Bills New Coach, Championship Preview, Wedding Advice & The New Era of TEs with Greg Olsen | EP 176

29:40and McDermott brought Brandon from us to Buffalo. So to see them kind of have to start from scratch, I love McDermott. They've been there for nine years. A lot of those coaches are guys that I played for and worked with. So you guys know it sucks to see guys lose their job in any team. No one roots for coaches to be fired. Players especially hate it. The one thing about the league is change is inevitable. You have a guy like Josh Allen, And, you know, here you are year after year just getting right to the end and they just can't get over the hump. And I think, you know, a lot of people saw this opportunity with you guys, Trav, not being in it for the first time in a while.

30:19I think a lot of people saw this as Josh's opportunity to like, all right, get over the hump, right? No Mahomes, no Burrow, no Lamar. Get those premier guys out of the way and here's your opportunity. But, you know, as you guys well know, it's never as simple as that. I think while Josh Allen is incredible, and I'd argue he's the best player, if not he's the top three player on any given year in the league, but the roster, they got holes. They had issues. You'd have given up 30-plus on defense, and certainly he made his fair share of mistakes in that last game, but their margin for error was just so small.

30:52I think the roster was okay. I don't think it was a great roster. It was elevated by a generationally talented quarterback, and ownership just realized, hey, same old story every year, and we're going to try something different. And it sucks, but it's the nature of this business. Well said. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing with the Josh Allen, I guess, noise out there. Like, everybody's crushing him. Well, not everybody. He's getting his fair share of criticism, and rightfully so, at least two of the turnovers were blatant mistakes, right? It shouldn't happen. But at the same time, it's hard to criticize him because the only reason that team had the season it did and got there was because of him.

31:27and like there was plenty of other times and had that game go their way uh and josh made a bunch of plays in it as well so i don't know man it's it's a hard one to say because you you obviously want to hold them accountable you want to hold mcdermott accountable but like again both of those guys i don't know that either of them was the reason that they haven't accomplished it yet yeah it feels like they've always been missing pieces here there that offense you take away Josh Allen like they're outside of James Cook who really stresses the defense that much right like the offensive line is great they have a great run game and Josh just makes tons of plays but yeah it's it's a tricky one for sure I don't know what where do you sit with I guess Josh's performance like how would you go about grading that as as an analyst yeah so I you know I think what you have to be careful is just saying like your performance in this one given moment like how did you play in the divisional round I think there's a lot of examples and we can go back just this year you know in in just the last couple weeks of playoff games where you know would you say Drake may had his best game in the play come the postseason he hasn't probably played his best but CJ Stroud turned the ball over 15 times it felt like and they win so he gets another crack at it and Stafford certainly hasn't been as good in the postseason he's going to be the MVP most likely but you know in the regular season he was incredible I had him in that wild card round like they almost lost to Carolina he made some incredible plays down the stretch but he wasn't great that whole game to the standard that they've set you touched on obviously Drake may not play in as good as he would have hoped yet uh CJ Stroud I mean we used to call that being in the matrix, right?

33:09Like you don't know what's up, what's down. Like you are just rattled. What, if you're out there, you're a teammate, what are you saying to this guy to try and weather this, or as a coach even like, how do you get somebody kind of out of that and back into a rhythm? Yeah. So I think twofold, it's a great question, right? Cause watching it just as a fan and I like CJ, he's a great kid. I've always enjoyed the time I've been around him, have a lot of respect for him and obviously super talented to watch a kid to watch a guy at any position but especially the quarterback clearly out of sorts and the ball coming out of his hand the weather clearly affected him then it starts getting mental that every ball he threw was like a hope and a prayer and it just kind of spiraled away on him especially there in the first half you it just kills you like you never want to see someone struggle like that so I think in the moment there's one way to handle it Right.

33:59There's you know, the coaches need to do a good job with play calling and play sequencing and giving them easy completions as teammates. Make a play for make a contested catch. Right. Give them more time if you're pass protecting or, you know, we got to get open quicker and separate and give them an easy target. So I think there's things you can do on the field. Then there's the sideline interaction. You know, obviously you want to be positive. You want to be encouraging. You want to try to keep them going. So in the game, I think there's a lot of people, coaches, players, teammates that can do a lot to try to unburden him, like take some of the load off of his back because obviously he's feeling it pile on.

34:35And then I think even more importantly, like how do they handle it now? Right. So the game's over. They lost. The season's done. They have a lot of their future tied to him being their quarterback for the next 10 years. How does the organization, how does D 'Amico Ryans, how does the ownership in front office, how do they handle him? Right. You can't just say, hey, don't worry about it. Go on vacation. We'll see it next week. But you also can't crush them. So I think it's going to be a very delicate balance. And they're going to have to go about that in the right way because holding a guy accountable and not crushing his spirit, who's the future, as we all know, is a very fine line.

35:11And if they don't straddle it the right way and it goes too far other end, they jeopardize a lot of their future. It's tough, man. Absolutely. People are also saying it's tough as officiating a catch because the Bills fans and really the uproar of the entire this divisional round. From what I caught on the aftermath was, you know, the catch in the Bills game versus the catch in the Rams game between Devontae. But this Bills, the deep throw to Brandon Cooks. How did you see it? Did they get it right from from your view? I think they did. I think because the catch was going to the ground, he's not down by contact until the fall through the ground is completed.

35:55So I get the frustration. If I was the offensive player, if I was on the Bills, I would have been fighting my ass off, too. But when you take a step back and you just evaluate, now we can debate whether that rule is sound. We can debate whether the catch rules are clear or not. And that's a legitimate debate that needs to be had. But as it's currently written, while the process was clunky and bad communication and poorly handled and all that taken away, it was a correct call, in my opinion. Yeah. Well, Joe Burrow agreed. He said the amount of people that don't understand what it catches in the rulebook flabbergast me.

36:30Joe came out of retirement. He had to retweet it in two years. I don't think I've seen him say anything ever. All of a sudden, Joe was so fired up over going to the ground reception. It got him out of hibernation. Listen, if you're going to watch the game, you got to know the rules. And I'm flabbergasted if you don't. Flabbergasted. And what a great word. I love it. I don't even care what he said to the world. I'm just glad he used the word flabbergasted. Greg, you're the Bills GM. You know Bean. What do you think this team needs from a coaching player, all of it? You know, it's a great question.

37:02And I was talking to a buddy about it this morning. And if I'm Brandon Bean and I'm ownership and I have the magic wand, And I think there's a lot of Buffalo Bills fans right now that are saying, wait a minute. We just went from decades of irrelevance to nine really good years. And again, never made it to a Super Bowl. But we put the Buffalo Bills on the map more than they had in decades prior to McDermott getting there. So I'm looking at this saying, OK, everyone wants to make change. But how often do we see change? And the new guy not being as good as the old guy. We're trying to replace 10 NFL coaches right now.

37:41Can we all sit here and say these 10 coaches are going to be better than the guys they replaced? Odds tell us they're not. Odds tell us it's not how it works. Especially not the first year. No. Yeah. Now, the advantage you get is you get De 'Anherit Josh Allen, who makes a little of these margins a little bit wider. But if I'm them, I think I'm getting away from defense. I don't think I can sell to my fans, even if it's the right move. I don't think I can sell to fans and to ownership. We're going to replace a very successful defensive-minded coach and just replace him with another defensive-minded coach.

38:16So my gut is I think they go the offensive route. I think the pendulum swings to the other side. Do they just promote Joe Brady, who has a really good relationship with Josh Allen? And again, I'm speculating, but do they go with Joe and say, you know what, let's focus there. Let's stay consistent on the offensive side of the ball. Let's not worry about replacing that play caller over years. And then we can go out and get one of these defensive coordinators, you know, who's a former head coach, right? So you get Jonathan Gannon, you know, the Vic Fangios of the world, right? Who you get them and you just say, lock them in the room and you have the defense and we don't have to worry about it for a long time.

38:52So those guys are all over the place. Typically, there's more defensive guys that are available than offensive guys at that level. So that's what I would do, right? Do they bring back Dable? Do they promote Joe Brady? I think it's going to be an offensive guy. I just think for a lot of reasons for Josh, for getting that offensive pass game and everything organized consistently over time. And also more so than anything else, just sell it to the fan base. I think that's a big part of this. Well, speaking of the fan base, the fan base has been floating out a guy who's been undefeated in years past.

39:27Do you know Brandon Bean from your time in Carolina? Like Jason said, I think your name has been floated out there. Would you consider being an NFL coach? You know, it all depends on what my future looks like on New Heights. Like if this is going to be recurring, I think if this is going to be recurring and this is something that I stay, I just can't make my schedule. Apparently you guys couldn't get a hold of me for all these years. Apparently I was so hard to get a hold of that. I don't want to cloudy and muddy my schedule up to not be available. So we'll talk offline about what my future looks like here with you guys.

40:01But, you know, in all seriousness, I've had coaches never to be a head coach, but I've had head coaches, you know, text me or call me and say, hey, would you ever consider if we had a spot? And I've always, you know, you're always flattered and you're always, you know, it's nice. I'm not sure right now being at it. Now, you told me I could be the head coach. That's a different story. All right. Now we're entering into a new world. But, you know, the idea of coaching is something I love. the idea of as fun as TD is, and I love it, and my plan is to do this for 30 years. We'll see what you guys know, and Jason, you're going through it right now.

40:37As fun as game day is in the booth and on set and in the studio, it's just different. Not like you're watching these guys prepare for the game. You're watching warm-ups. You're watching the thrill of victory, the agony of these bone-crushing losses, the locker room, the guys, the relationships, the hard times. You're never going to feel that. Like that never gets filled. What we do in TV is really close to it from like a competitive and like you're in the juice. Coaching is probably a little bit closer to the action. You're like truly living and dying because you are impacting the game. That appeals to me.

41:10I love that competitive element of it. If by some randomness I was ever considered for a job, it's something I would definitely consider. But I don't sit here right now pursuing that. It's not something I picture myself doing at any higher level than I'm doing it right now with 14-year-old kids. But I like doing the TV stuff. It keeps me involved in the game a lot. And I get my competitive coaching fix yelling at younger kids. I don't want to get in there and have to start yelling at Trav. What the hell am I going to say? Dude, fuck it. Coach me hard, Greg. You got to coach me hard, man. No, just keep getting open and throw him the ball.

41:48Make this shit too hard. Hey, you see that guy right there? he's going to be open throw it to him deal well every everybody sees how good of a coach you you could possibly be that's why that's why we had to ask but if there was if there was an opportunity let's say let's let i'll ask this among all the open head coaching jobs right now which one is the most appealing if you are looking to be a head coach that's a great question so i i think right now buffalo is very appealing because every coach wants a quarterback right Every coach feels it's the hardest position to get. And if I have one, now I can put all of my focus everywhere else.

42:27If you inherit one of these jobs and you have to put in most likely these jobs, a lot of them are open because the teams weren't very good. A lot of them, generally speaking, you're trying to find the quarterback and build your staff and build the roster and and and it's just it's it's so hard. so you know you walk into buffalo you say okay that box is checked for eternity i can put all of my time and effort into everything else how do i sure up my defense my o-line you know whatnot so buffalo feels like the best job just from that standpoint alone another one that's intriguing is baltimore baltimore lamar is a fucking generational he's a guy that that yeah and and a lot of really, really fucking good players on that team.

43:12Obviously, a unique set of like a unique skill set in terms of the type of offense that they've been running. But I think it's still going to be very interesting to see who lands there and how that team changes as well. Yeah, that's a fascinating one. And again, you move off of – it goes back to our earlier question about you make change because you're unhappy with the current status quo. And that's ownership. The ownership has the right to do that. You get rid of a guy like John Harbaugh. Are you convinced that you can replace him with a better coach? And maybe they do. And certainly we've seen it go both ways.

43:53But like, that's a tall task. That's not a given just because you make change that it's going to be changed for the better. So I agree with you. They've got some really unique pieces there on offense. Obviously, again, quarterback being checked with Lamar is a great place to start. But I'm with you, Trev. I think that's going to be fascinating to see. Do they go offense? Do they go different? Do they go back to like leader of men and kind of stay in that same Harbaugh, Mike Tomlin type vibe, which both Pittsburgh and Baltimore have been for a long time? Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's going to be very fascinating to see how ownership in the front office kind of decides to move forward there.

44:30you got to bring in somebody with that similar toughness, man. I really just don't see it panning out, man. But you got to have that toughness as a coach, especially in that division with those teams. Yeah, no doubt. Well, if you want to be an offensive coordinator, we do have a position open in Philadelphia, Greg. We could really use your help with. We need some expertise in the building. I love Sirianni. I actually texted him a little bit because I ran into his brother-in-law at the Miami game, so I was texting with him. We were just kind of shooting the shit a little bit. I love Sirianni, and I know he gets a lot of flack and people want to come after him.

45:04I love him. I love his energy. I love his edge. I love the way he manages the game. I end up fighting the entire universe on behalf of him a couple weeks ago. That was a losing proposition. I don't know if you guys are familiar with social media, but not worthwhile. I don't know if you guys are new to this. I think if I'm an offensive play caller, I'm doing everything in my power to get that job. I want to go call offensive plays in Philadelphia because you can do whatever you want. Pick your poison, man. That's a great job. And when that O-line gets healthy too, holy shit. That's a great job.

45:44You want to get into this Nicky Foles situation now that we're talking a little Eagles offense? Let's go, baby. So Nick Foles offered up some advice. Obviously, Broncos losing Bo Nix going into the biggest game of his career. Jared Stidham will start for the Broncos. Has not thrown a pass all season long and is in the AFC Championship against the Patriots and the fighting Mike Rabels, man. Nick Foles offered up some advice on social media. Note for the Broncos and their fans, I know it's been an emotional 24 hours. I feel for Bo and the team, and I'm sending prayers for a strong recovery. A positive note, though, on going into a game versus the Patriots is that they struggle against back of QBs in championship-type games.

46:28It's an all-time tweet from Nick. How many retweets is it up to? That's a great question. Brandon, what are we at? As of yesterday, it was like 20 ,000. 20 ,000? It was at like 20 ,000, I think, at one point. I thought so. I might be making that up. Hold on. It's got to be something ridiculous. Maybe I made that up. Hold on. No, 23K with 17 million views and 200 ,000 fucking likes. Deservedly so. You talk about using social media with a great kind of, as a craft. That was a really well-worded, well-timed, obviously the internet loved it, and super relevant because. Yeah, stay positive, boys. Shit, Jace, you know it, brother.

47:09I mean, Wentz was going to be the MVP. You guys replaced potentially the MVP of the league that year and won the Super Bowl. Tricky Nicky Falls, man. It was wild. And I still remember, Wentz went down, and I still remember you could hear a pin drop in the locker room. We knew his ACL was torn in the locker room after the game. We were like, dude, what is going to happen? How are we going to overcome this? We just lost our starting quarterback. And thankfully, Malcolm Jenkins was up and said, hey, we still got a great team, man. Nick Foles has played a lot of football here. We had all played with him under chips.

47:39So we kind of had a lot of familiarity and confidence with Nick. And it took us a couple games. That's the one thing that Stidham doesn't have. Like, we got the rest of the season and kind of warmed into that role. It's going to be interesting. I mean, Sean Payton is one of the all-time schemers, and he was in his bag this last week against the Bills. Like, we had a thick six, freaking had a bootleg throwback at the end of the half. Like, he was dialing them up in that game as well. So, it'll be interesting to see what he kind of has suited this coming week against the Patriots. I don't really know.

48:12So, I mean, I want to see Stidham play well. Are you familiar with Stidham at all? Yeah, I mean, I know him enough. You know, he came out, got drafted by the Patriots, oddly enough. Yeah. But, again, just hasn't played a ton. Obviously, hasn't thrown a pass this season. You know, so just not a ton of experience. I do know, just from talking to people around there, that Sean Payton does have a lot of confidence in him. Like, he views him as like a sleeper backup. And, again, this isn't a knock on him, but what you said is exactly right. He has no runway, right? There's no like, hey, give him a couple weeks, he'll find his footing.

48:46There's no best to seven series. He doesn't get to come back on Monday and play again. Like, this is it. And you're playing against, you know, one of the top teams in the league, arguably the best story in football, and Drake, who's going to be up for, you know, in the running with Stafford and MVP. So tall task. You get it at home, which is certainly helpful. And, but yeah, it's a, I mean, just could you imagine, I mean, you went through it, but could you imagine you just win an overtime football game in the playoffs to go to the AFC championship? And you're walking off, you're loving life, your quarterback's doing a press conference, sideline hit, all this, and you walk into the locker room.

49:26And I don't even think 30 minutes had passed before Sean Payton broke the news in the press conference. Not only that he broke his ankle, that he was done for the season. He didn't say we're going to reevaluate tomorrow. Typically, he's done. Yeah. Could you imagine the mixed emotions? It's everything you said you went through with Wentz to Foles, but six days before the NFC championship. In this case, the AFC championship. Like, I cannot imagine what their day was like the next day waking up and having to piece it together. Right. Absolutely. It was wild. Stidham has some live bullets, though.

50:03Like, he's played some ball in the National Football League, so I don't think he cones in there with just absolutely, you know, no confidence. Obviously, he's got a great team around him. He's got Sean Payton dialing those things up for him. And I think it'll actually be better than what people are assuming. Obviously, Bo Nix is an unbelievable talent. What he can do with his feet, his arms outside of the pocket, he's more of a gamer. And in the fourth quarter, he does have that ability to just make the fucking crazy-ass play or make the big play, the game-changing play. And Stidham definitely is going to have to come in and show us that he's ready for that moment.

50:37But I think it's going to be closer and just a better game than kind of how it feels, knowing that one of the best players in the league isn't going to be playing. Who do we think is going to take the NFC? Let's switch over. Switch conferences. We had two, well, we had one amazing game in the Rams versus the Bears, and then one just complete blowout with Seattle. How do you see that shaking out? Because Seattle just looks like unbeatable on defense. The way they have swarmed to the ball, they're good at every level. It's absurd. Yeah, Seattle's defense is incredible. And I'd say probably the back half of the season, I was fortunate to have a couple of Seattle games, a couple of Rams games, had the Rams first round of the playoffs.

51:19So I had enough time kind of taking them in and kind of getting a picture of what they look like. And I thought going into the playoffs, the Rams and the Seahawks were the best two teams in either side, in either the AFC or the NFC side of the playoffs. I think they were the most balanced. I think they had the quarterback play, the offense's ability to score points, and then obviously being very good on defense. That Seattle defense, to me, is how every defense in a league would want to be created, right? They're little. They manage the game up front. They're going to play with five or six DBs the entire game.

51:51They've got a lot of positionless, hybrid-type second - and third-level players. They keep a lid on it. They play fast. They play in space. But then you still can't run the ball. Like you're saying, oh, we got all these light boxes and they're in nickel. They're in dime. We're just going to beat them up. And you can't gain a yard. They're really physical up front. They've got good running chase players at the second level. And I think Mike McDonald is the defensive equivalent of like McVay on offense. So I think Seattle is probably the most well-rounded team in the league. I felt that way kind of down the stretch.

52:21I feel even more so about that going into this weekend's game. I love McVay. I think McVay is very unique. I think he's incredible. Stafford's probably going to be the MVP. Of all the NFC matchups, it's probably the best matchup. If you could have picked before the playoffs, who do we want playing in Seattle? 100%. Yeah. I think the last time they played, it was damn fireworks. It was incredible. So that's the game I'm most looking forward to. And I think it's clearly the best two teams for sure in the NFC. But if not, I think in a lot of ways, they're the best two teams in the entire playoffs.

52:54I'm right there with you. Obviously, Seattle, we just talked about that defense, how they fly around the energy that that team plays with yeah the the both it feels like they got a lot of young guys that just love to fucking play ball and they have this they have this camaraderie and those teams with the juice man they just it just feels like those teams find ways to win at the end and it goes back to what you were saying how the rams and seahawks played their last game was a fucking insane crazy ending to the game and you could just see it was like It was like stars were coming out of this Seattle team when they made plays.

53:32A.J. Barner, our tight end, our fellow tight end over there in Seattle, man. One of my favorite guys, a young guy, a swag champ kind of guy that just kind of brings everyone together. They have guys like that on the offensive side, defensive side, and I just think that team right now is going to be so fucking difficult to beat, especially when you got Walker running for how aggressive and hitting the second level with speed, man. That's going to be a fucking tough team to beat. And the Rams snuck by the Bears, dude. That game was a fun game to watch. An old Soldier Field, baby. A familiar place that you know, Greg.

54:13And when that place is fucking rocking, man, it is a different type of energy, man. I got to see one of Jason's games, the double doink, man. Shout out to Nags, love Nags. But I got to see the double doink when Jason was playing over there in Chicago. And you just, it's a different type of atmosphere when the Bears are fucking in it, man. When the Bears have a fucking chance, and right now they have one of the best and most exciting quarterbacks in the league, young, and you're starting to see these unbelievable plays kind of unfold. His ability to make this magic that he had in college is starting to get comfortable in the NFL and he's starting to make these crazy plays that fourth down and forever throwing it to our guy Cole Komet man shout out the tight ends everywhere right now making plays uh Cole Komet man that was one of the craziest fucking plays I've ever seen in my life and I still get chills watching uh all the different camera angles from the stands and I'm just happy for Chicago to finally get something that they can go out there and fucking cheer for man I'm not sure if there's a cooler city in the country is when their team is good than Chicago.

55:17And I was fortunate. I got there when I got drafted there was on right off their Super Bowl loss. They lost to Indianapolis. A couple months later, I got drafted there. It took us a couple of years. We didn't make the playoffs. And my fourth year, we made the playoffs. We ended up hosting the Packers in the NFC championship game. It turned out to be my last game. I got traded that next off season to Carolina. But man, I got to see it firsthand. You know, it's, it's snowing, the crowd, the city, the stadium is in the heart of the city, which is very unique. And you know, you don't see that a lot anymore with where they're built.

55:49It's just, it's a city that just loves their sports. They love the bears. They've had a history of all, you know, between the Cubs and the White Sox and the Bulls and the Blackhawks, like Blackhawks, they've had a lot of success, but man, they want the bears to win again they want it is a bear city and football rules is right so it's it was cool i mean watching that game in the snow caleb backpedaling throwing a 17 yard pass 50 yards in the air it felt like that ball was in the air for three days and when he threw it and when he threw it everyone was like oh my god that's what the end of the season came down to it was like a punt and then sure shit cole commits wide open right in the old bread basket man it was i thought they were going to go for two.

56:32Ben Johnson had been so aggressive in the playoffs, going forward on fourth down, did it against Green Bay in the wildcard round, going forward on fourth, continuing to push the envelope, and then had a chance there. I thought he was going to go for two, elected to go to overtime. And with these new overtime rules, you can debate how you handle it. But man, that was a heartbreaking way for Chicago's season. But the Rams have won both games that way. I was there in Carolina calling that game when it looked like Carolina took the lead with two minutes and they look like they were going to win and stafford makes plays and you know mcveigh pulls plays out of his ass and puts it all together where they have to he's so talented and so unique um but man it tight ends but you're tight ends all over the world there's a lot going on here i mean tight ends galore what the rams are doing with their dudes it's it's a fun time to be an nfl fan it's a fun time to just sit back as just a casual observer and just take in exciting.

57:31I wouldn't say good football. There's a lot of bad football going on, but man, it is fun football. And these last couple of weeks of the playoffs have been awesome. Get me fired up for this round, baby. Let's fucking go. Yeah. So we got Rams Seahawks. We talked about it a little bit, but it's not, it just feels like that's going to be the game that, that, that, you know, the team that goes on is going to win the Superbowl, man. It just, it just feels like they're both those teams, the Rams having that veteran presence that we've done it before. We've got the guys and then the Seahawks of like this new magic and Sam Darnold playing his tail off and the run game and the excitement and the juice.

58:08It just feels like right now the NFC is cooking, man. That's kind of how I view it. And I think it does run. And then obviously it complicates things now with Denver's chances and all this stuff we've talked about. So fascinating Final Four. Maybe not the Final Four everyone would have imagined for sure when the season started. but maybe not even down the last couple weeks. So that's what makes the NFL king. And one game series, man, are so challenging. And you guys have been on the good and the bad. I've been on more of the bad than the good come postseason. But those one game series, man, they'll get you.

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1:01:38All right, well, that wraps up bold topics. Let's get into our last segment. Greg, we appreciate your time and all the fun and all the great insights you always have. but let's get to this last segment, which is we got to ask, but you don't got a fucking answer. You can tell us fuck off if you want, but we'll shoot you with some of our, some of our best questions yet, man. Everyone's seen the viral photo of you at, at the McCaffrey wedding. Our intern is getting married. Hopefully sometime soon. Do you have any advice for him and him alone on the five must haves at a good wedding? Because it looks like you are a pro at wedding.

1:02:15Number one's me. I mean, let's just be honest. I just want to be clear here for anyone, for anyone, for Jason, for anyone potentially getting married, there's a lot of people saying it. I don't say it, but there's a lot of people saying it. Like if you want it to be memorable and you want, there'd be great energy and great camaraderie and fellowship and moments. Like I'm at the top of the list. Send the invite trap. No, listen, there's no, there's no, we don't do pity invites. There's no pressure. We don't do pity. We don't do pity invites. Listen, you want guys that bring it and have a lot of fun and can dance with grandma or the bride or the bridesmaid or the we get.

1:02:54We're very, very. It's like the tight end position. We're very multiple. We're very versatile. A lot of different music. We can go journey. We can go Rihanna. We can do a lot of different things. We can karaoke if it gets crazy. Had a lot of fun at McCaffrey's wedding, as you saw. As you can see. A lot of good dudes there. Oh, all time. We had a blast. It was like a reunion. All right, so five must-haves at a wedding from the guy's perspective? From the groom's perspective? Yes, from the guy's perspective. Yes, guys. Yeah, so music runs the show. So I would say, number one, don't go too long on the ceremony.

1:03:30There you go. Like, you got to do the ceremony, and you got to have your moment and your love. But, like. don't like everyone's really excited to get to the cocktail hour yep everyone's excited don't lose the energy Yeah. So let's find the balance between like honoring each other and getting this thing started off the right way, but also realizing why everybody came. So let's not go too long on the ceremony. Number two, like cocktail party, cocktail hours got to be incredible while bride and groom, while you guys are off taking pictures and doing your thing, like we need to have great cocktails.

1:04:03We need to have great finger foods. Everyone's hungry, right? I want a little sushi. I want a little shrimp cocktail. nice like really good little like finger crab cakes i think cocktail hour really sets the tone the music i think you can go either way i've seen great like molt like big big bands that can play anything multiple different singers and it's awesome djs can also work great music is critical you got to keep people out there you got to keep people engaged on the dance floor i don't even know how many things i just gave was that's free that's four that's four give us one more that's All right.

1:04:35So one more. Yeah. And this sounds cheesy, but like you just got to have your people there, right? Like you got to have your people that you want to share this moment with because you're going to wake up the next morning for breakfast and meet your family and friends and you're going to reminisce. It's like college, right? You wake up after the night before. The best part was talking about the night before and rehashing all the moments and all that. So you want to make sure you have your people there that mean a lot to you that you want to share hopefully the best day of your life with and be able to live.

1:05:06Oh, and film it. I regret not filming my wedding. We did a photographer, no videographer. And I regret it. I would love to be able to show my kids my wife and I's wedding. We only have photos. Big regret. So I'm actually going to move that. Like besides me, I'm going to move that way off the list. Way off the list. Just get that shit on video. There we go. Take notes, Brandon. All right. Who was the more eccentric quarterback, Jay Cutler or Cam Newton? Oh, wow. That's a good question. So my understanding of what that word, of what, like, eccentric means, I'd say Cam. Yeah. Jay wasn't necessarily eccentric as much as he was just Jay, right?

1:05:51Like, Jay had a very – and the one thing about Jay is he was pretty consistent. it. Like you knew what you were going to get. He was a good teammate. He worked hard. He was tough. I always had a great relationship with Jay. Not everyone did. He wasn't for everyone. The personality, there was a little aggressive. Me and Jay always had a great relationship. He was always great to me and my family. We had a lot of good moments together in our short time, you know, the couple of years that we played before I got traded. So I had nothing but good things to say about Jay in a lot of ways. Cam was Cam.

1:06:20I mean, you see it now, right? You turn on first take and he's got the the gear and the hats yeah and and you know he's always had his little flair from the time he got drafted right it started with the little um that he had like a little like i don't know it was like a tail of some sort like you would hang out what was it it was a fox tail rabbit's fox tail so you cool guys yeah i can't wear fox tails i'll tell you what trav you could probably get away like there's very few guys that can wear what cam wears i think trav to a degree like he could pull it off people would look at me and be like that guy's a douchebag i think people would look at trav no way and be like that dude's fucking cool like i want to hang with that guy so that's right but no cam dude if cam cam was coming out with a line of of the top hats and the suits and the scar if he's coming out with a line i'm fucking getting i need one of the hats 50 percent of that easily easily so i actually own like four they're called mashika free plug not okay mashika all right so cam bought so many of the hats that he ended up like either buying the company or investing in the company i don't know the exact specifics yeah so i actually have a few some were gifted to me one at cam super bowl party years ago in atlanta um there's a confident element to that answer your question cam and i mean that in like the most loving and endearing way because i've been very consistent in my messaging about cam's impact on my career and our relationship and friendship like i love cam for who he is yeah and um but he is who he is nice well using a former teammate fill in the blank people forget that blank was a problem oh man that's a great question right like college could be nfl man that's a great i i think back to you know in college in the nfl i think of like a guy like Devin Hester, but I don't think people forgot that he's amazing.

1:08:22You know who I'm going to say? Because I saw him last night, and I think he's a perfect answer for this, is Frank Gore. Nice. A very good answer. Will Frank be in the Hall of Fame? Maybe. I don't know. But I'll tell you what. Anyone who's watched football, studied football, knows anything about football, he would be on a very short list of guys that probably has universal respect from every player, teammate, coach who's ever seen him. and I got to spend some time with him last night at the Miami game and he was a teammate of mine for a couple years in college so I'm gonna go with Frank because some of the other stars that I've played with Cam and Luke Keekly and Steve Smith and Devin Hester and Brian Urlacher and Julius Peppers and these Hall of Fame guys that I played with I don't know like people remember them I don't think people appreciate how amazing Frank was and uh so he's my answer it's a great answer i will say people definitely don't appreciate how much of a physical freaking specimen julius peppers is though and his voice like this dude the way like julius peppers yeah like it was like what in the there's like the predator is just on the field playing a football game right now like this is ridiculous no but you know that meme online where like people say like for every like and they like slowly make the guy's head bigger or like every time i saw julius peppers he grew three inches it was insane like i saw him early in my career when he was in carolina and i was like oh my god this guy he's like six five he's a freak and then i played with him in chicago and he was it felt like he was six seven and then i played with him again he came back to carolina and i feel like he was seven feet tall like every time i saw him the biggest guy in the world got bigger yeah how is it possible insane he's he's insane all right very important next question it's girl scout cookie season officially oh top three go thin mints love it thin mint thin mint thin mint thin mints just off it i'm hammering clean sweep of thin mints yeah i'm hammering like i'm not even opening i mean if you give me any of the what's the like um um like the real pop the real like famous original one it's like the cracker like uh the white i know what you're talking about yeah um it's like the traditional like safe one people would like dip It's like the vanilla one.

1:10:44The sugar cookie. Yeah, it's like a vanilla cookie. Yeah, whatever that is called. I mean, if there's a box there, I'll eat the whole box. I'm not saying I'm too good for it, but I'm picking Thin Mint like a thousand out of a thousand. Thin Mint is great, but there's something weird. Have you noticed that there's like two different Thin Mints, depending on which Girl Scout area you're in? Maybe I'm too deep in the weeds. You're deep in it. I'm too deep in the weeds on Girl Scout cookies. there's there's like an illuminati apparently of of of uh girl scouts there's the one thin mint that almost has like a softer mint in the middle of it where it's like a interesting but then there's the other one that's like a harder one i like the hard one like i don't know which one you're on i don't to be honest with you i'm not sure if i even know the difference all right but all i know is the whole sleeve yeah is gone is in your mouth it's gone it's gone yeah we were we were tagalongs thin mints and then the what was the coconut one it was like it was a camaro it was a caramel like drizzle on top dude i'm not gonna lie those things are cracked those things got me hooked right now they called them samoa's but then i think the samoa's got canceled caramel delights something different caramel delights yeah there we go i'll eat them all i'm not too good for a cookie yeah i hear you i hear you do give me a glass of milk let's fucking is cooked oh man um be honest as the guy who called super bowl 57 how sick of the kelsey family were you on game day let me let me let me say this that was a really cool week as a guy who like has two brothers and grew up with them and like played together fought with them fought against each other all that like we got to sit down and i don't know if you guys remember we sat down and did that cool piece for the pregame show hell yes um that was awesome even though you guys made me late because you were filming this uh but it's fine it was worth it um that's when you first told me you were gonna have me on the show and that was like three years ago but it's fine i changed apparently i changed my number it's this it's the same place that my invite is um but anyway no man i thought it was so cool like and in all seriousness like Like seeing you guys have all of that culminate to play each other, be so willing to like openly and share it with the world, you know, share it with me, which was cool.

1:13:09And then like your parents and your mom and your families, like it's been cool to watch you guys have like your separate deal. And then like over time, bring you together and have like that moment. I think watching like Jason watching after the game, the emotions of like, yeah, my brother won. But everyone who has a brother, anyone who has a sibling, for that matter, knows the feeling of like, I want what's best for me. But if I don't get it, I'd rather you get it. Right. Right. So like there's this weird. So like watching all that play out on the world stage that week, like I thought it was awesome, man.

1:13:44And I think the way you guys have handled all of it and your relationship and your families and you have the second biggest podcast in the family, which is cool. I think it's pretty I think it's pretty awesome. So, no, I'm if I was sick of the Kelsey's, I wouldn't be sitting here for the last. I don't know how long. Touche, touche. You're the best. All right. What's the worst game you've ever called? Wow. I've called some clunkers. Oh, man. I'm trying to remember off the top of my head. I called a really bad game this year. What was it? Oh, it was towards the end of the season. Oh, Minnesota. I want to say Minnesota went to Seattle.

1:14:25Oh, yeah. And J.J. McCarthy got hurt the week before, so they started the rookie Brosmer. And again, I'm not knocking the kid because a lot of guys have looked bad going to Seattle. And I can't recall exactly off the top of my head, but I want to say Minnesota had like 50 yards. the whole game maybe less and it by the second quarter you're looking at my partner joe we're just looking at each other like i i got nothing i got nothing i got nothing what are you what are you doing that situation how do you like how do you weather that and keep the excitement there you just gotta the rule of thumb and i don't think there's any like again by no means am i an expert i haven't been doing this very long but like i think our rule of thumb is get to like halftime up till halftime, regardless of what the score is, make it about the game, make it about the teams, make it about the matchup, make it about the personalities and whatever.

1:15:19Second half, when it's clearly it's 35-6, it's 35-0 and it's over, you start zooming out and you have all these things. You call it like a bucket. We got to empty the bucket. We got playoff standings. We've got coach of the year. We've got trends around the league. And you just turn into like a daytime radio show right and you're just you just sometimes it goes really off the rails and you start just talking about complete nonsense and you know you kind of like black out you know you're you're you're like a will ferrell and in uh old school you're like you don't even know what you just said we're going straight yeah those games are the toughest that's like every broadcaster's worst nightmare is when they assign the games and it's like you got a really good team and a really a bad team, you're like, I'd rather call a game with two bad teams because all we want is competitive.

1:16:11Yeah, right. So the games that get multi-score at the end and there's no drama, those are not typically the ones that you want to call. Makes sense. I love it, man. We got tight end you coming up this offseason yet again. It's getting bigger and bigger, man. Last year was one of my favorites. I can't imagine how this thing is going to keep getting bigger. But just in terms of the guys, what new guys do you want to see at tight end you this year? Yeah, good question. You know, I want to see we're talking about the Rams. You know, we always get Colby Parkinson has had a great year. He's made some big time plays.

1:16:47Carolina game. Made the game winning play against Carolina. Terrence Ferguson's the young rookie. I want to say he's from Oregon. He's super dynamic. He can run. He's downfield guy. Kind of runs routes like a receiver. I'd love to get like see him live and in person. I think we can all sit here and say it's because of TEU. It probably is, let's be honest. Let's be honest. Everyone heard my speech on Thomas Edison. No, I'm kidding. It wasn't even Thomas Edison. I can't even remember what it was. It was inertia. You were doing one of the Newton's laws. Inertia. Yeah, you blocked out. That's the way it should be.

1:17:21You blocked out. But, you know, it's just so cool, and I think that's what's been so cool about TEU, right? And that's what I try to tell all these young guys. I try to encourage them to come. I'm like, guys, when are you ever at the front of the line going to have Travis and George and over the years, you know, Mark Andrews and like all these guys that have played for so long. And then at the back of the line, it's like the young, wide eyed, undrafted free agent rookie who's never even seen an NFL field. And he's just so happy to be there. Like the fact that we have the top of the top guys that haven't even started their journey yet.

1:17:51And for two and a half days, everyone's in the same bucket. You're all in the same drills. You're all in the same conversations. You're all at the same parties. You're all in the same bar. Like you're all one in the same from a social, from a connection standpoint, from a fellowship. And then obviously from a football and the guys that you're able to pick their brains. And how does Travis warm up? How does George run his routes? Like, what is he like in practice? Like watching guys, body language, watching guys, work ethic. Like it's just so unique. And then you look around the league and I would say the talent is as widespread and as deep as it's ever been.

1:18:25And I think that's so good for the league. It's so good, obviously, selfishly for the position. And the fact that TEU gets to play like a small little role in like elevating the position across the league. I know, you know, you, you, George and I, we all take a lot of pride in it. But I think the entire position does. Yeah. You guys should. I mean, listen, I give I give George a lot of crap and like National Tight End Day. I'm tired of made up holidays. But like, since all seriousness, like it is crazy to think of what tight ends are in the modern day NFL and how important they are. Like all of the best offenses utilize these tight ends that can be hybrid blockers.

1:19:05They can go out and be a mismatch out at the receiver position. You can spread them out like it. All of the best offensive minds want these guys because they offer so many different things you can do formationally, schematically, mismatching depending on what personnel the defense throws on the field. And it feels like tight end you has given this position, a platform that it never really had before. And I know that was an initial reason that you guys all started this was, Hey, we need to start like coming together for all tight ends. Like we aren't respected enough. We don't earn the money that a lot of these other star positions do.

1:19:38And we should, because we're as valuable as that. How have you seen the position change on the national scale with tight end you? Yeah, so I think tight end you certainly played a part of it. I do think the biggest difference between tight end when I came in the league in 07 and the way it is now, right? So we're talking almost 20 years. I think the biggest difference was tight end was always seen as like the blue collar, the unsung hero, right? There were stars. Jason Witten was a star. Antonio Gates was a star. Tony Gonzalez was a star. Shannon Sharp, I was like right on the tail end. So there was prominent players, but they weren't the face of the league, right?

1:20:16They were great players and Hall of Fame players, but they weren't the stars. It was a quarterback-driven league. It was a running back-driven league and wide receivers. And then there was like a handful of prominent defensive players, right? Brian Urlacher and Troy Palamalu and those guys, right? So you fast forward to now, and again, I'm not just saying this because Travis is on the pod. I'm not just saying it because he's my buddy and George and Gronk. The position of tight end over my career started being played by the faces of the league. They weren't just really good players. They were stars.

1:20:49The league was building the brand around these individual guys with Gronk and with Trav and with George. And now instead of it all being all quarterbacks on, you know, the commercial for Sunday Night Football or the commercial for the Fox doubleheader, it was always which who are the two quarterbacks plaster them up there? the commercials, the guys we saw, that's very different nowadays. So on top of just having elevated roles on their teams, playing in postseason games, winning Super Bowls, being the best player in the Super Bowl, like having the platform of football to play well at the position, and then just all the stuff that comes around it, the off the field, the elevating, I think all of that is like high tide raises all ships, right?

1:21:31So I think it's been a combination of on and off the field elevation and uh you know obviously Travis at the forefront of that and he has been for for years and Gronk and uh and obviously George and it's it's just a different time where it's okay for the tight end to be the star of your team the star of the league and it wasn't always like that um but I give all these guys a lot of credit because they're really the the tip of that spear do you think that's why we're maybe seeing some more divas at the tight end position than we've ever seen is that fair Yeah, divas, podcast hosts. Yeah, I think that's part of it for sure.

1:22:09I think that's part of it for sure. We got a young man cooking over there in Chicago, man. Colson Loveland came out hot in hard knocks. If I was these NFL teams, between Colson Loveland, between Aiden Hutchinson, they should make every guy at the Combine do a stand-up rookie song. because right now yeah i was going on that i was going on that angle i was going like like if you can get up in the room especially as like a 6 '5 white guy and just crush it and just own the room you have no choice to be do really good and all the boys are giving you high fives you're instantly the man like there's no greater feeling than walking out of that team meeting where you're like i just own that i mean if anybody knows if anybody knows you know you might have started this whole thing I yeah good and bad good and bad good and bad let's just say my rookie show was better my post college days were better and my weddings they're supposed to get better decision making improved we'll leave it at that I love it we'll move it to our last question for you a G-Rag man uh what was your welcome to the NFL moment yeah so and it's ironic because I I work with them now you know indirectly at Fox but uh we had a home game my rookie year in 07 and we had like a critical short yardage it was like either third or fourth down short yardage field short yardage um play at Soldier Field I'm the Y my hands in the dirt we're running I don't power whatever inside and michael strahan is playing like i don't know if he was in a four point stance but it felt like he was like an eight point stance and he was playing he was playing six technique right so he was like on my head the worst but he was the worst and like you go too far inside and he just caves you down you stay on his outside shoulder and he just presses you back so i come off hard inside step and i'm like i'm gonna bring everything i got everything i got I'm bringing it.

1:24:23Well, he like two gaps me. He locks me out, presses me, head in the hole. He takes me into the fullback, into the backside pulling guard. Oh, no. And I was like, I ran off the field. Swab the hole. Yeah, I'm like, guard, I don't care if you dislocate my elbow. You got to swab this thing, brother. You know, as you got older, like, I don't know about you. I mean, I guess both you guys, but you're going and you kind of keep that inside arm out. You're like, hey, brother. There's somebody coming. You don't want to get my elbow popped here. I don't need to hyper-stay my elbow for three yards. If I'm going to break my arm, at least let it be downfield.

1:25:07But I'll tell you what, man. I came off the field that day, and I was like, all right. Well, that was different. That wasn't great. That wasn't great. What are we doing as a coach? That's what we're dialing up. That's the double. You can't give the ball to Johnny. I'm Johnny. You can't put me at the tight end. I'm the tight end. Two little giants references in one game or one day, man. It's the best, man. Yeah. I'm 21 years old. I'm like 245 pounds if I'm lucky. I'm going to run as fast as I can down the field and throw it. this is so good we're gonna work into the other stuff yeah yeah no doubt god damn that's fucking good yeah it wasn't great oh man well i i can definitely say i've been there with your brother by no means was that the last time that's that it's just the intro of the nfl baby we're gonna release this one coach arc release yeah coach that's safety i'm gonna kill that i'll go get that second level oh that cracker play safety he's mine and then it's cam chancellor and he just knocks your helmet off you're like this sucks this sucks this game is so stupid not only is that going to be the game plan we're going to run that three times today oh my god but hey that's why they pay us the big bucks right hell yeah baby that's the fun of it man dude it was everything i could have imagined and more brother great thank you so much for fucking coming on today man uh sorry it took so long appreciate you being patient uh keep fucking taking the world by storm on the broadcast um the the middle school football i can't wait to see or hear these the the bits that you guys do the mic'd up bits you do uh on as a coach that you put on your Instagram or your social media, man.

1:27:04I got to be one of your biggest fans in the world. I love you as a person, who you've been for me and my career, getting to meet you back in Baltimore at the Ed Block Courage Awards. You were everything and more back then. You still are the best guy I know, man. So appreciate you coming on and I love you, brother. I appreciate you, man. You guys are the best and a lot of respect for you guys, everything you've done, everything you guys stand for, having a ton of fun while also being good at what you do, man. It's awesome. and the pleasure was all mine. Thanks for having me. Let's go, baby. Hopefully we get together and have a couple Aperol spritzes this offseason.

1:27:36Oh, I'm probably going to come up in like two weeks, brother, too. That even. Spritzen. Let me know. I'll be around. You're the man, dude. Appreciate you guys. All right. That does it for Mr. Greg Olson. Did not disappoint. That's probably the best football insight you've ever gotten from the show. That's all thanks to Mr. Greg Olson. We're going to have to tie him in next year to a contract because there's about 10 teams that are going to hear this podcast and going to offer him to be their head ball coach, man. That guy knows ball, and he knows how to get the best out of people, man. You ain't lying.

1:28:08He's also just a fun-ass time. It's rare that you find somebody that's that articulate, intelligent, but fun. It's hard to find those individuals, and he somehow nails all of it. Doggone. How many traits can one guy have? Funny, smart. I bet if you zoom in on his nose, it looks just fine. Great head of hair. Damn it. Tall, athletic. Smart. Smart, great vocabulary. Beautiful eyes. Fucking, he's married with a beautiful family. It's a blessed man. Good for Greg, man. One day. All right, let's get us some Stamps of the Week. Stamp of the Week is brought to you by Adobe Acrobat Studio. I kind of want to give Greg the Stamp of the Week, but...

1:28:53Yeah, Greg gets the Stamp of the Week. Let me see this clip of the equipment guy never letting Stafford's jacket hit the ground. The Rams are on it with the jackets out in the middle of the field. I feel like that was too much. And where are you at with getting jackets put over your shoulders in the middle of a game on the field? They were in sync right here. I'm not a big jacket guy. Like, what is that doing? Like, there's no way you're gaining that much heat from throwing a little like - It's not heat, it's just keeping the wind off of you, I think. I got you, but guys, I mean, come on. I'm not a hand warmer guy I'm not a I did the hand warmer I would put a towel in it if it was like wet out so that I could keep my hand dry I hear you on that I think when I was younger I did it and I didn't love it and I felt like it was like the more that I wear the less like free I felt it felt like I was kind of like in a straight jacket when I wore a lot of layers so I just eat the fact that I'm just going to be cold as fuck for four hours and I'll be fine no matter what.

1:29:58I don't, I haven't like noticed that it's going to like make me stiffer and like the cold is going to make me less athletic. Like when you start running and your body gets warmed up, like it's, we're outside playing football. Like I'm not going to be stiff that way. I feel like the more layers I had on that was restricting me more than like, if I'm just cold as balls. Yeah. A hundred percent agree. All right. I'm going to say this. although I'm against the coats in the middle of the game, I will say when it is a weather game, equipment managers matter more. People don't understand this. Like equipment people actually end up playing an impact in the game, how well they articulate to the players, like changing your cleats.

1:30:36I know my man Greg is on top of it with the Eagles most of the time. He is meticulous about telling guys, hey, it's slick out there, yada, yada, yada. But also like the balls, like whoever's in charge of getting the balls ready for game day, when the weather's good, like it doesn't, it's not that important. It really shows up when you got a little bit of rain or snow. If that ball hasn't been broken in properly, it just gets slick. It doesn't feel right. Half of it is just being prepared for the situation. I know my guy, Alan Wright, shout out to Alan Wright over in Kansas City, just got inducted to, I believe, the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame.

1:31:09I think he's been doing this with the Chiefs for maybe 40 years, 50 years, something crazy like that. He's still doing it. it's being prepared for all the elements for having it's having the end and it's kind of like putting your own twist on things like how can you be creative to help guys always be at their best in the elements um and always have something available for them i think is is the cool thing like i know the deep diving suits with the scuba suits were it became a thing you know just like but it's like as as things are like coming up or as things are kind of becoming a trend and things like that having all that shit ready knowing what to order before the season for your specific players on how they like to be ready for it um it's just it's always different but it and it becomes magnified when it's colder the rain or the snow like it really does make a competitive advantage for your players and it that's one of the things i always loved was like the fact that like the equipment guys i put in the extra time i gotta give a quick shout out to my equipment guy, Craig Blake.

1:32:15I don't know if you're watching, but let me tell you, I'm going to that shower and Craig will be scrubbing them balls and he'll be getting them right. And I'm telling you, he'll be in the shower. I'll be going in there showering. I feel a little bit weird that I'm naked showering next to Craig and Craig's trying to get the balls right for game day. And he's just scrubbing away at these balls. Can we give the guy you're scrubbing balls, he's scrubbing balls. Can we give him the chance to scrub some balls without you scrubbing your balls next to him? I mean, listen, he's doing it in the shower. There's only, there's limited, especially in a weight game, there's limited shower space.

1:32:47So, yeah, I'm going to go equipment guy. Although I'm not about the jacket, I respect the dedication to the craft. Rams equipment guy, don't know your name. You get my stamp of the week. I'll give the fucking stamp of the week to Kayshaun Boutte. Did you see this fucking one-handed catch for the Patriots? Did I see it? I was there. Sorry, I forgot you had a deja of Jason. Yeah, no, it was absolutely fucking insane. Everybody that was watching the game with me, everybody jumped out of their fucking seats. In this moment in the fourth quarter to go up two scores with a play like that, fucking A, man.

1:33:25That is a hell of a fucking play. And you're at home. Look at everybody going nuts in New England, man. New England's back in the fucking AFC championship game. What is this thing where the guys put their hand over the face? Is it like they're saying the other guy's stinky? I have no sure. I have no idea. I've asked so many people and nobody knows. It's so fun. The one thing that makes sense in my head is like, oh, he's stanky. He just put that stank on it. Yeah, I think maybe. I don't know. That's the sleep. The sleep. Everybody knows the sleep. Peek-a-boo. They're doing high fives. Peek-a-boo.

1:33:56And then this is the stanky. They're putting the stank on it. If you're calling it that. He definitely put the stank on that cast though. Shout out to Boutte, man. You get my stamp of the week. Way to go, Boutte. That wraps up Stamp of the Week brought to you by Adobe Acrobat Studio. And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you so much to the one and only Greg Olson. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube or in the Wondery app or wherever you get podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights right now at free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

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1:35:11Oh, man. Well, bud, you look fucking great. The saloon looks fantastic. Do you have assless chaps on? I don't. I actually have sweatpants on. The pants that they gave me don't fit my ass. So they're cutting the lining out right now to make sure that they fit. So right now I have sweatpants on. I'm a half cowboy.