In short
The hosts trade TV nostalgia (Hannah Montana, Buffy, Clueless, Friends, Round the Twist), debate Easter traditions (bunny vs Lent; childhood sugar chaos), discuss luxury/ethics in fashion (Dior markup: $57 production vs $3,000+ retail; labor exploitation; “genuine fakes”), and react to space news (Artemis II flyby around the Moon; toilet reportedly blocked/frozen; “moving to Mars” jokes).
Guests
No guests. The episode is a two-host conversation between Vogue Williams and Amber Wilson, with Joanne (Jo) and “Spencer” mentioned as people in their lives.
Key claims
Jo’s Australian tour ran long by about 40 minutes due to losing track of time; Dior bags are produced for $57; Artemis II is a Moon flyby (no landing); a toilet issue involved freezing and unblocking.
Notable examples
Juno’s restaurant routine in Melbourne; Easter egg hunt with “Gigi”; Round the Twist “fingernails” episode; Hilary Duff resurgence; Vogue’s planned “bliss” tattoo; Artemis II toilet freezing story.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExploring Melbourne's Food Scene
0:45 to 4:22
Discussion about Melbourne's food, coffee, and personal experiences at restaurants.
“I say, folks, you know I can't bear an abbreviation of breakfast.”
Show Insights and Ticket Sales
4:23 to 7:14
Sharing experiences from a comedy show, including ticket sales and performance duration.
“I'll just read the message because she said, oh, I've just come off stage.”
Childhood Easter Memories
7:15 to 12:38
Recollections of Easter traditions and childhood experiences related to Easter celebrations.
“Yeah, but you should email each of those ticket holders and say, sorry about the kerfuffle there, but I did stay on stage an extra 40 minutes.”
Nostalgia in Entertainment
13:46 to 14:00
Discussion of recent entertainment nostalgia, including reboots and tributes to past shows.
Episode Discussion
14:00 to 28:03
“She did this lovely post about the fact that he'd said to her once, it's very hard being like near to the limelight, but not in the limelight.”
The Price of Luxury: A Rant on Handbags
28:03 to 29:24
The hosts humorously discuss the outrageous prices of luxury items and share personal anecdotes about their own shopping experiences.
“it's honestly like they're taking the piss out of you.”
The Thrill of Fake Purchases
29:24 to 30:58
A lively conversation about the excitement and drama of buying fake designer bags in New York City.
“Would you not be nervous walking around holding like, 10 grand in your hand.”
Vintage Shopping vs. High Street
30:58 to 32:45
Exploring the hosts' preferences for vintage shopping over buying new items in shops, showcasing their humor and shopping habits.
“And then he chose a bag for his partner or whatever.”
The Return of Space Exploration
32:45 to 34:18
A lighthearted discussion on the resurgence of interest in space exploration and the upcoming Artemis II mission.
Artemis II: The Mission Details
34:18 to 37:55
Diving into the Artemis II mission specifics, including astronauts, plans, and humorous takes on the challenges of space travel.
“So it's the biggest news story of the week.”
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Toilet Troubles in Space
37:55 to 40:51
A humorous exploration of the practical difficulties faced by astronauts, including issues with space toilets.
“And like the stuff that sounds amazing, like the shaft of piss, I'm sad that that wasn't true because I was looking forward to that being true.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Vogue Williams:This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:05Joanne McNally:I would be fanny fluttering back into the sack, I'd be done. I would never lie to you to your face, but I will lie to you via text message.
0:11Vogue Williams:The reason for my trip to St Bars is to buy another crustacean. So I have been looking at crabs. Yes!
0:20Joanne McNally:Oh, I don't understand dollars now. I work in crypto now. Scrap everything, we're moving to Mars. Jo, put it in. Put in the to-do's.
0:29Vogue Williams:put on the studio show we're off get my first tattoo please tell me it's not just something
0:34Joanne McNally:you saw yesterday on the internet i saw yesterday on the internet okay
0:43Vogue Williams:hello and welcome to my therapist ghost of me this is probably the furthest apart we've ever recorded. Joanne is in Melbourne.
0:52Joanne McNally:Melbourne. Melbourne. Melbourne. Yeah. Melbourne. With the, yeah. Pimper Bricky. I say, folks, you know I can't bear an abbreviation of breakfast. When I say, Jo, have you ever been to Melbourne?
1:06Vogue Williams:I have only ever been to Sydney, Australia. Never Melbourne.
1:10Joanne McNally:Oh, God. I know.
1:12Vogue Williams:Sydney's
1:12Joanne McNally:stunning. Sydney's stunning as well.
1:14Vogue Williams:So mainstream.
1:16Joanne McNally:It's extreme. It's all about Melbourne. The food, like when I, I remember the first time I went to America, I thought I was going to be like, the food was going to be off the charts and I wasn't. It was just normal food, like normal, regular food.
1:30Vogue Williams:No offence to the Americans.
1:30Joanne McNally:The food, no offence to the Americans, obviously, jeromecly.com, full tour, September, October. But, the food in Melbourne is off, do you remember it? The sandwiches are like, works of art. Like I cannot get over it. It is insane. The food is fucking insane. The coffee is shocking. It's so good. I just don't understand. There's a lot of talk about the coffee now. I'll be honest. I like it. I like it as era. I like to just power through my, my, I like a dried nest cafe. So the coffee's kind of wasted on me. But there's a, there's a restaurant down the road because, because I, because of the way I operate.
2:12Joanne McNally:And like loads of people are the same. If I like something, I like it. I'll just go back and back and back again and again and again like a like a rat up a drain pipe and there's a restaurant that I went to originally called Juno's so I've now been back to Juno's every day for the last
2:27Vogue Williams:4.5 days and it is why break it why if it's not if it's not broken don't fix it keep going I go in I'm like hey Helen how you done I'm in remember you did that you did that in the in um in South Africa as well. I just feel like if you find somewhere good. Now, maybe not to the intensity that you do, but I assume you're working your way through the menu. I assume there has been more than a chicken salad. No, no.
2:51Joanne McNally:Poached chicken, Asian greens. And a gin martini. Every day. Poached chicken, Asian greens. Helen, hi Helen.
2:59Vogue Williams:Ew, a gin martini. Is that that disgusting drink that's usually got vodka and the olives in it and then now it's gin? Ugh. I'd die if I had to drink one of them. just because
3:10Joanne McNally:just because you don't have a developed palate
3:13Vogue Williams:Joanne that is like putting petrol on a tongue I have never it's like you could light a match and it would go up yeah
3:20Joanne McNally:I want to drink a Jo Malone triple bit candle I want to feel the fucking burn
3:23Vogue Williams:oh god do you know what that's probably why you're never sick there's no way anything is getting inside that throat of yours
3:29Joanne McNally:because I'm always sick yeah exactly so I'm never sick because I'm all exactly I have no tonsils I shrank them I burnt them off it's gas it's hilarious yeah so what else have you been doing in Melbourne well the tour started today also can I just say I did that thing that I tend to do where I forget that I'm actually I have a job that I have to sell tickets and I just rock out to Australia and I'm like chilling by the pool drinking my little glasses of petrol and then and then Alana the promoter texts me going you know you still have like 400 tickets to sell in Australia and I was like shit I totally forgot Sydney, Perth extra dates additionals websites joanmclyde.com I went to the first the opening night of the Aussie tour tonight in Melbourne in the comedy theatre now the clock the clock broke on the sorry Joanne in the words of David Beckham be honest the clock didn't break I just stopped looking at it you broke guess how long hour 40 how the fuck did you know that
4:43Vogue Williams:because I can guess I can guess where you'll go to I just I honestly know you so well now that I could just I just know because you'd probably you wouldn't be able to do more than an hour 40 because you wouldn't well you probably would I'd say it good an hour
5:00Joanne McNally:so I I lost track of the clock and then I wasn't sure and that just didn't make any sense to me anymore. So I just stopped looking at it.
5:07Vogue Williams:And I could say... Hang on. Did you tell us a lie? Yes. Did you then tell us? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just realised the same thing. Do you want to tell us? Yeah, I did tell you a lie.
5:16Joanne McNally:But I'm going to correct it now. I had to tell you a lie. I had to tell you a lie about...
5:21Vogue Williams:Hang on. Just for context. I'll just read the message because she said, oh, I've just come off stage. She said, I'm sorry, the whole festival is running over. And then she tries to come on here and say the clock broke. she tried to flame the clock nice I ran over
5:39Joanne McNally:I ran over and I'm saying that now because I'm looking you in the eye and I would never lie to you to your face but I will lie to you via text message but I ran over an hour and forty I came off stage I could sense an unease in the room and I was like what's going on and then Alana my so Bound with the promoter I'm with her partner Jell he's really really really tall and I saw him get up and leave and I was like excuse me Jell fucking rude but Alana told me after she was like our babysitter Ryan going like I have to go home like I have my own kids to raise Jo was like I have to leave came on stage Kylie my tour manager who a Vogue you know because she was our tour manager she was like an hour 40 hold on can I do the Aussie accent an hour 40 no babe you did an hour 40 and everyone's looking at me going because I'm the last because I'm the last show in the venue I do have a little bit of wiggle room.
6:33Joanne McNally:Anyway, a huge apology to everyone.
6:35Vogue Williams:For context, how long was it supposed to be? Hang on a second. An hour. An hour. No, no, you usually do an hour 15. You did an hour 15 when I was there, which I think is perfect timing. Perfect, I agree. I also think giving people an hour 40, I don't think it's something to apologize for. You say, you're welcome.
6:51Joanne McNally:That was your tip. So, yeah, it's a funny one. Like if I was in the audience, I'd be fuming. Well Joanne If I was you I lost control I lost control I lost control Of time and space I lost control And I'm sorry But I had a ball Also for context
7:08Vogue Williams:You were coming off stage Then that meant At 11pm So we're recording this After your show It's now quarter to midnight In Melbourne So you Yeah people
7:17Joanne McNally:Melbourne It's Melbourne It's Melbourne Jo Just so you don't Make a show yourself Melbourne yeah It's Melbourne No it's okay Can you imagine How furious I'd be
7:25Vogue Williams:If I was sitting there And a show went on until 11 o 'clock at night I'd be like who the fuck does this person think they are let's not pretend
7:32Joanne McNally:sorry sorry sorry sorry focus let's not pretend you would sit there you would have the engine running yeah out the front G2 would be on the e-scooter
7:40Vogue Williams:and you'd be fucking gone I'd only have seen 40 minutes do you know what you should do though because I think people should be grateful because you flew to Australia what you should do is you should you should email it's a charity job basically
7:53Joanne McNally:I'm not out here for the good of my health I'm out here to donate my services to Australia for free.
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8:01Vogue Williams:Yeah, but you should email each of those ticket holders and say, sorry about the kerfuffle there, but I did stay on stage an extra 40 minutes. So if you wouldn't mind, I'm going to send you a payment link for an additional$40.
8:14Joanne McNally:I'll do a Vogue apology where I email Evan and be like, sorry that I did an amazing thing for you. And I will wait to see your feedback, what you say to me in a positive format.
8:28Vogue Williams:I would like a few more Bob please thank you very much
8:32Joanne McNally:anyway look lessons have been learned tomorrow night the clock will be working and I won't I won't lose one of myself in the same way
8:38Vogue Williams:that bloody clock that bloody clock honestly come here to me I want to talk about Easter Easter's turning into a thing again I feel
8:48Joanne McNally:I've now time for it
8:50Vogue Williams:I'm kind of getting more and more into Easter Spenny was talking to these people we were down at the hotel the other day and he's talking to them and he goes what even is Easter like I know there's Santa Claus but what about the Easter bunny and they were Catholics and they were like not again he
9:04Joanne McNally:sorry he does this all you every fucking Easter Spencer asks what Easter is I can't keep explaining
9:11Vogue Williams:they were like they were like it's the resurrection of Christ and he was like oh so there's actually something behind it well where did the bunny come from and I'm like well where the fuck did Santa come from I was like Svenny the bunny is just a thing but we had this thing in our house where because we were over here and James and Brian, our friends were here and their son Cosmo. And I was like, are we doing the Easter bunny? Is the Easter bunny like, is that a thing for kids now? Because like, obviously every, all the other things make sense. But I was like, I just, I remember growing up and thinking there was an Easter bunny, this giant massive bunny with like really short teeth who was going to scare me, yellow eyes and stuff, who was coming dropping off eggs.
9:48Joanne McNally:It sounds like Donnie, Donnie Darko. Do you remember him? Yeah, yeah.
9:53Vogue Williams:That's kind of what I, but like bigger, bigger, more bunny body. Yeah. But like, but then I kind of was like, okay, we're doing it. I suppose that we're doing Easter. Easter is now a thing. So we did do Easter and they loved, and we did the Easter egg hunt.
10:06Joanne McNally:I know you so well. That's just you trying to get your step count in under the guise of parenting. Oh my God. They absolutely, no. I know you. She had a 5am with the resistance band saying she's on, she's looking for Easter egg. She's not, she's trying to build an artist. I know you so well.
10:21Vogue Williams:She wouldn't even get involved. I was like, come on Gigi. She was in the pool. She was like, no I'm not doing it I said Gigi we're all going out I have a little basket for you to go out and collect the eggs she didn't want to get involved because she said she's not good at it and everybody will get more eggs than her so she just didn't want to get involved at all she's a woman
10:35Joanne McNally:after my own heart I'm the same if I feel I'm not going to excel I've no fucking time for it and I have actually noticed watching her stories recently she is getting a little lazy even I've noticed that she just sits there in colours
10:47Vogue Williams:that's what Gigi does yeah she's going to be an artist like just let her be she won't get in the pool because I won't let her wear a bikini so every day we have bikini what where yeah where i bring her because she has one bikini she's allowed to wear at home in the pool which has now made itself its way down to the beach because i just couldn't handle the wars anymore because she only wants to wear a bikini i'm like gigi you're five you're wearing swimsuits you're not just getting to wear bikinis because i want her arms and stuff covered up from the sun so we have full wars about like and i mean that girl can hold out she's like i'm not going swimming today and she will not go swimming can she hold out that's gas i wonder
11:21Joanne McNally:where she got that from. I have no idea. Wonder where she got the stubborn mule stubborn mule in a bikini. Where did that aesthetic come from? That's mad. That is mad. Easter to me growing up was Lent, obviously. Huge thing. Ash Wednesday, you look like you got shot in the head for 24 hours. Jo, I don't know if you do that in your land. We go and kind of roll around. A priest is kind of dumps an ashtray on our forehead for the day and then everyone kind of smugly walks around being like I went to mass I'm better than you and then Lent kicks off and obviously my mother was like give up chocolates give up sweets because it was the 80s so your mother was like you're fat right so then everyone gets us sweets and sugars and then all my uncles and aunties every time they visit they bring sweets and sugars and then we put them all in a huge biscuit tin and we save them for Lent for sorry for Easter Sunday and then Easter Sunday 6am I'm down I'm in the tin it's feral there's fucking Turkish Delights I had mountains of shit to get through before I could even get to the egg in a whisper cup and they all came in a whisper cup they came in a cup so I ate the whole tin whole tin and then I'd vomit everywhere because I would eat like nine Turkish Delights seven whispers couple of more albars marathons as they were called in my day Joe and it was just absolute carnage chaos it was fucking a mess and then you start your eggs oh god yeah and then your mum would dress you up and put you in a little dress and drive it to your anti-breeds and then you'd eat more chocolate more sweets and then you'd pass out at about 9pm and then you'd get up and you'd think you were allergic to pineapple because you had a piece of pineapple at about 8.30pm the night before and you got sick and then you'd blame the pineapple
13:16hey
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13:45Vogue Williams:we've got a bit of um a nostalgia stuff going on this year hannah montana 20 year reunion aired um there was also a 13 going on 30 reboot that's been announced there's a new harry potter tv series that's been dropped the devil wears prada 2 is out soon buffy well it was going to have Yeah, that got pulled.
14:04Joanne McNally:I don't know what happened there. She's not fucking happy.
14:07Vogue Williams:Sarah Michelle. Is it because I think someone died? Your man died from the cast?
14:15Joanne McNally:Yeah. He passed away. And it was actually really sweet. She did this lovely post about the fact that he'd said to her once, it's very hard being like near to the limelight, but not in the limelight. And she was like, you were always in the limelight for me. It was kind of, it was quite sad. I know, I know. but
14:32Vogue Williams:do you see what Phoebe from Friends came in and said she said that no one cared about her on the set of Friends she was like the sixth friend
14:39Joanne McNally:yeah he said her agents were like whatever she just delighted to be on Friends like there was no there was no strategy for her career but I also think it's as tale as old as time that most people on our side like we give out about agents you know we're always kind of saying they don't do anything and they do do more than we think they do but yeah Lisa Kudrow was kind of in a way at the moment again like a massive resurgence her show the comeback apparently is really really good I think that's the third series and she's remaking Romy and Michelle Jo is that right? I loved Romy and Michelle I'm pretty sure they're making a reboot of that Romy and Michelle's high school reunion are you sure?
15:21Vogue Williams:I'm pretty sure do you know what I'd love? I'd love another Clueless imagine we got a Clueless 2 or a Full House remember Full House? do you know what I would love?
15:30Joanne McNally:what?
15:31Vogue Williams:Save the Last Dance
15:32Joanne McNally:Pug Wall or Round the Twist Oh
15:35Vogue Williams:Round the Twist was so good
15:37Joanne McNally:Have you ever ever felt like this when things happen and you're going round the twist Jo you're too young for this I think I am Yeah Round the Twist was this weird it was like a it's like a child version of Black Mirror I remember one episode there one of the girls she wouldn't take her clothes off in the gym and then it turned out she'd fingernails all over her body Oh my god Ew Yeah I remember it was such a weird show it was dark it was like it was Black Mirror it was like a dystopian it was a dystopian TV show for kids I'm loving all the nostalgia though I have to say we were more hardcore Jo you're triggered we were fucking leaning in to the drama and the violence of it all we didn't know we were born you didn't know you were born okay here we go it was an Australian show right in the twist Australian's children's comedy drama now when I say this was so dark like the fact that they're describing as a children's comedy drama there was like kids were like do you remember the episode where the woman the girl wouldn't get into the pool and then it turned out she was a mermaid do you remember all this oh my god but it was so good for us like growing up when you're younger you're like fascinated it was weird it was dark and strange the programme follows the supernatural adventures of the Twist family oh yeah they used to live in a lighthouse do you remember who leave their conventional residence to live in a lighthouse in the fictional coastal town of Port Naranda.
17:04Joanne McNally:You should watch one now and tell us what it's like. I bet you it's such a load of shite. I'll never forget the fingernails. Like it was, I'll never forget the fingernails. I never forget it. And they were growing out of her body and all. Speaking of nostalgia and such a great point, folk. Hilary Duff.
17:20Vogue Williams:I know, do you know what? I have to be honest. I never really got Hilary Duff at the start. I'm not really getting her now. Neither did I.
17:26Joanne McNally:I, I, yeah, I wasn't. Huge fan base though. Huge. I think we're a little, like we're more kind of around the twist vibes whereas there's a generation below us, I would say, that are very, like Disney kind of focused. Well, that's the
17:41Vogue Williams:Hannah Montana kind of vibe and that's a 20 year reunion. So we were like, like I was 20 then. I was too old to be watching Hannah Montana. You'd be worried if I was watching Hannah Montana at 20.
17:50Joanne McNally:Well, I would, yeah. I would, yeah. What are you doing on Saturday?
17:57Vogue Williams:What are you doing on Saturday?
17:58Joanne McNally:Getting my first tattoo
18:00Vogue Williams:Oh God, please no I'm sorry, I just Svenny's on that buzz too and I have to say to Svenny, do you know you're an adult, do whatever you want I can't fight any more about it what are you getting, where is it happening what's it got to do with it, have you actually put any thought into it, please tell me it's not just something you saw yesterday on the internet
18:20Joanne McNally:I saw it yesterday on the internet okay
18:24Vogue Williams:what is this what is this work of art going to be is it going to be similar to a Ben Affleck back tattoo or are we going a little smaller
18:33Joanne McNally:it's your family's faces
18:38Joanne McNally:all across my buttocks
18:40Vogue Williams:have you and Spencer been in contact because he seems to think that anyway he can have a tattoo he's like I'm going to start with a vogue I'm like that's disgusting
18:51Joanne McNally:he's trying to get you to agree for him to get like a fucking snake tram stamp he's like if i indulge her ego and just get a little vogue tat at the start oh do you know what my one of my exes
19:04Vogue Williams:the one that people will know he got out we were like we were mid-argument we were mid-argument and he came back and i was getting my hair done and he came back into the hairdressers and he had gotten our wedding date tattooed across his wrist and if you look at that same wrist now it has been replaced with a batman tattoo with a batman logo and i don't really remember ever knowing he was into batman i was like whoa we've really fallen out i am so well i mean you are divorced like i
19:35Joanne McNally:mean if you still had the date like i i can see it's still there it's still under there yeah it's for life. I'm such a simpleton that if I had a fight with a lad and he came back and he had like a tattoo of anything to do with me I would be fanny fluttering back into the sack I'd be done. I'm so pathetic.
19:54Vogue Williams:She might make she'll miss the appointment
19:56Joanne McNally:it's fine she'll miss the appointment
19:58Vogue Williams:I won't I won't actually See you there.
20:00Joanne McNally:I've set an alarm.
20:03Vogue Williams:For Saturday at 11. Yeah
20:04Joanne McNally:I've set an alarm for Saturday. Tell us what are you getting what are you getting I'm getting Fungy the Dolphin as like a chest piece. okay fantastic
20:12Vogue Williams:yeah that actually do you know what if you include a bit of seaweed I love it Je D 'Or it's good isn't it
20:18Joanne McNally:Je D 'Or yeah that's a stylish classic timeless piece I'm getting I'm getting bliss written in a in a deadly font across my kneecap Vogue sorry for the listeners I want you to know Vogue is holding her face in her hands sorry Vogue I can't help
20:42Vogue Williams:I'm have you ever heard her use the word bliss have you ever heard her say it once has she said bliss once in the whole
20:49Joanne McNally:five years it's a new word for me so I'm excited to get it tattooed on my body I think I saw it on
20:55Vogue Williams:someone's kitchen wall once yeah
20:57Joanne McNally:I'm getting live laugh love oh yeah love tattooed across my labia bone
21:03Vogue Williams:and okay I've no regrets why don't you get live laugh on your fingers so knuckles like knuckle dusters live laugh and then it could do love on your forehead that's tacky Vogue oh sorry sorry sorry fungi I don't know
21:21Joanne McNally:I just I just booked in I had to tick a box I said knee I thought you didn't like your knees I don't exactly exactly it's that or get a face drop you're you're drawing attention so it's above I'm going to show you now yeah so this I'm not sure what this part of the legine is but so there's
21:38Vogue Williams:I'm telling Pat before you do it I'm telling her no don't don't don't do that
21:43Joanne McNally:I don't tell Pat don't do that I'm texting her you know she'll fly over and be really embarrassing she'll drag me out by my hair don't do that sorry I'm telling Pat I can see Pat she'll be like at least get your passport number tattooed on you something worth I can see her kind of like trying to turn into like a functional exercise so the bit the bit above the knee Jo what's that called the top leg in your thigh Bottom of your thigh Yeah Well that's where it's going And it's stunning And you know who has it? Kylie has it My Australian tour manager Kylie has tattoos
22:18Vogue Williams:All over her whole entire body By the way So that would make sense She does She has now ended up With a bliss above her knee Because she ran out of things to write Yeah
22:26Joanne McNally:She is tatted To like to the She is top to bottom Tatted But her bliss tattoo And we discussed it And we've been discussing it for a while I enjoy the philosophy of it I enjoy the kind of topping out of like it's got a good energy and I like the font and I like I think my legs are a little bald and I want to add a little pizzazz
22:46Vogue Williams:Okay well we are I don't know about you
22:49Joanne McNally:Jo but I am very excited I look forward to seeing your face on Spencer's ass cheek and my bliss on my leggy She'll miss the appointment I'm pretty sure
22:56Vogue Williams:but I'm also going to text Pat so it's probably not going to happen
22:59Joanne McNally:Please don't text her please don't
23:07Vogue Williams:so you know the way that there's all like sometimes i don't know if anyone else does it's sometimes i'll go into a designer shop literally just to go seriously like if i go into hermes for instance and they're selling a surfboard is that her maze um yes oh my god this you're in
23:27Joanne McNally:st bart's too long i don't like this i don't like this at all yes sorry james and i because i called
23:34Vogue Williams:Giacomoose Giacquimus once and he just and then he started bringing up that you said Gavinci We love James but he is a
23:41Joanne McNally:violent aggressive snob Leave that in Jo
23:44Vogue Williams:Anyway So like I go into some of those shops They're really expensive on like I mean Hermes selling a surfboard for 25 grand and I mean seriously So Italian prosecutors uncover that Dior pays$57 to produce the bags that retail for $2 ,780 which is a markup of 4 ,800%. And there's going to be an investigation to them because there's a broader probe into labour exploitation so that some of the workers, the subcontractors who Dior use, are paid as little as$2 an hour. Sorry, that is immoral. I mean, it's not like this is used to anyone, but it is immoral. It's absolutely true. Sorry, do you know what else is immoral?
24:29Vogue Williams:Do you remember when Valenciaga were selling a roll of sticky tape, just sticky tape for£3 ,500? And then they had that crisp packet, which was an empty packet of crisps, £1 ,490. £1 ,490. Sorry, I don't know why I said it like that. And those rotten crocs that you sent in were£690.
24:48Joanne McNally:No, I do like the crocs. Oh, God, no, you actually didn't like those. Can I interrupt you, Vogue? Do you mind me asking you, how much was the lobster that you have mounted and framed in your... Remember the lobster you flew back from the same place? Oh, my lobster.
25:01Vogue Williams:Well, it was actually a gift to Spencer for his birthday. So I wouldn't have a nap. I wouldn't have a birdies notion.
25:07Joanne McNally:It's the size of a five-year-old child, this lobster.
25:10Vogue Williams:It's still a fucking lobster from the sea. It's not a golden lobster. It's an actual lobster shell. It's a Pavo lobster.
25:18Joanne McNally:It's the size of a five-year-old child.
25:21Vogue Williams:At the end of this month, it's going to be the five-year anniversary of the lobster. And do you know what's nice? I'm actually that's why I've come to St. Barthes to celebrate the lobster because this is where he came from so I'm now going to the shop to look for Did you bring him
25:36Joanne McNally:or is he still in the basement in a glass box?
25:38Vogue Williams:He's actually in storage with Kevin Carey because I didn't want him to get smashed in the house and I'm over here now and the reason for my trip to St. Barthes is to buy another crustacean so I have been looking at crabs Yes Come on
25:58Vogue Williams:I am buying a crab friend for the lobster and I'm gonna buy you crabs for your birthday
26:05Joanne McNally:you're like if Paris Hilton rode David Attenborough and then like some sort of toxic creature was born where you're like got tons of cash but you also care about the environment
26:18Vogue Williams:do you sorry do you not remember i tried to buy a flamingo and i was onto this girl and she had a flamingo ready like one a frozen one and she was getting ready to get them all sorted but he just wasn't pink enough for me so i didn't end up buying him and then i felt like if i start buying flamingos where does that end i'm sorry yeah exactly spenny's pheasant is going to come back down now i've gotten rid of it up to scotland he'll be like the first pheasant he ever shot will be coming back down to her house and i don't it's not as pretty as a lobster the lobster is a beautiful piece of art i do know how much it was but spenny's mom bought it for him and she will have gotten a discount in that shop sorry back to dior that's what i was talking about you want excuse me so do you know the way like and you go and you buy your fake bags sometimes and they're they're not a bad price but fake bags are quite expensive even those that you got in morocco So anyway.
27:08Joanne McNally:Oh! I bought my Louis Vuitton and I thought I was going to get it all for a tenner. And your man was charging me. I was like, are you fucking joking me? He's like, genuine fakes! And I was like, yeah, okay, okay. Calm, calm, calm. But like you're charging me like a shit ton of, I thought they were basically going to be free. But apparently the bag, the brands are in on the business.
27:32Vogue Williams:Well, supposedly the genuine fakes that you buy are coming from the factory that the bags are made in. God knows if it's that. But I always think, right, if you're going to buy, if you buy a bag, like I don't feel like I need the brand name on the bag. I'd rather buy a nice bag that's actually good quality leather, that looks nice, rather than spending like five grand on a Chanel bag. But listen to this. So Dior, Joanne, minimum in Chanel, and they all sell out. But Dior bags are like, if you ever went to Dior, it's honestly like they're taking the piss out of you.
28:05Joanne McNally:Sorry, I think they're mentally ill.
28:07Vogue Williams:Guess how much it was found a Christian Dior bag that they're selling for three grand is. Guess how much they pay for the three grand bag. $57.
28:18Joanne McNally:You didn't even let me guess, Vogue. That's the worst game ever. It was a rhetorical question. I was going to measure it up against the price of a boxed crustacean in your basement and be like... Okay, Jo, cut that bit out.
28:30Vogue Williams:Guess how much a Dior bag
28:34Joanne McNally:actually costs I want people to know what I'm dealing with
28:37Vogue Williams:it's going to be a very difficult edit so I think I want people to know
28:40Joanne McNally:what I'm dealing with
28:42Vogue Williams:guess John go on I dare you guess
28:45Joanne McNally:57 euro you so close it was dollars
28:50Vogue Williams:dollars nearly on it oh I don't understand dollars
28:53Joanne McNally:no I work in crypto now
28:55Vogue Williams:dollars is like I don't know like what 48 euro or something just a little bit less but I think someone's bringing them to to court over the fact that their markup is so ridiculous. That they're, it's like, you're selling a bag for three grand, but you're paying$57 for it. It is obnoxious. I won't even go in there to sneer at the bags anymore. I'm not going in. It's obnoxious.
29:18Joanne McNally:Now I, now, I have to be very careful how I speak about this, considering I do actually own a bag business. I hate handbags. No, what I mean is, I don't understand. Would you not be nervous walking around holding like, 10 grand in your hand.
29:34Vogue Williams:You can't walk around London with a Birkin because somebody is going to rip it out of your hand. It's literally like
29:39Joanne McNally:walking around with a wad of cash just like free flowing in the air. Like I don't get it. I know it's terrible. I always,
29:48Vogue Williams:I just think I'd rather have the money. I'd rather the cash.
29:51Joanne McNally:I think it's so impressive getting a good fake. Like I've, like I get a, I have a fake Louis. But why do you want a fake? Futon. You just want a nice bag.
30:00Vogue Williams:I don't know.
30:01Joanne McNally:I don't know because I don't care I bought a fake Louis futon in Grand Canal Canal Street in New York and it's hilarious so Hannah Burner Des Bishop's wife Hannah who you know brought me down she was like come on we go shopping down in the fake bag street and I was like oh my god buzzing and you know the way it's all new to you and it's so exciting and thrilling and it's like you kind of feel like you're in a cartel like you're one of the Kinahans you're like in the mix you know in the one of these kind of like Asian triads like you're in the kind of in the trenches and the women come up and they're like fake bag, fake bag and they have these kind of list of stuff that's kind of been cellophane and it's all very, very cloak and dagger, right?
30:48Joanne McNally:And I'm buzzing because I'm illegal but I'm legal and like and then your one show me and then this policeman came over and I was like, hands up, hands up because I was like, oh, I'm done. I'm buying genuine fakes. He knows I'm buying a Louis Vuitton. And then he chose a bag for his partner or whatever. So they're all in on it. They're all in on it. And the boss buying that bag is way more exciting than going into an actual shop and just paying money for it. I'd rather be dragged down an alleyway and like, I just prefer the drama of the fake purchase.
31:26Vogue Williams:Yeah, but you get where I'm coming from. I'd rather just not have a fake, I'd rather not have the brand like I don't want a fake I just don't want I'd rather just have a bag from Topshop or a bag from Revry than having the actual fake because I just feel like I don't I don't really I don't I just don't I don't care that much about about labels no of course you don't
31:47Joanne McNally:no
31:48Vogue Williams:you've got your crustaceans my new thing is whatever you're like
31:53Joanne McNally:have you met my have you met my Prada Flamingo box in the basement whatever I don't like labels now but that one is no but whenever i go into a shop my new like this is my new toxic
32:06Vogue Williams:trait that i just do i go into a shop right and i'm like god that's a lovely missoni dress i leave the shop and i go straight on to vintage and i'm like look 80 quid vintage 80 quid i can't i don't know if i'll ever be able to buy something in a shop again without checking vintage first even with that frankie shop jacket i was like i'm gonna get this fur jacket from frankie shop and i was like you know what i'm not i'm gonna wait till next year because that'll definitely be invented next year i can't can we talk about this sorry artemis 2 space oh space is so interesting
32:49Joanne McNally:Space is huge right now Space is back It's huge Space is back It's back I can see the stars It's the tamagotchi It's culottes It's skinny jeans It's juice couture It's van Dutch It's happening
33:01Vogue Williams:I mean I just feel like Space never went away But it's really having Because you've got your
33:07Joanne McNally:Finger on the pulse For lay people like me And Joe Space did go away And now it's back
33:11Vogue Williams:Sorry but guys It didn't Katy Perry brought it back to us Katy Perry She dabbled She dabbled that poor girl she went up in a lift she went in a lift she got everyone talking about space again not in a good way but she
33:26Joanne McNally:she raised awareness
33:27Vogue Williams:she raised awareness so they there has been a little group of astronauts everyone wants to be an astronaut now by the way I have no interest I will never dip my toe in that field I never want to be an astronaut I don't want to go to space I don't want to leave the atmosphere I bought an astronaut don't want to leave the atmosphere it's not our vibe no
33:44Joanne McNally:I don't want to we're so happy this atmosphere suits us down to the ground
33:48Vogue Williams:down to the ground I enjoy gravity I just like being down here and I have an app that I can see the stars and I can see what's going on up there I saw the Milky Way yesterday so I'm happy and there's a telescope
33:58Joanne McNally:very dehydrating I would say I mean I like to put a panther on a long haul I don't know how much panther I'd need to break the atmosphere and go to space I'm not willing to do it
34:08Vogue Williams:you age slower in space I was looking up some really brilliant space facts that we'd love excuse me yeah scrap everything
34:15Joanne McNally:we're moving to Mars Joe, put in the to-do's. Put in the to-do's, Joe.
34:21Vogue Williams:We're off. So it's the biggest news story of the week. It's the Artemis II space mission where astronauts are going to fly around the whole moon so that we have never actually seen the back of the moon that is not lit because the sun never hits it. So God knows what's happening back there. Tramp stamp. We don't know. We've never seen it. There might be a bliss written at the back. Bliss written at the back. Tramp stamp.
34:45Joanne McNally:Tramp stamp. Tramp stamp. fungi the dolphin full blown hold on I've been a little bit absent because I'm focusing on myself right now but I've seen a lot of talk about a flyby so my understanding is they're not planning to land or kind of set foot they're just doing a kind of a drive by of Mars or the moon where are they going?
35:10Vogue Williams:The moon the moon they're having we have not we haven't got the capacity to reach Mars just yet? I heard we have
35:17Joanne McNally:I heard we can refuel now on the moon because there's water there that's what this mission
35:22Vogue Williams:is for they're going to turn the moon into a service station and stop off there
35:26Joanne McNally:an apple green an apple green yeah quick Starbucks and then on to on to Mars I do I do love an apple green
35:34Vogue Williams:I enjoy maybe we could do that what's that Barack Obama Plaza I could go up there because they do a really good breakfast in the morning I'd go to I'd go to the moon
35:43Joanne McNally:if I could get a nice
35:43Vogue Williams:hash brown Do you know the moon Supposedly space smells like steak That sounds Yeah it sounds expensive
35:52Joanne McNally:Smells like steak is what I've been reading I was kind of hoping for something A bit more affluent Like kind of Tommy girl
36:02Vogue Williams:Tommy girl That's like 20 quid In the airport now
36:06Joanne McNally:Come on Something space based I thought you were talking about
36:14Vogue Williams:something expensive I'm like Tommy Earl's not expensive anymore
36:16Joanne McNally:steak is expensive well when I was a publicist I worked on the Lynx account and the fact that Lynx Apollo haven't involved themselves in smelling stinking up space is frankly a shambles on the part of their PR team and everyone should afford it
36:31Vogue Williams:I don't know if they could afford it okay the astronauts that have gone up there's four of them it's a 10 day mission they're gonna go around the moon and back they're not stopping what's the rush? well they're just having a little luck so there's the first woman has gone to space in 50 years but sorry Katie Perry
36:51Joanne McNally:yeah excuse me Katie Perry broke the atmosphere and do you remember the last time they sent a woman to space for a day and they gave her 60 billion tampons do you remember that? because she was like I might come on like do you remember Joe do you remember this? the lads packed her lunch the lads packed her lunchbox and it was very much like when your fella packs your overnight bag when you're about to give birth and puts a load of lingerie and stockings in it. They packed, Google it there, Joe. Google it there. Fact check me there.
37:16Vogue Williams:Do you know what's, do you know what's been happening up there on Artemis? Supposedly the toilet was blocked like straight away because the spaceship was facing, there was no sunlight basically hitting the spaceship at one point. So everything froze and they blocked the toilet. So then they had to re, they had to turn the spaceship around a little bit so that it could face the sun and it could melt what was in the toilet and then unblock it. Now Vogue,
37:40Joanne McNally:you know I love. That's true. No, no, no, no, no. please please please I love and respect you however I did spend a year fully believing that a woman was stabbed to death by a frozen shaft of urine from an airplane
37:50Vogue Williams:yeah but that listen can we fact check
37:53Joanne McNally:can we fact check the block toilet show please
37:54Vogue Williams:the block toilet is a thing
37:57Joanne McNally:I'm still I'm still recovering from Wu-Tang Clang and I would I don't want to make any more errors
38:03Vogue Williams:now do you want no shade right but I think out of the two of us you're probably the one that brings the least factual things to the problem sorry I think is what you're saying. The whimsy. Okay, the whimsy. And like the stuff that sounds amazing, like the shaft of piss, I'm sad that that wasn't true because I was looking forward to that being true. And then I felt sad that it wasn't. So they're going to be, yeah, they're just doing it and they're coming back. They left on the 1st of April. Loads of people saw the spaceship go up that were flying by it. So loads of people that were just on flights.
38:34Joanne McNally:I saw there was, and that actually, to be fair now, that did kind of make me feel something, which you know is nice doesn't happen every day wouldn't it be cool though
38:44Vogue Williams:to be on a flight and just see a spaceship going up beside you someone
38:47Joanne McNally:I was do you know what really tickled me so basically obviously do you know what I never think about like the whole space thing you're like oh go on they're going to space you don't think about what actually like kind of is involved in getting them up there and there was an airplane and I was trying to see was it AI but our pilot was like if you look to the right you're going to see this like rocket like passing by like breaking the atmosphere going into the orbit or outside of the orbit. And someone wrote, imagine being on the other side of the plane. So like there's this monumental, historical moment happening.
39:16Joanne McNally:I'll never forget flying into New York for the first time. And I was in the middle and the guy at the window had his window down and we were flying over like all these kind of iconic, like the New York landscape. And the pilot was like, if you look to the left, you'll see the Empire State or whatever. I can't remember what it was. And I was like, this fucking prick. Why didn't you ask him to open? I did. I did. I said, would you mind? I said, I've never flown into New York before. And he didn't open it? No, he did. No, he did. He did. He did. But like, it's something I assume, like, I don't know.
39:47Joanne McNally:I just thought like you'd kind of, without me having to beg.
39:50Vogue Williams:I'd always open it when, like you have to.
39:53Joanne McNally:Well, you have to open it when you land, but that hadn't happened yet. But yeah, I was like, I was hoping to see like the, what's your one with the count? With the 99? The Statue of Liberty. There you go. I was like, I want to see all the bits and bobs. And he, yeah, kept the window shutter down. Anyway, Mars, more about it.
40:10Vogue Williams:Yes, NASA did ask her if 100 would be sufficient. That's not ultimately how many ended up going, but they did ask that question. And yes, the toilet was and possibly is still broken. And I know Joanne doesn't like toilet details, so it can only be...
40:26Joanne McNally:I don't mind, you've broken me down. It's frozen, it's frozen. You've broken me down with your juvenile childish behaviours.
40:32Vogue Williams:I didn't bring it up, but it's all been frozen, so it's all frozen and it's blocking the toilet. Well, they can only use it for the number two ones. You can't use it for the number ones.
40:44Joanne McNally:Oh, God. That doesn't make sense. It's usually the other way around. Because it's broken. I mean, it's not our money. It's the American government's money, I assume. They're American, aren't they, Jo? They are.
40:53Vogue Williams:Yeah, they do enjoy spending paying those tax dollars. You know, if you're an American, even if you leave America, you still have to pay a certain level of tax in America whilst also paying your tax in the UK or wherever while she's alive.
41:06Joanne McNally:But sure, I pay talks everywhere I go. Everywhere I go, I pay talks. So I gig in the States, I pay talks. Australia pay talks. Ireland pay talks. It's immoral. It's brutal. It's immoral. It's barbaric. I don't want to contribute to society. I've been very clear from the start.
41:27Vogue Williams:Thanks everyone for listening. We will catch you on the bonus.
41:35Joanne McNally:has been a Global Player original production.
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They said it couldn't be done (well they didn't say that, but still...), but Vogue & Joanne recorded this episode across a 14 hour time-difference, with Vogue in St. Bart's and Joanne in Melbourne, Australia. Joanne's literally just come off stage, Vogue's just finished breakfast. The vibes are different, but somehow it works. There are lies, TV comebacks, essential Caribbean shopping and a full, professional and detailed review (sure...) of the Nasa mission around the moon.
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