Caitlin Clark on New Nike Ad, Signature Shoe & Fantasy Punishments + Week 18 Preview | EP 173

25:33So how do you think the Eagles will do, Jason? I think they'll do better than people expect. I mean, I know that the offense struggled in the second half last week, and it's struggled at times this season, but their defense is so good. and whoever they get in this first round, they're probably going to get a team that's, whether it's the Rams who have said they're going to play their starters or San Francisco, I think is the other team that will probably be it. There's a chance they could be the two seed and play Green Bay. They're going to get a team traveling from the West Coast all the way to the East Coast, and the Eagles are probably going to rest.

26:04So I kind of feel good about round one. I feel like they're so talented that they have a chance to beat anybody, especially if they're the Eagles. They got so much. so much firepower on offense it's just waiting to explode man and they've won before so they know how to do it proven speaking of quarterbacks that like so much of it is like who can handle the moment really well and he's been he's proven that he can do it he shows the poise there's some guys that we're just kind of waiting to see i'm too intrigued to let this go you said something about your fantasy league's punishment what is it this year okay it was like you had options you can do like a 17 hour bus ride no phone you could do no phone on a bus yeah like you just have to sit there like i don't know i think you literally have to like just sit there like but you actually you had to take your phone because you had to live stream the whole thing on instagram so everybody could watch to make sure you weren't doing anything awesome well That's kind of, yeah, you can get some entertainment out of the live stream itself.

27:07And then the other option was like standup comedy and the IHOP like 20, like the IHOP pancake challenge where you have to like eat a certain amount of pancakes. Yeah. So you had to do both of those. And then there was like one where you could like pay out a bunch of money and be like, I'm not doing any of it, but I'm paying a bunch of money and you can, we can be done with it. But I think the person that lost is going to have to do the bus ride. So you got to make sure we know about that live stream. everybody tune in yeah for sure it'll be very exciting yeah well do you want to play a game that we have where you pick an nfl team it's kind of randomized yeah we did this with uh with paul i don't really know what it's called what's this called um nfl perry i don't know i think it's weird it's very we did it with paul we both did it yeah let's give it a go basically you accumulate points by just picking the best fantasy year of you have to go ahead jason you might be able to yeah you're trying to pick the the best season of a player from whatever team shows up and it's from when fantasy football started yeah yeah yes how long is fantasy football been around i think like the 90s it seems like like late 90s early 2000s is when they're dating this back because there's a lot of players that we were hoping for that they didn't.

28:29Travis picked Emmitt Smith, but it was not from like prime Emmitt Smith years. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. And you have like positions and you only get to get, you only get to pick one. Like, so if you have a tight end, let's say, and you pick like the Chiefs for that position, like that's, you don't get to pick another tight end. But you get two flexes. So technically you can. I'm going to stop confusing you. I think the game explains itself. Houston Texans. Oh, geez. You also get one pass. If you want to phone a friend, too. Yeah, you guys might have to help me out with this. Let's build it together.

29:05I'm trying to think. So I'm thinking receiver. Trav, who do you think Houston Texans? Maybe Andre Johnson, Arian Foster is a running back that might have had a bunch of touchdowns. Touchdowns are king. Touchdowns are king. Your flex, you can have a running back wide receiver or a tight end. So it's kind of like you want to – I feel like you want to save the flex positions a little bit because – I'm used to there being a defense on your fantasy team, which I obviously hated. Didn't the Texans usually have a good defense? They usually had a good defense, yeah. This year, I think they're like one of the statistically – like one of the best defenses since the year 2009.

29:48Like they have been very good. Okay, you guys pick on this one. I need teams in. Andre Johnson. Oh, man. Not bad. Buffalo Bills. Yeah. You're a big Bills fan. I know that, right? I hate the Bills. Think early Josh Allen era, though. You can also go Josh Allen for quarterback, too. I mean, he's a fantasy. He's a very good fantasy quarterback. Okay, let's put Josh Allen at quarterback, because if I do get the Chiefs, obviously I'm going to put Trab. Gang, gang. San Francisco There's been a lot of good 49ers players, haven't there? There have been Christian McCaffrey at running back? McCaffrey, you already know I was going to say He racks up points Raiders See, that's the thing Is it going Oakland too or is it just Vegas?

30:39This goes to Oakland for sure You guys got this one I'm not as familiar with the Raiders The trap should be considering we've played them twice a year It's been a very rough, rough go around for the Raiders since I've been in the league. So you got running back, you'd be Marshawn Lynch was probably the best one. I don't know. But he was better in Seattle. Yeah. I don't know if his numbers are bad with the Raiders. Are they having any good receivers over there? Yes. Yes. Why can't I think of his name? It's going to be a tough one if you can't think of his name. I know. Brock Bowers had a hell of a game.

31:10I was going to say Brock Bowers, he had a game where he had like 50 fantasy points, but I don't know how he's done the rest of the year. Yeah. Yeah, that was almost 200 yards and three touchdowns in that game. I don't know if that's going to be a whole year's worth. Yeah. Last year he had a lot of. We need somebody that's had a solid year. Should we pass? Should we pass? It's not a bad pass. You get one pass. Who was the receiver when they won with Rich Gannon? Who was the receiver? Tim Brown? Tim, yes. I don't know if Tim Brown's on here. Let's pass. Let's pass. Yeah, I don't know when. Let's pass.

31:41Yeah.

31:44Well, we're not picking tight end We're not picking tight end here Did you read this? Did you read the game? You also gotta think You're probably gonna get more out of Tyreek Hill In this situation No, we're not doing that Put him on there Come on I just wanna see what it is I know, me too Ooh, look at that Almost the same as Andre Johnson Gotta get more touchdowns Alright, Commanders Commanders Oh, geez. And we're looking for receivers or running backs or tight ends. I guess you can put a flex tight end in there, right? Also football team. Also football team. Also football team. I mean, McLaurin had a good year last year.

32:24Clinton Portis. Who else? Clinton Portis. That's a very good poll. You guys are pulling some people I've heard of. Then Portis legend. He's a character. Okay. You guys pick this one. Jason, you got anybody else? I think you're right. I think Portis in the flex is probably the right pick. Oh, that one's tough. Not great. Not in the 300s is tough. It's not good. I think his best years were – I mean, you pick your poison here. You got a bunch. Yeah, Jason, this is all you. You should be able to get us the most amount of points. I'm just thinking of who scored the most touchdowns. Like, that's really what it comes down to.

33:02It's got to be shady, right? Well, shady is definitely a great choice. Terrell Owens is – I don't know what his touchdowns were, though. Deshaun, I got Philly and I took Hurts. Hurts was a good quarterback for this game. Yeah. I mean, running backs, I feel like, get you the most points because they get the most touchdowns. Deuce Daly. Brian Westbrook. I think Shady. I think Shady's a good choice. Deshaun McCoy. Let's see how many points he gets us. We're going to go Terrell. Do you want to go Terrell with wide receiver? Let's get receiver out. Let's go Terrell Owens. All right. Then we keep the flex alive.

33:37Oh, my God. Oh, no. I've screwed us. I've screwed up. Chargers. Chargers. Antonio Gates. No, LT. LT. That's an easy one. That'll be monstrous. This is going to be huge. Does it beat the high score? Is that a good score? Oh, it is a very solid score. Who has the high score? Who has the high score? Brandon. He plays this game all day, though. He knows exactly. That's not bad, though. Brandon, where did we go wrong? Brandon, where did we go wrong? Technically, Jake, I think, has got me beat by a little bit. I think the picks you might want to rethink would have been Andre Johnson. You could have gone Arian Foster, Terrell Owens.

34:15You should have gone Saquon. Oh, yeah. But Saquon wouldn't have got as many points as LT, though. No. So, yeah, it's kind of a pick your poison. The tough one is when you get Washington. I'm just going to be honest. Washington and the Raiders. I think Terry McLaurin might have a little higher than Clinton Portis. yeah that was another name we threw out dang all right the kelsey pics actually really good is this just online i'm gonna make people start about to say yeah yeah nfl perry.com sorry i've ruined this all night there's multiple apps is there a basketball version of this i think so there's gotta be that's kind of fun guy who made this game i know you watch the show make a basketball one yeah jason do you want to open that gift jason you want to open the gift can i open the box you sent us on christmas is that all right i'm doing it technically i was told i was supposed to open this on Christmas, but I screwed that up.

35:05So I figured, let's open this right now, live on air. Oh, yeah. You should have had your girls open it for you. Girls!

35:19Are they getting into any sports yet or anything? So they've done soccer. Gymnastics is the one they like the most right now. Soccer is always the first sport that kids play. Just go send them out there and run around. I feel like early on, you're trying to do coordination. right dance gymnastics run around kick a ball we got like one of the what are those uh what are like the little papa shots we've done that oh nice that's cute have they gotten their first field hockey stick yet is the question oh field hockey isn't that it's huge in philly isn't it yeah kylie is a huge iowa actually had a really good field hockey program really yeah which is like shocking but like yeah huge like we're always ranked like top five in the country so i've been to a few field hockey games in my day there you go beach bag let's go all this guy does is go to the beach oh there you go oh i know timeout friendship bracelet yeah

36:23this guy's never been this hyped for a president in his life yeah they got the hoop in there there There we go. Oh, let's go. You can just put that at 10 feet, work on dunking on that. This is right up my alley too. There we go. Talk about one hand shots. So we're going to put it right in the dog crate.

36:45Brick. Come on. It's a brick. Boo. Over the shoulder.

36:56top of the key this is when the one hand matters more because you don't shoot a pop a shot with two hands you just benny you want to take a shot it's a gift from our friend caitlin come on take a shot come on benny oh she's running quiet he's got reinforcement we need somebody to come down to shoot a basketball. We need. It's a must. Oh my gosh, you are wearing the perfect attire. Come down here. Oh no. All right.

37:32Oh yeah. Let's see it. Let's see it. Show off your form. Let's see it. Why? Oh. Got their muscles going. Oh, that's right. Like my daddy. One hand. She's like firing at it. Oh, come on.

37:53Come on, you got it, girl.

38:00Did you make it? I think it rimmed out. Oh, that was awesome, though. That was a close one. Full-on baseball chuck. You're doing great. You're killing it.

38:13let's go here we go nice job that was awesome nice you're the best why adorable she's got a future jason so we'll just cut that up to where we only see the that last shot and that's how that's how the magic this is what we're going to be doing the rest of the night so that's cute the full dress the just the rocket of an arm though she's got it i can see it she's got the talent yeah no kind of can throw a ball we were on the beach she might have a better arm than i do it is crazy those rotator cuffs yeah exactly well thank you very much caitlin um did you have a good christmas i did i was in florida with my family so we're just down there chilling hanging out so So it was nice to get in some warm weather and taking a little time off after the USA basketball stuff I had.

39:05And now just pick back up and get ready for the season. I guess it's going to be here in a couple months. And you guys are welcome to a game anytime. Come on now. You know we're there. You know we're there. Rocking the CC1s on the hardwoods. That's right. Let's go. I got to get the CC1s so I can dunk. That's what it's happening. That's what you're missing. That's what you're missing. You need that new technology. It's just going to spring you up there, Jason. perfect exactly well we appreciate you jumping on with us can't wait to see the cc ones and uh everybody go check it out on nike right now uh wishing you the best of luck thanks for having me dude caitlin is so awesome she gets it and i can't wait for the cc one baby let's go come on now i'm gonna need him i gotta be able to dunk i don't know if i'm gonna be able to do it without all right that wraps up new news brought to you by nike thank you to our presenting sponsor nike In this episode, you got to hear our conversation with the legendary Caitlin Clark and our experience being in her Christmas campaign for Nike from anywhere.

40:07It was a great experience and a great message. Caitlin's beginnings may have been humble, but her dreams never were. She turned driveway buckets into record-breaking shots, filling field house bleachers, then selling out stadiums. That's right. Caitlin proves that dreams are never out of range. Man, she's such an inspiration to all the people out there. And I really resonate with her mentality about getting 1 % better every single day. Shout out to Nike and shout out to Caitlin for being such good friends of the show and having us be a part of the From Anywhere campaign. All right, 92 %ers, if you want to get in on the challenge and shoot from anywhere like us, visit at Nike Basketball on Instagram and get in on the action.

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42:49Eastern on TNT, True TV, and HBO Max. Hockey being played outdoors is just something special. Dude, if I could go, I'd be there. Check it out. All right, Trap, now that you've seen the video evidence of me jumping and attempting to dunk, what do you think of the chance? You're further away than I thought you were, dude. I'm not going to lie, man. But I will say this. I will say this. You are jumping like you've never jumped before in your life. Not like I'm like, no, you look like a baby deer jumping. Like we need to get you, we need to get, that's what I'm saying. You're very uncoordinated. We need to get you into like the, the good gather step into the power jump with two.

43:26Right now you're, you don't have the like right mechanics. The athleticism is so bad. It just went so quick. You're naturally quick. When you found out the fundamentals for the cone drill, you set the record in the combine. So it's like, we just need you to get, you have the power. You're up there. We got the slow-mo replay to help us see that you're up there. We just got to get you to time it up right and get the fundamentals right. So we did do the Vertec. Here's what's crazy. You know, the Vertec where you like stand and jump and touch the things. So from standing, like not moving and jumping, I'm over 10 foot.

44:03Just standing and jumping. Well, yeah, dude, that's fine. You need to get a basketball in the hoop. I'd probably say you need to get to like 10, 10, 10, 6, 10, 6 makes sense. But I think you need to get a little higher. Here's what's crazy though. Just standing and jumping. I'm over 10 foot running and jumping and doing the same test. I only got like an inch and a half higher. Like I should be able to gain more height by running and jumping, right? You would think, but I think it's, it's all dependent upon your body, like type and your athleticism right now. You're just an athlete. You're a powerful athlete.

44:34If I get more efficient at it, I should be able to get that higher, right? I would say you're going to produce more momentum, which will then get you higher. Yes. But I think for a guy like you, you really only need two to three steps into a good, powerful base. I'll put together a tutorial and I'll get back to you and I'll help you with some of the gather steps into the power. There's an Instagram clip that talks about the penultimate step, which I think is what you're talking about, where they do this gather. That's why I wanted to ask Caitlin about the penultimate step. And just see what. That would have been the best.

45:11She would have laughed in your face. And she's like, what? I'm going deep into this. Oh, no. She's a pro. She might have known. I've been looking up Jordan drills. Did you ever do Jordan drills? You're barking up the wrong tree. You're going down the wrong road. You need to follow. Too much? You need to follow the fat boy role. All right? You're not Jordan. You don't have an ounce of Jordan in you other than the heart, the courage, and the dog. Where do I get the CC1s at? That's a question for Kaitlin. I don't know when they're coming out. Is there any way I can get a prototype size 14 in the next 30 days?

45:45Let's think about this. Who jumps higher, Michael Jordan or Kaitlin Clark? Want the Kaitlin Clarks or you want the Michael Jordans? Honestly, I want the Kaitlin Clarks. Let's get into this week 17 of the NFL season. How does that sound, Trav? That's right. All right, Bold Topics brought to you by Xfinity, the most reliable fiber-powered Wi-Fi. You played on Christmas Day. I did, and Christmas games are always as magical as they sound, man. It looked magical. Arrowhead was rocking. The stadium was packed. Broncos fans were there. Chiefs fans were there. Everyone was having a merry old time. Obviously, we didn't come out with the win, but man, it was a fun night.

46:24I'm proud of the gang that we had in red out there trying to figure it out. and come away with the victory. Obviously down a lot of big names, but led into the game by my guy, Chris Oladouken, man. We were playing some golf earlier this offseason. I was looking forward to seeing him sling it a little bit. That's right. Yeah, Chris, he's an awesome guy. He's been on the team for a while now and finally getting his opportunity to get some NFL experience, man. And it's just fun. You know what it's like. And honestly, I haven't had this feeling of, like, seeing a young guy at quarterback living out his dream, just excited to be in the moment.

47:01Like we would come off the field and you could just see, man, this guy was loving every single moment, even through the good or the bad. And it was just awesome to get out there and rock with him, man. I was just proud of the way he handled the situation, handled the moment. Obviously, no turnovers and just gave us a chance to win at the end. He did. He did. I wanted to ask you this because a lot of times when you're on to the third-string quarterback, he's usually a guy that hasn't had a lot of reps with the ones. How many, I mean, I know he's been there for a while, but how many times have you caught a ball from Chris?

47:31I'm a guy, I'm a busy body at practice. I like to get some work in. So during defensive periods, things like that, I'm usually around all of the quarterbacks. So it wasn't the first time I'd ever caught a pass from him here or there. Like I've at least seen it come out of his hands and, you know, throughout the week have worked with him enough to where it wasn't surprising seeing the ball coming out of his hands. Nice, nice. He throws a good ball, and on top of that, man, he's a gamer. He's going to go out there, and he's going to have some fun. I call it the Chris O experience, baby, the Oladouken experience.

48:05You don't know what's going to happen. He's got that exciting playmaking ability because he's a mobile quarterback, and he can get out of the pocket, and he keeps his eyes downfield when he does. He showcased a little bit of that this past Christmas. Oladouken, I'm playing with Travis. I mean, yeah, he's the greatest tight end of all time. I'd be a fool not to lean on him a little bit, and he was just great the whole game. Wish I could have been there for him a little bit more, but he still played his ass off. A little more. It was like the entire two-minute drive was throw the ball to the Big Yeti.

48:33Yeah, and I thank the Chiefs for getting a little Travis chant going for me there. I think Coach Reed heard what the people wanted. Man, if you guys could have done that the first 12 years of my career, that would have been awesome. No, I'm kidding. Coach Reed's always dialing me up. And it's just whether or not the defense is the right defense for me to get the ball. But it was fun that Chris was trying to find me, knowing there was a fun little two-minute drive until we came up short. One more game left in this season, and you're headed to Vegas. How are we feeling heading into this one? It's Vegas, man.

49:10It's Raiders. Raiders week, man. It's always, no matter what the score is, obviously two teams where we know our season ends after this Sunday, and you're just playing for the love of the game and the honor of wearing the Chiefs helmet. in a fierce rivalry, man. And I know we've already beat them once. We gave them a goose egg, and they're going to be ready for this one. They're going to be excited for this one. And I know Pete Carroll is going to have those guys fired up and ready to rock and roll, knowing how motivating he is. And they're at home where they're comfortable. And, yeah, I'm excited to go out to Vegas and finish this year off.

49:44Yeah. Well, you guys will be playing him without Max Crosby, who has unfortunately been placed on IR, which with what appears to be a devastating injury. I don't know if you saw this Instagram video of him really going through it, but we can play that right now. It's a shame. You know, he's just so hampered. He hates seeing it. Oh, that boy's a baller. That boy's a baller. Oh, terrible defense. Yeah, we got to get into stance. We got to get into better stance than that. Oh, good effort, though. Good energy. Look at him. Dude, I've seen a bunch of clips of Max balling, man. Max can play. I think what's more clear here is that Max probably is not hampered with much of an injury and that the Raiders are probably tanking.

50:34Michigan guy, man. He just loves to play the game of basketball, man. That's fair. I shouldn't lead to such conclusions. It's unfortunate. Him and Brock Bowers, both on IR. Brock, unbelievable player. I know he's got to get some stuff fixed, and I know Max has got to get some stuff fixed, but two fierce competitors, I guarantee you, be back out there next year rocking and rolling. Trav, congrats on another Pro Bowl selection. Way to go, Big Yeti. What number is this for you? Ten, maybe. You hit a decade? You've been in the Pro Bowl for a decade? Jesus, Travis. Well, you led fan voting for the second year in a row.

51:08I think that's what got me in. It does count for a large chunk. I used to think that too, but I think I've seen somebody win the fan vote and not get in before. I think I saw that one time. Anyways, Creed Humphrey, Chris Jones, and Trey Smith are also in. Oh, this is also your 11th Pro Bowl. So you've actually been in so many times, you've forgotten how many times you've been in. You've played in what, one Pro Bowl? I think I was at it too in Hawaii. I played in two. I played in one with you in Orlando. We played against each other in one. We did. We did. Was that the following year? Yeah, it was the first year it was in Orlando.

51:45It was 2016. That's what year it was. Yep. And you were in Hawaii, what, 2014 or 15? It was 15. So the year of 14, season of 14, 15 in Hawaii, and then the season of 16 or 15 in Orlando in 16. Because I went when the Pro Bowl was in Arizona, then I went back to Hawaii. Hawaii for a year. Where you went. We both went out there together. I personally thought I got snubbed for that Arizona Pro Bowl, but whatever. Well, that's the way it worked. I got snubbed the year before. There were a few guys that got snubbed last year that I got snuck in there. It happens every year. The year that we played against each other in Orlando, I had one of the worst years of my career.

52:24When they said, you're an alternate for the Pro Bowl, and they said, hey, the other two guys are out. You're in the Pro Bowl. I was like, this is fucking crazy. I do not deserve to be here at all. I'll be there. I won the Pro Bowl MVP, got the car with a whopping 33 yards and one touchdown. and two first downs wow had a fake field goal that got me three yards on a first down got a deep cross thrown to me by andy dalton the red rocket oh go andy um and that was it congratulations on uh making the pro bowl trev you want to move on to some other nfl news yeah let's move on to eagles bills what a showstopper it actually was an entertaining game it was there's a lot of shit going on crazy second jalen hurts josh allen gotta see prime time football fucking love it um and it was only eagles 13 bills 12 and it came down to the last two minute or yeah last last minute drive with uh josh allen and a two-point conversion i mean it's a great win they beat the eagles beat the bills who are a lot of people saying the number one uh favorite out of the AFC.

53:32A lot of people think that it's Josh Allen's year. So for the Eagles to go into Buffalo and win this game just shows, you know, how good the Eagles are. Do you know how tough it is to beat the best team in the AFC? Some people are saying, some people are saying, do you know how hard it is to beat that team while you don't get a single pass completion in the second half? Do you know how hard that is? That's how good the Eagles are. That's how good we are. philadelphia they went over in the second half it's actually the second time we've won a game this year without completing a pass in the second half which is remarkable what that's how good we are bro bro this offense is too fucking good dude that is insane it is it's kind of crazy i was watching the game i didn't even notice that it's just like three and out and then before you know it you've had like i think they only had like 17 plays in the entire second half so yeah not good And most of it, listen, I thought Jalen actually played pretty good.

54:33So that stat kind of you would think would be quarterback driven. And they were – Rainy game, we're running the football, had the lead. But the run game, I mean, it was like – it was bad, bad. And especially in the second half, and not just like these like two to three-yard runs, but like negative runs where you're in second and 12, you're in second and 13, and I just – You know, it was a very frustrating game to watch offensively, to say the least. Buffalo's got some guys with some motors on that D-line, man. They can be disruptive, man. Tall guys, long arms. The Eagles have been trending better in running the ball, right?

55:11They did well against the Raiders. They did well against the Commanders. This was their chance to do it against a team that is going to be in the playoffs. And it was a little frustrating seeing the performance, to be honest with you. And credit to the Bills. I thought they did some things. They kept putting the safety down, and then they blitzed from the other side, and it messed them up a number of times. They were slanting the front, and that was throwing them off. It's just, you know, these are things that you would hope they'd be able to handle at this time of the year, and it was a frustrating game to see them have opportunities to have plays, right?

55:45Like, you're running outside zone away from a nickel pressure. That is a chance to be a gash if you block it upright. But because they're not on the same page, because the safety's showing he's down over here, the tight end tackler going to the safety, the backside knows the nickel pressure's coming. They're boxing. Nobody's blocking the middle linebacker. Yeah. I'm like, what are we doing, guys? Yeah. And it's communication like that. Guys are being let run free. Like, did we zone this off? Why is nobody blocking the three technique? Why is – it's just – it was not a great performance collectively up front, to be honest with you.

56:28And that was – it's frustrating as a former offensive lineman, a guy in that room, and, like, knows how good all those players are, where it's like, dude, we got to be better than this, boys. Listen, good teams find a way to win those games when they're not at their best. And that's what Philly did, man. But the positive is we held Josh Allen, the best rushing attack. Like, we weren't great against Chicago, right? Chicago ran all over us. We go out there against James Cook, and Buffalo's had a great ground game all season. Oh, yeah. And we performed really well. Yeah. Have a great goal line stand, fourth down, keep Josh Allen out of the end zone, great tackle by Zach Vaughn, blocked field goal.

57:06Like, the defense played out of their mind, and that's the positive coming out of this thing. I'll tell you what, going into that last drive, though, man, it just looked like prime Josh Allen, man. Guys showed some resilience, showed some fight, showed some heart knowing that he's got the foot issue right now. It looked like he got rolled up pretty good in there and just fighting through everything. I know he's kicking himself. You can see him kicking himself after that two-point conversion. I've been there and you already know he's going to learn from it and keep it moving. What do you think of the two-point conversion call?

57:39We were talking about this on Monday Night Countdown. What do you think of McDermott's choice? You got fucking Josh Allen? Are you kidding me? every time every time not even think about it the eagles had like two first downs the second half you don't feel comfortable going into overtime i feel so comfortable with a guy like josh allen and the ball in his hands and two yards to get they'd already had a goal line stand in the exact same two yards that's why i might be the worst head coach of all time is just i'm dude i'm like i'm putting it for it are you kidding me what are we i could end it here no i'm i got ball players I'm kind of just messing around.

58:17Honestly, if he's a mobile quarterback, I'm feeling even more confident because there's the threat if you drop everybody and all that, it's like you can still find a way to run it in or get out of the pocket and make something shake. When you make this decision, it's always going to be damned if you do, damned if you don't. If it doesn't work out, everybody's going to say it was the wrong call. If you make the play, the play was open. Like it's there, right? Just miss the throw. You can play devil advocate and say, you know, they just blocked a field goal before that. They just blocked the extra point or whatever before that.

58:47The one thing that I thought was interesting that we kind of got to on the desk last night was, I think it's actually probably a better call that they went for it too, because like at some point, like this, everybody's saying this is Josh's year to try and go win this thing, right? Mahomes is out of it. You know, Burrow's out of it. Anytime Josh Allen's playing the game of football, it's his year. That guy, he's got that ability. As with anything, the more reps you get in certain scenarios, usually the better and more comfortable you are operating on in the future. So now like, obviously this one didn't work out for Josh.

59:19He didn't, he's got gets pressured on his right. He's moving to his left, tries to make the throw and it's a little bit off target in terrible conditions. This is this same scenario might come up in a gotta have it moment in the playoffs. And now this entire team has had a rep of this and maybe they feel even more comfortable now repping it again when it matters most. So that was another reason I thought, hey, you know what? Maybe I'm kind of more on board than I thought with McNerman deciding to go for it. So in the end, I kind of agree with you. Eagles got the commanders at home for the last game of the season.

59:53And I'm sure the link will be rocking for that one. Could move up to the second seed with a win and the Bears losing. Which could happen. They're going to be playing Detroit. The Eagles will probably be resting starters. I don't think that we're going to see a lot of significant players playing in this one. We had a game like this, and the coach came in, and he was like, we were heavy in the first half to where we had a comfortable lead, and then we let all the other games kind of play out and see where they were at at half. So who knows? We did the same thing in 2023 when I was my last year, and we decided to go out against New York because we wanted to get some momentum going offensively because we weren't playing great.

1:00:41And we ended up getting A.J. Brown hurt to where he couldn't play in the playoff game. Jalen got his finger banged up. Like, it was catastrophic. So I am fully on board with do not risk getting anybody. Anybody you don't want and are not going to be happy about missing for that playoff game, sit them on the bench. Unless you have a chance to get the one seed, I don't give a crap who you're playing. Take the rest when you can get it. I believe the Rams have already said that they're going to go in playing to win. Right? So they're going to be playing starters. San Francisco and Seattle are going to be playing to try and get the one seed.

1:01:18And that's huge. That's huge. So the Eagles have a chance to rest and then play a team from the West Coast, likely, who's going to be traveling to the East Coast. And you're going to play them on a week where they just played previously and you've gotten a week of rest. I have a week of rest, yeah. I think that's a big advantage, and I would take that if I was the Eagles. The reality of it is that you can't just rest everyone. So guys are going to be out there playing. So you've got to be kind of smart with the position that you're putting your guys in, and at the same time you still want to go out there and win the football game and give yourself a chance at the two season.

1:01:54I'm going to be honest, too. I think resting some guys, we can still win this game against Washington. I'm not trying to say anything. It's football, man. anything can happen no matter who's out there look at san fran right now they're fucking rocking and rolling and they've had offenses the worst of kind of injuries yeah that was a crazy game weird i was that was my that was my biggest surprise of the year is that san fran is competing for the nfc title they've lost for best fred warner nick bosa uh uh their starting quarterback has been out for eight games brock purdy's missed they've missed george kittle for a lot of the season.

1:02:27Trent Williams went down last week in the first play of the game. So, like, the fact that these dudes are still like 12 wins competing for the NFC title, like, is nuts. Kyle Shanahan. And you gotta give John Lynch some credit, too, built in a deep roster, able to overcome it, right? Yeah. Like, if they don't have Mac Jones, maybe they aren't sitting where they're at, right? But they go and get him in the offseason. He plays well when Brock goes down. I mean, it's been, this is probably the most impressive season I've seen from the 49ers just with all of these things factored in, right? It's crazy.

1:03:00They've had a super team, and of course they've been successful with a great coach and great players, but this year, the fact that they've still been this consistently good with all of the injuries and adversity they've had to overcome, very impressive. A big week, 18 games coming up. Broncos Chargers could decide the one seed. That is, as Denver wins, they clinched the number one seed, and Chargers have said they are resting their starters. So I wouldn't just go in there lollygagging around. I know Harbaugh is going to have them boys fired up and ready to rock and roll, no matter who's out there rolling.

1:03:36And Trey Lance. Trey Lance, he's come in and he's shown he's got some spark. Sunday Night Football Steelers Ravens winner wins the AFC North. Loser eliminated from the playoffs. That is going to be a fun game to watch. Old school AFC North win to get in. Are you kidding me? dog on it. She gets me fired up, man. Reminds me of the Rathlisberger and fucking Ray Lewis days, man. I'm going to watch the game just because I always get excited to watch the Steelers and Ravens play. I grew up in the AFC North. Come on now, baby. You already know. Let's be honest. Are either of these two teams going to be competing for it at the end of the day this year?

1:04:16It's kind of like the NFC South where the Steelers were looking pretty good before DK got suspended, though. They were having a good finish to the season. Darnell Washington's out too, man. That dude. 300-pound tight end running the seams. He's a beast. And Raven's not sure if Lamar Jackson is playing or not. If Derrick Henry and you got Patrick Ricard leading the way and they're running like they did last week, I mean, that was an impressive performance by those guys. Yeah, but Lamar Jackson's Lamar Jackson. If he's playing, it's a completely different game. Saturday, Bucs-Panthers. If the Panthers win, they're in.

1:04:50Well, they've done everything they can to not get in. They've lost twice to the Saints, right? Like, the fact that this division is still up for grabs is bonkers. The Bucs, who I love, I mean, the Bucs are my favorite team coming into this season, and they have fallen off a cliff. They've had injuries all season. They haven't played great down the stretch here. Baker is one of my favorite quarterbacks in the league. It has not been a great second half of the season for the Bucs. panthers have had every opportunity the last few weeks to clinch this thing not even playing like top opponents in a lot of this stuff and they they just refuse to clinch it it's nuts it is crazy uh so yeah we're gonna see bucks and panthers duke it out see who comes up on the nfc south i will always root for the bucks i love todd bowles i love baker mayfield well the bucks are going to need the saints to beat the falcons on sunday and a win uh against the panthers themselves Yeah.

1:05:48And I'll tell you what, they got they got guys to where if the Bucs get in and they get rolling, that's a team you can't take lightly. They've just been banged up and it's and it's kind of hurt them all season long. And they haven't been themselves. Offensive line, they've had a bunch of injuries. They've lost. I think every one of their skill position players have been down at some point between Evans, Godwin, Ibuka, Irving, like all of them at some point have gotten hurt. So it's been a rough year for those guys, and you can see the frustration in some of the press conferences from Todd Bowles.

1:06:22And, you know, hopefully they can get in there because I love those guys. And either way, looking forward to this one. And we got a hell of a showdown on Saturday night, baby. The Flex game is Niner Seahawks, the winner of the NFC West, actually wins the number one seed in the NFC. So the winner of the Niners-Seahawks game gets to play all their games at home. The Seahawks defense is absurd. I mean, there's really three defenses have been the best in the NFL in my mind this year. And it's the Seahawks, Houston, and I'm going to go with the Eagles. I think those three teams have been like their defenses won them so many games.

1:07:02You can throw Denver up there too. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. The Niners offense is rolling. I could see this going either way. I really could. But I do kind of lean Seahawks just because of how great their defense is. I don't think the Niners are going to come by points as easily as they have the last few weeks. And I think Darnold will be able to put up a good showing against this Niners defense that's been banged up. Seahawks got two Cleveland guys. One Cincinnati Bearcat and Kobe Bryant. You kidding me, man? A.J. Barner, tight end. Let's go. I'm just kidding. What about Juszczyk? Kyle Juszczyk's a Cleveland guy.

1:07:35Cleveland guy. Medina guy. Yeah. Harvard guy, George Kittle, tight end. I'm just going to watch it for the love of it. You're right. I'm going to just thoroughly enjoy this game. The Niners have been there, and they've been so great for so long, although they've had adversity. I thought you were talking about the Niners. Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. Well, I was just saying the Niners have been there before. Are we listening to each other? Probably not.

1:08:01Dude, think about this. Sam Darnold was in a Week 18 game to clinch the number one seed last year, and that game followed by the playoff game is essentially why he wasn't brought back in minnesota right that's crazy and now all of a sudden he's in the exact same scenario week 18 and he's done the exact same thing to another team in seattle pay that man well i just wanted to i kind of wanted to work out for him that's awesome and he's a good dude is there a lot of scoreboard watching in week 18 there definitely is like the eagles will be watching the game in Chicago most likely, right? Any team that has been conveniently scheduled at the same time with the league office because they know that the seating and placements matter, there will be people watching the scoreboard all game long, for sure.

1:08:45Unless you do what the Panthers did last week and you don't show any games on the scoreboard. Oh, wow. Dave Canales. I'm pretty sure we did that as well in a situation where the Patriots were playing the Dolphins and um and kevin harlan one of the best ever in my opinion i fucking love that guy um might be a little biased because he's a kansas city guy but um also uh no he's a legend and um he was calling he was literally calling both games at the same time on the chiefs broadcast he was watching the dolphins game calling that game a play would happen in the kansas city game he'd call that dude it was awesome it's just a beast yeah and then you just randomly heard everyone in the stands start going nuts because the ryan fitz magic and the uh and the miami dolphins found a way to beat uh brady and the patriots and we got the one seat i never felt like watching the scoreboard took me out of the current game like i was just like all right what's the score oh we can if we a boys if we go really hard for this next quarter and win this game we're in i think the the reason is because you should be thinking that regardless i guess i'm Maybe I'm just not against scoreboard watching.

1:09:54What's wrong with scoreboard watching? Shout out to Fitzmagic, baby. I got to see him during the Christmas game last week. That was awesome. Which quarterback had the best O-line Christmas gifts? Caleb Williams gifted his offensive lineman Bottega Venetti and Don Julio. Bottega Veneta. What's Bottega Veneta? It's a really, really nice brand. I have a few of their bags. It's awesome. They're awesome. It's a bag. They do everything. They make clothes, sunglasses. glasses to it's like a louis vuitton yeah it's very similar they got well in terms of like brand recognition and everything bring a pull up but take a duffel bag give them some free advertising right now sounds like they need it that's what you pull up that's what you pull up brandon you think i'd be into that i said a duffel i told you a duffel bag you think i'm a fucking nurse this is just the website i said duffel bag you could have put bottega Veneta duffel bag.

1:10:51If I pull up a company's website and that is the first thing on the page, I don't even want to look at their duffel bags if they're making fucking... You ruined this, Brandon. You completely ruined this. So travel bags you want me to click on? Oh my God. Just don't. Get out of the website. What the fuck? What's next? What else we got? Jacoby Brissett, Christmas gifts to the Cardinals offensive line. Ramoa luxury suitcase, Versace robe, Bond number nine, cologne. The guys are going to be looking good, traveling smelling good traveling um and uh yeah enjoying the nice versace robe i went versace robe one year for uh for a lot of the guys on the team i think it was tight ends and quarterbacks and running backs maybe okay okay they got they got a lot of good versions man and luxury robes man can't go wrong dude josh allen got his lineman one quarter of a cow Wow, that's a great gift for an old lineman.

1:11:47It's a great gift. Dude. As long as you got a deep freezer. That's all I was about to say. As long as you got a fridge full enough for a quarter of a cow. Yeah. That's hilarious. Dude, we're eating beef. That's good stuff right there. All in on the beef. Mahomes gave out Hubolt watches, full swing kit. Oh, nice. Beats headphones, Oakley Meta glasses. Nice. renoa luggage renoa was really going all in with the quarterbacks all right uh eventon e-bike nice the e-bike was a hit guys were flying around on those outside the facility those things could go jared goff custom golf carts we've seen that one before seen that one before can always appreciate a nice custom golf cart aaron rogers can am off-road side-by-sides now that's a freaking can am what's a can am off road side by side it's like it's a it's a quad it's a quad oh nice hell yeah that's fucking badass thing you get after it hell yeah oh here we go here's the video oh no i'm wrong these things are souped up yeah that thing is yeah they're more oh they're more doom buggy ish dude that thing is sweet joe burrow gave his offensive lineman actual prehistoric fossils This is a first.

1:13:03A for creativity, Joe. How would you feel if you got a fossil? I would be so fucking excited. Are you kidding me? You're into fossils? You're a big natural history museum guy? A fucking... The bones of a decayed animal for millions of years ago? I would love that. Nice. All right. So you're not a flat earth guy. You believe that the earth has been around that long. Nice. Last year, Burrow gifted his O-lineman an authentic Japanese katana sword. I saw that last year. Joe's creative with the gifts. He's a good gift giver. I like this. Tom Brady and his team went undefeated. The undefeated year, I forget what year it was.

1:13:36It was like 08, 09, somewhere around there. And Brady got his entire offensive line brand new SUVs. But the kicker was that it was a one-year lease. Ooh.

1:13:54So they just had to give them back? I don't know if there was an option to where they could pay the rest to buy it. Well, it has to be, right? There's always an option to buy. I thought that was absolutely hilarious. And Tom was on the broadcast talking about beggars can't be choosers. Which is right, dude. You got to appreciate your gift no matter what it is. If you got to give it back. SUV for a year doesn't sound terrible. That's badass, yeah. Yeah. Bold Topics was brought to you by Xfinity, the most reliable fiber-powered Wi-Fi. All right. Thank you to our sponsor, Starbucks. Jason, you know that morning chaos.

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1:17:53Head to hillspet.com slash sciencedoesmore. Trav, what do you think? Where should we go from here? Let's wrap up some football with our Stamps of the Week, man. Stamp of the Week is brought to you by the NHL on TNT. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. The NHL, one of our favorite sports, is in full swing. So don't miss the NHL Winter Classic, which is always one of the biggest hockey games that the NHL has, and it's outside, typically at a football stadium or a baseball stadium. I think football stadium is the only place I remember it. But either way, the Rangers are taking on the Panthers down there in Miami on January 2nd.

1:18:30So it'll be a little New Year's fun as always and on TNT. But let's get to our stamps. I want to look at this video. There's a nominee in here for a grandmother and I'm always in on that. Can we play that video? Let's see what the sweet old lady has to say.

1:18:46Judging by the description, it might not be so sweet. Oh, my God.

1:18:55oh my fucking god oh grandma's got a foul mouth what is it signed did you sign it um yeah it says signed jersey right there on the uh oh there we go nice grandma where'd it go a little sign Travis Kelsey she seemed pretty excited yeah she was pumped she said holy fucking shit um our grandma didn't cuss at all actually she would say things like shoot and darn um but i'm with that kind of grandma too i have for sure right up my alley something tells me that dad's mother might have been a little bit more on that side of the road she ever had the cigarettes out of her mouth maybe

1:19:43i just remember going to that house and be like i can't fucking breathe like what are we doing

1:19:55that one called for yes of course i remember walking to that fucking house down in florida i mean what the fuck i can't fucking ash you don't even need to fucking spark another one it's in here yeah the smoke is in here it's not left i spent more time on her fucking porch down there than i did inside the house it's nuts shout out to grandma kelsey though she was awesome sweet woman sweet woman it was a grandma fur really i think her name was thelma fur if i'm not mistaken that tells you a lot about that side of the family name alone thelma fur all right well she probably hails from appalachia some capacity it's a hillbilly name if i've ever heard of a hillbilly that was the west virginia side thelma fur oh she's drinking get some moonshine she's whipping that shit up that's why dad wanted to go down there he's trying to get some homemade moonshine no doubt no doubt um all right who else do we got orlando brown jr friend of the show um i once seen cody ford run outrun a wild pit bull with a 24 pack of beer in his arms they were glass bottles athlete oh dude did you see this play dude you have to watch this They put him all the way out to the field on the three by and fucking threw him a hitch.

1:21:14You got to see this. All right. I see him down there at the bottom of the screen. Joey B threw it to him. Give me these. Boy, get off me, son. Oh, almost got in, dude. Oh, my God.

1:21:32Dude, you got to go for the legs. You got to go for the legs. You can't go for the fucking stomach on a guy that big. That's amazing. You got to go with that one. I'm going Cody Ford. I was going to go Vic Fangio, but after seeing an offensive lineman catch a hitch on the outside of 345, I don't know how I don't go with that one. All right, who do you got, Trev? I'll go with Trey McBride, who broke Zach Ertz's record for the most receptions by a tight end in one season, 116. Big Ertz, he had that for a long time. And, yeah, a guy who was in the room with Zach Ertz for a few years, Trey McBride, took some notes from the old ball player while he was there in Arizona.

1:22:15And congrats, Trey, man. That's a hell of an honor, hell of an accomplishment, man. One of the best tight ends. Recently just got paid as the best tight end, which I'm proud as hell of him and couldn't be a better guy and one hell of a fucking football player. So, Trey gets my stamp of the week, baby. All right, and that does it for stamp of the week. Again, Stamp of the Week is brought to you by NHL on TNT. Again, don't miss the NHL Winter Classic between the Rangers and Panthers, January 2nd on TNT. Let's get to some no-dumb questions. All right, what do we want to hit? What do we want to hit?

1:22:45We got some no-dumb questions. Would you rather be forced and tortured watching catching Kelsey on a loop for the rest of your life or get Brazilian waxed like Jason? I'd rather get Brazilian waxed. Yeah, just rip it off. Are you kidding me? Yeah, easy decision. By the way, the guy that maybe not Brazilian waxed, but a guy, we've mentioned Fitz multiple times. Did you see him? Oh, he just got waxed. Did you see him get waxed on TV, dude? I did. That's chest. I think chest might be worse. Dude, it's so tender. Especially if the hair's been there for a long time. You get around that areola? Oh, baby.

1:23:22Oh, baby. That thing might rip off. That thing might rip off. It's so tender. Nobody wants to be walking around out here with no nips. Yeah. All right. But, yeah, I'd rather just get my gooch waxed. What was your favorite gift you've received for Christmas this year? This goes out to Jake and Brandon as well. Happy holidays. My favorite gift is from Kylie.

1:23:52She submitted – so I liked a tweet from Kevin Nealon the other day who is now doing paintings. I don't know if you're aware of this, but on Twitter, he has painted a bunch of celebrities in a very creative way. And he was releasing them in like a – almost like a sweepstakes kind of style. Like you submit your name and email or whatever. And if your email gets picked, you get a chance to buy the prints. And Kylie won one of them. So I'm getting an original Kevin Nealon print. The best gift that I got was from Taylor, but it gives away things that we're trying to keep in-house, so not going to say it.

1:24:37And I love you, Tay, but Austin got me a great gift as well. Swift's good gift givers. They are great gift givers. Oh, Patrick Mahomes got the rest of the offense, some PlayStation 5s and a portable PlayStation, like a suitcase that has a screen and an area you could put the playstation it's like a portable like gaming uh suitcase oh wow from poga from poga yeah that's cool i really hope my girls get into video games because i just like i have not ever i mean we moved into this house in 2018 and i've never hooked up a video game console like i miss playing video games and i just don't have the time to really do it you know was a fun one for everyone what's that mario party mario party would be nuts they would lose their minds playing some mario party that's what i'm saying jake brandon get in here what are your favorite christmas gifts i feel like jake's gonna be a super boring i think that was a great gift super bowl ring might be up there for me but i will uh sticking with the theme of everyone shouting out their significant others i'll shout out my wife uh there's a sandwich spot that opened in florence we went to the sandwich spot and they opened a place in la and they're doing Yes, in Florence, Italy.

1:25:54And then they opened a place in L.A. And they're doing sandwich making classes where they teach you how to make their own bread and build sandwiches and stuff like that. And she got me a sandwich making class gift. So we're doing that together. We're going to learn how to make this authentic Italian bread. I'm happy for you, Jake. You're going to learn how to make a sandwich. We're a very big pro bread making podcast. And I'm very hyped on this gift. Jason, shut all over it. Go ahead. If I gave that gift to Kylie Kelsey, that was it. Hey, go learn how to make a better sandwich. That was not going to go over very well.

1:26:33I knew exactly where this was going. It's better that the rules are reversed, for sure. Man, I got a great idea for a gift, Kai. Get to work. I'm very hyped.

1:26:48Brandon, you're next. Lauren got me a bird poster. birds noted birder noted birder some of my favorite birds are on here so wait time out some of your favorite birds what are we looking at here it's a it's backyard uh la birds so yes these are birds that i see frequently um okay what which ones are your favorites on this uh poster oh this is gonna be a three-hour episode we're not gonna have time for this uh just give us one or two black phoebe these little bastards are great good little is it is it the sound what is so great about them. They're little birds that basically perch on little low things in your yard and they just eat bugs all day.

1:27:25So you can just watch them like dive bomb your grass all day. They're little. That's cool. They clean house. They're great birds. Nice. And then if we're being honest, these little guys, the Cooper's Hawk, great bird. They eat rats out of the yard. These guys are the best. These guys fucking annihilate small little rodents. Maybe that's what I should be doing instead of. If Kylie wants to get a cat for keeping mice out of the house, just get a falcon. Get a falcon. Become a falconer. Falcons aren't in your basement, Jason. You need a cat. Falcons aren't in your basement. They don't need to be in the basement if they prevent the rats from getting to the basement.

1:28:06Yeah, you're going to want a falcon. Mice, not rats. Let's get you a falcon. Outside of that poster, Brandon, what's your favorite bird of all time? Favorite bird of all time? Ooh. I'll go for any kind of owl. but like seeing a great horned owl is great good bird great horned owl yes what about i'm what about uh what's the one that makes all the noise the uh it's not a screech owl it's uh it has like a very like weird hoot where it goes are you thinking the barn owl there's no animal that makes that fucking sound barred owl has like a who the barn owl kind of like will scream this should be your podcast just chasing making bird sounds and you having to figure out what bird he's trying to be.

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