SHE'S IN THE JUNGLE!

21 Nov 2025 · 44 min · 19 chapters

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In short

This episode is a pre-departure chat about Vogue Williams going on I’m a Celebrity…Get Me Out of Here! (she leaves for Australia “tomorrow,” enters the jungle Wednesday, and is on air Thursday). Joanne McNally and Imo joke about Vogue’s “worst-kept secret” PR, airport paparazzi, and her preparations (bikinis, padding, no devices, washing knickers in a lake). They also trade stories: Vogue’s “pissy pants” mishap at Winter Wonderland press night and Zoom mishaps; Joanne’s grief/family anecdotes and therapist/psychic talk; plus a debate about Sydney Sweeney’s controversies (G-E.N.E. ad “white supremacist” backlash, MAGA rumors) and the flop of Christy Martin. Notable examples include Jack Osborne taking away fruit in Vogue’s dream and dreams featuring Millie Bobby Brown and blue eggs.

Guests

Joanne McNally (comedy/PR background), Vogue Williams (TV personality), and Imo (subbing for Jo Addywell).

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Chapters

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Setting the Scene

0:15 to 1:12

The hosts discuss their locations and pod equipment challenges.

“Welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with the usual people, Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams.”

Big News Announcement

1:12 to 2:12

Vogue announces her participation in 'I'm a Celebrity...'

“ask me what's in my case for Australia sorry should we explain before again a little bit of context would go would go far in this situation.”

Secret Keeping and Rumors

2:12 to 4:25

The hosts delve into the challenges of secrecy and rumors surrounding Vogue's participation.

“I can't even look my mother in the eye because she's like, is she going in?”

Preparing for the Jungle

4:25 to 8:30

Vogue shares her thoughts on getting ready for the jungle experience.

“Obviously, when I was checking into the hotel I'm in last night, I was giving them the hell spiel about my hotel experience.”

Dreams and Expectations

8:30 to 14:01

The hosts recount their dreams related to the jungle and discuss expectations.

“Firstly, can I just say your combined level of professional ambition has me wanting to take a nap.”

Bizarre Dream with Millie Bobby Brown

14:01 to 14:49

The hosts discuss a strange dream involving Millie Bobby Brown.

Winter Wonderland Mishap

14:50 to 18:46

A funny story about a mishap at Winter Wonderland involving spilled drinks.

“So anyway, I went to the press night with the kids and I had spilt.”

Reflections on Grief and Family

18:47 to 21:09

The hosts share personal stories about grief and family dynamics.

“Listen, if there's any way to blame something else, you'll always blame something else, aren't you?”

Reality TV and Jungle Adventures

21:10 to 23:07

Discussion on the potential of doing reality TV shows, particularly the jungle.

“No I didn't I've just been so kind to myself because I thought about you and I said what would Joanne do?”

Sydney Sweeney Controversies

23:08 to 27:12

The hosts discuss recent controversies surrounding Sydney Sweeney.

“Well, Eleanor Tiernan, who is a female comic, I think, actually now I don't mind it as much, but at the start I was probably a bit more sensitive about it.”
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Pop Culture and Television

27:13 to 28:00

The hosts talk about pop culture, Euphoria, and celebrity drama.

“I would, I would be like, listen, like, can't apologise enough.”

Ruby Rose vs. Sydney Sweeney: Box Office Drama

28:00 to 29:56

Explore the controversy surrounding Ruby Rose's comments on Sydney Sweeney's film flop.

“she's having a bad run of it in the press and people.”

Film Flops and Honest Actors

29:56 to 30:18

Discussion on actors' responses to their films' failures and public expectations.

Acting Aspirations and Celebrity Comparisons

30:18 to 32:31

The hosts share their acting aspirations and humorous comparisons to famous actors.

“And who did we always used to say about you?”

Seasons Debate: Celtic vs. Solar Calendar

32:31 to 35:18

A lighthearted debate on the differences between the Celtic and solar calendars.

“First of all, have you watched All's Fair?”

Conspiracies and Space Theories

35:18 to 37:28

Exploration of conspiracy theories related to space and the moon landing.

“And then we bitched about her after as well.”

Voting for the Jungle and Future Plans

37:28 to 42:00

Discussion on participating in a reality show and rallying support from listeners.

“I've lost a couple of friends to that by the way.”

Voting Strategy for the Jungle

42:00 to 43:13

Discussion about how to rally votes for a jungle competition.

“Vogue, if you don't fucking win that jungle for us, I swear to God.”

Food Plans and Jungle Excitement

43:13 to 43:38

Light-hearted conversation about food and the upcoming jungle experience.

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Transcript

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0:02Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.

0:15Joanne McNally:Welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with the usual people, Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams. Jo Addywell's away, we have Imo.

0:26Joanne McNally:Just to set the scene for our listeners. I am in Killarney Vogue is in London I'm running a little low on pod equipment as I like to sprinkle things behind me in hotels and leave them there to start a new life with somebody else so that means I have no mic or camera but that's okay

0:48Vogue Williams:Very organised girl she had no headphones last week we found the headphones so we're happy with that Remote podding isn't

0:55Joanne McNally:it's not easy she says zooming in from her bed it's not easy you know

1:02Vogue Williams:I couldn't agree more as I sit here with my mic and my camera and my proper headphones couldn't agree more

1:09Joanne McNally:from the comfort of your own home it's the packing for me is the real issue

1:14Vogue Williams:ask me what's in my case for Australia

1:18Joanne McNally:sorry should we explain before again a little bit of context would go would go far in this situation. I'm going to do a fake klaxon sound for your announcement. Okay, go. Or a drumroll maybe. What's that sound like? Phone ringing?

1:41Joanne McNally:Vogue.

1:42Vogue Williams:What is your news, please? For our listeners. Finally! When you are listening to this, I am going to be in the jungle on I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. I'm a late goer. The rumours are true.

1:58Joanne McNally:I'm not a liar.

1:59Vogue Williams:I haven't been ignoring anyone. I just would rather pretend you didn't ask me the question so I don't have to answer. I leave tomorrow.

2:07Joanne McNally:It's top secret information. It's where she was going into the White House. I mean, we've all found NDAs. I can't even look my mother in the eye because she's like, is she going in? I'm like, I cannot confirm or deny.

2:21Vogue Williams:I mean, I trust Pat. You probably could have told Pat, to be fair.

2:25Joanne McNally:Good, because I tell Pat, yeah.

2:28Vogue Williams:Joanne, I honestly, I know that you'll have told loads of people. Like with Spenny. Come on.

2:34Joanne McNally:15 to 20 people talk, I would say. Some of them I don't even know their names. Whatever. Look, the point is the story never got out. I can't be held responsible.

2:44Vogue Williams:The story never got out. It couldn't be more out. I've had people stop me on the street and I'm like, you should be in Australia I'm like should I? Why? What's happening there?

2:56Joanne McNally:Oh I've been telling everyone

2:59Vogue Williams:I've been I've been bringing up girls I went to school with I haven't seen in 20 years Tell them I am There's nothing better when you have a bit of goss I There was a guy that we work with me and Sven and and he kept asking me he kept asking me are you going and I was like listen I'm not like stop asking me I don't want to talk about it blah blah blah and he was like well I'm going out for dinner with Sven tonight but he probably won't tell me I was like Like, Spenny will tell you within three and a half seconds. He couldn't give a shite.

3:24Joanne McNally:Me and Spencer kept ringing each other, taking turns to tell each other over and over again.

3:30Vogue Williams:I tell you what, it's really hard for me, especially to like, to keep a secret. But now I leave tomorrow. The bags are packed. I think I have everything.

3:40Joanne McNally:For some reason, I thought you were about to say the bag's out of the cat. And I was about to laugh outrageously. The cat's out of the bag, you feel. But no, you were correct in what you were about to say. the bag is out of the cat she is going to the jungle and I'm actually only taking the piss I didn't tell 15 to 20 people I really really didn't

3:59Vogue Williams:you've told more than 10 I don't lie I know you've told more than 10 folk you forget I'm a hermit I haven't spoken to 10 people in a month okay you had two shows in Dublin right oh well I announced it on stage

4:12Joanne McNally:in the Olympia

4:16Vogue Williams:that might have been where you got the traffic That's where all the messages were coming from Great It was the worst kept secret But I don't know Everyone's name seems to come out Like when you see everyone who was announced for it Like they Who wasn't announced for it Then they were So I don't know where that comes from Because everyone got ratted out I suppose no one can hold their own water No one can hold water

4:40Joanne McNally:Well I think it's actually a really good way Of getting a bit of PR for yourself As an ex-publicer and marketeer how I start most of my sentences on a daily basis. I wouldn't mind throwing my own.

4:52Vogue Williams:Did you used to work in a hotel?

4:55Joanne McNally:Well, folk, I'm thrilled you asked. Obviously, when I was checking into the hotel I'm in last night, I was giving them the hell spiel about my hotel experience.

5:05Vogue Williams:I used to do this.

5:07Joanne McNally:Popping my head into the housekeeper and, hey, girls, I'm one of you, you know. But it's a great way of getting yourself a bit of PR. Like, I will certainly be throwing my name in the mix next year I can assure you.

5:19Vogue Williams:I might tuck my back in again. I return.

5:22Joanne McNally:She's going back. Or maybe you're going to host it. Like, I swear to God, because I was sending you names that I was saying, oh, look, you're going to be in with such and such. And you're like, I don't think they're going in. I haven't heard that. So, yeah, it's a great way to just fire your name in.

5:38Vogue Williams:I'm going in with Tom Reid-Wilson, who's gas, and I've cycled by him a couple of times and I'm like, might see a Sunday, Tom. And we're both just laughing at each other. So neither of us have confirmed it, but I'm assuming it's going to, I hope it's him. The worst part is, right, so everyone ends up getting papped in the airport. So tomorrow when I go to Heathrow, if they ask me, if they're like, where are you off to? I have to say, Dublin. And then when I land in Australia, what do you do in Australia? I'm going to say, I've got a part on Home and Away.

6:08Joanne McNally:Are you serious?

6:10Vogue Williams:Yeah, can't confirm until, like, so I, so you'll watch this. I'll already be in so I get trailed on Wednesday so I go into the jungle on Wednesday and then Thursday I'm on air It's like you're going to speak at a tribunal I had a weird

6:25Joanne McNally:This is very much the money was only resting in my account It's got serious Father Ted vibes Do you remember that episode Emma? Did you ever watch Father Ted? The money was only resting in my account Fair That's a good excuse Resting for a while now but it was it was merely resting It was nothing I had On its way to the revenue, simply napping, just taking a little break for itself.

6:51Vogue Williams:I had a weird dream the other night about the jungle because tonight I'm worried I won't sleep, but I don't really care because I'll be on a plane for so long I can sleep then because I'm getting quite nervous now about leaving the kids. Also, I'm going to put this here because it will stop any rumours or like family feuds or anything. She's had a tip job. That will be evident on the jungle. I'm trying to find bras with a bit of fucking padding I'm like I'm not standing beside her or her in the shower I look like I've gone inwards

7:22Joanne McNally:I would die laughing we just arrived into Australia with a huge pair of tits like two double D's with the stitches still in them and you're like what? I'm still

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7:34Vogue Williams:I'm still choosing bikinis because one of them is not padded and I'm like if I turn to the side I look like a fucking ironing board but anyway no so I would like to say here yes I will not. My kids won't come out to greet me in the jungle. So if you get quite far, which I might get kicked out first, but if you get quite far, sometimes they'll fly your family out. But my kids are very young and they're in school and I will have to deal with the fallout of very little children flying for that long for two days. So I've asked for Spen not to bring them out. Whether he changes his mind, I don't know.

8:09Vogue Williams:And also, Spen might not be there because he's doing his Project 7 and 7. So he finishes on the 7th in Antarctica. I finish on the 8th. So trying to get from Antarctica to Australia. That is why there is no family feud. I'm just putting it out there now because I was like, I need to make sure that people know that. But I was thinking of Gina. Gina would be great, crack.

8:33Joanne McNally:Firstly, can I just say your combined level of professional ambition has me wanting to take a nap. I'm tired of you I'm just listening to the junior he's in the Antarctica you're in the jungle where are you I'm in bed and will be watching all of this

8:48Vogue Williams:oh my god do you have a do you have a show on the 8th you could fly out and meet me they'll pay for you

8:55Joanne McNally:I love a business flight and I've just announced my Australian dates I could do with a bit of Aussie I could do with a bit of bridge time now I'm not I'm not willing to share it with you though I'd like just to be on the bridge

9:09Vogue Williams:by myself just push push me off the bridge I'll be weak push you off the bridge yeah you'll be weak come and take the celebratory champagne and be like fuck her I'm on tour I'm on tour I'm on tour guys Brisbane Sydney in Brisbane you're flying to Brisbane oh my god are you going are you going to be in Brisbane yeah so I fly to Dubai two hours stop over then to Brisbane

9:35Joanne McNally:hang a couple of posters for me, will you?

9:38Vogue Williams:Do you want me to do some flyering? I've got a couple of day and days.

9:42Joanne McNally:I wouldn't. Vogue, I didn't want to ask you but now that you've offered it to me put me on FaceTime and just walk me around town and I'll just just do, here ye, here ye. How about that?

9:53Vogue Williams:I have a great idea. Why don't I get paenophile tattooed to my forehead?

9:58Joanne McNally:Ah, I was, I didn't want to say but I was hoping you'd get anxious preoccupied as a tramp stamp so it could be the bad business.

10:08Vogue Williams:supposedly the plane trip home is wild as well everyone's just delighted and they're all getting locked on the plane because we all fly back together

10:15Joanne McNally:stop I would when I say do you know how much I would love to go check your date

10:20Vogue Williams:check your date you'd fly on the 7th you know

10:24Joanne McNally:you know I'm up to my

10:25Vogue Williams:what am I talking about I could get I could get kicked out in the first week so don't do that actually that will jinx me don't do it okay fine I can't

10:33Joanne McNally:I fucking

10:33Vogue Williams:I'm sure I'm fucking I'm on the road

10:37Joanne McNally:so what are we looking at here what's going on have you got any like things you're definitely not going to do because see people this is I'm so buzzing for you to go into this because people don't necessarily know how hardcore you are

10:51Vogue Williams:you see I even though I'm terrified of most things like who wants to hang around with insects nobody does but my shame of not bringing back any stars or saying that I'm not doing it would be too high that I wouldn't be able to forgive myself So I think I'm just going to try absolutely everything. I'm not going to whinge. I'm going to try my best not to be a whinger. Like, it's going to be, I'll miss knowing, like, what am I going to do in the morning when I wake up? How am I going to know if I'm tired or not, if I've slept well? How will I know? I won't have any of my devices. I have nothing. I can't even bring Fectan in.

11:26Vogue Williams:Nothing. This is barbaric. You, so. I know.

11:30Joanne McNally:Not a thing. You're going to war.

11:32Vogue Williams:You're going to war. You're going to prison. I have to wash my knickers in a lake.

11:35Joanne McNally:This is very Timote vibes, isn't it?

11:38Vogue Williams:I'll tell you what, I won't be. I was like, well, you look sexy in the jungle shower. I'm like, no. Like, have you met me? Like, certainly not when I'm sharing. I get shampoo in my eyes and stuff.

11:47Joanne McNally:Well, folks, please just remember, you are, sex does sell. And as an ex-publicist and marketeer, I would be hoping that there is some attempt to be sexy. Do you have a degree in marketing? I have a master's in public relations, baby.

12:02Vogue Williams:Do you?

12:03Joanne McNally:I certainly do. I fucking know you do. Oh.

12:15Joanne McNally:Oh, here's the phone.

12:17Vogue Williams:What has she ordered?

12:19Joanne McNally:I rang down to tell her get out of the jungle and say, write me back. Hello? Hi.

12:31Vogue Williams:Do you want another weird dream I had? Oh, please. Because then I'm going to tell you about mine because it's mad. So I was thinking, right, I was obviously thinking about like going in late and everyone's like, oh God, you guys were in like four days later than us. You don't even have it. And not being accepted by the group and being worried that they wouldn't accept us. And then I had a dream that like I won loads of fruit or something in a challenge and no one's had any fruit. They've only had rice and beans and that I brought it back to the group. And then Jack Osborne took it away from me and said, you can't have any because you've only just got in.

13:03Vogue Williams:Don't give her any fruit and I was just left in the corner with my rice and beans and he wouldn't give me any strawberries.

13:10Joanne McNally:Sometimes dreams are so abstract and sometimes they're very much what you see on the tin aren't they? Like that's just, that is just very like kind of, what would you say? There's nothing to decode there.

13:22Vogue Williams:I'd never thought I'd dream about Jack Osborne not giving me a strawberry. I just didn't see

13:27Joanne McNally:that in my dream life ever. So last night, so I didn't sleep very well the night before so So woke up this morning, went straight back to sleep, but put on a little documentary thing, which I think is why I lose a dream a lot, because it kind of keeps you slightly in your REM mode, I think, more so. And then so I had the dream and it was, the dream was insane. I was being watched by Furbies. Firstly, I realized in the dream, I thought I'd slept through the show and I asked Garo to slap me in the face really hard and he did. And then I realized it was a dream. but then it went into like mad shit where I was eating all blue eggs like all the I was cracking eggs and the yolk was blue and then your one from your one from Stranger Things was there but she was topless what's her name

14:13Vogue Williams:Millie Bobby Brown Millie Bobby Brown

14:16Joanne McNally:great rock on her you keep having

14:17Vogue Williams:do you know she had a dream about going down on Gemma Collins I did Emma yeah

14:22Joanne McNally:I think there's a tiny lesbian trying to push herself out in my subconscious

14:27Vogue Williams:I think so

14:28Joanne McNally:but it was it was just one of these dreams but I knew it was I knew it was a dream and then there was a girl and she was like if it's a dream you can kill me if you want because it's not going to be real and I was like I don't think I want to ever experience that anyway it was mental mental and I'm just so so I'm glad I just read the blue egg thing I was like this is fucking Alice in Wonderland shit this is bizarre but yeah Millie Bobby Brown was there topless I'm sorry Millie Bobby Brown you didn't consent to that

14:51Vogue Williams:oh my god that's very rude I think there's going to be some questions asked maybe you shouldn't watch me the jungle shower you might get turned on you never know It's like Vogue It's not great What? Didn't tell you What happened to me The other day So I went to Winter Wonderland To the press night So you get invited To the press night I'm very lucky To get invited by Global

15:18Joanne McNally:Winter Wonderland Is the new purple dragon There's so much Talk about it Out of you lately

15:23Vogue Williams:Yeah because it's November That's all I'm going To talk about Like I'm I'm probably This is my only time to go Because I'm away now For three weeks I'd usually go two or three times. So anyway, I went to the press night with the kids and I had spilt. So we're in the taxi. They're obviously being really full on. We'd gone to see Sven on his run and then they spilled something down me. But I just put my jacket on. And because it's a press night, there's a lot of photographers there. So you have to go to a press wall kind of thing. I mean, I was wearing, because I'd run with Svenny as well, I was literally wearing running gear and this black jacket.

15:53Vogue Williams:I looked desperate. Everyone else looked amazing. And then I was like, God, my trousers actually feel soaking. so anyway after all the pictures were taken I went and sat in like the ball ball ride with Otto and I was looking down and I was like I was like it looks like I've pissed my pants and I had to ring Louisa because my manager I was like oh my god Louisa it looks like I've pissed my pants they've just taken loads of pictures of me she's like it can't be that bad I took a picture of it and it was worse it was a full wet patch I had to run back and be like to the photographers please please don't put those pictures out I was like it looks like I've pissed myself and they're like it doesn't look at the pictures I'm talking to like six different photographers being like don't put them out if it looks like I've pissed my pants please my kids spilled something on me

16:36Joanne McNally:but again folk this is a great bit of PR if I ever get invited to Winter Wonderland I'll fake I would it's a great way to guarantee coverage you're not thinking the shit through at all

16:48Vogue Williams:I don't want to be known as pissy pants I don't want to be known as pissy pants

16:53Joanne McNally:well are you aware that your your zoom name is now knob bag I'm looking at yeah

16:59Vogue Williams:Mine's Joanne

17:00Joanne McNally:Imogen is down below and you're a knob bag Well if the shoe fits So I think you've got bigger problems in your home

17:11Vogue Williams:Joanne do you think I know how to change the name on that are you mad? I'm knob bag for life now I can't change that

17:18Joanne McNally:That is so funny it reminds me of one of my funniest moments during lockdown do you remember when the guy put the cat filter on himself and he was in that very serious corporate Zoom meeting and they were like, Max, we just need to let you know you are presenting as a cat. And he was like, well, I don't know how to change it. We'll have to just continue. He was like reading out like an Excel doc with like this huge cat head on it. It was very funny.

17:46Vogue Williams:The greatest Zoom that happened in lockdown and I go and watch it sometimes because it's so brilliant is Ming, the Irish politician who was sitting in his knickers on his bed, scratching his arse, and it was in the European Commission. Do you not remember that? And his wife was in the background, asleep in the bed, and he's just like, and it comes, and then when it zooms out of him back to the European Commission or whatever it was, they're all just trying to hold in this lap. He was in his fucking knickers. He had like a shirt on, so he was kind of like nice from the top up, and he scratched his arse and everything in it.

18:21Vogue Williams:I don't think that's in a fair time.

18:23Joanne McNally:Oh no. Zoom has a lot to answer for. A friend of mine, we were laughing yesterday. I don't know how it came up but her mother died years ago. Like it could be kind of 15 years ago. And, which actually isn't that long but anyway, she said...

18:39Vogue Williams:My dad was dead 15 years on Wednesday. No way. Congratulations. Thanks a million.

18:48Vogue Williams:Congrats, Freddie. Congratulations, Fred. He's still dead, is he?

18:53Joanne McNally:Still dead, yeah. still dead so but she was saying I think we were talking about singing and she was like I used to think I had a really good voice but I was completely deluded and she said at my mother's funeral I sang Summer Over the Rainbow she said she said I don't know what I was thinking it was the grief like I'm not I'd never sang publicly before I got up and I said with the mic and all on the altar she goes yeah got up

19:15Vogue Williams:yeah

19:16Joanne McNally:and sang Summer Over the Rainbow at my mother's funeral and what a hard song I know and she's not that type of person at all it's very out of character and she said after no one said it was good they all just said she was really brave they're all like that was brave fair play she's like

19:38Vogue Williams:okay thanks you've got to be careful of the grief because I'm convinced I got married the first time because of the grief I'm sure that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it that's what I think happened yeah 100 % I was like just you're kind of like you're a different person to what you usually are. Yeah. Listen, if there's any way to blame something else, you'll always blame something else, aren't you? 100%. Yeah. Maybe that's what's wrong with me. No, I always think you should blame someone. I said to my mum once, I was like, that was your fault now. I was very upset you let me go to Australia and she was like, how dare, I was like, it was your fault and that's what I'm sticking to.

20:15Joanne McNally:Mothers are gas though and you kind of have to leave them off sometimes because I think they're all, we tend to blame them for most things really or like they have such a huge impact on us and our growth and our development and stuff but like they make massive mistakes themselves do you know and they're also a product of whatever weird way they were raised and all that but yeah but sometimes I brought stuff up with my mum and she's like did I do that? I did not I'm like yeah you did you did that I was like God I'd forget my head no memory of locking you into your room in a cage no obviously not that but you know what I mean my mum would actually be like and so you probably deserved it

20:58Vogue Williams:yeah you probably deserved it yeah

21:00Joanne McNally:I think our mothers were there more like the defensive kind perhaps I can neither confirm nor deny if I'm going to be a jungle would you ever do it would you ever do it would I do it yes if I felt the time was right if I was going to do any if I was going to do any of the reality TV shows though I would it would be Jungle I would be because like you I'm not precious about stuff and I'd happily chew on a kangaroo ball or whatever it is that they need you to do and I think I'd be quite good at getting the stars I have a bad gag

21:34Vogue Williams:yeah I have a bad gag reflex though I have to say if I have to like I will eat the stuff but like if I don't like something it could come back up

21:42Joanne McNally:that's where I did recommend getting into the bulimia before you went so I would really minimise the gag reflex but you didn't listen to me did you? I tried you know

21:49Vogue Williams:well there was there was a lot of things I was going to try and do I was going to try and not eat chocolate for a while I was going to try and cut my coffee down to one I was going to try and stop the fizzy drinks did I do any of that? No I didn't I've just been so kind to myself because I thought about you and I said what would Joanne do? She wouldn't give a shite about her future self so I've decided fuck fuck Vogue in the jungle yeah

22:10Joanne McNally:fuck jungle Vogue treat yourself all day every day but it does leave me with a conundrum because Vogue I can't do this podcast on my own and you're not going to be able to do it from the jungle and I would like you to I thought I was going on my holidays because Vogue was like I'm going to the jungle so I won't be here for three weeks so I was like ah no no going on my holidays but of course Vogue my micromanager extraordinaire was like you're not going anywhere bitch we're going to we're going to get people to come on in my place

22:45Vogue Williams:they're good people they're good comedians we're excited it's going to be good eps can we say you were having or not? yeah I think we can and also I want you and the girls to ask people to vote for me like shamelessly plug me imagine you started bitching about me if I was really annoying on it and you were like god that Vogue one is a fucking nightmare I was like

23:09Joanne McNally:ring 101 for Jack Osborne guys

23:15Joanne McNally:Ruby Wax is flying it in there girls that's who gets my vote what happens when you come out are you going to be like how famous are you going to be I feel like how's this going to affect me

23:27Vogue Williams:you cannot say the word famous do you know what they asked in one of the interviews so when did you realise because it's called I'm a Slept when did you realise that you were famous and I was like

23:35Joanne McNally:that's a terrible question

23:37Vogue Williams:I was like I can't answer that question they were like what do you mean I was like no one answered that question I was like did anyone answer that and they were like no everyone answered it I was like I'm not answering that I'm Irish and I'll actually be barred from the country if I talk about myself like that

23:50Joanne McNally:no way I get asked that sometimes in interviews and why do you think you're so successful and I'm like no Joanne McNally claims to be a massive success like that's you know they're awful questions they're awful or the one I get is what's it like to be a woman in comedy I remember someone saying to me before I'm pretty sure I've heard of female comics walking out of interviews. When they say that. Can they answer that? Yeah. Well, Eleanor Tiernan, who is a female comic, I think, actually now I don't mind it as much, but at the start I was probably a bit more sensitive about it. She was saying, that's like, she's like, I don't know, because I've only ever known, I've only ever been a female comic, so I don't know.

24:28Joanne McNally:Yeah. Like, it's like, I'm in the peachy dish, it's happening, it's rolling, I can't answer that question.

24:39Joanne McNally:Yeah, now the kids aren't going on him. Spencer's not going either, but she wants you to know there's no fuse.

24:45Vogue Williams:We can hear the hang up.

24:52Joanne McNally:Did you see the Sydney Sweeney drama?

24:54Vogue Williams:Well, there's a few things that she's done. So she did an ad with, was it American Eagle?

24:59Joanne McNally:Yeah. And it was like jeans for, I've got good jeans or something like that.

25:03Vogue Williams:It was a play on that it was a jean company, a jean campaign. But it was G-E-N-E. and people were just like pissed off about it.

25:10Joanne McNally:They felt it was kind of tone deaf and a little like kind of white supremacist vibes. Was it, was the, what people, some people took it as, I didn't give it any thought. Blonde, blue eyed. Yeah, but then I am a white woman with blue eyes so that's probably why I didn't give it that much thought. But it didn't read to me like it was a play on white supremacy but I think that would be a very, as an ex-publicist and marketing professional, it would be a very ill-advised route to go down to do something like that. But she also has, there's a bang of MAGA offer, apparently, there's a bang of, they think that there's, and of course she's, you know, that's online, it doesn't go down well if there's anything possibly.

25:50Joanne McNally:But anyway, she was interviewed by a liberal recently who asked her, had she any comment on the drama around her being a white supremacist on a G-not. And she said, I feel like if I have anything to say about anything people will hear about it. I.e. fuck off. And of course the internet exploded. Half, some people were like fair play to her, who cares. Like she doesn't, you know, she's decided not to speak about it and she shouldn't have to answer it. And then other people were like, this is disgusting, this is gross. She should have acknowledged it.

26:27Vogue Williams:You're never going to make everyone happy. What I found strange that she did was because I would be, I would never go against Taylor Swift ever not that I have any problem with her but she started going out she started going out with Scooter Braun who totally fucked over Taylor Swift and it's like that's an unusual I mean you can't help it you fall in love but supposedly he's a bit of a wank bag

26:49Joanne McNally:yeah he's a bit of a he's a bit dodge isn't he but I do feel like bit like me knob bag knob bag he's one of you I do feel though she there was a weird she'd have kind of very I would say smug look on her face when she was saying she wasn't going to speak about it. I, I, personally, if there was a massive fallout over the ad and I'd been in the ad, I would, I would be like, listen, like, can't apologise enough. Wasn't the intention. You know, there's all that that you would say. I don't think I would sit there with that weird smile on my face and say, there's something quite smug about her. There's just, she's, I don't think she's handling what's going on with her at the moment well.

27:31Joanne McNally:I just don't think she's handling it well.

27:33Vogue Williams:supposedly there's a big fallout so there's a new season of Euphoria coming out. If anyone hasn't seen Euphoria, watch season one and season two. It's amazing. I haven't watched this. Oh my God, Joanne, you're so, you will love, won't Joanne, love it, Emma. No, you'll love it. You will love it. I might start today. Zendaya's in it and supposedly you're in Zendaya and I've had a big fallout. And I don't know, I get same vibes off Zendaya,

27:56Joanne McNally:I just do. Same. Yeah, I do as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, Sydney's screenings, there's something, she's having a bad run of it in the press and people. She's not popular on the internet is what I'd say. But then you wonder, and then, did you see this? Oh my gosh.

28:13Vogue Williams:We should be on GB News, you and I. We've got some real hard-hitting stories on this pod. You can be Eamon Holmes. I begs not.

28:21Joanne McNally:And ill-informed opinions, to be quite frank. Do you remember they asked me to be a contributor? You and Nigel Farage going in holding hands. they think she'd be a great asset I was like GB News what if I accidentally tweeted in the middle of the night that I've been asking on GB News

28:43Joanne McNally:Ruby Rose blamed Sydney Sweeney for film's box office failure so Sydney Sweeney has been in a film that's come out called Christy and it was about the biopic tells the story of boxing champion Christy Martin and became one of the biggest flops of all time on its opening weekend making just one million from 2 ,000 cinemas a per theatre average of £495 so like that's and I think this is all happening because of what's going on in her private life or personal life or kind of between the Scooter Braun and the white supremacy and the MAGA stuff and all that jazz right despite the failure Sweeney took to Instagram to defend the movie she says if Christy gave even one woman the courage to take her first step towards safety we would have succeeded am I proud yes we don't always make art for numbers we make it for impact then Ruby Rose

29:41Vogue Williams:tell that to the investors yeah I know it's not for the money guys it's not for the money I want my money back

29:50Joanne McNally:this 60 billion project was a passion project for me because it had none of my money in it so do you remember Dakota Fanning was in a flop recently and she came out and she goes yeah I agree it was shit do you remember that no and the yeah she was like I get why it's a flop yeah she goes yeah I didn't think it really worked either to be honest and the I like her as well so Ruby Rose do you know who she is no and she's a good friend of Taylor Swift so it's all connected

30:18Vogue Williams:is Ruby Rose the Australian actress Ruby Rose prominent figure in the oh she is prominent figure

30:25Joanne McNally:in the LGBTQ plus community accused Sweeney of not being connected to this aspect of the character or maybe Christy's oh yeah sorry that's it Christy Martin identifies as a lesbian and has been married to a woman since 2017 Rose a prominent finger finger prominent figure prominent finger in the lesbian community gasp prominent you'd hope to be wouldn't you which one at the top of your game prominent figure in the LGBTQ community accused when you have not been connected to that aspect of the character and called her a cretin and obviously the stats on the Christie film are proof that this is having a real impact on her career and the studios she says with no knowledge of how any of this works if you could lose that much money for a studio you know they're not going to be banging down your door for scripts

31:23Vogue Williams:You're absolutely correct Joanne McNally

31:25Joanne McNally:And I will say I'm taking an acting course next week so Sydney if she's not working I'm happy to slip in take any roles I'm doing an improv course so yeah send it my way that'll be fun I always said I couldn't act I can't turns out I can I did that Lifestyle Sports Christmas campaign and I was I was watching videos like I can act yeah

31:50Vogue Williams:I thought for a brief moment I thought is that Al Pacino on screen because that's the vibe I'm getting hooah is that Jennifer Lawrence in a Lifestyle Sports campaign I could have said something nicer. No, I was thinking more of Robert. Which is our big baby. Robert De Niro. I thought Robert De Niro. And who did we always used to say about you? What's his name? What's his name?

32:09Joanne McNally:Meatloaf. Remember? Thank you. Meatloaf. Yeah. Meatloaf saving Christmas for a lot of stuff. It's in his gym gear.

32:20Joanne McNally:I get it. Folks from out in Pedigree Chum again. Look, there she is.

32:24Vogue Williams:Afghan hand. Winning crufts. I swear to God, there was someone across the road from me with an Afghan hound. I swear to God, she was smirking at me. I just, I felt like the owner knew. The woman who owns the hound. I know, I did feel like I knew. Okay, I have two things to say to you. First of all, have you watched All's Fair?

32:44Joanne McNally:I haven't. And I haven't. And I want to, I want to, but I don't want to.

32:51Vogue Williams:Please God, can people not ruin this for the rest of us? Even Emma loved it. It is so ridiculous that it's brilliant. and now I'm scared that everyone's been panning it so much that it won't come back like Sex and City. It's so good. Like, I'm caught up. I'm like, fuck it, dog. I'm not going to be able to watch it now. I nearly cancelled Going in the Jungle because I was like, I can't miss All's Fair. It comes out weekly now. Does it? Well, like, three apps, then one came out and the next one's out. Is it on Monday? I'm not going to be able to see that. Great.

33:22Joanne McNally:Great. Do you hear she failed her bar exams, Kim? Yeah. and she was on the phone to her sister saying her psychics are all full of shit

33:31Vogue Williams:well they were weren't they

33:34Joanne McNally:it wasn't just on this occasion I might like to add there you know how I feel about psychics it's like she said

33:40Vogue Williams:psychics oh yeah she's a few I used to love that now I do have a girl who is more like a tarot reader and she is amazing like you'd love to even chat to her Penny she's in Ireland and she is she's one that I would talk to and I keep meaning to talk to her again but I just haven't had time. I don't even have time to talk to a therapist at the moment. I have something I need to talk about. Joanne, you know I don't really like when you're right. I am thrilled

34:09Joanne McNally:that you remembered to do this because I forgot. Yes. Yeah, I'm a turn coach. I await your apology, please. I'm ready to receive.

34:15Vogue Williams:Well, I'm not apologising because that's not in my nature.

34:18Joanne McNally:Not what you do. Yeah. Do the way you do. I will say...

34:22Vogue Williams:I'm sorry, but... Okay. I am sorry but you might have been partly right about the seasons because I got but it just I wouldn't say that you're fully right because supposedly there are two calendars but if I I should probably be going by yours but it turns out I am a turncoat Would you like to explain what you're talking about? So Joanne said that she thought winter was in November and I said winter starts in December because that's what I'm more so saying that I think November is in winter. Yeah, so November is in winter. And we were wondering why it was still quite warm. But I was going by the, basically, Met Aaron.

35:06Vogue Williams:Does Met Aaron do it as well, that that's winter? Well, Met Aaron, yeah, so in Ireland. So in Ireland.

35:13Joanne McNally:Joe and Vogue both told me I was wrong, deranged, and a fool. And laughed about her.

35:18Vogue Williams:And then we bitched about her after as well.

35:20Joanne McNally:Did it, yeah.

35:21Vogue Williams:And then yesterday I rang him and I was laughing again yesterday. I was ringing about her and I'm telling everyone about her. Just slagging her off the whole time. Joanne was going by the Irish Celtic calendar. So the Celtic calendar divides the year into four seasons. Spring, Arak, summer, I'm not going to do all them, autumn and winter. Each lasting three months, starting with, okay, unlike the solar-based modern calendar, the Celtic calendar is rooted in seasonal cycles and is marked by eight festivals. Right, the four main Celtic seasons. Spring, February, March, April. Now I haven't seen anything pop up in February I have not seen a single bluebell But anyway I'm willing to deal with this Summer, May, June, July August feels quite summery You have to admit Basically

36:06Joanne McNally:Vogue has taken the soup Which is a term that Irish people use For when an Irish person loses their cell in the UK Do you know what?

36:16Vogue Williams:I don't even drink soup I don't like soup And I have not taken any soup it is a saying

36:25Joanne McNally:and you are soupy mac soup face shame on you egg on your face, soup in your eyes okay meanwhile I'm over here eating shamrocks I'm here eating shamrocks running for the Irish presidency at this point you've lost your way Vogue or should I call you

36:48Vogue Williams:lady Vogue Lady Vogue You're going to be the next Bob Geldof Is what you're going to be When you get knighted You'll take the knighting She's like clay pigeon shooting at the weekend

37:02Joanne McNally:Like a turncoat

37:03Vogue Williams:Anyway I am happy to go by the Celtic seasons But I have to say I don't think that August is I just feel like weather wise Maybe it's because things are changing But I think for me It feels more like we should probably go with The solar based calendar not the English calendar it's called the solar based calendar oh sorry okay yes the solar I go by what the sun tells me and the moon yes you are

37:30Joanne McNally:everyone knows you are a massive naturist

37:40Joanne McNally:am I going to have to listen to the pod when you're not here to see if everything is okay

37:45Vogue Williams:yeah sure like that's ever going to happen in a million years like I can't listen to myself

37:57Vogue Williams:you know that really clever fella who does all the planet stuff what's his name all the stars that you're looking at are suns and they all have their own solar solar system so they've all these so all those hundreds and hundreds of stars and also those stars lights went out millions of years ago so what you're seeing is the actual past I was freaked out last night nearly couldn't sleep they are dead

38:20Joanne McNally:they're dead

38:21Vogue Williams:technically

38:22Joanne McNally:yeah I know it's mad isn't it isn't space mad space is mad I don't know

38:27Vogue Williams:space fella Brian Cox yeah Brian Cox that's him

38:31Joanne McNally:I'll never forget a woman I knew kind of by not not very well but she was kind of a friend of a friend she she went down a kind of a big conspiracy lane and she basically and we all went that starts with a bit of journaling and it ends with being a flat earther. Yeah. And she...

38:52Vogue Williams:I've lost a couple of friends to that by the way. Just like the over conspiracy theories where it kind of gets to a point where like they're trying to scare you out of drinking tap water and stuff. You're being... Yeah. Yeah.

39:03Joanne McNally:Shame. Ellen DeGeneres is a lizard. That you know that's where ultimately it ends. And... Okay now. She was saying she was online she was doing Insta stories and her son was in school learning about space. and she was on doing instant she was saying to her son I'd take all that with a pinch of salt now I eat space yeah so like she wouldn't believe in the moon landing and all that kind of thing yeah I know somebody

39:30Vogue Williams:who basically who believes that there's like a hole like we're inside a hole or something but Buzz Aldrin who was one of them

39:41Joanne McNally:or something

39:42Vogue Williams:yeah something crazy like that but Buzz Aldrin has been coming out and saying. And I don't know if it's clipped up differently or something like that, but there's been a couple of occasions where he's been saying that there was no moon landing. But Spenny had an astronaut on his pod and the astronaut was like, why are you asking me that question? That's like, basically, it's the most ridiculous question I've ever heard in my life. Why are you asking me that question? And Spen was like, well, it is on the internet. But like, I don't know if Buzz Aldrin means to do that, but he's basically saying that he didn't land on the moon.

40:09Vogue Williams:Now, I obviously, I believe there is...

40:11Joanne McNally:Buzz Aldrin to me is that little doll he sings to infinity and beyond.

40:16Vogue Williams:No. That's Buzz Lightyear. Buzz Lightyear. Do you know what, Joanne? You can get stuffed. August is definitely in summer. August is in summer. I'm not having it.

40:26Joanne McNally:It's a very vogue way to defend an argument. She's like, look, the facts are in your favour. However, I feel that the seasons are marked incorrectly. And this is what I'm going to do about it.

40:41Vogue Williams:And that is that for this podcast.

40:43Joanne McNally:Yeah. and let's wrap it up just there when I've said the last thing

40:48Vogue Williams:Will do you remember doing that when you were younger and your parents were like don't answer back fine don't say anything again I won't and it just couldn't stop last word yeah

40:57Joanne McNally:yeah

40:59Vogue Williams:last word jinx

41:01Joanne McNally:so when this airs you will be in the jungle promoting my promoting my Australian tour is that correct?

41:10Vogue Williams:yeah if anyone wants to see me I'll be around the Brisbane area for a couple of days before heading into the jungle on the Wednesday I will be flyering for Joanne's tour and yes I will have some discount codes for the tickets that she has kindly given me and it's going to be a bit like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory one of the leaflets will have a free anxious preoccupied bag on it

41:32Joanne McNally:I might give you the purple jacket I'm wearing and the poster to wear when you're coming out of the bridge oh my god that's a brilliant idea brilliant also feel free to drop the name in does that air I'm also going to New Zealand New Zealand, just if you think of it, Auckland, Wellington.

41:47Vogue Williams:Sure, well, listen, I'm not a lazy girl. If you want me out there and you want me to pop over to New Zealand after, that's okay with me. That would be great.

41:57Joanne McNally:Delighted, this is, so I am on the jungle, basically. But I don't have to go anywhere. Perfect. Oh my God. Vogue, if you don't fucking win that jungle for us, I swear to God. Ah, don't, don't. You're not coming back in the podcast. I'm not going to have a loser on this thing

42:13Vogue Williams:Ireland can vote but I can't vote but I think you can get free VPN things, they're not illegal by the way, you can get free VPN things which means you can vote so try and find a way to vote Ireland, come on come on and England listening please and Scotland Scotland and Wales sure

42:32Joanne McNally:England, Ireland, Scotland Wales we bought those dodgy boxes let's get this across the line let's get this across the line

42:40Vogue Williams:If I don't win Do you know what If I don't win You're not on the pod anymore Because it's your job To be back here Asking people to vote for me With your new co-hosts Yes

42:51Joanne McNally:Well I will I will rally The troops for you I will I will do my very very best I really will

42:57Vogue Williams:Every time you're on stage I want you to have something Up behind you With the number to call To vote for me And I don't think That's a lot to ask Considering I'm flying For your new shows Flyering

43:06Joanne McNally:Vogue I can't help you In Ireland now What you've after done With the seasons it's over for you over here it's over for you

43:16Vogue Williams:I'm off to have a burger for lunch because I'm really lapping it up yeah gotta go have a burger for lunch and I'm gonna have pad thai for dinner and then tomorrow I'm gonna eat everything within my sight I'm gonna be like Pac-Man and I'm not prepared to give up coffee or anything for the jungle so

43:33Joanne McNally:I can't believe I get to spy on you in the jungle now for ages this is great

43:38Vogue Williams:I know It's like having the Google doorbell on full time I hope I don't make a show myself And I hope I have the best time ever And I'm going to miss you all Listeners included

43:46Joanne McNally:Bye Vogue Bye Bye See you later

43:57Vogue Williams:This has been a Global Player original production

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