Chiefs' Streak Ends, Mahomes Injury, Rivers Reactions, Eagles Blowout & Playoff Predictions | EP 170

17 Dec 2025 · 55 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce - Episode 170

Overview In this episode, Jason and Travis Kelce discuss recent NFL developments, focusing on the Kansas City Chiefs' playoff elimination, Patrick Mahomes' injury, the Philadelphia Eagles' dominating win over the Raiders, and their playoff predictions. The brothers also engage in light-hearted banter, share personal anecdotes, and provide insights into NFL games and pop culture.

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Episode Highlights

Chiefs' Playoff Hopes

  • Travis Kelce shares his feelings about the end of the Chiefs' playoff aspirations.
  • Reflects on Patrick Mahomes' injury (ACL tear) during a critical moment of the season, highlighting the emotional impact on the team.
  • Expresses disappointment but emphasizes the need to maintain professionalism and integrity in their performance.

Eagles vs. Raiders

  • Jason Kelce praises the Eagles' performance in their 31-0 win over the Raiders.
  • Highlights the importance of a strong run game and defensive play, noting that the Eagles held the Raiders to just 70 yards on offense.
  • Calls for consistency in establishing the run game moving forward into the playoffs.

Old Man Rivers Returns

  • Discussion about Philip Rivers' return to the NFL at age 44 and his performance after a long hiatus, including a humorous recounting of his challenges and successes in his return game against the Seahawks.

Playoff Predictions

  • The Kelce brothers share thoughts on the current playoff landscape:
  • Travis mentions the significance of their last few games despite the Chiefs' elimination.
  • Jason shares the Eagles' potential playoff positioning and what they need to maintain momentum heading into the postseason.

NFL Half-Time Shows

  • The brothers discuss the quality and creativity of NFL half-time shows, advocating for more engaging content rather than predictable acts.

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Key Takeaways

  • Injury Impact: The emotional toll and professional responsibility that comes with significant player injuries and playoff eliminations.
  • Eagles' Strategy: Emphasizing the need for balance in offensive play, especially in the run game, to secure victories and confidence heading into playoffs.
  • Veteran Leadership: The significance of veteran players like Philip Rivers, showcasing the determination and spirit of athletes to compete at a high level regardless of age.
  • Entertainment Value: A call for more innovative and engaging entertainment during NFL half-time shows to enhance fan experience.

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Personal Anecdotes

  • Jason shares a humorous anecdote about his elbow injury, jokingly discussing his physical limitations and reluctance to seek surgery.
  • Travis reflects on past seasons, highlighting the bond and camaraderie of the team despite challenging circumstances.

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Closing Remarks

  • The episode concludes with reminders to tune in for upcoming special episodes, including a holiday spectacular and film club featuring notable guests.
  • The Kelce brothers encourage listeners to engage with the New Heights community on social media and platforms.

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Links and References

  • New Heights Podcast: Available on [Wondery](https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMb), [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036), and [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw).

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This episode combines a mix of sports analysis, personal stories, and entertaining sibling banter, making it a must-listen for NFL fans and followers of the Kelce brothers.

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0:00What other retired player should get back out there? I was thinking about this. Who else would be like? I mean, I know a guy still trying to prove his athleticism and trying to dunk. Travis, I can't bend my elbow right now. I can't even touch my head right now because I got a loose body stuck in my elbow joint. Well, go and get that cleaned out, Jason. I'm trying to avoid surgery, Travis. Are we not rehabbing? There's not a rehab. There's just a piece of cartilage that's floating around in there and it's stuck in my joint. Oh, well, yeah, Jason, you got to go and get that cleaned out. It's like stuck somewhere.

0:30I don't know if it's in the back or in the front, but it isn't leaving. I don't know. Anyway, it's not going to be me.

0:41Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondery Show brought to you by Allstate. You're in good hands with Allstate. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, University of Cincinnati alum. Shout out to the Bearcats. We're in the basketball season now, baby. And doggone it. One of these days we got to win that Crosstown shootout, man. Come on. Subscribe on YouTube, 100 +, wherever you get your podcasts. And follow the show on all social media. At New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week.

1:09Jason. Not your percenters. We got another great episode. We'll talk about what's next for the Chiefs. Eagles blowing out the Raiders, the get-back game of everybody's season. And Old Man Rivers getting in for the Colts. Before we get into that, we're going to get into some new news. New news. News is brought to you by Reese's Trees. Oh, we're in the holiday season, aren't we? The Reese's holiday treats are the best. We've always said it. Whether it's pumpkins or trees or... I'm sure they got some type of bunny thing going on. Oh, the eggs. Reese's Trees, better than Reese's pumpkins? Is that the question you're asking, Brandon?

1:50It looks like it. Honestly, I think it's pretty similar. It's definitely similar to the pumpkin in the fact that they both have more peanut butter to chocolate ratio, which I enjoy. So I think it's probably about the same, if I'm being honest. I'm going even. I'm going even. Well, we got a lot of new heights coming your way for the holidays. This Friday, we're going to be dropping our film club review of Home Alone with an incredible special guest. That's right. The one and only Kylie Kelsey. Not Gonna Lies Only is in for the Home Alone guest episode. And next Monday, we got a great guest episode coming out.

2:26First guest we've ever had on the podcast. Well, he's back. Paul Rudd, everyone. Paul Rudd is back. How about it, man? Kai and then Paul. God damn. Keeping it in the family, baby. And next Wednesday, we'll release the New Heights Holiday Spectacular. We'll have the first ever New Heights Secret Santa. Unbox some stuff sent to us from the 92 %ers. And we got a full episode with Kylie Kelsey. Ooh. How about that? You're not going to want to miss it. So, listen, while you're getting ready for the holidays, New Heights is right there with you. How about that? She's also going to be giving us some official shopping guides for dudes who can't shop good.

3:06Oh, that was classic. I actually might need to rewatch that. Jason, you are a great shopper. No, never been. Never been. Please enjoy the holidays with your family and also a lot of New Heights. That wraps up new news brought to you by Reese's Treats. And since it's the holiday season, I'm going to say the Reese's Trees are a little bit better than the pumpkins. All right, now let's get to some bold topics to wrap up week 15 in the NFL and unfortunately wrap up our playoff hopes. Chiefs 13, Chargers 16. What are your thoughts following the game? Well, first things first, obviously, we lost our quarterback, man.

3:47Patty Mahomes, our guy, our brother, our fearless leader, our face of the franchise. and to an ACL. And it's just – it's never easy seeing your guys go down. We had a bunch of guys get hurt this past game. And we fought, man. We fought. We had some guys fight through some stuff. We had some guys, unfortunately, not make it back out on the field. And for the season to be going like it did up to that point and we're on our last, you know, quest to try and keep our playoff hopes alive there in the fourth quarter. And on a freakish play to see one five go down like that, man, it fucking it was almost like it was.

4:28It wasn't real. And and shit just sucks, man. For a guy that puts in that much and puts his body on the line week in, week out and, you know. Makes this football world. He makes the best of it, man, by how hard he works and it just it sucks, man. And then obviously we had some momentum going there with our guy, Gardner Minshew, man, and tried to find a way there at the end. And it's just things just didn't go our way up to that point. And, yeah, that's the game for you right there. It's just things just, you know, when you need them the most, just weren't falling for us. And you got to go back to the drawing boards, man.

5:11And we got three games left. I know we're still talking about this game, But the integrity of who you are as a professional, as a player, you got to love this shit, man. And Chiefs Kingdom, we're going to give you everything we got. There's no question about that. There's only one way I do things. There's only one way Coach Reed does things. And if we're going to go out there and play some football, we're going to do it the right way. And keep trying to get these things fixed and end on the highest note that we can. Well, for the first time since 2014, the Chiefs are eliminated from the postseason, which is an outrageous stat.

5:44over a decade of postseason play for the Kansas City Chiefs. I was thinking about this the other day. It was crazy being at the game. I don't think I've ever been in that stadium with you guys out of the picture in the regular season. No, you haven't. Definitely not 2013. 14 was my first year playing. That would have been the only one, but I don't. And there was only one game where we needed some things to happen, and it didn't happen. And then we played the last game with our guy Chase Daniels. ah shut up yeah so it's just wild i mean it was wild being there and you know and i feel like it and it's a crazy completely different year that year we didn't have any wide receiver score touchdown right as crazy as that this year we're you know numbers wise we're we're up there with some of the top offenses and depending on what category you're looking at but um just critical moments man uh all the games we've lost were one score games man we were in it right there uh to the end.

6:44Yeah, one and seven in one-score games. Even that game, up until the very last pick, I feel like you guys were going to... In my head, I'm like, oh, they're going to find a way to get it done. It certainly felt like that, man. You guys have just done it so much. That's why when 1-5 went down, I was like, no way, this is what happens. Right? Yeah. I guess how do you approach the rest of the season? You talked about it a little bit. We're going to go out there and battle together. It's kind of unfamiliar territory at this point for a lot of guys in the building. the guys that have been there and I'm the only one that's been on the team long enough to see us not make the playoffs or to play a game that you know you didn't have a future and you know it's obviously fucked up but it's a new feeling so all I know is to go out there and play my ass off and to show up and give my guys the best chance to win and I think that's that's the mentality man there's an integrity thing here that when you sign up for the gig uh you're living out your dreams you're living out a kid a kid's dream that that never got a chance to do this you're living out um you know man yeah you're uh you're playing this game obviously to win superbowls you're playing this game to be in those playoff scenarios and stuff But at the end of the day, man, you're playing in the NFL.

8:08Yeah. And that's a fucking blessing. That's an honor. It's an honor to be out there. It's an honor to feel the soreness after a game because you're actually out there. You're fucking doing it. Yeah. You're living your dream. And no matter if you're getting the fucking ball thrown to you, no matter if you're blocking your tail off and you never see the pill, It's an honor to be out there in a uniform playing for the guys around you, playing for your family, playing for the people back home that are watching you, that have known you since you were a little kid dreaming about this moment or dreaming about these moments being in the NFL.

8:46And I'll tell you what, man, if there's a game to be had, baby, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to love fucking playing in it, no matter if it's a game that in the playoffs or gets us in the playoffs or a game that, you know, seems like it doesn't have any implications of that. So no doubt. Well said, Trev. And that's the integrity you got to fucking go out there with. For sure. The other thing I always think about whenever I played in games like this or seasons that have gone south, you know, even in the years where everything doesn't work out, you still have like a team and you're still close with guys.

9:19And I always thought similar to what you're saying, Trev, We've only got three weeks left of this year's team to play football. Next year, it's going to look different, right? Guys are going to be back. Guys aren't going to be back. No two years are the same, and you try to enjoy the few weeks that you know you have together. Obviously, the big thing looming is not only you guys out of the playoffs, but Patrick Mahomes tears his ACL in December. Usually, that's an eight - to nine-month injury recovery. I've been through it myself. It's a rough one. And you hate to see it end that way. You know what I mean?

9:54It was just a devastating, like, kind of final moment there. And Gardner went out there and battled his ass off. You know Gardner's going to do that, baby. That's how he's built, man. And we're going to fucking fight for him from here on out and then go out there and try to win some ball games with my guy, G. And obviously, it came out that his surgery went well. And, I mean, he's a warrior, man. I'm telling you. This guy's played through everything, battled through everything, has been crowned champion because he's battled through everything. And he's going to battle through this. It's the only way this guy is wired, man.

10:29He's a fearless, fearless warrior when it comes to this football thing. And he's going to make sure that he comes back stronger than ever. And, you know, hopefully the Chiefs can get him back as soon as possible. I know right now it's kind of right around that week one or the beginning of the season next year. So I know he's going to be doing everything he can to get back out on that field for the Chiefs as soon as possible, man. I love it, brother. You guys are headed to Tennessee to face the 2-12 Titans. Yeah, man, we got the Titans. And the Titans, as their record may show, they've only won two games.

11:04But, man, they're fucking playing hard. Hell yeah, brother. And they got guys on that defensive line that can wreck a game. Obviously, Jeffrey Simmons has been doing it for a while now, man. I'm a big old mean dude up front. and we're going to have to find ways to be able to slow him down and make our guy Gardner get comfortable back there. And from there, it's just mastering the game plan and getting out there and getting after it, man. We do have this mic'd up video of you and Derwin who had the game ceiling interception. Let's take a look at this. Give me this jersey. Come on, dog. Give it to me.

11:41You already know. Come on, dog. Keep bleeding, man. This is cool to see you transpiring and all that. You know, bro, you already know. Come on, baby. The best one. Come on now. Come on now. Do your thing, baby. I got you. I'll shoot it over here. We've had so many battles, man. What a great dude, man. Just plays the game the right way. The attitude. He is. The physicality. The toughness. I love it when, you know, you can get after somebody on the football field. They can fucking pick you up and body slam you, and there's no bad blood. There's just a bunch of respect for how they carry themselves and go at it.

12:12And obviously, Derwin's one of the fucking best to ever do it, man. And so it was an honor to swap jerseys with him and the honor to share the fucking gridiron with him, man. I'm a guy that I fucking love this game, man. I love it when I get to Gulbing is another guy that I watch on film. I'm like, that guy fucking plays this game the right way, you know? And he got me on a few this past game. It's cool that he came up and said all that, man. I wish him the best of luck the rest of the year, man. The question is, have you sent them the jersey yet? Yeah. Yeah, I shot it over to him. Oh, nice. There you go.

12:41I still owe a few guys jerseys. So you still owe me a jersey, Jason. Do I? I feel like you have a jersey of mine. I've stole like three jerseys from your house just laying around. So I might have stole somebody else's that you were meant to get out to them. Dude. I had like a mad dash of getting jerseys out to other guys late in my career. Just start a note. Just start a note of like reminding yourself. I don't remember the guys now at this point. But you'll remember them when you see them. You'll be like, oh, shit, I was supposed to get that guy a jersey. Just write it down. There's two guys.

13:09I sent them jerseys, but I never got confirmation they got them. I hope they got them. My Bearcats, I played in Indy. I haven't gotten there. The jersey's over to them yet. Sauce. Alec Pierce. Yeah, our guy, Alec Pierce. Dude, he's a stud. I know. Let's keep this thing moving, man. Shout out to the Chargers. Our guy, Jesse Minter. Coach Minter, I should say. He's got those guys rolling. Obviously, I respect the hell out of Harbaugh and what they've been able to keep doing over there, man. And wish them the best of luck. Thank you to our sponsor, Allstate. You know what's smart? What? Checking Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds on car insurance.

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14:22Who's that? Reese's. Or Reese's, however you like to call it. I'm pretty sure they would like us to say Reese's. So we're going to say Reese's and their perfect holiday companion. They're Reese's Trees. Oh, they are so good. Nothing says the holiday like Reese's. Perfect peanut butter stuffed chocolate trees. They might be the best holiday candy ever. It's up for debate. Every holiday tradition is better when you add Reese's Trees. Holiday movies? Yeah. I mean, those go definitely better with Reese's Trees. Ugly sweater parties? I mean, who doesn't like chocolate stains all over their ugly sweater?

14:58I do. Skipping the ugly sweater party to watch football in your sweats instead? I mean, that's a no-brainer, of course. I mean, you can throw on that ugly sweater anyways. Yeah. So celebrate the season with peanut butter perfection. and be sure to grab Reese's trees today. Jason, why don't you tell them where to get them from? Well, it's found wherever candy is sold. Literally, you can find it everywhere. I think I called you Jason. Jason, Jason. Thank you to our sponsor, Amazon. Jason, you done all your holiday shopping yet? Still going. I have started it. I got some of it going. I'm right there with you.

15:42Amazon is definitely one of the go-tos, especially. I mean, dude, it's just. It's got everything. Yeah. The shipping is taken into account. And it gets to you ASAP. It's right on the app. There's such a huge selection. Oh, it's the best. Yeah. No question. You can literally get anything and everything. It's to the point where it's inconvenient to order things that aren't on Amazon. Like, why aren't you guys just on Amazon? Dude, it's so good, dude. It's so good. Amazon is the go-to destination for all your holiday gift shopping. whether you're shopping for a wild white elephant party or a work party or family holiday party.

16:16Amazon has got you covered. They have gifts for every holiday and for everyone on your list. So shop holiday gifts for everyone on Amazon. Good luck, Trav. Want to move on to some of the other things that happened this past week? Yeah, let's talk a little Raiders Eagles. Let's do it. Man, so far, New Heights has played the Raiders pretty well. That's right. They haven't scored a single point against either one of our teams. The Eagles 31 Raiders zero. Jason thoughts on the birds. Obviously it's everything you want to do against the Raiders, right? Like you're playing a team that, you know, has been struggling and they're not very good, but you still got to go out there and perform.

16:56And, you know, I thought the Eagles offense did a really good job. I thought that the, the run game is something that we stuck with it, right? Like the first series I'm always watching, like, okay, what is this going to be? What's the plan today? How many runs is it going to be? How much shotgun, how much under center? Like, what's the flavor? And in the first series, I think it was like seven runs. There was a quarterback designed run. It was clear that they were going to stick with that and try and establish a line of scrimmage was something I think they need to continue to do moving forward.

17:25And I just liked seeing it. They pushed the ball down the field. They created explosives. It's everything that you want to see against not just the Las Vegas Raiders, but But this Eagles team needs to be moving forward. And then defensively, I mean, they held the Raiders to 70 yards on offense. Like it was an all-time performance from the defense. This is what this team can be. You know, even when the run's not hitting early, you got to stick with it. You got to keep attacking line of scrimmage, keep making them defend that, and then take your shots when they're there. And they did that throughout the game.

17:58And I thought that that was outstanding. And it's who they should be moving forward. And they got three games left, right? Two of them against the Washington Commanders, one of them against the Buffalo Bills. They've pretty much all but clinched their spot in the playoffs. They just need one more win, and it's over. Really, one more loss by the Cowboys, and it's over. So, you know, they're in the driver's seat. They're probably going to be the three seed. If they win out, there's a chance they could be the two seed. What I would like to see these last three games is continue to pound the rock.

18:27Get that run game going. It is going to open up so much more for the offense. And if these guys can go into the playoffs feeling good, feeling confident, working with each other in executing these plays, I think it's going to help out Jalen a lot more. And with the way this defense is playing, this team can be very dangerous in the postseason if they stay true to that formula. So that's what I'm hoping to see. Dude, there's so much fucking firepower over there, man. Right? In a game like this, you see it all clicking, man. It shows you what you got, man. And then you just build off of it. And it's crazy what one game of putting it together can do, man.

19:06It can strike it up. There was a crazy stat out there that I don't know the specific stat, which I probably shouldn't be saying it if I don't know the specific stat. But basically after you win a shutout game the following week, I think it's almost 50 % of the teams lose that following week. Oh, don't tell me this, Travis. I'm just saying it's a stat to maybe tell the boys, text the boys, hey, yo. That's so weird. Why is that the case? It's a very weird stat, and it might even be more than that. Really? I think it was a staggering number of teams that lose that following week. I think it kind of just makes you feel at ease.

19:48Maybe the game plan isn't as crazy. Maybe the game plan isn't as crazy. You know what I mean? Whatever it is, whatever it may be, the guys or the team that you're playing is like, holy shit we got to get our shit together we're playing this team that just fucking embarrassed another team yeah all right good luck hopefully we uh we start changing that statistic a little bit better there you go yeah there you go we helped that we want nice there we go um but this is what gronk said about playing the raiders which is a very very hilarious thing not very nice but when you play the raiders it's like putting neosporin on your cuts they heal those wounds it is true I mean, the level that the fans were at these last couple weeks, and understandably, the Eagles had not been performing well, but then all of a sudden you play the Raiders, who have won two games this year, I believe.

20:39It has a tendency to make you feel good again. And that's a great way to put it, by Gronk. I think the Eagles are smart enough to know that it was a great game, but they still got to improve and get better. But so much of playing well in the postseason is feeling good going into it. Yeah, that's the big part. I think the Eagles got some games here that they can feel good about, hopefully. You know, they come out and put their best foot forward. They get into the playoffs with some momentum. So we'll see. Well, Jalen Hurts, 12 for 15, almost a perfect day. 175 yards, three tutties before being replaced by Tanner McKee.

21:18And then Jalen, quote, after the game, he's always got one for us. Everybody needs to remember where I came from and how I'm built. All right now. There you go. Game this around. He's been – I'm sure he's been hearing all of this stuff talking about it in the media. I mean, listen, it was a great bounce back game for him. Obviously, the game before with the turnovers and everything, very uncharacteristic of Jalen Hurts. It's not been who he has been largely in the NFL. But this is what I mean. He's got 15 attempts. And if he would have played the whole game, it would have been more than that. But they did a great job of being a very balanced offense.

21:51And that's what they need to be. They need to continue. It's the best kind of offense. Even if it's not working, you got to stick with it. Because otherwise, these guys just don't respect it. They don't respect the line of scrimmage. They're getting into their zone drops easier. They're matching receivers right away. I came away this week and, quite honestly, last week, even though it didn't work out. We had the picks. I came away from last week feeling like this offense is showing signs of going in the right direction. Let's prove that. And hopefully we get another game this coming week against the Commanders that will show that a little bit more.

22:21There you go. Well, we got a LeBron stat of the game. Our guy at 37 years old and 255 days on top of those 37 years. Brandon Graham became the oldest player in Eagles history to record a sack in a game. Here we go, BG. Grandpa Graham. Grandpa Graham. Everybody's talking about old man Rivers. We got Grandpa Graham on the Eagles. He's going to fucking hate that I said that. Nah, BG don't hate nothing. He's the best. I feel like he had more than one, right? He had two sacks. He had a great day. Yeah, he had two sacks. Yeah. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Dude, he was balling. He was in very vintage form.

22:59Who was the oldest before that? Shit, it might have been Brandon Graham. I don't know who else. Yeah, I mean. It was Brandon Graham at 36 years old at 255 days. It's always fun when you start breaking your own records for old age. There you go. I don't know if that's true, though. Let's see. Well, you guys mentioned you guys played the Commanders on Saturday. A little Saturday in December, baby. Those college games start kind of going away, and all of a sudden NFL has played on Saturdays now, baby. Let's go. Yeah, baby. If the Eagles win or the Cowboys lose, the Eagles will become the first back-to-back division winners in the NFC East in 20 years.

23:40How crazy is that? That is mind-blowing. Yeah. That is a competitive division. It's going to come to an end, too. I mean, it's absolutely bonkers. It's been 20 years since somebody repeated. And yeah, way to go, Birds. Suck on that, Cowboys. What other games got flexed this week? How many? It's usually what, two or three games? I think it's two. Two games get flexed. At least two games get flexed just Saturday. And actually, I don't even know if that's, they might even, they might have even had this scheduled because now they just know when December comes that they're going to start flexing games.

24:16I don't think it was scheduled because that's why they were surprised, right well they're not the only game on saturday it looks like the packers are playing the bears later that evening you guys do have the day game though there we go well two o 'clock game that's such a weird time i don't like it's saturday i know i get it but i don't like it's also time it's also it's also could be west coast because this is brandon's computer that is west coast that's brandon's computer so that's a five o 'clock start which is still a weird time for a football game i don't know that i like a five o 'clock one four or eight those are the time slots we all know it stop fucking with me nfl you're so ridiculous so what i'm reading is they flexed you guys out of the prime time saturday and gave that to packers bears yeah they moved you to this yeah the egos commanders game would have been a very weird game to flex into a saturday game like yeah yes yeah all right that's what was we figured it out live on air perfect all right well yeah short week well uh good luck to the birds baby let's uh take our uh talents to the rest of the nfl and talk about some philip river just fucking back baby 44 years old a grandfather exactly 1800 days since the last start you went 18 for 27 for 120 yards one touchdown one interception against the Seahawks interception was the last play of the game.

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25:37He's playing great. I think everybody, so there are a lot of questions throughout the week. Everybody, a lot of people were joking about it. A lot of people were like, this shouldn't be happening. And I think he gave them their best chance. I mean, that's the reality of it. They're playing the Seahawks, one of the best defenses in the NFL. This dude hasn't played for five years. And he gave them an opportunity to win the game. They were winning the game when he left the field. So what is it, Leonard, Riley Leonard? Was he going to give them their best shot? What was Riley going to do against the Seahawks?

26:04We'll never know. I mean, I think we do, though. He wasn't going to go out there and play that well, I don't think. We can only assume. A lot of people were assuming that Phil was going to go out there and get sawed in half. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm not going to sit here and tell you I expected him to play well or not. I was like, you know, I just can't wait to see it. I don't know what's about to happen. Yeah. And that's the excitement of the NFL. That's why we fucking love this goddamn league. He gets that ball out, though. He did take some shots, though. He took some shots. That's the NFL.

26:32No, there's not a single game where a quarterback isn't going to take a shot. Yeah, the one where the snap went high on him and he had to collect it. He got accordioned by about three Seahawks back there. I was like, come on, get up, Phillip. Get up, Phillip. Dude, that was a vicious one. The old accordion tackle. He literally pulled the cleats out of his trophy case. How about that? They're mounted up on the wall, and he takes them up out. He pulled out the old Johnny Unitas's and just said, fuck it, I'm going to go lace these leather things up. That's hilarious. What a guy, man. High school team was cheering him on during the game.

27:06Let's take a look at this video. But there is Phillip's team, St. Michael Catholic in Fairhope, Alabama, having a watch party today. And he had the best post-game speech I've heard in a while. I thought it was outstanding. You know, hopefully my sons and those ballplayers that I'm in charge of at the school, they'll say like, hey, crap, coach wasn't scared. Nice, man. There's more to the quote than what's here, too. You know, he's talking about, you know, you come in and you don't know. There's doubt in your head. and having the courage to go out there and fight, right? Because the easy thing is just sit at the house, right?

27:34That's essentially what you're saying. Easy choice would be to, hey, I don't got to give it a shot. I'm perfectly fine over here. I thought facing doubt, facing criticism, going out there, playing the way he did, and the message that sends to the young men that he's in charge of in that area, as well as his own family, incredible. And we forget a lot about what sports is about too often. And I think this is a great reminder by Phillip. And Rivers was always that guy, man. For sure. courage through the fucking world you know yeah he's always been that guy that's played this game the right way man and uh no matter what the record was no matter what the situation was um so i expected nothing less but it's awesome to see him go out there and still be able to sling a sling the old pig skiing around baby unfortunately they didn't get the window yeah great job seahawks are a fucking great good ass fucking football team right now though i'm not gonna lie i saw I started seeing all that shit in the preseason.

28:26I started seeing some guys flying around. Sammy D is out there fucking making it, making a shake. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Dude, obviously he's got, you got, you get a guy that can get open on demand, man. You still got to give him the ball. Look at Justin Jefferson though. What he did with Justin Jefferson the year before. Now Justin, numbers haven't been as great for him this year, even though he's still probably the same player. And Jigba, balling out, one common denominator. He's got Darnold throwing it to him. There you go, baby. What other retired player should get back out there? I was thinking about this.

28:57Who else would be? I mean, I know a guy still trying to prove his athleticism and trying to dunk. Travis, I can't bend my elbow right now. I think somebody else. I got a loose body. I can't even touch my head right now because I got a loose body stuck in my fucking elbow joint. Go ahead and get that shit cleaned out, Jason. Well, I'm trying to avoid surgery, Travis. We got to get some rehab going. Are we not rehabbing? There's not a rehab. There's just a piece of cartilage that's floating around in there, and it's stuck in my joint. Oh, well, yeah. Jason, you got to go and get that shit cleaned out.

29:29Usually, I can find it and then, like, push it out of the joint, and it goes back to being fine. I can't do it right now. It's, like, stuck somewhere. I don't know if it's in the back or in the front, but it isn't leaving. Well, go get MRI and figure. I don't know. Anyway, it's not going to be me. What up? Who else? It's got to be a position that's not that physical, right? Dude, it's football. Aaron Donald. Bring him back. Bring AD back. He could do it, no doubt. Go on a Super Bowl run, AD. No doubt about it. Who else could go do it? Who else could go do it? I feel like Fletcher Kosh could still go in there and give some snaps if he wanted to.

30:05He's lost a lot of weight, though. He is? He's down? He's lost a lot of weight. He's doing good. He's doing good. How about I got Big Wit? Big Wit? Big Wit? Big Wit? I mean, that guy's made to protect the passer. He gets out of his bed being an NFL tackle. I think, fuck, we talked about it before. Shit, fucking Joe Thomas could go out there and play tight end right now. Tight end? That dude is fucking yo. He is yo. He is cut up. Little blocky tight end? Dude, 100%. Gronk? I think Gronk could do it. He can give you a bunch of games for sure. What about any other quarterback? Could Peyton Manning come up out of there?

30:43I don't know, man. What's the oldest a quarterback could go? Peyton has the next stuff, man. Like Kurt Warner? Get him back out there? You think he'd go out there and sling it a little bit? I saw Dan Marino on the sideline. What's Dan these days? Dan? Dan's probably not even interested. He looks good, though. I'm just going to be honest, bro. It's Dan Marino. He probably still got that glow to him. He's just that guy. I think we need to just see what's the oldest quarterback that could go out there and function an offense. Dan Marino's 64. Dude, I'll tell you what, man. I went to, speaking of Kurt Warner, I went to Kurt Warner's, his foundation event out in Arizona one year.

31:20And he always has ex-NFL players, quarterbacks, guys that can throw the ball. He had me come in there and we're the automatic QBs. So basically you sign up for a team or you draft your quarterback in a seven-on-seven game. And I was playing quarterback with a bunch of guys from, I think it was the military, if I remember correctly. But either way, you know who was out there fucking slinging it and looking like he was like large and in charge? Who? Doug Flutie. Doug Flutie? Dude, Doug. I'm pretty sure Flutie still plays in like a men's like baseball league. He like surfs every day. Dude, I'm dead ass serious, dude.

32:02Flutie is still like peak athleticism, dude. And he's still wired to like fucking lead the boys to victory. I promise you, dude. I feel like we should just go on like an old, like quarterbacks just giving it one game just to see if they can make it through. You already know a 44-year-old can do it off the street, five years removed. Yeah. What other quarterbacks are like in that age, like trying to think of guys that are like. Like older than 40. Older than 44, younger than Dan Marino, though. Like I just saw Ben Roethlisberger. Like John Kitna. John Kitna. Kidna was slinging around that same tournament.

32:42Who's younger? Like Drew Bledsoe. Drew could, I mean, yeah, of course. Aikman? Could Aikman? Troy? He still looks good and in shape, and I don't know if he's still got the lively arm. See, that's the thing, man. Personally, I feel like Rivers, he was around his high school team. He was around, you know, he's out there. He's around the game. He's still probably throwing the ball around, showing the quarterbacks, the mechanics, and how to get the ball out and stuff like that. He's got very unique mechanics. I don't think most guys are throwing the ball like he did. I mean, it's still a fucking live arm.

33:13You know what I mean? No question. He's always – he's never, like, not had that. So I think he's kind of stayed around the game enough to do it. And I don't know – I mean, Dilfer, Dilfer was – he was down there and was a UAB coaching. Gosh, who was – I'm trying to think of – like, who was the wave before Peyton? Joe Montana, step out on the field for a second? Joe Montana dude have you ever met Montana no smooth cat yeah dude oh my gosh I was like dude he had the aura of like a movie star man like he was just like the coolest dude I've ever met in my life man it was so fun 100 he could give you a game Elway Elway still slinging it around he's he's been around the game he's been over there in uh in Denver is uh in the in the organization all right see what he's got a touchy subject yeah we'll see let's move on here we got some questions who's winning the nfc that's that's a question um man it's really gonna be the rams or seahawks i don't know what all these other teams are doing in this list right like yeah i think rams take it i think rams take it they got a little bit more of a veteran feel to them right now even though the seahawks are playing fucking great i'm pretty sure they if it ended today, they would have it, right?

34:33The Rams would. Yeah, I don't see them. Now, the Seahawks did, the last time they played them, they lost barely, but Sam Donald turned it over four times. So, like, you know, it'll be interesting to see who comes down out of that, but I just, I don't think it's going to be the Bears. I think the Bears are going to lose some of these games coming down the stretch. NFC North is going to beat the crap out of each other. 49ers, I think what Kyle Shanahan's done and that staff this year with all the injuries has been incredible, but no, I think it's the Rams and Seahawks in that division this year.

35:04Packers just lost Parsons, which I think they're still a good team, but Parsons was the guy that, I mean, they went out and paid. They knew they needed a piece like that to be, you know, a four down rush team and do all the interesting stuff in the back end that Halfley likes. And now they're going to potentially have to blitz a little bit more and mix it up to generate the pressure. Or Rashawn Gary is going to have to start playing like Micah Parsons, which he's had a great season, but a lot of that is because he's been, out there with Micah Parsons. I mean, I think the Rams are the best team right now in the NFC.

35:36Eagles are right there. I think they're going to keep playing better, and I do think they're going to be formidable in these playoffs. The Bears, Ben Johnson as these guys roll in. What do you think of the Bears? I love watching them, man. There's some of those teams where you could just see, I don't know, man. I just love watching teams that have Eric Biennemi as their coach. Eric Biennemi's on the Bears? Fuck yeah, baby. I didn't know that. Yeah, he's a running back. Running back coach? He's over there, dog. There's just something. And then my guy, Joe Tooney. There's so much familiarity over there just from those guys and obviously hanging out with the tight ends.

36:09They got a young guy in Colson. They got a fucking veteran in Colton. I love watching the scheme. I mean, it is so creative. And I just feel like they're a few pieces away, it feels like. Yeah. But you never know. All right, who else? Packers? I think that's about it. But we do get to see the Seahawks and Rams play this Thursday. So there'll be some implications on how that NFC and definitely the NFC West plays out here late in December, baby. Do we need to get back to dangerous halftime shows? Are halftime shows getting too fucking? I just want to get back to exciting halftime shows. It doesn't even have to be dangerous.

36:49That kind of goes in with it, but I hear you. I mean, yeah, dangerous is inherently exciting. But there's other ways to make it exciting. Like, I just, if I have to see another dog catching a fucking Frisbee, I am going to blow my brains out. Yeah, no, I hear you. Where is the creativity? I respect the fun, but why is it at the NFL halftime show? That's like a college deal. It's a timeout thing. If there was one of them, it would be really cool. Or if the dog jumped over like a flaming bridge, I'd be all in. But it's just, it's not that exciting to me. like I can go to any park and watch some dickhead play catch with a frisbee and his dog he's got to be a dickhead did you see the Broncos mutton busting halftime show I did not let's see it check it out let's see what this is about do you know what mutton is Travis nope mutton is sheep meat oh this is hilarious wow he's trying to ride it yeah see how far I can go see this is what I'm talking about this is new this is creative this is interesting I've never seen anybody ride a sheep yeah see how long you can last i'm all in on this this is the kind of stuff i'm talking about no i'm out you don't think it's exciting to watch a little kid ride a sheep for as long as possible not for the nfl halftime show no i think it's good oh man i am completely this is how this is it's exactly the fucking dog frisbee thing the dog frisbee thing would be fine if i had never seen it.

38:17It's just that it's been done so much. Do something new. Do something creative. That's why this is interesting to me. I've never seen this. People are making a living. They're going around stadium to stadium selling this. I know. And I'm saying that's why it's not good. This is what I'm talking about. Did you see this? Did I? Yeah. It's the first NFL halftime show of all time.

38:45You signing up for that or what? I'm not doing it. I'm too heavy for it. The most impressive thing about this entire thing isn't just the loop. It's how quick he stops. He's stopping once he's already around it. How did he stop that so quick? Look at how excited they are. I love this. Yeah. They probably had never seen him do it before. They were all like, well, he doesn't practice because it's very dangerous. We'll see if he can nail it. He's missed it every time in practice. He almost broke his neck. We gave him a neck brace this time. See how he's got the lean forward? He's probably leaned back one time and fucking offed himself.

39:20I just think we can be more creative with the halftime shows. You did it, man. You fucking did it, dude. I knew you could do it. I'm out in on this. What is this? The 70s? 1970. You're right. So good. Let's bring the creativity up on halftime shows, NFL. All right. Shout out to those mutton-busting kids, man. I don't like shitting on kids unless they deserve it, and they didn't deserve that, so I'm sorry. But lamb, lamb is meat from lambs, right? Baby sheep. Yeah. Yeah. Mutton is the meat of a fully grown sheep. Why have we all never had mutton? Well, in some countries, they do eat mutton. Actually, shepherd's pie, traditionally made with mutton.

40:02Now we use beef because there's a lot more cows. They probably still eat mutton a lot of places. I've had mutton before. I'm not a big pie man myself, so. Tacos with Cam Scatterboop. boop. Jason, you got out of the house eating tacos in LA and then got called out by the Taco King himself. Who'd I get? Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't get called out. Maybe. No. We gave him a shout out because the way the taco was made out there in LA at Morisco's Jalisco was it was flat and sideways and deep fried, which I'd never had a shrimp taco. It was deep fried. Oh, my God. Come on back out to Kansas City. I'll take you to the spot.

40:38trust i'm not i'm not going to kansas city for tacos why because it's the midwest i'm not i'm going to la for tacos i'll go down into like miami for tacos i'll go to arizona for tacos i'm going to texas for tex-mex i promise you dude you can find fucking multiple authentic spots all right i'll give it a chance i'll give it a chance yeah with a bunch of flour tortillas no deep fried just the way you're thinking all right i'll give it a try i'll give it a try shout out to rudy's Rudy's? Yes. That does not sound... I'm not going to a taco spot called Rudy's. Rudy's Tanapa to Port... I forget what exactly it is.

41:15You're not like, hey, this is Noah's Tacos. I'm not going to Noah's Tacos. It's authentic, okay, Jason? They give it to you on foil. It just doesn't look that authentic to me, dude. If it's a paper plate with some foil, that's good. They bring out fucking, like, gallon jugs of fucking salsa that they make out in the back. Like no fucking sticker on it. No, they make it house made, but they bring it out in gallons. Pull up Morisco's Jalisco. Morisco's Jalisco's. Jalisco isn't even a fucking word. I don't even know if that's how you pronounce it. Jalisco? All right. That sounds more like a word.

41:50It's a taco truck? That's where you get good tacos. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get this shit out of here. You're out of your mind. Get this fucking. Get this out of my face. There's no chance any place in KC is competing with LA tacos. Street meat? You think street meat's fucking even coming close to an authentic? No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it's not. It is not where they come from. Look up where tacos come from. You want me to Google where tacos come from? Where tacos come from. Where do tacos come from? Okay. This is ridiculous. I can't believe you're trying to compete with this thing.

42:26U.S. introduction to tacos. Mexican immigrants brought tacos to the U.S. where they were initially seen as street food. According to who? Name your source. According to the AI Google research. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. I'm just saying, like, what are we talking about? Like, tacos are street. Like, it's a dish to be on the go. It's a fully encapsulated thing. It's a plate. It's not supposed to be in a strip mall in Kansas City. I think you can find tacos anywhere. I'm an optimist. You definitely can. I'm an optimist. I will try these tacos. I think that I will be beyond shocked if they compete with Marisco Sefelesco.

42:58We all know what that means, Jason. We all know what that means. I'll try. I'll try. We already know. I'm a very honest person. But they're not exactly what I think tacos should be. I will give them an honest assessment. I already know what your assessment is going to be. If they're legit, then I'll be honest. It'll never be honest. It'll never be honest. 100%. I promise you. It'll never be honest. I'm always honest. Unless it comes from a taco truck from Tijuana, you're not fucking going to like them. No. I love tons of trucks and tacos. I love Elmimo and Arambo. We'll do that at some point in the off season or soon.

43:32Who knows? Yeah, I'm not touching a single thing out of a fucking taco truck. What about the burger joint? The burger truck, franking it up. Kansas City fan. That was also in that post. That's my favorite L.A. burger. What? That's your favorite L.A. burger? You're fucking wrong. I'll fight you on that one. No, because burgers are street meat. They were brought here by the French to sell on the streets of New York. All right. Thanks for the shout out, Cam. We're going to keep trying to eat tacos sideways without spilling them all over my lap if I can. Dominate the taco. Thank you to our partner, Roka.

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46:32We're nearing the end of the regular season and every team is fighting to earn their spot. We've got some big matchups this week. Let's talk about some of them. We've got Niners, Colts, Patriots, Ravens, Eagles, Commanders, Ramsey, Hawks, Packers, Bears, Bucks, Panthers, Jags, Broncos. Who are we most excited for, boys? Jake, go first. I know you've rehearsed this. You want me to go first? I did not rehearse this. Go ahead. Go ahead. These are completely off-the-cuff takes, but I have two thoughts. I think. So right away, you have two thoughts. Two thoughts. Right away, off the cuff, after hearing that list of game, two thoughts.

47:07First is Bucks-Panthers. Like, I thought that division would have been decided by now. they've got two games against each other in the next like three weeks they do but whoever wins this one i think is going to have the leg up going obviously into the repeat matchup so bucks panthers to decide the division that's my number one game the second game bit of a wild card but patriots ravens for a couple reasons one i would be very shocked if the ravens ended up out of the playoffs and i think if they don't win this game they very well could be left out of the dance It's wild. Yeah. The other thing too is just, again, I relate everything back to being a Jets fan.

47:44I would love for the Patriots to not get the number one overall seed. So I'm really, really, really pulling for the Ravens in this game. Are you shocked to see a rebuild take less than 25 years? I didn't know. That's not supposed to be possible. This is all like. You can just actually put together a good team pretty quick. That's not really that hard. It must be a well-functioning organization. Just get you a good coach and draft a good quarterback, apparently. Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to say, honestly, the game I'm most excited for is Thursday. Ram Seahawks. I feel like there's just that number one seeds up for grabs and like division opponents on a short week is pretty wild to me.

48:22But I'm going to watch Niners Colts. I'm going to watch whatever Philip Rivers does. I've never been more excited for a player. That's a phenomenal storyline this year. No doubt. He only chose to come back against the best defenses for some reason. So I'm pumped for my boy. He did, right? He's like Seahawks, Niners. Niners are not the best defense. They're up there. They're not bad. They're okay. Jason Kelsey with some takes. There was also that rumor that had the Niners beaten the Eagles the year that Brock Purdy's arm like got hurt in the NFC championship. That Shanahan was going to call Phillip Rivers to have him play the Super Bowl.

49:02Wow. I want to see like Shanahan's mind against Rivers' mind. That'll be a fun matchup. Well done, boys. There you go. Definitely Rams, Seahawks, Packers, Bears. None of these other games are that intriguing to me.

49:17Bucks, Panthers is super important to see who makes it out of that division. I just, they both are, I don't think they're going to be. Jags, Broncos could have some juice. I still just question the Broncos, and I want to see if the Jags are it against that defense. All of these games are actually awesome. I'm going to take that back. They're all awesome. There you go. But no, Ram Seahawks, very much interested in watching that. On a Thursday. Packers, Bears, Bucs, Panthers. It matters. I'm such a huge fan of Baker and Todd Bowles, but they just haven't played great. A lot of that's from injuries, but yeah, it's an important game.

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52:37Even at 44, I'll torture shit. Fucking killed it. Way to go. All right. That does it for Stamble the Week brought to you by Amazon. That does it for our show. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Make sure you subscribe to the New Heights channel on YouTube and follow New Heights in the Wonder Reap or wherever you get your podcasts. Reminder, Home Alone Film Club this Friday, Paul Rudd Monday, and Holiday Spectacular with Kylie next Wednesday. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights ad-free right now by joining Wonder Reap us in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Once again, New Heights, a Wondery show brought to you by Allstate.

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53:43Ooh. Let's see what we got, boys. How old is this? What era? I have no idea. I just bought these offline. Nice. I feel like they're kind of new. Because I've never seen a pack like this ever in my life. Yeah, most of the older packs, there's not as much variety. Welcome to New Heights. This is what we're doing. this week. Season's over. Time to count cards. Wait, time out. This is legitimately a Pokemon. So you weren't fucking around. You weren't a big Pokemon fan. I was the Pokemon fan. I would out-Pokemon you in a fucking Pokemon minute. You don't even know how to play. You want to actually play?

54:16Of course he doesn't. That's what the cards were for. I just had them in a binder. I did not actually play. Oh, look, Jason. Bellybolt. That's a new one. I'm not familiar with that guy. If it's not one of the original 151, I don't, I'm so. It's not in red or blue. I don't, it's not canon to me. I'm sorry for whatever nerd that pisses off. Sandrew? Okay. I know that one. Kind of looks familiar. Clefable? Yeah. That's nice. Clefable. Yeah. Clefable. Put that a little sleeve. Yeah. Sleeve that one up. Sleeve that one up. Ooh, hold on. Wait. I have our card segment. It's sleeve it or leave it. Sleeve it or leave it.

54:56Great job, Brandon. Medicham. Looks like she's got the BBL going. Jesus Christ.

55:05Nice, Will. Thank you guys for watching Sleeve It or Leave It. We'll see you guys next week. It's our first edition of Sleeve It or Leave It and fucking around on the internet.

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