Best NFL Offseason Advice, Kelce Mock Drafts, and Dumb Questions with a Salary Cap Expert | EP 134

26:38I'm a team spirit kind of guy. You are, dude. You just lifted my spirit by saying that. All I want to do is, like, how can we make the experience better on game day? Are you just going to be the mascot? I don't want to be the mascot I want to be I want to give resources to the student section to just have a fucking fun ass time You would be a fucking stud as a mascot, dude Before we get out of off-season we did have one voicemail Before we get out of off-season I teed it up, I got it, I nailed it Are you being recorded right now? Yeah You record yourself? I record myself and I watch it back I grind tape Hey guys, so I'm calling on behalf of my friend Angela and the Touchstones and C, our SWIFTY group, and she wanted to ask about how rookies and veterans handle the oxygen differently and how they, like, just give, and if you had any advice to give to the rookies that came in to, like, don't do anything dumb.

27:44So, yeah. Yeah, so basically, what do you what would you do differently from when you were a rookie to like now obviously having the experience for both of you I guess alright thank you they stand go Chief not so much Eagles and Gold Colts thank you alright well fuck off Jesus not so much Eagles it's a great question I think that it definitely changes as you get older one of the things that changes is that you just have to do more stuff the older you get to like get ready to go. It's just trying to maintain the peak athleticism that you got and you got to find that routine. You can't do as much workload because your body can't handle as much and then you can't just get into it.

28:34You got to warm up more. So it just becomes harder to finish. I mean, it just becomes harder and it becomes more of a grind, to be honest with you. Like getting old and trying to play in the NFL becomes really, really hard to navigate from like a body and like a, like a physicality. Warm up counts as the workout. Now I never, dude, when I was young, I didn't warm up much at all. Just fucking put the shoes on. Let's go. Put the weight on the bar and let's go, baby. I got to do fucking floor exercise. I got to do calisthenics. I got to put this lacrosse ball into my tailbone. Otherwise I can't fucking squat.

29:10Dude. It's the reality of it. so I think you got to do more soft tissue stuff, which I, I always hated soft tissue. I never understood why people did it. And then you get older and you're like, Oh, this is why people do soft tissue stuff. You know, I'm still not a big stretcher. And I think that that's hurting me a lot, but it's so hard to get on the page with that. Why is it so hard, Jason? Cause I just like, I don't believe in stretching and I think I need to start. I think I need to start. What are you a flat earther? I don't believe in it. I think it's bad for muscle elasticity to do like static stretching.

29:46I'm a functional movement stretcher by nature. Yeah, but stretching, stretching, whether you're static or functional. I hear you. No, but I need to do the stuff that's like I need my ass and back to relax. And I need to do like just this over and over again and sit in stretch poses. And I just can't get to it. No, I'm out. I think the biggest thing is as you get older, you just realize kind of what works. and you get into a routine and you become much more efficient at working out. When you're younger, you're a kid in a candy shop. You're trying everything. You're hearing stuff from people that are doing stuff over here, different veterans that you're leaning on, trainers and coaches, and you're more kind of all over the place with your training.

30:30And once you've done that enough as a player, I think you fall in line to like, this is what works for me. This is what I respond really well with and what gets me to play the best. And then you hit another phase of your career where like, oh, what I've been doing for the last like 10 seasons. Now I need to do all this other stuff. And that's when it becomes really hard because you have to like do all these other things so that your body still can do the things that it once did. And that's where the kind of progression for me, at least it was in my career. I think, yeah, you hit it on the head.

31:05when you're a rookie, you can just get up and go. And on top of that, I kind of, I don't know. My first couple of years, I was dealing with injuries. So I was in Kansas City and I was working on rehab and I was working on strengthening a lot of things more than I was working on my overall game. You know, everybody's different, but at the same time, we kind of mentioned it before this. You have to find, you have to be real with yourself. You have to be, you know, hard on yourself, your own worst critic on what you got to get better at. and the entire off season, you know, you need that yin and yang of like professional life and, and, and non-professional life and being able to have that happy medium because the grind of the season is six months.

31:52It's a, if you're lucky, it's six months, but it is a six month grind of you're going into the facility, having the same, same exact day, every single Monday, every single Tuesday, every single, you know what I mean? So you want to be able to get away from the game so that it's fresh when you come back in and you're and you feel that excitement and motivation like it's the first day of school or something. So I always tell people, be real with yourself, figure out exactly what you need to do, find what find what that means in terms of how you're going to get better at that and achieve that. And then on top of that, get away from the game a little bit.

32:29Yeah. Don't be afraid to go out there and see something you haven't seen before, Or, you know, go to a new place or take that vacation with your family. Go step away. Recharge. Get that going because it's only going to make you work harder and feel more refreshed and ready to go when you come back. Dude, I agree with all that 100%. It was like seven or eight years in a row where I had off-season surgery. It might have been blessings for us because it like, I don't know, man. It like kind of like forces you to not. It forces you to be in the fucking building. I know that. I would have been fucking out of here.

33:06Right, especially as a young player. Man, what? I'm finally, you know, got a dollar in my pocket. I got money, time. I was about to say, as my man Charles Barkley says, bro, you got somebody with the money and time and bad habits. It ain't a matter of if, it's a matter of when. Yeah, Chuck. I love that line. All righty, since we are coming up on the NFL draft, we wanted to do some drafting of our own. That's right. We're back with the New Heights mock draft. The last one I think we did was on Easter candy, it looks like. Damn, that was last year. I know. It's been a while, but happy to be back at it.

33:45I always love doing these. These are fun. Just a reminder, it is snake draft format, which means that one of us will go first, then the other person will go, then that person will go first, then the other person will go, then that person will go first. So it kind of works its way down like a snake. We're going to do five rounds. Topic, bucket list events. These are events that neither of us have been to. So we can't say something like the Masters, which is a lot of people's bucket list event because we've already been there. Got it. All right. I think that makes sense. Do you want to do the honors or shall I?

34:15So the first round obviously has to be like our number one, like the one we desire the most. You want to take something that I can't. Should be your goal here. Gosh. Well, now it's just a game of what does Jason want? I'm going to be playing the same game on your end. You don't fucking know what I want. I want everything. You're right. You're so much more inside of my head than I'm inside of yours. It's ridiculous. What does Jason want to do? No, bucket list item. I'm sorry. Bucket list event. I would say with the first pick of my bucket list event draft, I want to go. That's a lot harder. I should have been writing shit down.

34:57All right, you go first if you have one. Running of the Bulls. I've always wanted to do it. I've wanted to run with the Bulls. This is a huge bucket list item for Jason. All right, now you get to go twice. I don't want to fucking do that. I'm so glad you took that. All right, if you're going to go a random one you want to do, I've always wanted to go to the F1 race in Monaco. Nice. always wanted to do that ever since we were playing those racing games at the arcade. Oh man, those are fun. Gosh, what else are you going with? One you've already done. So I could just wait till the fifth round for that.

35:40That's a good strategy. I'm going with, for my second pick, the Champions League final. I've always wanted to go to a huge soccer game and the best soccer in the world and see the best teams in the world go at it. And yeah, put it on my bucket list. All right. I'm going to ask your help on this next one because I don't know what its name is, but I know you know what the name is because you just watched it on Netflix. What's the horse race that happens in Italy? I don't know. In the streets. Is it the Paialo or something like that? Yeah. Or it might be something like that. I don't know. I think that's wrong.

36:17I don't think you need to say yes. that when you said running the bulls my mind immediately went there all right i'm gonna put that as my second round pick it is that yeah nice you gotta say it jason palio di sienna that doesn't sound right is that it it's 100 it i mean all the everything looks it looked electric as fuck it looked like a great time yeah they're just in the middle of like some italian village i'm fucking so down for that um second i know i get the next pick i get the next pick i'm gonna to steal this one from you because I know you want to do it. I'm going to go to, I don't even know if this is what it's called, whatever the darts international championship is with the British guy saying 180.

37:02I want to go there. I want to go there. That should have been our first. I'm an idiot. All right. Where are you going? PDC world championships. I'm going with motherfucker. What is that shit called? You probably don't even want to do this, but I want to do this. The Ascot races in London. What are those? It's like equivalent to what the derby would be in America. Oh, dude, I am so down for that. What are you talking about? That's what I'm saying. You didn't know about it, though. Oh, I definitely don't know what it is, but I'm in. All right. What's your next pick? What's my next pick? Is it for fourth round?

37:38Fourth round.

37:42oh i've always wanted to go to like the fucking what are they called the uh the the red bull like derby racing the derby carts the where they go off of the uh the edge i forget what it's called as long as possible yes it's i think bo allen did it last year i think they have something like like uh like the x games but for like random events like that i could be wrong about this but Flutag is what that one is called. I think Bo Allen did it last year. All right, I get two more picks. My last two picks. I'm going to go and get into the winter. I'm going Winter Olympics. I've been to the Summer Olympics.

38:19Winter Olympics is high up there. We went to the Winter X Games a few years back, and I'm like, man, this was awesome. I heard something about being in cold that I just love being a part of. So the next one, I'm going and I'm staying cold, and I'm doing the Iditarod. you have to explain it which is it's i think it's the longest like dog racing event in the world and they do like these sled dogs and they got to go all up and down alaska yeah okay remember the movie uh balto no i think something he has something to do with it anyways i'm in on the idea the road nice um i was just gonna say the olympics in general because i haven't been to the olympics but i guess i gotta say the summer olympics it was awesome you're gonna love it when you get to go.

39:05Nice. Well, everybody tell us who won that one or who got the better draft. I was also thinking about Ryder Cup in the Open. Ryder Cup would be electric. I've heard from so many people. And then the Open, I've been to the Masters. I've done the U.S. Open. The Open would be pretty awesome to go over there. Nice. Especially just like St. Andrews or something like that. Damn. Another one for me would be the World Cup. I haven't been to the World Cup yet. I've done that down in Brazil. That was awesome. Big time recommend it. I'll be doing it next year. 2026, Kansas City, Missouri, baby. Let's go.

39:36Is Kansas City a host city? Yeah, it is. So is Philly. How about that? For Kansas City to be, you know what I mean, Midwest town. We had enough stadiums. Shout out to. The Hunts, whoever. The Hunts. Brittany Mahomes has a stadium here as well. What stadium are they playing the games at? Arrowhead, for sure. Not going to lie. I think I won this pretty hands down. running of the bulls is somebody really going to say they'd rather go watch fucking f1 monaco than a bunch of bulls run over people like what person in their right mind doesn't want to see people get decapitated by bulls i don't understand i don't think jason there's like one clip of like the bulls hitting somebody that you see out of your mind i don't think it happens all the time you're it happens every year travis no i know it happens every year but I don't think like bulls are just like mowing down thousands of people.

40:30Like you make it seem like you see one video of it every year and it's like one person gets smoked. I think to part, the fact that you get to participate, but here's the difference. F one Monaco, they put me in an F one car and I'm not going around that track running. Because I'm not an F one driver. I don't drive for team Ferrari. That doesn't mean you can't get in the car and drive. I don't drive. so I can't run in the race. Running in the Bulls, I can just go there. Anybody can go participate in the race. Yeah, you're right. If you're willing to. You're not about to act like I'm a coward because I'm not, I don't want to do that.

41:09I just think it sounds more fun. It sounds way more exciting. You got me on the Palio de Seattle. That shit seems exciting, doesn't it? That looks exciting and it looks fun. And there's a winner. Yeah. All right. What about a darts league versus ask? I'll give you ask. I race. I do want to see the darts league, but ask our races are probably a bigger event. The flu, the flu tag. Winter Olympics. I might've lost the draft on that one, but I do want to do that. It does sound fun. I mean, I want to go. If there's more events around the entire Red Bull stuff that weekend, I don't, I fuck that. Whoever said flu tag, because I said the Red Bull like event.

41:51I just don't know. So how's Accelerator going to feel about you freaking going for a Red Bull? We need to get a fucking event like that. Damn it. And Accelerator uses healthy, not necessarily organic, but natural. Natural. Natural, plant-based. Accelerator uses sustained energy with plant-based thermogenics. Red Bull doesn't fucking do that. They just got a really fucking fun event called the Fluke Tag. Good timing. Good timing. Really just perfect product placement. Cotton candy, baby. We got to do some events with Garage Beer. Garage Beer is like, we got to latch on. I don't know if it's hobby horsing or whatever it is, but let's celebrate people's fandoms, right?

42:43Mm-mm. All right, cool. Well, those are our lists. 92 %ers, let us know your list and who you think wins. Before we get to our convo with the cap expert, time for a couple of no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions. Just dumb people. All right, here we go. Our no dumb question is from Christy. Tay's servant. Okay. If you had to swap lives with one of your podcast guests for 48 hours, who would you pick and what would you do? I got my answer. Who do you got? Well, if you have your answer, why don't you go? Because I don't know my answer yet. My answer is LeBron James because I want to play in the NBA.

43:28I've always wanted to play in the NBA. A dream that I've always had as a kid, and I would love to know what that dream actually feels like. And to be able to jump as high as he can and slam the ball in the basketball hoop as hard as he can, I would also love to know what that feels like as well. Man, are we swapping with them right now or swapping with them in their prime? I think it's right now, bud. Well, if it's right now, I guess probably go Adam Sandler. The Sandman. Probably go Sandman. That's a good one, too. I mean, it's a tough one because I'd go with any of the comedy guys that we've had on because I just think it seems like such fun lives and being able to be creative and bring things to life.

44:09So either him, Will Ferrell, Stiller, any of those guys, Sudeikis. I think, and also like think like that, to have that kind of mind would be fun to think about for 48 hours. If it's anybody in the prime, though, I'm going Arnold. Damn, we've had some guests, man. Arnold in his prime, dude. I mean, it's hard to go. Anything better than that. Just be useful. Be useful, Arnold. All righty. That's it for No Dumb Questions. You can submit no dumb questions in the comments on social or give us a call at 929-399-7260. That's 929-399-7260. It's now time for Dumb Questions with Cap Expert, Jake Rosenberg.

44:55Because there's no such thing as dumb questions unless you're dumb people. Yeah, unless you're us and you're talking to somebody who's an expert. we've always wanted to get to uh talking to some people with actual knowledge in the nfl level to want to expand our knowledge but also for the you 92 percenters out there that want to learn more about the nfl and everything that happens within it so we put a question out to you how many of you would be interested in a salary cap episode there was a lot of interest so we're bringing on a salary cap expert our guest today is former eagles vice president of football administration, Jake Rosenberg.

45:33Welcome, Jake Rosenberg. Yeah, Jake. What's up, Jake? How are we doing? Great. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Welcome to the show, Jake. Please introduce yourself to the 92 %ers. Yeah, what is it? What is your job? What is the VP of a football administration? What does that job title like include? It's a cap guy. Nice. Yeah, I think it probably varies all over the league. For me, I worked real closely with Howie on ultimately, like everything pertaining to the roster, but most importantly, overseeing all the contract negotiations, dealing with all the agents, making sure we were never over the cap, and a lot of the planning on that side.

46:12So I could find anything that involves money in the players, not the business stuff, not budgeting, but just all of the aspects of paying players, negotiating those contracts. Are you excited to make the salary cap fun and interesting for our guests? it's an incredible challenge all right well let's start off with this first question what is the salary cap so the salary cap simply put is just a limit on what every team can spend to pay their players okay now that might sound like a budget except there are rules that differ from a normal budget so there is cash what you pay your players in a given year and then there's the way it's accounted for.

46:57And that's what the salary cap is. That's where we start getting into the fund. How does it differ from accounted for and unaccounted for? There are the easiest, like the most commonly used factors. There's certain ways to pay players like a signing bonus or certain ways to guarantee money. And then that prorates, meaning you split that up equally over the life of the contract. So to make it as simple as possible, if you give a player a$10 million signing bonus, it's a five-year contract. That would count two, two, two, two, two, even though the player got 10. Gotcha. That makes sense. So a player could get 10 in cash, but there's only two accounted for of that signing bonus in a year.

47:44How does that affect how teams navigate what they were allowed to spend within a given year? Within this, there's strategy, right? If you don't use any of that proration, let's say you don't use that at all. You choose to count every single penny you spend on a player in this year and the salary cap for the sake of this exercise, we'll just say is$250 million. you would be limited to spending$250 million paid out to players in a year. However, because you're able to prorate, if you wanted to spend significantly more than$250 million in a year, you could. And teams' desire to spend more and how much more determines their strategy to some extent on how much they want to use that, if that makes sense.

48:37And so as you spend more than the$250 ,000, you're sort of accumulating accounting out into the future. Yeah. Right. Without getting too into the weeds, how do you navigate how much money you're willing to put out into the future? Which player, because all of this money that we just said is prorated. It's essentially guaranteed, even though there's different levels of guarantee. How do you decide how much you're willing to say like, hey, we're going to spend this much in cash, but in the future, this is going to hurt us. versus how much we want to be strict to the budget this year, I guess. This process would vary at different teams, I imagine.

49:16And ultimately, somebody owns the team, and someone is making a determination on how much they are willing to spend in a given year. Even though there's 32 very large, very valuable, five, six billion dollar at a minimum clubs, each owner makes that determination on their own and gives it to their football operation and their general manager cap guy etc would figure out how to do that and how to create a sustainable strategy yeah nice right if that makes sense it does so in terms of the pro rate system a guy signs a 10 million dollars signing bonus they pro rated over the next whatever five years of the contract, 22222, that$10 million is the signing bonus.

50:07So you get it there or do you get paid as the pro rate? Right. The payment of the signing bonus is completely independent of the accounting of the signing bonus. Got you. From a salary cap standpoint? Correct. There are teams who defer signing bonuses, even in cash, out past a year or more. Out past a year? I've never heard of that. That exists. Oh, yeah. Wow. Okay. I mean, I guess one of them would be that happened in baseball with Otani's, right? That's like a whole other level of deferred payment. Otani's, that whole deferral thing, yeah, that's a whole other. We all know what that really is.

50:46Yeah, there's no salary cap in baseball. For sure. So why there's a salary cap is precisely to avoid baseball to a large extent. So who does the cap benefit more? The cap benefit, you're saying more players versus team? Yeah, yeah. Players versus team. Clearly team. I don't think there's a question about that, but I would also say that it also benefits the fans to a large extent because it makes it more fair. If not for a salary cap, not to say this is 100%. It's not the wealthiest owners necessarily are going to spend the most cash. That actually is not really the case, Dallas. Wow. Okay. But I think that it does maintain some competitive balance where if Green Bay would be a smaller market, New York a larger market, it ensures that there's not a huge competitive issue between those teams.

51:40I'll ask this. I'll ask this. This, a lot of this debate came up when the Cincinnati Bengals essentially allocated over what, like$300 million to three players on the offense or more than that, a fuck ton of money to three players on the offense. Yeah. Fuck done. I really want to know when those contracts come out and it hits the TV world and it hits the media world and you see the guarantees and you see how much the cap is and you see what is the most bullshit number that you can see come across your, the ticker. Yeah. The most bullshit, I mean, tied for bullshit because it's basically the same as the average and the total of the deal.

52:24They're nonsense, right? Most of the time. Correct. And the reason that that's all bullshit, it all goes back to one simple thing is that without money explicitly being guaranteed or being negotiated to be guaranteed within the deal, it's not. So when they throw out a total, inevitably, that includes a whole bunch of unguaranteed money, which depending on how far into the future, what type of player, the age of the player, all that may have next to no to no probability that they ever see it. Yeah. How much of these numbers are manipulated by agents and or teams to make it appear publicly like a player is a top ex-paid player, but the reality of such is that it's not that contract?

53:14Teams don't have a lot of incentive to manipulate the numbers, except for to make the player happy. Maybe make them happy, right? Yeah, like you guys made Jason happy his last contract.

53:26Jason, are you saying that your last contract was bullshit? Is that what it would? I'm very happy with the contracts I've signed. I went back and looked. Yeah. We did. We signed, you and I, eight contracts. My name and your name were on together. 2014 court. Yeah, baby. Now you're a rookie deal. That was a year before I got there. That's good shit right there. Shout out to Jay Bernstein, man. One of those deals, I don't know if you remember this. We signed on the hood of my car in the parking lot. That's right. One of my son's baseball practices. Outside of the baseball practice. That's the way Jason does things.

53:56All right. That doesn't. He wears flip-flops in the winter. You know what I mean? He's that kind of guy. He's like, oh, yeah, wherever. I think you're on your way to the airport, and it was like an indoor place. All of a sudden, I hear a few kids and murmurs. They're like, is that Jason Kelsey in the window? And I was like, oh, God. And I ran outside. We signed it on the hood of my car. I remember that. That was awesome. Everyone thinks there's this luxury. They flew Jason in on a plane and he got, you know, walked into the office of the owner. No, just meet me at the ballpark over here while my kid's playing.

54:31That's so funny. So going back to like what you said about the bullshit, because I think this is good to talk about. Yeah. The difference between fully guaranteed, partially guaranteed, and then the complete bullshit that we're talking about makes it like almost impossible to know what the actual deal is unless you know more than just the average and the total. You would have to see legitimately the deal in front of you to know the ins and outs of it. Yeah. When they say fully guaranteed, I think it's safe to say that you, you know, that legitimately is fully guaranteed. But once you get past that, anything goes.

55:09And a lot of times they'll also not even, is it just not guaranteed, but they will include money that is based on incentives. And the incentives could be very practical and possible to something totally ridiculous and out of left field that's even more less likely to be earned than just the salary. Right. What's an example of something that's fully guaranteed, an example of something that would say guaranteed, but really isn't guaranteed? Correct. So this is where we got to be a little careful to not make people's eyes start glazing over here. Fully guaranteed, literally means unless you totally fuck up and like you know where you've done something very wrong and basically your guarantees go away they can't you're going to get that money yeah there's nothing to do with on-field performance this is more like there's something like a crime committed or an injury like a lot of different things suspended for a violation of a bunch of policies like stuff like that yes there's such a thing called injury guarantees right yes injury guarantees if they have no other guarantees that that go with them don't really help all that much injuries because the reality is most players injuries do not last long enough from one season to the next where you can't find a spot where the player's healthy and to cut them so that would be when something just has an injury guarantee it's not all that protective interesting if that makes sense it does yeah when you see average like fans of the nfl on on any of these social medias say that um the cap is not real how close and true is that i think that's more true for some teams than others if that makes sense i think the truth is if all you cared about was winning every game you know was really like winning was singularly the most important thing your owner was committed to spending balls to the wall, crazy cash all the time, and you were just going to be super aggressive, I think that's largely the case.

57:20You may eventually get yourself into some real trouble. Right. But I think for other teams, they don't want to be in that situation. They're a lot more, I don't know, if responsible or cheap. Both of those are words you could use. In the eye of the beholder. If the average fan wants to sound smarter on social media or in conversation, what are the terms that they should be focusing on in learning? There we go. Well, I think anytime they talk about a contract, they should look to see how much is guaranteed because that gives an element of like how authentic those numbers are. Nice. I think they should be careful when you see, just to go back, these big numbers are put out by agents, largely.

58:08And then the agents are in a super competitive recruiting environment to try to get more players. Yeah, they think it helps them to say, hey, look what I got so-and-so, look what I got so-and-so, even if it never is intended to work that way. And teams will help them in ways where it helps get a deal done. Yep. This is as an example, if an agent feels like he needs to get a player to a certain number so it looks better. And, you know, realistically, this player is only going to play two years. You may do a three or four year deal. And those year three and year four may be significantly higher.

58:49Right. The average is higher. Yeah. Yeah. Call those a backload of contracts. But this is where you're basically playing off the fact that this isn't guaranteed money. Right. So if it goes 5-5-2020, now it's a four-year$50 million deal where realistically it's only a two-year$10 million deal. Exactly. That's a great example. That's well put that people can hold on to. Don't believe everything you read, kids. So, right. Free agency, when you see four-year$50 million deal with$10 million guaranteed, you should say, bullshit. Yeah, right. On it. Good deal. I want to be very clear, though. I have done a lot of deals with Jake.

59:32As you said, I'm very happy with all those deals. Jason Bernstein, if you're paying attention, you did a great job. Jay Bern. Yeah, we got one more here. Yeah, one more. Does college football need a salary cap? Oh, man. I mean, there is effectively a salary cap coming in terms of rev share, depending on this settlement being approved or whatever. Oh, wow. I think college football does need a salary cap if they want to stay competitive where, you know, you have more than one conference or two conferences that are competing at the highest level. Because the big schools are eventually going to be able to just pay for these kids.

1:00:09Like, yeah, that makes sense. My big thing, though, with college football, too, is I feel like this idea of the portal opening up every two times a year. And there's got to be some type of contract signed on the player's behalf. They have too much power. We've reverted to the complete opposite of what was the case, which everybody can acknowledge what was the case is not fair at all. Yeah. But now it's like, dude, there needs to be some type of commitment here from the player's side for a two - to three-year contract. And I don't know what that is, but that just seems like it makes sense to me on something that would be something fair for both sides of what's happening in college sports.

1:00:46Yeah, it's a crazy thing. You think about in the NFL and the good teams and the continuity of the best players. You know, in college now you have two portals, one portal. The winter portal opens while bowl season is still like in full swing. So you have players coming and going. And now you're in spring, you're in spring portal time where some of the players who signed or stayed in the winter and took money are now like all they've done is participated in the spring. And now they're already out the door. It's crazy. And you have coaches who are still trying to win games like the basketball portal opened while the NCAA tournament was still going on.

1:01:23And so coaches are recruiting new players, losing existing players and still trying to win tournament games. Absolutely insane. Yeah, it's wild. Well, hopefully they figure it out, man. Jake, thank you for coming on, dog. We appreciate you, brother. Thanks for having me, guys. That shit was fun, man. Is there anything else that we missed that you think is pertinent for people to understand about salary cap or any of this stuff? I mean, this was like, you know, a fraction of 1%. I'm sure there's more stuff. But, you know, as far as how teams manage and players, this is largely the case. I mean, I think that's why in the beginning of free agency, when you guys start talking about all this, it's hard to just take surface level numbers.

1:02:05And the people who report on all this stuff, you know, they're trying to get information and they get information by having good relationships with agents. And so there isn't necessarily like competitive balance there either. You know, it's it's a system and it's a machine and everyone sort of has some best interest. Yeah, you got to take everything with a grain of salt, like everything else in life, I guess. There you go. All right, Jake, thanks so much for hopping on. Appreciate it. Appreciate it, brother. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Jake Rosenberg for joining us.

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