Tyra has legal beef & Lee Andrews has.... Hair.

6:58Joanne McNally:Is it? Okay. I'm guessing it's not Amber.

7:04Vogue Williams:Well, it will be if she doesn't give up the old smoking. She promised to give up two years ago. I'm like, Aaron, 7am, you're going in for a smoke. I thought you were giving it up.

7:13Joanne McNally:I remember years ago when a member of my family his name I will not disclose I found out they were smoking and I left like I was you know when you're like 12 and you think that anyone smoking is going to be dead within the year and I left this letter in their bedding begging them like and it was like it was wet with my tears of like how much I was begging them to give it up and like I want I love them so much and I want them to live forever and I couldn't bury the idea of life without them and everything here's me last night out for drinks fag on one hand vape on the other

7:42Vogue Williams:literally double drop One of my dad's mates used to call over to his house. Now, in fairness, he was like whacking out double heart attacks and he had a triple bypass. He was doing all the bits, but like his friend used to bring him back smokes from holidays and his friend would arrive at the door. I still know the friend. He works with my brother a bit and I'd be like, get off my dad's doorstep. Don't you dare come in here with those cigarettes. Yeah.

8:10Joanne McNally:And there I am buying Gina smokes on the plane. Stop, I know, I know. listen life comes at your heart doesn't it huh the vaping I fully blame Lily Allen I'm sorry Lily I'm a big fan but you've made vaping chic you're vaping all the time and now you've made me think it's okay for me to vape and then on TikTok do you know the other night I actually put in vaping death because I was like this because I started vaping again on tour

8:34Vogue Williams:you'll hear the crackle and that will put you off it's the crackle that got me in the end

8:37Joanne McNally:yeah yeah I was like Joanne you need to educate yourself on this now because you're just you're you're very trigger happy with the vape and it's too much.

8:48Vogue Williams:Now I have to say, and I think vaping is disgusting, but I love it. I miss that blue razz. I can't tell you. I miss that blue razz more than some dead people I know.

8:58Joanne McNally:If they didn't make it taste like dessert. Do you know, like, whose idea? It's the adult equivalent of Alco Pops. I know friends smoking, or vaping, who never smoked in their lives. I have friends now on the, what's that stuff called? not the snuff that stuff that you put in your gum oh yeah what's that that's disgusting what's that

9:17Vogue Williams:the little hamster pouches yes

9:19Joanne McNally:the little the little the little bags of shit that they put in their gum

9:22Vogue Williams:but you just see that bag of shit hanging around all their spit up there it's revolting it's a I'd rather a vapour than a bag of spit

9:30Joanne McNally:a minty bag of saliva that they stuff in their gum and it erodes your teeth it erodes the or not your teeth it erodes the gum will it make you feel

9:39Vogue Williams:better about vaping snuff

9:41Joanne McNally:She says it's called snus. Snus.

9:44Vogue Williams:Is that right? Is it called snus? Oh, snus is that bad thing.

9:46Joanne McNally:I have friends snusing who never so much as lifted a cigarette their whole lives and now they're snusing.

9:52Vogue Williams:Will I tell you, will it make you feel better at vaping? I have a cousin.

9:57Joanne McNally:Yeah, because I'm staring at it here and I want a reason to pick it up. I have a cousin who gets through

10:02Vogue Williams:three vapes a day. I was like, I googled it. I was like, do you know how many cigarettes that equates to? And he's like, I don't care. I don't care. and then he gave up for a while and he was so smug and then he took it up again. Oh my God. I know.

10:16Joanne McNally:I am shocked. Yeah. Yeah, it's so addictive and the problem is you can do it anywhere. It's not like, you can't whip out a fag, do you know what I mean, in your local restaurant. And we're not condoning,

10:27Vogue Williams:yeah, we're not condoning vaping because like it really, it is, it is really bad for you but they shouldn't be allowed to make stuff that is so nice and looks so good that it's not good for us. Like just, It isn't nice and it doesn't look good. And it carries significant health risks.

10:44Joanne McNally:Very significant health risks. I'll never forget watching Philip Schofield

10:52Vogue Williams:pulling the tail off a vape in his interview.

10:56Joanne McNally:Do you remember?

10:57Vogue Williams:He put me off it a bit. He did. He put me off it a little bit.

11:00Joanne McNally:I mean, the mom was on the edge and the vaping made it very, very clear. I mean, it is, you know, it doesn't, It doesn't ooze mental stability when you're vaping that much.

11:11Vogue Williams:I'll tell you what happened to me, why I had to go off the vapes and why they actually are so bad. I started hearing like a little crackle in my throat. And it was from vaping. And I was like, oh my God, if I'm hearing that. And I wasn't vaping like it. I wasn't like Philip Schofielding it or anything like that. I was just like a regular vapor. But I was like, oh my God, that crackling is from the vaping. and if it's doing that to my throat, what the hell is it doing to the rest of my body?

11:36Joanne McNally:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:38Vogue Williams:I miss it, RIP, but it's just like, I've grieved for it. We're choosing health. And it's done. We're choosing health.

11:45Joanne McNally:I've had enough of my shit. She's choosing health.

11:47Vogue Williams:She's aged 30 seconds ago.

11:49Joanne McNally:Yes, but I've decided now, from now on, I'm choosing health. There's never, it's always, you can always start again. Sorry.

11:57Vogue Williams:That's how life and health works. You can always just start again. The camera, the camera's following you, by the way. Sorry, Jo, I can see you doing it.

12:06Joanne McNally:She's trying to hide under the table on the camera. This is why I don't use these cameras. It's weird, Jo. Geri, just for reference, the liver rejuvenates, okay? It builds itself back up from scratch.

12:20Vogue Williams:Yeah, but you have to stop. And the lungs. If you stop vaping now, your lungs will go back to that lovely pink colour and you won't have the black lung anymore.

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13:03Vogue Williams:You and your gardening journey, it is one of my favourite parts of your new content.

13:10Joanne McNally:I know you're going to say, the flower that grew itself out the back. No.

13:15Vogue Williams:It's a weed, first of all.

13:16Joanne McNally:It's not a weed. It's not a weed. It's not a weed. It's not a weed. I have an app now where you can... It's called... The app is, I don't know, it's What the Fuck Is That Flower or something. And you can take a photo of the flower. and it so basically I went to do my morning lap of the garden the other morning and yo like a mirror like a sphinx from the ashes there is a stunning stunning flower that has just popped up overnight like a chin hair do you know those do you know those chin hairs they just arrive they just arrive fully grown like fully fledged and ready to be platted you're like what did the app say it was?

13:50a thistle right

13:52Joanne McNally:there you are I don't Is a thistle not a weed? Who are we to say? A thistle is a weed.

14:00Vogue Williams:The gardening community decided you're just jumping on board. I wasn't saying about that anyway. Joe Lyson sent you a rose plant and Joanne said it's been damaged on the way here. All the bits are missing. I was like Joanne that's been dead headed so that the roses grow back. And she's like it's been damaged. I thought it was so good. I was like oh my god.

14:24Joanne McNally:She really doesn't know anything. I sent a photo to Jo and I said, look, it's been destroyed in transit. It's got no flowers on it. I know, I didn't have a clue. I also said I was going to bury it in the garden. I was like, no, Joanne, you plant, you plant it.

14:42Joanne McNally:Why do they deadhead things though? I don't understand. Because then it grows back

14:46Vogue Williams:and the heads are dead and they take them off and then they grow back in the next season. Like if you get a lovely, you could get a beautiful hydrangea bush out the front and then you could you cut off the hydrangeas

14:56Joanne McNally:I think you'll have found it's hydrangea but according to my what the fuck is that plant app thank you it's a hydrangea I'll be doing my own gardening from now on I've really taken to it like a duck to water have you yeah it looks fucking overgrown actually

15:12Vogue Williams:it's not overgrown it's growing it's overgrown I'm going to send you a strimmer okay no strimming when you've had a drink that would actually be great

15:22Joanne McNally:that would actually be great I wouldn't mind a streamer actually I could see myself streaming of an evening I think I'd find that quite therapeutic now also I am turning into Larry David I've beefed with my bin men now it's way too early in the day I wouldn't mess with the bin men oh my god I know I know I know get out there I know they can turn your life

15:47Vogue Williams:upside down

15:48Joanne McNally:oh I know Jo oh I know and the look of so basically whatever my bin was allegedly allegedly contaminated allegedly overfilled I don't even want to know her

15:58Vogue Williams:if this is happening this could seep into our lives Jo like the whole bin man community might turn against all of us because her she's the weed not us

16:08Joanne McNally:I went out I went out this morning excuse me excuse me yeah I went full Karen now I don't actually agree with the Karen thing I think it's just another way to silence women but I went out and I was like what's the crack he was like read the instructions I was like okay okay okay because I was like I really don't want to anger this man but I don't understand. There's like a thesis online about what you can put in the bins and what you can't and they're like the bin has to face a certain way and don't put it out at this time and needs to be facing the sun and blah, blah, blah. Like it's rubbish.

16:35Joanne McNally:No?

16:36Vogue Williams:She's mixing up her gardening and her bins now.

16:39Joanne McNally:It's rubbish.

16:41Vogue Williams:It's like it's just more rubbish. There's certain days you have to put it in certain bags and like it is confusing but they're picking up a lot of bins every day and I would just like to say I think they're doing a fantastic job I know exactly what you're doing they're doing I know exactly what you're doing brilliant well done I'm very happy with my bin situation and thank you you're a little lick ass I know exactly

17:01Joanne McNally:what you're doing look I'm not going down with her I only sent Sven

17:06Vogue Williams:I sent Sven a message this morning I left to go to Lorraine really early and I'm waiting to hear them I sent him a message and I said babe sorry can you fix the bins they're all over the place I made him go outside and tidy the bins this morning because they were good

17:20Joanne McNally:Because you're terrified. Because you're terrified. Because you're terrified. I am. The bin men are basically like, if the bin isn't facing like 68 degrees west and 38 degrees north, and it isn't put out between 605 and 703. Sorry, if your bins have rubbish in it. Sorry, we're not taking them. We're just taking empty bins.

17:40Vogue Williams:I'm staying out of this conversation. So is Jo. You keep digging that hole over there.

17:44Joanne McNally:Now I've had to hire someone else privately to go and take them.

17:49Vogue Williams:Shut up Yeah You've gone private Private bin care I've gone private

17:55Joanne McNally:Yeah I've gone private You're looking at A Christmas tip

18:01Vogue Williams:Of about 500 quid To get them back on side

18:04Joanne McNally:I've just moved in There's obviously Some excessive rubbish And then And then I googled My county council And rubbish And I was like This is obviously An ongoing issue And I found an article In the Spectator About someone A journalist who left their mop handle, not even the head, the mop handle out the front. Three weeks, the rubbish man came, took everything, just refused to take the mop handle. And then they had to ring the council and pay an extra£20 for a bulky rubbish removal.

18:30Vogue Williams:Is everyone okay? There is nothing. And do you know what I will complain about? Everyone just fucks their Christmas trees on the street, just anywhere. There's just trees, dead trees everywhere. Like, who's getting them? But I will say, What would you say? There's only certain things that they'll pick up. And Joanne, it sounds like you've been fly tipping. Between that and...

18:53Joanne McNally:No, but I will start. I can't be fusing with these men. It's too soon.

19:00Vogue Williams:Do you see all those videos of people like, come back and get your rubbish or I'm going to take this to the police fly tippers. Joanne's going to be on that next. You wait.

19:08Joanne McNally:I tell you, I'm shook. It's to my core. She's fine now because she's moved to an insurance-based bin healthcare system.

19:14Vogue Williams:I've moved private.

19:15Joanne McNally:I've gone private, Joe. gone private between that and the gardening I was like wow Joanne you need to check yourself you are a 43 year old woman not a 78 year old man round your neck in round your neck in I might cut the thistle off and give it to them as a present tomorrow oh here's a weed for collecting my bins thank you and the look when he said to me you want to see the joy in his eyes when he was like it's contaminated like he was absolutely thrilled that once again he wasn't taking them is it three weeks this is going on three weeks

19:45Vogue Williams:oh my god I did notice your bins last time I was there they were full they were full yes

19:49Joanne McNally:and they're fuller now because I'm scrapping with your man

19:54Vogue Williams:bins are real they're a real bone of contention like at my house in Hoth if we like at Christmas like I have to I have to bribe my mum and Neil to take some of my bins because they live in an apartment block and Naomi Naomi is such a geek she won't take even like a shoebox because I'm like put them in your apartment block bins and they're like you can't do that you're not allowed I'm like you live there like a month of the year like surely you can like overload on that month

20:17Joanne McNally:well let me be an example to everyone you can't these men are fascists they're driving around well that's it they are I'm telling you now Jo it's gone private for the rest of her life I've gone private you're never coming back now I can't deal with this I cannot be dealing with this wheeling this shit in and out every week like I'm doing some sort of test I would have passed my driver's license quicker than this anyway

20:43Vogue Williams:Well speaking of Cairns and I know that we don't like the word Cairns I found myself being a bit of one this week but I don't know I think I've just I think this or like I was always wondering when I'd feel like I'd gotten old I thought staying in at night and not going to gigs We're not old Well We're in our prime I saw this teenager right when I dropped the kids to school there's another school near near their school and I saw this teenager pick up a parking ticket from one car and place it on the other and I said excuse me excuse me you're to get that barking ticket and put it back on the original car or that person's going to get charged double for what you've done put it back and I stood there and watched him do it and I wouldn't leave until he did it

21:23Joanne McNally:do you know what Vogue I actually love this for you because I'm like six minutes older than you there's been a lot of three years actually three years there's been six minutes a lot of shtick directed towards me over the years about that I'm some sort like this is an age gap friendship in a way do you know what I mean that this is like an age gap friendship where we're like teaching each other about our generational differences. So to see you hit your middle age with such stride and gusto I'm absolutely thrilled. I'm thrilled. It did.

21:56Vogue Williams:That's what it felt like. It felt like middle age and I just stood there like an absolute annoyance to that teenager who's like this stupid rso.

22:04Joanne McNally:You're like I don't care if no one fancies me anymore I'm going to make my point. And did he swap it back? He did yeah. But I was just thinking

22:11Vogue Williams:that person won't know they've gotten a ticket and then the ticket like it doubles it trebles all that kind of shit

22:17Joanne McNally:that's carnage I'd have the child arrested

22:25Vogue Williams:I cannot go any further please please don't please please don't say we have to talk about it again I can't bear this I cannot this is you know what you wouldn't let me you made me stop talking about the Kardashians a couple of years ago right I know I sneak in the odd one it was almost every episode in fairness It was out of control. Joanne, this is out of control. This is enough. What is?

22:46Joanne McNally:Lee Andrews has a full head of hair. So Lee Andrews. You're keeping them afloat. This is your fault.

22:58Joanne McNally:I've paid for the transplant somehow. Lee Andrews has re-emerged on the internet. Lee Andrews, husband of Katie Price, who says he was abducted and held at gunpoint and then he came out that he was in prison and he said he was taken at the Oman Oman Oman and Qatar border which a follower flagged there is no border between those two countries has re-emerged now with a video to let us all know he is healthy and he is back in the land of the living and the big difference is and he's not referencing at all he went when we last saw Lee and listen I'm not slagging I think men and their hair I think it's a sensitive topic and I feel bad for a lot of men that they lose their hair so young and I think it's I think Joe you're very very lucky you're very you're actually a show off Joe I know I'm very lucky that that toupee looks legit because you have a fucking gray head of hair I pay a lot for this you pay a lot for it but he went in with a couple of stragglers that he was kind of brushing to work towards as some sort of kind of comb over situation he has now re-emerged from being held hostage allegedly in a Dubai prison with a full head of hair like it's practically a fringe like he could he could plait it he could bun it folks I assume you've seen the growth?

24:10Vogue Williams:I I assume this was

24:15Joanne McNally:I assume this was your only story on the round today. It's the only news

24:21Vogue Williams:that matters. Once when I saw your post today I was like I literally my eyes went straight to the back of my head I was like fuck for sake that's my morning gone. How long have you spent on this? Did you leave your night out early?

24:38Joanne McNally:I've been up since six. to keep an eye on the... I've been up since six to deal with the bin man, so I've been... It's been six years.

24:44Vogue Williams:Do you want lurking at the door waiting for the bin man?

24:47Joanne McNally:Trying to check the follicle count on Lee Andrew's head. Like, is it a weave? Is it AI? Is it a toupee? Is it someone's head who looks like he's drawing it on? The mystery continues. No reference to it. It's so new. It's like it's still got its tag on it. It's quite something. Okay, do you feel better now? I do. I just want to say, as someone who's struggling about to grow my own hairline back. I would like to do a bit of time in the Dubai prison as well if that's the result.

25:17Vogue Williams:Okay, it's out of my system. Okay, we've got it. We've got it. We did it. And I didn't have to say anything so I'm okay. I feel okay. You feel okay. I feel fine. I saw the most... Okay, I invested too much of my time into this but I found it fascinating. Who has heard of the Putney pusher?

25:36Joanne McNally:I know exactly what you're going to say.

25:38Vogue Williams:I have been advised by our lawyers that you must tread very carefully with this one. We have lawyers. Yeah. We're treading. Tread away. They're meant to be for the entirety of Global Pods, but they just work exclusively on us. All of your legal language needs to be employed here. Okay, allegedly. It says here it was reported that.

26:01Joanne McNally:Tread the tea this way, please.

26:03Vogue Williams:Okay, I'll tell you what the putting pusher is, first of all. In 2017, in May, a jogger was running along a path in Putney on the bridge and he just shoved this woman into the road in a random attack. No, it's not allegedly, Jo, because that's on camera. That did happen, Jo. Yes.

26:23Joanne McNally:That's like saying the earth is flat. Like this actually happened. Allegedly. The earth is flat, allegedly. No, this happened.

26:31Vogue Williams:So he pushed this woman in a random attack into the path of a bus. now the woman's head was right where the bus's front wheel was and the bus driver thank god stopped the bus in time she's so lucky I know but it's nine years right they've been looking for this fella nine years and no one and you know the way there's CCTV and it's like somebody must know who this person is like you have to like I know what Spenny's wearing when he's going out jogging not much but I know that it was him like you'd

27:03Joanne McNally:pecks of Kimbo off he goes he's running in slow-mo in his own hat

27:09Vogue Williams:he was coming to the doctor with me yesterday and I was like are you sorry are you wearing that to the doctor and he goes yeah I'm going running after and I was like Sven go into the hospital like that that's really embarrassing for me for God's sake anyway so nine years later they have identified who they think the Putney pusher is now it's a banker he comes from a£1.4 million house I saw that I don't know why we need to know that but it does make a difference for some reason. It does, yeah. It does. These are only, now what I will say is news reports are saying that it is him but the police have not yet come out and said that this is the person that like this person has been charged with something but they haven't come out to say that he was charged with this.

27:52Joanne McNally:Vogue, you're not going to like what I have to say. It's not AI, is it? No, no, no, no, no. It's real. Let the record show these police have been searching for this man for the guts of 10 years. Yeah. Katie Price gave up searching for her husband after five days I'm just saying it let the record show five days for Katie Price looking for her husband ten years for the police looking for this man now in fairness this man has done something awful I remember there was a story recently where it wasn't recently it was a couple of years ago a woman on the road shooed a bike off a footpath into traffic and the woman was killed and the woman who pushed her is in prison now and was done for attempted murder

28:33Vogue Williams:Wow Yeah It's like you know those people who push people in front of the tube and everything like that does happen that's why I'm like way far behind the yellow line just in case someone gives me an old shove My God

28:45Joanne McNally:There was actually a podcast I randomly came across I think it was an RTU podcast about an Irish man who was doing that for years in the 80s in London He was a homeless man who was brought in for something else and ended up admitting he'd killed like several just absolute random standing at the tube and he just pushed them in front I know I am up against the wall

29:10Vogue Williams:that is a terrible way to go as well but it was like that like so they found him anyway I'm interested to see what actually happens to him but I just can't believe that he's finally been found what does the news say? he was arrested on Monday on suspicion of attempted grievous bodily harm while in police custody he was further arrested on suspicion of possession of class A and class B drugs oh I mean he's a banker, come on. Like that's not the most shocking part.

29:37Joanne McNally:This economy is fueled by cocaine. Let's be real.

29:40Vogue Williams:I do think though that it's like it's kind of really embarrassing. Like imagine that. Embarrassing. It's more than embarrassing. I know, but now everybody knows you're a psychopath. It was like, did you ever see that woman before and she was walking by this person's house and there was a cat and the cat went up to her to get pet. Yes. And she just put the cat in the bin and then people found out who she was and she went viral for putting the cat in the bin and she was like, Oh, I don't know what came over me. It was just a joke. It was a joke. You put a cat in the bin as a joke. And close the lid.

30:09Vogue Williams:Lol. The mad thing is I guarantee that that woman will have received more public hatred than this man will for what he...

30:16Joanne McNally:Do you reckon? Yeah, because it's women. Animals in it and a woman. Yeah, animals. Yeah, women and women in general. But do you know that she's resurfaced now saying that that video ruined her life?

30:27Vogue Williams:Yeah. Well, she shouldn't be putting cats in the bin.

30:29Joanne McNally:I know. But you're right, Jo. I guarantee he won't get as much shit

30:33Vogue Williams:But my thing is Imagine you had married this man And you didn't know that he was the putney pusher And then someone's turned up to your house In the middle of the night And they're like Oh by the way Your husband's like done this You'd be like Oh my god

30:46Joanne McNally:Would you rat me out If I'd done something insane like that

30:50Vogue Williams:I am I'm 40 years old I still rat my siblings out to my parents I can't help it Like if Amber does something She's like don't tell mum I'd be straight on to my mum I'm like, Mom, don't tell Amber I told you this.

31:01Joanne McNally:Good for you.

31:03Vogue Williams:There's no loyalty between siblings. It's like everyone's going under the bus at once. Everyone's trying to get to that pole position, to be honest. I've been there for a while. It's been nice because I spent many a year down. I wasn't even on the podium for many years of my life. And now that I'm in pole position, I just, I enjoy it up there. And did you see that other thing? Well, you did because I saw that you posted as well. The girl who got thrown off. Stop.

31:28Joanne McNally:Oh. just tossed to her death it's insane the Brazilian it wasn't like the whatever it's not a bungee jump it's a bridge jump or whatever bridge jump it doesn't matter like not even the suggestion of a rope I don't get it the rope wasn't even it's not even like they put a rope on her and then the rope wasn't attached to something else

31:47Vogue Williams:nothing so the girl was this girl was going for a bungee jump in Brazil where they throw you off basically like a kind of bridge and like three men basically picked her up as they did with everybody else who would come along and threw her off the bridge and then realised that they had forgotten to attach the rope. So she fell like 150 feet to her death but I heard she didn't die straight away. Yeah, she was,

32:06Joanne McNally:I know.

32:07Vogue Williams:God, it's just like, imagine, just because it's such safety now, it didn't look

32:12Joanne McNally:that safe now. But it's literally like, imagine you trying to charge your phone and I handed you a phone and a plug with no wire. At what point would you not realise there was, you'd be like, there's no wire. Like, it's, it's, it's, how do three men not really. There was no rope on her.

32:29Vogue Williams:They must have spent time harnessing her up. Oh, I don't know. I just, I just, it's shocking. And it kind of makes you think, like, this is where I go conspiracy theory, by the way, this has not been publicized or anything. I'm like, did somebody have something against this girl that they just decided, oh, well, like, imagine you knew her ex-fella or something like that and you're like, oh, well, we'll show her. Like, it was just such an insane act that it's like,

32:52Joanne McNally:Yeah, but, I think if you're going to try and, like, get revenge on someone by having them killed. You wouldn't do it so publicly. I guess there's all these conspiracies kicking off that it's something to do with your man Oliver Tree and Brazil and the helicopter crash and all this. I think it was just really fucking, I think it was just pure negligence. Pure negligence. This is why, I'm telling you now, and I know there's billions of people throwing themselves off all sorts of shit every day safely. It's the same with flying. I would never, never.

33:21Vogue Williams:I've done, I've done a bungee jump but I did one off like a crane at a Bear Grylls thing. Yeah. It's not even fun enough for me to be like, oh, I'd like to do it. Like, I'll never ever do it again. I don't know why anybody would want that kind of like a thrill seeker, but it's people who like...

33:35Joanne McNally:I'm not a thrill seeker. I'm a relaxer.

33:38Vogue Williams:I'm a relaxer. Like that fella who's climbing up the buildings and everything. What's his name? Alex Connacht or something. Is that his name?

33:45Joanne McNally:Did you see the guy in Afghanistan died as well? This like Spider-Man they called him. The Spider-Man of Afghanistan. He was like, a lot of death at the moment. But then I realised, it's just your algorithms honey you've just gone down a really dark road

33:56Vogue Williams:but you ever hear the Darwin Awards I think we did something like where people are put up for the most embarrassing deaths of the year I was reading a couple of them and there was one about this man the man and wife and he wanted to see if a bullet would go through like five phone books so he put five phone books up to his chest and his wife shot him and it went through all the phone books and threw his chest and he died. So he's up for a Darwin Award. Another lad saw a grenade on the ground and wanted to see if it was live or not. So drove over it and then blew himself up.

34:33Joanne McNally:I mean, it's bad. It's bad enough being dead without being ridiculed for the way you did it. Do you know what I mean? I know. Yeah, a bit of dignity. Terrible. I could see me making that list.

34:52Joanne McNally:Tyra Banks

34:53Vogue Williams:oh god

34:54Joanne McNally:is suing Netflix

34:56Vogue Williams:what you say oh god to this you didn't even give that much guff to Lee Andrews

35:00Joanne McNally:you didn't even care the folk tried to drown herself as a child you didn't even make a say allegedly

35:04Vogue Williams:because there's no legal ramifications to that but once again we're back in lawyer territory now so I have to be I have to be so careful by the way because like I have I made a joke on this podcast and there's an entire article made out of that joke. And I said to Jo, I was like, did I say this? I don't even remember you saying that. Neither do I. And then I read the article. But like, I knew there were articles coming out about something else. And I was like, I'm not even going to bother saying anything back to that because it's so stupid and so made up and it's come from nowhere. But then they followed up with the thing that we made a joke about in the pod.

35:36Vogue Williams:And I'm like, this sounds like I'm like desperate to get in touch.

35:41Joanne McNally:No, I read. It did read. It was a weird read. I just saw the caption. I was like, what? Because I assumed it was either from this pod or the pod you do with Amber. And then I was like, it's probably our pod because it sounds more like us. Sounds like us, yeah. But it was pretty hard. I was like, wow, it wasn't, it was, it was meant in jest.

35:59Vogue Williams:It was a big business in deliberately ignoring the fact that people do it. And if you see the amount of comments then that are left, I'm like, okay, that's how I gauge why they're writing things. I'm like, okay, they're writing it because they got a lot, they got a lot of clickbait and that and I don't dare I don't dare to open that can of worms because I don't want to see what people are saying. You're a clickbait bitch.

36:20Joanne McNally:People love to click on your face. I mean if anything I would take it I'd be proud of yourself. But that aside Tyra Banks is suing. Now the America's Next Top Model the series that came out was quite shocking and it was kind of like a takedown of the series at the time and how there was like no duty of care to the contestants and how one of the girls was saying she was S8 and no one in the team did anything about it and how she, and then there were kind of, a lot of it was like blaming Tyra. And Tyra did not come across well in the documentary. Let's be real. She didn't come across well. She came across as kind of very, there was no accountability taken.

36:55Joanne McNally:She was like, it is what it is. And in fairness, they also did give a good account of what she'd done for like plus size women and diversity and plus size women and how she was kind of repping all that in the beauty industry that hadn't been repped before. But she didn't come across great. And now she's suing them for defamation saying that she did a three hour interview and they deduced it down to 16 minutes where they basically mugged her off. It was kind of like us on Gogglebox.

37:26Vogue Williams:Come on, when you're doing a TV show and you're recording for that long, you know that you're like, it wasn't a three hour show on Tyra Banks. She knows this is a Netflix special. What was it, like an hour and a half long? Like, you signed a waiver. You said that you were going to go and chat to stuff. Like, people can be edited in different ways I understand that but like at the end of the day they were talking about like specific points during the show and they were using her stuff from her interview about those specific points and all mashed up together did they look great? No they looked terrible and she did come across really badly she didn't come across like she had much regret or anything like that and I'd say that it has been detrimental to her career

38:08Joanne McNally:and stuff like that. Well she's saying not not only to her career, but to her ice cream shop, Smize and Dream has been negatively affected. She says people are review bombing the ice cream shop.

38:21Vogue Williams:I do, I disagree with that now. I hate when people do that because I just think it's like, it's a level of cruelty that that's like, it's hard to get rid of reviews like that. Especially if it's a, if it's a nice business,

38:33Joanne McNally:it's just been a dick. She's saying that they basically said she didn't miss, she didn't visit Miss J. Is it Miss J? Miss J

38:41Vogue Williams:yes she didn't visit but that she says she has tried to make contact and she's using the fact that she lives in Australia as a bit of an excuse well I mean it is I know but Miss J kind of has said that she hasn't been been in touch you know and she hasn't been a friend so you can't just say

38:58Joanne McNally:like like you'd FaceTime you'd throw in a Zoom you'd Zoom

39:02Vogue Williams:but also it's Netflix like Netflix are not going to leave themselves open for somebody to be able to sue them over a show. They know exactly what they're doing. They're a huge organisation. I just can't imagine anything is going to come of it.

39:17Joanne McNally:Look at Baby Reindeer. Yeah, but she didn't get anything. Nothing happened with that. Did she not?

39:23Vogue Williams:No, no.

39:24Joanne McNally:I bet that's still in the courts.

39:25Vogue Williams:No, she won't. She sent him like 50 ,000 messages.

39:29Joanne McNally:I know, I know. You did do it. She was, oh no, she absolutely did it. But she was very identifiable. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also think there's an irony in Tyra saying, firstly, she's like, I was producer on the show. I kind of invented this vehicle and I brought all this like positive energy towards modelling and kind of like recalibrated the modelling industry. But then in the same breath, she's like, but I have no responsibility for anything that happened in the show. Like she's kind of taking responsibility, giving it back. She's also giving out about being a manipulative edit, which is basically what the show, what also the show the show did as well it's very pot cattle feels very pot cattle but I'm sorry for I'm sorry for Smize and Dreams

40:16Vogue Williams:Smize and Dreams so she's living she's living in Australia now she is

40:20Joanne McNally:yes yeah what's she doing out there

40:22Vogue Williams:that's a bit random isn't it she's

40:24Joanne McNally:she's Smize and Dreams she's Smize and Dreams she's dreaming

40:27Vogue Williams:she's Smize and Dreaming

40:29Joanne McNally:she's Smize and Dreaming so we'll be we'll keep an eye and see where this story goes

40:32Vogue Williams:did you see your man in another one another Australian one he basically it's like a it's like a soap opera it's the new home and away this man walked into his bedroom and he was recording on his phone and he found his wife in bed with his son the wife is 38 year old a 38 year old woman and she was sleeping with the 19 year old stepson but since that has come out she has said they've all been at war with each other over social media the dad is absolutely raging with the son wants something to do with him well yeah once you've heard him. You'd be fuming. Fuming. But she says that they were broken up.

41:13Vogue Williams:I mean, it makes no difference. Like, he can't be, he can't be going after his son after you've just been with him.

41:18Joanne McNally:I saw that footage and similar to the, God, that poor woman who was thrown off that bridge. I thought this was, not AI, sorry. I thought the woman who was thrown off the bridge was AI. It took me ages to figure out that was real. Yeah. But this, I thought was, it felt staged to me.

41:34Vogue Williams:Yeah. No, it's real. It's real. Are you sure? Yeah, it's all over Australian news. Yeah, it's like a seriously, it's like a live soap opera, as I said. It's just, I mean, you couldn't forgive. You couldn't forgive your son. Could you? Even if he didn't fancy her anymore.

41:50Joanne McNally:All is fair in love and war.

41:51Vogue Williams:I mean, she's worse, obviously. She should really not be sleeping with the son. Come on, choose one.

41:56Joanne McNally:You can't have both. All is fair in love and war. What's the age difference? Is it significant like you and me?

42:01Vogue Williams:It's not, no, it's, yeah. Well, it's not that big a gap. but she's 38 and he's 19.

42:08Joanne McNally:Okay, so they're closer in age than you and I are. Okay, good to know. That's helpful.

42:14Vogue Williams:Yeah, isn't that a mad story though? Imagine competing with your children for a partner.

42:19Joanne McNally:Well, he's not competing because he's lost. Oh God. He's lost. I would say that goes on more than we would be aware of, if you know what I mean. I would say there's so much going on behind closed doors in families and stuff. also this woman I mean the father should take it as a compliment because the son probably is similar to him so maybe she's heartbroken and she's like all I have is this you know on sale version which is the younger version of the man I'm in love with and I'm going to shag his son I don't know I'm trying to be positive it's my new thing I mean

42:50Vogue Williams:it could be worse though you hear people being with their cousins and stuff like that and you hear about adopted children getting with their parents because they they it was one time

42:59Joanne McNally:one time and I told you that in confidence I told you that in confidence but you do you hear that this is why I've stopped answering the phone to you because I can't trust you anymore

43:18Vogue Williams:with any luck now that will make the Daily Mail yeah

43:22Joanne McNally:I still I still touch wood and thank god and all the rest three knocks and seven magpies they've no interest in me it's still you

43:33Vogue Williams:the traders is coming my friend I want nothing to do I don't want to be known to be with Joanna if the bin men find out we're alliances I'm in big trouble that is a problem by next week let's make amends with the bin men lingerie a croissant a can of coke and a croissant

43:55Joanne McNally:500 quid

43:57Vogue Williams:500 quid would work as well

43:59Joanne McNally:and a laced tit no just the cash a croissant Vogue no no no you don't understand the beef is beefing like a croissant isn't going to fix it I know but as soon as

44:08Vogue Williams:you give money you're going to like what are you going to give them for Christmas and stuff like that you know what I mean more money it's tough more money yeah

44:16Joanne McNally:you're so right you're so right I need to be really careful about my next step my next step I need to be really careful about it or I'm going to end up having to give them 10 grand at Christmas just to get them to pick up like one black bag.

44:30Vogue Williams:This sounds like one of our emails, by the way. Do get back to us and let us know how you get on, okay?

44:35Joanne McNally:I will. No, I will. I'll keep you informed. Yeah. Keep me an on, please. Do you keep me an on?

44:44Vogue Williams:Thank you, everybody, for listening. Joe's hand is about to fall off because he keeps waving. He's waving. He's trying to make us shut up. We have very much enjoyed that and please keep sending your emails in to...

44:55Joanne McNally:Hello at mtgmpod.com. Also, do you know, we should put the like and subscribe thing at the top of the that's what other people do they put it at the top of the podcast okay please like and subscribe well no I think you need a bit more charm than that

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