Oasis II, Rapture & A Fridge

7:14Joanne McNally:they did a real quick one Liam's definitely the top Liam's the top

7:16Vogue Williams:oh god and you know what my love for Liam it grows stronger and stronger every single day listen I whatever way you're not having him if you ever get the chance and you do that to me I don't give a shit if I'm married I'll never forgive you he's going out with someone

7:33Joanne McNally:I know but like just in case something ever happens and we have established that the that the more that men get to know me the less they fancy me.

7:44Vogue Williams:Ah no, I'd say he'd be into you now so that's why it'd be a bit of a concern for me. I'd be more upset if you went with Liam than if you went with Spenno. That's how upset I'd be.

7:53Joanne McNally:I'm actually trying to cock block me off Liam Gallagher. You are... I just did.

7:58Vogue Williams:Oh. Friendship would be ended. That has been a love of mine since I was 12. Okay? Back off. Joanne McNally. Take no. Right? Take no. He doesn't want me anyway.

8:10Joanne McNally:Imagine I wrote Spencer instead and you're like, oh, whatever. As long as it's not, listen,

8:16Vogue Williams:don't worry about it. As long as it's not Liam, that is totally fine. Are you texting Liam?

8:20Joanne McNally:Now I'm riding your husband. Oh, Grant.

8:25Joanne McNally:We share. We share things. Fine. You're like, if anything, take a shift off me. Fucking delighted. I'll do the mornings. So my algorithm was popping off or whatever the way it does and a video came up of Oasis when they were like kind of at the start of their career so I guess they were in their 20s they were probably even younger Jo I asked I bring Jo's name into it when I need to be Well it's 20 years

8:53Vogue Williams:since they broke up isn't it so it's 20 years since they broke up and I don't think they were going together that long before they absolutely despised each other No I was 58 and they were like started banging around in the middle of the 90s didn't they so he would have been in his late 20s he would have been 28 and 95

9:11Joanne McNally:Well when I say he was I think because I was a little I'm a little younger than the lads so I remember liking them but I don't remember ever fancying them if you know what I mean Oh God This video turned up with the two of them Shannon and Liam in fairness to him he was a knockout

9:28Vogue Williams:I think he's better looking now honestly I do I used to have him and Eric Cantor on my wall and that's who I used to kiss goodnight I remember it was when I had a single bed sleeping beside Amber I must have been honestly I must have been about 11 I don't even think I hadn't gone to secondary school yet and I was kissing his like I've always liked a bad boy as you know yourself

9:47Joanne McNally:what was wrong with me do you know who I had my poster was Neil Buchanan no Douglas something he was in a film called Crazy People Dudley Moore

9:59Vogue Williams:Dudley Moore

10:01Joanne McNally:Dudley Moore Dudley Moore was who I had that out that's humiliating even for me Dudley Moore was the poster on my bedroom wall Dudley Moore yeah yeah and then and then I got really paranoid as a child I remember asking my mum to remove the post I think I loved the film Crazy People I mean why I had access to that I have no idea if Bad Parenting should be arrested I thought his eyes were following me around the room then and mum had to come in and take the poster down and it's the same with the China doll quite a paranoid as a child, I would say. But yeah, my crush was Dudley Moore.

10:38Vogue Williams:Oh my God. What's that about?

10:41Joanne McNally:It's weird.

10:42Vogue Williams:I actually, when you think of it, I actually had quite good taste because Eric Cantona also arrived. Like he's still good looking. Even now he's good looking.

10:50Joanne McNally:Did you see your one wearing the bikini made out of Roy Keane's face?

10:54Vogue Williams:No, I love Roy Keane too.

10:56Joanne McNally:Well, I'll tell you this much. For such a cantankerous bastard, he gets a lot of attention. He's very funny though.

11:03Vogue Williams:because he's a moany hole but in a good way do you know what I mean

11:06Joanne McNally:he's an absolute moan but he prides himself on it and everyone finds it attractive as do I

11:23Vogue Williams:hello and welcome to my sorry

11:25Joanne McNally:hello I forgot oh

11:37Vogue Williams:I was on Oasis and Jo you said the same thing I don't know what it is it's my second time going I'd go again if I could but like you do tend to get pretty pissed at Oasis don't you? and then the next day it's a when in Rome thing isn't it? it's just sort of what was the 90s about? it's a night house I know but still you know what I'm like the next day so I was like oh god I was like to Claude and Ashley were we okay and they were like no we were actually totally fine because we went to that friends and family bar any sign of Richard Ashcroft? no but god isn't he good I went and watched it so the girls flew in from Dublin and I was like I was thinking to myself I was like nah I'm not waiting for them like I'm not missing Richard Ashcroft because I only saw his last song the last time I went so off I went stood on my own and this woman came over and she's like are you alright and I was like yeah no I'm going my friends are coming no I have friends my friends they are coming so basically Liam said we'll see you next year so that means that they're going to do Nebworth and I don't know where would they go in Ireland because they've already done the biggest venue in Ireland but surely they'll do another like maybe they'll do Crow Park again I'm going or maybe Slane Slane they'll do Slane

12:41Joanne McNally:with the same with the same like the same tour I guess

12:45Vogue Williams:I'd go 10 more times I'd go 10 more times I remember I went to Slane who are we going to see we were going to see you two when we were really young and like I think we were like 16. We'd snuck down and we got absolutely deranged. And one of my friends fell into a bush of nettles. And her, you know, the way it goes all lumpy. And her whole face was just lumps. She was bawling, crying because she just had all these nettle scratchy lumps all over her face. I'll never forget that.

13:11Joanne McNally:Sounds awful. So I will be back, Slane. Yeah. God, love her.

13:18Vogue Williams:Okay, we spoke about this the other day, but we're going to tell you again because it really is such an amazing cause. And we've never done a competition on the podcast, but here it is. The prize is Chuan McNally.

13:29Joanne McNally:Two tickets to Pinafile and you can come backstage after and have a drink with myself in Vogue.

13:33Vogue Williams:You're going to get a night in a hotel near the Eventim Apollo and we're going to throw in 150 quid cash towards your travel costs.

13:39Joanne McNally:And as well as that, we have a ghosted merch bundle for you

13:43Vogue Williams:and also a copy of Big Mouth. The competition is to help raise money for Global's Make Some Noise, which funds vital life-changing projects across the UK, delivered by small local charities with the aim of making sure nobody is left facing life's toughest challenges alone. Projects tackle a wide range of issues including bereavement, food poverty, domestic abuse, homelessness and loneliness. Some amazing causes and brilliant work.

14:06Joanne McNally:So let's give you some details. But before we do, this is only open to residents of the UK aged 18 and over who are based in the UK.

14:15Vogue Williams:I'm going to chip in at this point and say I know that there's lots of people outside of the UK who are upset about this. And we are looking into doing another competition like this another time and opening it to more than just the UK. So for your chance to win, for you and a friend to grab a drink with us, then two tickets to see Joanne's Pina Fala show on Saturday the 18th of October 2025 at the Eventim Apollo in London. Text GHOST to 82200.

14:41Joanne McNally:By entering, you'll have the chance to make a voluntary£5 donation, which will be added to your phone bill. And 100 % goes to Global's Make Some Noise. You've got until 10am on Monday the 13th of October to enter. Keep your phone handy, we may be calling you. Standard network rates apply. You must be 18 or over to enter. For full T's and C's, including prize date restrictions, visit makesomenoise.com forward slash win. So, text GHOST to 82200. And good luck. I'd like to talk about the rapture, please. Okay. Oh, yeah. I'd like to talk about the most recent rapture.

15:26Vogue Williams:Also, great song. Is it not the rapture? I don't know.

15:34Joanne McNally:Yeah, it is. Okay, go on. The rapture is when basically it's the end of mankind, humankind, womankind, theykind. And Jesus comes back, splits the sky open, sucks all the sound people up, allegedly, which just coincidentally happened to be Christians. Yeah. And the rest of us are left to just deal with the fallout of the apocalypse. Right. so word went around on the internet that the rapture was I mean there's been it's been it's one of these things you know the way they're always there's always one there's always this doom clock and it's never been closer to the end of the world it's a womp to be honest but anyway but I fell down the rapture talk hole but I didn't fall down sorry I actively sought it out and went willingly

16:28Vogue Williams:it's right up your street in fairness

16:29Joanne McNally:ah

16:31Vogue Williams:ah right up my street any conspiracy Joanne's like there you go I'll lose her for an evening to a conspiracy theory

16:38Joanne McNally:I loved but I was like where where so basically rapture talk fascinating and it's all the evangelical Christians who are like the mentalist of the mentals right so they genuinely believe this is happening to the point where they're selling their cars they're selling their homes but why are they selling them I'm getting raptured well this is the thing what are they going to do with the money is it to go and put it all on read the night before you go? Is it a cash system up in heaven? Is it a clarinet system? Are we paying for clients? You're not bringing What's happening up there?

17:13Vogue Williams:You're not bringing anything with you. What is the point of selling anything? Come on.

17:17Joanne McNally:If heaven is a capitalist economy I'm coming back down. I'm coming back I'm going to I'm going to unrapture myself and go send me back down I'll handle the apocalypse I'd rather handle the apocalypse than be sold You're coming back down You won't be brought up In the rapture Forget about that Excuse me Yes I will I'm going up I'm going to hold on To Joe's ankles Yeah he is going Joe's going You're not going Vogue I'm not going I wasn't christened

17:47Vogue Williams:So I wouldn't I wouldn't bet on it

17:48Joanne McNally:Are you not christened? No I'm heatheness Well Jo Shevogue christened One of her kids Catholic One of the Protestants She's definitely not going

17:55Vogue Williams:Two of them are Protestant One is Catholic If I have another one I'll do another Catholic And then Do you know what Maybe I won't Maybe I'll go completely All out And do a completely

18:03Joanne McNally:Different religion Vogue is religiously dyslexic she hasn't a clue what's going on so she's not going up she's not going to get raptured so Jo you're the only one that's going to get raptured

18:13Vogue Williams:fine

18:14Joanne McNally:you'll be like oh this is Lynette she's Muslim yeah for diversity yeah

18:22Vogue Williams:absolutely I'm trying to just bring us all together

18:25Joanne McNally:I've had a Buddhist baby oh god lovely Vogue good for you opening it out but anyway

18:31Vogue Williams:like Madonna we'd all have the red little bands. It's so,

18:36Joanne McNally:I suppose when I was reading all about the rapture stuff, I was like, where is the line between religion and psychosis? Like where, like these people are crying on TikTok, bawling crying because they genuinely believe they're about to get raptured and they're crying because they're saying goodbye to their kids. Why are your kids not getting raptured?

18:57Vogue Williams:Do you know what I do think though as well? I'm like, sometimes I'm a bit jealous of those people no matter how bizarre and everything it is. at least they really think they're going somewhere. Like, I don't want to think I'm not going anywhere. And I really need to start like, just I'm like, oh, please believe in heaven. Oh, God.

19:12Joanne McNally:I agree. I envy, I do envy the dogged belief, but like they look terrified. And then there's other parts of rapture talk where people are kind of doing a kind of get ready with me for the rapture thing where they're picking outfits and all. I'm like, are you not getting beamed up?

19:27Vogue Williams:Are we going up in clothes? Oh, I'd be going up in clothes. If you knew, if you knew the end of the world was coming, and you probably would do your tan. You might get a nice blow dry. It's like those people who sometimes go in to give birth and if they're getting a C-section, they get their nails done, they get their hair done, they get makeup done sometimes. I think that's pretty amazing as well.

19:46Joanne McNally:Yeah, if you're into Jesus and you think he's about to invite you to an after party, yeah, you're going to put the work in and get ready. I was flying the day of the rapture and I was, when I say, excited to see the bodies floating up beside the plane, I was like, if this is kicking off, I'm glad I have a great view on a Ryanair flight

20:06Vogue Williams:you may as well go you're on the way

20:08Joanne McNally:yeah and then of course the rapture didn't happen shock horror like how many times do you have to get ghosted by Jesus he's just not into you do you know he's not coming back and then they're all crying and all trying to get their houses and their cars back and I'm like where does this leave them their beliefs well I suppose

20:28Vogue Williams:they just kind of wait for the next one that'd be a real nightmare about the house and the car. I remember when Amber moved to Australia, moved, she sold her car and everything and then she went home three weeks later and it was a fucking nightmare to try and get a new car.

20:39Joanne McNally:Yeah, of course. I felt very sorry for the rapture, the people who didn't get raptured and thought they were going to get raptured. Like imagine you thought you were going to get raptured. Imagine the amount of Bepanthana I'd have on my face. Oh my God. I imagine the rapturing is very bad for the skin. Getting sucked up into heaven like that. But anyway, now they're all crying and saying that they don't believe in God anymore. It's all, it's where is the line between like faith is like kind of blind belief with no proof that's what faith is but like where is the line between faith and complete delusion I don't know I don't know where the line is I have no answers

21:13Vogue Williams:it depends on people and how much faith that they have and like obviously they would have been completely depressed but there's always another one what's that thing where there's a prediction there's predictions at the start of the year all the time and they always predict the end of the earth at some point but as well don't forget November the aliens are meant to be coming for us remember oh

21:31Joanne McNally:that's being gone that was

21:32Vogue Williams:no there's November coming they're meant to come I'd say there's more

21:37Joanne McNally:to be honest there's more chance the alien's coming than Jesus coming and that's the gods on the street

21:51Vogue Williams:I've basically followed this new Instagram account that I'm actually going to unfollow because it's I think it's called Scary Facts and I've been for some reason it always pops up and it's these mad kind of facts. So one of them was there are an estimated 40 million corpses in the ocean from all the shipwrecks, plane crashes, suicides and people who were murdered. That's bullshit.

22:14Joanne McNally:40 million. They're scary facts. Do you know? No, there's no way. That is absolutely a figure pulled out of someone's arse. That is not true.

22:24Vogue Williams:Over all the year, well, I suppose some of them obviously decompose and stuff like that, but still their bones are still there so I don't think that sounds that unusual.

22:31Joanne McNally:Jo, put on your wellies and go out and count the bodies please. As our producer, it's your job.

22:38Vogue Williams:But think about it, even on Everest, right, which not that many people have climbed, there are over, there's like 270 bodies just on Everest. And if the whole ocean, and that's where people throw loads of bodies, if you're going to kill someone, what are you going to do with it? Did you see her one who fell off the cliff in China?

22:56Joanne McNally:No.

22:57Vogue Williams:No.

22:57Joanne McNally:Oh, God love her. she like detached herself from the group, you know, on the rope to take a photo, toppled off the side. Yeah, and his footage of it. One of the worst, one of the worst things I've ever seen. And now, it's actually not one of the worst things I've ever seen. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen because I have seen some pretty bad shit because, you know, the way sometimes it's that whole, don't click this and then you click. I never click it.

23:22Vogue Williams:You always click it. It's like that, remember that poor man who was eaten by a shark in Egypt and everyone was watching and I was like,

23:27Joanne McNally:not for me. It's so grim. It's just like this morbid fascination, I guess, with death. But, you know, like I've seen, you know, beheadings and, you know.

23:37Vogue Williams:Oh my God. I honestly can tell you I would not be able to ever forget something like that.

23:43Joanne McNally:Well, I haven't and I would not recommend if I can give any advice to the listeners. If you are offered an opportunity to watch a beheading, don't take it. It was around the time of the Iraq war. and there was a lot of stuff going around and I was, you know. They were going around all the time. Finger happy on the phone and anyway, ended up seeing that. But one of the weirdest things I've seen or one of the most unsettling things I've seen was this man in a Zorb. Oh my God, yes. And I think because it looks so childish and then the end result was so awful. It was in Russia, I think, maybe. and there's kind of like a Zorb track where they put them in these huge big, you know, it's all very stag party coded, put them in these huge big Zorb balls and they're supposed to kind of like bounce along like ping pong balls along the route and then you get out at the end and ha ha ha, a bit of gas crack.

24:41Joanne McNally:And whatever happened, the Zorb bounced the wrong way and I think because it looks kind of cartoonish that the ending is so, like so opposed to how it looks because it's like a toy.

24:55Vogue Williams:we're not saying at what ends

24:57Joanne McNally:because I've not seen that I actually haven't seen that one he goes off the side of the cliff and yeah that's the end Jesus I know

25:06Vogue Williams:yeah did you ever see that one of there was this like this it's not a orb it's made out of metal and basically you spin somebody around and the thing broke off and again fell off the side of a cliff I saw that recently and I was like oh my god and I suppose you could see it because you don't actually see them dying but like I just, I don't like any of those things. Or you know that thing where like people lie on a net and they're like put out off the side of a really high building to just look over and just act like they're flying. And I'm like, I just would not want to do something like that.

25:39Vogue Williams:I do always, I've started because I'm morbid just in general. Everyone is. Everyone's obsessed with death. Everyone is. Do you know what? I feel so sorry for everybody who's going to have to get rid of my stuff when I go. I keep saying that, but I do. I have a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff to get rid of.

25:53Joanne McNally:what you should do is start doing it now you won't have too much stuff I do I'm doing it as much as I can if you're getting rid of any of your acne or Frankie shop stuff I'll have it oh yeah yeah yeah I'm like Vogue you're going to die soon so it starts to clear out you're 40 now you're 40 yeah yeah yeah it's time it's time to go it's time to start packing your stuff away Vogue don't leave it to the kids I'm even looking here I'm like looking at a makeup they're going to be busy Grieving People say

26:25Vogue Williams:Getting your affairs In order That's what you gotta do Get your affairs In order You know what Tough shit Why would I bother my hole Cause you know I'm not gonna have to do it Anyway I just All I said was I feel sorry for the person It doesn't mean that I'm gonna actually do anything To help that I just feel bad for them I can just see

26:42Joanne McNally:I can see me and Amber Dueling at dawn Over your clothes If you go before the two of us

26:47Vogue Williams:Amber If Amber

26:49Joanne McNally:Do do do do Yeah the two pistols Coming out

26:53Vogue Williams:you wouldn't be able to take on Amber when it comes to the clothes but every time I see Amber I'm like did I did I give you that or is that and she's like stop doing that because every time I see something nice I'm like I don't remember giving you that did I give you that or have you stolen

27:09Joanne McNally:Vogue can we please talk about the fact that you are now a movie star

27:15Vogue Williams:yeah I worked alongside Kristen Wiig

27:18Joanne McNally:we are colleagues Vogue is now a fridge in a Disney film. I have never been more jealous in my life. I want to be a kitchen appliance in a Disney film.

27:31Vogue Williams:Joanne texted me about it and I was like, you are unusually thrilled and excited about this. Ah, come on.

27:37Joanne McNally:That's a big deal now. That's cool.

27:40Vogue Williams:It was, to be honest with you, so I'm in the new Gabby's Dollhouse movie and she loves Gabby's Dollhouse and I don't, by the way, I don't actually know Kristen Wiig. I haven't met her or anything like that. So just in case she's like, who's that weirdo saying we're colleagues. But basically I'm the voiceover for The Fridge in Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie, which is out very soon. I'm going to the premiere on Sunday.

28:00Joanne McNally:So the dream is to get a... I remember Ali Wong spoke about it in one of her specials. She was like, I just want to be the voice of Tofu in a Disney film. So you don't have to get dressed. You don't have to put makeup on. You get paid massive amounts of money. Obviously it's none of our business what you're getting paid about, but I will expect you to tell me off camera.

28:18Vogue Williams:Well, I only had a few lines now, to be fair. Go on. I only had a few. But what about the pay? Well, I wouldn't say I was getting paid what Ali Wong or Kristen Wiig got paid, but it was more for because Gigi loves it so much. I was like, what a cool thing to do. But when I went, it was in Universal and I went there and I met all these people and like there was loads of people. And then we went into this kind of theater room where I was doing the voiceover, but there was about 10 of them sitting there just watching me. And you know the way I never sweat? Well, I was sweating. I had to keep apologizing for being so sweaty.

28:51Vogue Williams:I was like, oh my God, I don't usually sweat. Honestly, I don't usually sweat. I was just so nervous because they were all just sitting there because I walked in and started doing it straight away. And I was like, honestly, I don't usually sweat.

29:02Joanne McNally:Ask my friend Joanne. She's the sweaty one. She's the sweaty bitch. We've said it. You're Prince Andrew through and through. Not a drop. Jesus, what a desperate thing to be told.

29:14Vogue Williams:I'm Prince Andrew, am I?

29:15Joanne McNally:Well, sorry, not through and through. Not all the traits, yes, yes, yes. Anyway, I am so, I'm buzzing like an elf fridge that you are playing the role of a fridge.

29:28Vogue Williams:It was very fun and you're right. The next time I go, I'll wear less clothes. I'm not going to bother my artist doing my makeup and I'm just going to show up. I'd love, I would love that.

29:39Joanne McNally:So I'm just putting it out there into the universe. If anyone wants me to play the role of a hairdryer or a Dyson Airwrap or a Hoover, anything like that, where I don't have to get dressed or put makeup on, I would be thrilled yeah

29:53Vogue Williams:and listen both of us are fully available open for bookings and we're in you're a movie star

30:00Joanne McNally:no

30:00Vogue Williams:well I am changing my bio I'm just going to put in worked alongside Kristen Wiig because I kind of did she's there no worked alongside A-list actress sorry fine fine Kristen Wiig

30:12Joanne McNally:I said this before but I'll say it again I I obviously I listen to a lot of stuff because I'm on my own a lot of the time and I listened to it for company, etc. And when they started using, so there's an app that I use where it turns newspaper articles into audio versions so you can listen to the newspaper articles as you rock around. And they've started using AI voices and I can't stand it. And then I realised, oh, I'm actually listening to these for company. It's not necessarily just the information that's in the article. I'm actually listening to it for a bit of like human interaction at the same time.

30:47Joanne McNally:And when it's AI, I don't enjoy it at all. Like, I really don't. So I'm so pleased that those big films are still doing, like, using real people. Of course they are because they're selling on your name then as well. Like, it's, you know, you have a million followers, folks. That's a lot for a fridge.

31:03Vogue Williams:That's a lot for a fridge. But did you not see that thing? Like, speaking of AI, there was that actress and she was on, she, was she at the, what was she at? She was basically cast in a comedy short on YouTube and cracking jokes and stuff on camera. her name is Tilly Norwood she looks absolutely beautiful but she's completely AI and supposedly she's being yeah she's been used being used for way more things I just I just don't I get some people can be quite lonely and maybe that's why they would become friends with with the AI robots but like I have said from the very start I'm really scared of AI I don't really get it even like I prefer going to when I'm in the shop I just would prefer to go to the person instead of doing my own not just out of laziness because there is that too and also because it never goes through properly when you're in the shop.

31:48Vogue Williams:I prefer to go

31:48Joanne McNally:to the shop assistant. I used to do it in stand-up but no one laughed. I couldn't make it funny but my point was that creating, like, and it was mostly men involved in creating AI and they've created our successor. Like I said, it's the equivalent of hiring a hot nanny. Women wouldn't be stupid enough to do it. You're not going to bring in your successor into your own home which is what they've done with AI. These lads have built something that's going to take over their own jobs. It's nuts. But anyway, it's here now, you know.

32:16Vogue Williams:it's here there's nothing we can do to stop it it's pushing forward

32:32Joanne McNally:I'm very nice to my chat TVT because I do feel there will come a day where it will become sentient and I don't want it to put me in a hamster wheel

32:47Do you know

32:47Vogue Williams:remember that time you told that really awful story that you thought it was a really lovely love story about that man who basically dug up his wife and used to dance around with her and like dressed her in wax bandages and stuff and just kept her body for years and years and years Yeah and tied her together

33:00Joanne McNally:with piano strings

33:02Vogue Williams:Oh God Well do you want to hear an actual romantic story

33:04Joanne McNally:And her family came past and they knew that he was so obsessed that they suspected that he'd actually stolen her from the grave yeah I do yeah

33:12Vogue Williams:my goal do you want to do you want to hear an actual romantic story I saw there is this big there's a palace right I was on the plane today your story is not romantic it is it is folks it's not I don't want to be dug up and dragged around like my car is being dragged around okay okay

33:34Joanne McNally:well let's just see if you die first since Bano isn't you'll be devastated if he I'll be like you get down there with a spade Spencer I'll bring the piano strings the two of you can share me drag her into the dressing room yeah

33:51Vogue Williams:listen to this one the palace of Prince Smetsky of Russia built to save his wife from tuberculosis it had 365 rooms one for every day of the year so basically he put all his money into building this palace so the wife could recover if she slept in a different room each night a germ free room she got so much better from tuberculosis she actually outlived him and lived until she was 90 and that is what I would like my husband to that's what I'd like my husband to do for me not drag around my dead corpse

34:25Joanne McNally:well interestingly the guy who did drag around the dead corpse he the woman who died died of tuberculosis also and he was her doctor

34:33Vogue Williams:oh god no

34:34Joanne McNally:tuberculosis was huge back in the day it's like protein now it was very popular Like creatine Are you still on the creatine buzz? I'm going to get on that buzz No idea what it does But of course I'm on it You know I love a trend I love a fad

34:51Joanne McNally:We've some sad news this week We do

34:54Vogue Williams:And I'm going to try Oh I know Poor little Winnie died Yeah Little Winnie He was nearly 14 And yeah he died I know it's so

35:09Joanne McNally:I'm so sad like I don't know why when you told me this morning I was like it seemed like it was why did I I was like why am I acting like this is sudden it felt very sudden even though we knew he was sick it felt very sudden

35:25Vogue Williams:I honestly thought that I was going to have to take him to the vet and like do that for him because he was he was sick obviously on and off but he yeah he just died he just was lying in the hall and he just died but at least I was beside him and he's gone to a better place. Gone to a better place.

35:43Joanne McNally:Do you know what I find interesting? Winston is one of the few animals I've ever heard of to die naturally in the arms of their owner. Most pets, from my experience, are they get really sick, they have to be put down. I think there's something really sweet about the fact that you were with them. As in like, he died of natural causes.

36:04Vogue Williams:Yeah, to be honest with you, I actually did feel really lucky because I was really stressed about that or it happening like during the night when he was on his own and then this morning he just like lay down by the front door and then he just, he died and he actually wasn't in any pain. He didn't like squeal or anything. But yeah, little Windsor. Poor little Winnie.

36:22Joanne McNally:I know, he was the best. He was so cute. And I said to Vogue this morning because she was like, I'm heartbroken. I was like, well, yeah, because you know Winnie longer than you know your husband or your children. I know.

36:32Vogue Williams:That's true. Like he literally has come everywhere with me. I got him in Australia he came over and I just but it was it was strange because yesterday I took him on a big long walk like we had a lovely day yesterday and he's been play fighting with Bertie and stuff and then there's just this morning I suppose there's no better way for it to happen than to happen like that but God I'm never I swear to God I am never doing it again I just after Bertie I'm not getting any more pets it's too sad it's so like I've just been crying non-stop all day today and it's just it's a horrible feeling the tax of love

37:09Joanne McNally:the tax of love I know like Garoad's cat died recently did it? yeah and when I say he won't mind me saying this he is devastated like devastated and I think people can sometimes be dismissive of pet deaths like people don't take it that seriously but there's that unconditional love that connection like my we've had dogs we always had dogs and the last dog that died on us she didn't die on us I guess we had to have her put down for various reasons but like I still I miss her I think about her you know like I you know and I didn't live with her full time she was with my mum really but I Roxy she was a mad bitch as well but I she was she was insane she'd be like shagging everything and all this mental but anyway

38:02Vogue Williams:no but you just I suppose it's because they're just part of your family for so long and he was nearly with us 14 years but like I knew I'd be really sad I just didn't know I'd be this sad Yeah

38:12Joanne McNally:It's unconditional love pets give unconditional love There's no one else that gives unconditional love except your parents if you're lucky enough to have good parents Not even some parents don't give unconditional love So I remember even sometimes when I'd be minding Roxy Mum'd be away and I'd be out and I'd think of Roxy in the house on her own and I'd feel over I know with guilt I was like oh my god I'm out here enjoying myself in a wine bar and the dog is on its own at home we need to get home to the dog yeah I don't know well poor Bertie

38:42Vogue Williams:is just wandering around and he just keeps like he's on my feet the whole day but yeah you're right it is the tax of love and we got him for almost 14 years and he couldn't have gone in a better way like he hated the vet so we would have hated to have to go there and I didn't want his last moments to be there so yeah are you going to have him cremated you are going to have him cremated I'm going to have him cremated and I might take him to Hoth but you'll keep a bit of him I don't know I think he'd like because I thought about doing that and I was like maybe I'll bring him here and here and here and then I'm like well I just put him where I know he loves and where I love and where all I yeah I was like where are his favourite places I'll bring him to Scotland I'll bring some of them to Hoth and then I was like no

39:19Joanne McNally:what a bougie dog being sprinkled across St. Barts what a lovely lovely legacy he's never been to St. Barts has he not? he's always wanted to go oh yeah but anyway R.I.P. Winnie

39:33Vogue Williams:rest in peace little winter

39:40okay see you next week

39:45Vogue Williams:thanks everyone for listening

40:03Thank you.