Flipping the Playoff Switch, Fixing the CFP, Why We Love Snow Games & Hobby Horsing Around | Ep 121

27:45It all just started coming down randomly. And then by the time it was the third and fourth quarter, it's a full-on goddamn blizzard. It was intense. It was cool. And the Eagles have already, I think, maybe even said publicly, at least it's being alluded to that they want to go to a retractable dome because they want to be able to like host super bowls they want to be able to have events year-round in the next stadium they build and i just am so much against the dome like i think that snow rain that's one of the things i love about football is that the elements play a factor and they played a factor in this game so i thought it was awesome i love snow games i was also in a box so i didn't really have to deal with any of it but it was awesome to watch from outside the window highly big fan of the snow game well the irony about the 2013 game in this game was that the eagles were playing matthew stafford in both games that's right that's right and the eagles came out on top in both games uh shout out to maddie stafford man our guy hell yeah fellow friend and man what a fucking competitor that guy is are snow games the best type of football game though i think so i think snow is it just makes everything magical it has this way of putting everything especially when you're playing in it but also as a spectator like i don't know it just it does just make it more dramatic and just more like just a fun atmosphere doesn't it yeah we played buffalo up in buffalo and it was snowy and we're getting pegged with fucking snowballs at the end of it yeah and i just i there was something about i don't think if it's as snowy as it was and you know built up like excitement for the fans going in there paying getting paid twenty dollars an hour just to you know clear out the snow i think it makes such a cool element for certain stadiums and certain like uh teams that i i think it has to be like the best like atmosphere to play it it's the only one that kind of uplifts everybody if it's the right amount of snow i guess yeah it just has this way about it where it just feels like it's almost like whimsical and like it's awesome i I love snow games.

29:44Where did you get this? What is this? This throw? This like poncho? Is that? That's blanket material though. That's not poncho material. Oh, it's poncho. I got it in LA. It's definitely not NFL licensed because it was from a guy named Chang on Venice Beach Boardwalk. I'm not even making this up. Bro, we had a whole bit for the late night show that we ended up not doing because of the fires that are out in LA. It didn't feel right anymore. The comedy behind it. Yeah. But I ended up making friends with one of the shop owners down there on Venice Beach. And this was what he had for you? Yeah, he scammed me into paying$100 for this poncho.

30:20$100? I knew it was wrong, but I'm like, I got to support Chang. You know, I knew there's no chance, but you know what? This guy's out here trying to scam people, make a living. I get it. Fuck it. Yeah, so I did it. Whatever. Nice. You're a good guy. That's all I saw in that. You didn't get scammed. You knew exactly what you were buying. Well, he tried to scam me. I didn't know. I just went along with it. Yeah, that's not getting scammed. You just wanted to help a guy out. It's true. There's nothing scammy about that. Well, he was scamming. I wasn't scamming. Well, he was scamming, or he just knew that he could hit you at the right spot.

30:54Yeah. He's like, there's a big whale over here. He's got a big old pocketbook. Oh, yeah, Andy. I could hit him where it hurts. I bought three other ones for$100, and then I had people sign them, and then I sold those for$200.

31:11and that's that's how you didn't get scammed i became the scammer and then i took the money back i told them i took the money back to chang one day that video surfaced it was gonna be epic so good the biggest combo going on in the game was rams rookie uh jared verse talking that shit and uh i mean he was backing it up he was back and he was having a he was having himself a hell of a game but after every single play he made he made sure that the eagles fans saw him and heard him um as he was running to the sidelines but a pre-game quote though i hate eagles fans they're so annoying i hate eagles fans when i see that green and white i hate it i actually get upset i actually genuinely get hot i get and being him being hot is like him being uh furious yeah he's from like an hour or two north of philly i think at least that's where he went to high school so he He gets it.

32:08Just embracing it? Yeah. Listen, he played pretty dang good, for being honest. Yeah, he backed it up. Their D-line played better than I thought they would. I mean, I think the Eagles offensive line is very good. They have a good D-line as well with the Rams, but I thought the Eagles O-line was really going to block them pretty handily because of how good they are. And that was a good matchup all game long. I mean, they brought the heat. They ran games well. They, you know, I think. the rookie getting banged up I think slowed him down. Yeah, and man, that dude is good. Yeah, and Fisk runs a lot of the games really well.

32:43He's got a knack for running those TEs and everything. He sets things up for other guys, so he's a big part of what they do up front. I will say this, though. Being a Chiefs player my entire life, going to your games, I've gotten some fun banter with the Eagles. I think Eagles fans get it. I think they they know they want to make they they they arguably do love it like they love they love they want somebody to come in and talk shit to them for sure they want it to be a rowdy and like almost like a like a fight mentality like i fucking hate you you hate us yeah like let's do this we're gonna talk shit but then there's also like kind of like at the end of the day there's a respect at the end of respect that a little bit being a dickhead but fuck you exactly i think there is a there is a little bit of that so uh the eagles putting it on the jumbotron before the game i didn't see that i saw that i thought that was pretty clever make sure the the eagles knew that that was hey can't you miss this yeah exactly that guy said this before the game yep but i think uh i think i've learned to appreciate the eagles fans for that and i've also been lucky that my brother is one of the best eagles to ever play the fucking game so um that makes them kind of appreciate my family a little bit more so we have more of a mutual respect for each other.

34:00But yeah, Eagles fans, they want you to do this kind of stuff. And I think, I don't know, maybe Jared knew that coming in because he grew up not too far away. I think he did know because he said this after the game. He said, after the game, I was walking to the locker room, they were throwing snowballs at me. They bleed green and white. I like that they stand on it. They don't shy away from it. My phone was blowing up the last two or three days. All I was seeing was, yeah, we embrace it. We love that. And I'm like, OK, I got it. So I think he grew up on the East Coast. He knows what the deal is.

34:31This is just kind of the way it works. I loved every second of it. And clearly, I mean, it got the most out of him. I thought he played pretty damn well. Yeah. Really, the Rams in general played pretty well. I thought the elements affected them quite a bit. And the other guy that played really well was Saquon. Let's talk Saquon then. Finished with 26 carries, 205 in a touchdown. Broke off. TD runs a 62 and 78. God damn. him yeah uh the guy's just absolutely taking over every fucking game he's in he seems to be unstoppable and a force that uh you just gotta weather and you can't you can't fucking stop this thing let's let's see both of these clips though i want to see both of these to the house i mean speed kills especially in the fucking snow looks like this is the 62 yard of this is the first one very similar to the to the in season touchdown that he had against him interesting is that you go back to the start of this both of these plays i believe are inside zones that hit front side Typically, that play has a tendency to roll behind it.

35:29Yeah. Good job by Cam. God, that was a great block. Technically, it hit in the A-gap, so it hit where you think it would. Yeah, but I mean, normally it rolls behind the center. Yeah, it stays on that hash. Actually, that might not have been it. Just gets out to the alley. That was a strong side inside zone. Yeah, great kick-out block by my guy Dallas Goddard. Was that even inside zone? Go back to this. Let me see. This guy, who gives a shit? It's 100 % inside zone. Right? Yes. Outside zone, the running back takes three steps past the midline. Come on, Jason, you know this. God damn it, I'm doing this too damn long.

36:03The second clip, though, came at one of the most crucial points in the fucking game. Fourth quarter, five minutes to go. Now this is the inside zone. This is the inside split zone. The tight ends whacking back. Landon Dickerson does a phenomenal job. They're going out to this overhang player. he bangs the guy that he thinks he's going to end up blocking out on top of the tackle as that outside backer folds back in and then tracks him on the front side of this and then cam jergens has a huge block as well yeah i was about to say what what screws that kind of stuff up is i mean very similar just hand the ball off and let him just find the crease he just has a knack for finding his way on these plays he really does what i like about this though is that jordan him a lot it kind of hangs in there he doesn't i know too much depth he could have very easily got thinned out right there and now two guys are blocking one we would uh stout would call that asparagus when all of a sudden the outside guy kind of folds in behind like it's not like a design game he just kind of like flows naturally in behind the other d tackle why are we calling it asparagus i don't know because he didn't know what to call it i think is literally why he called it asparagus.

37:14I don't know what to call this. Call it asparagus. So then he just called it asparagus.

37:20It can make sense. It's asparagus because that's what we call it. But Landon does such a great job of knocking that out, tracking his guy, blocking. I mean, he blocked him near three people in that play. And then Cam Juergens has the hard job held up with the nose and he just does a fantastic job and this thing goes for a big one. This was kind of the game ceiling run. Not kind of. It was. Well, you say it was the game-sealing run, but the Rams definitely had a chance. Yeah, they had an opportunity. They did. They definitely had a chance. You're right. I shouldn't say that. It wasn't the game-sealing.

37:52They had an opportunity at the end. Huge momentum booster, though. Huge run. Saquon, obviously, another unbelievable game against the Rams. 200-plus yards, man. This guy's running for 200-plus in the playoffs. Holy shit. Do we know that's the guy we need to stop? are we are we are we locked into our ids yeah are we playing our gaps easier said than done obviously with that type of offensive line tight ends the way the the wide receivers are in there in the run game how they are you how the eagles spread everybody out with the rpos and then on top of that the way saquon can just set up fucking blocks and absolutely knife the defense and hit the holes and speed confidence bulldozer break arm tackles i mean he's got he's he's been doing it all and he's playing confident man i think there's such an underrated part of his game is setting blocks and being able to his vision i'm telling you i don't we didn't we never got a chance to witness it with the giants because the line just wasn't that capable to be honest with you well yeah they were dealing with injuries it felt like every single fucking year I guess, but I'm just letting him behind this offensive line and watching him able to manipulate blocks, hit plays frontside that I didn't think nobody I've seen do that.

39:09There was a same side run I was bringing up all the time where he gets in, then he gets back out. He's just got an insane feel for the game. You want to be good at running back? Figure out how the linemen are taught to block this play. Don't just go out there and just be like, give me the ball and I'm going to just run through the A gap or the B gap. figure out how guys are being blocked and how and how the scheme is is like supposed to be when i also like i've never talked to this with him but i feel like the best backs i've played with similar to the way you play tight end like you have like your first read and your second read when you're running a play but i feel like you do that kind of when you're practicing when you're in the game i feel like a lot of it is just like natural feel for how the game's being played and what is happening in front of you you're not so narrowed in there's so many guys i play i run outside zone with where like they run to the first read it's like brother there's a cutback lane like two steps ago why didn't you just hit that shit you know what i mean and it feels like he's just got that he's got that ability to see it and i wonder if he's just like doing that all on instinct and natural ability in the game as opposed to like i don't know does that make sense No, 100%.

40:23Yeah. You got to have a feel for the game, understand the structure and the scheme, but you still have to have a feel for the game and be able to go out there and just play ball, man. Yeah. And that's what he's doing right now, man. He's playing the best ball of anybody right now at the running back position. As an O-line, what is it like when you know you're blocking for a guy who can break it at any time? I don't know that I – I mean, the last one I probably had. Have you ever not had one? Yeah, I mean, I play with some really good backs. Ryan Matthews was an underrated back. Obviously, the Sean McCoy was the best one I played with.

40:55Fresno State. Darren Sproles. Like, I play with some big play ability guys. And to me, I don't think you really ever are blocking thinking about that big play. Now, it might be different because the Saquon's had so many of them this year. But I was always just like, hey, just block it to the whistle. And then you just knew when you had a big play like that, it was such a momentum shift. It is a huge, huge, just great feeling for the entire unit. And then you just get to go walk off to the sideline, and you're like, yeah, that's fun. Let's go do that again. I'll do that as many times as I want.

41:30I don't got to grind out a 15-play drive. Yeah, let's just have those big ones. That's fun. Shady McCoy tweeted out, my boy going for 200 yards again. Yeah, baby. As he added Saquon. I mean, he just knew. He knew what kind of day it was going to be and that Saquon is just in the zone right now. Well, and you know this, Trav, but the snow is to the benefit, in my opinion at least, to the running game. Because the defensive line is the ones that have to make a play. They're the ones that have to go out of their way to beat an offensive player. We get to sit on double teams. We get to just plod forward.

42:07The defensive guys have to be the ones that cut and make a play. where Saquon, if he just hits something 100 miles an hour, a guy to try and go regain his footing, get over there, tackle. I always feel like whenever it's raining or snow, the run game is going to be more impactful in the outcome of the game. I think if it's a snow game, I'm going to have a big game. As a pass catcher? Yeah. So maybe, oh, why do you think that? Well, one, because Pat Mahomes can sling that ball to anything. it doesn't matter if it's rain sleet or snow uh but also i'm heavier than the dbs which means my feet are going into the ground more which means it's not so much ice for me as and on top of that i grew up playing hockey i know how to even run on ice yeah so i feel like i have the upper hand so you just have a more acclimatized i can move i yeah just a more acclimatized game yeah snow neutralizes speed to a certain extent.

43:07Oh, yeah, baby. That's all. I need everybody to just come on, slow down just a little bit for me, baby. Yeah, come on down to this. Remember we used to play UConn and the UConn used to grow their grass out longer just to slow the game down and make you play their freaking power football? Bears do it. Green Bay does it. Yeah. Smart. Smart. If you don't have fast guys. That's right. If you have fast guys, make that attract me. All right, anyway, shout out to Saquon and LaShawn McCoy for being the best snow running backs I've ever seen. Well, it wasn't just the offense that was firing, man. Jalen Carter, arguably the best game of his career, maybe.

43:44Five tackles, three QB hits, two sacks, PBU, forced fumble. I mean, what else? That's a stat stuffer right there. He hit just about every defense outside of an interception in a fumble recovery. He hit just about every defensive statistic you could possibly hit. It was insane. I mean, he made all of these huge plays and really important parts of it. The forced fumble, the sack, obviously, on the third and two right before the last play of the game for the Rams. Yeah. I mean, he had so many huge plays. Yeah, I don't know which one you would kind of narrow it down to, but I think nobody impacted the game more probably on either team than Jalen Carter.

44:24Straight up. Outside of maybe Saquon. No, I'm with you. um the sack on third and two at the end of the game it's like me sitting in the middle of the fucking field wide open you got to block the biggest guy on the fucking field guys um and you would rather have two on them than than none so he kept doing this like he kept slanting down inside how was the game plan with the game on the on the line not to double jalen carter i don't know how that's not the game plan yeah dude i get it man football is a hard game man i'm happy about it but it's a hard game it's not that hard i mean they made it harder for themselves secure that d tackle first especially when he's freaking jalen carter i just that blew my mind it's a weird sense that a lot of great defensive linemen have they feel this like leverage point where you're you're you're giving them too much pressure yeah the moment you get too much pressure and you get just a little bit off balance yep yeah fucking swimming yeah they're fucking ripping they're spinning they're using the momentum and the strength you have against you yeah the great ones just have an ability to like put somebody in a mental blizzard uh all day by uh by playing with the speed to power the the hands and uh and the juke moves man so the biggest thing i'm trying to do against them is first of all double team them i'm doing everything i can whoever is blocking to at least put a hand where's the mic at least put a hand three technique is the mic today even if you got to block this guy over here drag do not just go straight out there we ain't fucking doing that today all right and if i got to go over here i'm gonna drag for you that's how we're gonna do this we're not gonna give this guy space a drag for the non-football heads is what if i'm going away from him i'm not just gonna go away and do my assignment i'm gonna stick my hand out to limit the amount of space that that guy has to work with there it is you're gonna limit the space nice and the tackle can do that the center can do that or the guard can do that depending on what technique he's in but i'm limiting space i'm i'm applying i'm trying to get him before he gets going and i'm getting ready if i when i quick set him for that quick hump move that's what i'm trying to think about in the back of my head and then after that he's going to beat me nine times out of ten if i'm not doubling anyway so i was about to say just fucking oh yeah that's the that's the call let's move on to the rest of the game shout out to the eagles and good luck next week against the commanders and uh speaking of the commanders rest of the games commanders 45 lines 31 no one in the world thought that the commanders were going to come out on top of this one i mean i'll be honest i think scott van pelt svp he's kind of a commander's homer because he's from the area washington guy yeah he's that i have not i am i have not thought the commanders were ready for this all season i feel like i always felt like they were a year away even with the rookie quarterback playing great it just felt like they don't have as many talented guys as you would want and they continually do it they just have continued to play better i think dan quinn and this is not like a fucking groundbreaking take what dan quinn has done up there with that defense has been nothing short of remarkable i think he is having those guys play so great right now yeah it was a huge get getting bobby wagner this offseason i really feel like that's accelerated the vision of a lot of things happening out there on defense.

47:46That's the guy. That's the guy that's making it happen. So the Eagles played the Commanders last time in the first game, and they had almost 100 yards rushing. Not the first game, the last time they played, in the second game. The Eagles almost had 100 yards rushing. Maybe they did have 100 yards rushing in the first half. And when they ran this counter play and it was there, they had a huge hit on it. Then all of a sudden you saw them adjust to it. Bobby is screaming over it. The tight end couldn't block him. He had no chance on the wide block, the double-team block, to collect Bobby Wagner. He kept beating him.

48:16Deron Payne started looping outside a lane and making the play. Yeah. They adjust so well to what you're doing on the day. They listen to calls really well. I felt like they did that well in Dallas when Dan Quinn was down there. Everything he does, they're not overly complicated on defense, but he gives those guys freedom to make plays. He coaches them well. They play. If you have any type of tendency that's going to give the play away, run pass, what run it is, formational tells, anything. They are going to sniff it out. And they play so disciplined across the board. That being said, I mean, you know, their offense, I mean, they were the reason they beat the Lions.

48:59They just, they weren't stopped. They punted one time. They went for it on fourth down a bunch. Which they got a bunch of fucking, you know, veteran proven guys on that side of the ball. Zach Ertz, you know, the offensive line. veteran offensive line two Super Bowl champs over there Allegretti Wiley and Andrew Wiley baby yeah um on top of that they got guys like Eckler is a very savvy vet and uh I think they got a lot of guys that that that have that confidence of I've been doing this a very long time I know how to win I know how to have success and I know how to be accountable and then you mix that in with a young quarterback that's very confident does the work understand understands a great scheme under Kingsbury.

49:42I mean, it makes sense. And he's got wide receivers all over the place making fucking big-time fucking plays. Yep. I mean, obviously, McLaurin's the biggest one, but they still got Zach Ertz out there. Ertz is making fucking big plays. Big third down, big in the red zone. They're a well-balanced offense. They run the ball really well. We were talking about Eckler. He's a great third down back. He does some good runs, too. But Brian Robinson gets north and south very well. Jaden Daniels with the reads and then all of a sudden if you want to stop that read stuff you got to sneak somebody down in the box to take it away and then they throw it over your head they just they are very conducive offensively conducive nice is that the word I'm looking for sure they're very I like the way you sold me yeah they're very complimentary offensively and I think Kingsbury is doing a phenomenal job right now somebody's in there the thorth no seriously the uh they're they're playing they're hitting on all cylinders and i'm not gonna the lions were fucking hitting on all cylinders too man uh that was probably the funnest of uh of the three games the other two games that i watched or three games that i watched for sure that one was just non-stop action it ripped my fucking heart out seeing coach campbell go down and um and that line scene was super fun to watch man but uh the commanders uh they earned that one, man.

51:07And what's particularly rough about the Lions losing this one is they're losing Ben Johnson. He's going to Chicago. It's already been stated. Shout out to Chicago. Way to get a hell of a coach. I see. I think Aaron Glenn has said that he might leave. So this was like the last year of this group, including the coaches, to kind of get it done. And they just got so decimated by injuries. Even as an NFC fan, I think everybody was kind of like, man, it would be kind of cool to see the Lions. He'll win the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, no. I didn't think it was that cool. I think everybody kind of feels for, you know, what they went through as a team.

51:45And I don't know, man. It just sucks. Losing does suck.

51:52You think the Bears offensive linemen are like, dude, fuck yeah. We get fucking Ben Johnson? Dude, I'm about to start scoring some touchdowns. They got some athletic tackles now. I was about to say, some hooking laterals to their fucking tackles? Their right tackle, I remember when he was coming, I'm trying to remember his name. Oh, my gosh. But he can run now. He's got some – he's a pretty athletic dude. God damn it. What's his name? D, something with a D. D's. Nuts. Don't know right, right. Yeah, don't know right. Don't know right, right. Yeah, speaking of Ben Johnson going to Chicago, there are fans out there, especially Lions fans, that are upset about them interviewing for other jobs.

52:33That's right. um why i i think there's a perception from fans that you can't prepare your team as much as possible and interview for these coaching positions erroneous erroneous on all accounts we dealt with something similar in philly when we lost to you guys with jonathan gannon who had went into arizona i think there was more involved with the gannon thing but i always felt like it was a reach i lost doug peterson i lost matt naggy i lost i was about to say all the best coaches eric b enemy mike kafka four out of basically every offensive coordinator that i've ever had has gone somewhere else and we've still had success where you can't you you have to give those guys the opportunity to be to better on their careers to strive for for like a new position that's the that's the honor of being one of the best in the league is that everybody gets an opportunity to take that next that next step if they get it i don't think it's the reason why the lions lost their offense put up 31 fucking points had 500 plus yards of offense like what like that wasn't it and by any means ben johnson put together a great fucking game plan bills 27 ravens 25 the uh the last of the four playoff games did it live up to the hype of course it did yep two of the best uh quarterbacks in the league duking it out um for four quarters in the snow man doesn't get more magical than that no it doesn't it was an awesome game obviously came down to that last drive everybody's talking about the mark andrews drop because obviously that was a two-point play that would have tied it up fuck man i will say this even before the drop i was thinking in my head like they scored way too fast there was over a minute 30 left you can't control on how fast you score though yes you can you gotta know you You got to just fucking score, man.

54:24When you can get a touchdown, when you need a touchdown. I would say it's different when you need a touchdown. You need a touchdown, you got to score. You don't just need a touchdown. You need a touchdown and a two-point to tie it. All I'm saying is Mark Andrews catches that pass. What happens? You give yourself a chance for your defense to get a big stop. No, I'm just saying what do you think would have happened? I'm not saying they did the wrong thing. I'm not saying that. I'm not going to play would have, could have, should have. I will. I think the Bills would have gone down there and kicked the field goal anyway.

54:48I'm just trying to say Mark Andrews catching that pass wouldn't have mattered. I would have loved to see what the Bills could have done with it tied up like that. You know, it's good fucking football. There's no question. Everybody wants to. Yeah. I like to see everybody like playing and showing their best. Yes. Thriving. One of my favorite playoff games I've ever witnessed was you guys playing Josh Allen and the Bills in the infamous comeback game with the 16 seconds or whatever the hell was on the clock because it felt like everybody was playing so well. Yeah. Like Josh was playing great. Pat was playing great.

55:17That's fun football to watch. You don't ever want to watch something like that end up being the deciding factor in the game, in my opinion. It's just not as fun to watch. I'm with you. Either way, though, outstanding season for the Ravens, and Bills are going to be coming to Arrowhead next week. A lot's going to be said about how the Ravens, quote-unquote, lost that game, but the Bills fucking showed up. For sure. The Bills played their tails off 27 points against that Ravens defense. It's fucking damn good. The Bills, yeah. The Bills were fantastic as they've been all year, especially towards the end of the year.

55:54They freaking have come on really strong. It's been inspiring watching the way this team has come together. You know, I think Josh Allen after the game, you know, you could tell, man, they feel like they've been doubted heavily this year. And they were. I mean, there was a lot of players on the offense that people had not heard of that have showed up and have risen to the occasion. Yeah. They play very complimentary football with the run game with James Cook and a lot of the misdirections. The backs are really active in the passing game. The defense showed up big. I mean, Derrick Henry didn't have a bad day, but he didn't have the big day that he did the first time around when they played these guys.

56:31And credit to those guys and Sean McDermott for figuring out a way to slow that rushing attack down a little bit. Overall, this was an awesome game between two of the best teams in the NFL. And kudos to the Bills for sure. Yeah. and i'm excited man we're gonna get a great one this weekend it's gonna be i you know me i love going up against the best man the bills are sure just as good as anybody in the fucking league right now so yes they are i'm excited for it to be championship sunday at arrowhead baby let's go well let's go ahead and talk about some uh some previews for sunday the nfc championship commanders at eagles uh jason getting like keys to the game or just like right off the bat do you what is Have you ever played a team three times?

57:13Yes, I played the New York Giants three times the year that we went to the Super Bowl against you guys. What is that like? I've never played a team more than twice. It feels weird, especially when they've been three meaningful games. Like the one game we had against the Giants was kind of like we were resting guys a little bit into the playoffs. Whenever you play a team twice, you know how this works. The first game plays and you see what you did well, what they did well. You go into the next game prepared to either keep doing what you did well or like, hey, be ready for this. If they do this again, this is how we're going to react.

57:45And now you're doing that for a third time. And it's like, man, they know exactly what we're going to do and what our counter is. So it's always interesting to see how teams respond to a third game against each other. Yeah. I think the Philadelphia Eagles, defensively, the key to the game, you got to stop the rushing attack. This team, I know Jaden Daniels is a great quarterback, and he's known to push the ball down the field, but I really think a lot of it is set up with the ground game. Brian Robinson, they get into a lot of manageable third and fourth down situations, and if it's manageable at all, fourth down is going to be a go-forward situation.

58:21Try and keep them out of that as much as possible. Easier said than done. They're as good as, like we've said before, complimentary team. They do a lot of things well. They don't make mistakes. This is not a team you can go into turning the ball over and making mistakes. They will capitalize on it. They will make you pay. Those are the big ones for me. Obviously, offensively, I think that we can run the ball as long as we're executing everything properly. If you go back to that last game against Washington, and credit to Washington now, they adjusted well in the second half, and they really started shutting down our runs for the day.

58:59but if the Eagles take care of business and everybody does their job, I think that they should be able to have a successful day on the ground, but this is a really good team. Both of these teams are great. Dan Quinn coaches these guys so well. They have Jonathan Allen back this time around. He's a great player. Bobby Wagner is as good of a defensive leader as you're going to find in this league. So I'm looking forward to watching it. Freaking crazy that an NFC East divisional game is going to decide the NFC champions. It's fucking nuts. I can only imagine AFC West, like, I can't even fathom it, man, trying to fucking go toe-to-toe with a team that knows everything about you, man.

59:39A lot of familiarity here, and that makes a difference. I brought that up earlier. If there's one thing I think Dan does a great job of, those guys are well-coached. They know what they're looking for formationally. They know what their keys are. I've always felt like no matter where he's been at, he schemes things and lets those guys operate in the scheme and teaches them well on how to react to stuff you see it in the way that they adjusted last game and that's a battle that's going to happen in this game nice well afc championship bills at cheese trav what's the keys to the game um i'm i'm not going to tell you those that's fair uh yeah i'll uh i'll i'll leave that to Can I say mine?

1:00:24I'll say mine. Well, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead and give me the keys to the game, Jason. Yeah, I got you. Well, I'm giving the fans. I'm not giving you the keys to the game. These are what I think 92 percenters. Okay. Keys to the game. I don't know. Good call. Well, we do know this. We got a few extra weapons on offense. I think we're a little bit healthier on the defensive side. So it doesn't mean that, you know, we'll have the upper hand just because of that. You know, it's obviously these two great coach teams, two superstars, a quarterback and and playmakers all over the board. The biggest thing for me is is just going out there and playing my fucking tail off of these guys next to me, man.

1:01:14We're excited for that challenge to go up against these bills. We know they match up very, very good with us. is a it's a very familiar uh you know matchup we've seen these guys a lot we've seen them a lot in the playoffs and in the regular season and um and you know that being said uh it's gonna be it's gonna be a dog fight no doubt about it i think obviously james cook is such a huge integral part of that bill's offense you gotta try and slow him down but easier said than done and josh is such a great job it's there's something really hard about stopping a passing attack that doesn't just zero in on specific playmakers.

1:01:52I mean, he spreads the ball around as good as anybody else. Yeah. And then they're well coached on defense. Come on now, Sean McDermott. Let's go. Sean McDermott, freaking Spagnola, Andy Reid, Joe Brady. Gosh, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. This is going to be a fun game. Can't wait. Fire me up, baby. Best on the best. That's what I love. All right. Before we get going with the rest of the show, It's time for Travis to duck out of here for a second because he can't be here for this next segment. It's too degenerate for him. Yeah, that's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah. Joining me now is intern Brandon.

1:02:33Hey. Hey. We've only got two games this weekend. It's almost done. Oh, yeah. All right. Jason, I'm going to build us a single game parlay. Okay. Hit me. We're going to build a little single game parlay here, looking at just the Eagles and Commanders. Got it. I got six picks. Let's whittle it down to three. What do you like better? Saquon Barkley, over 100 rushing yards, or Jaden Daniels, two passing touchdowns? I'm picking this or you're doing this. You're the expert. You inform me. I'm torn. I don't know. Saquon over 100. Okay. All right. Jaden Daniels is out of here. All right. Do we like Jalen Carter over one sack or Jaden Daniels over one interception?

1:03:16I have a favorite, but I want to hear the expert. I mean, with the way Jalen Carter played last game, I'm going to go with Jalen Carter. All right, last pairing here. Saquon Barkley, anytime TD scorer, or Jalen Hurts, anytime TD scorer? Is he going to house one, or are we tush pushing? I'll go with Jalen Hurts, anytime TD scorer. There we go. That leaves us with Saquon over 100 yards, Jalen Carter over one sack, and Jalen Hurts, anytime TD scorer. That is our single-game parlay. That means your odds on that single-game parlay are plus 360. $10 pays you$46. Jason, take us home. Now that everyone knows about some of the awesome bets that are available on DraftKings, you're ready for the big games.

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1:05:13Hobby horsing? Oh my gosh. I mean, it's, you know, there's like LARPing and, you know, this thing right here, whatever this is. I mean, there's some form involved. I'll go. I'll go see what it's about. hey, if Wyatt can jump over a hurdle like that with a wooden horse between her legs, that's pretty impressive. Watch this. Look at this hurdle. Yeah. I just think this is the type of stuff you open yourself to when you allow judges to be a part of sports. I just don't think judging. Sports are there's a goal scored and somebody has more points than the other team at the end of the day. I don't want to hear somebody's opinion on what my score should have been.

1:05:50I want to know, did I score? Is there a goal in the net? That's a point. I don't need to hear you. this person in the race that i throw this further than them yeah i don't need you to tell me it was my fucking high knee form correct or not get the fuck out of here that's my only problem with this is that it's a judge sport now highest jump listen that's a sport that's a sport the jumping whoever could jump over the highest obstacle with a goddamn wooden horse in between the leg that i can get on that with being a sport because it's very there's no subjectiveness to it's like hey if you jumped over the higher fucking rung, you fucking win.

1:06:26There was a second part to this question. Also, who would win a hobby horsing competition between Travis, Jason, Jets Jake, and intern Brandon? It sounds like Jason would. I don't think I would. I definitely ain't winning the jumping contest. I'm definitely not doing it. Well, then you're definitely not winning. So I guess I think it's really between me, Jets Jake, and intern Brandon. Would you partake in this? Yeah. Sure. Intern Brandon, in case you can't hear. Oh, can you not hear me i don't know i can hear you i don't know if they can i don't know how this works sometimes i'm recorded we figured out that mechanism like two weeks ago it's been pretty solid there we go we're advancing the podcast at all times just shake would you try this i'm experienced my sister did this and it's the dumbest fucking thing ever she's just run around our backyard jumping over horse things julia i love you sorry for okay blowing your spot up on a national podcast have you ever told your sister all the time you used to go to him you used to have to go to her competitions no she she didn't compete in these she just had them in our backyard and we just run over the jumps oh well if it's a kid that's in the backyard being a kid that's one thing she was in high school oh my god julia i love you that's so good everybody's got their hobby from ashley gunno if travis is el trevidor when he has the mustache what is his name when he has the playoff beard oh the playoff beard i go a list uh a little less uh spanish and i go more like nordic celtic yeah celtic yeah i was thinking more viking what did i say celtic i mean listen and the Irish people have beards too.

1:08:19I feel like yours, I think it might be red beard. It's not that red. Because in the playoff mode especially, there's like an anger that you play with. It's not that red. It's a little red. It's got some tinge to it. No, you're trying to give me more. I'm not trying to get you. I'm trying to give you. I think it's like brown. I think red beard is a great. It's not black beard. No. It's definitely not black beard. I don't think it's brown beard. I think it's red beard. It's definitely brown beard. It's red beard. It's not red beard. If somebody saw that beard and they were like, give it a color, they would say red beard.

1:08:51No, they would not. Brandon, come in here. What would you call that beard? Not like the actual color, but if you were going to nickname that beard. Let me get in. Travis, get a little closer. Come on. You get what you get. Let the light hit it too. There's red in there. There's red in there. There's red in there? Okay. I'm not shitting on you. I think it's awesome. Red beard is a great name. Red beard is a good one. Red beard is more pirate. Red beard's more pirate. That's a pirate name. He's mad. Yeah, which is cool. I'm not mad at all. There's nothing wrong with someone having a red beard. I'm saying you're throwing me into a boat that I'm not in.

1:09:28Like there's people out here with actual red beards. Well, yeah, there's redder beards. I just think if you have any redness to your beard, you can be called red beard. Just like I can be called white beard. Gray beard. Not yet. No. But red beard, I think, is a little bit more lenient. no

1:09:50no this is why they're all dumb questions what is the what's a good I'm just thinking of good beard nicknames what's a good Nordic freaking you can't look it up Nordic for Travis this is what I'm saying you can't look it up just look at it feel the energy how do you say Travis in Norse you did this Brandon I know It might just be Travis. I fucked up. I can't leave open-ended questions in the show anymore. Viking names. What? What about Ragnar? Dude, Ragnar is great. Did I get it? Did I nail it? Did I nail it? Similar to Travis. It's nowhere near Travis. Translate the Travis. God damn it, Jason.

1:10:41Celtic. God damn it. jason's stuck he's in a wormhole he doesn't get out of these things you did this i know every week i do this and i i reflect upon this i'm like never do that again thomas slav the first king of croatia travis slav travis slav travis slav i mean we're slavic oh fuck you got there so i was Thank you. Travis Slav. Travis Slav. Travis Slav. When you say it like that, it actually is. Travis Slav. There it is. You have to say it more Russian. Why Russian? Say it more Arnold. Travis Slav. There it is. I am Travis Slav. Travis Slav. That's good. That's real good. That's funny as fuck.

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1:12:32Some of my favorite things to do after a game, after a big play is go listen to the different calls from around the world of the play.

1:12:46Is this Japan?

1:13:00Dude, did we just come up with a bit? We have to describe the play. We have to guess the play based on a foreign nation's calling of the play. You want some Wondry Plus? Dude. We got you.