're definitely at different levels It was like they'd seen their wife Getting fingered by a ferret They were horrified They were like What is she doing there She didn't fucking know You know all this shit But Someone Because I was wearing melcher across the top Someone was like Yeah What she says in the top Yeah that's apt I was like yeah that's the joke You fucking pleb Do you know what I mean I'm leaning in to be a melcher Anyway I was like Shut up Darren But anyway there you go So no goss at all Sorry I had nothing else to bring
16:00Vogue Williams:But we had a great night You should have just gone Why couldn't you Oh sorry Why couldn't you sit on Sipside Null for us
16:05Joanne McNally:I just I don't like to bother people folk When I see you out I don't even say hi to you I'm like leave her off
16:11Vogue Williams:Yeah Yeah that's true
16:12Joanne McNally:Do you know when I come up To thank you for the free bar And you're like What are you talking about I haven't paid for any of this And I'm like I'm so sorry Bye You're like this is global Yeah Oh yeah thanks
16:20Vogue Williams:Thanks for my margarita The other day by the I didn't say thank you For that how rude
16:26Joanne McNally:onwards and upwards. I'd like to say we and the Gallaghers, Gallagher is our best mates, but we had no interaction at all. However,
16:34Vogue Williams:you know, never say never. Well, we go to Wembley and then you can get your friend to get us in. I actually don't want to get in.
16:40Joanne McNally:I can't. I can't. I've got my own tour now. Which, by the way, I would like to extend the offer back to the Gallaghers if they fancy dropping into Peanophile. You know, they're more than Malcolm.
16:54Vogue Williams:Do you know what my only thing about Oasis was? I think that you have to do there's a few things like if I was going to their gig again I'd take my own toilet paper because I don't want to I don't you don't want to be drip drying I ran out of toilet paper and at Crow Park we're very good I only ran out of toilet paper for a little minute and then I'd probably strap vodka to the top of my leg because the bar queue was very long it was 45 minutes in the queue and I just well I didn't queue I made Amber queue but yeah it was a lot wasn't it
17:21Joanne McNally:there was a woman who was very ratty with me in the queue she had a couple she had a couple of drinks she had a couple of drinks on board and the queue to the bar was a little chaotic so there was you know these kind of like there's you're like is there four queues is there three feeding into two what's happening but I was fairly sober at this stage and she thought that I was she thought I was kind of stealing her place and she was I know yeah she was very very ratty and then she kind of her eyes kind of focused in and then she recognised maybe from the pod and then she wanted a photo and I was like, it's a bit fucking rich considering you were threatening to glass me about seven minutes ago but anyway.
18:04Vogue Williams:But yes, you can have one you can have one as long as you understand that
18:07Joanne McNally:I'm skipping you. And I did it like a loser. I fucking did it as well.
18:13Vogue Williams:Ah, you have to, you have to. Well I am in full party mode. My party's happening on Saturday. Have you noticed my new face? I went into Katrina on Sunday. That's how dedicated I am. Didn't recognise him. Hung over into Katrina On Sunday Who smells amazing And she was off to Oasis And also loves scuba sunglasses By the way Katrina is a dermatologist in Dublin If anyone ever wants to go to one She's brilliant And I Yeah I'm getting all the party prep I think that's what's contributing To the anxiety To be honest with you There seems to be a lot to do I've bitten off more than I can chew
18:45Joanne McNally:I was on to your husband today
18:46Vogue Williams:Do you know what he offered? He went Because I said Now you haven't really done anything To help with the party Now I hadn't asked in fairness And then he's like after I got a surprise and I was like what is it because I probably have it because I've been organising this party and she's like I got you a cake I was like no Sven my cake arrives on Friday and he's like you can't organise your own cake that's pathetic I was like what do you think I've been doing for the last 8 years we've known each other no one's ever gotten me a cake
19:11Joanne McNally:so yeah you're like that girl online who buys her own cupcakes except she was yeah but I actually do yeah what was he onto you about what's he looking for no I was onto him because I was like, I really need to step up now and get a nice present.
19:28Vogue Williams:Oh, wow. Thank you.
19:30Joanne McNally:Yeah, I was like, okay, now, come on, let's not let this slide. Let's not...
19:35Vogue Williams:Well, because your presence isn't my present. Exactly. I have no physical presence,
19:40Joanne McNally:so I have to get a tangible... Sorry, yeah, I'm not going to be there. And I don't want to leave it go as long as I usually do with presents. So I've been giving it some serious thought. and I now know after much consideration and your husband being completely useless I know what I'm going to get you Oh Yeah Are you going to tell us or no? No No but it's actually quite sweet if I do say so if I manage to pull it off
20:05Vogue Williams:Oh Yeah Well I'm excited for that It's quite cute Is it an animal? I don't want any more animals please God no Okay thank God because my kids are asking for chicks now I'm like listen I'd love a chick but I've nowhere to put the chick we're not getting a chick No no no no It's an adult presence everywhere? Okay, good.
20:21Joanne McNally:This is like when my, do you remember when my mother got my two nephews metal detectors and then hid coins all around the sitting room on Christmas Day? The sitting room that we were sitting in. That's a really good idea. It's a really good idea but not in the all day in the room that we're in. I think that's such a good, you should have thrown some out in the garden. We did then, we threw them and coins out in the garden. Threw them all out. We're like, get on with it out there please. But yeah. But no, I'm actually really sorry I'm missing the party. I've had a lot of people text me I'm telling you I hope you have insurance I hope you have insurance people haven't spent in years they're texting you going are you going to the massive session out in house and I'm like oh god
21:01Vogue Williams:I better tell the neighbours now but there is rules I'm stopping all the music and everything by 10 as you know so there's rules I'm sticking with the rules I'm not Joanne I'm throwing a party from 2 till 10 come on I'm a matinee girl
21:12Joanne McNally:leave me alone that is hilarious there's children's parties that go on later than that
21:17Vogue Williams:are you giving out party bags at the end I didn't say I was going to be done by 10 o 'clock I said the party's over at 10 o 'clock So what I'm doing is I've booked the pub down the road So I can literally walk people out And be like And I feel like A good 8 hour stint I was considering stopping it at 8 And I said you know what No I'll be sent I'll stop at 10 A good 8 hour stint of a party Is enough I've got like Listen That's the way it's going to be I don't know who is going to arrive in the day Because I've just invited too many people The worst part is I don't know who I've forgotten so that's that's going to be even worse well say it here now if you feel you should have been invited and you weren't feel free to turn up that message is out there you did say that a couple of weeks ago no don't feel free to turn up no fire festival if you're a friend of mine if you're a friend of mine shoot me a text and if I answer then of course you can come if I don't then you can't
22:16Vogue Williams:a black cat just walked in front of me there in my house and now I'm like obviously because I'm an anxious wreck I'm convinced now that something terrible is going to happen to me and I shouldn't go for a run because I might fall off the cliff
22:29Joanne McNally:can we please take a moment for Saoirse Monica Jackson I have never wanted to get married except for that well I have actually a lot of times but the lads weren't that into it but not recently have I had any interest in getting married and I did think if I was to ever get married I would just elope to Vegas do a full Lily Allen and just like ring it in like in a chapel kind of thing and then I saw the wedding of Saoirse Monica Jackson and her uh well husband now DJ Hector Barber known professionally as Dennis Sulta and I Jo did you see this oh my god it was epic it's very Joanne
23:06Vogue Williams:now I did have to double take for a second I was like has Joanne gotten married and not told me about it because you two in my opinion are pretty much the exact same person I could I was like will I tell her or does she know she has to know it's not one of those ones that you look at and you're like no I don't look like her no I see it you are a spitting image of her
23:26Joanne McNally:so we get told it a good bit and then when I was in New York doing shows she was in a play in New York and we hung out and we just do you know when you've like had a couple of drinks and you're just kind of like marvelling at how alike you look but you probably don't look that alike but anyway so we just we got a bit of a buzz out but we are she could be my little sister for sure 100 % and she's so sound and so cool and so sweet and the dress and the heels it was I knew you'd love the heels it's the the term iconic is overused it was fucking iconic unreal I haven't seen a wedding like that in so long it was just cool I was like she has rebranded marriage to me as something deadly.
24:06Yeah.
24:06Vogue Williams:I mean, I think, you know, the whole, like, no shade to anyone who has these enormous, massive weddings in these, like, gorgeous places. But I think there's really cool ways to do weddings. I think if I ever got married again, which it would be to Spencer, and we're eight years married, so we're like, if we get married, if we do it again, because we didn't have, like, the proper big wedding. I know we did the TV wedding, but that wasn't a real wedding. Like, I'd love to do something cool like she did. Like, just something really chillaxed where people are having fun and like that's kind of, not to bring my birthday back into it, I just want to have a really fun time.
24:40Vogue Williams:I don't want to be like overproduced. Hers didn't feel overproduced. She looked cool. She looked like herself. I just. But the dress and the veil,
24:47Joanne McNally:it was quite over the top. Like it did, like it did feel very produced as in it was a big event. Like the fashion and the styling was, well, she was in Vogue.
24:57Vogue Williams:She was in British Vogue. Yeah, I know, but I just feel like that that's kind of her vibe anyway. I think that like having a really cool like she was obviously really comfortable in what she wore I just it felt like they all just got pissed and had such a laugh
25:11Joanne McNally:Yeah but the styling was next level it was epic it really really was and I I don't know I was like there was something kind of 90s about it or something there was something kind of punk about it and he was in his kilt and there was women there in kilts and I just thought the whole thing was savage and I just wish we'd made more of a connection in New York so I would have been invited It's a wedding I would have loved to have gone to it really lifted me I was down I was actually doing a show down in Soho Farmhouse which by the way and we're having a very bougie conversation because it's all very luxurious venues we're talking about but we're working in them ultimately Soho Farmhouse was when the photos of her wedding came through and they were described as like this kind of Celtic epic wedding and it was just phenomenal but I was down in Soho Farmhouse doing a gig and Soho Farmhouse Jo have you ever been to Soho Farmhouse?
25:56Vogue Williams:I've never had the pleasure but I understand from the news this week that it's worth two billion pounds. What? Well, the Soho group. The Soho group. I don't know. I don't know how true that is.
26:07Joanne McNally:Well, we went, do you remember we went there for your birthday years ago, Vogue?
26:11Vogue Williams:Was that for my birthday?
26:12Joanne McNally:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was your birthday. And we were paddling around.
26:16Vogue Williams:Yeah, we should have a team day. It is a really fun spot.
26:21Joanne McNally:It's fucking pricey now. It's pricey. I had this idea of, do you know the way I get a notion about I'm going to go on a writer's retreat? Except I don't want to go to an actual writer's retreat, so I just want to go somewhere where I can just live my own rules. And I was like, oh, do you know what I'll do? A book to see if I can go to South Farmers for a couple of days. And I priced it and I was like, I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was trying to buy the Cotswolds. What?
26:43Vogue Williams:Well, I was going to go for my birthday this year with the kids. I was like, I'll pop down on the day of my birthday, be lovely. And then I was like, there's no popping down. You're not popping in there. No, I'm not going to pop in there, but it is very beauty. It's very nice. But what I will say is when you go down, like you're kind of like, It is a bit of a party place. My cousin had his birthday there, but also there's a lot of people from London and sometimes when I get out of London, I don't want to see lots of people in London.
27:08Joanne McNally:It's bougie, it's high end. The last time we were there for your birthday, Paul Meskel was there and I was like... Oh yeah, he was there. But so this time anyway, because I was a bit like, fucking, you know, you're like, rip. Like, no, and like, listen, hands up, I am a member of the Zouhou group, which I probably won't be after this podcast. I think they're quite cutthroat, but... And you can't take photos. it's like everyone's on the run it's like a fugitive camp everyone's just highly anonymous and all that shit and you can't even take your phone out and so they're like ouch you're like sorry where can I use my laptop they're like over there in the bin you're like okay sorry sorry but anyway I was like it's an absolute rip blah blah blah but then as part of the gig that I was doing they gave me a complimentary night there and then the next day I was like okay yeah it's kind of it's kind of worth it I did a peloton I did one of the spinning classes and when the class ended I was like this is jokes.
28:01Joanne McNally:This guy walked in while we were like doing our cool down with cold towels to hand us all with like a dib dab holder thing that your mum uses to cook.
28:13Vogue Williams:Well I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. Well done. I had a great stay in a hotel last night as well that was equally as bougie but I got forced out of bed at 5am and I've been devastatingly anxious ever since I'm three beta blockers down for the day. I will say folk I think beta blockers really sue you you know I said I like you like this I was like so you actually you're really nice to me today he's like what do you mean I was like just anything I say that's weird you just have to let it slide let it slide because I'll start saying I'll start thinking of what I'm really anxious I'll start thinking of mad stuff and I'm like I'm like we need to do this and we need to do that look at this this is like that and that's like this and I'm looking out the window I'm like that needs to go there and like I can't I actually can't stop I can't wait till it's bedtime and I close my eyes and I fall asleep.
28:56Joanne McNally:Well, I...
28:57Vogue Williams:Tomorrow will be better.
28:58Joanne McNally:Yeah, of course. And you're not like this very often. And it was a big Oasis. It was Oasis for an Ireland. It was so... The camaraderie of Oasis being in Dublin. It was like the whole country. It was like a huge chunk of the country was going to the Debs together. Everyone's like, what are you wearing? What are you wearing?
29:11Vogue Williams:It wasn't Oasis. That was on Saturday. It's Wednesday today. I'm over that. It was the shock of being woken. If I get woken up like that, it can ruin my whole day of anxiety because I get such a fright. and I'm like it sets me off on that that's the foot I'm on for the rest of the day rush rush rush rush rush
29:31Joanne McNally:guess where I'm going now where? Evita
29:34Vogue Williams:oh I know who are you going with I invited Vogue and she couldn't come yeah you know how sometimes people write stories about me in the paper and I see them I love them and there was one story and I thought it was the funniest thing I probably like I laughed and I laughed and like Louisa sent it to me who's my manager and like the whole office was laughing about it all the quotes and everything were made it was one of the greatest pieces of journalism I've ever read I laughed so much about it so it was here's the headline Bitchy cat fight brewing between Molly May Vogue Williams and Danny Dyer exposed as insiders tell Grant Tucker it feels like blatant copying and they must think we're stupid so the story was who on earth is Grant Tucker I absolutely love Grant Tucker Who is he?
30:27Vogue Williams:She, day, him She, he, she, he He's a journalist and he works for the Daily Mail And he wrote this story So basically the story was about That Molly Mae Haig, myself And Danny Dyer had fallen out Because we're all working for different laundry detergents Obviously Ferry is the best So I didn't fall out with anyone But anyway I hadn't even heard about this catfight But I read this story And some of the quotes in it Were just so brilliant that I thought this man deserves some kind of journalism award. So one of the quotes was, you can only imagine what Vogue thinks about Molly May parking her tanks on Vogue's lawn, said one associate.
31:06Joanne McNally:She got a tank. I thought she drove a Fiat 500. You don't have a lawn. Yeah, you don't even have a lawn. I do in Ireland. This is awful journalism. You don't even have a lawn. It's a gravel drive. Everyone knows that.
31:22Vogue Williams:there was so much about this story that I just loved it was like I was annoyed I'm basically annoyed because I've been doing it for years and Molly May could at least try to be original so it's all this all this point but anyway so I went to this TV dinner right and I got a list off my PR about who was going to the TV dinner because like I wanted to know whose faces were there and who I'd who I'd be chatting with who I'd sit beside yeah you're hobnob
31:49Joanne McNally:and you need to know who you're going to hobnob with. You need the face of the hobnob. So I got the list.
31:54Vogue Williams:Who was on the list but Grant Tucker? And I was like, I was so excited. It was like, pretty much like I was meeting Liam Gallagher at one point. I was so excited to see him. I was like, he better show up now. And I pulled up late because our train got into Edinburgh late and I pulled up late to the venue and he's only standing outside. The first man that I saw. So you know his face. You've seen him. Yeah, because I got like a cheat sheet of people. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then so I got out of the car and I saw him turn around and talk to his friend and I was like, Grant Tucker.
32:31Vogue Williams:And I went over and he was just like, oh my God, I've just told my friend, I wrote a story about you yesterday and now you're here. And I was like, I saw the story. It was one of the best pieces of journalism I've ever seen. So well done. Fair play.
32:43Joanne McNally:Yeah, because that's fun because it's like, we all know it's not real. Do you know what I mean? We all know that you and Molly May are not going to go jousting over fucking fairy capsules. Do you know what I mean? It's like a bit of crack, that to me. That's fun journalism. No?
32:57Vogue Williams:Yeah, that's all. Do you know what? Because when you read some of the other shit and it's really nasty and it's mean and it's like, it's really, some of the stuff that you read and it attacks your family and stuff, I was like, thank God for a bit of lightness in the dark. And I was like, if there's any chance you can keep writing stuff like that. And then he says to me, he was like, I was out with Joanne last year after the Fringe and I was like, where are you? What? Yeah, you're friends with him. You've done an interview with him.
33:23Joanne McNally:Why didn't you tell me that at the start of this section? And then I could have looked at my cheat sheet and been like, oh indeed, my good friend Grant Tucker.
33:33Vogue Williams:Grant, I think you should write a filthy story about Joanne at the end of the paper.
33:38Joanne McNally:I'm just clean as a whistle. They can't even make shit up.
33:42Vogue Williams:I said, Grant, put her at the front of the paper and say, Joanne's gone too big for her boots. I spent a long luxurious night with her Is this because I got into the Oasis wrap party
33:51Joanne McNally:I can feel this There's a tension rising here I didn't touch Richard Ashcroft I told you about There's nothing to be jealous of Let me see Look at Grant Tucker I know him
34:01Vogue Williams:I think we hung out You did hang out You hung out in Edinburgh He said he paid you a fortune For a load of stories on me Not enough
34:12Joanne McNally:Not enough I can tell you
34:13Vogue Williams:I didn't know you were fraternising with journalist Joanne McNally after a few drinks and everything what the hell
34:20Joanne McNally:wait till you see the expose on the Oasis rap party I can tell you I'll be I'll be I'll be swimming around on my yacht what Joanne's just looking around poles with a notepad
34:33Vogue Williams:what did he say there okay they're like
34:35Joanne McNally:it's a free bar but that little leech over there she's paying for everything she's paying for snacks
34:50Vogue Williams:Was there snacks? No. You have to tell us every detail. There's no snacks. No. Any crisps? Could you get crisps with the bar? Were they included? No crisps. A packet of scampi fries? No! Nada.
35:08Joanne McNally:Big news. In Buckland and Brittanyland, which is a land that I like to spend a lot of time in.
35:14Vogue Williams:Big Mouth is still out you are right thank you for bringing that up well I mean
35:19Joanne McNally:we know about Big Mouth
35:20Vogue Williams:it will continue to exist
35:23Joanne McNally:it will continue to exist that's immortal now it's in the ether okay great and what's your book news? Kevin Federline is bringing out a memoir called You Thought You Knew Kevin Federline dancer, father accidental pop culture icon I mean I think that's a fucking stretch his star rose electrifying stages again a bit of a stretch alongside Pink Destiny's Child Aliyah Aliyah and more but it was his turbulent marriage to pop superstar Britney Spears that made up a household name and triggered a relentless media storm reducing him to blah blah blah blah blah so anyway the book's on the way out and I as much as I love a memoir I do have a moral backbone
36:08Vogue Williams:when pushed Ah Joanne now I'm counting on you to listen to that now we were all Okay fine. You have to take that. Okay good. Okay good.
36:16Joanne McNally:That didn't take much. But even her ex Sam. Your man Sam is like this. Is a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.
36:23Vogue Williams:It just annoys me. Because she was paying him. Something like 25 grand a month. Or maybe more. Child. Yeah.
36:30Joanne McNally:Yeah huge money. Yeah.
36:32Vogue Williams:Kevin Fairline is just a bit yucky. But now in fairness to him. He did bring up their kids. He did. He did bring up the two boys. The two boys did. And also. There's always one side of the story. Another side of the story. and then there is what they call the truth.
36:45Joanne McNally:Well, the kids were, and as much as I am obviously pro-Britney, a judge did decide the children were better off with Kevin. So like, you know, that didn't come from nowhere. So whatever was going on with her at the time, you know, there was a decision made there. We can't be, and Kevin did, you know, in fairness, he seems to have done a very good job on them. But the money he's taken off her is wild. And as well, apparently he's moving them to somewhere like Hawaii or something, because it means that usually when it goes to 18, then you don't pay child support anymore but I think in Hawaii or somewhere like this it's 21 He moved to Hawaii
37:17Vogue Williams:Yeah
37:18Joanne McNally:Yeah he moved there so he could get an extra two years out of her You know It's like it's sketchy and shady But anyway I'm glad you asked me to read the book because that is the only reason I will I'll do it for you I did I saw that But I'll buy it second hand I'll buy it second hand so he's not getting the money I'll rob it That's what I do I'll shoplift the book
37:34Vogue Williams:That book isn't a reading book That book's a listening book I think I don't think you're ever going to read that No no no It's one for the years Walking around with that. Imagine. It's one for the ears.
37:44Joanne McNally:It's one for the ears for sure. But I will do the research. I will do a deep dive and I will come back with the deets.
37:49Vogue Williams:Good. Well, we're looking forward to it. I wonder if he, is he going to do the audiobook? He probably would. Of course he will. He's making the fortune off that. Jesus.
37:56Joanne McNally:Can I give a recommendation now? It's not the crack, but it's so good. And sometimes the culture pocket can, you know, take a sad turn.
38:05Vogue Williams:I actually went to buy that. So yes, go. Because I'm going to go straight on and buy it right now when you say it. because I saw your story about it.
38:11Joanne McNally:I listened to this audiobook at the weekend when I was down in the Cotswolds, however you pronounce it. So Jacqueline Connolly, her sister Clodagh was murdered by her husband called Alan Hall and Alan murdered Clodagh and their three boys in Ireland and it was horrific at the time but her sister has written this book about it and it was, when I say harrowing, gripping, excellent, so worth a read or I read it with years and I just thought it was fantastic and I say this I mean everyone has their own problems and some people have more problems than most but it was a real kind of put things in perspective book you're like wow this what they've been through as a family the narrator is Sherelle Kelleher okay and she's fantastic it's a great listen it's a really great great listen
39:08Vogue Williams:Well, everybody, thank you very much for listening. That was great fun. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Jo. Thanks, Joanne. Thanks, listeners. Thanks, everyone. Goodbye.
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